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down. I'll have that in the show description as well. We talked a bit offline before we even hit the record button. Nicholas is going to blow your mind tonight. We have a lot to talk about. So without any further ADO, let's bring them aboard. Good evening, Nicolas. How are you doing, my friend. I'm doing fine. It's great to meet you. It's great to finally, you know, talk to you. I've listened to your voice for you know, over the two months, and it's just
it's amazing to talk to you now. And it's just, man, the conversation we had before we started recording, it just was a good conversation. Nonetheless to say, yeah, it's great, and I'll be up all night now going down these rabbitals. But that's that's what motivates me and excites me, and I think that the listeners are really going to be blown away as well. So why don't you go ahead before we jump into those rabbit holes. Please go ahead and introduce yourself to the audience. All right. My
name is Nicholas Quinn. I grew up in the Denver, Colorado metro area of Colorado. Um you know. I grew up normal, had a normal life, had a couple of experiences with God saved me at four years old. God saved me at sixteen years old when I was hit by a car. I was attacked by a dog when I was four. I should be dead twice. I had several stitches when I was four and the dog, it was abused dog. But anyhow, I was riding my bike across the street on Potomac and Sixth Avenue and I got hit by a VW bug my
fault. I got a ticket, but again I woke up crying in the hospital. Didn't know why I was crying, and an officer was there to write me a ticket, and he said he asked me as soon as I he asked, why are you crying? And I stopped right away. I had no idea why I was crying, So neither here nor there. But I grew up in Denver, like I said, semi normal life. Graduated from Aurora Central in two thousand. Then I moved to Colorado Springs and during
you know, nine to eleven, I was in Colorado Springs. My aunt was a jokester. She would joke around all the time. Me and my cousin were out partying. The night before, we were sleeping. She comes and knock wakes us up and says, hey, America's under attack. We're being attacked in New York. I'm like, yeah, whatever, So she wakes us up. We go and we watched the second so called plane hit
the building and we watched that for hours. And then, like I said, I was in Colorado Springs that has no rad Peterson Air Force Base, Fort Falcon, and the Air Force Academy all within thirty minutes where I was living. And it was the most peaceful day I'd ever seen in my life. No base was mobilizing, I didn't see any planes anywhere, didn't see anything happening on any of the bases. And again, it was just the most calmest peaceful day I've ever had. After you know, nine to eleven
happened, So then that goes along. Around two thousand and five, Loose Change came into my life and it kind of woke me up a little bit. But Loose Changes that you know, I don't know if you've heard that uh movie yet either, but it kind of woke me up, but it also left you know, it left a couple of holes in the in the story. But I mean it woke me up to Larry Silverstein being you know, evil and our country did it are two ourselves? And then um,
life goes on, right I got involved with ze Geist. That one kind of like you know, took me off on another tangent rabbit hole or whatever. And then again, uh, life goes on, and something happened and I had a little bad you know, issues with my life. So I was a little depressed around twenty seventeen. Twenty seventeen is when flat earth really hit me. It was Richie from Boston. I don't know if you know
that. Yeah, okay, So Richie from Boston was talking about ken trails and this, that and the other and that, and I started watching him like religiously, chem trails, this, chemtrails out and I started noticing all these chem trails. Well it was July no, no, sorry, June ninth. There was a full moon twenty seventeen. I was driving home and I was going down Dayton or eleventh to Dayton, and it was the moon.
It was literally right above the tree line and it was so huge and I didn't know why I never noticed it before, but it was so huge, like it was like trying to grab me. It felt like, you know. So I was just like it blew my mind. I had no idea. I was like, wow, that's kind of weird. You know. It just seems like it's right there, two hundred and thirty seven thousand
miles away, but it's right there, you know. So a friend of mine comes home from Hawaii and he talks about his cousin, you know, in the Mandela effect and how JFK switched from a four person car to a six person car. That tripped me out. I started going down that rabbit hole. And then one day I was listening to Richie from Boston and he said the Earth was flat and I was like, what, like, no, can't be flat, man. We landed on the moon, right.
So that took me off into Oddan and then David weiss or not David weiss Um, who else odd Eric Dubay, And it took me off onto I don't know if you've ever heard of Nathan Roberts. Yes, he was okay, flatter doctor had his book in my hand right now, the Doction of the Shape of the Earth. Okay, good? He he and I became really really close. Really. If it wasn't for him, I would have given up on the Bible. He did a show specifically calling me saying,
hey, don't give up on the Bible. You're you're on the right track. And if it wasn't for him, the Hebrew Roots movement would have pushed me again away from the Bible. So it was twenty It was September twenty seventeen when it hit me a flat Earth, and I couldn't consume anything. I had no idea what to do. I was just like I got rid of Netflix, I got rid of Hulu, I got rid of all that and just focused on Odd and Odd had a twenty four hour show or was
showing all this flat earth stuff. So I was consuming that twenty four seven. I couldn't get enough. Yeah, that's I think, that's you know. I was the same way for two weeks. I consumed it from the time I woke up until the time I went to sleep. And there were times when those kind of never even happened. I would wake up and I would be up for twenty four to thirty six hours, just because you know, I know, I've explained it several times, but I think I finally
realized if they would lie about this, then everything is a lie. And and I guess when if you would have said, you know, before we started recording. I don't want to say it yet because I wanted to come naturally into the conversation because it kind of blew my mind. And it's funny because I had come across a few things in the last couple of days that kind of go along that line. But two years ago or no, I've been more than that, say five years ago. If you would have mentioned
that to me, I would probably rolled my eyes and said sure. But after flat Earth, I always, UM, take everything all right, I'm going to go research at first, and actually a Nathan's book. In the very first chapter he talks about uh, there's a Bible verse that talks about specifically, UM, you know, talking about people who don't you know, research things. You know, Man, I wish yes, thank you. He who answers in a book in a matter before he hears it, it's
a folly shame unto him. You're absolutely right. That's one of my favorite verses. Yep. And I when when I read, I just got this in them. That is so weird how this happens. I had Steve Steve on the podcast the other night which drops tonight as we're recording. Um, he's the one who mentioned this book to me, and it came in the mail today and I, you know, I told you about tech problems. I'm in the office working on things, but I am just cruising through this
book. Is Nathan still in Georgia? I believe so? Um, I know he seeing this is really weird when I want to continue on my story. Uh, he kind of he kind of pushed himself away from the community and he's been silent for a quite some time now. But yeah, Brial, I think he's still in Georgia. Yeah, because he he actually met Brian Mullen and I asked him straight up, is Brian Mullen the real deal? And he was like, yeah, Brian Mullen is the absolute real deal.
When you say districts himself from the community, are you talking about the flat earth community? The flat Earth community. He's he's been quiet on all social media's. I hope he's okay. Um, he he went down a different road and he was starting to go down like the Blacks Law, and he didn't want to start painting. He just wanted to be a non citizen. But he wanted to be a citizen. And if that makes sense,
yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. Okay, So he doesn't want to have a driver's license, he doesn't want to pay car insurance because he just we don't. We don't have to. We don't have to pay taxes. It's illegal for us to pay taxes. But again, we're comfortable and we don't want to fight that, you know what I mean? Right, That's interesting because I mean he was so passionate about it, he wrote a book, I mean to teach his own I'm not judging um, but
you know, maybe he found another passion. His book has been I'm you know, already a third of the way through. It's a tremendous book. And obviously he's he's super smart on the Bible. Oh yeah, he's super smart. He's got another book and I bought it too. It's what is it called? It's it's about the law. You look it up on Amazon. He has another book, and I forget. I know I have it here somewhere. I've got so many like literature of I've got thirteen flat Earth
books. You know, I'm the same way, and I buy the books. I don't my wife does the kindle thing. But I purchased the books because I know it's only a matter of time before there's a you know, like a digital book burning. Right, So, okay, flat Earth hits
me, I consume it. By January twenty eighteen, I'm a full on flat Earth and I'm trying to talk to everybody and anybody that wanted the time I get laughs, I get oh, you're an idiot, You're you're smoking too many drugs, and then it comes like, yeah, I don't think so anyway. So twenty eighteen goes by, twenty nineteen comes around and Dean Ogel, I've heard you mentioned him. I'm actually baptized by him. I've met him. Great dude. I don't really agree with him on his political
views. I truly believe Trump is is one of them, let's put it that way. And he believes Trump is you know, for us, and that's whatever. So twenty nineteen comes around and my co host that I do the show with I met him Skyfall twenty ninetine and um opa like Alabama, Auburn. We're in Auburn, Alabama. We have a three day conference there. This is where I get closer to Nathan Roberts. We talk, we get closer. At the end of that, um I get baptized by him.
