Episode 36: Flat Earth Conversation with Tristan

M The following presentation isn't now Marve Studios Production. Welcome back truth seekers from around the world. It is time for another edition of the Flat Earth Files. I'm your host is always George high so hope everybody has been doing well. It's episode thirty six, and standing by joining us momentarily is Tristan joining us from Vancouver, Canada. But before we get started, just reminder our email address if you'd like to reach out like Tristan and so many others have,

it is the flat earth Files at gmail dot com. Again, it is the flat earth Files at gmail dot com, and please stop by the website. We have a forum, a chat room where you can interact with like minded people, and it is of course the flat earth Files dot com. Without any further ado, let's jump right into it as we record on this Saturday afternoon. We welcome Tristan. It's finally nice. We've been going back and forth. I guess we're about the last ten days or so when

it's a pleasure to finally meet you. Tristan. How are you, sir? I'm doing great, George, thank you so much for having me on. This is as I was saying prior to us starting this. I've been listening to you for the last two weeks every single day at work, and

it feels pretty surreal to be on here with you right now. I'm very grateful thank you for having me well, like I was telling you as well, I appreciate you having you on. And this is what really makes I think this podcast special is having people on and share their their thoughts, their ideals, there their awakenings, and I think it really does resonate with so many people. So thank you for taking the time and thank you for reaching

out. So, without any further ado, why don't you introduce yourself to the audience for sure. My name is Tristan. I live in Vancouver, in British Columbia, Canada, and yes, justin Trudeau. We'll get into that. I'm a twenty seven year old oldest son or eldest son. I recently had my firstborn child, which is my daughter. She's seven months old, and I guess I've been interested in the truth of the reality my whole life. Ever since a little boy, I've always wanted to learn more and

just been very curious about the world around us. I was raised as a Christian and then I guess eventually, maybe around grade nine ten, I started becoming not too smart for my own good, but thinking I was above God and thinking that knowledge was out there that I could just procure on my own.

And I kind of started going down into the Mystery Schools of Egypt and reading a manly p Hall around grade ten and started thinking I was like really intellectual and deviated away from Christianity. I thought that was just like, oh, my parents raised me that way, but they don't know the kind of knowledge I know. And I was almost like not corrupted, but maybe maybe I was corrupted in a way of trying to find too much knowledge and kind

of even wanting to become a freemason myself. And over the pandemic especially and seeing all of the evils in the world, it made me really have a coming back to God moment of understanding that hey, these people at the top, they're all involved in satanic and occult ritualism and all of this stuff that I've been believing that, Okay, these people maybe like satanic pedophiles, like it actually seems to be the case, and if that's the case, then

there must be a God because they're doing these satanic things. They wouldn't be doing it without like being in defiance to God. So that was one of the really big things that made me come back to God. And in terms of the flat earth my whole life, I just intuitively felt that we live on a flat plane. I didn't know if it was a flat earth. I didn't really start to delve too much into it until like the last maybe five or four months, And I just always knew like I traveled a lot

as a kid, I'd never ever seen any curvature. Never made sense to me that we were rotating at the speeds that we're supposedly rotating air quotes that we're just unable to feel anything like it goes against all of our basic senses. But I was never truly able to put the pieces together. I was also deceived into believing that all flat earth there's those are probably like the crazy truths, like I don't know if I want to go down that rabbit hole.

But I always did believe that this is a flat plane. I just didn't really delve too much into it until my friend Mark I posted a picture on my Instagram story of like the old Hebrew kind of depiction with Shiel and the firmament and all that stuff. And my friend Mark, who has his own podcast, Shout out There, Risen Fallen Podcast, he sent me a couple of your episodes and immediately I became addicted and I've just been listening to

them ever since. So if thank you for connecting a lot of dots from me. And not only that, but it's really strengthened my belief in God and in the biblical Earth, and it just has increased my faith so much to connect these thoughts, So thank you. That's quite a story, and I had so many people on and that seems to be the common factor amongst all the story is it's brought people closer to God, and thank you for

sharing that. I'd like to go back to your high school days. I'm here to tell you a sixteen year old George back in I guess I would have been nineteen eighty five. The last thing I would have been thinking about was manly p Hall. So that's something that really impresses me. Were your parents the type of people that raised you to be critical thinkers and to question

everything? Or was that something something that came naturally. I think a bit of both, but maybe more so naturally because to be honest, my entire family, my parents, my two brothers, they're all they all kind of fell for the code. They're all like boosted and vaccinated. I was the

only one black sheet who didn't do any of that. Even my parents were like kind of being upset with me and upset with my wife and saying, like what about your grandparents, Like you don't care about their Like I don't want to like put shade on my family because they're good people, of course, but I was definitely like the black sheep of my family the whole my whole life. I was the first one who deviated and tried to find my

own way in terms of leaving Christianity at a young age. And I thought I was once again, I thought I was too smart for my own good, which is not a good thing I needed. Over time, I began to humble myself before God. But yeah, no, I think I was just always and I was always like rebellious and I didn't like listening to authority

and stuff like that and wanting to do it my own way. So I think that also contributed to that that that's all really interesting, and that's another thing that I think resonates with people is I've completely lost my train of thought. The guy was saying it last oh okay. As far as as the COVID narrative, that that's in the truth or community, that's a common factor

too. And I think many people out there listening to this podcast right now it's kind of shaking their head north and south, remembering the divisiveness when twenty the end of twenty twenty, early twenty twenty one came around. And I've said on my other podcast as well many times that they take every opportunity in the media to divide people, whether it's race, I mean, every single

day politics. They'll use whatever they can to divide the people. So we fight amongst ourselves, um, you know, to keep the shade off of them. And that was I can tell you that, you know, Thanksgiving of twenty twenty, when you know, everybody knew that those jabs were right around the corner, and those conversations around the dinner tables, not just here in America, but you know everywhere it was. It was a very divisive subject. And the thing, like you said, don't you care about your

grandparents? Don't you care about this person? You're you're putting this person's life at risk and in retrospect now that you know, here we are in twenty twenty three, does your family have the same thoughts on that or have have they seen the light as well? Have did they understand that the you know,

these people have overplayed their hand. They've realized that, although I don't try to at first, I guess kind of just out of my own annoyance with that whole situation over the course of the pandemic of being beaten down in a way, and I kind of like, I regret it now, but I kind of was like, oh, I told you so, like told you so, the type of thing, until I realized, like, hey,

