M The following presentation is a Del Margat Studios production. Welcome back to truth seekers from around the world. It's time for another edition of the flat Earth Files. I hope this podcast finds you well. This podcast is dropping on the Sunday, So hope everybody had a good weekend. And I know a lot of you took that Monday off, so you have a little bit of
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Again, it's the flat Earth Files at gmail dot com. We hope to hear from you, and shout out to everyone who has reached out and left con comments. Without any further Ado, let's get to today's special guests joining us is G. She reached out a few weeks ago and just left some really interesting words a lot of homeschool and you know, God and of course the flat Earth, and I think we're going to have a real tremendous conversation about that and many many other things. So again, without any further
Ado, let's bring G on the show tonight. Gee. How are you Hi? I'm good, How are you doing good? It's real great to have you, and again thanks for joining us. And i'd like you to go ahead, and you know, take a moment and introduce yourself to the listeners. All right, Well, I go by G, and I live in San Diego, down here by the water where you can clearly see the horizon. Every day of my life, I stumbled upon this podcast identically to
a lot of other people. I was on Spotify, and it's really interesting how I ended up there even let me rewind us a little bit. I really I really wasn't involved and even watching politics and stuff like that, and then things just got so inflamed. And you know the age, I'm in my thirties, mid thirties, and so I feel like that age you're kind of just like, Okay, you know, why isn't my voice being heard?
You really kind of realize at that point. And so I started watching stuff and yeah, it was just really disturbing what the general population is ingesting, and just the stuff that people would come up and tell me, Like when I'd see people today, oh did you hear this on the news? And I'd be like, wow, that's that's pretty crazy, and I just really wouldn't even think about how it affected them and their perception and how that effect on our society, how it's going to take a toll on all of
us, you know. So I really started paying attention to that, and then I actually started listening to Megan Kelly, like that was kind of my first Okay, I saw a couple of clips of her and they were just really sarcastic and witty, and I don't you know, it's not something I'm like gonna be, Oh, here's the facts and all that. But I just kind of like listened to it to kind of see what was going on, and then I could also kind of tolerate her reactions well on some of
the things. And then she had RFK Junior on, which this was before he was running for president, because that's a new thing, and I started checking out every interview he was on, and then I went to see his
podcast on Spotify and it was mine. It's amazing. That's I also ended up reading his book, The Real Anthony Fauci, which I really recommend everybody read because or listen to on audiobook is what I really recommend because it really shows the evidence on a timeline from somebody who really knows the facts, and
he added them all up. I mean, not just him, but he's laid it out and he's taken a huge risk to come out like that, and he started out as an attorney from what I understand from what he said, so I feel like he's kind of been able to maneuver himself into this position. So I still kind of see him as not really a politician because that's relatively new for me, the idea of him, because I think that
he was just really sounded like a truth seeker to me. Maybe not in our sense like the people listening to this podcast, but still very admirable and he has just uncovered amazing things that people really should know and need to know, and he's done the work. So I really recommend checking out his podcast on Spotify. Just look up rfk JR. So I listened to I was listening to that and then you know, the flat Earth Files picture came up, and just like so the other people, I'm like, oh man,
I can't. I don't have the bandwidth right now to take on a whole new topic right and dive into it, because you know, a lot of us we find something out and then we put our life on pause and we're just glued to figuring out information. So um, but I kept coming up and then one day I was just like, okay, you know, I'm gonna listen to it. And then, you know, I think it helps
that this isn't just about flat Earth. You know that everybody talks about things that also ties into flat Earth, and it makes it a lot more relatable, which is important when you're spreading the message to be relatable to people. So yeah, so that's how I ended up here. And you know, then I just felt like an idiot because I'm like, wow, I really didn't ask any of these questions, you know, even when I was younger.
I mean, I've always questioned everything. I've been really unpopular with adults, peers, every definitely authority because I just just for asking the question why and wanting to understand things. So anyways, yeah, so that's that's how I got here, and there's an introduction about me. I also have an interest, I guess to me a kind of unique religious background. Do you
want to go ahead and touch on that. Yeah, sure, I just feel like it's unique in the sense that I don't really hear people talking about like I haven't heard anybody that I'm like, oh, that sounds just like me. But I grew up in San Diego and my parents we were definitely
lower middle class. They were really hard workers, you know, over time, and one my mom spent most of her money sending me and my sister to a private school, and they also had a church there, so we went to church with the school every Thursday, and religion was one of the
subjects. And so to me that's always seemed really normal. And but what's interesting is now as I'm older and I try to talk with my mom about these things, she's just not she doesn't really have a connection with God, but she sent me somewhere where I have that, you know, And so that's kind of me and my kids thing now, and I keep trying to get her, you know, just come to church with me, you know,
let's just hang out for a little bit, you know. And my church, I feel like, is pretty different from a lot of people's church too. It's very formal. It's not like commanding or controlling in any way. It's very inclusive and accepting. But you go there, you sit and you listen, you stand, and you seeing, you know, and when there's musicians playing there, it's still the same thing. It's not, you know, you can't be talking under your breath there and stuff, because it's
just rude. People are really there to have their own personal relationship with God. And I feel really blessed and lucky to have grown up in that environment and have that church and everything like it was. I feel like just a blessing from from my young childhood that God set me on that path there even though you know, in my own households they could they couldn't relate to me,
and I could never you know, I was always growing up. I was always like, that's not right, you know, and I'd have fights with my parents about it, and I'd get grounded and get in trouble for wanting to give things to people or telling them that I thought that they were
being wrong and insensitive. And it's funny because now, you know, they always told me growing up, oh, you'll see you when you're an adult, You'll see And now when I talk with them, it's just like, well, yeah, that's that's who you are, and you knew you you
knew things back then, so oh yeah. So um, I feel like that that puts me like that church really sets people on the path to build a personal relationship with God, to to do God's will, to be humble, to really just give everything you can, you know, and honor God's word, and a lot of self reflection. That's what a lot of his
my pastor's sermons end with the self reflection. So I like that there's not a lot of hype, and I didn't realize how formal it was until I invited somebody and then they were like, whoa, that was a really serious service. And I was like, oh, well, I mean, huh, it's interesting. And then I went to her church and it was cool. I mean it was great. The vibe was great, and it was
really hyped up. But I just like I couldn't focus and pay attention, you know, the way that I could in the church that I'm used to going to. So anyhow, I feel like a lot of people don't necessarily have that just personal relationship with God where you it's you know, he's just literally your father, you know, like he is the one, and he is constantly telling you you need to follow my example and Jesus' example and to
self reflect and that you're accountable for those things. You know, you can repent and you can be sorry, and you're gonna make mistakes and you need to learn how to do that. That's part of it. But I feel like a lot of people are missing that, and it makes our society and our world go the way that has gone. It allows it to go that
way. Yeah, and that's a great point. And I was discussing this last night with one of my neighbors that the reflection of the morals in our country, I think are a direct reflection of where we stand as a society today. That I forget the verse. It's like Psalm seven thirteen, but that basically says a country that turns its back on God, um is going to be in for enough times. And I'm paraphrasing, I'm kicking myself because I meant to write it down, um, And that's you can tell that
our country has really turned its back on God. And they've we've put um, you know, our faith in God and just in the backseat, and we've become h just more um, you know, worked up and consumed with worldly things than we are with our spiritual things. And as we know, our time on earth, even if you live to be a hundred, that is such a short time compared to eternity, and m it is said, it's it's almost to the point where some people say, maybe, you know,
we look at our country and the direction it's going. Maybe to a certain point, do we deserve this? Because you know, our country has just turned its back on God. It's Psalm nine seventeen. It says uh. I actually did write it down. I texted to my buddy last night, and it says, hum the wicked shall be turned into Hell and all the nations that forget God, you know, and even people will pull out their dollar bill out of their wallet and say, well, look it says
one nation under God right here. Well, you know, I'm not sure who's God, you know, going back to like Nebuchadnezzar talking about you know, different gods, Whose God do they worship? Because when you see, you know, our governments, you know what they champion and what they put on a pedestal that that is not the morals that me and my family reflect. No, they're using God is what they're doing as a shield, as
a blanket, as a mockery. They're using that. So it's just a simple trick, you know, and they know what they mean, but they're not they're they're not of God in any way. You have to really fight hard to go against God that as much as they do. You know, it's intentional one hundred percent, Yeah, it is, and it's and now it's almost to the point it's like they're intentionally trying to I said this today to my wife we're getting this smoke so bad here, they're like literally choking
us. It is so brutal. And that's the second time that year that this has happened, and it's it's like they are really this is not a coincidence in my in my book, but it's just it seems like they're up in the game every time. And a lot of people say, well, you know, maybe Satan thinks or he knows that his time is short,
so it's just throwing everything he has met us. You know, that's really interesting that you say that, because I think it was just yesterday that I got an email from Cox, because I have Cox Communications for my Internet, and I got an email from Cox saying prepare yourself for internet and for internet shutoffs, you know, do for safety practices for upcoming And I'm just like, this is what they're doing. They're preparing us again, that's ridiculous.