H Dean oldl And again he's a great guy, great pastor. But I don't believe in the pastoral role. I just I don't believe that we need to listen to one guy at a pulpit. I believe we should have like a round table and talk, you know, amongst ourselves about the Bible, and come to an understanding that we're not going to know everything and nobody should be above us, you know, standing on a pulpit saying I'm ordained. I went to school. Was Jesus your pastor or your teacher? Was
he your professor? You know? Um? So again, okay, So we go there a great conference. I literally sit next to Dean Odo the entire conference, and so he does this thing. I met a guy was Brian Reid. He was a military man. He worked at West Point for years. He didn't really say he was a flat earther, but the way he talked about it, he kind of gave me the answers I wanted to hear. But he was straight up military guy. I don't know if he
could be Dean's maybe handler, I don't know. He's wearing a shirt saying Dean Odle for governor. He's sitting behind Trump and one of the pictures I'll have to send that to you too. And again I'm not badmouthing anybody. I just I don't know who we should honestly trust here in these crazy days that we're in. So you know, I buy all these flat earth books.
I start consuming, this other stuff comes into my life. Like there's a book called the Vaccine Watchman. I don't know if you've ever heard of that, but this was in the eighteen hundreds in Europe and many many men were getting this experimental vaccine and had to get their arm amputated because of all this you know, vaccine, whatever it is, And this was in the eighteen hundreds. I'll send you the I'll send you the PDF. It's a
like a twenty eight page document. Yeah, it's interesting. This is another one of those books that were written in the eighteen eighties, very much like the one mister Carpenter wrote about flat Earth, right right exactly. WD Stokes. Yes, yes, So again all this stuff comes into my life now. But one thing that I never really believed in the Bible. So I couldn't really understand the Bible because the very first page of the Bible says a dome, water above, water below. Well, NASA says, they landed
on the moon, So where's the water? You know, where's this firmament they talk about? You know? So I literally ran from the Bible my entire until flat Earth. And then again if it wasn't for Nathan Roberts, I would still probably be running from the Bible because again I don't know who to trust, because Eric Dubay does such a great job for Flat Earth.
But then he has a video saying Jesus Christ never existed, you know, an hour long video, and it's just like, man, bro, you were so on point, but now you don't believe in Jesus, you don't believe in the Bible. Okay, fine, that's fine. I'm gonna stick with my side and I'm going to continue on my biblical journey. Yeah. And he also did a video questioning the firmament as well, right right,
I heard you talk about how he questioned the firmament and everything. But anyway, so I'm going down this rabbit holes of here here, here, here, and I meet a girl. Her name is Tammy from North Carolina, and she came across some knowledge about how the name gives. In the old people used to spit on the seeds of fruit and vegetables and whatever, and they would let it, you know, root up and then planet and then water it normally. And this is another reason why I believe there's a good
creator. Apparently, if you were to grow these vegetables with your DNA, you know, just to you know, root up heart and water it. Normally that fruit or vegetable grow to what your body needs. So I've got three confirmations, three women that have done this. Tammy says it was the best beat salad she'd ever had in her life. Another lady I work with said is the best fruit she's ever had. Another lady she's quitting, but she doesn't like tomatoes, but she spit on the seed of these tomatoes grew
them, and she said that the tomatoes were just absolutely delicious. And it just, you know, warms my heart that we should be being taught this because if that is the truth, then there is a great creator, a great God, and he's told us how to grow vegetables to what we need
in our body would be perfectly fine. So it's just amazing. If I end mute myself while you were talking, I went to Google, and for these type of experiments I always use, I intentionally use Google, and I put that in the search engine and two of the very first three hits were from fact checkers who said that was false. So that's all the information you
need to know that it's true. Right, And again, I've got three confirmations of people I know personally know that these vegetables and fruits it melted in their mouth like ice cream. They said it just tasted so amazing. It reminds me of that scene of Avatar when he goes and bites the fruit, you know, when he's in his Avatar state, and he's just like m's water his mouth is watering because it just tastes so good, you know what I mean. Oh, that's right, that's so interesting. That is another
rabbit hole. I'm gonna have to go down by the way going before I forget, before we get too far ahead. I think. The other book that Nathan wrote was entitled if this is correct, Treaties of Artificial Persons Versus Private living, breathing Souls. Yes, yes, that's him, and another again another great compilation of his studies. The dude is just he's a couple
of years younger than me. I'm forty one. And like I said, him and I became very very close, and he would tell me stuff this and personal stuff, and I'll never tell anybody, but just the way like he went about this restarch. He was so good. He was so good. At it, and when he came to the Bible, it just it blew my mind. And on how he and God, basically God, you know, put it on his heart and he said he was because I emailed
him. I was like, sorry, I know the earth is flat, but the Bible's not for me because the Hebrew roots were saying some stuff, you know, all I'm not gonna say it here, but some of us are not meant for heaven. And I was just like, wow, they're reading from the Bible. I never read the Bible, so what if they're right? And again, Nathan spent like forty five minutes doing an episode on his Flatter Doctrine channel just for me. And it was just after meeting him,
I knew he was the real deal as well. I'll have to reach out to him and see if we can bring him on. I'd love to hear from it. Because this book, again, I'm only you know, maybe twenty five percent of the way through. It's tremendous. And see, that's another reason why I believe in divine being or God. I bought Nathan's book, and then a friend of mine I met through Flat Earth wanted his book too, So I just went and bought it for him, and it
was only twenty bucks. Well, the very next day I found twenty bucks on the ground. I was like, all right, cool, right, and I just put it in my pod and went about my day, you know. So it was divine chance that I just found twenty bucks. It was great, it was amazing, and it was actually an Amazon Kindall bestseller. He's got well over three hundred reviews on his book. It did well. Yeah, it's very well put together, very very well put together.
I like the kid. He's amazing. If you ever get him on he's just he's a very humble person and he's just like I said, he met Brian Mullen and he's just Brian Mullen's the real deal. And apparently, you know, Brian Mullen went and hit or he went and shut up because somebody probably scared him. I don't know. I don't know. Interesting, Well, we'll do again. I'll definitely try to reach out to him and see if we can. That would be a great chat. Um. Yeah,
Richie from Boston, that's another one. I I don't know what if you know, I'm imagining he like many others, are off of YouTube. But is he still doing this thing. So he's um jail Break over Lander is his new YouTube channel, and now he's just driving around America doing some things. I've heard him do a couple of podcasts here and there, but he again, he doesn't dabble in conspiracy theories anymore. And it just it breaks my heart because he was very prominent on getting me to where I am.