I'm seeing all these diets suddenly, cases and stuff. I shouldn't be confrontational about that with my family, like, if anything, I should be praying for them. And they realized that they were they were wrong about the whole situation, but they're not gonna They're not like going out of the way to be like, yeah, you were right and stuff. They kind of just stopped like pushing any of that on me, and they stopped watching the news, which is the biggest thing that I'm very happy for. Yeah,

and then that is also a common tinator. Yeah, M I try not to make it too confrontational because during the pandemic I was very standoffish with my family. I felt like an outsid or almost. And even another thing that you helped me with your podcast help me with was understanding that Trump wasn't like the savior, He's another part two birds of the same feather. I definitely

fell for the whole Trump thing because at first it did seem good. This is maybe in twenty sixteen, when everything was starting to become very politically correct and they're starting to really like, I have no issue, I have gay family members and stuff. But when you push this agenda and you make trying to indoctorate the next generation, then that's when I was like really starting to have a problem with that. But sorry, what was I lost my train

of thought you had said about Trump. Yes, so that's around when all of those politically correct things and like really pushing the LGBTQ stuff that Trump came out of nowhere. He was like the one who I kind of resonated with with common sense and speaking out against all the wokeness, and I'm like, oh wow, like this is someone I can get behind. And I was really a big Trump support. Even I guess it's falling for the QA and on all that stuff I did. It's not gonna lie. And yeah,

you had a really good interview with Dustin Nemos. I've actually listened to it three times. I've shared it with a bunch of friends and family. My wife, who I got onto your podcast as well, shared it with her sisters and they love your podcast now. But yeah, I fell for the Trump reception, and I just through listening to your podcast realize that the only way is through God. That Um yeah, once again, it's it's not a race war, it's not sex war. It's a it's a class war.

And it's they want us divide it as possible. And Trump was a great um divider of course, all of its great division. But um, I know now that those are just games, those are illusions and God is the way. Yeah, that's very well said. And thank you for sharing that, and shout out to your to your wife and your family. Appreciate all the listeners. Um, you know, they played us perfectly with Trump.

It's uh, what they did was they took one of the greatest arch enemies of all time, Hillary Clinton, right, you know, the enemy of the state and just the Clinton body cout, just you know, these vile people who took over the White House in the nineties, and it's like they could have really put many people in there, and that they could have held them up as the great American hero to save the day and to drain the swamp. But all you have to do, all anyone has to do

is just look at the people that he appointed and help. No one went to jail and in effect. You know, it's still boggles my mind to this day. And I listen, I'm I don't like to come off as sounding critical. Everybody leaves their own life, and you know, I'm not

one of these guys who likes to judge. But to me, just from my vantage point, the way people you know, these are look, these are good, god fearing, red blooded Christians, Americans, but they see this guy in a way that the Bible warns us how to not whole people as God's did you get where I'm going with this? And I, unfortunately

was like that for quite some time. But as you're saying, the people who he was appointing, the fact that nothing was changing with all the exposures and oh, incoming arrest or this guy's already arrested, or Hillary's it's a clone, like the Pope was arrested, like none of these things. So it's almost like an unfortunate black pill, and like kind of thinking that things

won't change. But then if you have the Christian perspective, you know that this will change and that Jesus will return, and that it's all to make us scared and fearful. And I do believe that they for the people to Saytanic controllers or whoever they extract or negative energy, they harvest it in some sort of way, like they always want us scared and afraid, and I

understand that makes us easier to control. But at the same time, I feel like there's an energy and that maybe they're using that energy, that negative energy. That's right. I've said that many times myself. It's dual fold. It's to keep us negative, it's to drain our energy right to you know, we're not walking around with smiles. We're worried constantly about everything.

You know. I think I just mentioned on my interview last night, people expended so much energy over the last week about a guy who wore addressed and was put on the front of a butt light can. Yeah, it's like, I guess that's the next thing. The trans stuff is they've been really pushing. I've been noticing that a lot. And I also recognize that next years in an election year, so I've kind of like been hypothesizing and who knows, obviously it's just a hypothesis, but maybe they might do like some

sort of George Floyd type event but with a trans person. And I feel like they've really been ramping it up, and like, obviously next year is the election year, so who knows, who knows, but it's clearly obvious that they've been ramping it up and trying to create more division between that community and everyone else. So it's all intentional in my opinion. Yeah, these

are these are certainly crazy times. Indeed. Um The other thing I find interesting in your introduction is you've always, um, I thought that the Earth was generally flat, obviously to what shape, et cetera. But you certainly

didn't buy the ball. It's funny in retrospect, I remember vividly, and I've mentioned this before, being in fifth grade, Uh, my teachers spinning the bucket with water, saying that's gravity and me saying, well, if gravity really worked, why isn't the bucket facing out and the water holding on? That's really don't ask questions, And we were discouraged, you know, yeah, I mean kind of like, yeah, sure, but um, but I never really took the time because I was just I guess, you

know, a ten year old kid. Or however, what is at the time, Um, was there something in your life when you really realized, well, this is more than just um a hunch. I'm starting to think because of x y or ze that we do live on a flat plane. So yeah, just I don't think it happened right away, but just like kind of reflecting back on my life as a kid, just going on family vacations and being in airplanes quite often and never seeing any sort of curvature.

