Episode 66: Emails / Canadian Astro-Nots / Voicemails

M. The following presentation isn't al Marve Studios Production. Welcome back truth seekers from around the Flat Plane. It's time for another edition of the Flat Earth Files. I hope this podcast finds you well. Hope you enjoyed the last night's edition was Stephen, had a great conversation with him, and I've had a couple other great conversations over the weekend. I believe our episode with Jail drops Wednesday night, our episode with Nicholas drops Sunday night, and we'll do

a couple more of these email type of episodes this week as well. Today is kind of a lot of things going on. We're going to start off with the speak pipe messages. We have several of them to get caught up on. Then we have two articles to read that was sent to us by listeners. Then I've got five or six emails to read, and then to close out today. You know, we talked to Stephen last night and one of the listeners I did an interview with last night that I'll drop next Sunday.

The name Nathan Roberts came up a couple of times in his book The Doctrine of the Shape of the Earth, and while I was talking to Stephen. I actually ordered it on Amazon. It came this weekend, I guess it was Saturday or day. And it's a great book. So I'm going to read kind of the intro in just the first chapter and encourage you to check it out up with the link in the show description. And I actually have reached out to Nathan and hoping that he will join us down the road

on the podcast. And if you would like to as well, you know the deal, send us an email to the flat earth Files at gmail dot com. Again, it is the flat earth Files at gmail dot com. Also, please do check out the website if you have you know you can listen to our twenty four seven streaming radio. We have our speak pipe message system which you will hear plenty of this morning, the chat room, the forum, so much to do there. Please check it out the flat earth

files dot com, the flat earth files dot com. If you scroll to the bottom of the website, there's a place where you to register your email. I need to start getting some of those emails out, especially when we have kind of special guests that we will have coming up in the very near future. I've been an interesting week here on the homestead. We have gotten several inches of rain, a lot of technical issues in the studio, not from the rain, a complete separate issue, but much of the weekend's spent

here trying to fix things. But we're all set. We're good to go now. Lots of interviews this week and more content coming your way. Let's go ahead and kick it off today's episode with some speak pipe messages. And our first message comes from Lewis. All right, take two. Hey George,

lewisia from New Zealand, just letting you know. It doesn't look like we can send emails out of Gmail to your email address, so just trying to find out is there some information on how rainbows fall into the picture with a firmament? Enjoy your show, keep on going. Thanks, Thanks Lewis. I appreciate that. Thank you for reaching out. And I did email him and he did receive it, so we're now able to communicate a little

bit. But Lewis isn't the first person from the New Zealand Australia region who has reached out and said that they've had issues sending me emails, so you know, I don't know, but luckily we have speak pipe. He was able to go to the website and leave the message, and now we are able to communicate. Right. The other thing was about the rainbows. I did send him a really cool video that kind of talks about the firmament and how the rainbow, you know, if you look at the world as a

snow globe, and how a rainbow arch is like that. I sent on him a really cool video that talks about that, and I will leave that in the show description as well. I do believe the rainbow is arched like that because of the firmament. So check out that video in the show description. Here's our next message. Hello, sending you this message from deep in the woods of the real Transylvania. I don't want to deviate from the subject in hand, so we like to talk a lot. We like to explain

this and that. Well, this is the truth. Now, this is the truth. I think everything is possible. It won't surprise me if we live in some kind of a thirteen floor movie scenarios after the Arctic War. We can find some green lines. But the real question is this, why did they fake the moon landing? Because let's be real, they did and went to the moon, and why they don't even try to go to the moon. We told those excuses, we lost the technology with this, and

that is too expensive to go there. We went once. I mean, bro, you are in tent twenty three and you know telling me that you lost the technology and it's too expensive. You've got all the and he picks up in a second. I'll play the other one here in a second. But the first one, why right? We always ask why the lie when we talk about flat Earth. That very same question should be asked about the moon landing. We know that he can go to the moon in nineteen sixty

nine. Come on, But here's the thing. I don't think there's just one answer to why did they fake the moon landing? I know some of these we've already talked about on previous episodes, but number one, if you remember, Vietnam was gone on, the hippie movement was going on. This was a distraction, and what do we talk about these events? They do several times a year, their distractions. The Chinese spy balloon was a multifaceted

thing. It was meant to distract from things were gone on. It was also a way of saying, in our face, there's no such thing as satellites as we describe them, right, they put them on rockets, they go way up into space, and I personally have installed I think they were

Bluebird satellite dishes in Iraq. And even as a little dumb dumb back then, you know, when I was mounting these things on top of buildings in the middle of the desert, I thought, wait a second, if we're on a ball and this thing has to be exactly man, I forget what was it forty four degrees twenty five? I forget what degree it had to be aimed at? Right, it had to be perfectly aimed in order to get the correct reception. I'm thinking, if we're spinning and this thing is

floating in space, how is it able to be perfectly still? But then, like everything else, you know, when you're in combat, you got bigger fish to fry, and you haven't seen your family in months, you just don't focus on those things. But why the lie? Why did they

fake the moon landing? Many reasons it was all part of NASA is a huge the multi billion dollar contracts, part of the military industrial complex, the Raytheons, the Honeywells, parton me those type of companies, they're all involved in NASA, and again they can they can charge one hundred dollars for a bolt because it has to be specific, you know, to the plant. That's how they're able to get away with it, and of course to push

the heel eccentric model, which hides God. Let's get to Dracula's second message. So I think that Antarctica might be the answer. But there's something that puzzles me. World War two, for instance, in the craziness, absolute madness that happened there, a Nazi had some basis over there, we heard, But do you think that Hitler, Stalin, church children, everyone else knew what's beyond the walls? Are there's some realms? Is there anything else?

Do you think they knew exactly? And in that madness, in the brink of total destruction, why they didn't mention that in a way? Why did that never came up? It's super strange. Other than that, I'm kind of sold that something is there and I think might be the answer for all of what we're living. But this single I never heard from nobody. Why nobody said nothing, even in the brink of the stru By the way, this gentleman is from what is it Eastern Romania where Transylvania is or no,

I'm sorry, Central Romania. He was actually going to join us for an episode, but at the last minute something came up, so I hope to get him back. This guy's actually from that region. So the interview we did last night with Nicholas, which will drop Sunday night this coming Sunday on the what is that the sixteenth, We actually did talk about New Swabia and the fact that again rolling into nineteen thirty three, Germany's economy was in

the toilet and then it bounced back pretty quick. And we talked about the innovation of Volkswagen the car for the people in the Auto Bonn and how quickly they recovered and as they were about to leading to World War Two, they had vessels down in Antarctica, and they did have technology leaps and bounds advanced and what even we had right and we, you know, post eighteen seventy one, were looked upon as the leaders of the world in technology like that.

We had the right brothers, we had Henry Ford, so on and so forth, right, So it was kind of and we talk about how diluted our history is to see a country that was absolutely fleeced post World War One recover so quickly within a five year period, while you know, being down there in New Swabia. Was there something they found? You know that that's the million dollar question. A lot of World War Two doesn't make any sense. I'm open to everyone's ideas. You'll hear more about my ideas this

Sunday. It is kind of again weird how they bounced back and some of the technologies they had a lot of. You know, they had the bell, that flyer, what is that called hold on? So it's called a die glock all so known as the bell And I'm just reading the official narrative here, okay. But it was a purported top secret scientific technological device and secret weapon or vonder Vaffl, developed in the nineteen forties in Nazi Germany.