So what is he doing though? He just sucks, Like I said, I don't know. If you watch his show, he's just he's like four wheeling and driving his stuff. Yeah, yeah, he's doing like, you know, videos about driving and tell you right, Colorado some summits. He doesn't Colorado. He likes to go to Moab a lot. He drives. I don't know what he drives. It might be a fore runner, I don't know. But he doesn't dabble in conspiracies that much anymore. Yeah,
it doesn't look like that. That's interesting. I mean, we all evolve in follow rowan passion. He did a lot for the truth community, so you know, more power tone. Okay, and then again, oh let me tell you this. Okay, Before I went to Super Bowl forty eight, I went to Super Bowl fifty all chances. I don't know how that happened. Super Bowl forty eight was the Bronchos and Stea Hawks. They fly the Tomahawk and the Chinook's over and you get your you get all pumped up,
you get all riled up, you just get into emotions. Yep. The moment, and I mean the literal moment of the safety on Super Bowl forty eight, I felt an energy drained from me. I just felt it just drained from my body. I knew at that moment when I say we again, I was into sports. And that's the other thing. Was the first show that got me on you guys was a guy that you had from Wyoming, and he said he was a big Broncho fan, but once he got into Flat Earth, all the sports love just left him. Same here,
it just left me. So at that moment the safety, when Peyton Manning did it, I knew at that moment we were the Broncos were going to lose that Super Bowl. So it just and I didn't really understand it, but now I understand that that evilness of these sports and and entertainment just drained you of your energy. And I just felt so low. I felt so like down on myself, even though I was just somebody in the audience, you know. Yeah, and uh, if the Eagles obviously lost that
one, I'm sorry. Go ahead back in the day, like twenty years ago, if the Eagles lost, I'd be from Sunday night until Wednesday. I would just be miserable, like I was actually part of the team. And looking background it, I just laughed now. And it's funny too, because when you when we were into sports, you'd always say, oh, we won, like I was a part of the team, Like I made a touchdown. Like when they lost, they lost, they didn't. That
wasn't me, you know. So and then okay, two day, two years later, right before I start getting into my conspiracy journey, I go to Super Bowl fifty. Obviously the Broncos win that one, and again I was like, at the happiest moment, I'm on Facebook, I'm getting so many likes while you're there. Oh my god, that's great, you know, and it's just like, yeah, I know. And then obviously again that's a Satanic ritual. And in its own what was that the one with
Peyton Manning where you finally get where he won it for Denver? Yeah, and it's the only super Bowl that has the numbers. Every other super Bowl has the Roman numerals. Super Bowl fifty has five and zero. And it was a golden ticket. That's right, go go figure like Willy Wonka. So and uh again, socially, that was the best, the greatest time in my life, socially right. So I come home whatever, We went
to Super Bowl hippity dippity, and I start getting into my journey. Around twenty eighteen is when I, you know, really got into flat Earth. And flat Earth was taking me off of here, taking me off of here, and it showed me sports. Sports are rigged. Every single sports is rigged. The basketball it's lined with magnets and the rim is magnetic. I'll
send you this video too. What's really really gets me is the fact that Michael Jordan's right, Michael Jordan's supposed to be the best basketball player to ever play the game. Well, he's six six with six championships, right. He hit the most famous shot on his sixth game of his six championship with six point six seconds left on the clock. And there's an actual picture of that. And if I remember correctly, Kobe Bryant got his Eddie one points
on his six hundred and sixty six game. Correct, that is correct, and he was the black mom but the snake, right, that's right. I'll send I'll send you this video and this guy proves it. There's magnets in the ball. That's why I don't believe when the Nuggets won. I don't really honestly believe they won, you know, without help. Oh, that's right, they won this year, right right? And that Um, this video is going to blow your mind too. Again. Um, you
can actually control a golf ball like a remote control car. Yeah, I see Tiger puts that seemed questionable to me, right exactly Again, it's gonna blow your mind. So and then let me get off onto this one. Um. Oh just recently, I'll send you this video too. I visited Jekyll Island back in March. Really, and I've got I've got a flat earth video from Jekyll Island. And it's a great place to go, don't get me wrong. It's very beautiful, very richie up at eat type,
you know. But yes, I'm gonna send you that video. It's my camera, my P one thousand. I zoom in on a boat that we can't see, but my camera can see it. Incredible. Okay, so what this thing is just gonna blow everybody's mind hopefully, so I get into flat Earth and I can't, like, like you said, I can't absorb enough. I'm getting all this flat earth from Eric Dubay, Odd Richie from Boston cam trails, this, that, and then somehow well Aware one comes
into my life well Aware one number one dot com. And this is where it blows my mind. Because he's a guy who said he worked for like the FBI or the CIA doing ear biometrics, and ear biometrics is like fingerprints for the ears. And he put together compilation video of where he truly believes that Walt Disney and Hitler are the same person. And when you look it up and you look at their faces, even Ava Braun and Lillian Disney look
like they're similar for people, that blows my mind. There's what a ten year difference between Walt Disney and Nadolf Hitler. I think it was born in eighty nine and Walt Disney was born right around nineteen hundred or so, right right, so they could have pulled this off. And again I can't prove none of this, but the way this guy puts together this compilation video. Even Roy Disney looks like one of Hitler's top officers, Joseph Gobella. I
think he looks exactly like Roy Disney. And he goes off on this tangent where Theodore Roosevelt he's doing all this, He's controlling all of this, where his son Kermit Roosevelt, right, Kermit Roosevelt as apparently Father Coglin, Walt, Disney, and Hitler, they're all the same in one. And this is where it really gets really crazy that he believes that President Taft is Roosevelt's
brother and President Taft also was JP Morgan. And once you look at this guy's website, it's just again I'm not saying that this is true or anything, but once you look at it, you're just like, Wow, this guy might be onto something. Well. Something that always raised my eyebrows is the Disney family comes from Chicago, and there's something about Chicago. Many of the episodes I've done on the Fact Hunner over the years, these people come
from many of the thirteen bloodlines have roots in Chicago. Now Roy was the older brother of Walk correct I believe, So I'll have to do some more digging, but you could be right, and I know they were all out of Chicago. And yeah, the Disneys. That is really interesting because obviously there's a tie in with Warner von Braun. And we were talking about I think before. Didn't you mentioned Warner von Braun before we were before we got
started. Yeah, yeah, because it makes sense that if Warner von Braun was a Nazi scientist, he already knew Hitler, he already knew Disney, if they were the same person, you know what I mean. And there's a lot of you know, people out there who say, you know, some people say, you know, the Nazis didn't lose the war, they
just moved to America. Some people say there was a which I kind of lend credence to World War One ended with some people who kind of helped themselves, kind of moved into politics and signed the Balfour Agreement and made themselves in charge. Because all the people who were still fighting during World War One, and I'm talking about the Germans, they thought they could win and wanted to
fight, but there was kind of a hostile takeover at the top. They signed the Balfour Agreement and that is known as the stab in the back theory, and I think something similar happened where the people, the powers that be said hey, listen, we're going to end this. You come to America, you know, we'll continue this way, and I think they actually created The more I look into this and study it, I think Operation paper Clip was just a cover story for something deeper, kind of like what we're talking
about. Now, Does that make sense? Yeah, no, you're totally on the same spot. And that's why once I that the first episode I listened to you. I got a friend of mine, he does pest control and the place I work. He sent me a podcast from Spotify and it was about this elite hacker who was a moral like he had morals, like he was a good hacker, like yeah, like a white hat, but he has like this program where he took a picture of this guy's the host
he was at. He just took a picture straight off of on his phone, never been on the internet, and he was able to find his social media, his Facebook, all that off of one picture that was never on the internet. And it just blew my mind that this hacker is out there and they could just he could do whatever. He could have all of your passwords, if it's not like taking care of you don't have like a tech savvy guy, you know, with you know, firewalls or whatever like mccafee.