And then I remember, I think it was like twenty fifteen, I went my friends a pilot and he took us in a helicopter and really really trying to pay attention and see like how far and just in accordance with the whatever their calculation is for the amount of distance with the amount of curvature, Like it didn't make any sense to me whatsoever. Didn't make any sense that we

were rotating the same way. And I remember you're talking from one of your episodes about the red bull Jumper, and I never even that clicked for me, so instantly I was like, yo, the red bull jumper, he jumped up and then just landed in the same spot or whatever. If we were moving it the way that they say that we're moving, wouldn't he be like on the other side of the world or something. But yeah, just the biggest thing that was like intuitively speaking to me was the fact that there's

no curvature. I can see straight like obviously there's there's elevation changes and stuff like that, but you can't like you just see so far and it's the exact same And as you constantly um tell us about the things like the Nikon P ninety or something like that, the boats, Yeah, and the boat's going over the horizon and then if you just zoom in, they're right back there and there's far more water. So that's like, how unless it's a

flat plane, like, it doesn't make any sense exactly right. Have you tried any of the experiments yourself? And uh, well, yeah, let me ask you that first. Then I'll get to the next question. Mum, No, I actually haven't done any of those myself. Um, I'm still like relatively Just coming to your podcast has really solidified my belief in this, but I'm still relatively new to the whole flatter thing. I've always felt like it was flat, but I never tel finding your podcast really started paying

attention. And you're talking about like Operation Dominic and fish Bowl and watching those videos and just Hillary Clinton talking about breaking through the glass ceiling or whatever and all of these things. It's like something's up for sure, And I think it probably benefited you being a Christian. Like you said, you know, it brought you closer to God. But also yes, I think it brings new meaning, true meaning to the verses in the Bible. It's not just

something you're reading. It actually, well, now it all makes sense. This is actually verbatim. What is happening for sure? For sure. I actually recently went out and bought another Bible just to reread Genus because I've been fine learned, so I had to go by another one. But it's not like I'm just skimming through the Genesis in the beginning and stuff, like I'm actually envisioning it in my mind and trying to like really extrapolate the information from

the words on the text. So it's in a whole different way. Even when I'm outside, I look above now and I really feel like God is above, and I'm looking at a firmament with water above and really delving into videos of stars as if they're shimmering plasma or something, and it's really interesting. Have you ever this is something that was unique for me, And I guess you know because I'm told that you know the sixty six books of the Bible or the canon, and and that's you know, the canon, and

that's what should be. Have you taken the time to read the Book of Enoch or is that something you're stolen thinking about that? That's one of the things that I've been super interested in. I've just for my research into the

Book of Enoch, it just mainly been YouTube videos. It hasn't been anything like substantial, But that's something that I've really been interested in recently, and another thing that I felt for even though I believed that this was a flat plane, I was still always like super into aliens and fallowing for this alien deception. But with listening to your podcast, kind of understand how they phase in, phase out, and it's more so like spiritual beings, demons or

like other dimensional beings or something, or maybe even um. I saw a picture last night, you know how they call aliens extraterrestrials. That's or maybe extraterrestrial means more land or like the continents beyond Antarctica, like they come from that, like those extraterrestrial like extra land type thing. And I really, yeah, for a while fell for the aliens and UFOs from space, and I'm sorry, I forget the question. Well, now you're spot on there.

Tara, Tara means land if I'm not mistaken, extra um, so it certainly makes sense. And also I should say Tara is a girl's name of Latin and it means earth, so extra earth that makes sense if you look in Latin. So that's that's very interesting as well, and a hot topic amongst everyone who comes on this podcast when we have this type of conversations is the little Antarctic a treaty that they got going on down there. That's another thing. Since I was maybe like ten or eleven that because I've just

always I initially wanted to be an archaeologist. I wanted to like explore the world all these crazy things Indiana Jones type, and I actually wanted to school to become an archaeologist for a little bit. But Antarctica is something that really always captivated me, and it never made sense unless there was I thought it was like aliens or something like, there's got to be something there if they have this treaty that all these countries have signed for however many years that we

can't go there. And I was saying, like, it's not because it's too cold, like even if it's too cold, they'll find a way to go there. That doesn't make sense. And Antarctica has always been a big research topic for me. But one question I have for you is what are your thoughts on hollow Earth? Like, I know you talk a lot about the continents beyond, but what about Admiral Bird talking about entrances and the Antarctic

kind of stuff like that. Yeah, that's that is a I guess it's anything's a possibility, right, all these things we talk about our beliefs and theories, And with Admiral Bird, I think the big question is I mean, for somebody with his rank and admiral in the Navy to come out and make the statements he did on that television show number one, that there's land as big as or bigger than America on the other side of Antarctica. And

then if you read have you taken the time to read his journal? No, I don't know, so, so in his journal it says that I don't remember if it was an aircraft or something, but like these beings took control of his aircraft and guided him in. Yes, and they had the conversation. So I begin to one or do they Is this one of these another one of these things where they give us a little bit of truth and

then they divert us with a little bit of this fiction. It's obviously a possibility, because we know there's at least seven and a half miles deep that we can go under the Earth. What are your thoughts on hollow Earth and do you think that is there beings below? I do, I actually do. I believe that there is hollow interior to the extent of how vast it spreads, If it's the whole plane of the Earth, I'm not too sure, but I do believe that. I do believe there's a possibility of other

whether they're human type or other kind. Of senten beings, of some sort of demonic I'm not sure. I think I'm always open to the possibilities. And that's what I think really makes our world so beautiful is that we haven't discovered everything, that there's still mysteries and answers defined, and that God has made such a beautiful world than that, it's always exciting to learn more.

But yeah, I do feel like that. And I'm also I do believe that there are continents beyond um. I. I can't remember exactly if I'm sure you know, um was there like some sort of passageway that only opens certain times of the year, like in the summertime, where they can traverse through the ice and to the other continents. Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, I want to say it's March in June something like that.