They've never I've never gotten a thing like that. I mean, I live in California. We have we have fires here all the time. I mean some of them have impacted me greatly. Actually, when I was in third grade, my house burnt down. It wasn't from a wildfire, but yeah, so it's just devastating. But it's just crazy how they are, how they sent me that email. And it's just weird because you really don't have
to dig. You really just need to let go of everything that you you know that your mind thinks it knows, and really just look at things and just things everywhere, everything that comes to you. It just becomes much more clear little by little, and then it forms a big picture for you that you don't have to create. And that's what these people spend so much time trying to distort that image that just comes naturally. Yeah, indeed, one
hundred percent. And I will tell you that they have been telling us. It's interesting you got that from Cox. But you know, just what two three weeks ago, there was the story that you know, one senator from each you know, each state got one of these satellite phones because of this
threat that the Internet was going to be shut down. And now you're hearing about these, you know, whatever practice runs they're going to do with the Internet being shutting, you know, being shut down, that is definitely going to be one of the big false flags, whether they do in the near future or this is going to be one of the tricks they use when the next election cycle comes around. For me, it's not an if but a when they they've made it clear to us, and of course they'll blame excuse
me, Russia or China or Iran. It's everything that happens in this country is not organic or it's by the powers that be. It's intentional. Yeah, it wasn't an idea that they just woke up with a week ago. Oh no, these plans have been again. These are sorry, these are generational plans. These people, they have their plans laid out for generations and
they know the end game exactly. And you know, I started taking a look at probably you know, the first thing I probably remember is Skull and Bone Secret Society when I was really young, when I probably first had access to the internet, and I like ever since then, so I've always just known that there's these evil forces. And you know, because the stuff, the stuff that I saw back then, it was just like real raw footage because it wasn't censored the way it is now. You just find stuff,
people shared everything. I mean, man, I missed the old and it I mean it was it was a crazy place. But you know, this having to dig and just getting little tiny end pieces of the real information because they censor it is just exhausting. I mean, that's their goal, but it just it's ridiculous. The Wild West, you could download a movie, music and you can, like you said, you can find anything without it being shadow band, without being fed a bunch of disinformation when you're looking for
something in particular. M Yeah, exactly. It's really scary, how you know. I remember when Minority Report came out, and now I just feel like that, you know, they make these sci fi movies and then they just tweak like a little bit of it from what's actually gonna happen. Yeah, you know, and it's just you know, when they release that movie, it's like, wow, that's crazy, you know. And now we're
just right around the corner from some of that most severe technology. Yeah, it's a matter of time before the pre crime people come and get me, it's for sure. Goodness. The other one is I think it was a Schwarzenegger movie with the clone. That's the other one. Remember it was the Sixth Day, I think it was called. Like it started out the quarterback when the football team died and they cloned him at halftime, and then their
pet died and they cloned them. I think that's another one of these movies where they're talent like they probably I assume they have these abilities already. I don't know, but you're right. I always talk about the truth in Hollywood and the lies of the media. M Yeah, it's actually pretty sickening, and it honestly makes me bitter towards people that are you know, the actors. I'm not saying it's all their fault. I'm just saying, like they're
the ones with the platform. I know. The people who do speak up, they just get I mean, they get messed up. Some of them get murdered. So I do understand, but it's still just, you know, when you contribute to something like that, I mean, I can't. I'm not trying to judge, but I'm just saying, I honestly think that a lot of people who are celebrities are narcissists, and so they aren't always paying attention to everything going on. They're more paying attention to themselves, you
know, and how much attention they're getting. And I've heard that from people that are kind of outcasts from Hollywood. Now, you know, it's it can't be everybody, It's I don't think it is at all, but I'm sure that there's some of them, and I feel like it'd be easier to push messages and agendas out with people like that that just want that spotlight and
that relevance. I agree, and I do believe, like you said, it's definitely not all the actresses are so many, But I do believe that the people at the very top of the food chain are involved to the point where they may even be actual CIA agents themselves. And I'm talking about like the Tom Cruises and the Tom Hanks. I'm talking about the very, very big, you know, the Harrison Ford that are at the very top of the food chain who are able to pull people in and evoke emotions and get
a particular response out of people. You know, I've heard all the stories about Tom Hanks and when the whole Q thing came out. Whether or not all that stuff is legit or not, I have no idea, but I do know that Hollywood has been used for close to one hundred years to manipulate, you know, people's minds and beliefs, and just about the topic we're here about today is you know that globe that in most movies, that's how it starts when you sit down with your popcorn and the lights go down,
like the very first whether it's like universal or paramount, there's usually some type of globe involved in the you know, in the beginning of the movie, and that's just more reinforcement into your brain that there's no way we could be on a flat earth, right, Yeah, I feel like that that is just a much more common type of subliminal programming because you think about it,
you've seen it your whole lives. You don't pay attention to it, and that's how you're like, I know the Earth as a globe because you just know it. In fact, when I asked my kids about it, that's what they said too, and I was like, did you think about it? And then they're just like hmm, you know, and they're they kind of took a step back. Yeah, So there's Yeah, it's a subliminal programming constantly. It just it does more than just let us know that the
Earth is round. It makes us shut other people down that's have anything different to say. Yeah, And that really goes to show how powerful the programming is. By the response that you get from people, like you were saying earlier, you know, people are based on that. I mean, if you bring it up people again, you can have a conversation about the moon landing being faked at work. Nobody will even think twice about it. They
love to sip a cup of coffee and talk about the moon landing. But if you bring up something that is directly related to it, which there is direct correlation with the flat Earth, the NASA, it triggers people and all of a sudden, you're you're a cuckoo, and yeah, you know you're You're the talk of the workplace because um, you know, you actually don't believe that we're on a rock spinning, hurtling through space. And then when you even try to challenge the people who you know make fun of you.
They don't even know the facts about heliocentrism. They can't tell you how far the sun the moon and the spinning and everything else. And again, granted at one time I was that guy too, But from a retrospect, what I'm trying to say is it really lends credence to this powerful program that they've developed to make people believe, you know, from evolution to heliocentrism, that you know, we're an accident and God's not really here. Yeah, evolution
that that's that really bothers me as somebody who's raising children. I really just think it's ridiculous. I think it's just meant to dumb us down to say that we evolve from monkeys or you know, even back before then. And because, like you I've heard on your podcast before, why would why would our evolutions stop here? I mean, I believe that you, your body and other living things on the you know, can adapt to their environment and
those small changes can be made. But no, I don't see evolution happening in the way that it's presented, or that entire theory or the Big Bang. And it's just really disturbing because you have all these people, you know, in my experience, I don't believe in God, you know, I just don't believe in it, and a lot of people, especially you know, teenage years I experienced a lot of people like that and even felt like
that myself at times. But it's crazy that people can shut that down so easily because it's a normal thing to do and say, well, you don't have any proof of God yet everybody is so sure about all of this science, you know, it just really doesn't make any sense. And I wish that people could just like let down their ego and take a step back and really look at things and look at the things that they think that they know, the things they've been taught, because I just feel like God made us
in a way to comprehend what is going on. Indeed, and again, all he asks is for the faith of the faith of a mustard seat. And for many people that's that's even too much. And again, people will you know, especially going back, you know you started out talking about RFK junior and vaccines. You know what we saw over the last three years.
