Episode 73: Interview with Sean Hibbeler

Welcome back, fact hunters and truth seekers from around the world. It's time for another edition of the Flat Earth Files, and today we have a very special guest, one of them, you know, the biggest names in the truth community as far as documentary goes. He's made such films such as Level the Next Level, Level with Me, Fluvid nineteen and his twenty twenty documentary Psychological Operation, and he's also done One on nine to eleven. Check out

all of his work at Hibbler Productions dot com. Don't worry about trying to write it down or getting his name right. The link will be in the show description so you can simply click and play. As they say, ladies and gentlemen, please help me. Welcome from California, Sean Hibler. Sean, how are you doing tonight? Good? Good? Thank you so much for having me on, brother, I appreciate it. And high to your

audience. It's great to have you. You've been a large part of the truth community, especially with Flat Earth, which is what our audience calls the Granddaddy of all conspiracies. We all think we're awake when we're hip to JFK and Jim Morrison and the Gulf of Tonkin and these things. And then when you realize that we've been lied to about the globe, it changes your entire

spective on everything. You realize that this place was created specially for us, and we're not here by accident, and all the propaganda that the Rockefeller education system has taught us, it's complete garbage. So you know, let me give you a few minutes to introduce yourself and kind of your journey to the truth. Sure. Yeah, I'm Sean Hibler from Hill Productions. Back in the day when I was in Chicago, born a race thirty years, first

thirty years of my life, I was there. So it's been a long time as a thoroughbred Chicago guy, and it was into hip hop music as most of my peers were, and got it, got into hip hop production, started to make music just just for friends and acquaintances in the area. I was always into production and just creating something from my brain to know that,

hey, that's mine. I made that, and I saw I did the music for a long time, and I didn't really see any future in it, but I enjoyed it, and I started to merge my childhood hobbies into the music production and what I mean by that is, as a child, I would have the two VCRs where I could dub stuff right with the blank VHS tapes, and then i'd have I'd use my mother's, my late mother's tape decks, so she had a duel cassette tape decks with the FM

radio. So what I would do all the time is I would record songs I wanted to use for a sports video. This is how my whole sports thing began was as a little kid, as I would record against Chicago. So pretty obvious who I would record all the time. So I'd record Michael Jordan all the time growing up, his highlights, his replays, you know, a lot and a lot of a lot of the channels back then would show their own kind of commercialized type of promo video of him, even just

as the game started. They'd have some crazy dreamy highlight reel of him, and I would record that on the VHS tape and then I would dub it onto the blank one bit by bit. You know, this is what back in the day editing used to be from me, and I didn't even know that I can do it all digitally now. So I would do that as a child all the time. And then I would record the songs on the tapes. A certain radio song I'd here, I, Oh, this is

the one I want to make for the Jordan video. And then I have the whole family come in, friends, whoever I could to watch it, and I'd have to It'd have to be perfect. I'd have to sync it up exactly the same time it hit play at the same time, so the VS, the VCR tape, the VHS tape would play on the on the old Telly and then it'd be playing out of the speakers and it'd be SYNCD up, so it'd be Jordan Duncan Dunk getting right on the beat, boom boom boom. So I and I, you know, and I would always

impress them, and I didn't know I could turn that into anything. I was just a kid. And eventually, once I started doing music production, I started merging that into like seeing music videos and a lot of them sucked, and I'm like, man, I feel like if I had a cam quarter so I could do better than that. So I didn't. Before I even got into new videos, the sports grab me, I was already into

sports. I was a ab a Chicago cub fan unfortunately, but I saw that was my last year it's a sports aholic was twenty sixteen when the Cubs got their ring. But my point is that I knew there was a huge market in the sports. So I was like, you know what, this is something I could do with my career. Started worker for little companies,

not ESPN or not in real small companies. Third party you know, want to be ESPN's I call them and they would pay me to do sports reels and hypes and you know Dallas Cowboys, you know new season hype video, I gotta make it. I produced it, I'd put the music in, I give it to them. My name, it's not in anymore, it's theirs now. And that's how I got paid. And all of a sudden, my mom passes away in the middle of all of this, and I'm like, you know, I'm trying to get the ESPN level. That was

not really the goal. It was just kind of obvious for me. I was like, I see their highlight stuff and I'm like, really, you know, I could ship that out in my sleep. So I knew where I was going to take my expertise and what I felt like I could do for a living to where I want to go and it got it got interrupted by my mom passing from cancer. So I researched. I was heavy to

research in the cancer at that point. And back in those days twenty fourteen when YouTube was awesome, you can have related videos would pop up based on what you're searching, remember those days. That's right, an actual algorithm and a real algorithm based off of you. So I'm looking up cancer stuff. I know, the doctors told me it was a lot of dairy. She was basically a calf, a living, walking, living calf, and she's not supposed to be as human, so it fucked her up. And I'm

like, what do you mean? Like dairy? Who cares? What is that? We all eat that? Right? So I you know, I researched dairy stuff, and I just didn't know how crazy it was that humans, humans, we consume this. I mean, it's in a fucking plane bag of chips, for god's sakes, what do they add milk to it? Like? It was kind of weird. So but at my points as

a research in that the related video kept coming up. Eric to Bay two and proves to arthst not a spinning globe, and I think it's and then now I kind of realized as lately, why the connection there, Why that kept coming up? And that's because he did a vegan video. He did a video about veganism and eating plants and being connected to nature. Older Eric to Bay video. I'm probably and probably I probably watched that during my cancer

research. And again, just from watching that one, it kept popping me his other one. Finally I would put it off for while. They finally I'm like, you know, I gotta see it. I just gotta see who this is. It was like a calling. It changed my life because my whole path completely changed just by clicking play. And it wasn't that that video woke me up. God, no, that would be ridiculous. I'm not gullible. If one video can wake you up, you got issues.

You gotta do some research there, buddy. So I took what he said not with a grain assault. I'm like, you know, yeah, this guy's making sense. I wasn't like bruh, but still in my mind, Greg, it was like, I don't know, but I'm like, you know what, this is the easy thing for me to do. Fuck all this shit, he said, let me just go to NASA dot gov real quick. Actually, I went to dot com at first, and then it threw me back to dot gov and I'm like, oh, dot gov yep.

I'm like, oh, that's a government entity. I'm like, that's not a good start for them, but I'll give I'm like, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. Like before I even continue to go on their website, who started them, where they form from, where they come from? Have they been around forever? I went to Chicago Public school. I don't know shit in terms of that. They don't teach us anything.

So I'm like, I don't know when this ship began. So then I look and it's you know, Nazi traders or World War two, and I'm like, wait a minute. They started NASA. I'm like, okay, this is not going off. If we're in the court of law. They're not winning yet. But I'm like, wait, I'm gonna give them benefit of the doubt because this is a universal fact right where we're a spinning ball. So I'm like, I mean, okay, they had the benefit of

the doubt in the beginning stages. So finally I went to NASA, dot Com, then dot gov and then I'm like, okay, let me look around. Let me look for something in terms of I'm more of like, what's legal here? What can we legally from a legal standpoint? What am I looking at? What am I? What am I? What am I seeing on this website? And I saw nothing legal, meaning I saw nothing that said this is a photographer, this is a photograph taken by X Y or Z. I never saw any of that. They weren't lying to me.

But all this cartoon looking shit that was supposed to be sold as real would say image or composite, you know, impression or the artistry designed. Wait, wait, someone designed this. I thought this was a photo of Earth, or I thought this was a photograph of our planets, or I thought this was a photo of a nebula. Well it's all made on the computer. Oh okay, So I go okay. And this was that first night of research in NASA, and I was really lost, confused, and

I'm like, okay, I guess they don't take real photographs. That's not good for them. So I said, all right, let's look at some videos here, Let's do some videos. It's okay. So I'm clicking on videos. A lot of it was cartoons, obvious cartoons, and I'm like Okay, come on, we're some real stuff. We are some real stuff.

And then I started seeing a little bit of real stuff with like an astronaut doing like a selfie and like eighty percent of that video is just him like smiling and then looking down on like a shoulder pad and then him again, and then you see like a little earth behind him, like a little little glow, a little curve, you know. And then I'm like, wait a minute, I'm like, they could be anywhere. So then I started looking because I'm like, well, I've seen movies that look better than

this, so like I can't just fall Oh there it is. I see a glow of a curve in the background. I'm sold on everything heliocentric now no, So I'm like, wait a minute. I'm like, let me, let me, let me try to find And this took days of looking to find to realize I'm I'm going in the dead end. But I'm still It's been ten years so almost, so please find a video of an astronaut.

Ever, I don't care what year was doing a three sixty with their with their cameras, just a period just taking their camera, whether it's whatever they sell people on that what they're up there with recording stuff. I don't know. I still haven't heard about that yet, but whatever that is, and they could do it this way and they could do a selfie. Cool, all right, what about the fourth wall? That's the law. You

know, it's a fourth wall. If you don't if you're not in a studio filming, if you're not doing some layering, if you're not fucking with stuff on the computer. After this is film, then you can easily just do a three sixty whip it around. And that's another thing, just from a real essic standpoint. Greg I was like, I wasn't in that conspirator of mine looking for information on the globe. I was like, of course,

it's a globe. So but then I started to backtrack. Every day I'm like, wait, wait, wait, I still I'm like, it was like my fifth day in and I'm like, okay, fuck this, there's gotta be POV I'm looking in there. Maybe NASA sucks, I don't know, let me go to something else. There's someone else. I went to ESA, but they're owned by NASA. Everybody's under NASA in the umbrella.

So I'm like, well, NASA is the king. This is garbage, and I'm like, they they they have not sold me, and I'm I wanted them to sell me. They failed, And I went in with an open mind, more open than most because most are going in there like that's gotta be real, and they move on. It's like they're not really processing. Of course that's fake. What do you mean? Like, are you kidding me? Look at it? It's fake. So I looked at it from perspective of in the beginning stages, I'm like, wow, I

can't find footage what I really wanted. The last thing I was gonna end with with that is what I really wanted, was just pov right. You would think naturally there would be a crap aft or a rocket or whatever on the ground, filming inside, outside, fucking everything. It's twenty twenty three, and go straight up to space, not this whole fucking Disney arc thing just to go land, just to go dump him in the ocean. I'm talking about straight up in the air, okay, which is what they won't

display ever because they know what that they can't reach anywhere. But the point of trying to make is unedited, un just raw live footage. We all deserve his humanity, we deserve from the ground through space I'm talking about. I want to see space junk. I want to see these magical satellites, tin cans. I want to see a shooting stuff. I want to see something from a point of view that no human being has still yet to see. And it hasn't been done, and there's a read. There's two options

you have on why that has not been done. One is that, well, there doesn't there's really no need to do it, and it's a big texting. We'd have to ask for more money first. And if we did do that, what's that prove We already know space is real. We don't need to film it. So that's your option. Or the other option is they've been lying about it all this whole time, and they're gonna keep keep

pushing, pushing it and pushing it and pushing it. They're gonna keep pushing everything they possibly can, including their their You know, I think the first Jimmy Carter, maybe he is talking about going to Mars. Every president said we're going to Mars four more years. Yeah, give me four years. We're definitely going to Mars. Every president's told you that. You know why

it's not going we're not going. You have two options. One, well, we need more money from the people because it's a really expensive trip and it's really hard to go to and we just need more money. We're just waiting for more money, So that is your option. Or they just made all of it up and they're just they're just pushing it and pushing it along

until this war ends. Isn't it interesting that it's been Actually tomorrow will be the fifty four, fifty four year anniversary of Stanley Kubrick's uh, you know, straight to TV movie entitled The Moon Landing was released on July twentieth, nineteen sixty nine, And here we are fifty four years later and they're still bragging about we're going to go back to the Moon. You know, it's

the only technology and the history of the world that has gone backwards. Yeah, but they yeah, they have they lost no, well they lost it. Technolo's right. Don Pettitt said, we lost the technology. They lost it, They destroyed that. Yeah, yeah, they hired to build back. I gotten Okay. So in nineteen sixty nine, they're on the phone with the presidents from a landline to what do they lie about the Moon?

To distance? I don't all probably three hundred thousand miles whatever crazy distance they say the moon thirty nine, but sure, yea yeah, good cool story on that number. But two hundred and thirty nine thousand miles away that moon in the sky is the one you can see with your naked eye. It's that far away up man. We had great eyes apparently, so we could see that light. And it's hilarious though that they try to sell people on the fact that human beings have walked on the Moon. But come on,

use your brain, use logic. This is a crazy warl we living with crazy countries, crazy governments, crazy corporations. You're telling me there wouldn't be a nine ninety nine pizza Hut advertisement on the moon? Might not? All right, get the fuck out here, it would have been. There'd been thousands of things since the moon landing. Since then, nothing, how about nothing, how about absolutely nothing has happened to that moon since the day men

jumped around on harnesses in a studio. No one's ever brought it up again, No one wants And when you talk about going back, it's like, yeah, well, we've already been there, so I mean, like, we're not gonna waste your money, taxpayer to go there again, we'll waste your money on paying our animators one hundred grand a year, and we banked the other three hundred thirty eight billion that comes from you. So we only got to pay some animators, some magazine people, couple you know, propaganda

pieces, couple you know, couple internal folks in the industry. This isn't like a well how many millions of people are in on this thing? No, man, it's really really small. It's a very small, compartmentalized thing. It's a need to know basis. You can look at the Fox anchor, Fox News anchor, whoever, pick whoever. I don't even know their names anymore, But pick whoever. It's like sports. I just I don't even know their names anymore. Bro, I don't have time for it.

But pick an anchor. Do you think that that anchor knows what the owner of Fox is doing right now? Of course, the owner, what their plan is, what their goals are for tomorrow, what the strategy is for the future. No, they don't even know. And you think that the person reading the talent prompter's powerful, most of the public would agree they are. Those are powerful people. No, those are tools Those are tools, that's all they are. So if you think a tool has power, imagine

the person that that actually uses the tool by the electricity. Yeah, exactly that that guy is just a script reader. He is an actor on the world stage. And I want to backtrack just about sixty seconds too, when you were talking about the moon landing and while again this is an exact proof of flat earth and debunks heliocentrism, but you go back to you know, you're talking about Michael Jordan and uh, those folks who were live during the

eighties and then into the nineties. You turn the TV on, every other commercial had Michael Jordan on it. Um, he was in the movies that they got me, They got me with it. That's for absolutely. But then you you go to Nail Armstrong, all right, winning a six basketball champions pretty good accomplishment, right, what all the number? Really? Well in the I mean, it's cool, you know what I'm saying back, I thought that was the bomb. I thought that was cool. No,

no, over, I'm talking about from a realistic, overall standpoint. It's a cool thing. But not a big deal that no, really, not a not a bid. You get a champion every year man, I mean right, and it doesn't really. It's just a place where we can turn on the TV and kind of forget about our problems for ninety minutes. And I'm like you, I used to be a big sports junkie. I don't. I don't watch it anymore because I'm like you, I'm this mission.