And a listener had reached out to me and said, uh, you need to watch Which Pirates of the Caribbean, End of End of Days under the World, And I guess that particular movie, uh you know, I guess it shows them going through the ice wall during a certain time. It's crazy. And I've said many times they lie to us in the news, but they give us the truth in Hollywood. I've probably found more truth, you know, breaking down movies and like going back to man Pee Hall.

He said, once you you know, figure out to read the symbology and and things and numerology like comatree and stuff, that a great veil will fall upon the men. But at the same time, like you said, you don't want to be look at me, I have all this knowledge right that that that's one thing I think is truth. There's that we that can be a little dangerous walking around. You know, I know the earth is flat.

I know that now you know, Um, it should be more used as a tool to share the truth than to be you know, look at me, I have all this knowledge right for sure. For sure. Let me ask you a question that I don't know if I've ever asked anyone on this podcast, but we're into hollow Worth and you mentioned it were if you look at the maps, Um, I'm gonna pull this one up here.

I'm on looking at this picture you look at the old Hebrew underworld cultures that shows the waters above the firmament um the sun and the moon in the firmament, and then something called schill um and show is I guess you could call it hades or I think officially it's a word for the abode of the dead. Have you taken the time to look into that, and is that something

that you think falls into the whole hollow Earth deal? So I only saw that picture maybe, Yeah, I saw that picture maybe like a month ago, and it really intrigued me. But I never went too much into detail on it. But I could see how that potential potentially could be like some sort of whole Earth scenario. But I'm not too sure. I would you if you could educate me a little bit more on that, I would love to know. Yeah, I haven't taken the dive too much on it as

well. I know it's an ancient Hebrew deal. It's supposed to be even if you look at the official books. It's I'll read it right here. It says, although not well defined in the Tonic show is in this view was a subterranean underworld where the souls of the dead went after the body died, well, which you know could be intern did as hell? Right, m And if hell really interesting, if Heaven is right above us, above the firmament, then you see what I mean with that. That's all connecting.

Yeah, it's all makes sense. Yeah, and uh, it's very interesting. There was a preacher I can't pastor Kim. I think his name is um. He gives a pretty interesting scripture that talks about the connection between that and the Dead Sea. M interesting, what is the connection there? Do you think like it's directly under the dead sea? She'll oh, oh, whoa, that's interesting. Yeah. My mom and my brother actually went to the Dead Sea, so that's pretty cool. I would love to go

there. They got the float, they got to float. I've heard, Yeah, I've heard people who've gone there and they said it's pretty surreal, very quiet, because it's there's obviously most I mean, I think there's maybe sea horses living in there, but I don't think there's a lot of other, hm, living creatures amongst the dead Sea. But for sure, go ahead. I'm sorry. Yeah. So, actually I was talking to my wife quite a bit and I had some questions for you. First of all,

do you homeschool your kids? Yes? Yes, okay, so yeah, I had my first one. My wife and I were both like the black sheep of her family. She is comes from a family of six girls actually, and she's the eldest and her whole family's also vaccinated and she's not in same with me, and we're the only ones who are going to homeschool

our kids and stuff like that, our daughters completely unvaccinated. Would you be able to educate me a bit more on how you would teach your kids about flat earth, because that's something I've been wrestling in my mind a lot, like when it comes to homeschool and what do you do in terms of that and teaching them about the world we live in. Well, what we do is we say, this is what is taught in the schools, and then

we did teach them the heliocentric model. Then this is what this is how the public has taught and then we shared this is our belief and it clicked with her. Yeah, it makes sense, you know. And I've said many times if you take someone who is just never seeing the light of day a caveman and set them down and introduced the two models, I would venture to say that of the time, the person is going to side with the

flat earth model theory. I agree. I agree, Like as you always say, like why ignore what you can what your senses are telling you, like just because it says so by someone you don't even know, who has given a position of power. Like, just believe in what the senses you've been given by God and you will be able to tell for yourself. Although, as you were saying, who knows, We're just there's just theories and hypothesis. We don't know for certain, but it makes sense if you just

use your senses to what is the reality. Yeah, I'm so over believing the official stories. And again it all goes back to COVID that they way overplayed their hand. According to the President Biden, I was going to die during that winter of death. You know. He came out in November twenty twenty one and said, listen, if you don't get the vaccine, you're dead. And you know, at some point you've got to say, you

know, these people are liars. And if you take wholesale the trust of some person who's on a TV and wears a suit over what you can see feel here, then you've got to question your own judgment for sure. And these people don't care about you at all, like they don't in fact,

a lot of times they want negative for you. And another thing, I really opened my mind and my ways her eyes was well she was pregnant, and the doctors every single time like, oh, you need to get the COVID vaccine, and every single time would be like what about like you, there's no study, there's not even like two year study on what happens to pregnant women or their babies, Like why should we trust this? And then they started, as you said with your doctor, they just treat it like

subhuman pieces of shit. Yeah, and every single time like hey, like pull your mask out, like, um, these people, I don't know, it's like quotas to me it or once they get into the INN group that the others are just subhuman. I don't know, but it's it's hard to just believe whatever you see and whatever you're told. It's unique critical thinking for sure, and to question everything and also to have an open mind. Yeah, and uh it's been proven that that most definitely that there was a

quota. And UM I've said, you know, my daughter after going to the uh uh to school to become you know, working at the farm as a pharmacy tech um in twenty twenty one, Uh, they got one of these kind of ven diagrams, you know, how to encourage somebody to Um, whoa you know, you know, all for customer vaccine. They say no. You know, it's like one of these little step by steps. Um. Yes, exactly. It's like if you're a new salesman the kind