Everyone, you know, a guy that nobody had ever met in their life personally, they put their full faith into And even if you are at minimum of vaccine skeptic, you know that according to their science, it takes ten years to to figure out and test a vaccine and these people whipped them up in six months. And people were still because a guy in a lab coat on the television told him it was safe. And that bothered me a lot. And I know, you know, I've had many people on the podcast.
You know, the whole COVID narrative woke a lot of people up. Yeah, I feel like if we start talking about the vaccine, that the entire podcast might turn into that, this entire episode might turn into that. Yeah, but I really do think, yeah, it really did weight people up. And before the whole COVID, before twenty twenty, I really felt, you know, I don't exactly remember everything that was really bothering me at
that time because the COVID came along distracted me. But I was like twenty twenty, like, this is going to be the year of clear vision guys, you know, And then and then it started all unfolding and I was like, oh, no, this is not what I thought at all. And now, in hindsight, that is what happened. Yeah, you know, God works in mysterious ways sometimes, you know, when we asked for something or a way as to see, you know, he works in different
ways, and he did. You know, these folks overplayed their hand and unintentionally, I would say, or intentionally through God's eyes, unintentionally through the hands of Satan. Many people were awakened to the evils of vaccine. And that's a personal you know, I am not a very smart person, and I can see for myself how the vaccine schedule you know, when Reagan took the vaccine makers off the hook in eighty six, and within ten years that
the schedule had almost doubled. And you know, I graduated in eighty seven, so through the seventies and eighties, we didn't have anybody in my class with autism or ADHD at all. And then you know, here we are just you know, twenty years later, after two thousand, I think it went from one in five or six thousand to now. It's like it depends on where you go to and what document your source. But one in dirty, I mean, it's what else? What other correlation? I mean,
maybe WiFi? Do you want to argue wi Fi? I guess that's the only other thing since the late eighties early nineties that's really changed the cell phone tower. Sure, there's a lot of people who think that if you look at all the improvements in radio. You know, there was radio towers that first went up in the nineteen seventeen through nineteen twenty and that was the Spanish flu. And you know, people do say that maybe these radio waves can
make people sick and you know, mess with their their being. But you know, the only other one that is the obvious one to me is the thing that is being pushed into your body, and that is vaccines. Now, one hundred percent agree with you on that, because you know, I was I forgot the name of that book now, but you did mention it. I don't know if it was on Fact Hunter or flat Earth, but it's like a contagion myth or something like that. Yeah, and that's really
interesting. And I haven't fully adopted anything that I've read from that book, but it helps you take a step back from from the narrative that because you know, it really doesn't even matter what the narrative is. I mean, it does matter, but from what I'm saying, what just what I'm saying now, it doesn't matter how big or small the narrative is. It's always a narrative. Every single thing seems to be a narrative. And that is mind blowing and it seems like too much to accept. So it's easier for
people not to accept it. But to me, that's the way it is, which is why I feel pretty alarmed that now all this attention is coming onto UFOs. I mean, nothing makes me well start believing less in something than when it starts blowing up in our face on the news. Yeah, you know, that's the next big distraction, and people will sadly, people will will grab onto it, and of course they will use it through dividen conquer as well. There'll be the people who are uh, you know,
there's UFOs and there's the other people that there's no such thing. You know that these um you know, narratives that they push and many times they're multifaceted and they have different means to the end. And I think the one that they will push it eventually. They always tell us Ronald Reagan told us, and they always dropped these hints, and you know, it'll be interesting to
see how they pull it off. A lot of people out there in the truth community believe that there were no planes on nine to eleven and that was actually a hologram. We don't know what technology the government has. In most cases, they've when they've released something to the public, it's something that they've had in their hands for at least twenty years, yes, and discussed and planned releasing and everything like that. Yeah. Yeah, just like oh go on, no, no, no, go ahead. My mind already moved
on the other thing. I just wanted to touch on our FK and then we can kind of get into your journey to the Flat Earth because you mentioned him, and I just finally got around to kind of listening to that podcast. I think it's interesting because, you know, with the Kennedy curse, he's had some bumps in his road. He had some heroin issues in the eighties, and then I think his I don't know if he was divorced at the time, but his wife or ex wife, I think she hung herself
in two thousand and ten or two thousand and twelve. But yeah, yeah, he didn't write about that. Yeah, that was just ten years ago. I think her name was Mary Richardson. If I'm not mistaken, she hung herself in twenty twelve. But um, you know that he finally went and got his juris doctor, became a you know, a lawyer. But
he was one of these environmental lawyers. And the story goes, if I recall correctly, forgive me if I'm wrong, guys, but there was this um mother who kept showing, if she like, looked up where he lived and started leaving these broke shures on his porch about vaccines, and I guess her son had autism and she, you know, believed it was from the vaccines, and she was trying to wake him up and say, hey,
the vaccines are a big problem. And basically since two thousand and five, when the lady finally got through to him, he has been really a champion. Well, I would would you say he is anti vax or would you say he is? No? Okay, that's exactly and that's what he says. And it's hard because, I mean, wouldn't that be someone's defense if they were if it was a politician, right, But you know the fact
that he has gotten vaccinated and gotten his kids vaccinated. I mean it's not It's completely reasonable to once you realize that something's not good for you, wanting to stop taking it doesn't mean you're anti that. It means you've just found
out what it really is, gotcha. Yeah, But for the I don't I don't remember hearing about that about a lady leaving the brochures at his house, but I've heard him saying multiple times that every time that he goes somewhere, there would be basically, you know, a small mob of mothers who were like, you need to look into this, like this happened to our
children. They were normal before the vaccination and how they're not. Yeah, I've heard just heartbreaking stories from people offline emails about how their child was happy outgoing ahead of the curve on like walking and talking, and then they get the vaccine and it like literally set them back. It's heartbreaking to think, you know that they believe as parents, because that's what we were taught is
you know, when we were kids, that's what we did. We got hauled off to the doctor when we were one, two, five, ten, and then if you wanted to play sports, you know you had to get your That was just you don't even think twice about it, right, you just roll up your sleeve, boom, and you're off and running again. And then you know, when I think back, the only time I ever got sick was after I got my flu shot. And one thing I
didn't realize. Just a week or two ago, I did an episode on The Fact Hunter about how the CDC compiles the flu and pneumonia under one umbrella. So every fall when you hear x amount of people died from flu and pneumonia, last year of the numbers are from pneumonia. Now, pneumonia is a bacterial problem, where they say the flu is a virus problem, so they're not even of the same thing, and it's shady. That's something they
didn't even start doing. I don't remember my research. I want to say it was eighties or nineties when they put those two numbers under an umbrella in order to push the flu vaccine. Yeah, they don't have they can. They make up their own rules, and they make them up as they make up a new rule whenever they need it, and then they call it whatever they want to call it and send that out in their report to the general
public. And to me, it seems like that they think they're so special, you know, from their special schools and their special secret societies, because that makes them feel powerful. So they feel like they can do this to us hard working people exactly. And when you talk about that a rabbit hole that if you guys want to go down, I'll be doing an episode on this in the next week or two. Have you ever heard of the Pew Research Center, Like every time the news says there was a recent poll that
was conducted by the Pew Research Center. That is kind of like the go to for the government and the big corporations where they guarantee that they will get the answers to the poll that they want to show the people. So if I'm a vaccine maker, I would hire Pew Research and I'd say, please go poll ten thousand people and see what their confidence is in vaccines, and they would cash your check and they'll come back and say that ninety six point
eight percent of the people are not vaccine hesitant. And that has a nonprofit attached to it. It. I just came across this the other day and it's just there is nothing like UM legitimate in our government or any of the entities affiliated with it. It's just a porrent, none of it, none of it at all. It really makes me wonder on a real level, how much how much of the Truman shore are we living? Yeah, that's
that's the big question. Would you like to kind of talk about how you came upon you know, the flat Earth and the Journey to flat Earth, and you touched on it a little bit, but any success that you've had sharing your knowledge and your thoughts about it, Well, I really haven't done that much research. I mean, I haven't had that much time because the first time I heard of it was when I started listening to this podcast.