That was another conspiracy, right, yeah. So and that's when it, you know, I was like, I'm gonna type in you know, flat Earth, let me see what comes up. Sure enough, your podcast came up, the flatter five else and I just picked on a random one and it was the guy from Wyoming, and it drew me in when he said he was a Broncho fan and he doesn't like sports anymore. And I was like, yes, I love you already. I don't know you,
but we're on the same page. And then I picked another random one when I forget which one it was, but then you mentioned you had spent fourteen hours of your life watching Europa, and I was hooked. I was like, I need to talk to this guy. I need to get on his podcast. I need to, you know, unload on him what I've got to, what I've came across. And it's just been amazing listening to your podcast, my friend. That's awesome, man. Yeah, it's been an
honor. We've had so many a wide range of people and ages, and backgrounds, and it's I've learned something from everybody. So it's really been great how this podcast has evolved. By the way, before I forget for people who made doubt that sports are quote unquote rigged. You can look it's it's not a secret. But mL NFL they're they're classified as entertainment right right,
not sports. And that's that was a great I'm not a huge fan of the Ringer, but they actually wrote a story five or six years ago that talked about the way they have gotten around some of these big issues, whether it be narcotics um, federal medical regulations um, and the guy from the Bills. Uh that that number three that that's a whole nother podcast in itself the right. And I'm not just picking on like, uh, Michael Jordan, I'm not just picking on him. Look at Elway. I looked up
to Elway my entire life. Apparently the seven is the God's number, yep. And we'd always watched Elway on a white Horse on Our Savior Sunday, you know. So don't don't get me wrong, always one percent part of them as well, So it's all the way around. Yeah, you get that stadium, I don't know if it still does. Used to have a white horse like standing up putting stupid legs right in front of the stadium. Right, there's actually three horses in Colorado of the Apocalypse. They've got Blucifer,
They've got another great horse. I'll have to look it up. I don't know where that one's at. And then they have the Bronco one on it, and at Denver mile High. There might be one at the Colorado Springs Airport. Really, I want to say I lived on Drennin, which was right down the right. We could get to the airport in five minutes, and I want to say I remember it. I'd have to go back and look, but I remember something like as you're coming down the road that
there was a horse there. That's another thing I wanted to mention. Illuminati was formed in seventeen seventy six, right, so Colorado was formed in eighteen seventy six. Each state of the United States has its own state steel. Right state coin. Out of all those states, how many you think has the all seeing eye on it? Said that one more time. Each state has its own state seal, like a state bird or a state flower.
They have their own state coin right, right. So out of all fifty states, how many you think has the All Seeing Eye on their state coin? Just Colorado? Probably right, just Colorado. That is correct. That's interesting. That's another that's another video. Odd flew me on because he was from Denver and I didn't really meet him. I met him in public one time and I said, hey, thanks for your stuff. He's like, yeah, right on, And that was pretty much meaning Odd that was it?
Is it? Colorado? Is? Are they the thirty third state? Am? I? You know what, I'll have to look that up, but I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't, because you know, Delaware here were the first state. And for some reason, that's sticking in my head because when the do you remember the King's Soup shooting? Yes, yes, I was still in I to this day. I think that was a hoax. Oh, it absolutely was. I did a pod and I was actual lea some I was a guest on someone's podcast. The podcast kind of evolved
and I don't know if they ended up. I guess it was too hot for them to handle. But the King's Soups where it happened. It was store number thirty three and it happened on March twenty second, which is Skull and Bones Day three to two. And yeah, it was store number thirty three and the guy, if you remember, I don't know if it's still
up. There was a video of a guy walking through the store and he was showing kind of the bodies and everything, like, wasn't freaking out, wasn't calling just kind of walking through like doodly dood just another day at the grocery store. And it was just none of it made any sense. But the big eye opener was March twentieth, two days before the headline on the dead Ver post was the new gun control law was d o way. It
was dead on arrival. Two days later that happened, and on March twenty third the bill got signed, right and then taking it back to April twentieth, I was ditching that day class and that's when Columbine happened. I got a scar on my arm because I was jumping on a trampoline and I fell off. But we were ditching that day and we tried to go back to school and they wouldn't even let us back into school. Oh I bet I'm sure it was locked down. Yeah, all schools in Colorado were locked down
at that time. We were a good distance from you know, Littleton. But anyway, Yeah, so I was working when the theater shooting happened. I gotten a call from my cousin from New York, and I had gotten a call from a friend because we would during that time, we would be a friend of mine. We would go out to every movie we possibly could on the weekends. And I had no idea that that happened until I got to work and everybody's hitting me up on my Facebook and I'm just like,
Wow, what really went down? I was literally four or five miles from that theater shooting. Oh wow, that was twenty twelve, right, didn't that end? Sandy Hook happened close to the same time, so that's even crazier. Yes, And what's funny is apparently Sandy Hook doesn't even have playground equipment. No, I was that blew my mind too. Yeah. I met Um many times, and my radio show led into his doctor Jim Fetzer. My show was ten twelve and his was twelve to two, and I
had him on a few times. If you go to my website in the fact under dot com, you'll see the interview I did with him. He just had, By the way, if anybody knows, he just had like triple bypass surgery a couple of weeks ago. He's like eighty three and he's still crushing the truth community. But he had, you know, one of the parents suited him. I won't get into it. This is not the right platform for it, but uh four hundred in judgment that's sitting at the
Supreme Court right now. So Sandy Hook happened December fourteenth, twenty twelve. And what was that called the Aurora shooting. Yeah, the Roora Theater shooting. And it was weird because if there's a scene in the Batman movie that basically has is it Sandy Hook and Aurora on the map or just Sandy Hook? I don't remember. I don't. I don't. I think it's just Sandy Hook. I'll have to watch that again. But yeah, no,
it definitely was Sandy Hook in there on that map. Yeah. So Aurora was July twentieth and Sandy Hook was December fourteenth, both in twenty twelve, and that was right around the same time the NDAA was passed. But the Smith Mount Agreement, which for people who don't know, it's called the Smith Mount Modernization Act, and that allows the United States government to perpetrate propaganda against
its own citizens. After World War Two, I'm gonna say in nineteen forty eight, the Smith Munt Act, which guy by the name of like Smith and another guy Month they put it up, said hey, we're not going to allow propaganda be put up against the United States by their own government like so many other countries like China, North Korea. But Obama slides in. And what people don't realize is every year around May they come up with the
budget for the National Defense the NDAA for that year. Well that's where they slide in all the extra little things because some of these are like fifteen hundred, two thousand pages, and they know the citizens aren't going to read it, so they slide these things in. Well, Jim Fesser was one of the people who caught the Smith Month Modernization Act in there, where the government
can propagate propaganda against its own citizens. So if you wonder why they've COVID all these mass shootings, it's because they're allowed to now right right, And even the last one that just happened in Connecticut. How the actress Melissa Joan Hart. She just happened to be at that one. She just happened to be at the one in Sandy Hook or near it, and it was sort of like third shooting. She was near, and I'm just like, come on, yeah, you gotta be kidding me. Yeah. And and that's
still, you know, coming back full serve. By the way, I did look it up while you were talking, and I remembered that was something about Colorado. A thirty third state is actually Oregon, but Denver or sorry, Colorado was the thirty eighth state. And thirty eight is the murder number in Jamatria. If you look at the Murder by Numbers movie poster, the E is the three, the B is eight. That there's your thirty eight. And the police had the murder by Number song as well, which lends
credence to that number thirty eight. And there's a lot of people out there who believe that is the nWo headquarters there at the Denver in the National Airport, which also has the horses. I think that's where Blucifer is, right, Yes, that's it. And so it's so creepy because he's got the reddest eyes and and when you're driving up to it. The new hotel that they have in front of it looks like a pair of wings. It's so
weird. It's the weirdest airport I've ever been to. Right when they built it, before they did all this, we are a friend of us. I'm young, I'm dumb. We would, you know, smoke some weed and we'd go and ride the trains and you could just do that. Now you can't even get past the first you know, ticket county. You can barely get past that without going through security or having a ticket. But there's this specific black window building. I think it's right when you walk bike.