of wanted the church. If if they say no, say this, if they say yes, boom um. And it was just a very very nefarious um deal. And you know, she was young at the time. She's twenty one now, so she was nineteen, and she had the foresight to see how evil that was. And you know, after spending her own money to go to pharmacy tech school, after only I think one week on the job, she walked away. She said, I can't live with myself. I can't that you can still in your children. Yeah, be the same,

to do the same. That's awesome. Um. And it's as sad as it was because she did so well in school and put her heart into it. She was working full time and going to school and got her pharmacy tech, moved here from Texas, got hired right away, and it's just

like, are you kidding me? Manipulating people? And last night, on the last night's interview, I read the very first part of the Nuremberg Code and every single thing about it. Oh my gosh, coercion, um dress, those type of words were used directly on the human pompulation and there's a

lot of people that should be held accountable. Now. I've also received a lot of messages from people who claim that people within the government and a high end like the what in the world is her the CDC, like these people didn't take their oaths. That's how they were able to get around being held accountable for these lies. I mean, everything about this world is deception,

but that was one of the most evil things I've witnessed. And I've been to war and I've seen a lot of terrible things that the deception, the coercion that was put on the you know, the human population over the last three years, and uh, just evil, evil, evil thing, something

I didn't think i'd ever see during my lifetime. It's crazy, But I guess one somewhat good thing that came out of it was a lot of people starting to realize the people who may not if this never happened, who knows if they would ever have woken up or realized to the true reality of the people who who control us. Like a lot of people had the downtime in the lockdowns to be able to spend time on the internet. And I'm sure there's so many people, as you said, and myself too, I've been

distracted by other ridiculous rabbit holes. They give a little bit of truth, and then they also put you in other directions they But yeah, there's been a lot of people who have opened their minds and are starting to see But at the same time, I wonder if that was also part of their plan in some way, Like I don't I don't know if how to judge these people, if I'm giving them too much credit and thinking they're like twenty steps

ahead, or if they're just also in chaos and like fighting with each other. And I'm not too sure how to judge these people in charge. But I do believe that there's some good that came out of it. And also you should be very proud as a father that you raised your daughter to be like that. And it's obviously sad that she went through all that and had to walk away, but that's amazing morals that your daughter has. Yeah,

I mean, she's a better person obviously for it. She wouldn't be able to obviously live with herself if she ended up, you know, talking someone into a vaccine and they had one of these insane side effects that we've been seeing. I mean, just the other day one of the biggest actors in America, Jamie Fox, had a stroke. Yes, I saw that, and you see it every day. You see they've normalized, which is another evil, evil thing they've they've normalized you know, young people collapsing and dying.

Oh yeah, it's such adult deaths in from it. It's been happening forever. Yeah, No, mile Kardatis, that's just the same as the common bold. It's just pure evil to me. I think they now listen, they played the long game right, most definitely. They played the long game our our version of long term planning, and there's are completely different.

But something that I've started to believe in recent months is maybe just maybe they understand that these are end times and maybe they don't have a lot of time,

and it's it's kind of like one of these things. If you're watching a football gaming, you're down three touchdowns with two left, You're you're just throwing hail Mary's, doing onside kicks, doing whatever you can to try to score as many you know, take as many souls down with you as you can before time runs out, for sure, and speaking of end times and just thinking back on your interview with Dustin and also you were you were in

the Middle East, So what are your thoughts on Nimrod and giants and stuff like that. Yeah, it's it's very interesting. When I was over and I never went to Afghanistan. I was in Iraq all those deployments, and spent some time in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia and Bahrain, but never stepped foot in Afghanistan. But we've heard, uh, you know, we would be um sitting in the dining facilities in Baghdad and there would be some spec up guys coming through when we would hear the rumors in the store, worries of

the giant. I forget the name of the Candahar Giant. I believe it's called Yeah, and we heard all the stories. Maybe it's true. I mean, obviously, if you were nine to eleven truth or you've realized that the official narrative was a lie, Well, what were we really doing over there? If one of the you know, things on the checklist and Iraq was to get nim Rod's DNA, then maybe Afghanistan checklist above poppy seeds and you know those type of things. They have a ton of mineral resources.

But maybe the Nephelim's hiding in caves was one of the things on that checklist. Another thing I remember, I think it was from just listening to your podcast and then looking into it or something, but did Hillary Clinton have an email that was leaked that had her speaking on Gilgamesh or something like that? You recall, Yeah, there was two of them. One was about guild a Mesh and then there was another one about a stargate. WHOA, Okay,

that's interesting. I'll have to look into that more. Yeah, that's range. Yeah, there's two of them that there may be more, but the two that I vividly recall was about Giggle Mesh and the other one was about a stargate. And I mean, obviously, you know the Bible talks, you know, the life started where the Tigris and Euphrates meet. And most people when they see, uh, you know, pictures of Iraq. They showed the cities, they showed the desert, but that area down there

is is very lush, very beautiful palm trees. It is quite amazing. I didn't know that I'm yes, inducrinated to only believe like war zones and sand and humbes. Yeah, it's truly sad. Um. You know, at the time, you know, it's you know, a two thousand and one, I saw that the towers go down. Um, it didn't seem right. But at the same time, three thousands of America has died, and a lot you know, you just wanted revenge. It was a very

emotional time. I mean I was yeah, yeah, I was thirty two, I was stationed in Hawaii, was in the military, and um, it was very emotional, very surreal. So you did you know, as I guess, as a flawed human being, you just want revenge, right, I feel the same way for sure. Yeah. And but at the same time, you know, now that I'm older and wiser, you know, bringing democracy to a country isn't dropping thousands of bombs on peace. It's

just it's just terrible. And then you see that the same playbook being used over and over and over again. We still have troops in Syria. Um, I've known that, you know, we've on my other podcast, I've said we've had troops on the ground in Ukraine since the end of the summer, and I was vindicated, I guess two days ago when it came out and said, yeah, we sure do. And of course instead of the government being called out for for liars, you know that they throw this twenty

one year old kid who'll crazy. Yeah, this country says we get whistled lower protections that they're him under the bus and he's probably getting water boardered right now as we speak. Yeah, but no, no, just worry about Dylan mulvaney on the bud Water exactly about. These things are all intentional. These things are not an accident. And I've been saying at all for decades

there's nothing organic about this country. M Yeah, I just I guess I've been starting to really realize that even just America, just like Western What are your thoughts on China and Russia? Do you think they're also part of like we're all part of like one big thing and that's just another kind of illusion that we're all at war with each other. Do you think that these people are all the same group essentially like Freemasonry or whatever you might think it is.