I feel like this is a mission. But these guys came back from the Moon and being the first guy in the history of the Earth to step foot on the moon, to just come back and disappear from the face like I would be doing every commercial. I would be selling shoes, I would be selling tires, Michelin and your's astronaut George Hobbs standing, they're smiling. I would have everything, and they just disappeared. That the press conference when they

came back, it looked like they were at a funeral. It's just it blows my mind when you go back and look at those old videos from nineteen sixty nine. Well, you know what I think, what I think it really is is that they were just like us, shocked with the footage, how terrible it was. It's awful, and I don't think that they really they're like they probably looked at it like really, yeah, man, we're gonna put this in the whole world's gonna see this next week. They're like,

what the fuck, man, this is awful. Look at this, Look at that, Look at that, like they're gonna realize, No, this is good. We're gonna short We'll just shorten it. We're just gonna give them the clips. We're gonna give them some highlights. And then once I think, once they had the green light to talk to the president on a landline, oh man, I think again. I think just just naturally, they were getting nervous, you know, like, oh, for sure,

yeah, we're gonna get fucking the public's gonna fuck us up. But I'm sure that they had some sort of protection agreement with the government obviously, just like the Challenger Astronauts, anyone in any sort of PSI up like this a life mind changing PSI up to help their agenda, to really help. That's really sped it up. But people forget too though, that back in the day, a lot of people were just like we are now with this ship. They were like this some bullshit on TV that people were like this,

hilaria, you guys believe this shit. So the media was controlled that and now it's no different, none, none, now on the sun. They were controlled the narrative, then they also controlled they controlled the narrative through the educational systems, which is the most important because Board of Education nineteen twenty Rockefeller, here we go. So now now our public education, well,

technically our history is a lie. To begin with. We don't even know where we came from, who was here before us, what kind of civilizations just left our earth. We really don't know because we're just fed one side of a story from Rockefeller's funding, I mean, his educational system. That the Board of Education that he started was not of our best interests of humanity, not at all. It was to feed us a story of lies, deception, manipulation, manipulating the mind. And he even admitted he wanted a

nation of workers, thinkers. He did not want any thinkers living in this earth. And he claimed he wanted to rule the earth, or wants to rule the earth. Whatever. So Rockefeller came in in nineteen twenty, changed the school books, made sure that if you didn't pump, if you didn't pump his school books, then you're not gonna get funded and free lunch and whatever. They were going to start rolling out wasn't gonna cut it, so

you eventually would have closed. But the law school stayed open for a while a lot of schools, and they kept that Gleason's map in their library, the flat Earth map that everybody knew, the world map. It was standard world map. No one needed fake heliocentric cosmology to move on with their day. They didn't need any form of fake pseudoscience to feel like they knew where they lived. They just knew where they live. They knew they weren't moving.

There wasn't like it's kind of like I always say, like thought to a anyone. Really it could be you that was just born today with no information in your brain, or you could talk about a five year old doesn't. It's up to you in your head, however you want to ulize the story. But you take someone that has no information of anything, and you bring them outside. You show them the sun and the sky, the moon

and the sky, the stars in the sky. You show them the horizon and horizontal right, you show them, you show them earth, You show them his or her reality. And then give that person a week to just look around and just be amazed with everything. And then sit them down in a room and have a heliocentric pusher come in and have a sensible, regular person that knows we're not moving come in and explain what they think is going

on in life. In reality, there's just no way that that person is going to accept the heliocentric nonsense over their own senses, because what I'm doing is I'm redirecting people's senses back to normal because you're supposed to feel like, yes, we're not moving. That that's you should start there yourself as a human being, go wait, yeah, we're not moving. So someone needs to prove to me without a shadow of a doubt, and I mean just

complete concrete evidence that we are. And this is yet to be done. There's absolutely no science experiment that proves anything. Actually, any actual rotation experiment proves the opposite. The proves that were not that we weren't moving. So they disregard that in our education. They won't talk about science experiments proving the Earth is moving in our educational systems because there is none. We all know why there isn't. There aren't any. But people need to see the GISTs

of it all. Is that whether it's history or science or even our language. Our languages have been hijacked. Everything was brought into this education system for a reason to indoctrinate us, to keep us dumbed down, enslaved, thinking that the government. Remember how the government worked for us, and then we've always been told that theory, right, and and look how it's just it's all changed because they changed it and we allowed it. But now people like

us are saying, hey, we're not going to allow this anymore. And whether they do, they shut us up there, censor us, they cancel us, or worse, So it's a war. What are you gonna do. But the people that are realizing there's a war going on, especially because of COVID or back to nine to eleven, I mean whatever, as soon as you realize, hey, we're actually in a war, we're in a

live exercise right now, you got to pick a side. You can't keep preaching globe Earth and think that you're on the people's side, because the globe Earth is not the people. The globe Earth was invented. It was created to control your mind, to not only that, but to keep you contained. It keeps you that part of your brain, the natural part of your brain that's supposed to have, just like you have sexual thoughts, just like you have hunger thoughts. Everything in your brain is it's in there for a

reason. But the one thing, the one part of your brain that they pretty much restrict us to use at such a young age is exploration. They don't want you to. They don't want you to feel that you're supposed to as a human being, greg you're supposed to feel exploration, that that need to not only migrate, but explore and go find stuff and go find something new. Right. That's that's supposed to be every woman and every man,

woman and child supposed to have that in their heart and their mind. And I think children do at a young age until they're told, well, there's nothing left to explore. You live on a fucking ball and everything they teach you about above us, all those planets above you that you can live on, you'll never be able to get there unless you're a freemason and you answer the five Club of Astronauts, but you won't. Hopefully, hopefully your kid

doesn't get to that level. But my point is, even if you believe in that garbage that we can go somewhere above us, you're not gonna be able to go there, and I know globers that are like, yeah, you're right about that, We're never gonna be able to do that. Well, yeah, they set it up that way, and that's why the Challenger explosion was so huge, because they wanted to reinforce that you don't want to go up there. Don't act like you want to go up there again,

because look, every bell everybody died. Yeah, they put that TV in every single schoolroom across this country, and every single child between the age of you know, seven and eighteen witnessed that happened that day. And it was fear based mind control that happened that day. Oh yeah, big time. They they knew that they were losing. I don't know what you call it. I just call it for all times of purposes ratings. Yeah, interest.

But that's why the whole apollo was at the thirteen that, you know, the one they made the Tom Hanks movie about how they miraculously made it back. It was to draw interest back to the program. Well that was after, but my point was from the last fake moon landing, which I think that one was when they were golfing, and I think that really pissed off the people that were against it. It's kind of like a new plandemic

started tomorrow and they called it roronavirus or something like. All the truthers would just make fun of it and ignore it. So that's what was happening in the last moon landing when they're playing golf. Apparently all the truthers were like, Oh, that's this is this is ridiculous now, And it kind of set the tone though not saying that everybody believed the moonlands were fake. A lot of people believe them, but it's still set the overall tone in the

seventies and eighties of who gives a fuck about NASA? So they weren't really getting the people's vote for budget taxes, all this shit, all the money they were sealing from us, They weren't really getting the public's okay on that anymore. They needed a reason to say, hey, how can I can we dip into your pockets? How can we dip into your pockets? If you don't fucking care about us, you don't care about anything we're saying or

doing because our moon landing sucked. But it's one of those things where they just it's a grant when everything's fake, everything you do is fake. That's what you have to do to move forward. What can we fake this year? What can we Let's come up with a plan. They come up with it and they execute. The execution is super easy. You go get astronauts, internal Freemasons, people already in your club. Okay, and then you say, hey, George Bush, we need your help. Who do you

know? You know anybody? You know any ladies? What about if we planted her in a school for two years, two or three years. Why don't you just plant some lady in school. She could teach first graders or whatever the fuck it was part time, I believe. To Chris and mccullos, it's like, yeah, it just wasn't. A forty year old forty years into teaching women, where she's got forty years of resume as a teacher, and they put her up in the air. It's a brand new teacher.

They pulled the we're gonna take her out of school. She's a brand new teacher. No one knows her, apparently, but George Bush hand selects her and says, hey, you're the winner. You're the winner of our contest. That was never real, but we have a contest, and you won you're gonna be a teacher. We're gonna propagate the fuck out of it. You're gonna be on TV every goddamn day for months and months and months until the Challenger thing happens. In the meantime, we're gonna, you know,

prop up our actor nots already in tune. You know, Judith Rusnick, Michael J. Smith, Ellison, on A Zuoka, Rich Ronald McNair um, you know, all these people that were already in the system. So they're like, hey, you guys, this is your moment. You've been waiting. You've been doing this shit with us for many years. Your high rate Mason. Maybe they just graduated in the same year. I don't know. They're like, hey, you guys, you're the class of the

Challenger class. Okay, all you're gonna do is be nice. Everyone where a lot of makeup all the time, especially Judas's ugly ass. Oh she's likely And I hate when people go, oh, I look at her. Back in the day, she was she was kind of pretty. No no, no, she wasn't. She had Hollywood glamour makeup twenty four seven. You find any photo of her with even half the makeup, and it's it's

it's like a grimla. She was very homely looking, as my point, so the NASA made sure that ninety nine out of one hundred public appearances she looks like Madonna. They had they had to do that, and I know why. But my point is is that they glamorified all of these people as heroes before they actually were right. So it's crazy. The propaganda was crazy. The news every day was talking about these astronauts. No one gave a fuck a year ago, but now, all right, they steer the agenda.

It's in everybody's face. Now here's the first event that I can remember, at least of researching, where the whole all the public schools in America. Sorry, I don't know if you got you got a test today or something, you ain't gonna have it today, because today is pull your fucking TV out and show them the Challenger explosion day. Just so happens. It's the only day that we're gonna it's gonna explode coincidentally, but it wasn't coincidentally.

Obviously. It was to make sure everybody gave a fuck about NASA again. Everybody cried together. Trauma based mind control. Everybody's in units together. Hey, you know, we're all kumbaya nine to eleven again, here we go, not again but original. Right, So they're like, hey, now everybody's like, NASA, whatever you need, Oh my god, throw it just please, yeah, increase the budget for NASA, guys. Let's just those are violin taxes apparently, so violin taxes. Raise the taxes.

NASA took more money from us, They started to increase their CGI, their networking, the there is this model. Everything started to kind of revamp after the Challenger. They got more of an audience after that, really, and then they really haven't done anything since then. To be honest, there's a lot of a lot of trickery that we've all exposed. But in terms of

something NASA has, what is NASA known for. They're known for moon landing that everybody's already debunked, and they're known for a Challenger disaster that a lot of people are just starting to witness was a complete psyop. So what else are they known for? Nothing? They're known for faking things. They're known for trickery, but they're also known for telling the truth. And I'll tell you how They're legal documents will all state that they test their aircrafts and everything

over a flat and i rotating station on Earth. So the reason being is so people like us can't sue them. People like us can't say, hey, you stole I don't want to do the math. It's it's in the beyond infinity dollar amounts of money they stole from us to fake all this stuff for all these years. We can't get any of that back or held them accountable because their legal documents say otherwise. Guys, their legal documents don't talk

about fairytale globes. They talk about stationary planes and non rotating earths and things like that that they bury under the rug because who the fuck is going to go research NASA's backlinks and how they how they test their aircrafts and what are they what do they do? Like, who who does that? No one?

What they do is they they look, run to the New York Post or TMZ or CNN or anybody that says, look, NASA found a new bottom of a frying pan and they call it a planet, and they go, oh yeah, so it's like, look here's science, there's sign. Look it's back by the news in the media. And then and it's and they share that and they think they're like a science guy for that, not

knowing that that's legal. That's under the WWE Act whatever that's called. I think it was a ninety two where basically you can lie to Americans and about anything and it's up to them to believe it. I mean, it's it's like, you know, trying to sue Vinsprictman tomorrow because your kid, you know, speared or jackhammered or rock bottoms, your your cousin and stone cold stunned him and now he can't have kids because his testicles are broken. And

you're trying to sue vispect man for that is never gonna work. We both know you're not going to get a sent anymore because of that law that was passed. So the media, NASA, everybody jumped in on it too, But they've been lying to us forever. Man. This is it's not new. It's just kind of legal now. Unfortunately. Yeah, from the get go, from the absolute get go, why well, let me ask you this, who do you think the controllers are. We've talked about the Rockefellers

and people what though out names like the Rothschilds. Many of the people who I've brought onto this podcast. We bring a lot of our listeners on, and they have mentioned that they overplayed COVID too much. I'm just kidding, it really is. COVID was a big part of this awakening. Number One, people were home, they had a lot more time on their hand. Number Two, when they started saying, you know, people who don't take the vaccine, they're going to drop dead. And here we are a couple

of years later and everybody's still walking around. So the I call them the controllers really overplayed their hand. I know, you see a lot of comments because you put a lot of material out there. Do you see a correlation with this kind of great awakening with the overplaying of COVID? Yeah? I do. And I really don't know to your original question who they are. If I was a guessing man, I would call them demons. You know,

I don't really know what else to say that. I don't mean that in a fake biblical sense of like people being like, oh my God, he said demons. I mean that in an actual spiritual way, like a realistic, low vibrating, soulless, gutless, fucking just whatever, right, just demons. Really, I don't know what else to call them. But I feel like demons are are into huge they're in a human form now and there they got to the top man, and I don't know how they did

it. Who knows. People are talking about there was a reset recently, and this world was reset not too long ago. And maybe the ones that stumbled upon all this Freemason. Oh did I say that? Yeah, Freemason. So if you look at the Freemason structures that they got and all the free cathedrals across the world, every single city was was completely built to last forever and have cathedrals and homes and structures that would blow your mind today.