So you've got three concourses. You've got Concourse A, B and C. There's a part in Concourse A where you can walk to the gates and there's just just building there. It's just it's it's out of place. It doesn't look like it belongs there, and it's just all the windows are tinted and I have you don't know what's in there. I don't know what's in there, but yeah, I would definitely agree they have something. They've got a time capsule there with a Freemason compass on it as well. Yep, that's
right. That's right. And a lot of the paintings and murals inside that inside the report itself is kind of weird. It is like, and nobody really ever questioned it. We just, oh, we gotta go to San Francisco, we gotta go to Florida, fifteen minutes late for our flight already, you know, so nobody really paid attention. And once we started paying attention, then then they started doing construction these last few years and they put up, you know, crazy signs like the leader of the Underworld or the
Reptilians are here. I forget what the sign said, but it was like conspiracy, like it was like mocking it. That's right. Yeah, that state Colorado has so many red flags about it. Even the governor I think his name is Polis Polis po l I, and you know, he comes from an interesting family. He's of course, he's part of the U Desionist clan, and he's openly gay. You know, he fits all the narratives
that they're pushing these days. And again his family interesting. I think they're they made their money in the like they were like a Hallmark, a greeting card company. So again, these aren't the everyday blue collar people. That they want you to believe they are right. And what's funny. When I was there living my last job there was working for a restaurant. I met Guy Fieri and he just he's a nice guy, very nice guy, but he just seemed a little like he's in the know. But he doesn't.
We don't know he's in the know. Right, there's one of the restaurants that's on like fourth and Broadway. Right across the street is the architectural company that built are Through the plans for d Ia and on top of their building is a pyramidal last pyramid. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Colorado has definitely got some satanic ties. It's very crazy. Design Innovations arch Incorporated. No,
that can't be right. That's in Knoxville, Tennessee. I don't think Google read me or I have to look into that because I'm not sure. Maybe I've come across the architect of Denver National before. Yeah, it's like, um, if you google Earth it go forth in Broadway. It's like in the art district. Oh, Curtis Fentress, I've come across the sky before. He's done Airport, he's done the Convention Center, and he also did the museum for the Marine Corps. I've come across this guy's name before.
He's the architect. Yeah. The recent rabbit hole I've been going down is America apparently is the old local world. And I don't know if you've ever heard this, but Arizona was actually Egypt. Now what's funny is when I quit my job in twenty twenty one September twenty twenty one, I went down to Arizona, New Mexico. I went all up the West coast up into Olympia Washington. I was gonna do like a video collage of all the
capitol buildings. So I get up to Olympia Washington around October before October of twenty twenty one, and they have a huge complex of the Roman Capitol building. It's just massive. It's bigger than Colorados. And Colorado has a big, massive area of Roman buildings right there. And it's really weird. So I drive down to Oregon, Oregon. Salem, Oregon. Their old building was torn down, but their new building has this weird golden statue at the
top, very creepy, very weird, and it's all gold. I'm just like, wow, that sucks. And they have like part of the old Roman style capitol building. But it's just like this new modern type, square city type building. It's really weird. So or is this Tacoma. I'm sorry, So Olympia, Washington is the capital of Washington and that right, so that's where that building was. I have a video. I'm gonna send that to you. And then I drove down through Portland and man Portland.
Look. Portland looks like a city. When it was built. It looked like it was a good city to be in. And it's heyday, like the sixties or the seventies and probably early eighties. Yeah, and the seventies it was called like the Rows City. It was like one of the you know, the premier cities in our country. Right. So I drive down through Oregon, I drive through I come through um Utah. So I'm driving on Utah going back to Colorado, and I drive through the Devil's Canyon.
Literally they're flat top mountains and those are trees. I'll even send you that video. I've got their trees. You can definitely tell that somebody cut them down or the angels, like the Book of Enoch talks about. So my rabbit hole is going down. America is Old World Egypt and Dabylon and whatever. There's a next to the Mississippi River and Mephis there's an old bass pro shop, but it's a pyramid. I don't know if you've ever heard of
that. Yeah, it was gonna it serves me correct, right Well, the designer of that one wanted to build three pyramids right there, right next to the Mississippi, just like they haven't Pisa. So this freemason has some books out. I'll send you a copy of that too. Apparently America was old Egypt and the Gulf of Mexico. It talks about it in the Bible. I forget what part, but a crescent moon type in the land, and that's what the Gulf of Mexico looks like. And apparently Mississippi River is
the Euphrates River. And again I can't prove none of this again, but there's a reason why we're in America now because of this end times and it's just so weird. All flat Earth just threw me into here, threw me into there, and I'm going down so many rabbit holes I don't know where to, you know, I'll go into here for a little bit. Like all I'm gonna take myself out of here for a second and I'm gonna go into another rabbit hole. Learned a little bit there, and it's just like
wow, all this stuff just blows my mind. Yeah, that's interesting. I've actually been basically close to the area there where the Tigris and phrates meat and there is something. It's definitely that that area is much different than the rest of Iraq and Kuwait, where much of it is just barren desert. It's very lush palm trees, a lot different than the rest of the country. That is interesting. I've never heard that before. I'll have to definitely
look into it. And again, you know, the Earth is six thousand years old, so who's to say man hasn't manipulated well, you know, we're talking about flat Earth, so it wouldn't be the first time that man manipulated maps, right, right, right right. It's just amazing. That's really interesting. So you said that you were pretty much full blown flat earth or did you say twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, Yeah, twenty January twenty
eighteen. I spent the last four months of twenty seventeen just indulging in flat earth YouTube. It was right there before they started, you know, censoring at all. And Nuary twenty eighteen, I was like, Yep, the Earth is flat. That's the other thing. When you're driving in Colorado, you can go north and south on I twenty five during a full moon, that full moon stays on you and nobody else, because that's how we all perceive it. We always look like the sun in the moon is looking at
us personally and nobody else, because that's how we all perceive it. And that is one another beautiful things because it's just you can go one hundred and twenty miles down from Fort Collins to you know, Pueblo. That's more than a hundred and twenty, but you can go all the way in that moon never stops looking at you, never stops looking at Jim, never stops looking at Susie. And it's just it warmed my heart. Flat earth just warmed
my heart. To the Bible and it's just beautiful, just beautiful. Yeah, there was some the sunsets and the moon the nights in Colorado. It is very special and it was honestly, it was that way in the Middle East too, because we were in a lot of areas where there was no light pollution and you could see everything in the sky at night. And it was that way in Denver two as well. We we just lived a stone's throw away from garden to the Gods. Okay, yeah, another beautiful place.
Yep, yep, we were on the north side. I'm looking at your YouTube channel now and again it's Awakening Truth, which we'll have in the show description. You did a couple of videos what does the Bible really say about creation? And diving deeper into the biblical flat earth model I'm sorry, the biblical earth model, and what are your big talking points from that video that you'd like to share with the audience. Mostly we hit scripture, we
did, I'm pretty sure on that episode. We did a couple of our testimonies, like I said, the guy I do my co host or the guy I did a show with us say that I met him at Skyball twenty nineteen and he was from Colorado too well, which was really great. We flew black on the same or flew back on the same plane from Atlanta, Georgia. He was two seats behind me, but the guys sitting next to me, I asked him to switch, and sure enough, because he had the same seat just two rows back. So he was like, yeah,
sure, why not. So we sat there and we talked the entire flight. He went to the same high school I did, just nine years prior before me. We grew up in this Yeah, we grew up in the same area. And it was just I was I was flat Earth has made me like see all kinds of stuff because when when COVID happened, I was working at the restaurant in Colorado, and I knew something wasn't right with COVID.