For the longest time, you know, I thought, uh, you know, countries had individual sovereignty and there was good guys and bad guys. One of the things that Flat Earth helped me realize that it was all a scheme was the Antarctic Treaty. I mean, some of the countries are in that treaty. Russia is supposed to be our you know enemy, right, it's it's going back to the Cold War, this awful, awful entity and

that they just rolled into Ukraine unprovoked and they're just killing people. But we have an agreement with them down in Antarctica, exactly exactly, and it's it becomes quite obvious to me that they carry they do the same things that they use their space program to deceive and embezel money and their control. Everyone is controlled by the bankers. The big Rothschild said back in the day, I don't care who rules your country. I only care who controls the banks,

who controls the money controls the country. And that is one thousand percent factual. Joe doesn't run anything in the United States of America. Black Rock, I'm here to tell you Black Rock CEO Larry Fink has more power than just about anybody in this country for sure. For sure. Yeah, Black Rock is very interesting, and I try to explain Black Rock to people and they don't really see the significance. But it's crazy once you start to understand all

of the things that Blackrock has its handed. And I think it was the rest Shot episode I was listening to yesterday and you're saying how they also like Pixar and Universal Studios or whatever dream Works and they run everything so they can show you what you want and they want they control the media as well. But yeah, it's very interesting. Yeah, and it's no coincidence that Warner

Von Brown and Walt Disney were buddy's in. Walt Disney was a thirty third degree freemason, and of course Disney, I don't remember if it's Disneyland or disney World. They actually have a restaurant called thirty three and it's a very illegal club and there's quite a waiting list and quite the deposit to get in, and they have the whole black and white flu It's it's very much a

freemason type of deal to be able to get in the door. Actually, I do have a good question of relating to thirty three with you, So I am not too knowledgeable on numerology, but I do know that thirty three is a huge number in the occult and freemasonry. So I was wondering, what are your thoughts on Jesus dying at the age of thirty three, Like, what is the relation between Jesus's age, and then the other occult numerology that has a lot to do with it. They're all of these things are

based on numerology. I think I've mentioned recently that most people believe that Jesus died on Friday, April third, thirty three, a d in April third is the ninety third day of the year. And of course what number do they use? How far did they tell us the son is a way ninety three million miles? Oh my goodness, and then the Bible reads I don't have it verbatim in to me, but I want to say he was.

What's going on with my brain now? I'm trying to remember it was three hours after sun up, which was six am, and then he died three hours prior to sundown, which would have been three hours back off of six pm, it's three pm. So basically, he was crucified at nine am and he died at three am. Said there's your nine three again. All of these numero you know, the numerology runs very deep with NASA, it runs very deep with heliocentrism and all of the you know, the Freemasons and

all of these people, the Jesuits. They're into mockery and they mock us with the numbers and the symbols, all of it directly in front of our faces. And as you were saying with Manley P. Hall, once you start to recognize the signs and symbols and the availa will fall. And it's like, in all the movement, do you subscribe to the idea that they I don't know if it's like spells or something, but they have to show us without enforcing it, so we accept it subconsciously through like media and stuff

like that. Yes, so that they can do it without having like Karmac react or Kharmac debt or something. Yes, Yes, absolutely interesting and that that is why a lot of people say that Hollywood plays such a big role in it. That's their way of telling us, um And you have to be and I always tell people, like on my other podcast, I did a show about I exposed Alex Jones, And the one thing I make a

habit of not doing is spending time on like exposing other Truthers. I've never done that before, but I've always said, if you get to the top of the food chain, your your controlled opposition Joe Rogan controlled opposition. But at the same time, I'm not telling you not to listen to them, because exactly what you just said, they use these type of people to tell you all the things that have happened. Al Joseph said, yeah, yeah,

right. Another thing that I've been starting to notice over time, especially as a kid, like I've always been into like sci fi and that sort of stuff, and seeing like robots and star Wars and kind of post apocalyptics societies and stuff, and it makes me realize like maybe they've had the whole vision of the future, like obviously it's all planned, a lot of its planned, but and the Simpsons too and stuff like that, Like, yes, I guess they know the direction of the way society and the world will

go way in advance, and they just like plant these ideas. It's like I used to think, oh, like do they make movies and then they get the ideas and make the technology or But I guess it's it's the reverse, Like they've always had the stuff and they just slowly show you and then in the future maybe then they'll implement it. Yeah, Matt Groaning or I don't know how you say his name exactly, but the guy who created the Simpsons, of course. I think that the one that's to flip my mind

the most was the one with Bart was having. Was it a comic book or something that had nine to eleven on it? I think so it was like the Twin Towers and it's head nine nine and then and then it had the two towers next to it. Yes, that's crazy. Yeah, so for sure it's not like, oh, I'm just on a randomly job is And with that being said, coming full spectrum back to the to the flat Earth. You look at all the TV shows that, um give us the

truth about flat Earth. Look at there's a series. I've never actually seen the show, but there's uh, um like you. I'll watch a video than our research or a show called Westworld on HBO and it's these people are standing outside around this flat you know, this this society that's covered by a dome and then there's no piercer. There's so many other Um, I guess what was the big one on HBO that everybody watched with the dragons and oh