You don't even know how they were made. But all of a sudden they just got rid of all these structures. Hit up, are you know? Covered it up? Talked about that they a lot of these buildings, they said too, were like built in nineteen twenty eight and then they were taken down in nineteen thirty. It's like, what are you talking about. You just you built like a billion dollar looking cathedral that looks like giants built it with their bare hands. You built that thea horse and buggy. I want

to see that video. By the way, there was videos back then, never saw that construction being built. But they you're telling me that a whole civilization of horse and buggy guys built these structures and then for no reason when yeah, two years later, yeah, let's just take them down. We don't really want them. We want the shit box construction that we have now, that's what we want. So for me, it's it's very confusing the

timelines. It's hard to really trust anything man, because they took everything away from us in terms of information. So it's like when you find new information, like say a Tartaria empire or other empires of the past that we're trying to tell us what this world was with their inventions, with their technology that they left for us, that was of course covered up. I mean, there was a book, Iron Republic. I always pick on it, but

it's a book that was in the late eighteen hundreds. Whether or not someone thinks that book is bullshit, like, oh, that's a fantasy book, Okay, Yeah, we can all agree on one fact though it was made in late teen hundreds. Okay, So if someone's writing a book in the ladyteen hundreds about not only finding more Land, discovering a new civilization, but seeing the technology over there that was out of this world. For the eighteen hundreds, it was flat screen TVs. It was the Internet, without saying

they were Internet electric cars. There was electrostatics a lot. The book itself is basically a guideline in my opinion, that the old world was being covered up here in the center of the world, the known worlds that we know of now, these seven continents. I think there's more even in our known worlds, but the seven continents we know of now, like this center of everything, like that's been covered up. Our history is covered up. So if they come in, if Rockefeller comes in and goes, hey, this

is your history, throw in the Western. Tell them that people used to draw in the middle of the street and turn around and shoot. Fucking hilarious. People think that really happened. Maybe it did. I wasn't there, but kind of funny to me, I don't know. It's just kind of funny our history they give us, and then the Western and the Indian and the battles and all the stuff. And then you look at this tour from

back in the day they video recorded them. It's kind of looked stage where they got these Indians and these cowboys and they're together and they go on tour and they like tour of the world, and they tell everybody about the history of the wars they were in. Wait, you're painting a narrative. It's like they tried super hard to start a new narrative of where we came from, who we are and what about what are they gonna say about the giant

bones and the giant structures on on? No, No, we'll I don't know, we'll do dinosaurs maybe, and then well, how are they going to buy that? Whereas I don't know what? Just fucking do it? Man, there's just if everybody just says it, you keep repeating it in a book, and you keep teaching the littlest kids possible this stuff, and when they get older, they're gonna teach their kids. It's a perfect circle

of bullshit. And the That's literally what they did, man, That's literally what they did was they brought in a false agenda, a false narrative, and their full agenda was to get everybody stupid by you know, the seventies and the eighties, probably preferably the sixties. They wanted it quick because they knew that they could not they could not sell space upper space. I won't call it outer outer The name outer space might be real when there might be

land outside of our world. But up in the air, the lights in the sky, those are lights in the sky. Guys. No one fucking knows. I don't even think they know. And to finish your question about who they are, I just think it's demons at war, man, that's it. And we're peasants here in their way, and you're gonna get trampled if you don't pay attention, if you don't know what's going on. I

just think it's demons going at it. Luciferians, Malarchians. There's different types of demons of the past that I've researched that looks like this type of person. They are the malarchians. They're the ones that sacrifice children, they drink the blood, they steal your kids. They'll murder a whole city. They don't fucking care. They're the worst of the worst. I can put them in the Clinton in Bush camps, right. And then you got people like

Trump and and others, possibly even Tate people that are Luciferians. They're not as bad. Okay, they're not as bad of a d but they're demons. Still, they're still fucking demons. People. You can't be like, come on, demon, help us. All the demon don't care about humanity. The demon cares about the demon and the demons that they're with. Okay, those demons are less evil, but they also all they want the Luciferians is power, control, money, just full control over everything, and they'll

do it by any means necessary. The Luciferians, they'll lie to your face every day and say, hey, we hate mass too. They don't fucking care. They don't care. They just want you to vote for them so they could stay in control. And again, there's less they're lesser of two evils. But I really do feel like this is a spiritual war going on right now, and that's why there is a great awakening, because you can't

stop it. There's nothing. It's if we're in a real spiritual war, which I feel like we are, then it doesn't matter what YouTube does, doesn't matter what Google does, doesn't matter when anyone does. The truth is coming. It's already here and it's going to continue to The ripple effect is unlimited, and it's we will be alive to see that the norm is the truth. I'm telling you it's going to happen in our lifetime. It will,

and it's I think it's Rod and Corner. To be honest, I agree, And I tell people all the time when I try to when I have a conversation with people and I try to introduce let's just say nine to eleven, okay to them, and something the general first hit back they're going to say is nobody could do that. How could anybody perpetuate that against throwing people? And what I try to say, and I was told this from someone else, These people like you said, the Trump's, the Bushes,

the Clintons, their psychopaths. That I can guarantee you that George W. Bush on September eleventh, two thousand and one, at ten thirty pm, he laid his head down on the pillow and he went to sleep. He

didn't lose a wink of sleep. Because they don't think like us. They have no problem if you get it in the way of the agenda, or you just happen to be you know, like hey, you were stuck in you know the time that way, you know, Oh well, if anything, George Bush was excited, oh oh yeah, you remember when the guy leaned over whispered to him in that that school in Florida, and you could see he kinda and those kids were channing would plane, steel and all those

different things. Holy kept, it's not a coincidence man, that you know nine to eleven two. I'm a firm believer in at minimum holograms. I don't. My research led me and I have a film on it. If anybody says I'm crazy or okay, just watch at least watch what I put together. It's called nine to eleven. Spell out the word nine, and it's on my rock fin and my website to download. But I show side by side. I had old VCR footage back to my VCRs back in the

day. But I had old footage. And then there's people that put footage on YouTube of their VCRU from just recording the news that day or whatever live broadcast, and it's you could see the full sky, no plane, nowhere plane, but the building exploded. So when people tell me like, hey man, what about those two airplanes, I'm like, I don't. I'm not a believer in those airplanes. Call me crazy all you want. Well, I saw it on TV. Yeah, I saw King Kong throw a

white lady out of a building too. I don't because you saw it on TV. Don't mean shit. It's the same argument. You can't be like, no, the moonlandings were fake, but planes hit. What's your answer, why are the moonlandings fake? Not fake to your neighbor because they what oh, they saw it on TV. But you're sing, you're saying it's fake, Fuck the TV, it's fake. Yeah, I'm also sitting here

saying fuck the TV. That there's no evidence of any airplanes. Guys, if you'd be real about it, there's no evidence of any air There was never evidence of any airplanes hitting those buildings ever. Besides, like someone like Mark Walsh, who is a Fox employee at the time, who knows he's probably on an island by now for doing his job. But Mark Walsh comes

into the frame. This is one of the only stories I found the day of nine to eleven of a h I guess you'd call it a you know, a witness right outside that you still see the smoke in New York. The only witness I could find just so happened to work for Fox. Not a coincidence. And he's like, yeah, I saw it. It was a seven fifty seven bowing. It was going exactly five h eighteen miles per hour. I'm exaggerating, but that's exactly what he did. And then he

goes. He goes right into the building and through the other side. It's like, you just fucked up a PSI up within a SSI up. You just proclaim now, Mark the crisis actor that because all the other people in my nine eleven film I may it's a very short film, guys, but all the other people I found were running for their lives. They were real people like us that were like, yeah, no, no, what are you playing? What? No, the building exploded? What are you talking

about? What do you mean airplane? They're confused because they haven't turned the TV on yet. Guys. They don't give about your teeth. They don't care about TVs right now. You don't care about Fox or CNN right now. They just saw the buildings explode, so later on they will be influenced by what was in the sky that day because everybody's confused. But it's a perfect storm. He just blow up the buildings and you say, hey, yeah, well, well then I saw planes in the TV. I show

them my film how they do that. I also superimpose a bird, a bird flying into the buildings, exploding it, Superman I'd made I made a UFO flying into it and exploding it. And any one of those stories could have been put on TV for you and you would have been like, oh shit, a UFO hit the World Trade Center the same result. Guess what. At the end of the day, the whole thing was set up. The whole thing was to start a war. The whole thing was to get

in Iraq and Afghanistan and to brainwash a nation that needed it. I'm sorry we needed that. We did because everybody would still be plugged into the matrix, probably myself, probably yourself and your audience if nine to eleven did not happen. We needed that. Unfortunately, everybody lost their lives a lot less than they claimed, but that's a rub. Sure, everyone that lost their

lives that day rest in peace. But we needed Unfortunately, there's casualties and more guys, we know that, okay, just like with the vaccine ward also there's gonna be casualties from it. It is what it is. All you can do is advise people not to take their home life. That's all you can do. Now, we couldn't advise anyone not to go up to the World Trade Center that day. And by the way, fun fact, just fun fact, Michael Jackson was invited to the top of that building that

morning. He slept in. I heard that, Michael jack They were trying to take him out. Oh no, but he touched little kids. Wouldn't they like him then? Wouldn't they love him? If that's what he actually did, they'd fucking love him. Come on, guys, come on, I'm just saying, come on, yeah. Want to kill him that day? For sure? I wonder why? Because innocent man knows too much, very powerful gott to ruin his name. Yep. I had a guy on, We did a pot on the Fact Hunter podcast, we did on the

Muse Sick Industry. And that song he put out back in the mid nineties where he was called there you Go, that was basically the nail in his coffin, just like JFK's speech about breaking the CIA into a thousand pieces was basically the nail in the coffin to him. Everybody love Michael Jackson, and

I mean this sincerely. Yeah, listen to my words to the audience, everyone, including yourself, including the person listening to me, everyone loved Michael Jackson wholeheartedly, your whole fucking life until win until who told you to stop liking the man that we witness with our own eyes. Take care of the children of the world, take care of the youth, rite checks for charities,

do things that nobody does anymore. Do all these things. Have concerts that sell three million tickets, and all that money goes to charity, goes to actual children. We all saw that, we all loved him, We all we all liked him. Who made you change your mind? When you can answer the question on who made you change your mind, you can redirect your thoughts to who he might have been, because there's no way. This is the most research that I've ever done on anything, is that that man

was completely innocent, one thousand percent innocent. And it's actually kind of frustrating in the truth community that they could look at someone like that. I get it. He No one said that he's a brad Pitt by any means. Okay, no one said he is a good looking dude or a normal dude or whatever whatever people say. Whatever the standard is, it's very challenged, challenging person and had a rough life. I'm sure the simple fact that the

media proved the power. That was the first time in my life that I saw what a lie can do and them making that shit. I did a book reporting school on this and that was one of my only a's. I aced that shit. I made the teacher change her mind in front of everyone. I was not playing. I knew that I had a journalistic mind. Back then. I'm like, there's no way that he fucking raped some kids. There's no way. And I knew. And even then, man, I knew. I'm like, they don't care about us. That has to

do with this, and no one understood them. But in my mind, I go, it has to do with this. He's talking about it. I didn't know I know now who he was talking about, especially for saying the words like kaike me and Jumi sue me and all that. But so

yeah, obviously, and I watched some videos. There was like a Rabbi looking guy, some Jewish guy sitting there saying and it was a hard copy tonight one of those shows, and the guy's like, we warned him, we warned him, and I'm like, oh Jesus, I'm like wait a minute, and then I just you know, and my later days like you know, five years ago, I started to kind of put the pieces together more realistically. Now, why would they smear him so bad for so many

years. Well, they're covering up their own internal affairs. You have to have a fall guy and the fall guy. If the fall guy's innocent, but the public would believe you anyways, that's a good candidate, especially a guy that wanted love, peace and harmony. Get him out of people's minds. We don't want collective consciousness singing we are the world singing, heal the

world singing, any of it. Man in the mirror. We don't want people that can destroy, literally destroy the consciousness of a new world order. We can't have it. We can't have it. And Michael has been warned, and I have so much evidence of that. This man was warned so many times to stop making positive fucking music. Now you got billions of people that listen to you, You fuck you man. Then he's like, fuck off, I'll do what I want. Okay, Well you're you're a child

molester. Good luck getting a good luck getting someone to want your autograph anymore. And that's the problem. And the point I made was everyone loved him and the power of the media made I won't say everyone, but most of the world turned on him instantly, instant. It wasn't even like we'll wait for the FBI investigation, which came back twelve years of investigating him. Nothing

not even a planted naked photo. They couldn't even make up. They're like, dude, we got nothing on him at all, zero and that's public information. But again, you could bring this to the attention of someone if they're so brainwashed with Michael Jackson comedy in their head, ain't gonna work.

Just like with the Globe you get if their program with the most hilarious NASA shit that's so fake that they accepted as real, then me showing them a glitch, a glamor, or a harness or it will not affect them because they are in love with the religion that is heliocentric. It's a religion, it's a religion to bring it back to the earth. Michael was just one

man on this earth to bring it back to the earth. If humanity understood that there's something in the north and there's something past the sixtieth parallel south, once they got word of it, even a sniff, that's possible. You can't keep humans in a cage. You can't do that. But if they don't think they're in a cage, why would they care, Why would they march, why would they want to go anywhere and do anything outside of their

slave system. They're already in nine to five money through Friday. You got your weekend for your sports, and you do it all again until you die from cancer. That's the system that you're in. Now you can get out of that same system. Just get out, take yourself out, do research, be a journalist, you know, do whatever, find something you're good at, and then do that professionally for your own business. Do it yourself,

and you don't need a job anymore. But once people realize, hey, we're in a fence or there's a fence line around us, like an imaginary fence line to globers, but it's a real fence line. It's called the container of our world oceans. All water's got to be contained, just like your bathtub. You can't take a bath without the tub, right because then it's just the water flevels out on your bathroom floor and it's not enough for a bath anymore. So the entire world is nothing but flattened level water.

Let's just be real, all waters level. It doesn't matter if it's a five mile lake or if it's a thousand mile ocean, half ocean, doesn't matter. It's all level. So if this entire world's level, then what's keeping the level waters in? Well, the highest land mass on Earth, which is Antarctica, which has already been reported to have two three hundred foot ice shelves. Yeah, are two three hundred foot ice shelves gonna contain an ocean? Yeah? I would think that you need to have that in

order for that to even happen. Oh, we have that. Oh, we already have that, We already have evidence of it. Okay, can we go over there? Because again the globers go, why don't you just go over there and take a picture of the edge. First of all, when the fuck did I say the word edge? Never? I never have it, I never will. But yeah, that's all I ever remember asked. That's all I'm ever told is why don't you go take a picture of the edge? What edge? If I'm swimming in a lake, find your

favorite lake on a map. Good, you got it. Great, there's your lake. Oh, great lake Geneva. I love it too, Great let's go to Lake Geneva. Are you gonna tell me be careful, don't fall off your lake while you're while you're in your boat in your lake fishing. Don't fall off the lake. Has never been stated from anyone ever. You can't fall off a lake. You know why, because the water's contained. What's it contained with the peninsula, the basin, whatever, the shoreline.

You gotta climb up and now you're on grass. No one fucking felt. What I'm saying is we need the right as human beings. Whether you believe in a ball or not, Guys, we need the right as a human being. They go, hey, look, we're at the sixtieth parallel. Now we want to go see what's over there. Period, And you can't stop us anymore. You'll get turned around. You know, they'll be

a ship there on radar. You're you're you're on radar. So if people will say, hey, we're gonna get some buddies and go on a boat and just head south and hit the ice wall and then try to get in through an inland and see if we can find another continent down there. Do you really think they're gonna lie you to do that. You're on radar.

They're gonna know you're on boat a thousand miles away minimum. If Marconi had an eighteen hundred mile system to go across the ocean in nineteen o two, I think today we can go three to five thousand, maybe ten thousand miles across the ocean. But either way there they know you're coming on ship. They know you're coming in the air. It's called radar. Okay, there's no curve, so there is no well after four miles there's a dip of curvature, so there's no more radar. No, they know you're coming for

hundreds, if not thousands of miles guaranteed. So how can we go over there and find this out? Because there's no picture of an edge. There's a picture of an ice shelf. You can type in right now Antarctica ice shelves, Antarctica ice wall video YouTube. There's drones that have been sent over there. Okay, there's a two hundred foot shelf. Now what I don't know. That's my point, that's my purpose in life is now what? Now? What humanity needs to go? Hey, they're saying we can't legally

go over there and look around. We're as off limits you think area fifty ones off limits, you have another thing coming if you think you can get over there and look around. Admiral Birds stated in nineteen fifty eight when he got back from exploring over there for the first time, and that was just one part of Antarctica, he came back and said, hey, there's another

continent a size North America that no one's ever seen before. Over there resources animals, and he said he can't believe that no one's ever been there. It's unbelievable what they do. Six months later they killed him. Then they started a treaty to say we can't go there ever again. Legally we can't. The main nations of the world signed, and then the rest in the nations followed, and then a year after that NASA starts. They made sure

everybody in nineteen fifty nine was focused on their fake monkey program. Remember the monkeys sending the monkeys up to space, right, so get them monkeys. And then they got Walt Disney ready to go preprogramming everybody for Man in the Moon. All the documentaries Walt Disney did. He had a big hand in the Nazi traders and Warrener von Braun, all of them. So they had this plan of do we got like fucking thirteen fourteen years before the moon landing.