I just knew something wasn't right. So the people I worked for, they were all like, oh, yeah, we gotta take the vaccine, we gotta do this, gotta do that. Once I saw some jump Campudo on CNN and I saw him on the movie Contagion and how he helped write that movie Contagion, and some jump Caputo in that movie. I'm just like, Wow, COVID is fake. How are they going to have an actor on CNN on a movie play himself, you know, on CNN in real life he can't make it up, right, you can't make it up.
So, you know, a little bit here and there, me and the boss we got we got into it, and I was just I was over it. I bought a van, I took off, and I kept gooding into Facebook jail for thirty days over a Bible and flat earth. So I was just like, you know what, I'm done with Facebook. I can't do anything for thirty days after I post something that I believe in. So
I was done with Facebook. Well, the guy I do the show with reached out to me through a mutual friend, found me and was like, Yo, come out to Missouri. We'll throw you up on the land. We'll take care of you, get you a job. And I've been hearing Missouri for about two years now and we've been we started the show, right, So he felt like he had a calling to do. He wanted to
be a pastor. He was going to be ordained by Dean Odel but right, but as as he was digging down or digging deeper into the Bible, it tells you don't call yourself RABBI, don't call yourself father, you know, just go out there and preach my word. Jesus is the you know, almighty God, and God is the almighty God. Right, so it just made more sense for us to sit around and have a conversation with each other instead of just sitting in a you know, a queue. Listen to
some guy who says, this is what I think the Bible says. I went to you know, Christian ministry school. I know what I'm talking about. And some of these pastors won't even like they won't even touch flat earth. They won't even touch it with a glove on. They won't even right. And what really makes me angry is all these churches are empty the week. There's no cars. The lights are on, but there's no cars there. And it just makes me angry. This is supposed to be a house
of God. Why are we not helping people? Why are we not clothing people like they used to back in the eighties. I was a what do you call it? I was a food stamp baby. We would go to the church for donations for clothes and pants and shoes. They don't do that anymore. Some do, but not a lot anymore. Yeah. I think I mentioned before. You know, there's a little church intent we're in a very very very small town. And we went and they said, hey,
we're having a barbecue afterwards. And there was only twenty people in church that day. Very small church, and there was probably enough food there to feed a hundred people. And I was kind of like, what are we doing? Why aren't we? You know, I always believed and I'm not playing the holier than now card, you know I'm not, but these are the
thoughts that run through my mind. I was like, everything that I want to do in a church should be outreach, whether you're you know out you know, I use the term knocking on people's doors, but that could mean, you know, just walk around malls, sporting events, you know, standing in high traffic areas and talking. But also what you said, you know, cloth, clothing drives, food drives and eventually, you know, making people. So while these are people good, I want to emulate them
and then bringing them into into Christ. And you know, the very the most popular video you have on your channel is very interesting. It says why don't we go to church? And the subtitle is the church has left the building? Elaborate on that a bit. So again, I ran from the Bible my entire life. Right, So my first two like church experiences I ever remember it was Jesus Loves You. But here's the collection plate. You know, we all here, we're all gonna be you know, we're all
gonna go to heaven. But here's the collection plate. Well why are you passing around a collection plate? You know? And I never thought about this as a younger child, but it's just like, why do I need to give you money? Like you're supposed to be preaching the word. It's supposed to be free to all of us. Why do I need to give you money? When the Bible says the love of money is the root of all evil. But you need money to let me hear you speak about the Bible.
So the guy they do the show with he understood this, like he just we get it, you know, we don't. Most of these churches are all about the money. He met a pastor here somewhere in the Missouri, the southern West Missouri part, and he wanted to talk to him about flatter because they wanted to find a church to go to. They wanted to find because he's got, you know, several kids, and he wants to teach them the right way. So the first pastor that he meets, he's
like, no, I don't want to talk about flat Earth. I don't. I don't want to talk about it. I've got a good gig here. I was like Wow, it's a good gig. Well, it's not supposed to be a gig. It's supposed to be, like you said, an outreach. And we're supposed to be out there teaching and and hey, Jesus loves us all. We're all dirt, you know, we're all bags of dirt. Not one of us is better than the other. But Jesus loves you. He loves you just as much as he loves me. God
loves you. He made you specifically, He knew you before he formed you in your mother's womb, and that's that's biblical as well. So we talked about how every time I drive by several churches, they're they're empty, even the big ones that costs millions of dollars to make, they're empty. Of the week. You shouldn't be empty. We should have open arms. If somebody's having a down day, if somebody's thinking of suicide, they can go
to this place. They can go and talk to a man of God, like, hey, brother, hey sister, come in here, let's let's talk about this. Let me show you why you shouldn't be having these thoughts. Let me show you why. Let's let's get you cleaned up. Let's get you whatever. You know what I'm saying. It just breaks my heart that every time you drive by a church during the week, it's mostly empty
unless it's Wednesday night or Sunday morning. Yeah, and that's interesting. In the movies, you'll see the guy who's going through his shroubled life will stop in at a church on like a Thursday night at eleven pm and a'll walk in and light candles in the church. I'm like, if you go to my church down the street, it's gonna be locked up and they're gonna call the cops on you if you try to go in exactly exactly, which I'm
just so that's just how it is. I'm not saying how it should be, but that's just the reality of it, of what it is today. And see that's the other thing with with Nathan Roberts. We got close over the time where he was in the still in the movement, but he lost connection with with Dean because they didn't agree on something. It was like a Kundalini spirit and this, that and the other, and they just didn't agree on it. And I went in to UM twenty nineteen Skyfall thinking that we
were going to just take over the world. It's flat I've got Nathan Roberts, I've got Dean Odal, We've got this guy, We've got that guy. I've got Matt Long, We've got we just got everybody, and we're about to just take over the world. And they crushed my world. They crushed my biblical world because they had a falling out. And now Nathan was going to do a conference himself. He had a good following, and I was I was scheduled to be on his conference. I was going to do
my part and I was going to give a speech at his conference. But his conference happened. It was going to be in April of twenty twenty, and that's when they shut everything down. Right. Well, once they shut everything down, it just like it spread us out. You know, we just stopped caring about flat Earth, we stopped caring about the Bible, and people just went around, you know, did their own thing, and and it just it just crushed me. And it shouldn't have. I put them
on a pedestal. And that's the other thing. You don't need to put a man on a pedestal. Me. I'm nobody on just a bag of dirt. I'm no better than anybody even listens to this episode. But the Bible, Jesus is the Almighty Jesus, the Christ. You shoot mohamashiek, whatever you want to call him, he is the almighty. He brings you to God and he helps you. And it just that's how a church should be. You should and have like a joel Ostein Man he looks evil to
me. Kenneth Copeland, he looks evil to me. P. D. Jakes, you name him, Creflo Dollar. Even that pastor Stephen Anderson. Man, he makes me my blood boil because he hates flat Arthur's and he's in Tempe Arizona, and man, he cannot stand flat earth. And Stephen Anderson, Stephen Anderson, I think you may have seen him or heard of him. He's a very loud preacher and he just kicked a homeless guy was
sitting out of his church asking for money. Not asking for money, but he wanted to read the Bible. He was a homeless guy and he was like, get that homeless guy out of here. Get him out of here. That's that's not biblical. Get him out of here getting money. Don't give him money. It's just like, bro, you are not a pastor, my friend, you are so far gone it's sad. And that's the other thing. I think I mentioned him in that movie or that episode,