UM. But I have definitely started reading some books that you recommended and then other ones that I just found. Some of them are pretty hefty, but I'm also reading like thirty other books at the same time because that's just how I do it. So I haven't gotten too far. But I feel like a lot of these books on flat Earth, a lot of them, they don't really have the an answer, definitive answer, you know. It's a
lot of like think about this and think about that. And I do remember somebody on your pot Josiah on your podcast, and he was like, you know, the true seekers they can point out the lies, but they can't point out what's true. And I totally get that. I feel like that's kind of what we're all trying to work towards, you know. But it's just the answers are just I mean, we are human beings. We have
a brain. We're not a robot. So we can't just look at things and be like this has a percentage of this much to not be true and throw it out. You know. We're like get confused about stuff and then we have empathy and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, but oh sorry, go ahead, no, no, no, I was just agreeing with you. Okay, but you know, so far, I I definitely have a small circle. I mean, I have acquaintances, but I haven't really
had conversations with acquaintances yet about this. But my typical way of relating to people is asking them questions because I like to kind of find out where they are, you know, because to me, you have to kind of meet someone where they're at find something they can relate to, you know. But for me, so far, in my small circle, I've just asked people, which way is the earth moving? Do do you feel it moving?
You know? And I don't just say it like that, you know, we will kind of start talking, and I do ask it in a genuine, you know, peer to peer type of way, but just putting these questions out there, and everybody every over and I've talked to is like, you know, that's a really good point. And that's how I felt about it too. So yeah, so far people have just been like, wow,
that's you know, that that does make a lot of sense. I don't feel like we're moving, And I mean, to me, I don't can't think of one single instance that I've ever had to calculate curvature for anything, whether it be a hypothetical situation or a real life situation. So to me, a lot of people can relate to that. I'm just like, what where how do you calculate curvature? You know? And then the fact that you use a flat matt you treat the earth as flat when you're flying
a plane. I mean, come on, it's not it's they're not teaching us. It's just like a culture. You know, they're just adding to our culture, part of that cult. And I know that's strong, but I mean that is really how things are. And they have so many layers. They have the deep, dark layers hidden on top of these little tiny tidbits and on the top of the conspiracy theorists. You know, that's really well said when you mentioned it that you know, it's all about your culture.
And in some ways it is a cult because you'd believe what you're told, just you know, at face value. Okay, but but if you till somebody look at the moon and look at the sun, does the sun look like it's ninety two million, seven one hundred and fifty thousand miles further than the moon. No, Well that's what you were told in school.
And and I tell people all the time. If you go back and look how the Department of Education was hijacked over the last one hundred years, and it actually goes back to a guy named Horace Mann in the I guess the eighteen thirties is when he really to. The eighteen fifties is when he started to say, this guy from Massachusetts that you know, the parents were slacking off, and we need discipline in these kids, and we need to federalize
education. And it's been a slow like they always do, right, it's a boiled the frog method where they, you know, more and more take control of your freedoms and your children. And now we've just and again I'm everybody has I'm not criticizing anybody for sending their children to school. You know many of mine did or some of them too. Right, we're all in different parts of our life, and you know, I completely get it.
I'm just as a fifty three old guy who who's reflecting, you know, saying that now we've just turned our children over to the federal government for twelve years to mold their minds. And if you look at the federal government today and what they stand for, it's not a great idea. Yeah, it's really not. And I mean before we had the Internet, we didn't really
we weren't able to hold these pieces together about what's going on. And since more information has come out, you know, the powers of the b had to come down harder with more ridiculousness, and that does that's overplaying their hand too. But I remember when I was a kid, I must have been like, I don't know, ten years old or something, and I was
looking in this magazine. I would always cut pictures out that I liked, and it was a picture of I have no idea what the article was because I was ten, but the picture was a bunch of people and they were in color going into underneath an arch and it's a public school, and everybody coming out on the other end was miserable and drained and all one color. And just when I saw that, even back then, I was like, oh my gosh, that's so true. It's a factory. That's a powerful
image to think about. M Yeah. I tried to find it and I couldn't find it. I bet you all find that little clip in my savings when I'm you know, in my sixties. Yeah. But yeah, So I've always felt that way, and I've always hated school. It's just draining. And I'm a really sensitive person, Like I can sense things. I can physically feel things going on around me, you know what I mean, like EMF and stuff like that. I'm one of those people that's really sensitive.
It burns me, you know, so I'm paying attention. I can't not pay attention, like shutting things off for me, it's not an option, and it's it's not easy, but this is the world you end up in. I guess the truth. Yeah, it's funny. I'm the same way. When they're high, I get the ringing in my ear. Yeah, you know, I've Oh that scares me because I have constant ringing in my ears and it's only gotten worse. And now I'm wondering what it's because
there's a tower nearby, it very well could be. Oh goodness. Yeah, that is a serious, real thing. And I didn't really start looking into it until I started realizing that it was hurting me when I had my laptop on me, and like if somebody else, like if I was sitting next to somebody and they had their cell phone in between me and them, it would be burning and I'd look I'd look down at the sensation and their phone would be there and I'd have to ask them to move it, you
know. So then they make people out like that to be crazy too. But I mean there's a whole history on big tech covering up how dangerous EMFs are. I mean, if you just look, it's another one of those things where the facts are written down and have been our science have actually been scientifically proven. But they're going to lie to your face, and you know, it's easier to believe the lie, Like it's just more relaxing to a
lot of people, right, But that's how most people are. We want to we want to fit in, right, We want to go along, to get along. We want to be a part of the crowd. You know. There's the picture, you know, there's a thousand people on one side of the road and there's the one person on the other side of the road. That's me. Yeah, And I think that's probably most of the people who are listening to this podcast is we're the We were always the person
in school that said but why? Or at work? But why? I did for a while in the army, but I got tired of doing push ups. I just did it. Why Sergeant? But yeah, I can't imagine in the military asking why, like just knowing what I do know about that environment and the way that the workflow is. Yeah, that whole situation, that's a whole other world. Really, it really is. It was. I'll tell you it was just the other day had my eight year anniversary
of retirement. I think it was this past Tuesday that the old pictures came up on Facebook and I was like, man, I'm so glad, and I pray for the men and women who are serving today because you know, we're certainly in we're in dangerous times in the world, and you know our government has That's one of the reasons I was quick to turn in my retirement papers is because they were more worried about, you know, telling people,
you know, about the woke agenda than they were learning their job or learning how to further weapon It was ridiculous. Oh wow, I didn't know that, but I have heard just from friends and of the ones that I that I do have in the military, that I've just heard things like, you know, when you get stressed out, you pull out a stress card, like there's no more training, there's no more conditioning to handle tough situations, you know, yeah, I think that started in the that's all I've heard
that started. I think in the No, No, You're good. I think it started in the two thousands at some point I heard that the stress card. And the thing is people I hope understand, is like, you know, the military isn't like another business where you're actually setting up the soldier for failure if they're introduced to a high level of stress for the first time
in their life in combat, of you've let that soldier down. Anytime we had training exercises, I made it a point to try to make them as stressful as possible and realistic as possible, because they're you know, getting yelled at by a supervisor may be stressful to some people. Having bullets fly by you are getting hit by an ied it is a whole other level of stressful.
And unfortunately, politicians, the people who have been you know, I always say, people in suits have been getting people in uniforms killed for thousands of years, and they continue to do so. Yeah. I actually had a a friend who I would watch her son while she went to work, and her husband was sent over to Iraq and he was blown up on his own base. Oh you know, it's just it's just I just don't have I just worry about any body that's like, I'm gonna go into the military.