We got plenty of time for tax scams, for animation, for prop because we don't have to prove shit yet. We hadn't go. We haven't gone to the moon yet. Once you go to the moon, now you gotta watch them. Yeah, but what have they done since then? Nothing? They did a challenger PSI up and then we're back here twenty twenty three. What has nast said done? And I tell it the globers all the time. What do you like them so much? Man? What did they

like? It's like they're your mother, Like, no, I gotta defend them. Why do you love them so much? What have they done for you in your life to make you a better person? No one has ever answered that. No. I think one person said something about a blanket they invented. I go, you gotta stop, you gotta stop with that show. They take three The space industries take three hundred and thirty billion dollars a year. That's the reported numbers, right, crazy number, right, But

that's the reported public number. Three and thirty billion dollars a year. So with all that money, what if they given to you because that can end. Not to sound cliche, I'm just keeping a real that could end homelessness in America. Yeah here we I mean period. But no, they don't

care about that. That could end starvation, that can end everybody could have their own little house in America for that money if you did the math, and then we could just give a little more taxes to increase that as the point, we should be able to determine where our tax money goes if you pay taxes. Of course, I'm sure in this truth community there's a lot of them that did the research to go, wait a minute, so that's another rabbit hole, that's another show. Yeah, that is a very parasitic

action that I think more and more people are waking up to. Another thing I want to talk about. I think one of the reasons that people don't really understand their freedoms because they think their freedoms, their land, their property, are given to them by the government. They don't understand their rights come from whether you call them natural rights or your God given rights. And that really when flat earth, when people await to flat earth, they truly understand

that. I don't have to answer to some actor named Donald Trump or Joe Biden that acts like he can control my life. That they don't control my life, and I don't allow them to. No, And it's really the perception exactly. It's your perception. At that time. You are in control of your own world. You are whoever's listening to this. You control your world, not mine, not Greg's, only yours. Once you realize it's

hard to in a heliocentric system. I get it. But once you realize that nobody has power over you, nobody, not even your parents, No, but nobody has power over you once you're an adult in my opinion, but nobody has power over you ever again and period. The government, your boss, a corporate, nobody has. It's all in your mind. It's all in your mind. If you think someone has power over you, then they probably do until you realize they don't in reality, and then it goes

away. It happens all the time, and you know, breakups or something. It's like my boyfriend was mad. It was mean to me my whole life for ten years. He beat me and it's like, why were you with him? Say, well, by the eleventh year, I realize I have a voice. It's like I get that and I respect that, but that voice is always there. It's always there. You control your world, You control where you go tomorrow, literally where you go, You control it.

But what they do is they bring in systems to try to impeach that. They try to bring in systems to say, hey you can't travel here, I need papers, Hey you need this, you need that. And what humans do is humanity go, oh yeah, I guess that makes sense. I well, we have to write no, we don't. We shouldn't. We shouldn't have any border. I mean, like I'm just maybe people would disagree with borders, but for me, like, this is one world, man, this is one entire system of a realm that we're in.

It's all of ours, it's all of our. It has nothing to do with money or stature, or credentials or doctrines or anything. It's it's our world here. This is it. And there's much more, in my opinion, than we're being led led on to believe. There's much more. And if if there was always I always joke with this number, but if there was three hundred continents in this world, there was three hundred continents, and

all we know about a seven, there wouldn't be any slavery guys. It'd be over these seven continents that are completely enslaved, completely in a lab rat system. If we all just said, hey, we don't want to be lab rats anymore. We're gonna go to the other three hundred continents. Fuck you, fuck off, goodbye. They literally lose their power tomorrow. They have I know that, I know, meet me and you. We know, like they don't have power over us. But to the people that say

no, they do. Okay, even at granted, even if you think they do, it's gone tomorrow if they're strange of continents, because you and your family can go live on one hundred acres for free. And if our old civilization has taught us anything, the ones that they covered up, not horse and buggy people. No, that was a scam. I do believe

there was a reset. I don't know how recent. I wasn't there obviously, but from the evidence and the lot of a lot of photographs sitting there now, I don't know who's leaking them, but you see all these photographs of like empty cities. Man, San Francisco is the best for me. You see an entire tartarian looking civilization with these buildings that were made for giants. All of it's San Francisco. But there's no one in the picture. You see these photos all over the videos too. No one's there, no

one live. How does no one live in San Francisco in eighteen ninety How does no one lived there? Doesn't make any sense. But you see mud everywhere. You see people digging mud up, and buildings that looked like they were flooded basically in something. And again, I wasn't there. But for someone to be like, oh bullshit, get this guy out of here, you weren't there either. So if you want to pick up a Rockefeller book, meaning you know, your kindergarten, your eighth grade, whatever book that

you believe in, because that's what you're defending. If you want to pick that book up, look at the back of it and see it's Rockefeller. Okay, Rockefeller created these books, created the narrative. So you can believe Rockefeller and be lazy and just say I believe that. I believe it. I was taught in school. Hilber's a weirdo. Or you can have some critical thought and say, you know what they lie about so many things.

I mean, for God's sakes, they probably still teach that Columbus discovered America when there's people already living here. So it's like there's so many lies in our school systems where I feel like a lot of people would in general public would agree that our school systems lie. But it's like it's like they cherry pick them, like if it if it's a lie, that doesn't really affect them, they're like, yeah, well, I mean, well they're just

it's kind of like Santa, it's just whatever. They just they're lying to your children though it's not really none of that happened. This is what happened in America. This is how Americas started. That's all a lie. You're okay with that? And when they say you know why, they say us a yeah, because it doesn't really affect them. It doesn't. But okay, so it doesn't affect you. Why do you want your children to be

taught this? Wouldn't they be better off being taught something else that's gonna affect their lives, make them better human beings, make them more uh, you know, beneficial to live here and be a part of society. No, they teach you about George Watchington's wooden teeth. They teach you about. You know, the solar the sol lure system of our science. I mean the first thing you get as a kid in school is the planets, right, the solar system. You gotta line up all the well, that's a lie.

That's all a lie. And again, if you're sitting there like, no, no, no, that's real. No it's not. I I'm sorry that you feel like it's real. But it's also included in the Rockefeller Foundation of lies. Guys, you can't cherry pick. You can't say that's a lie. Rockefeller's scum. They did this. They did they made petroleum based medicine. They ruined our society, they ruined our world, they ruined our system. They brought banks in every the house taxes. Everything is from

them. Everything you hate is stem from the Rockefellers, the Rothschild's, all these entities, George Sarrels, all of them are still here, a lot of them. And but when it comes to your science or maybe some parts of your history, you go no, But I want that to stay the same. I don't want that to change. I don't want that to be questioned, because then if my world, of my globe is questioned, then everything I was ever taught. It's probably a lie, and I don't want

that. Guess why, Guys, I didn't want that either, But too fucking bad. It's too bad because I'd rather know the truth, no matter how many sleepless nights I have from it. I'd rather know the truth because we're all gonna die one day. I'd rather die with the truth because that is wisdom. That is wisdom, that is knowledge, and that can only increase your vibration. With wisdom, and knowledge comes for me eternal ascension,

because that's the point of life. This is a test. This is a Mario Brothers type of game test, where as we all know a neighbor or a cousin, or an older aunt or something of ours that could never pass level three of Mario never, no matter if you trained her, no matter if you paid her. She no no hit b no. I don't know. I don't understand the concept. Maybe it's hand eye coornation. But my point is your aunt will never pass level three of Mario, no matter what.

And I'm sitting here on level one hundred and seventy four going Hey, level five, guy, get up to six, get up to seven, Let me teach, let me show you what I did, and you're like, nah, yeah, you're a conspiracy there's dude, fucking have fun in the seven levels of life. Man, you're I don't know what to tell you. I don't know where your ascension is going to be held, man. And that's how I feel. This life is just a test and not

everybody's gonna get it. Not everybody's gonna graduate to the next level and understand that. The test of life for me is understanding that we are immortal and that we're in a temporary avatar and what we do here is basically a reflection of where we're going to be. And that's my opinion. But I know some people think like they're gonna see like their mom and like God and like a gate or that's cool, you know, I wish that'd be nice.

But I'm more of a realist, a realistic person in terms of my own thoughts when it comes to that. And I do feel like it is a fall that you can close your eyes right now and feel like, make yourself feel like you're running right you can just make you can feel the feeling of what it feels like to run or what it feels like to jump from the free throw line in dunk. Right, you can close your eyes and feel that, you can feel your foot, you could feel the dunk. That's

what I feel like death is, but times a million. It's you still control all that. You're just you're not in your body anymore. That's all right. I went on a random tangent. But that's that's what I do. Man, No, you're good to go. Um, so many things to touch on. Have you ever gone down the world's fair rabbit hole?

Yeah, that's kind of what I was kind of grasping at that. I thought with the Tartaria and the and the old civilization and the world before us, because they had free energy, they had uh you know, they had these for what we know now of these churches. You see you go downtown anywhere, I don't care where you live in America, go downtown and you'll see these buildings that these huge archways, these Roman structures with these big pillars,

and they all like many white houses. Right. Well, those buildings, some of them at least, were reportedly built in nineteen twenty and then the entire community that that was in. So wherever you live, then, matter where you, I don't care where you live. The entire community of where that city is was just like that build Everything looked just like that until recently where they burn. Every city had a major fire coincidence, absolutely not

Chicago fire. Chicago fire think was the best, was number one, biggest, but Chicago also had the most structures. Look at the Science and Industry Museum in Chicago, just just one building. I'm I'm picking on your audience, Science and Industry Museum in Chicago. That was like a typical like probably hotel for back in the day or some just a nice little spot that the

whole world looked like that in my opinion and recently is my point. But the narrative would the timeline would say all that was built by little five foot eight men on horse and buggy. Well, no, that can't be. I think we all just like our back to our senses again that we're not moving the senses of No. Yeah, you see some of these structures, especially the ones they took down, where they got photos and video evidence of

it from the early nineteen hundreds. Okay, not there anymore, but we have evidence of it, more evidence than anything you could say about anything else. This is concrete evidence of these structures and where they go like, what's going on? And when you research these structures, they were not churches. To me, to me again, to me, my research. Maybe I went down the wrong hole, guys, But my research, my verification research,

is that Freemasons started religions. Freemasons stumbled after the reset and came in and said, look, we need to start like ten religions. And then he's like twenty, let's do twenty of them. Just start a bunch of religions with a bunch of profits, separate the world teaching education system. They didn't know how to do education yet early nineteen hundreds was a lot easier for him to figure it out. Rockefeller came in with a check book with the

banks too done deal. They were all in ingredients, but they sold this huge system of religion, wore false narratives, stories. Everything was brought into fruition in the early nineteen hundreds hard. And if anyone has a grandparent over, I think they cut off. Unfortunately, now it is like ninety eight, so it's going to be rare because it keeps getting up there next year

will be ninety nine. Is to cut off, unfortunately. But if you know someone that age, ask them, ask him about the World's fair, or even ask him about were you taught about Copernicus and Aristos sins and Galileo and the globe and spinning around the sun? Where you taught that as a child in school? And they will tell you absolutely not, not even a whisper. Okay, the shit is new to me, call it what it is. Well, no, Look there's an artifact of a globe statue from

sixteen twenty four. Look the copyright says sixteen twenty four. Yeah, it looks like the same artist impression that the other freemason made from that whole agenda. Just like all the artists impressions of Copernicus, Galileo, they allok the same, they all have the same artist drew them. If you notice you look at these drawings of these mathematicians of the past, which they're all known

freemasons. Right, we look at the drawing, you look at the impressions of them, it looks like the same guy at the same day drewmall. But yeah, we need we need like five masons, Bob, what do you need? Mathematician heavy, two a scientist, actually two scientists, and like I don't know, maybe like a doctor or something. Fauci. Now we'll save there for the future. And they just draw a person and go, Okay, that's the guy. That's our guy. Put a little Mason

thing on there, just to stamp it. Because we run the world and teach everyone in the world that these guys knew the world was a ball. He knew because of a telescope He looked in the sky that proved the shape of the earth, looking at a light in the sky with a one X telescope. Okay, so that's that story. This guy saw a boat go down the ocean. The Earth's ball. Okay, cool. So they guys these shitty stories of these guys that, oh they already knew there was a

ball. Yeah, all the Greek all the Greeks new three thousand years ago. These are stories that are printed in a book published by the Rockefellers. You can choose to believe it, or you can choose to go wait a minute, let me do some research and see exactly what's going on. How

much evidence of let's pick on aristoscenes, the Michael Jordan of mathematicians. If you found the shape of the Earth, then you're the Michael Jordan of mathematicians, right though, So why was the Michael Jordan of mathematicians not even mentioned, not even mentioned in a public setting, book, magazine, anything until I think the early nineteen hundreds, it was late eighteen nineteen hundreds. Never heard of them, Yeah, never heard of them. You found the shape

of the Earth stories just popped up freemasonically. Don't know who, I don't know there is three thousand years ago though. So again, when I talked to globe heads, they want to bring up these ancient but these guys knew. These guys are still a part of who I'm who. I'm going against the official narrative. The people that paint the picture for society and our education say this is the way it is. I'm telling you it's not the way it is. You don't have you don't have to agree with my views or

my films. But there's no way that you can consider yourself a truth seeker or a skeptic or a you know, fuck the government type of minded person and not agree with me at the end of the day and not see where we're coming from, and not understand at all. There's no way, and that's why millions are waking up. Millions are waking up via my films and everyone else doing their job out there. They're not. They can't stop us.

All they can do is create, create, have their agencies, have their agents go out there, make YouTube channels, try to debunk stuff or nail de grass tysons and all those first or even lower level, lower level, lower level scumbags that I call them a like Siman Dan and Professor Dave and these are all agents actors that they've been outed already. Is like people think Professor Dave's a real science professor. He's already admitted on camera, mouth

moving. I am not a professor. I actually pay people for scripts. Wow, Like yeah, these are these are fake people that their job. I think they're getting paid from the government, that's my opinion. But I think their job is to go out of their way all day. I mean, that's your twenty four hours, twenty four seven job is to go out of the way and debunk the flat Earth. How do you debunk something that's true, Well, what you do is your honey your honeypot. You have

straw man arguments. You do things like you show a piece of a movie called Behind the Curve from Netflix and you say, hey, look look they proved the shape of the earth is a ball. You mean Netflix told you what Bob said out of his mouth that we saw fifteen degree rotation. When he said that, Netflix had two choices show what was speaking of the stars moving in the sky before he passed away. I've spoken to him about this.

He was referencing the stars in the sky had a fifteen degree rotation and later in the day they went up a hill and the degree of rotation changed. That's because the sky is moving, clearly, not the earth. There nothing. It would have been the same exact thing if he went up on the hill and the earth was moving fifteen degrees period, but it was different. Did Netflix put it in the film? No? Did Netflix mention it? No? But the number one thing did Netflix? Sorry, dealta production?