but I don't really remember because we kind of go off. So's we like, we like speaking the Bible, love reading the Bible. I have the Matthews Bible that says letter, so if you want to read that, but we can read that, that's awesome. Yeah, that I kind of remember who the Stephen Anderson guy is now. He actually he's the guy who advocated for the death penalty for homosexuals, right, yeah, I believe so, I believe so. Yeah, And he was not a fan of Barack Obama
and Caitlyn General. Again, you can't always depend on Wikipedia, but I kind of remember this guy now that I'm looking at his Wikipedia page. And the other guy, Copeland, he's part of that new Apostolic movement, the Naar whatever. Not a good guy and of course another tool in the toolbox. You know. He was part of Trump's advisory board. And I can't think of a worst person to have on my board than Kenneth Copeland, right,
And I think he just had him. He did within the last ninety days, right, right, and he brought him up and he was like, oh, this is Trump and I'm Copeland, and it's just like, bro, I see something in you and it's not supposed to be there. You ever see that clip of Copeland when he blows covid away. Yeah, the guy I do a coor the show with his kids. Love that. That the song that that somebody made, you know, Yeah, it's great. Yeah that metal guy made one too, right, Yes, yes,
yes, that's the one. I'm ridiculous. Um, I watched the show or a podcast or listen. I can't remember where I said this guy said that, Um, Jim Carrey is the Satanic leader of California and Joel Ostein is the Satanic leader of Texas. And again I can't prove none of that. There's a guy's testimony. But again, like you said, five years ago, I wouldn't have bat an eye at this, But now I'm like, let me let me put one eye over here, let me look with
see what's going on. Yeah, Ostin really showed his colors when they had the flooding. I guess it was two years ago. It could have been. I can't keep track of time anymore. But whenever Houston had the big flood. You know, he has this, however, many thousands of square foot mansion, and he wouldn't house anybody there. This is my house. I'm not going to keep any of you blue collars scum in my house, right right, That's just that's not who Jesus walked everywhere. You know,
he didn't have a Ferrari or a Lamborghini. Yeah, he didn't social distance either, No, he sure didn't. Kenneth Copeland is based out of Tarrant County. Oh my goodness, gracious, I had that young lady on my other podcast. A lot of traffic, child trafficking issues in that county, a lot of abuse from the people in power in that county. I think, thanks for saying that. Yeah, and again I'm not gonna I couldn't. Rob Skiba did a lot of good things for Flat Earth, and some
people say he faked his death. Whatever. May God rest his soul, you know, hopefully he's in heaven now. He was a man of God. But if you YouTube Rob Schemas acting Demo Real, there's a scene in there which is really kind of weird. But he's doing a scene with Jim Caviezel and it was a really weird scene. But it was the fact that he was with Jim Caviezel is what really made me not follow Rob Skiba. I didn't know, Yeah, yeah, and not a lot of people do.
And he wanted to be an actor or whatever. But it was the fact that it was Jim. It could have been anybody else, but it was Jim. It was the passion of the Christ actor and it just really rubbed me the wrong way. And again, I don't like to bad mouth people because a lot of people have done a lot of good for this community.
Yeah sure, and we were a lot of different times in our life as well, right right, right, And Stiba did some amazing work for flat Earth, amazing even with the Bible, because he came to the Flat Earth conference in Denver he just demolished was it Robertson Genis? Yeah, I think it was Robertson Genis and he just demolished him only using the Bible and flat Earth and it was just amazing, just amazing. That's a thing.
I've never heard that. So that would have been what twenty years ago, uh, something like that, ten twenty years ago, probably maybe fifteen, I don't know, huh. Yeah, that's one of my regrets. I always say, Hey, I'm going to reach out to this guy and get him on my podcast. And I kicked myself every single day for not reaching out to And it's not really hard to get hold of people. I've I've chatted with what's the guy who lives in England. He's a big for last
thirty years he's been in the truth community, David Ike. I've talked to his son and we actually had had him scheduled to be on The Fact Hunter a couple of years ago, but we had a communication issue and I just never reached back out to him to reschedule. People aren't really that hold They're not that hard to get hold of. I just need to start out to people because you don't know what tomorrow brings, right. David Ike is amazing.
He doesn't he never really mentions the Bible, but he always talks about the truth community and he I don't know why he's not dead, you know, because he has definitely put a lot of truth out there. Yeah. I actually bought his nine to eleven book. He's got a lot of interesting takes. It's like fifteen hundred pages. Whether or not it's that long, but it's it's one of the biggest books I have. He put a lot of work into it, cited a lot and by the way, Denver and
Norad, He's got chunks and chunks of information. And it's interesting going back to what you said you had Norad Peterson Air Force Base, you had where I was stationed for Carson, the US Air Force Academy, and you said it was just another ordinary day. Yeah, it was like then. There were no planes in the air. It was just peaceful. It was just it wasn't I mean, you know, nine to eleven was very crazy, but we all met up in the park and we're just sitting there like,
man, the world's gonna end. What's going on, We're going to war? But no, no planes were mobilizing, nothing. It was just so peaceful. And it was the same in Hawaiian Scofield Air Force Base or Scofield Barracks. The things we were doing, they were getting accountability of everyone, even people on leave. They were you know, reinforcing the entrances, you know, the security areas. We were putting barbed wire up for some reason
around our headquarters buildings. But other than that, yeah, there was no I don't remember looking up and thinking, wow, look at all the planes swung around. It was just nothing, which in hindsight lends credence to the fact that they knew what was really going on. Yeah, and it's amazing
too because I think about that day and how blue the sky was. And once I started getting into like cam trails, I started recording some in I've got several several videos in Denver where you just got this one line going this way, this line going that way, and it's just so many like chemicals and she's it's sickening. It's just one of the worst things I've ever recorded in my life. Have you had any luck sharing the flat Earth with your
acquaintances? See, that's the other thing. So I've had maybe four or five out of like I want to say, maybe a hundred people I've actually come out to, like you know one guys that were coming out of the closet, flatter closet. I'm that type. Now I'm very arrogant with it, like, hey, I'm a flat earther, this is why. And people look at me like what is going on with this guy? And I'm like, I don't hide it from nobody. As soon as you meet me.
I hey, I've believing the Bible and the earth is flat. I've got I've got pictures of the sun in the moon. I've got pictures of the sun looking like exactly the same size of the moon. There was a fire in Denver, or not Denver, but the Rocky mountains and you could just see the sun. I've got my P. One nine nine thousand, P. One thousand, and I've took a picture, several pictures of the sun and it's exactly the same size of the moon. You can't even deny
it. Even the Book of Enoch says that the sun and the moon are the same size. That just the sun is brighter. And that's so refreshing to hear the last several guests, including yourself, have the same outlook like this is who I am, this is my beliefs. If you have a problem with it, well sorry, you know, I'm sorry if I offend
you. But this is you know, it's refreshing, you know, to hear that people are so you know, deep in their convictions, and I understands there's there's people at certain places in their life that they just don't feel
comfortable. And it is still to me in retrospect, there are people who have no problem again debating the fact that we never went to the moon, that you know, we killed the president, that we did nine to eleven, you know, all these things, but the fact that we're you know, you look at all the number, the thousand miles spinning hurtling through space, sixty six thousand chasing the sun. That's the one thing that's not a conspiracy theory, right, And again I was that guy too, up another
flat earth nut. You know, I deleted David Weiss's email when he send it to me. I'm like, who is this crazy guy? I'm all about conspiracy theories? But come on, man? And then you're like, whoa how how naive was I? And that's funny that you say that, because when I would ask Siri how fast is the Earth orbiting the Sun in twenty nineteen, I've got three or four screenshots and it would come up, you know, six thousand or sixty six thousand, six hundred miles an hour.