Yeah. Period. Yeah. I discouraged my children and I'm hoping that it ends with me. And I said many times before, if if you know, a foreign entity actually steps foot on her land and threatens our family and friends, I'll be the first one to go down to my safe and you know, grab my stuff and put my uniform on and go and fight. But the days of Vietnam and Iraq and Korea, they're they're over. Not for my family. It's just not happy. Yeah. And we shouldn't
have to be in the military to stand up. And I mean there are tons of people in our country that will stand their ground because this is their country. Yeah, you know, so we don't have to be in the military. But it is sad, you know, because they do appeal to the younger people, and they'll only take you when you're young and fit and when they can, you know, make sure that your body is physically able
to be abused, you know, and pushed to its limits. But it's weird because it's I don't I don't even actually know what's happening in the military anymore. The stuff that I hear because people, the people that I know, they don't give me. They're not giving me any secrets. I've never had anybody's share any secrets, and I've never asked, because I would never want someone to get in trouble. But from what I hear about what's going on just in the day to day, it's just it seems weird. It
doesn't seem like a military terry to me. You know, it doesn't seem like people that are seriously getting ready for stuff. And it's not because they can't do it. It's because they're given different tasks to do. That's right,
You're you're in a big navy town too. Yeah. Yeah, So I've grown up with people, you know, when I was a kid, and then they joined the military, and I watched them change, you know, I watched the change of them being you know, somebody who was open to seeing the world change to somebody who really just quit questioning stuff and would just go along with everything that before I would watch them question, not even
deep deep things, just really everything. But I mean, I also do meet people from other places a lot because of the Yeah, I live really close to the water. I live about fifteen minutes from the coast. Yeah, that's the one town I've never gotten to. I've heard the cost of living is pretty outrageous there. Yeah, it's kind of just like we all joke about it constantly because I think if we did and it would just be
too overwhelming. Yeah, you know, it's it's really like every everybody there, everybody here, everybody here is just really the rent is always the topic, you know, like, I gotta do this. I gotta make my rent. You know, I can't do this. I gotta make my rent. You know, people with normal jobs, people that have graduated from college and are working these minimum wage jobs. Like it's crazy. You hear about these stories and you're just like, oh, that's unfortunate for that person.
But then you know people and you see it happen to them, and it's just mind blowing. Yeah, it sure is, and it's it's a shame.
And it goes back to what I think we were saying the other day is I think they intentionally drive the prices up because if people are working fourteen hours a day, and if both parents are working, that's the less time that they have to keep an eye on their child, and you know, that's more time in the hands of the government, and that's less time for you to do what we're doing right now, having these kind of conversations about
you know, what's really going on right questioning that the authority that they don't want that exactly. Yeah, they make it so people have no other choice but to send their children to school. Indeed, and again, you know, I know it varies by state. The rules and regulations here, I can actually I went on and did it. I can actually teach seven children and all I have to do is report attendance. That's the only requirement Delaware
has. You know, every state has their good pluses and minuses. All I have to do is from June one to July fifteenth, I just email them or I have to go onto the state website and I just input the number of days we did school and that is all they require. How often annually? Just once a year. That blows my mind. That blows my mind, Like I remember hearing you say that, and I was going to ask you that question to make sure I heard you correctly. Nope, it's
you literally a year. You're so different here. Yeah, it's so easy. You go in the state's website, you say you want to homeschool, you say what school if you're you know, if she was in school, which school I was pulling her out of, what grade she was in. Like when you first do it, it's like five minutes, just a couple of questions and then that's it. And then like once a year you just
report how many days they were in school. They don't ask for content grades anything, and you just click on promoted to the next grade, and that is it. It's literally five minutes a year worth of work. Moved to Delaware, guys. Yeah, just prepared to people saying, yeah, high income tax and the property taxes are on their way up, but no sales tax. Yeah, and homeschool is very simple, two things that are opposite
of here for sure. Yeah. Yeah. So it's just, oh my gosh, it still just blows my I'm kind of speechless that you say that, because you know, I was thinking, you know, I originally emailed you and I was like, I want to come on here and talk about talk about homeschooling and going through like me discovering stuff and figuring stuff out,
like we all are listening, and share how that's affected me homeschooling. Um, I really didn't think about talking to people that wanted to homeschool that haven't. But since since I emailed you, I've heard a few people bring that up that they want to, but it is it's a very overwhelming task to start. And then I heard you say, oh, we just have to do it once a year, and I'm like, oh no, this guy,
this guy is setting me up bad because because I was. You know, I'm going to share what my experience is the home study and it's very different. But I also live in California. And it's funny because I live in San Diego and we're so laid back here, Like people in San Diego were just like, oh, I don't I have to go to LA to meet my cousin. Like I don't, I do not want to go to La. You know. We're just like we're Californians, but we really just want to chill, you know. I mean, we have the beach here
always calling our name, you know. To look out at that flat horizon, which I've just been near my entire life, and nothing has ever looked like it's curved, even when the sun goes down. I've watched numerous sunrises and sunsets and never once. It just always looks like it's you know, I could draw a straight line on the paper. But anyhow, Yeah, California. There's a lot of terrible things to say about the laws and everything
here, and since COVID, things really really change. So it really shows me that there's a huge agenda going on to transition the population in many senses. Because I've heard you bring up McGraw hill a law, and I did some research and basically what that is. It's a company that these rich people trade around and condensed to make money off of it. I doubt that they
care about children's education whatsoever. So I mean, they might as well just do what the other people other powers that be, They might as well push their agenda in those books as long as they make money, because I think it was I think McGraw hill started out. I think the first thing they
did. This isn't a fact because I don't have in front of me, but I think the first thing they did was they published some medical journal type document, and then they just were publishing different things and then landed on the you know, doing school textbooks. And it's like, what other way to generate guaranteed income than fund than the schools. And those are your buddies too,
because that's the government who's running the schools, so why not. Yeah, they the guy James mcgrawl, it was he purchased like the American Journal of Railway Appliances. Yeah, it started out with some certain things and then it became huge. And then you know, because Lane Maxwell's dad, they bought it, Yeah, eighty nine. They had it till ninety three, and then Apollo Management which was run by Leon Black, they had it until just two years ago, and it's sold for four and a half billion dollars.