Whatever? Did Netflix their stream? Did they show you when Bob said that a graphic or the reality of a time lapse of the stars moving around our sky? No, they showed you an animation of a ball spinning, meaning the earth spinning, as Bob said that in the movie. And people take that clip and they go look, Bob, Bob said, the earth spinning. Is this the world we live in now where you have to go that far and find something in a mockumentary. It's not a documentary. This

is like Leaving Neverland HBO. And I want someone to learn about Michael Jackson. Would I send them to Leaving Neverland HBO documentary? I'm sure Oprah produced. In reality, I wouldn't send them there. That's all garbage. What are you talking? What would I want you to learn about Michael Jackson through that? So when people are like, oh dude, people would call me when that came out, man, like legit, friends, family, like, hey man, we watched a Flat Earth documentary last night. The family,

I'm like, or our friends or whoever. I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh shit, I'm thinking like when I'm mine or you know, Eric de Bay Santos Bnazi sucking and I'm like, oh shit, would you guys watch you know, Behind the Curve and it's like my heart's like, I'm like, no, I knew I lost him forever. That's why it was made. That's why millions of dollars were put into the budget. That's why NASA was called, Hey, we're doing a flatterth documentary. You

want to get into this ship? Hell yeah, we do. We're going to paint the picture that flattered. There's are stupid flat earth. There's proved the earth was a ball in our movie that we edited and chopped up. And the end of the movie, the guy was says, huh. It's like, did you finish his sentence? You think a movie ends on the word interesting or huh or whatever. He said, that's how the movie's supposed to end. And I was like, oh my god, there's not flat

I can't believe it yet. No, they go that farther way to start the algorithm change on YouTube. It was because of flat earth, guys, so COVID people nine to eleven people were sorry, but it was because of flat earth that they started this trend of altering algorithms and changing things so they

can control the results. If you type in flat earth now on YouTube, you don't find me, you won't find Eric, you won't find any single Dave Wise, You find nobody as gives you real legit information to wake the fuck up. You will find BBC hit pieces, CNN hit pieces, Neil deGrasse, Tyson, Comedy Central clips, building the science guy, you know, make it fun of flat earth. I thought you're researching flat earth, so where's a flat Earth content? Where are the people talking about flat Earth?

There are none? Okay? And if there is guarantee, they're paid actor on paid one on page one, okay, because they control the results. Just for your eyes, understands this. You type in flat Earth documentary and hit search on YouTube, you'll see the results. Now, backspace the word documentary and type in sunset. So now you typed in flatter sunset. Shouldn't you see a whole new list of videos now? Isn't it strange that you see the exact same ones right now? Those listening and doing what I'm

saying. Now, backspace sunset and type in proof. So now you got flat earthproof. It's search. Wow, it's the same videos. Huh. So how would you expect to educate yourself on an alternative theory if this is what you're giving you to look through? So I have to go out of my way and travel and do all these things and take my free time to make a film. When I make a film, it's for someone like you that either you're tricked into this algorithm scheme, because all you're gonna do is

go and go a pancake in space. That's hilarious. Wait, there's no gravity. There's so much you're lost with their explanation, and then you fall away. You go, dude, there's not flat. I looked into it. You looked at them for an hour and saw what CNN and BBC said.

That's not looking into it. Or you can watch some of my films because I did all the hard work for you, and what you can do in my films, and I suggest you do this is you pause it if you disagree with something, if you hear something and go bullshit, there's no way. There's no way pause that. Pause it. Look it up. Once you see that. Oh yeah, satellites are attached on balloons. They're all on balloons. Once you see that, I'm right unpaused. Maybe by

the third film you'll just let it roll, but I can still. I will still advise you even the third film. Level with me my favorite of the three, in my third film, please pause it and go verify it. That's something NASA will never advise for you to do. I advise that you pause and verify it. If you need links, I'm not a link guy. I'm sorry. Go to NASA's website and look around for five straight years like I did. I'm not gonna give you any shortcuts in life.

You know why, because self truth is the best truth. You go and do the hard work and find the I want to see the raw NASA video. You have harnesses. We clearly see the harnesses in the video, but you could have made that. I'm gonna go on a limb and put my life out there and my name out there and fake something. I'm sorry, I'm not mainstream media. I don't need to fake anything. But for all in tests of purposes, you need to go find that because, trust me,

the battle, the battle to find some of these raw ones. The NASA hides it was out there, but they know people are paying attention now, so they're like, dude, man, we can't delete the video. There's that's a that's the biggest red flag. We all know on way back machine or whatever. We all know that the video was actually out and released, right, all these videos of fuck ups, So they can't just wipe them. That's way too obvious. So they kind of throw them in the

same algorithm. They kind of hide them. But it's funny though. If you type in like green screen harness wire NASA and then search by upload date or some crazy. That's how you do it. And you know it's funny too, is before you do the upload date to get the real stuff. It's funny sometimes NASA, the real video I'm looking for will come up. It's like they know. It's like NASA knows that people are looking for this video because of that, it's like they help me man in my search.

It's like, I just at this point, I feel like NASA just knows that. Excuse me that. I'm not gonna say half the world, but a lot of the world knows it's bullshit. So I don't think they really try anymore. They don't care anymore. They're not trying to do anything to sway anyone anymore. They're gonna keep doing the same thing. Rocket launches.

They show you three boxes of cameras ed edit. It goes nowhere. You see a little flame, little mouse crawling around on the flame, and then you know, they cut the feed and then people clap with face masks, and then it's over. And then all fourteen thousand people on YouTube that watch that live event, you know, they put their pants back out and they move on. My problem is that mostly humanity doesn't watch that ever, but

they believe it. So my job is to show humanity NASA and SpaceX and what they're doing and how it proves that they've been lying since they won. And I try to show a lot of NASA and a lot of SpaceX in my films because it's like, look, this is who you are supposed to believe. I'm just showing you for the first time. Because I know you don't watch It's okay. It's okay to admit that you don't watch them, So already out the gate. You're gonna lose this fucking battle with me because

you don't watch them. You don't know a goddamn thing about heliocentrism. You don't know a goddamn thing about your globe that you fucking love to defend. So before you open your mouth about flat earth flat Earth, remember, NASA defends me. Their documents states though their legal documents state they test their aircrafts over a flat, non rotating stationary Earth. So does the military, so does the CIA. So if you think the CIA, NASA, and the

military and myself are liars, that's fine, you could do that. That's fine because I'm telling the truth and so are they. Legally, I know we need to start winding down soon. I did have a question from a listener, and this is right down your alley. They Hollywood makes movies about everything. Why in the world have they not made a flat Earth type of blockbuster, even to the tune where they just ridicule us. Why will they did? Behind the Curve it's bigger than you think. Man. Behind the

curve is what took flat Earth from and I mean this sincerely. Behind the Curve is what took flat Earth from. Holy shit, guys, this is leading the league in algorithm. It is surpassing Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton search results. Everyone is looking up flat Earth. What the fuck do we do? It's gonna get out of control where within the next year NASA is going to be dissolved. This is ridiculous. It went from it's going to be that soon to how we got it? Make our own movie about it?

Call it a documentary, meaning from the flat Earth's perspective, you can't listen. I'm a filmmaker and I made three films on flat Earth. I had to sneak my audio into NASA illegally. If you watch Behind the Curve, they're invited into NASA headquarters. The backdoor opens for them. I'm sorry, guys. The people in that film, not everyone, not everyone. A lot of them were duped, A lot of them were edited and chopped up to where they didn't know. That's how the final product was going to be.

Like jardisms, like where's the rest of my what I said? They didn't even put it in there. Well, yeah, it's a hit piece. You should for me, it's like you should have known that. But that's just me. But you know, there's other people in that film. I won't name names, but I don't trust them. And people that are walking into NASA's facility, I you know, I don't know. Man. It looked like an agent doing a hit piece, getting paid money and keeping

the flat Earth community in a snow globe, as I call it. What they did was they they they took the flat Earth from what it was going to be, especially because when the Admiraal bird stuff surface and the sixtieth Parallel surface and the North Pole specifically surface, they didn't one anyone talk about more Land. That's a that's the biggest no no in all of this shit.

They didn't care about your little Truman show movies and you're hunger games, and you're all the little you know, coincidences of a look it's fall, look of the dome. The dome and the Simpsons they're okay with that. I'll tell you why they're okay with the glass dome over your head. It's okay. They could push that. Mark Sargeant's book too, that the domont and ship. It's okay, you can sell it, don't censor it. It's fine. You know why. It's fine because there's still only seven continents.

It's fine, no big deal. It's actually it's hilarious too because apparently you can write your name on the wall and Ant article you can, and Sean was here, Oh dude, cool. Yeah, So when you put that image up of a flatter the pancake a snow globe in space, it becomes a hilarious theory, which I can understand why people go fuck that rabbit hole. But that's not the rabbit hole I speak of, or most of us speak of whatsoever that are in it to educate and teach people that the globes

of deception. What we all admit is that we really don't know where we live. We just know that it's a stationary plane. We're in some sort of realms, some sort of system that was designed. It was created. Okay, So for the times of my life growing up that I said I believe in a god, I believe in a creator. You know why I believed in a creator. It is because of Helio Centrosome. That's exactly why I had to believe in a creator. Because I'm spinning out of control.

The fucking closest stars thirty six trillion miles away, Where the fuck's God to me? So I have to believe that there's a God up there, somewhere far up there. I don't know where the fuck he is, but I believe it, right, You should believe it, right. No, but see, once you know the Earth's a stationary plane. This place was fucking designed. You know it. That's right. There's no more believing you know it. And for those that go, well, there's really no difference.

Oh yeah, there is. Everything in your life changes. I've not had a nine to five and four years and I never will again. Look at that is like, well, that's blah blah blah. No no, no, no, no, no, no, that is my universe. That is my creator guiding me through this walk of life, saying Hey, you have a gift, and look at you, Sean. You're not wasting it. You're doing it selflessly. I've made free videos my whole life on this topic. I've woken up hundreds of millions of people, in my opinion,

collectively to these topics. So, yeah, when I bust my ass for a whole year of traveling in hotels and sweating my balls off and uncomfortably editing twelve hours a day in a chair, yeah it's five bucks to rent. You know, this is my life now, this is my career. Making films is my career. I don't have a job. But people call me crazy though, because as a filmmaker, go tell Quentin Tarantino or somebody to make his one year, two year project he made for free, he'll slap

you in the face. But I still do. I still do it. Call me crazy every every time I release a brand new film, no matter how long it took for me to make and how many traveling, how much money I spent to make this film. Sometimes I do ask for a fundraiser in the beginning, but trust me, that's maybe half of the budget. I don't ask for it all. I'm not going to expect it all from

people, but I do always ask for a little help. Again, I don't have income, but once the balls rolling with a fundraiser and I could start getting flights going and hotels going. That's the films out, um, Greg I I thirty days later, it's free on YouTube and and people in business you want to call it go dude, you're create. Don't do that. What are you doing? Why the fuck would anyone rent anything ever? Again? If it's just gonna be And I said, I'm sorry, man,

call it what it is. But I've made it this far. I'm not changing that structure. The truth should be free. It should always be free. And you know what's sad, though, is even during those thirty days of waiting, people will go out and leak my film. They'll go out, they'll go out of their way to it. Shit, I go, you don't have to. You don't have to spend five bucks to support

me to continue my next project and mission in life. And and also I have to eat at least once a day, so you don't have to support that. But if you're gonna be the type of person it just can't wait a few weeks to watch it for free. You want to go find a leak version and then re upload it on your channel. It's like, you know what, man, I mean, Karma is a bitch, that's all.

It's like, you know, I guarantee that same person that does something like that that and then and then and then judges me in the description and says, here it's free to the world because Hilbert charges five bucks even though it's free. Three weeks after it was two weeks after that day, I saw that Hilbert charges five bucks. Here, guys, it's free. It should be free. Here you go whatever it was, and I think to myself, I go, you don't have to support me. No one forced

you. Everybody knows it's going to be free in thirty days, so you don't have to buy anything. That's the beauty of it. I don't make you. But if you're not supporting me and my mission in life and the truth, then who are you supporting? And who are you supporting by doing what you do in terms of leaking stuff and trying to be do stupid show like that. Because I guarantee that same person Greg has a Netflix, a Prime, Spotify, a Hulu. Probably they're probably a Hulu guy. I

think he was a Hulu guy. My point is they don't mind spending fifteen, twenty thirty forty collectively one hundred bucks a month to support Hollywood, to support pedophiles, to support the corporations that they wake up every day and talk shit about on their podcasts or in their life. They don't give a fuck. They Oh, they look at their checking account and they wonder why it's low, and they go, oh, well, I need my Netflix. Though, well, I need my Prime, I need my YouTube Premium.

I hate commercials. You need all that, but when you need the truth, you're nowhere to be found because you'll you know, it's just a hypocritical world, even in the truth community we live in. And they look at me and go, you're supposed to do nothing for a cost. And if that was the case, guys, unfortunately, there would be no level films, there'd be no Fluvid nineteen, there'd be none of this because I'd be at work. Yeah, right now, I'd be at work. That makes

no sense. And if you think that there's a way to do it without either asking for help with a project like a fundraiser or saying, hey, I just finish a one year project. If you want to watch it in four K high def and streaming on your TV, it's five bucks. If you don't want to do that, thirty days from now, it'll be free on YouTube. Not in high deaf, it'll be in standard deaf, but

you'll be able to watch it for free. The information's all there. It's just like, hey, if you like swear words and you'll like high definition, throw me a few bucks, buy me a beer. That's all it is. You buy me a beer from my hard work. But you don't have to. But it's the point I'm trying to make is that the judgment that I face through the process of my hard work and seeing some of the

backlash of like, dude, I can't believe you're renting it out. It's like I will be homeless tomorrow if I didn't do this, do you. I just want your audience to be aware of that's this is all I have is my films, my videos, my message, my truth. Look at it as books. Every single film I have made is a book, and it's ready for the public. You can download a free ebook or audiobook on

YouTube. That's my centard definition and metaphor right, it's free or if you want to buy the book and buy the hard copy and have it on your coffee table. You're also supporting me. Nobody would give two ships, right if it was a book, nobody would have a problem because all books have to you have to pay for it. And I also thought all movies you have to pay for But only Netflix and Prime and all them. That's cool. You could pay Hollywood and Tom Hanks and all their corporations and companies.