It was first described by Polish journalist and author Igor Witkowski in product Oh Wonder Whelf in two thousand. So it's associated with Nazi occultism, and it's supposed to have it's supposed to be an anti gravitational device, and it was a free energy type of device. So that lends credence to the fact that we ended up capturing this equipment we take it develop Area fifty one, and you know, we're out there trying to figure out how these things work and they're

crashing them. So they use the UFO alien as a cover story, but the real thing behind it was they did figure out some stuff. And we've talked about Tesla and free energy and how the controllers will not let us have anything for free. That's a fact, So check that out. And I'm want to make a note to make sure I put the diglock in the show description as well. Let's get to our next voice message. Hey, George, just found out that you can break Google Earth by trying to measure the

area of an Arctica. I was just curious what they said it was and comes up to some weird crescent shape every time on the phone and on the laptop. So found another chink in their armor. Thought you might think it was cool. And Ruben is one hundred percent correct on this one. If you go to Google Earth like on your computer, if I go onto my computer, I go to Google Earth and I try to trace the outline line

of Antarctica, it will not let you. It breaks. You can go to any other continent, island state, and you know, drag that thing around it, and it will tell you how far, how many miles, the circumference and all that cool stuff. If you try to do it with Antarctica, it breaks and it kind of looks like a little half moon, not even half moon, like a quarter moon. So if you're at home and you have that available, give that a try. It'll blow your mind.

I have seen that on videos. I tried it. It didn't work. So again, go to your little Google Earth, try to trace the entire outside of Antarctica and do it while you can, because I'm sure they're going to figure out a way to fix it, that's for sure. Well, we have a couple of voicemails from our friend Jim Hey George, thinking, I wonder why somebody, you know when the rockets go up from Nanca

and they always say, you know, we see them go up. Then they start ark arky and arky, and then they're obviously coming back down, and you know they lie and say they're honestly, I don't know what they say, but they're going wrong direction to get the space. I ain't no genius, but I can see the moon or I can see where they're trying to go. They always do the things. They always curve and come back

down. How come somebody hasn't do through the geometry on that tra directory and just say where they're gonna land if they do not course correct, if they go up, they start ark ark and arking. Now they're coming back down. Where on Earth would that land if they don't recorrect, or as just the route which we know they're not going to. They're obviously landing out in

the sea. But somebody's done the math on that. Maybe maybe somebody's done the math and I just don't know, but I would like if any of our listeners, I'm sorry, if any of your listeners got any ideas on that, you know, let us know appreciate that. George just wanted to just wanted to drop this. That's the first one from Jim and to our listeners. If you've done the math, or you're of the geometry type, do some research, you come to some kind of conclusion, you know,

hit me up the Flat Earth files at gmail dot com. I will tell you I've personally witnessed a launch from Virginia. I guess it would have been two summers ago, and the same thing happens. It goes up and then it curves. One of my theories is that the Bermuda Triangle is one of

the places where they land. You know, they created the stories right about the same time NASA started launching from Cape Canaveral and Houston, and many people believe that that's the place where these rockets go to land and they scare people away from there and they scoop them up and they move on with their lives, or they you know, they go to the bottom. I have no

idea, but it makes no sense. I think they try to say it goes up and then you know, it curves and it spins around the earth to game momentum, some kind of uh, you know, scientism crap. But yeah, if you've done the math, it'd be interesting really to figure out where they land. Let's go to our second message from Jim Oh Georgia got another one. Man. It's not really a point no want to make.

It was just a comment I want to make that My wife and I was praying slash meditating grounding outside barefoot, which is I'm not sure if you talk about that on your podcast or not, if y'all are into grounding or earthings. Anyway, I think it they'll but anyway, we're out there doing our things, standing out in the bare foot watching a ten year old play and just and Frayend and literally literally looked up and seen the biggest, brightest,

most vivid rainbow of my life. I'm fifty one this year and never seen a rainbow this bright vivid in my entire life. It was amazing. There was also a double rainbow. The double one wasn't as bright vivid, but the first one was literally literally you could just count each color. You could see each color each like, you know, none of that blending in. It looked like looked like God painted it. I don't know. I

know, it's not much of a miracle. You can make a rainbow with the water host I get it, but I've never seen one like this in fifty one years, and taking it as a blessing from God, we stared at it until every last second of it, until it went away. So thank you God, Thank you George, thank you audience for listening. And there you go. And that goes back to our first message from our listener

in New Zealand. Right, that's rainbows are you know we talk about how this and that obviously the water in the air the conversation and the light reflecting. But at the end of the day, you know, God gives it to us, right, He gave it to us after the flood as a sign of the covenant, and it is beautiful. You know. Sometimes you see a faint rainbow in the distance and you're like, wow, that's really

cool. And then sometimes you see them up close and personal and they really they blow your mind, kind of the way that Jim had the other day. So thank you for sharing that, Jim. And here's our last message. Wow, thank you sending for at least in a row. But I wanted to say something I'm trying to I'm gonna having to have a little prayer meeting, slash ladder intervention with my family. Nothing serious. I'm not trying to brain I'm not trying to imadger anybody with the info, but i want

to let them know where I'm at and what I'm thinking. Give him a few points, just send them home or something to talk about, especially biblically related with my family will help to get my foot in the door. And uh, you know, I always thought, you know, I could start a podcast. Everybody else is doing it. George did it. It's easy. Uh, I can't. I can't. I sit down with a notebook, and you know, well, I'm working full time. So it's just

how much fair time does the person have. I got. I got an early union retirement coming and when I turned fifty five, so I'm counting down the days man, And uh, you know, when I retire at fifty five, if I have the time and energy, it's something i'd like to do, you know, maybe to not try to be a famous podcaster, but at least sit down with my notes and you know, be able to put something together more than what I do now. I'm pretty pretty dag.

I'm scattered, pretty for old red names. I say, you always been a deep sacre, but it's hard to keep me on track. And I'm looking forward to my retirement. George, I cannot wait. And glad Earth's gonna be small part of it. We're a big part. There you go, Thank you, and you know, happy retirement coming soon. That's very exciting to hear. Going back to your last message, I completely forgot to mention. Yes, I've definitely mentioned grounding on my other podcasts several times.

I'm not sure if I brought it up on the Flat Earth files something I try to do. You can't just like take off your shoes and salt shoes and socks and walk outside for thirty seconds and say I'm grounded. You know, something you're supposed to do, you know, every single day for you know, a little bit of time, whether it be you know, fifteen minutes or whatnot. I'm always I can't go an episode without mentioning our Amish

friends. Guys. That blows me away. I'll go over there, and you know, when I go to drop off chickens or pick up the chickens, that the children do all the work and the mom writes up the paperwork and takes my cash. I don't know if I told you, but they have a little sign on their window that says, no, we do not take credit cards. And I said to her, did somebody really try to pay with a credit card? And she just rolled her eyes and last She's

like, yeah, it happens, you know once every so often. I'm like, did they not understand that? You know, Amish don't have electuracity. Now they do have like these gas power generators and they'll use them to do things like charge their cell phones, et cetera. But they don't have credit card machines, which is funny, but it always blows my mind because they are never wearing shoes. They don't wear shoes when they're out and about.