My good, education is quite the racket. Yeah, yeah, it really is. And see when I started doing home study, I think about seven years ago, it was we used to have this really big library that just contained everything that was available, all the curriculums, games, books, videos, like tons of stuff. Like if you're an educator, it's a playground. You know, you only you can only check out fifty, but
you find a way to check out more somehow. So anyways, you could choose from all of these curriculums and all that kind of stuff, and it was pretty amazing to see the volume of paper and textbooks in that place. I mean, it wasn't it was. You know, probably is is definitely as much square footage as a as a house, you know. And this
is just us, like one school going there for this. Well yeah so, um but after the uh after when when COVID started, all of a sudden, they were like, you guys have to do the common Core math. And they were already pushing that. They made you guys, they made you, they made us. You have to in California now so and I think we've been doing it for a couple of years and it's like being a
parent teaching the common Core. Um, it's like taking me. I felt like a kindergartener that didn't know math because the way that they do it and explain it. And I actually do see some benefits of it because it shows you some shortcuts, but it comes it's just like it's another way of just taking logic out of learning math. To me, it's you know, the way that we learned math, it was just simple and basic and laid things
out and you went on as you go. This way the way that they break things down and do the repetition, and I mean there's tons of videos and stuff like. People have had a real problem with it, and I see why, but I just feel like they're switching. Maybe the content itself isn't as problematic as the way it's being taught and where it might head. But anyhow, so now we can only choose from two different curriculums hoot and Mifflin and McGraw hill, and both of those are not very different from each
other. So they push it and they've taken away like we used to be able to do stuff on a home study website like we used to, which we still have, but we used to be able to have some money to Okay, my kid wants to go to this class, and they'd have a list to pick from, so you could have your kids take guitar lessons or gymnastics or whatever, and you'd have a certain amount of money to do it. They took that away. All of this happened during COVID, and yeah,
they just completely changed everything. They actually took away that building that I was telling you about, that big library with all of the stuff, all the resources, and they just dispersed it to smaller, different buildings, so it's not a big place everybody can come and it's just you know, when I've questioned this because I have a rapport with a lot of the people who work in these different places with our school, you know, and I'm just
like, what's going on, Like this is now we can't even do this, and they're like, this is what they're making us do. And that's just what I keep hearing is that they're being forced to follow a program and this is for home study, which is supposed to you know, there's at least in California, at least the in San Diego. They don't. It's not as laid back as they want to make sure that they're learning what they want them to learn. But you can't and you definitely can navigate it yourself
and make it better for your children. And I feel like that's enough reason to homeschool if you can. And this is the thing that infuriates me because you know, we saw a lot of this nonsense, you know, I think I guess it was twenty twenty one with the FBI and police showing up to a lot of the parent teacher conferences when things were kind of going crazy. The state again, it's it's everything is backwards, you know, the state should be answering to the people. But we live in a world where
people answer to the state, and that is the problem. Uh. You know I talk about at nauseum. The Declaration of Independence is very clear in the second paragraph about what you should do when a government takes control and takes
it away from the people. And you know, you look at common Core, and you know that the two biggest flags that I recall from common Core was how much money the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation had into it, and how it was wrapped up in the No Child Left Behind Act, which all these things like the Patriot Act and the No Child Left Behind Act and all these acts they sound really good until you sit down and read what's really involved
in it. And the children are certainly left behind because the quality of education has taken down several several rungs on the ladder. Yeah, not only are they left behind, they're just part of this big experiment because you know,
they have to see how their plans go on actual people. They don't know how it's going to go, so really they're being experimented on and then you know, taken away from us. And it's crazy to see how far it's gone and COVID just allow them to, you know, to take away all those rights really fast, like I've heard you talk about before, and you know, like nine to eleven and the Patriot Act. You know, not to veer off subject, but just to bring up nine to eleven, because
that's a horrific, horrific. I don't even know what to call it. It's beyond a tragedy. How many people lost their lives yeah to me, for no reason, and how many families were affected. And the fact that one person, but especially a group of people, could say, yeah, this is what we're going to do, let's go ahead and do it. I just that horrifies me. And watching the videos of people clinging to the outsides of the buildings and until they can't hold on anymore and they fall to
their death. I mean, these people, I can imagine them sitting there watching this and being like, good, our plans working. These people are terrified because they're watching their own kind die. And that's what happened. We really care, the human race really cares, and they know that. Yeah. And you know, Governor Jesse Ventura of Minnesota, he was just being interviewed by somebody I don't recall who the British guy and he said, you know every war starting, yes, thank you, thank you. He said
that every war starts with a false flag. And the reason is, you know, a president can't just say, hey, we're going to send our troops to here and there because you know this and that they need that headline, like, yeah, I still have the newspaper when I lived in Hawaii.
I was in Hawaii on September eleven, two thousand and one. We got the afternoon edition and it's got the date September eleven, two thousand and one, and you know, the big fire, flames, smoke, and you know, just the giant headline like you would see in a movie. They want to evoke the emotions because Americans wanted revenge, right, everybody,
let's go to Afghanistan. And you know I had buddies who I met down the road who feeling yeah, absolutely, I had buddies who you know, I met down the road who were recruiters on September eleventh, and they said, you know, there were lines around the block of people, you know, wanting to volunteer to join the military. So the same, the same back in ninety one. They were having a hard time convincing the American public
for Desert Storm. They brought up that fifteen year old girl to lie about the Iraqi babies being pulled out of incubators and thrown on the ground, and all of a sudden, everybody was ready to go to war. So these people are the mass. It's a weird specific story, isn't it exactially weird specific story? And not one person in that Senate committee hearing asked any questions about it. It just when she was done talking, he said, my
goodness, I just and like kind of wrapped it up. Not what date, what hospital was this, what you know, where did you hear this? Nothing? Just she told her story and that was it. It was a factual state. And it turns out that you know, she was the Kawaiti ambassador's daughter hadn't even been in Kuwait since eighty seven. Yeah, I definitely feel like that's typical. There's just so much propaganda propped up everywhere. Like I said, it doesn't even matter how big or small the narrative is.
It's always a narrative, Like there's nothing that could because if things, if there was a space where there was no narrative, the people might actually have a moment to think, and that's dangerous. So yeah, that's the last thing they want is us thinking and gathering around the tavern and having these type of conversations like you and I are having right now speaking of the like the order of rabbit holes, and obviously flat Earth is like one of the
newest ones for you. But how was the flat Earth rabbit hole different from than say, you know, nine to eleven and Kennedy and the moon landing and things like that. I feel like because with the flat Earth you have your senses to evaluate. You know, You're like, do I feel like moving? Like I'm moving in which direction is it? You know? And me when I you know, I'm at the beach and I look out at the water. You know, the water moves this way, and it moves
that way. It comes up and it comes down, and sometimes it's completely still. You know, I just don't really, So yeah, so there's a lot of things that I can check back on and assess that I'm a part of. So I feel like that's that's how it's different and probably why the lie has to be so big, because we can fact check with our own senses. Now, talking about NASA, and those productions that we that
we have access to, we're not. We can't. We don't have access to anything except for what's on the screen, right, And that's basically our government as a whole. We just have to take their word for everything, right, Yeah, until we found out that's what they were doing, because before they didn't, like they weren't being so authoritative. And then when we started asking why do we have to do it? Then things are happening where
now we're losing our rights. And you know, this is probably not a popular idea, but when you think about when I think about the Declaration of Independence and all alike, sometimes I think I'm like, did was that really ever a real thing? Is that just something that they dangle in front of us to be like America is so great, you know, and this is where where we This is a great place that we came from, you know, and we if we've fallen off a little bit, maybe we could get
back. Things are still pretty civil, you know what I mean. It's just if they're gonna just lie about everything and spend all of this money instead of actually leaving earth on film production. You know, it's just like it's I feel like everything is a lie. Why why would anything be true? Why would they ever let anything be true come out? Yeah, it's you know, I've talked about that often that there's two countries. There's the one that's on the paper that they want us to believe. Look, how free
you are. It says right here that you have the freedom of speech and the freedom of religion, and you can have your own weapons. And then there's the actual, you know, the country we live in where you know, I've had my banks taken away from me for saying certain things. My wife's been fired from her job for not taking a experimental vaccine, and I've been kicked off social media, which you know, I'm not even going to
count that because they're their own private entities. But we certainly we saw churches shut down and that that was like when I started seeing pastors getting arrested and things like that, that I thought we are in big trouble. And I was at the same time, not to be judge, I'm not, but I was a little sad to see all the churches kind of go along with the narrative too. But you know, yeah, some of them didn't. Yeah, No, I agree, there are some that stood, Um,