Game of Thrones with the ice wall. I never watched myself, but I hear in your podcast people mentioned and the ice Wall, so I guess that's another one. I think there was also. I don't think it was a Stephen King book that became a TV show, but they basically this whole city became was living under a Dome. And also in the Simpsons movie. While I just remember this, in the Simpsons movie, they were living under a

dome as well. So oh that's right because the baseball players hit a ball and it went through the dome, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, that Stephen King movie was actually called under the Dome. Wow. I remember watching that when I was younger with my mom and was like, oh, that's really weird, strange. Yep, And that guy is certainly he's part of the claim without a doubt, and you see his tweets and stuff these days. He's what an evil guy? Isn't that something they say, never

meet your heroes, and then you see that. I was ever a huge Stephen King guy, but I had all kinds of his books were like six inches thick, Like I remember all the kids in school back in the day reading his books. Children of the Corn and The Stand, But which, by the way, The Stand is another one of these movies that depict one of these viruses that's going to wipe out the world, right, Oh, I always another question I had to you. Sorry. You can bring up

Contagion quite a bit. And I remember watching that movie when it first came out and loved it, but I haven't taken the time to rewatch it, and I always are you bringing it up? So what kind of stuff are they showing in that you always bring that movie up? You know? I still haven't my notes on my phone one of these days. I've been saying

this for like almost a year now. I actually took the time, and it took four hours of my day, and I took notes every time there was a symbol, the three oranges, the colors of course, the opening scenes that showed that the cup being passed from person to person B to person, see, which really hammers home germ theory to people. And that's something that I still debate. I don't I don't like for someone who might be new to the truth community. I don't want to scare people off and think

that that I'm alone. But I'm one of I've if they can lie about this flat earth, you know about heliocentrism, then I think everything is fair game for sure, and that's why you should question everything. And I believe you. You brought up the point of that the ninety nine point nine percent disinfect and rate. You flip it upside down there? Yeah, Um, would you be able to go a little bit more in depth on germ theory?

Um, I would love to know more on that. Well, there's germ theory and well, I don't want to get too much into it, but what I will tell you there's called germ theory, and there's something called terrain theory, which revolves more around um, environmental environmental factors exactly. And UM, I'm gonna write that down, yep. I mean I will look into that later. And of course your milk is pasteurized, right, and that's bad for you, right? That that's that actually comes from a guy

named Louis Pastier. Um. He was around in the eighteen hundreds and he was the guy who created germ theory. Now terrain theory. Let me bring it up. It's Saturday afternoon. I'm not okay. His name was Louis ba Champ and this is the guy. It was very interesting. And let me say this. I always say, there's what I think, what they

say, and somewhere in the middle of the truth. I think it's interesting that Louis ba Champ and or I don't think it was Louis ba Champ because it's Louis past year, but but Champ, they both were going after this theory. At the same time, Pasteur's germ theory kind of went out,

which led to pasteurized milk, which isn't as healthy. We have very dear friends of ours who are Amish, and these kids are strong, they're smart, and that they're not exposed to vaccines, they're not exposed to pasteurized milk. They live naturally. And I think all of this falls into what how this whole conversation and started today with you, Tristan, is them trying to hide God right, your body wasn't made perfectly, so we're going to supplement

you with vaccines. This milk that nature gave us, it's not perfect, so we're going to pasteurize it. So if you look at like my dad died at the age of seventy four, my grandfather died at eighty, you know, so you know My family seems to live somewhere between seventy five and eighty five. When you look at the people at the top of the food chain, oh yeah, you know, another generation, an entire generation.

They live into their late nineties and even the early one hundreds. You look at every time, every time you look at that reptile who ruled England for the last seventy years. You know she lived to me ninety nine. And it's obvious. And that goes back to, you know, the Illuminati being illuminated. They know how things really work, and then they try to keep us dumbed down. That's why it was so important for them to hijack education,

and they put TVs in our houses and they dumb us down. We come home from work, we get our bud light and our popcorn, and we watched the ball games right exactly, the Bread and Circus. So again, I don't I'm at this point in my life, I'm willing to keep an open mind to just about everything for sure, for sure, and going back to kind of vaccines that are in the healthiness of the Amish people. So once again, I just recently had our firstborn child and we haven't gone

along with any of the vaccine schedule at all. And she's also going to be the first one of any of our family or any relatives we know who's going to be homeschooled. But they all think we're crazy every time we go to doctor, like, hey, like she needs to be vaccinated, she needs to be vaccinated. And I don't know if I just worry about maybe potentially one day getting a bad doctor and then trying to cull child protective Services or something. Well that they want you to be scared. And if if

they had their druthers, they would have compulsory laws passed. I mean, look back in the thirties here in the United States, they were pushing compulsory sterilization. That's crazy. So to think that they wouldn't push I mean I was sweating in twenty twenty one that they were going to push compulsory vaccination order. You know, That's why a lot of people thought, Matt, maybe this is the mark of the beach. You can't buy or sell unless you

get the vaccine, right. I was trying to think that as well. But do you believe that there's they're going to be coming soon with another pandemic or what are your thoughts on that, well, I mean, look, fauc she said in twenty seventeen that there would be one during Trump's administration. There was one. He's come out very I think three times in the last two weeks and said there'd be another one within the next year if they get an election year. Yeah, it's an election year. There you go,

bingos, it's an electioneer. And you know the people, God bless him, who were behind Trump, you know, they keep saying, you just wait till twenty twenty four, dude, they already stole an election one time. If you think that these even monsters are just going to hand power back over and play fairball again, give me whatever you're smoking, dude. So that kind of made me really not believe in any of our politics, even Canada, the same thing, like there's no way Justin Trudeau was elected again.