When they grabbed the box of you know, chicken that's been processed, and the young man when I did a batch last year, I think we had what we did one batch sixteen chickens, and we did I think we dropped off ten and then six. Because the boys always grow faster than the girls. This young boy, you know, eleven or twelve, he picks up that box. I think it was sixty pounds when I waited everything out. He just hauled it throwing the back of the f one fifty and he's

in no shoes. And they have a gravel driveway. If you would see my old behind trying to walk across, even the narrowest part of it because we have a gravel you know, we live out in the country. All the roads it's too expensive to blacktop, you know, every now and then you'll see you a drive away out here that has blacktop. You're like,

oh, they're the they're the people with money. We just and when I moved here, I had another huge batch of gravel dumped because it had worn thin so many rains it gets pushed downs, you know, So we did have it redied. That was a lot of work spreading all the gravel. But man, I couldn't imagine these guys are walking running across the gravel no shoes, you know, it's really salt to the earth stuff. So yeah, I have talked about granting and I think it is important right to connect

yourself to Mother Earth. Right, And yeah, you can do a podcast, Jim. If I can do it, If George the old chicken farmer, you know, military guy, if I can do it, anybody can do it. It's just a matter of you know, and you don't have to stay on point all the time. You just speak with conviction and what you're passionate about, be consistent and people will listen. And I really look forward to, you know, when you finally do, when you retire, or whenever you start. Jim, hit me up. I'd love to be

one of your guests on your podcast. Be a lot of fun to have it to chat with you, and I do appreciate all the voice messages from you and let us know how your flat Earth update goes with your family let us know if they're perceptive to it or not. That would be very interesting to hear. I do think we are all caught up on all the voicemails. I appreciate them. Keep them coming. Go to the flat Earth files dot com and right there on the home page you'll see click here for speak

pipe message. And I keep saying I need to upgrade. I think it's only a few bucks. I'll see that way because I know in my fact hunter speak pipe I think they can go for like five minutes, and I actually get as much, if not more usage on this side. So thank you all for that. Let's go ahead and get to our two stories that were sent to us. The first one comes from Dean and there's a story about how the moon is larger than usual. Endean says, silly jesuits.

And this is from I guess acuweather dot com and the story is Astronomy News. The summer of the supermoon gets under way. The first moon of twenty twenty three rose early this week, the first in a series of supermoons that will continue into the autumn. The brilliant, leaf bright full moon coincided with the Independence Day festivities in the United States. This is from July fourth, so you know about a week ago, and the story goes like this.

The first week of July kicked off with a marvelous view of a supermoon, a type of full moon that appears slightly bigger and brighter than others throughout the year. It was the first supermoon of the astronomical summer, and it won't be the last, as every full moon throughout the season will be a supermoon. Photographers worldwide snapped images of the moon as it illuminated the sky. It's amazing how the sun reflect off of this moon and just illumined everything right.

Some of the most breathtaking photos were captured over Istanbul Baghdad my home away from home, Dubai, the United Arab Emirates, Buenos Aires in the United States. The supermoon coincided with our Independence Day celebrations. July's full moon is often called the thunder moon, as it is the time of year when thunderstorms frequently rumbled across North America. And listen the last Yeah, today's the tenth. So it's been seven days or six days since July fourth, and we've had

rain five out of the six last days here interesting. Other nicknames of July's moon include the buck moon, the berry Moon, the Salmon Moon, and the halfway Summer Moon. And it also talks about the rings of Saturn, which I did want to mention. The old James Webb telescope was recently pointed towards Saturn for the first time and the images that captured have fascinated researchers.

And I'm here the reason I wanted to mention this. If you try to look for like the actual pictures what they try to tell you that Saturn looks like, and then look at Saturn through whether it's one thousand, nine hundred or telescope, they are not the same things whatsoever. And by the way, the moon the supermons, you know, if we're to believe you know as many do, that the moon is actually inside the firmament and it is considered the looking glass, right, those kind of things. If you put

put it further away, it can appear bigger. And I do think the firmament has a lot to do with the way of the size of the moon looks. I just wanted to put a little cherry on that. Our second article comes from Oscar NASA is back in the news, Canadian astronaut Jeremy Hansen leads parade as the Calgary Stampede kicks off. That's the biggest event of the year in Calgary, you know. In the cowboy time, the CFL football

team is called the Stampeders. They have big wrestling events, festivity and according to the story, they had over three hundred thousand people there just for the parade. And the story is from July seventh, twenty twenty three. Colonel Jeremy Hansen is preparing to become the first Canadian to travel to the Moon as part of the Artemis two mission, but Friday he cowboyed up to become the

second astronaut to be Marshal of the Calgary Stampede. The ten day Artemis mission could launch as early as November twenty twenty four, and it involves sling shotting into deep space for a figure eight maneuver around the far side of the Moon. It would mark the first time any human has ventured so far from Earth. What do you think, does this guy know yet or is it going to get that little note or c is it going to get kicked down the

street? As always right, if a large scale event kicks off that coincides with what's going on with Ukraine and Russia. It probably wouldn't happen, right, we'll see Hanson wearing a great cowboy hat, blue jeans, and cowboy boots was part of the two hour parade ride through downtown. A blue NASA jacket was a giveaway that it wasn't his world. He says, this is pretty special. I'm a Christmas kid, kind of exciting about riding Cisco today

and being amongst all these cowboys. He said on horseback. Just before the parade began, he said, I'm just a pretender. He says, this is so awesome. I'm just a pretender, but I guess I'm excited to be here. Yeah, you are a pretender. You're an actor. Chris Hadfield was the first Canadian. Chris Hadfield there's another Freemason Scammer was the first Canadian astronaut to be Parade Marshal, after flying two Space Shuttle missions and irving

as commander of the International Space Center from the pool in Houston. I may have added the last couple of words there quote. I did reach out to Chris Hadfield to get some advice since he was the parade Marshal in twenty thirteen, and he said two things. Number one, make sure you rode your horse in advance, and watch out for the fireworks. So there you go. The rest of it kind of gets away from there, but an interesting story. I'll put that in the show description as well, if you'd like

to read the entire thing. I'm a pretender. Yes, you are a pretender, Chris. Let's get to our emails. Our first email of the day comes from Heath says, Hello, I just wanted to tell you your podcast has been exactly what I needed to find. During the craziness of COVID. My wife and I felt like we were seeing the truth that many people around us were not. But we both said then that we are probably still wrong and deceived in a lot of other ways that we don't know yet.

And that's for sure, Heath, I still learned things every single day, and that's kind of the beauty of this podcast. Every time you know, someone new comes on, I learned something and we are deceived in so many ways. It says, when I ran across flat Earth again, I was much more willing to believe the lie of evolution went much further than I thought. I mainly just wanted to say your approach to the podcast is enjoyable and

refreshing. Also, during one of the podcasts you mentioned, a globe was in the background of the two guys who host The Good Mythical Morning on the YouTube that your daughter was watching. I just wanted to make you aware that hosts Rhett and Link grew up together in South Carolina with a Christian background, but once they moved to LA things changed and they have totally deconstructed their faith and I believe they have gone from a good influence on children to a horrible

one. My niece and nephew used to love them, but they've had to quit watching them in recent years. Keep the podcast coming. I love them. I have five children and one on the way. God bless you, brother, and I'm still trying to decide exactly how to teach them correct cosmology. I know it's a big deal and I'm still seeking the exact truth on that. Thank you well, Thank you Heath, and I did email him back. God bless you, brother. Best wishes with all your children.

The one on the way and the approach that we have taken, and it's not necessarily the correct approach. It's just what we have decided. Right, everybody has to do what's best for them and their family. We've taught both. I basically say, okay, this is what it's taught in the public school system. We're on a ball. We're gone this fast. We went to the moon, this, this, and this, and then we sat down the next week and said, okay, this is we believe. We

spend time reading the Bible, some of the books I have. We read the books, videos and things of that nature and say this is you know, the biblical cosmology that we believe. And it's important because you know, when she goes to high school, we decided to send her to like a private school that we feel comfortable with that doesn't make people take vaccinations. That it'll least she'll know both sides. Right. It was so funny that I

forget the listener. We had the conversation about the dinosaurs and her son's own around. Dinosaurs don't exist. You know, I could see my daughter walking to school and it's like, I'll come on, teacher. We didn't go to the moon. The Earth's flat. You could see the like all the children in high school like turn and look at her so we just want them to be obviously that wouldn't happen, but just to be cognizant of both ideals.