No a big deal. It's just so natural to people that even truthers, it's so natural to them. They don't even realize what they're doing. How the hypocrisy they live in every day. They want the world to change. This is how we change it. We support one another. And if I knew some way that there was a guy that was going to try to change the world with something, call it, I don't know, just call it a photograph. I'm just it's a really stupid example. I'm making up on

the fly. But there was a way that this guy was gonna take a photograph that was gonna change the world, could possibly change the world. And he's looking for donations. I'm gonna get five bucks. I'm interested in that. You know why I'm gonna get five bucks, your ten bucks or a dollar because sounds interesting, you know, especially if there's a backstory. I know it's a random example, but I'm like, oh cool five bucks. Yeah, hopefully that turns out well and the finished result I'll be like,

oh, this is awesome. Cool that just changed the world. But people that look at my films and go, hey, that could change the world, well, it's not free, man, I wish it was. If you can find a hotel or an airplane that doesn't charge, I'm all about it. Let's figure this out together, because I the last thing I want to do in life ever is asked for help. You don't want to do that. It's it's uncomfortable. It's very uncomfortable, you know, and it's

not something that can ever get used to. But because of the results, and because of the bat the warm and accepting back I won't call it backlash. That sounds negative results, right that people have spoken they want me to keep doing this period. So the haters and the people and the let's leak his film and let's fuck him and all those people. Man. I used to really let it bother me, like get in my mind, and sometimes I would see myself agreeing with them, like, yeah, you're right,

why am I charging? Well? Oh shit, I can't pay for tomorrow's flight. Maybe that's why. So a lot of it kind of I go back and forth, but then I go, fuck them, dude. We have bought and rented movies our entire life. Now I am, I'm a producer of films, and I work my I work harder than I've ever worked at any job I've ever had. So in reality, I'm making way less than getting a nine to five, and I'm doing way more, not only for myself and my conscious, but for humanity and the conscious of humanity.

So I think it's a win win across the board. And with any trade, with any job, with any entrepreneur type of act that anyone does with their life, you're gonna have haters. It is what it is. But I think that the love that I felt, the truth community, it speaks. It just speaks more than words, man, that this is what I'm supposed to do and to keep going on. My next project will be called Old World Order, and I haven't really announced it yet, but i'll announce

it here. It's gonna be on our law, civilization, our past history. I'm gonna be having people like Martin lee Key flat with British Max Egan, doctor Narcolongo, a lot of the educated people, in my opinion, in their field of this past civilization, this history. These are the I call him like at least doctor Narcolongo. I call them the er Dubai of Tartarry, of this past civilization, whatever it's Tartarry is not. That's like

a general term, that's just one civilization. But basically the old world, right, the actual history that is being hidden from us. They're the experts in my opinion, and I've been told that, and I've talked to these people. I've had some of them on my show, and they're really smart in this. So I'm gonna be traveling to out of country in country, a lot of boots on the ground with this project. I want to go to these buildings. I want to go to these ruins. I want to

film them with my camera. I want to go there in person. I want to send drones up to the top of these buildings. Look. Look look at these antennas, see what they're made out of. Because apparently those were for pulling energy out of the ether and giving the whole world free energy and now they're charging us. So these are huge films that could be made soon here and Old World Order. The website is not officially launched yet,

nor has the fundraiser, but it will be on OWOFILM dot com. So when that's out, which is around the corner, there will be a teaser trailer and then an official trailer a few months down the road before the film's out. I have no deadline on it. I'm not going to have a deadline. And for everyone watching that is a fan of my Flat Earth trilogies, Part four is not in the works in my mind at the moment. Nor will there be a flat Earth film on April twenty second next year Flat

Earth Day. Last three years, i've released one on April twenty second Earth Day. Yeah, I'm not gonna have the time, especially with this project. I think this project is gonna be way too important to try to merge and rush rush this one to start the next one. Look, I'm ade three flat Earth films from three All three of them are completely different, completely

different topics, completely different vibe, completely different approach. I think I put my due diligence in with the flat Earth and I put my foot in that, and I stamped my foot in the copyright of the Truth. And I will love to do a part four, but there will not be a timeline or a deadline or release date when I do decide that. But this old world order, Man, Old World Order. I'll tell you OWOFILM dot com.

Once it's out a few weeks, it's gonna it's gonna turn a lot of heads because globe or flat, we all can agree something's going on with these structures. Something's going on with our timeline, and something's going on with the Truth, because it's coming. Even you globers, it's coming for you. I will maybe you won't let me take your ball away today, but eventually you're Santa Ball. It's just I think a lot of people feel it. It's just gotta go. It's gotta go, and a lot of people

are getting rid of it. Look at Sam Tripoli, he completely came out as a flat earther now like I'm just done with this globe. I can't he like I knew it was breaking him down because he couldn't fake it anymore. You can't keep having your successful podcasts every day with people and at like when they talk about Nebula's eight billion light years away. You could keep a straight face like, oh, I'm sure. Eventually he's just like, look it's flat. I'm done. No more globe. And I'm sure it felt

good for him, And I hope more more people do it. The sooner, Yeah, the sooner people get on board with. Look, guys, it's not a flat earth pancake in space mockery, hilarious, you're gonna get made fun of, ridicule. This is for real now, and there's probably more land, and we need the right to go and explore that, to take our world back, take our true powers back. March north. See what's really going on. See how much land they're hiding in the north.

See what's actually at the center. See if there is a magnetic mountain, Mountain Maru, which all ancients talked about, So, which is why compasses point north to begin with. The magnetic force from a mountain that supposedly produces the Aurora borealis in our sky. We can't go there and check, just like the South, we can't go there and check. So I don't know, man, My goal in life is just to get humanity on board with these treaties and the North Pole and find out a way to figure something.

Now, collectively, we need millions of people to do this. Man, this is not a joke. We would need millions of people to march south and north. And once we can get that, and I mean this, anyone can laugh at the statement, but once we can get millions of people to go north and south, the world changes the next day. And it's not that I mean that like, oh, I mean that. I know that that. That's a fact. The world would change the next day.

And I mean government's universities, everything's it's done. It's over. The system collapse. So we can wait for their reset, their artificial alien invasion, whatever they're gonna pull, next, next plandemic three point zero, whatever you wanted to call it. We can wait for them to try to reset us and take their world back for a new world order, or we can get our old world order back and have free energy, free technology and hopefully be

greeted by giants again. Maybe they aren't the North at least Admiral Bird's diary said the giants were in the North. But again, man, we can't even go check if people don't understand the red flags of not being able to legally explore past sixty of the south and not be able to legally go anywhere near the North pole without being turned around. If you knew that, then maybe you could think flat earth is just a little less stupid and then you

can go from there. Yeah, and the other thing. And I know we got to finish up, but flat earth destroys evolution, the Big Bang theory and all the other nonsense that goes along with it. And I get emails every single week it the flat earth has brought people back to God all the time. It is literally life changing when you realize that God is right above you, the Creator is looking down upon you. And again, people need to realize that your rights, their natural rights, their God given rights.

Stop looking to the government. And if you had a spouse, husband, wife that lied to you constantly, would you keep going back to them? Or a friend that lied all the time, would you stay friends with them? How many times has the government lied to us? And we just oh, there's a there's a flu going around. What do we do government? Okay, here, give me a shot. It's just mak Yeah, it is just Stockholm syndrome almost. Yeah, And you know, I fortunately

I've been blessed. I mean not eleven. When that happened in real time, I was questioning it. I've been a pretty skeptical person most of my life. Luckily, my mom, my late mom, she never vaccinated us. We had religious exemptions growing up, and so I've never I've never had one jab ever, not even as a baby. So I'm living proof that no vaccines can lead a good life. I probably had the human flu, like the I call it, like the fall, Like trees have the fall

every year. Well, humans have a fall every year. It could last twelve hours or three weeks. It depends on your immune system and your your way of thinking and your health. But you know, I can't remember, and I mean this. I don't mean to be that guy, but I really can't remember last time I even felt ill at all. Thank you charcoal and sea moss. But either way, I camember last time I felt ill. So to think that people around the world go, oh um, yeah,

this one was new, this was I was sick. The news set I was sick, and then I was sick. I took a PCR test, which test for the flu, but it told me I have a new virus. But it isn't test for the new virus. But it but it But that means But the doctor says, I have the new virus based on the test that tests for an old virus called influenza. But it's a new virus, so I need to wear a mask. They don't They've never isolated the virus, so they don't know what it is. They don't have no

evidence of a COVID nineteen virus. But I'm gonna trust CNN and Fox and MSNBC and the governments and just wear my mask and take my shots. That's your prerogative. I was screaming plandemic since the third day. I'm not gonna act like I was cool on the first day. On the By the third day, I was screaming plandemic, and I was screaming it ever since, ever since day. I was working at a club in la and I was the manager running the shop and I was the last guy in the city to

close their doors. The cops had to shut us down because I refused to lock down anything. I knew there was nothing going on. And even the owner of the owner of the claus U I'm like, I'm not. He's like, do whatever you want, man, I'm like yeah, I'm not shutting down shit man like, because I know there's no more I can't feed myself anymore or once this happens, and what I'm supposed to do, And that's what I did, honestly, as I turned in, What the fuck

am I supposed to do? Now? Everything everything I can do for a living is closed and I'm not going to be begging the government for money. Um So I just decided to start shooting films and doing my own thing. And I was it was a it was a it was a it was a risk, you know, but sure, I think I made enough noise in my central community, my audience right where I'm made enough noise the last five to seven years of videos getting millions of views and stuff and banned all my

videos that were banned. I felt like I made enough. I made enough noise in the truth community to say, hey, look, guys, I've been doing free stuff for seven years, waking people up left or right. But I want to take on a whole other mission. I want to go and make this my career. Make real films, feature films, get them out there into the public. Because if I just make these little free short YouTube videos, they're gonna be censored. I already knew that, and I'm

not gonna wake anyone up because the truth community is the truth community. You don't need to know this stuff unless you're a COVID truther. You need to know the Earth's flat. You should watch my films. That's fine. But in terms of the masses the public, I'm trying to reach them, guys, I'm trying to reach the ones at least in the middle, the ones that go, yeah, it could be a globe, it could be flat. I've seen both sides. I don't know, or I've heard about COVID.

I heard it was just the flu I heard they hijacked the numbers. But my aunt got it, she told me, So I don't know. So that guy great, I made FLUVID nineteen for him, the ones that are in the middle. So, so all the flat Earth is listening. All my trilogy, my trilogy, my three films. I'm sure you enjoyed them, but you didn't. Maybe they didn't learn much side level with me. We definitely have exclusive footage. We got one of the Challenger astronauts in

person at Yale where she works. Okay, um, so that was exclusive. So I got some and we got the Nasha astronaut in Florida face to face. Justin Harvey got in her face to talk to her about the uh that they they film all their spacewalks underwater. He said that right to her face on camera. And we got some other suits of footage with some science balloons center in Texas. We befriended him and he told us that he has

no idea what we're talking about. What what do we mean by satellites without balloons, because he knows all satellites aroun balloons, he tracks them all. So we got him admitting that. So we have a lot of exclusive footage in level with me. But overall all three of them are basic knowledge,

one on ones of the flat Earth, the sub Mooden stars. No, no, I mean there's no movement, there's no curvature, all a NASA's trickery, all about more land stuff, and and yes, um they're speculation maps, but maps ideas of what our world could possibly actually look like. We can go fucking explore it. But at the same time, there's nothing I have made that wouldn't help someone realize what's going on. I do it from the strategy of either you don't know the information or you've heard about it.

So my films would never be for someone that doesn't even know about flat Earth, hasn't even heard rumors, hasn't even heard a joke at least about the Earth's flat. You need to know something, you need to have heard something, because I guarantee that same person is confused. They think we're a snow globe. They think we're a pancake in space. They think you could fall off an edge, they think that there's a dome you can hit your

head on or something. There's all this these question marks. No, there's no answers to them, so they just write it off. So I make these films for a reason. If you and anyone listening Hilbert Productions dot com, it's double b E l E R so hi bb E l ear Productions dot com. Everything I've ever made, everything I ever will make, will be on there, including my my podcast, The Hilber Effect as well. I've had guests on there talking about some of this show we've talked about today

and other topics. Um Eddie Bravo, Jim Brewer, doctor Andrew Kaufman. Um, you know different, Bryson Gray. I just had Chris Sky on the Freedom Fighter in Canada. I love him man, He's he's he's a he's a personality and a half. But I couldn't get one word in. But that was still a good That was still a good show. UM. But now so again I do it from two angles. I have a show so I can talk my truth with others, UM that have a complete I know, like most of my guests, they're nothing like me in my mind,

but I want to I want to talk to him. I want to see where they stand in this world. Were there, what are they doing to help this world? What can we all do together? Right? That's kind of my goal. And and then I have my films, UM, which is the most powerful way to wake anyone up as by through media, through video content. So UM, hopefully anyone in your audience listening UM can go check out some of my work and at least understand where we're coming from.

You're never going to get a better serious approach to a flat Earth topic than my three films. And that's no ego attached, guys. And I've done a very small twenty thirty minute video documentaries on different subjects, and I can't tell you the difference from just doing simple audio podcast to the time and

effort it takes to make a video. So please, if you like all the content that you've heard tonight, and I'm telling you I've seen all of the level videos, I'm going to go back here over the next day or two and watch Straw other movies. I'm really interested in the psy ops because twenty twenty, my goodness, what a psi op that year was. But

please support people in the truth community. Like Sean said, we're so quick to pay for our YouTube premium, our Netflix or Hulu, so on and so forth, and by doing that we are supporting the people who are suppressing us. If you're going to beat the system, you have to walk away with the system. Like I always talk about, we barred. I have a great community here. We have Amish folks we barter with, and that's really just the way we're ever going to break away from this evil, evil

society. And a one more note, how awesome would it be if they didn't take out Carry Mullis before this whole COVID thing. Could you imagine those soundclips we'd have with Carrie Mullis when they start using that PCR test. Yeah, it's like I had enough soundclips of him for Fluviid nineteen, my film. I had enough soundclips of him or the past, you would think that he was alive. I know. He was just railed on Fausci and called him a fraud. You said Anthony Fauci. It's in the film Fluid nineteen.

Okay, it says Anti. He said, Anthony Fauci has no problem with going right there on National TV, looking right into the camera and lying right to your face. He has no problems with it. He's paid to do that. But he's talking about his own PCR test that it takes a whole lot of nothing and turns it into something. It magnifies the smallest molecular cell in your body, so basically one booger in your fucking nose, you're

positive for something. Yeah, and then and then the news made it seem as if as soon as you're positive, you need to put a fucking bubble around your house, around your house, tell Grandma to fuck off. So the whole thing, it's like, you know, dude, I mean, you could see this puzzle. It's it's the it's worse than nine to eleven. The puzzle, this puzzle piece of COVID was so lazy and so obvious. Um, I'm just shocked that they got away with it, man,

because it kind of did. I mean, you look now, it's like if if I don't see Fauci lynched in prison and and buy it in and and Barack Obama and Michael Obama sorry for those I think that her name is Michelle Uh. If these people aren't fucked up in real life or or hung or or tortured or throwing in prison. I think throwing in prison is lazy. But if something doesn't happen, and in my opinion, the next few years, we need to make it happen. And this is no way of

threatening anybody. I'm I'm not a violent person, but I'm sick of it, that's all. I'm sick of it. And I'm sick of the pussies that live in this country that's that scream America and do nothing but sit on their ass every day. Yeah, when there's actual old fucking dweebs out there stealing our children and fucking them in the ass and drinking their brain blood, and you're like, oh, America, shut the fuck up and go do something with your eight shotguns. In your room that are collecting dust. I'm

sick of it. I'm not an assassin type, So I don't mean to be a hypocrite, but don't be talking. You know, all these people, they're tough America, This America that our children are getting raped by the minute. No one fucking does a goddamn thing about it. That's all I'm trying to say. And it sucks, man, it sucks that I wish I was an assassin. I taught to Bryce Mitchell on my show, and I've had many conversations with the UFC superstar just on my phone, just personally.