the pastor. I think Locke was one of them that that you know, went against the uh the narrative and stayed open the entire time, and others did too. Yeah, my pastor was actually really really vocal about it. And I don't go to church every Sunday, um, but I really love my church. And I think I got like I'm blessed every time that you have a good pastor. It's like wow, you know, it's it's life changing, it makes every blessing. It can make. A good pastor can
make or break a church. No, that's really true. And with this this the church that I go to is the one that I've been going to since I was in kindergarten. That school, part of it has closed down and opened up as a new school and closed down, but that churches remain, and every single pastor that has been there has been like somebody who truly behaves like they're all follower of Yes, somebody who's truly just really humble. It's almost like if you came there and saw it at first, you'd almost
be like, is this an act? But it's not, you know, I mean, it doesn't actually come off fake at all. It's just like so you know, humans don't typically behave that way, and everybody in the church isn't perfect, you know, and everybody in the church doesn't like the
pastor either, but the pastor is amazing. It's actually funny because when I was a kid, we had we had a pastor for a while and he was really great, Like I remember just him teaching us to be accepting and to love everybody and find a way to do it and to be giving. And that's like that was his message and all the years that I was there, and I think that's really great to me. That's my experience with Christianity,
which I know is different from a lot of people. But I remember when he left, everybody, you know, the rumors circulated, and then finally it came out in the newspaper that he had embezzled money from the church. Why. And it's just so yeah, and it's just so funny to me because I never felt upset about it. I just never once, like I just never once felt upset about it. Like I mean, if I was faced with making any sort of decision in that situation, I'd be weighing
things differently. But he was such like a kind I mean, he was a human, you know, I don't doubt that it might have happened. But to me, what he gave to us, children, everybody that I was with and on my classes, it was it was amazing And to me came from God like there was nothing weird or shady about it or anything like
that, you know, and he really just preached. So so to me, that's really funny because it's one of the only times that I'm like, well, this was wrong, but I don't feel upset about it, because usually when something's wrong, I'm like, what's going on here? Something needs to be fixed? Well, yeah, I mean I can't say enough about the importance of being a pastor, and I do think some people it can be taken lightly, like I even I've considered. I've reached out the Lancaster
Bible School and some others. It's a huge responsibility. I mean, you're talking about people's souls. Um, you have to give marriage, you know, marriage counseling and things of these nature. It's it's a lot. Uh, It's it's a it's a burden, and it's a it's a heck of a responsibility. And I have seen firsthand, Um, bad apples destroy churches. And there are few things as heartbreaking as seeing a church be split in
two. And it's sad enough, um, you know, because I grew up in a Methodist church, seeing that entire Methodist church just completely crumble, split in half and break in two. So now there's actually the progressive Methodist church that you know is LGBT pro and has they have a Methodist church in Chicago that has drag queen preachers. M I did a whole series on that on my radio show last year. And then there's the you know, the
the classic Methodist who's still Um, there's a few in our area. But it's just again, I can't say how important getting the right pastor in your church is. No, it's it's really true. And I mean I'm not sure how much control people have over that, but um, yeah, I really agree, and I've been blessed that I like, I can't believe it. I'm still just feel like the only way that these great pastors have been in this church is because there is a God, you know. It's just
amazing. And my pastor now he's like, if you want to talk to him, if you have questions, if you whatever, like he'll take time to have a private meeting with you, you know, which at first I'm kind of like, oh, I don't know if I want to have any private meetings with anyone to do with the church, you know, just because I've you know, just because things get stuck in the back of your head. But he was He's just really such a truly humble person, and all
of them have been. But when COVID happened, he started sending out emails, which he doesn't typically just do a lot, and he started sending out emails about We're not supposed to be able to be closed like this, this is an attack on God and our faith and all this kind of stuff. And he really was impassioned and wrote some really great things that like made me be like, Okay, I'm going to church this Sunday just because like this
needs to happen now, you know. And he did services outside and but you know, he made sure to like try and keep people connected, and it was really cool because, you know, I talked to him and I was like, you know, sometimes I just can't make it like I'm not feeling good. I'm somebody that has a lot of anxiety and it just physically makes you ill and so and so those times that I'm like, oh, I can't go to church because I don't feel good, you know, and
it's a bomber. But anyhow, I told him, I was like, sometimes I can't make it, you know, maybe it'd be cool for the and for like the old people who are who you know, because old people are still scared about COVID, which is a tragedy to me that that was done to them, that the old people that won't come. Maybe you can just record the sermon and so ever since then, he records his sermons and
puts them on so it's cool. I can I can play it here with my kids and we can just like do a drawing and make jokes and stuff like that, and I don't have to keep tell them to be quiet. That's good. Yeah. A lot of churches have had to adapt and overcome, and I've heard pastors talking about there they're looking at changing the way how church is run. Like I don't know about your neck of the woods,
but here, the younger generation is not in the church. When I go to church down the street, i am I'll be fifty four next week. I'm the youngest guy in the church. Yeah, that's me too. I'm always the youngest person in every church that I've been to, and I'm in my mid thirties, you know, which is relatively young. I don't want to get started on that about it you're young year old or whatever. Everyone has their own opinion, but I mean you can learn a lot in that
amount of time. So I agree, yeah, But I mean I definitely see the cognitive dissonance coming into play with people, like instead of going to church, like I'm going to join another accepting group, like you know, the trans group or whatever. You know, I actually live right down the street from where they have the pride parade, and that doesn't that doesn't bother
me in any way. Like, I mean, I'm from San Diego there it's had a really large pride movement for a long time, and I've grown up with people that didn't feel comfortable in their own skin, and I've grown up with people that were gay and buying all this stuff. It was never ever the center of attention for our conversations or anything. We learned it about them, and we accepted it and we went on. You know, it
was just never a big deal. And so for pride, I've always been like supported whoever was proud, Like why should you should be proud of yourself?
Now, let's turn into a different thing. They've taken this thing that people have worked really hard to get, the people who worked really hard for this pride, that deserve to feel this pride, and they've hijacked it and turn it into a political agenda now and forcing it in with their new world order, turning the kids to separating the kids away from their parents and away
from real thought. Which is why I feel like, you know, I just know from personal experience and from watching other people that when you don't feel like you fit in, the LGBTQ plus community is a very amazing, warm community. Like they are very amazing and warm and understanding, like they have been to hell and back and their lives still aren't great. Like they're so
accepting. And I definitely have seen people, maybe even just ten years younger than me, you know, go to high school and face these dilemmas and go through these phases and changes, and I mean they go through them rather
quickly. But I would definitely say that a lot of them land in the in the LGBTQ plus groups, you know, not because they're not legitimate groups, because they are legitimate groups, but I just feel like they need other stuff in another place to land before they start addressing their changing their identity and settling into something so drastic, I mean to say the least right. And when you said they are running with the agenda, I actually think it's your
state where I don't remember exactly how the law is written. But if you don't, basically, uh, you know, if you're if your daughter wants to become a boy and you say no, you're a girl, they can like physically take custody of the child from you. Hmm. You know, I really haven't researched that yet. Are you talking about the new thing that's happening now where Yeah, I know many states are trying to keep the parents out of the loop altogether, but oh yeah, it's it's disturbing and discussing
and this is like another big reason for homeschool. And the more people that join homeschool and they realize they're, you know, that have the confidence to do it, they're going to make it harder to do homeschool. So get in now is just what I advise, you know, And I get that it's daunting to think about this big task. You know, I can't be a teacher. I can't. Well, I guess what. You're not going to be a teacher. You're not going to be somebody that's going to be
indoctrinating your children. It's okay to teach them a different way. You still have the state standards you have to meet. Well, in your case, you really don't have a lot. Me. We have to meet every month. We have to turn in work samples. They do interviews with the kids, they do testing. It's really invasive. And there's a schedule that is
agreed upon and printed out every month for the kids to do. And I mean when I look at it, and I've gotten in trouble with the school, Like my child has gotten a strike for not turning in all of their eighty percent of their schoolwork because I told him. I was like, my kid can't do this. You cannot tell me that when you have kids in your classroom they get all this done. First of all, I've been a
student. There's no way school is so boring. I can't even deal with it as a child, even as an adult, you know, So don't tell me that these kids get all this done. And then you want me to come do this in the homeschool and environment, because homeschool is promoted as let's teach your kids learning through experiments and hands on and stuff like that. But my but California, I know, you said, my state. It's hard for me to accept that. But yeah, they just they don't they
don't make it. They don't even promote that anymore. There. There's just like such a serious agenda. So but I mean, I still think the benefits. I mean, like you said, just handing over your kids to somebody else. It's just no parent wants to do that if they really think about what comes of that, you know. Yeah, and certainly in this day and age, there was a time, you know, where things were different, or maybe I just saw it as a youngster and didn't see what