And we don't like when we have truth or conversations about anything we don't well, you know, go to another room. We make her part of all these conversations. So you know, I do believe as she gets older,

she'll be more open to consider things. Right. There is a when we read Nathan Roberts that first ten pages or so from his book, there's a one heck of a Bible verse that really punches you in the face, and it talks about I don't haven't lined up right now, but it basically talks about how you know, only a fool will shun something without looking into it. But when we get to that, you know, I'll read it. But thank you, Heath for that really nice email. All right,

Ken writes from last week. We actually had a conversation I think back in May. It says, I hope this email finds you. Well, I'll listen to a recent podcast and heard you were going to a baseball game in Norman Land. Yes, this Saturday, we're doing a baseball trip. We're going to a Philadelphia game and then a Baltimore game on the same day would be fun, So I wish you and your family enjoyous occasion. However, in the time between, he had mentioned that he'd sent We've convert had a

conversation back in May. The between time, I've been doing much research and trying to have conversations with friends and family about flat Earth and the NASA deception, the firmament in the sky and star movements and the like, as well as the ice wall of Antarctica and the treaty pertaining to it. Me being relatively new to this and having a bit of a reputation of a conspiracy theorist,

it is proving to be a difficult challenge to overcome. Of course, most everyone I try to talk about things that I'm crazy, and I have to concede that it does sound crazy. But that's the part of the genius of the deception. It is truly gaslighting in its top form. Isn't that the truth? Right? Once we wake up to the deception, we realize

how silly heliocentrism actually is. Right, it is gas letting in its top form, Just like Ken says, he continues, the main purpose of this email is not to validate things you already know, but really to ask how can I become more involved in spreading God's truth more effectively. I'm beginning to feel a calling to do this. So far, you're the only person in the truth community that I have reached out to. I've watched a few videos and heard the other names. I've read a bunch of books by the top

names on various subjects dealing with conspiracy. I don't know what role exactly I would play, but I feel that reaching out to you is a beginning to find my place in the community. God bless you and keep you ken. And you know I reached back out to him in a nutshell. I told him that I struggle with the same question every day, is what I'm doing

enough? Right? It's cool that I'm able to bring people together and we have a place where we can kind of commiserate, but I always hearken, especially on my other podcast that we meet, we need to make a difference locally, and there's been a lot of times I really want to go down the street and have a conversation with a few pastors in our community. So I'm I'm friends with one of the pastors. Friends is over. We're acquaintance, We say hi, we talk. You know, we've broken bread together

a few times. Yeah, you know, we're friends. But I disagree with some of his things. Yeah, he's been a preacher for a long time. I don't feel like I'm in And you know, here's the thing. Sometimes when you're in a certain tunnel for so long, maybe you don't see some of the things from a different point of view, and maybe it

is my responsibility to pull somebody aside and don't. I would never come at it from a higher than thou type of platform, you know, one of the things that maybe I should take them out to lunch and say, listen, I don't agree with you on this, this, and this because right because you know, and I'm not even specifically talking about flat earth they're doing. I know, like a lot of the pastors are trying to figure out

different ways how to connect with the youth. Because I have gone to multiple churches within a fifteen or twenty mile radius of where I'm sitting right now radius excuse me, And in most cases I'm one of the youngest people there. I'm fifty four now, right. So, and my son's father in law we had a conversation at the birthday party last month. He's a pastor.

They're always looking for new ways to connect with the younger people. At the same time, you don't want to you don't want to make certain, you don't want to make it a show, right, And that's one of the complaints you here that some of the church has become a show? Was it? Kemhan, one of the preachers on YouTube, said he went to a church service in Indiana, I think, and he gets in walks in the church and a young lady headset on mid twenties. I'm the stage director.

Nothing happens with my work, you know, without me saying and he's like, okay, instead of just a church service. Right. So that is the million dollar question, and that is something we talk about often on this program, is how are we able to unwind that depth of the absolute genius of their deception? And you know, I wish I could tell you guys some of my honest opinions on many of these quote unquote. I don't like

to say conspiracy theories because we've been proven right more times than not. With the satellites that should have been a huge flag for people to understand the lies but there's a movie coming out July twenty. First, I'll leave that little nugget for you. That is another theory that again, if you look at the pictures of Tokyo when it was firebombed in March of nineteen forty five, and then look at the pictures of Hiroshima in August of nineteen forty five,

there's no difference. I think you know, Satan and the deceit. The level of deceit in our world is so high. And again it is we're told to take round up something that causes cancer and spray it on dandelions, which is some of the most powerful healing things that we have in the world. It's right out in our yard, but we're taught as a young person to go out and kill it, in some cases kill it with poison that's going to harm us. That's how backwards the world we live in is.

So Yeah, you and I just basically told Ken you know, you have to pray on it, you know, whether or not he calls you to be a full fledged minister. And I've heard people say in their emails that they couldn't find a church so that they're deciding to try to start one. Up a community based you know church. You see some of the tent revivals coming back. There's you know, we'ren't a point in time when people see, you know, the level of deceit and evil that's going on in our

world. You see, especially in our community in Dover, which is you know, twenty minutes northeast of US here, twenty five minutes northeast of US here, the homeless population has tripled in just two years. It's awful. There's a lot of people who are suffering. And every day you turn on the news or giving another billion dollars to Ukraine. Right, so people recognize what's going on. You just have to pray on it. And whether it's

starting your own podcast, whether or not. It's just you know, printing off some trifold pamphlets, right and if anybody wants a website, I got some really cool things that you could print off a piece of paper and their trifold, some on flat Earth, some on Jesus Christ, whatever you're calling is. You print them off and don't even have to handle to people. You can walk through your local Sam's club and leave them around. You might

even a janitor working late at night might find it. Laying on a rack and might pull it up and it might make a difference in their world. It all depends on your level of how comfortable that you are to talk to people. You know. I've considered, you know, going around to a couple of cities and running out little halls and having the local folks there in our community, you know, get together and have little speaking engagements. We have to do what we feel is best and listen to God's calling. If

we seem to stall on this level, then maybe we'll make changes. But we're still We're gaining listeners every single month, So for now, I think this is a good plan. But everybody has their own calling. People may want to do something local. You can hold up signs. I mean, again, we really want to make a difference. Again, we have to do things outside of our comfort zone, things that we may not be comfortable

with. And I still get nervous every time I sit down behind this microphone, knowing that you know, in the next thirty days, you know, well over one hundred thousand people are going to listen to this, and I don't want to embarrass myself or my family. But at the same time, I'm going to be strong in my convictions, I've come to believe that we're being allied to about just about everything. And once that I came to the truth of flat Earth, it really opened up a lot more you know,

windows for me to see through. And I just hope you know. I did write Ken back, and I hope it helped. And if Ken, if you're listening, I just want to let you know that I'm still thinking of you and that if you haven't gotten, you know, an answer decided that I hope and pray that you know what you do, it brings you joy and it brings people to God. And if you're able to accomplish those two things, then you've hit a home run. And I hope to hear

back from you from you again in the near future. The next email comes from our friend Ali, and she was actually the one who sent me the email about how aspirin really caused a lot of deaths during the Spanish flu, which was neither Spanish or flu, and I actually did an episode that on the fact under based on the information that she sent me. And she says, Hi, George, thank you so much for email response and it was so fun to hear you talk about the aspirin in nineteen twelve on the fact

Hunner. I always enjoy hearing your thoughts on these various topics, and also for people to consider their pharmaceuticals as a major aspect of control. I hope that will help people think through that. I have another question for you. I wanted to see if on your journey to flat Earth, if you've looked into the North Pole black Rock. Interesting that name black Rock because they pretty much control the world now right, black Rock and Vanguard Mount, Zion,

Tree of Life, etc. At the North Magnetic Pole. I don't believe Eden is on Earth anymore, but perhaps the magnetic Mountain at the North was there. Tree of Life. There is still land masses there. I believe there is also lesser known treaties that monitor the Arctic. Very suspicious, suspicious. I've seen these fifteen hundred maps so many times and wondered at these land

masses that were there. Do you have any thoughts on these? There's a few great videos from this TikTok flat earth account that may pique your interest. I haven't heard a lot of people talk about it in the flat earth community so far, and there are three links to the TikTok accounts, which I will put in the show description as soon as I copy and paste there.