Now, when you ask series, right, something different? Right, even on Google they're starting on some search engines, it'll still show that, but many of them changed it to sixty six thousand, seven hundred just to kind of deflect, I'm waiting for them to change the dimensions of the Washington Monument, so right exactly. Speaking of that. In cosmology, Nathan Roberts
was doing a YouTube channel. He's doing it a show one night, and he had an ex Satanists on there and he was wearing like a Nathan's hat. And whether or not this is true, I haven't tried this myself, but if you take an old compass, you know, with a compass with the pencil and then that you stick it in the middle and you could draw a circle on a flat piece of paper. He says. If you do that, you find direct North. Look where the direct North is. And
let's say today, today's your birthday. Go out on at five o'clock in the morning. For five years, you go out every every time on your birthday at five o'clock in the morning, look at Venus. Find Venus. But make sure you have your same paper direct North, and every five years it draws a star. Mean, this will be over here, here, here, and here, and when you connect the dots, it draws a
pentagram. Really and he spect, yeah, he speculated that Satanists actually which is actually draw power from this and this was this was on Nathan's channel. The ex Satanist said he was speculating, what if Venus Satan cursing us on the way down. That's interesting, very interesting. Planetary magic. That's interesting. I've never heard it. Planetary magic. Isn't that weird? The five petals of Venus? Oh man? Yeah, I see exactly what you're talking
about. It's even it's not hard to find even how to cast spells. I'm gonna ex out of this. What in the world, Oh man, I'm gonna mess around and summon a demon during my podcast and I'm sorry for that, canidding, kidding. The stuff that flat Earth has brought me into the Satanic version of everything that's connected to it just you know, solidifies that the Bible is the real deal, of the scriptures is the real deal.
Is the Bible is alive? You know that there is. You're exactly right, you know, And people ask all the time, and that is part of Nathan's book. In the very beginning, as many of our podcasts start out whether it's a flat Earth, Well, for both Flat Earth podcast, why the lie? Right that that is the big question? Well, why would they lie? Well, you know it much of heliocentrism is based on Luciferian numbers and images and mantras, and it is anti God. You're you're
absolutely right. And I'm starting to believe that numbers are all, you know, satanic in nature, because we're all dependent on numbers in our bank account. We got to wake up at five o'clock numbers to get to work. We've got to worry about the hours we work. We worry about birthdays, We worry about numbers all the time, and we don't realize it. That's right. And also frequencies is something that I've kind of been jumping into. Listening to music at I want to say, five twenty eight mega hurts or
something. There's actually healing attributes to listening to music at a certain frequency. Right. And when you talk about frequency, apparently doctor Randall Riife was carrying cancer with the frequency machine. Yeah, back in the thirties. Yea. And it took me down. Another doctor, doctor Alan Goldhammer. His a thing is called True North. It's in California, and he's a fasting doctor, and he was carrying type two diabetes, certain cancer with people just fasting,
not eating, just drinking water. And Big Farmer tried to sue him in the eighties. Never been in trouble in his life. He had to go back to his parents and ask for money to get a lawyer because Big Farmer tried to sue him for healing people. There's a reason that most of the alternative cancer treatment centers are in Mexico now right. And what's his name? The doctor in the Polish doctor that was carrying cancer? Oh man, I forget his name. I'll send it to you when when I get we
get done with this. But they tried to put him in jail for like hundreds of years, and they tried to sue him for millions of dollars because he was using medicine that they were making, but he was focusing it elsewhere and it was carrying people of cancer. What's his name? I forget? Sorry, No, you're good. I didn't entire during this past winter, I didn't entire week of people who were involved in alternative medicine who have been
ruined and chased out of the country. Because again, cancer and the Rockefeller medical industry is a huge business. And if you say, hey, look you can cure this with dandylions, well, that takes away from a billion dollars industry and they can't have that. Just look at the young lady back a couple of years ago, I think it was December of twenty twenty. Her name was like Brandy Vaughan, who was a sales rep for Murk, and she came out talking about vaccines and then boom, she's you know,
wound up dead. And you look at all the other true seekers, Gary Webb and Terrence Yike that the police officer from Oklahoma City. People say, well, if this was a conspiracy, you know, why don't people say anything. There have been tons of people who try to come out and say things then they end up dead. Just look at all the friends of the Clintons. Why who knows sixty five people that committed suicide? Right, and the whole set of rich and on and on and on. And look look
at the Wiki leaks guy. Look at the Bradley Manning. I know he turned into a bit of a freak show. But you know, you expose something bad and instead of the people committing the crime get in trouble, the person who exposes the crime gets in trouble. That's kind of the world we live in today. Right, And his name was doctor Prasinski. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I know exactly who you're talking about. Yeah, right, And it's just amazing to me that they want to hide all this
stuff. And it just again another thing that solidifies the Bible and God being real and we're living in some crazy, wicked times as it is, you know, yep, absolutely, I've only got about five minutes left. I'd love to Actually, I'll talk to y'all a Flyne. I'd love to bring
on the fact on her sometime and talk about some of this stuff. But if you go to your Bible dot com and just put fast or fasting and the search engine God, and you know, the Bible speaks often about how we should be not just praying, but praying and fasting and again this is I should be doing this myself, agreed. And it even talks about eating all the fruits and vegetables and the seeds because I remember as a kid, don't eat the seeds, you'll go you'll grow a watermelon in your belly.
Yeah. And the guy who's still in jail for crying himself from apricot seeds. Yeah, man, George, it's been amazing talking to you. Well, I don't get often to talk to people that think the same as we do. Yeah, And I say the same thing to all my guests. We're all you know. One of the most common emails I get is I feel alone. I don't have anybody to talk to. I'm in the same
boat. I've got a lot of acquaintances, but I don't have a lot of friends in person physically around me to sit down at the at the corner country store and have a milkshake and talk about these kind of things. Because the minute you bring up you know, you can talk about the eagles and the phillies and the orioles and things like that. But the second you say, hey, you know what that this whole we're on a ball. It's such a joke, isn't it. We're on a flatter Where are you going?
There? They're out? Um? Which again, you know, I think we were all on that boat at some time. Um. But I do think we're making progress. I can see by the numbers, uh and the downloads that we are certainly we're making a dent and we are waking people up. I'll leave you with with your last thought, agreed, UMU. Whoever listens to this, I truly believe that the Bible is the real deal.
Maybe it's a little bit mixed up here and there, but once you really look into stuff and look up Lee Stroble, Lee Stroble was it was uh Chicago tabrine journalists. He didn't believe in God, and then something happened in his life and now he's a preacher in Texas and it's amazing. Um. I love flat Earth. I love speaking to people about flat Earth. I love talking about my journey and some of the stuffs that I've brought and
come across, and it's just it's amazing. Open up, just open up your mind to the world of puffabilities because there's a lot of lies out there, but there's people like me and George and several others that are pushing the truth out there and it's it's it's this amazing community we have. Yeah, and definitely make sure you all go to Awakening Truth. It'll be in the
show description. Go ahead, click on that link. Check out his his videos, and again his email address Nicolas Quinn fifty two eighty at yahoo dot com, which is a shout out to the mile high right, Yes sir, and at yahoo dot com. And again that'll be in the show description as well. It's been an absolute pleasure and I look forward to doing it again and again. Folks, Thank you guys so much for listening, and
God bless each and every one of you. And until the next time, keep your head on a swivel and we will see you.