was really going on in the bigger picture. But just listening to you talk about what you have to go through in the state of California, you said something about received a strike for not turning something in. Is there like some kind of three strike rule or something. Three strikes and you're expelled from the school. And this keep in mind, this is when the schools shut down and they were doing zoom meetings because I have to tell you I've been homeschooling
for the past seven years. Guests. When I decided to give regular school a try right before coded, oh, no, twenty nineteen. Literally it was like, I think it was March of twenty twenty, and it was. It was just three weeks before they shut down and my kids are going. I mean, it was still it's still the same school that we go to, and it's a charter school, so it's not the average public school at all. It feels kind of like a private school. There's a lot
of hands on decision making because it's a charter school. But yeah, so I was like, I want you guys to go and socialize because I was worried about them staying here too much. And then boom COVID happened. And if I would have just stayed with the home study, we wouldn't have gotten that strike, we wouldn't have had that workload. Everything would have stayed, you know, just the way it was. But the kids, like my one son has ADHD and which I highly feel like this isn't just a natural
thing. I feel like whether it be vaccinations contribute to it. The society the way that children are expected to behave contributes to it. I feel like it's a it's a reaction to suppression. But yeah, so he you know, the first day I came to pick to pick up my kid and this is when he was in kindergarten, and the teacher goes, I need to talk with you, and I was like, oh, okay, so what happened? You know? I was kind of expecting something to happen because my
kids are really like, we talk about everything. There's not really anything off limits for us. We just have to be respectful. But teachers don't like that. So I was like, what is it going to be? And she goes, well, he's being really loud. He talks really loud, And I just busted up laughing because I was like, well, isn't that you know, like you're gonna have to deal with that. You're the teacher, Like, this is your job, Zeka get You're lucky that nothing else
even happened. That comes with the territory and teaching children kindergarten too. I mean like, yeah, before I had kids, I was working at a preschool and man, that was the best. That was just one of the best experiences of my life to have a group of children at your fingertips. Like if you like to hang out with kids and you like to you like when they get excited, you get excited. It is the best just being able to hype them up and you just have to keep it going, keep
them entertained, and they're good. But the school doesn't teach that, and the teachers don't do that, and teachers are really really worried about their jobs so and keeping their jobs and staying in line. So even at the charter school, which I've never which I've never I haven't dealt like, I honestly
don't think they're teaching anything like critical race theory. I don't think they're doing anything like that, just because I personally know all the people who work out the school because I've dealt with them for so long, and it's really like a bunch of moms, you know, everyone's a mother, and they all treat these kids like they're their kids. So I just don't think that that's they would do it until they had to. But if they have to,
it's going to come out, you know. Yeah, And I do think these stories that are pushed in the news are not the norm that you know, they're they're very foreign few between. There's bad apples and every profession, and you know, when something like that does happen, it gets magnified and that is the story of the day, and it's all over social media. But I think for the most part, and I've always believed that most people who go into the teaching profession do it as a noble cause and they really
want to make a difference in children's lives. Unfortunately, I think they are handcuffed to a certain extent, you know, with how much they can teach outside of you know, what's in the rules. I mean, depending on where they teach. I know there's a lot of private schools where they have a lot more flexibility, but I also know I think Josh from the Founded
Earth Brothers, I think he just resigned. He was a science teacher for I don't remember how many years, fifteen or twenty, and he said he just doesn't have if I recall correctly, I hope I'm not misquoting him. But you know, every year he has to teach the evolution theory and science and he just I don't think he could do it with good conscience anymore. I had heard him in an interview within the last two weeks, you know,
walking away from his profession because he didn't feel right. And that's somebody. You know. If more of us had like a moral compass or I should say, the moral courage like that and you know, be strong in our convictions, we'd be on our way. Yeah, I agree with you, and I believe that the moral courage is a layer on top of the moral compass. And you take away the moral courage and that compass, you start losing connection with it a great one hundred percent. The time has blown
by. I've got about three minutes left. I should probably know. Yeah, I didn't bring up any of the stuff that I was saying to bring up. It's we hit the ninety minute mark already. This is this is how the conversations always go. We'd definitely bring it back, uh, you know for a part two, Um, just for the the for people to think about. And what were the other things that you were wanting to talk about. Well, I mean I really like wanted to get more into the
home study. I really wanted to kind of do like a deeper dive in it, and um, just more details so people could you know, because I know that there's a lot of people out there that want to do it, and I really want you know, there's not a lot of support out there for it, and you're definitely not going to get it from the school
district or your school. But as a parent and as somebody who sees how all things are and where they're going, I really think that if you can homeschool, you really really should, and you don't need to be perfect about it in any sense. Meet the standards and have a good time with your kids and make your life better using it. That's you know, kind of like the basis of it, but with more detail. And then I also wanted to talk some about NASA, just like have some conversation about it.
But next time, yeah, for sure. And if people do have questions, particularly about homeschool, Gee's email will be in the show description, and it's a genonymousmailbox at gmail dot com. And don't worry about figuring out how it's spelled. I'll have the link in the show description, so you can just copy it and paste it and email away, and I will tell you. Like J said, many states will make it seem daunting, but if there's a will, there's a way, and it's just another obstacle to overcome.
It's one of the greatest decisions I've made in my life. I wasn't I was like, oh my gosh, homeschooling. It's like, you know, I'd been in the military of own businesses, and that to me was like a huge mountain to climb, and in retrospect it was really, I think the best decision I ever made. Yeah, it's it's honestly really eye opening. It will really it amazingly helps you connect with your family in a way that you couldn't do without it. And the relationship you can have with
your children is just it's not commonly. It's a it's an amazing relationship that's not common, you know, because because parents are so spend so much time away from their kids. Yeah, please, please, if you if you have any if you do have specific questions, I mean, I don't know what I could exactly answer, but I mean I'm definitely here to support and
I'm here to answer any questions that I can answer. But yeah, I would just say, if anyone's telling you anything from a school, a school district, of any sort of organization, it's still coming from some level of agenda because they're all just making money. So don't worry about doing it the way they say. I know that sounds terrible, but I mean, you know, just don't take all the pressure that they put on you. You've
you've got to meet their standards. You know, you have your meetings, you have your work samples, but you know you need to do you And to me, that's what I think. Homeschool is great to show people that you really can have a life with your family, you know, even if you work. People work and do homeschool too. They do homeschool when they can. How many hours of work does a child actually do in a classroom?
You know? So anyways, George, I'm not going to quit talking, so um we should probably if you've got to get off of here, we've probably better get off of here. Yeah you know what A sorry, I got one more thing. Yeah. Um, you know, on your podcast the other day, you're like, if you you should start to start a sell stack, you know, because everybody that listens to it could. So I went ahead and did that nice and so yeah, I can send
that to you too. And I don't have a lot of time to do like the in depth researches and having like four four sources to confirm one thing, like I like to have, but I definitely am like interested in sharing, you know, and just to have for a record for myself. So far right now I have on there on from YouTube, I linked a free audiobook of nineteen eighty four and then also the what's his name? The something Edward Griffin? Oh g Edward Griffin. I just yeah, I just forty
two minutes ago. He's our classic audio of the night. He interviewed Norman Dodd. It's a great about a fifty minute interview that's on my classic audio tonight. It's interesting you mentioned his name. Oh cool, yeah, yeah, I'll have to check that out. Yeah you know, um yeah. His his talks are very long because he's got a lot to save. The way that he breaks it down is like, man, this is when you start reading that hit his book, The Creature of Zechil Island. It's tremendous.
Yeah. It's like what he starts out, like what is a bank? And the person answers and you're like, this is what we should have been learning in preschool, in kindergarten, these are the things we should have been learning. Compound interest and that a bank only is required to physically hold ten percent of its deposits. That's it. So if you're working why banks collapse, that's why. Yeah, and yeah, that's a whole nother conversation.
But I did also find on YouTube it it's cut up into four different pieces, so there's parts one through four because it's like a twenty four hour audio book anywhere you look. But yeah, it's there, you know, so people can have access to it for free, because I think that's really important. And with these older books, a lot of times you can find them. So I plan on posting stuff like that and then just also health stuff and RFK junior stuff because I'm really interested in like what we can do,
you know, what influence do we have on our own lives? So well, Q gee, it's been wrong. Initially, it's been great one
of the letters. Yeah, it's been great to meet you finally in person, and I had a great conversation, and you know, we have some of the same passions with education and to the listeners, listen if they're If you live in a state with your Cronian rules, like California or Washington State, find like minded people in your community and get on your state representatives and make them change the laws, because they're your children and you should be the
one that says you know how and what they are taught. So hopefully this inspires people to do exactly that. Gee, thank you so much for your time. It was really great to meet you. Thank you so much, and thank you so much for your platform. Absolutely, and God bless everyone. Have a wonderful week and happy fourth and until next time, we will see