And you know, it's interesting. We talk about an article all the time on the podcast, but rarely have we really talked about the Arctic and how important that magnetic North Pole is there. And you know, the word blackrock is really intriguing, and the tree of life that I have heard about, but I'll be honest with the alley, I have not spent nearly enough time

perusing the North Pole or the treaties that monitor to North Pole. So there's my homework assignment that I will be working on over the next couple of days. And don't forget to check those TikTok links out in the show description also says another thing this guy mentions which makes so much sense is about the stars being angels, which I have heard that before. Wouldn't that make so much

sense? The Bible constantly says Heavenly hosts, and he explains it here and here I'll put this link in the show description as well for you guys to peruse. Interested to hear your thoughts. Again, thank you for taking the time to spread the word. You were instrumental in waking me up. I think something on TikTok had gotten me thinking, wait, what the earth is flat? And I send it to my mom and sister, and my sister had found your podcast and send it to me. Funny enough, both of

them are still not awake to this yet. Our husbands are opposed to it, which doesn't help. But once you see it, you can't unsee it. It's God's creation. It's really hard when spouses and family members don't understand and are unwilling to look into it. And that's just having them to take the time to look into it is just the once you get over that hump in most cases, you know you can really get through it right because it

makes sense. I still believe God will make himself manifest, and I do pray that all of our blinders continue to fall, and God make himself known in a mighty way and will avenge evil and the countless deceptions. That's there's so many deceptions everything that Satan wages on our world. And when I read that verse from the book here at the end of this podcast, it's really

going to blow your mind and make you think. And that's something to all the emailers and listeners say the same thing, you know, read that verse to them. Thank you so much, Ali for all your contributions to this podcast. I greatly appreciate it. The next one comes from Simon, and what a great email. Just like all these emails are just tremendous and I greatly appreciate these. This is from Simon. Simon says, I hope you

were well. I still occasionally listen to your podcast, but I also enjoy times of quiet compilation while I apply myself in the garden or other labor intensive tasks. You know, my friend Stephen who's an author up there in Toronto, I had him on the Fact Hunter a few times. He told me the same thing. He's like, you know, we always are listening. I always got my earbud when I'm doing tasks. This morning, I was

listening to something while I was out in the garden pulling cucumbers. Right, But he said, sometimes just take your headphones out and just enjoy nature. So when I go on my walks, still rehabing a terrible you know, leg injury, I can't walk nearly as much as I used to. I used two years ago. I was running in five and ten case and it's just sad. How you know, as you get older, especially you know

the abuses of the military takes on you. But I have you know, once a week I will just completely go, no cell phone, no earbuds, and just enjoy nature. It is really enjoyable to do that. And I concur with that, Simon, He says, having worked at university for sixteen years, I'm worried of the pitfalls and overanalyzing something and pursuing an intellectual

analysis of the extreme. I'm of the mind that pearls of wisdom, wisdom, excuse me, an understanding will appear in our thoughts at the right time. My father uses the term intellectual obesity. That's so spot on, isn't it intellectual obesity? These days, I believe many have fallen victim to information overload. Perhaps that's the whole point, and I can see that, Simon

right. It's a lot to take in. Much like a denial of service attack on a website, our minds are assaulted with an endless stream of images and sounds. Thereby, we are no longer able to recognize what is right in front or above us and grasp the most fundamental concepts, Whereas a clear mind is much more receptive to simply seeing an understanding what should be obvious. My youngest sister recently became a passionate Christian. Naturally, I'm happy for her.

While I did go through a Catholic boys high school in the institution of the church, it failed to take hold. Perhaps it was my father's early influence on me, which I am at peace with, that led me to take a more philosophical approach to life. I do feel that the Bible is a powerful document, and I can see the truth flowing through its words. In fact, I believe that the power of the Holy Spirit enables us to activate the Bible into a living expression of God. Without that, we cannot

comprehend the depth and power of the Word. Although there is much discussion, discussion, and reference to scripture to support the truth as we know it, I often find that it is simply apparent before my eyes. If all of creation is an expression of God's will, then so long as we can truly see through unfiltered eyes, then can we know. I've often reflected on the common predicament that once there is a true understanding of our reality, people feel

isolated and alone. And I'm here to tell you from all the emails I get, you know, the ones I read, are you know, one or two percent of all the emails we get. And one of the common you know, themes of the email is exactly what Simon just said. Right. Once there is a true understanding of our reality, you feel isolated. And one of the reasons people are so passionate about waking other people up is

so that we can have others to speak with about these things. And as you've heard just within this podcast, alone, yeah we can't even there's some people who can't even get their spouses to, you know, go down these streets. For me, this is an unfamiliar struggle, as my life has essentially been alone as long as I can remember. Gradually coming into an understanding did not trigger shock, as it was revealed to me at the right time

in my life, and so it was simply a natural progression. Excuse this mandering message, as I've been meaning to write for a while, and gradually my thoughts are running through my fingers into the keyboard. It's been monumental email. A slightly lighthearted observation I had a while ago was if indeed we lived on a globe, then surely our pilots could shorten flight times by traveling as low in altitude as possible. As we know, the length of an arc

is a factor of its radius and the angle. In fact, rather than attempt to argue that our world is a level plane, it is more entertaining and wacky to attempt to explain reality with the so called spherical model of the Earth. In fact, the Russians experimented with this and actually built a plane that worked using the so called ground effect, although I don't believe it was

to shorten flight times. As I jokingly speculated, one of your shows was a discussion about how everything could possibly just happen randomly and not without intelligent design. I suddenly remembered an experiment I tried decades ago when I was a young engineer. I had this inspiring idea as following picture a square of pixels or dots on a computer screen. Each pixel can be turned on or off sequentially. In fact, this sequence would follow the binary counting of numbers simply ones

and zeros in rows. And if you cycled through every combination of bits or pixels, you would eventually generate all kinds of images, letters, and numbers. And he attached an image to illustrate his point. And if anybody would like this image to kind of go along with this email, let me know and I will copy and paste it to you. I'm not going to send his email address or anything, but if you'd like to see this image,

please hit me up and I'll send it to you. But it's very This really hits home talking about right if if things just happened without intelligent design. So if the top right hand bit is the lowest bit, and it constantly turns on and off at the fastest possible rate that the computer program can operate at. So take it a modern computer with a speed of five giga hurts,

which is five that's five billion cycles per second. Right, how long would it take to go through all of the possible bit combinations of the image above. That's eight rows of eight bits or sixty four bits. Now do the math, and he asked chat GTP to help. It was one hundred and sixteen point eighty eight years. And that was on a computer running at

five billion cycles per second. So what does that mean If it takes that long for a simple eight times eight bit image to go through all the combinations, what are the chances of all life that we see around us occurring just through random chance. To me, this was an incredible moment, realizing I had been shown that there is a creator, nothing is just due to chance. Finally, due to a rainy day, I could put all my thoughts down and email you. God bless and take care of Simon. Thank you

for that amazing email, Simon, and again for the listeners. If you want to see the image he discussed, not that you really need it, but it does really hammer home, you know, just send me an email and ask for Simon's illustration and I'll copy and paste it into an email for you. Our next email, thank you, Simon. Our next email comes from Justin. Justin says, I don't know if people just randomly send you emails of thoughts that they have. I just observed something while driving down the