But he's an assassin. He's an assassin, Joe Bauman, King Boo assassin. These are assassin men, elpha men that will go assassinate people with their bare hands, and they want to. There's millions of men like that. Where are they can't just have a few that I know. We need millions of these types of people to go and just go take these people out. That's it. It's not even about murder. I'm not talk about murder. I'm talking about just remove them from the building, put him in a

put him somewhere, give him food if you want. But why are they running the show still? Why is Jimmy Kimmel still open for business in Hollywood? He's on the Epstein List and he's been caught many times with children wearing he like, he gloats about it on a show, wearing pizza boxers and pizza everything. Everything's pizza with Jimmy Kimmel. He's a pedophile, guys,

and he's on He's been on Epstein's Island how many times? Why would a society I know it's California, but why would you allow him to continue working go into his free mesodic building in Hollywood and pull him out? Why? Oh, I'm scared the police? Yeah? Again, everything is compartmentalized. They got the police in their back pocket, They got the judges in their back pocket. What do we do well? I mean, we can keep singing Kumbaya like we have been since nine to eleven, or we can go

do something. I don't know what you guys want to do again. I'm not a violent person, and I pray that we don't have to use violence ever. But the one thing that the New Testament will not talk to you about and not admit is that what they took out and what they hid from you. They hit a lot of scriptures from you that has been altered along the way, and they're all in the Old Testament and the Koran and all the old books of religions that tell you that if someone I don't know the

words, I'm not a scripture guy, but I'm not. This isn't verbatim. All I'm saying is that the New Testament is talking about if the enemy comes to you, you turn your cheek. Fuck that shit that said new bullshit that they want to teach you about the New Testament and all this shit, it's bullshit. They want you to sit there and wait for a savior, wait for someone to save you. It's garbage. You can only save yourself. And there's many scriptures of the past that have been hidden from us,

and the vatic and knows this too. There's scriptures all over the place that say, I know it's still in the Quran, I believe, but basically not in Layman's turns. But if someone comes and fucks with you, to fuck them up, what are you talking about? Evil approaches your home and your family. You don't turn your cheek. You destroy all evil in the name of God, and you clean this fucking place up, guys,

seriously, and that's the problem. They got you with religion, they got you with the media, they got you in school, they get you every way. To make sure that you turn your cheek and you be a good American and pay your taxes and shut the fuck up and let the people that you pay their salary, the police, the government, you let them tell you what to do. Now. Fuck that. That is the most backwards

thing I've ever heard of. And if people don't get on board with that fucking cop and that government official works for you, that we're all fucked. We need to take back our power, our world, and most importantly, our country because it's going to shit. Man. I see green hair everywhere. I'm sick of it. Yeah, it's even in the last four years, the decline of our country sadly has just gone down. And that's because we put trust in other people. One thing I do want to mention before

I forget, you had mentioned about the no plane theory. I remember when I got an email a couple of years ago. It's been years now, but it was an email about, Hey, bro, have you looked into the no planes theory? I felt the same way when I first heard of flat earth, and then I remembered, oh wait, it is flat So maybe I should look into this, and everybody who's listening google what it looks like. What words would you use? A plane hit or a bird hits

plane? And then look at images? Oh yeah, yeah, I like okay, to clear up, so your audience, those you're saying, yeah, yeah, a bird call called a regular bird in the sky if it hits an airplane, even when the airplane's land so they have to be cruising out tude if it hits it. If it that it's dented to shit. I mean, the whole thing looks like it got in a car wreck. Okay, and that's from a bird. So you're telling me, okay again, granted you saw it on TV. Put that aside for one second.

Let's think logically. We'll end on this. Think logically here. Okay, fuck what you saw on TV and fuck your feelings on nine to eleven for one second. I know it's hard, but just try to pause him. Explain to me how two, not one, but two aluminum airplanes went through or in like butter reinforced steel. I'm gonna say that again, not a bird, not flesh and wings. I'm talking about reinforced steel. Those airplanes would not the airplane knows, would have disintegrated on impact, and the entire

airplane would have fell to the ground. It wouldn't even have got through the first column. If you think that an airplane can get through the first column of one of the strongest built structures in all of the country, you got another thing coming. And if you want to tell me that there's an airplane of any sense, you need to tell me how the fuck you came up

with that conclusion. And if you if you come back at me with ABC twenty twenty or Nightline had a family on that said they talked to their son or their brother or their dad on the plane before it. It now explain to me how the fuck did they make a call. And if you listen to some of the calls, they're so the crisis acting is so bad that they won't even use them in present day documentaries anymore. They're so bad. Hey mom, Hi, it's your son. That's one of them. I'm

just picking on one of them for you guys. Hey mom, Hey mom, Yeah, Hi, it's your son. No one talks like that. That's about to drive into a building and die fucking idiots. So again you need to think logically, not only with the airplane, but with the passengers and everything else there. No, those were created. Airplanes, there were created, flights, light never took place, No one was on there. You you'll never be I've done how many years has it been goddamn my whole

for since it happened. That's all I've looked for, and it's never been proven and never can. They don't even fake it. There's there's absolutely no evidence of not one, not two, not three before airplanes being hijacked that day. Think about the last one, guys. It just disappeared into the ground in Pennsylvania. It just I don't know. There's no wing, there's no no black box, there's just no nut. There's just nothing. There's just a hole in the ground. And again in my short film, I

got witnesses on the ground that day that said on TV. Actually I don't know if the news wanted to play that, but um they did, and they and the guys like, yeah, we saw no no plane, no nothing. Um, it just appeared somehow just there. This is a hole there in the ground, and no idea what happened. There's there's nothing in the sky, in the air, nothing thing hit the ground, nothing in There's just a hole in the crowd and all of a sudden, So and

obviously they have technology like direct energy weapons. There's things they can just shoot down. It's really really simple, which I actually think they used direct energy weapons four nine to eleven, now that I do more research, like to actually explode those buildings up, that's a whole other rabbit hole. But yeah, watch the film again. It's it's it's less than thirty minutes. It gets right to the point which most of my old stuff did. And I

show you side by side. I have camera angles of the building exploding, the tower of one of the twin towers exploding, and you see the same angle from another news feed. But now there's a plane at a plane inserted. So if you were watching ABC at that exact time, you saw a plane. If you were watching CBS at that exact time, there was no

plane in that angle. So which one is it? And I did that with multiple angles, multiple angles, and then you see the different plane and say, not every plane, in my opinion that they showed on TV was even the same color. Guys, But when have you win would be a time that you would have noticed this on your own unless you did what I did by looking at all of them side by side. When have you done that? As my point, until you do that, then you can't have

any opinion about it. So I do it for you. And again, like I said before, pause my films, go look it up yourself. Go look it up, especially the CBS footage of it. The CBS. You could you can do this. You can go to CBS dot com, go to their archives, find their nine to eleven video, or go to

YouTube and trust it because it's the anchor, it's live CBS. You could tell it to real okay and find the original footage of that day, and you could see when they show the plane going in the building, you can hit pause at a certain frame and the wing disappears and you go, oh, it's a CGS not CGS. Sorry, that's say you know glitch on the TV. Well, I got it from three different camera angles though,

so to me it means too things. One, it was lazy composite, which is live compositing, which just happens that the master of the country in live compositing just so happened to be the camera operator in the helicopter that day. No big deal, no big deal, just the same guy that mastered all the technology to do live compositing. He's recording. Oh okay, yeah, coincidence, guys, But either way, he's zoomed in at the last second. And then the actual airplane went in through the building, so they

called it Pinocchio's nose. The plane went through the tower undamaged, not even bent, the same nose plane and I freeze frame it for you in the film. So that means one of two things. One the whole thing's fake. Or b. Yes, an aluminum airplane went through the entire World Trade Center structure of reinforced steel columns and came out the other end of the building without a dent in the nose of the plane. That's your other option. If you choose option B, please stop at CVS and get your fifth jab.

And that explains why you have a Pinocchio and your movie poster. Hey, man, Hey, you're a smart guy, you get it. But yeah, and it's just the case, man, because I just I'm a logical guy, common sense, you know, And it does seem harder to believe a theory, right, a conspiracy whatever, seems harder, but not

sometimes, guys, not when all the evidence leads to this answer. And when you try to look at if you try to prove box cutter, Middle Eastern box cutter guys going on airplanes, if you try to prove the official story, is my point, you will get absolutely nowhere in life. You

will find nothing, in no form of concrete evidence whatsoever. But once you start looking at it from a journalistic standpoint an investigator, like you know nothing that happened that day, you have to go into investigating it like you don't know anything. Then you find, well, I can't prove that they're where airplanes in the sky that day. And that's what sucks is you're like, wait, I can't prove that. And once you go besides the news footage

of airplanes hitting a building, that's all I got. Now you might have an issue with yourself at that point, because now we're back to Michael Jackson. You have to believe the media to say that that's the truth. That means you're admitting the media is not lying during this situation, and they are. They always do. That's what they're doing. If it's a major headline, it is a lie and they have done that for a long long time. Even school shootings. I'm so sorry, guys, but nine out of

ten of those are complete and utter fake and and and orchestrated events. I made a film called The Truth and plane site a lot of the crisis actors and school shootings and Las Vegas shootings, and all all of them are psyops. All of them are orchestrated. None of them a random And I wish the world knew that, because then they stop having this fake emotion called fear running through their veins twenty four hours a day, which keeps them being pussies.

Goes back to my major point of no one does a goddamn thing because everybody's living in fear. Even Truther's live in fear. And we need to stop man because and that's why I shround myself with people that are fearless. Bryce Mitchell, Eddie, Bravo, Kingbao, Joe Bama's number one to mean

the man has no fear. That's why when you can whoop someone's ask in a UFC ring and then grab the microphone after and said, Jimmy Kimmel, you're a pedophile, Hollywood, You're all pedophiles, that's because you don't have fear. You don't think of repercussions, you don't think of you can get suicided because all of that fits into a fear bucket. And when you don't

have any then you can literally make change in the world. And I'd rather surround myself with people that don't have fear than people that hide behind their camera. They would't even show their face anymore. It's like, dude, it's time to show your face. You know, all these channels like well, it's like you gotta are your face now. It's it's getting that ship's getting

old. We need to stick together as humanity, come together, and people like you and others like you that that's this is how it gets done. Is it all starts with speaking and then we have to take action, of course, And I don't know when or where that action is going to start. I'm waiting for it, and no, I'm not one to go I'm waiting for Trump to arrest everyone, not one of those guys. So sorry, so sorry if you think that that's going to happen, because it ain't.

No but citizens arrest I think there could be thousands may tomorrow if we actually wanted them. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, this has been an incredible two hours. You've been very generous with your time, and you have been at the tip of the spear in the Truth movement for many years. And I know it's awkward for two things, number one to ask for money and number two to get compliments, But I always look up to you. I look up to David Weiss, and he I know he gets the same struggle.

He asked for what three dollars to ninety nine A yeah, Oh god, he's a piece of shit. I'm like, have you I've been in his home? Have you? First of all, he doesn't have a mansion. Okay, I do know people probably think he'd probably does no normal size house. But the point of me going to his house multiple times is have you seen a server bills? Have you seen the bills he has for his app? Uh? If I had those bills to run that app, I charge ten bucks. That's all I'm saying for sure. Yeah, those like

the how how turn a guy his six seven thousand dollars a month? For these people in the truth community to get to get the word out and many people like myself, If I can break even at the end of the month. I'mful. I'm thankful man. Yeah, I know me too. Man. I'll tell you right now. It's like sometimes it's like if ten more people can rent my film, then I can get that new microphone. It's like, I I that's how. That's how I live my life now.

It's just it's like maybe if I go on one more show this week, I'll get a few more rentals and then I can go get that microphone or something that. That's how it sucks to live that way, not being able to really budget. But I literally put all my faith in our creator, man, and just go, look, you got me to this point in my life. I don't have an alarm clock, and I have no one to listen to but you. I'd have no one else to listen to. So if you can, if you can help me eat along the way,

I'll do this forever. I don't care about like you said, I just kind of draw even. Yep, me too, and guess what I'll take that forever. I will take it forever. I would take hard work, dedication, and changing lives attached with breaking even every month opposed to making six figures at a corporation that I know I can start next week. I'm good.

I don't want to do that. I think working for a corporation to do sports stuff or anything I really want to do in life, because I'd be able to prove to any company that I could do a better job than their own intern So yeah, I could just go that route. But I'll tell you right now, that'll never happen. Even if everyone that supports me stop supporting me tomorrow, I'll just be homeless. Man. I'm not going back into a slave system, corporation, tax paying nothing. I'm not doing

none of that ever again for the rest of my life. So hopefully our community, in terms of the truth community can just keep it that way, in terms of at least I can eat because I'll tell her and I'll never do it again. I don't care what happens. That's why all I can do now is say, hey, what does the world want to see? What is the world looking for? And all I've heard the last six months is Tartaria, old world, the loss history. They hit our technology.

There used to be free energy, like fucking eighty years ago type of shit. Like I don't know what they're talking about. So I'm like, okay, I've always been interested in that. Might as well do a fucking full future film man and fly all over the world and give what the people want. Why would I have a fundraiser for a new film coming out soon if it's or something no one wants a lot of people want. Because here's the thing, here's why, and this is why I made level. There was

nothing, is there a film on it? I'm behind the curse? So you go, uh no, But listen to Eric. He talks behind a slide show for three hours. You should listen, but most people won't. They don't. They're not gonna sit there through that. They're not gonna sit there listen to odds raps. They're not gonna listen to Santos Panacci and his advanced astro theology. They're gonna be lost. Who do you recommend? Wh what do you? Who do you show? I tried to do it per

person right. I think they will relate with Eric Moore, they will relate with Dave weissmore, they will relate with you know, la la la la la la, And I go, you know what funk all that? Because I felt like none of it ever worked in my personal life? So I go, I'm gonna do my vision of everything. But if I do it from a one on one standpoint, I can actually wake people up in the process. Can't start a film off with advanced information where you already graduated as

a flat earther. Now you want a film, I don't. I'm I'm not there for you, guy. I'm not going to make that one for you. You can make that one for yourself or for your peers. But I don't feel like an advanced flat Earth type of film to please flat earthers is ever on my list. Why the fuck would I do that? That is a waste of time in my opinion, because I'm still trying to work on eighty percent of the rest of the world that it's still spinning out of

control and their fantasy ball. You need to you need to slow their ball down one step at a time. I have three steps, level the next level, and level with me by the third step. If they don't get it, they're never going to get it. And I mean that sincerely and wholeheartedly. If you watch all three of my Level series and you don't get it, you will never understand where you live. And I can't help you. I can't help you, and no one else can and call it ego

if you want. I just know the facts. If you watch all three and you're not and you're still glober, I didn't fail. There's something wrong with you. I'm sorry. Spent too much time in those Rockefeller textbooks. Yeah, well, man, I just study the human mind along the way, and I understand how they programmed us. I get how they did it. I understand it. I get I can grasp it almost all. And

to reverse that effect, it's pretty easy. But you need common sense and you need to be critically thinking, because the laziest thing to do is just believe. Man, that's all everybody. That's all anybody does in the globe world is believe. There's nothing and and no offense to the extremely religious people, but same with organized religions. To me, they all you have to believe. And I'm sick of believing. I'd rather know or not know. If I don't know, I will say, look, I don't know,

Hey, what happens after you die? I don't know. Neither do you. Neither does your neighbor, neither does your best Nobody knows, so that we can all speculate all day. We have fun speculating on that shit, except when you say you just die like a cockroach. Okay, yeah, you're no fun, but everybody else can have fun with it. But in terms of where we live, there's facts, guys, there's evidence, there's science behind where we live. I spread it out through three films, and

I want to thank you for having me on. I want to thank your audience for listening, and I hope if anyone of your audience goes, yeah, I don't know about this flatter stuff. Again, if you made it this far and you don't want to kill me by telling you it's flat, that's a good sign. Go watch the films because you're ready at that point. If you want to kill me by now on this error, don't watch my films. And you don't have to take my advice, but CVS should

be on your way to work tomorrow. Just go ahead and get that fourth one man, because this war that we're in, I'm sorry I used to cater to people like that. It's a waste. It's a waste of your energy and mine. I'm done. We should all be done because if our God wants wants them to be taken out too, then then they will. Because if God's soldiers try to wake people up and they turn their cheek fuck them. And I think God would agree at this point because we're in a

war and there's gonna be a major cleansing soon. I just hope that we come out on top because I think this world can be as beautiful as we all want it to be. But the number one thing we need is love and truth. And without love and truth, we get hate and evil. And that's what this world is surrounded by right now. And myself and yourself are doing everything that we think we can do to inform the public on this and to make the public help the public change so we can get our world

back. So if it's if it's talk shows or movies or music, no matter what we do, we all need to come together for one purpose, and that's truth. And of course you can't have truth without love, so

um, those things go hand in hand. But if you're against the dark forces with me, if you're against the evil, if you want to shed light on the evil too and show these deceptions that are un voted for rulers quote unquote, UM, you know use on us, then you know, get on board and do what you can in your community, do what you can in your field of knowledge to get the word out there. But it's a it's a it's a crazy day and age we live in right now.