road or driving down my driveway, he says. While I was spraying the windshield fluid on the windshield, and after the wipers had finished, the fluid that didn't get pushed to the side was running straight down the window. I then made a slight turn at less than ten miles per hour, and the fluid change direction as the turn was happening. I stopped and the fluid went running straight again. So the earth rotates at a thousand miles per hour and

water still lays still. Come on, man, thank you, Justin. I appreciate that our friend Rachel has sent her third email. So Shortly after my younger brother passed away, I met a young girl who initially I was afraid to speak to because she was extremely gorgeous and she reminded me of a Barbie doll. She brought joy to my life where initially I would have been in sadness. She struggled with some things, but I let her stay with me. If she agreed to go to church every Sunday, that would be

her rent. And I provided her with a place to live and food to eat, and I even drove her to some of her meetings to try to get to help get her life together. I shared the flat Earth with her while she lived with me, and she of course thought that this was nuts. I played her some YouTube videos. I even shared some by Rob Skiba and others as well. Eventually it clicked with her and she too became a flat earther. Ultimately, I love this girl with all my heart. She's

like a sister to me. Her name is Desiree and she listens to your podcast. Well, Desiree, God bless you and thank you for listening to our podcast. And Rachel sounds like a great person, and you know, just shout out to both of you. Greatly appreciate it, says she may be sending in an email eventually. I would love to hear her story on here, Desiree. It's the flat Earth Files at gmail dot com. We'd love to hear your story. She's been through the ringer because the devil was

definitely intimidated by the powerful things God has for her future. What a wonderful way to put it in that scope, right, She's been through the ringer because the devil saw the powerful things that God had for her and her future. Amazing. She's doing amazing things. She's married and has a new baby. Her and her husband have both been baptized. And she even shared with me that her husband has been looking into flat earth as well, although he

hasn't completely opened his eyes to it yet. And I know God's truth always prevails. I'd love to share more of her story, but that's her story to share, and I'm just so proud of her. And the work God has done in her Rachel. Thank you Rachel for continuing to send these uplifting messages and desiree. God bless you and your family, and we hope to hear from you and to share your story with everyone. Laurens actually sent me an email on the Fact Hunter email, but she listens to both podcasts and

I really wanted to share this on this forum as well. Again, thanks to Lauren for this. She says, Hello, my husband and I often listen to your podcasts, both The Fact Hunter and Flat Earth. I first heard of her first heard about the flat Earth about ten years ago from a friend's sister who was a lawyer. I was perplexed, but knowing how smart she was, I didn't discount what she said. I think once I learned that vaccines were a huge scam in the and landing was fake, flat Earth

wasn't such a huge leap. The final straw for me was the flat Earth un logo, which by the way, has thirty three little sections. Nothing to see here. I can't believe how much more sense the Bible makes from a flat earth perspective. Isaiah twenty two. It is he who sits above the circle of the Earth converting to flat earth perspective has had some interesting consequences. For one thing, it's kind of a litmus test of world leaders.

It's a sad litmus test because they always fail. Although it is good to know who was lying, because they all are. How do you know a politician is lying? Their lips are moving, all right? The old joke. I was hopeful about RFK Junior because so much of the reason I am awake today is because of what he exposed. And RFK Junior is one of these gatekeepers, like so many others. Right, And this next chunk I

was not aware of. And it's really interesting listen to this. Come to find out that on his donation website he has an option to donate thirty three hundred dollars thirty three. You cannot make this stuff up. That was a month ago. Now it's thirty three hundred and sixty six hundred. He also has another donation option that he sent through email that was for twenty seven, which is nine times three. Maybe it's just another coincidence, right, the

coincidence jar that coin goes. But it looks like to me he is a freemason, certainly does and it's interesting that you mentioned that because here in the next few weeks on the fact Hunter will be doing a podcast on one Marilyn Monroe, which was one of our listeners, Samuel. I believe it was Samuel who would have asked about it. And that's a whole another thing that

let's just say Maryland was a diversion because of La Billings. If you've never heard of the name Lamb Billings, welcome to that rabbit hole and you'll see why the Monroe was a distraction. But anyway, Freemason, for sure, I don't understand how that squares with Jeff K and RFK being assassinated. It doesn't explain why he's still alive to think that RK Junior could be controlled opposition After all of that, I thought your other listeners might be interested to know

this. He is also Catholic, so what are his connections to the Vatican. Incidentally, in nineteen eighty five, the Vatican minute a coin with a plane spraying cam trails above a map of the globe. And you don't have to look very hard. Just put in nineteen eighty five Vatican coin cam trail

and it'll blow your mind. Just what exactly are those else. We went on a road trip beginning early in June and saw chem trails every day and everywhere except very remote areas from DFW up so I guess that's Dallas Fort Worth up to eastern Oregon, which they've been trying to secede from the state that that eastern part of Oregon and join Idaho for a while. I'd love to

see them succeed. Anyway, we drove home early July and we didn't get to see one chem trail, so it looks like they stopped when the weather got hot. My husband keeps saying that there is no political solution to this predicament because it's a spiritual battle. And I think that this octopus, you know, was it the Gary Webb who wrote that it is that there is no political solution. Voting harder will not solve this. Thirty million two people

to choose from. I don't believe we should have political parties. I think you should vote for a person, not a party. There are states where some people will walk in and just click Republican or click Democrat and they have no idea who we're what they're voting for. You know, locally, sure elections can make a difference, But anything federal is untouchable at this point unless you know, we would have to get huge numbers. We're making a difference.

I see the numbers, like I said earlier, But yeah, like like the police said in Spirits of the Material World, the very first versus there is no political solution, right, the first four verses. There's no political solution to our troubled evolution. Have no faith in constitution. There is no bloody revolution, and that was eighty one, and of course you know that there. I think they're drummer. Stuart Copeland. His father was one of the founding members of the OSS, which would become the CIA. So

yeah, I agree, there is no political solution. It is a spiritual battle. This is the epitome of good versus evil what we're witnessing right now. She goes on to say that I'm praying someone expose or figure out the specifics of their plans and see how it is working together. Sin thrives in darkness, and the truth will set you free. May what was whispered in secret be shouted from the rooftops. And isn't it a sin that our government

has so many secrets? And we're supposedly living in a free society, right. Thank you for your bravery to discuss such taboo topics. It has been somewhat difficult roads since so many in the church are still asleep. That is something I battle internally every day. To Lauren, though more and more are waking up, agreed. Listening to your show reminds me that we are not alone. I'm praying for courage to oppose evil and walk in truth for all

of us and her daily lives. However that looks for each individual, the Lord can multiply even the smallest of obediences become Lord Jesus. I get the most amazing, amazing emails, and I kind of replied to her and let her know, you know, I just try to do my best. I'm not classically trained in radio where communications. I just try to do my best. You know, my dad was the original truth seeker. I kind of

let her know that I mentioned here before. You know, my dad thought he was making a difference in ninety five when he was the first speaker Clinton appointed the Desert storm syndrome, you know Senate Committee, the Special Committee haired live on c SPAN and my dad was the first one called up and point blank said that the these soldiers aren't sick from any Iraqi chemical. They were

sick from vaccines and the pills they had. His take. And also by the way that the Saudis, for some reason, we're spraying kerosene on the streets to keep the dust down. But and of course you know the oil fires and the burn pit, and you know, the government really let him down, the VA let him down. And she was kind of right back, you know, she she I want to share a little bit of this, she said, thanks for the information about the Illuminati information. It is

a staggering the breadth of their influence. They believe the world belongs to them and the rest are useless eaters. And in fact, you know, some of the ancient Egyptian I think the Bill Cooper episode I play last night mentioned, you know, some old document mentioned useless eaters. It's really interesting. That's nothing new. Klaus Schwab didn't come up with a term useful cedars. It's been around for a long long time. She says. It's tempting to

tremble before their power. Personally, I think me from George, I think flat Earth is one of the things that helped me. You know I'm not a slave deman. I answer to God. Right. The state of Delaware didn't create the land that I homestead on. God created that. She goes on to say that the Bible predicts it, and we know who finally wins.