As you know. I'm just very hopeful. Man. I taught to a lot of fear miners all the time that say the whole world's gonna end soon and they're gonna, you know, alien invasion our ass and blow everybody up and all this and blame it on aliens. And it's like, yeah, of course that I know that's their plan, it's one of their plans. But I'm going to speak out loud that they're not even gonna get to that point because they won't even make it to that day. And that's what I

truly believe. So hopefully humanity can make me know that, because I'm sick of believing it. But I do believe that that we will win this war, and I think that we kind of already have. I just think they make it seem like it's it's going to continue. But I think we won this war information war, because the truth sets will set you free. Right. So the truth is out there, you know it, and I know the truth on where we live. The truth on COVID the truth down nine

to eleven. Everything's out there for you to find. I think this is the number one time in humanity that it's all out there at once. Either take it or leave it. I think the ones that leave it behind will be burned in this war. They will be left behind in this war. I don't think the leaders want you here, and I don't think God wants

you here anymore. I'm sorry. I know a lot of people will disagree, and I respect you, but I feel like it's time to get rid of the people that don't want to be a soldier of God and don't want a good world. And the ones that defend the pedophiles, the one that support the pedophiles, the ones that are okay with it and turn their cheek, they will pay the price. And if you don't think God wants them erased, God does. But the problem is is that a lot of those

people are the same type of people. They were two masks, they got five jabs, and they watched Kittie Port at night. Okay, I put a lot of them in the same field. They don't belong here anymore, unfortunately, And there's part of me man that thinks that the elite whatever you want to call them rulers, quote unquote, that's all it is to them. There's a small part of me that all it is to them is to them. Now, of course we know we're not overpopulated, but to them,

there's just too many fucking idiots. Man. Anything, we could fucking fart on TV and they'll go, Okay, they hate those people, they hate them, And I think this was their way I get rid of them. Come up with some bullshit ass flu and mandate vaccines, and if you got all three or four and something happens in the first couple of years to you, that that's on you. I just like, there's a part of me that really feels like they just want the dumb people out of this world.

And now I'm starting to learn that a lot of Truthers actually feel the same way. So if that's the way consciousness is leaning, then that's unfortunately, that's that's what's going to happen, and no one's gonna be able to stop that. It's kind of a cleansing of our earth to begin with, because if we're in a consciousness state of mind of like a like a new age or something, no one can stop anything from doing anything spiritually or naturally.

It's just everything shifting. I know, you feel something. I know everybody does. They feel something's either coming or it's already here. We're going to witness something. No, yep. And these people have always been about numbers that remember the first role on the Georgia guidestones. Let's keep the population of five hundred million in perpetual balance with nature, I think is how they worded it. And again, guys, you can't take that with a grain

I mean take it with a grain of salid. That's their goal. Okay, that's their plan. Well they get there, no um. But but they're you know, they're wise enough to put it up in public because then it's consent, so they they know how to play the game. Trust me. Did they want well, they knew one hundred percent weren't going to do

it. Would they want? If you can go back in time when they started the plandemic, even before EVENTUA one, and you could be at a fly on that wall, and they brought up like, how many people do you want jabbed? Right, we're gonna do this whole plandemic? How much

of the world not how many do we think? How many do you want jab they would probably say everyone, no, if not nine out of ten, sure, okay, they knew that maybe three out of ten, two out of ten would do it with some marketing and mandates, because mandates are unreal. But if you don't know that, then you're gonna fall for it. So they can do these things to get it to four or five out of ten um. But again, that's their goal, right, their goal

was eight or nine. They probably got two or three out of ten realistically, So they failed. They failed, and they will fail on the next one, and they will fail in the next one. They're gonna fail on their guidestones. All their goals are failing before their eyes. And truthers go, oh my god, it's scary times. No, it's not. This

is awesome times. We're showing we're they're trying to show secret cards under the table when we have a camera under the table and we're just showing everyone their cards every day, and everybody's kind of getting it now, like, oh yeah, that kind of makes sense. Even truthers that are not even truthers but personalities you call them, that are just waking up now like a Jim Brewer. Look at you know, all these people coming out of nowhere.

It's like whoa Rob Schneider, People, comedians, actors, actresses, musicians, people are speaking out. Look at Mark Wahber talking about trafficking recently in the dark side of Hollywood. Little by little, it's all gonna in my opinion, it's all gonna be out on the table. All the dirty laundry will be held to dry. I'm guessing in the next year. That's just me um and that's a complete guest, but it's a it's an educated guess in my mind. But in the next year, everything's gonna be I'm talking

about everything. I'm talking about Michael Obama's cock to Joe Biden's mask that he wears everything. I think everything is gonna be out there to see how the world reacts and what takes place in the future, what they want to know. What think about it? Man, Operation disclosed your calling it. Hit the button and just watch. It's the same. They don't care. They're in their underground bunker or they're outer land bunker. Who knows where they are,

but they don't care. It's the same process as COVID. Hit the button. Wait, they're gonna mask. No one's gonna wear a mask, fucking say it, Just say it. Who cares you have to wear a mask? Like so, they they're just gonna hit these buttons and see what happens. And I think it's gonna They're gonna hit the button soon, a full disclosure everything, and it might be brought in with the fake alien invasion. Who knows. If it works, maybe they continue the bullshit. But

if it doesn't work, which I don't think it will. I don't think these holograms in the sky and all this shit. They got the technology they have, which looks pretty cool, I don't think it's gonna work. I think too many people know about the hologram technology now, and the more we talk about it, the more nobody's gonna be scared of these bullshit aliens in the sky. So it's gonna fail. It's gonna collapse on itself. And at that point, I think they have no other They have no other options

but Operation Disclosure. Tell everybody everything, and we'll have a new world at that point, hopefully not a new world order but just world Okay, But thanks man, we can go forever. This is my personality. Brother, No, thank you so much for your time. We'll be looking out for Old World. Order your next project. Shoot me a link when you get the previews. Well maybe you can just go back and update your description in a month from now or something as Yeah, whatever you want. But for

the listeners, it'll be OWOFILM dot com. So think of nWo, but ow so OWOFILM dot com. And actually the website's up and running. I just I got nothing hooked up yet, so and I got my cast list is still tentative. I got three confirmations. I'm waiting to hear back from John Levi. Again. I'm just trying to get the best of the best on this topic because I'm not so as a director, I go, wait a minute, I'm interested in this. I know a lot of information on

this, but these guys, these guys are something else. These guys are soldiers of this information. Man. So it's gonna be a very nice documentary for me to shoot because I'm still learning along the way. And as I'm learning this, it is mind blowing how obvious the timeline of lies is. Holy shit. You'd have to be you'd have to have a brain like ours today in second grade to really realize what's going on. As you're being taught it. You're never going to do that as a second grader. That's why

you accept the globe, just like Santa Claus and tooth Fairy. When you're little, you just accept whatever you're told up until about seven or eight. It's usually when it stops. But dude, I'm telling you, man, this this old world order, this project, it's going to blow the roof off of Rockefeller history books hopefully forever. And I mean that because you can just open a history book right now, present day and murder it. Dude, Like go through every chapter and be like, none of this happened.

There was no evidence of it at all. And I'll go as far as saying even George Washington and all that. I mean, like, for me, if history is bullshit, so is all that. Man. You were fed a story of presidents and how it worked. And you know, who knows when the real first president was is my opinion could have been eighteen fifty. What's the real first president? But they made him the seventy fifth. You know. Just the point. Everything is fabricated in a story to lead

us to where we are now. The truth and now it's all going to come out, man, So hopefully when you guys check Old World Order out, you'll know what I'm talking about. It's gonna be level for this topic, and I'm gonna do my best and my hardest. It will be on Fundraiser. I'm not using go fund me anymore. I heard too many things from the audience, Like I got a lot of comments like, hey man, here's twenty bucks. Here's our donation, we love you for my last

film. But there'd be a big paragraph like fuck go fund me blah blah blah bla blah blah blah, but here's our twenty bucks. I'm like, WHOA, I didn't. I didn't know this, so I won't use them ever again. I didn't know that anyone hated them, So okay, I'm using a company called Fundraiser. So I'll be getting that going in the next few weeks, and then i'll be announcing with a teaser trailer. It'll be on my YouTube and rocks fan and website the teaser trailer in a few weeks.

Of who's in it, Um, I kind of already threw some names out there, but um, I'm trying to get a couple more pinned down and in concrete so I can because then I have to budget. You know, I gotta and this one's gonna sucks. I gotta travel out of the country, and that's fucking expensive, even for some reason, like hotels, everything, just a rental car. Everything adds up to like where it's like

you want to cry and you don't even want to start the project. Um, but then you're just like, hey, man, hit the launch button. I think I'm probably gonna be putting for this film. Last film I asked for twenty K. This film, I'm probably only gonna do like fifteen, even though there's more traveling. I just feel like I can't. I can't keep going up. And I know you should in business, and you should in terms of like how am I supposed to hire sound guys or help,

you know, for anything? Unless unless I increase the budget. I just won't. Man, I'm gonna keep it as low as possible as always, and like always, I'll pay out a pocket for every project I do. This is just a kick starter in my opinion, where it's like, hey, if I put it up for fifteen, at least I can get the first five flights and hotels booked so I can start my fucking project once I start my project, then I'm good to go. I don't need more

help. I just need help getting off the ground start. Yeah, giving it exactly. It's like I don't have much to go anywhere right now, dude, So like if I get a little help in the beginning, oh don't worry. And just to end with this so people understand every funners I've ever had. You get a free copy of the film if you donate, so I don't think you're donating, And then you got to spend five bucks

on renting the film. If you donate anything to me to get this project started, you get a copy of the film email to you in high def digitally the day it was released to the public. Like I do that every year. You think you're gonna donate and get nothing. I'm not a normal person. Even if you go on my website, where's it? How do I donate? No, you don't, You don't, really you don't. It's not really an option per se. It's pick a film. Most of

my films are two dollars. That's your donation. That's it. Let's get one film. You donate two bucks to me. You might look at it as I rented a film or something. Sure, but no, you're just donating to me, man, Because when I first started my website it was PayPal donate only. It was like pick twenty fifty or a hundred. That was my options for the public. I'm like, I don't want to force someone to donate twenty fifty or one hundred, stupid? What do they get

from that? What do they actually get besides gratification of course. And I couldn't settle, man, I couldn't. I'm not talking about anyone that does it that way. I'm so sorry if that's how people do it. But I'm like, no, if you want to give me, I don't care if it's two bucks, five bucks, I don't care what it is. You're getting something in return for that because you did not have to do that. No one. I never told you or asked you. It's just an

option. So when you go to my website, you'll see all my films, and again, most of them are two dollars for any topic, any rabbit hole you want to look at. I got something usually on at five g chemtrail, you know, children trafficking, that's hunger games, George Floyd, you name it, obviously, Earth Fluvid nineteen was COVID nineteen. I have three plandemic series that made the three trilogy called the Plandemics, and then

I have A Shot in the Dark. I have all three. The first one, rfk Jr. Was all about when I first came out in twenty sixteen. I haven't heard from him since, but he was He was thrown on all over his Instagram, which I was cool with. I'm not a fan of any politician, but it was nice to know that someone in politics shared my fucking documentary, man, because it was like a very important one. This is way before COVID. It was called a Shot in the Dark.

It was a vaccines people. Millions and millions and millions of people saw that. Actually, I'm sorry. Twenty eighteen, I'm sorry, man, and millions of people saw that, and it was taken off actually the Children's Memorial Hospital, the famous one, Yeah yeahs who took it, took it

off YouTube and gaming and took down my channel too. I didn't not want that information out, and that was one of the first films that I got many many countless emails, paragraphs, usually mothers, but people saying that they saw that and they decided not to vaccinate their child because of my film and that that brought tears my eyes then and I always will. That's life changing. Say I didn't yea, literally, this is why. This is why

I did it, so you can show your family. I had people emailed me dude that said they showed it to their significant other right before the birthing. Wow, And it swayed them. Swayed them. All the years of back and forth of no, we're vaccinating our child, it swayed them. A thirty minute of film, So I'm sorry. I think it was like forty minutes swayed them. They're like, Nope, nope, not doing it.

And you know, that's why I try to do is I try to make films in a very short time frame because it's a lot of information. But I do it in a way where you go, wait a minute, how was that forty minutes? That felt like ten and forty minutes is already short enough for something of that information. But you get so much information and it goes so fast that you have to watch it again. Man. But by the second time you watch anything I make, you should be able to

absorb it by then. And if anyone in your audience has any questions, just shoot me an email truth at Hilbert Productions dot com. And if you want to be on, if you have a podcast you want me on your podcast, shoot me an email as well. I'll come on and talk. But Greg manno's great man. We we tried to do this a few times and I'm glad we got together this time. Man. Yeah, for sure. I appreciate your time. You've been very generous. And to all the

people listening that say, hey, how can I wake someone up? Hey, have a party when you when you have your your friends and family come out over, set up the old screen share and grab one of these movies. Uh, you know, donate a few bucks to Sean and at the same time you can spread truth and this is how we win the battle. And to Cole or Cale, excuse me you sent that question. Thank you so much for that. And once again, Sean, thank you so much.

Brother. God bless you for everything you do. And until next time, everyone, God bless y'all, keep your head on a swibble and we will see it.