In fact, learning about this great evil makes some of the revelations make even more sense, and that I'm sure that the providential history continues and we will become clearer to the point that it has proven to be true and clear in every sense, though there are still mysteries, and this next one really motivated me. Martin Luther was just one man against this monster. Like to me, when I first read that, that was powerful, and I just

got this a couple of hours ago. You're right, Martin Luther stood up. He made a huge difference. And he was one man. Obviously he had, you know, folks help him him nail these things, you know, to the doors and the blessing of the print press, and able to spread the word. But he was a man and he stood against the monster. Imagine if we all could, we can make a huge difference. She says, I'm often reminded of the words to his hymn. Though this world

with devil I'm sorry. Let me try that again. Guys, though this world with devil's filled should threaten to undo us, we will not fear, for God has willed his truth to triumph through us. The prince of darkness grim, We tremble not for him his rage, we can endure for low his doom is sure. One little world, excuse me, one little word shall fill him. May we all resist the devil and he will flee from us, And may we have great courage. So, Lauren, thank you

for just the wonderful, wonderful emails. And this last email is kind of a heads up, he says, I hope all is well with you. Do you know anyone in Los Angeles? So a shout out to all the people in southern California here, anyone out there that might be willing to connect with our listener also asked, is there a flatterth community out there that we could refer him to? He downloaded the David Weiss's flatterth app He tried to reach out some of the local people, but no luck. He said,

maybe it's just me. I said, he's all caught up on the Flat Earth files and now catching up on the fact Hunter. So listen folks. Obviously, I'm not going to give the listeners information over the email, but if you know, if you're in the southern California area, if there's someone who'd like to connect, or if somebody would like to call a local restaurant and say, hey, let's have a gathering. I know we have a huge listenership in California. It doesn't break it down any more than state.

I can see how many people in the state listen, but it doesn't give me anything cities or things like that. But California is the largest listenership in the country for the Flat Earth files. So there's definitely a lot of listeners in the southern California area. If somebody knows of a flat Earth gathering, I know that this I think it's October and flat Toberfest is in Las Vegas, so what It's just a couple hour drive from So Cal to Vegas,

right, So there's that. I know that for sure that there is a gathering coming this fall. And I remember being in Barstow, California, or Fort Fort Irwin, California when the training was done. Some of the senior folks before they caught their flight, they'd go to Vegas for a night. They do the drive, so it's definitely doable. But again, if anybody in the southern California area knows of a flat Earth gathering or is looking to meet up, hit me up and I will connect you guys. So let's

do one more thing before we close this podcast out again. I would like to read about the first ten pages, which is basically the introduction in the first chapter of the book, The Doctrine of the Shape of the Earth by Nathan Roberts, a comprehensive biblical perspective. It's really really good stuff. So

let's get started on that. And I got the hard copy. You guys know that I always buy hard copies, but it is available on What's the Thing on Amazon where you can read it digit digitally digitally, I think it's like six or seven bucks, but don't quote me introduction. When I first heard debates of the shape of the Earth, I initially reflected with these sentiments, what does it matter? That's the first thing we all ask. Right, I'm not stupid. There's no way I believe to lie about such a

fundamental aspect of my existence. Who would manufacture such a silly lie? And for seemingly inconsequential gain. How can anyone know? As I begin studying God's word, which I have found corroborates precisely with our reality, the answers to my many questions became clear, and I quickly realized why the doctrine of the shape of the earth is important to all, not just Christians. The heart of this book is to encourage two groups of people. First, the Christian.

Once a man wholeheartedly embraces God's word manifested as Jesus Christ John one one, as faithful and true, only then will he live a life that shouts no hope or truth exists that is contrary to God's words. Only then will the prayers of believers in Yeshua, the Hebrew word for Jesus, become more relevant, frequent, and fervent, and as a result, more powerful and effective. Their zeal for the Great Commission is enriched Matthew eight sixteen through twenty.

Second to the non Christian. When a man comes face to face with the reality that the flat earth is scientific truth and it agrees with the Bible,

his strong resistance towards the God of the Bible begins to disintegrate. I'm here to tell you I've gotten many emails that reflect that he becomes open to the possibility that the God, if the Bible, has offered him a remedy for his sin through a repentant heart and faith in his only begotten son, Yeshua as his Lord and Savior. The chapter titled Truth Leads to Yeshua is dedicated to the testimonies that bear witness to the impact that the doctrine of the

shape of the Earth has already had and will continue to have in many lives. Something else I've learned on my journey in the doctrine of the shape of the Earth is that the words of God and his character are compared to the likeness of his Earth, making this topic even that much more important for us to better understand our God through his creation. I will share even more examples

throughout this book. However, here is just one powerful example. Psalms one nineteen ninety from the Amplified Cross Reference Bible states that forever, o Lord, your word is settled in Heaven stands firm as the heavens. Your faithfulness is from generation to generation, and you have established the earth as it stands fast. What does it mean to have established the earth as it stands fast.

The Merriam Webster Dictionary defines the word establish as one to institute permanently, number two to make firm or stable, number three to put a firm basis. The word stand is defined as to take or be at rest in an upright or firm position, to assume a specified position, to remain stationary or unchanged, to be steadfast, to set upright, or opposed or resists changed. So the word fast is defined to mean in a firm or fixed manner.

Using the descriptions for the words in this passage, it is quite clear to see that God's faithfulness is being compared to the earth, which is stable, fixed, firm, remains stationary, steadfast, unchanged, instituted permanently, that

is, set upright and opposes or resists change. Psalms One, eighteen eighty nine through ninety contains a parallel as to how God expects us to believe upon his faithfulness just as surely as we live upon His created earth that is stationary, stable, set upright, and fix beneath our feet, as a firm believer in Yeshua as my redeemer, and someone who relies on God's word as the authority for my life, I naturally have a deep desire to understand God's

perspective on everything, including the shape of the earth. After spending many hours researching God's word, praying for wisdom and discernment, and performing scientific experiments,

I humbly and gratefully submit my findings to you. Before you move into the next chapter titled My Flat Earth Story, please take the time to read the following passage because it serves as just another testament as to why men, women and children are so lost without hope when they do not wholeheartedly trust in God's word. I hope you can see the connection between the following passage and the doctrine of the shape of the Earth, because that which may be known of

Eloheim is manifest to them. The Eloheim hath showed it unto them, For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen being understood by the things that are made, even in His eternal power and majesty. So that they are without excuse, because that when they know Eloheim, they glorified him, not as Eloheim. Neither were thankful, but became vain

in their imaginations and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools and changed the glory of the uncorruptible Eloheim into an image made like a corruptible man, and to birds, and to four footed beasts and creeping things. Wherefore Eloheim also gave them up to uncleanness throughout the lust of their own hearts, and to dishonor their own bodies. Between themselves, who changed the truth of Eloheim into a lie, and worshiped and served the

creature more than the creator, who was blessed forever. For this cause, Eloheim gave them up unto vile affections. For even their women did not change the natural us into that which is against nature. And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another, men with men working which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves,

that recompense of their error was met. And even as they did not like to retain Eloheim in their knowledge, Eloheim gave them over reprobate to do things which are not convenient, being filled with on righteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetness, maliciousness, full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity, whispers, backbiters, haters of Eloheim, despiteful, proud boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, covenant breakers, without

natural affection, implacable, unmerciful, who, knowing the judgment of Eloheim that they commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have the pleasure in them to do them. And that is First Romans nineteen to thirty two. Now you know this next part here, the next five pages or so, is a bit of his flat Earth story. And

this is going to sound familiar to most of you. By now you're likely wondering what happened in this man's life that led him to spend so much time on the doctrine of the shape of the Earth that he has enough content to write this book. Well, it was the spring of twenty fifteen and I was scrolling through my Facebook news feed and saw a ridiculous video posted. The video was of a Saudi cleric attempting to explain the way a plane can fly

over the Earth without any account for the alleged spin of the Earth. And that should be considered a proof that the Earth is stationary, and I'll try to find the link I meant to find that before. But his name is Sheik Bandar al Kaberry, who was a Saudi cleric, and he was on Memory TV in January of twenty fifteen, and he publicly said that the Earth does not spin. This was my first encounter where the globular shaped, spinning

Earth was ever challenged. Of course, my instincts quickly kicked in and I unashamedly ridiculed, mocked, and laughed at the thought that someone out there believed that we'd been told about the Earth by all governments on the Earth to be false. I was too busy laughing to even take the time to consider the Saudi cleric's point that the spin of the Earth, should it exist, would have to be taken in account of every aircraft lift off, flight path travel

time, and yet it is not. Perhaps I should have listened. Because I didn't listen, I experienced the folly and shame that is described in Proverbs eighteen thirteen and from the King James Bible, it says he that answereth the matter before he heareth it. It is a folly and shame upto him right and that is something as we in the truth community should really think about Proverbs eighteen thirteen. You know, if you answer a matter before you look into

it, it is a folly in shame unto us. Right. Several months later, December twenty fifteen, what I thought the shape of the Earth was to be challenged yet again. This time it was by an author, David E. Robinson, who knows the Bible very well and is a self avowed Christian. If I recall correctly, he posted on his blog a picture taken of the Alaskan horizon, which was obviously flat, and made a matter of fact statement to the effect of quote, well, if this doesn't prove the

Earth is flat, I don't know what does. And I have since tried to find that blog post, but I don't see it, though he still has plenty of flat Earth related posts. Perhaps I chuckled a bit, though I didn't laugh this time. I was extremely puzzled because this was a man who I had grown to respect and could not simply laugh him off without a reasonable cause. Now I had to dig in and research this nonsensical stationary flat earth theory and debunk it so I could move on with my life. With

more important topics worthy of my study time. After six months of attempting to prove I was living on a globe, you know, spinning on its axis at a thousand and eighty miles per hour while orbiting the Sun had a velocity of sixty six thousand, six hundred miles per hour, while the Solar System orbits around the Milky Way at four hundred and twenty thousand miles per hour, while the Milky Way itself is ripping through the galaxy at a trajectory of approximately

two million and two hundred and thirty seven miles per hour. I failed even when I tried to solve this mystery with the standard answer of gravity. Much to my dismay, I realized gravity is a simple theory and not a fact. For something to be fact, it must be something that is indisputably.

The case, gravity is not indisputable. If gravity were this amazingly powerful thing that makes you and everything else on this earth stick to it, how come you can why smoke from a fire rise and a helium balloon float up? Shouldn't gravity be holding these things down to the earth. Why is it that you can watch a bee or a neat effortlessly fly in the air, defying gravity. Has it achieved zero gravity? The real answer to these phenomena is

much more basic and simpler than you may have even guessed. The answer is density. Things that are lighter than air or that can use the wind to glide, will rise. Things being heavier than air or not using the wind to glide will fall. In water, it's buoyancy that must be taken into account. This is why air bubbles beneath the water rise and why a rock beneath the water will go to the bottom. You can test it for yourself

in the pool. Fill your lungs with air, and you should likely float, of course, all as proportionate to your weight and the amount of your lungs can hold. Then blew out the air from your lungs and you should notice yourself beginning to sink. Now, if you're seeking for me to provide you with a citation or reference from a professional scientist who has written a booker scientific journal that agrees with my assessment, don't hold your breath. You'll have

to learn to trust your God given senses. And I will elaborate on this point throughout. In any case, I have found zero evidence for the ludicrous speeds postulated by the heliocentric universe model, as well as many other contradictions, for the science claims of a globular shaped, spinning Earth. And when I say science with a capital S, that is referring to pseudoscience versus science with a lowercase S. That is real science. And until my investigation into the

flat Earth, I didn't know there to be a difference. Mariam Webster's dictionary defines the word science says the state of knowing knowledge as distinguished from ignorance or misunderstanding. Number two, knowledge about or study of the natural world based on facts learned through experiments and of observation. In short, Mariam webster Dictionary defines science as knowledge. So if you do not have knowledge, well then you

lack science. Science and knowledge are the same thing. Whenever a Christian says the Bible is not a book of science, little do they know the ignorance of what they have just revealed themselves. For what they have just said is the Bible is not a book of knowledge. I have witnessed too many people in the mainstream Christian community who have a large following, such as David Platt, the founder of the Secret Church, who have openly mocked and bashed the

biblically stationary and flat earth. David Platt and many others claim the Bible is not a book of science. True, it is not a book of science with a capital of S, because that is a type of religion that blindly follows worldly and unsubstantiated claims in favor of actual science with a lowercase S. The Bible is a book of many things, including a book of knowledge.

If you don't think so, you may think differently after reading only the thirty one chapters of the Book of Proverbs, let alone many of the other books

of the Bible. As for me, what I found, after gaining knowledge biblical and experiential about my natural world based on facts learned through my experiments and my observations, are that a globe shaped earth is pseudoscience, which may have been a similar battle Paul was trying to convey to Timothy when he wrote him warning in the First Timothy six twenty to quote avoid a science falsely so called. The section of the scripture could have just as well been interpreted as a

knowledge falsely so called. Right. Modern science tells us that the Earth was created from the Big Bang, right, God wasn't involved and we evolved from monkeys. Unfortunately, many so called Christians do not challenge these claims, and in some cases fully embrace them. According to Ecclesiastics one nine, there is nothing new under the sun. It is possible that the early Saints had to

combat the same type of heresies within their congregation. Maybe. In any case, I've concluded that much the same way, many a man has set upon the course to debunk the existence and deity of our Lord and say of your Yeshua. So it is for those who earnestly not flippantly, attempt to debunk a stationary and flat shaped earth. My goal is not to prove anything to you, as that is impossible to prove something for someone. It is the

responsibility of each observer to determine if a proof actually proves something. You must become the observer. And while reading books like this are helpful, I encourage you to research beyond this book. And most importantly, your eyes will not see what your mind will not permit. So please prepare to open your mind to God's word. And as first Thessalonians Chapter five, verse twenty one encourages us to do prove all things and hold fast that which is good. And

that's the end of chapter one. And again, this book is entitled The Doctrine of the Shape of the Earth by Nathan Roberts. We'll reach out to him and see if he would like to join us in the future. But I found it very interesting and I like to just consume this type of stuff, and I hope you enjoyed it too, and I hope you enjoyed this podcast. Thank you so much to all the great emailers. It is greatly appreciated. Thank you to who was at Oscar and Dean for sending the stories.

Thank you all for the voicemails. Please, if you'd like to leave a voicemail, go to the Flat Earth Files dot com and I'll leave us a voicemail and then we'll be sure to play it on the next episode. And again, thanks to Nathan Roberts for the book. If you'd like to purchase it, I'll have the link in the show descriptions if you'd like to check it out. And thanks to all the guests. We have more lined

up. I've got another interview tomorrow night, and much much more to come as we continue to forge our way through the summer, and God bless you all again. If you'd like to email us, it's the flat earth Files at gmail dot com. Check out the website, the flat earth Files dot com, and have a great rest of your week. We'll talk to you again real soon. Next episode drops Wednesday night at eight pm Eastern time. God bless you all. Keep your head on a swivel, and until the

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