Like it's craziness with Justin Trudeau, and the indoctrination did run somewhat deep. I wasn't too familiar with politics when I was in university. I actually I went door to door like working with the Liberal Party for Justin Trudeau's first election, and little did I know just like how deep everything runs, and even now currently, we have an opposition guy in the Conservative Party that everyone's rallying behind as if he's like a Trump kind of guy named Pierre Olivier or

something, and I believe he's also controlled opposition. Like I don't trust him at all either. I don't try. I can't put my faith in any politics, to be honest, No they can't. And that's sorry. I was just going to go back to the whole Trump thing putting man above God. And I've been saying, the only person who can fix your life is the person in the mirror. Hoping that some white hat, white knight in shining armors is going to come down and fix everything for you is not It's

just not going to happen. And I think that's like maybe it was hijack, but just to keep those the quote unquote patriots or the people who would be willing to actually stand up more docile believing that someone will come save them instead of them being active to voice their opinions or to make a change. But oh no, we're gonna don't worry Trump. They're arresting and Trump's still in the White House. Like, bro, you have to you can't just

rely on that and I did rely on that forbid. I was like, oh, it's okay, Like I know everything will be good, like Trump's still going to do it. But seeing how the election was stolen one thousand percent and the fact that nothing changed, like what has there been any laws that have changed at all in regards to the mail in ballots? Right, I'm obviously a Canadian, so I don't know as much as maybe you do. But it seems like everything's the same, Like they're just gonna whoever they

wanted powers, who's going to be in power that it doesn't matter. I'm not saying not to vote. I don't even know. But it's not to believe that anything is different at all. It's not the exact same. Yeah, it used to be they select, we elect, but now it's I

think it's they select an elect. Your votes don't mean anything. And what you said earlier is spot on. I remember one of the mantras of Q from twenty seventeen until you know, the last couple of years, it was you know, man, I just had it on the tip of my sod, like you know, hold the line patriot, but which is basically like, you know, sit on your hands, do nothing don't worry, it's

coming. It's coming. Beatient And well, you know, when I did some research, it was the exact same playbook they used one hundred years ago in Russia, something called Operation Trust, which was this counterintelligence operation that was used in the Soviet Union to set up this fake anti Bolshevik resistance. These are the same people who are running our world today. And it's just I

was like, how do people not see this? And especially when when the whole JFK Junior is coming back, I'm like, how are you guys still even subscribing? Guys? Come on, that's just when you're so desperate, you're reaching out for so much hope, it's just come on, guys. Hillary Clinton's a clone. Don't worry. Yeah, this guy's been executed in Guantanamo and all this stuff. It's sure, but listen, when people are are in a tough place that they'll yes, and when they've been fed fear

porn after fear porne and they had they have to look to someone. And if they don't believe in card or look to God, they're going to look to whoever what humans are in power, like please save us, like you can do it. Federal Government please give us our checks. Yeah, And something I've been struggling with and has been a topic of conversation with me and

a guy I've known for forty years. We're both Christians, and you know, the Bible says we know how the story ends, right, we win in the end, But the Bible also says we don't know when that time is going to be. Yes, and a guy who is a homesteader and a prepper kind of like myself, he put out a video yesterday that really resonated with me, and I think there is a fine line of being a Christian. Well, no, let me make sure I say this right.

I don't think we can use the whole turn the other cheek forever because we just can't see it like this is end times. Jesus is coming soon. So we're just gonna, you know, allowed this filth to fester and not do anything about it. I think there is some scripture in the Bible that talks about putting on the armor of God and you fighting for for right,

for for truth and for justice and time to stand up. Yeah, And it's just, um, I don't you know, if the end isn't for another hundred years, I don't want the next four generations of my children and grandchildren to have if if you look how fast, um oh, in the last ten years, how how much our culture has deteriorated, Imagine what it's going to be like in twenty or thirty more years. That's why. So homestead or is that meaning you kind of like live off the grid in a

way and like live off your own land. Well, yeah, I mean we got a couple of lakers. We have our chickens. We have a very large greenhouse, because that's the life that my wife and I are trying to work towards right now. We live in Vancouver, super liberal, woke city, and it's getting so bad. They just legalized heroin and cocaine and a bunch of stuff. So it's like real more and more violence and homeless from all over the country or flock here. I work downtown every day in

construction, and I just see some heinous stuff. I see homeless people just blatantly just smoking crack pipes on the public transit with nobody. People are like just NPCs, They just stare. I'm like the only one who will tell them to stop or stand up and make sure it doesn't happen, but it's just getting so bad here. So our goal is to work towards the kind of lifestyle that you currently have. Well, they legalized heroin. It's crazy,

and they don't even introduce some sort of rehabilitation programs. They just under What they put out to the public is like, oh, with it being legalized, people will be less likely to be scared to call the cops if they're having an overdose. But like, I think that's maybe that'll be one thing, that'll be a good thing, but it's gonna be so many more

negatives and we're seeing it every day. So we want to move out into the countryside, have chickens, have acreage, ye live like you're currently living. And it also helps to know what you're eating because the way the DMO foods have taken over, you've got to really be careful. And obviously you know, you can't. I don't have the room for cows and everything else here, so um, you know. But but at the same time you can't control um. You know. We have our own well water, we

have our own sewers, and we've also gotten things like sun ovens. If if like we were to completely lose electricity, we would still be able to cook and debate and do things like that. So yeah, um, you know there's a we also we try not to make it a right. We try not to live in fear and constantly hoard you know, we still live our life and we have fun. And you know that's a good balance for

sure, because it's easy to fall into. Okay, like end times, you're here, I have to be always thinking about like catastrophe and always prepared and living in fear. But you're right, you have to live your life. You know, you can't just live in fear all the time or you will be easily manipulated into doing what they want you to do. Yeah, and you know I do these podcasts all the time. When when you start doing him, it's kind of like a hobby, like going down the rabbit

holes. But when you come full circle and you realize how evil the world is, it can be depressing. So you have to pull yourself out of the rabbit hole and live your life and have a fine balance between you know, seeking truth, which I mean should you should always seek the truth, But if you're spending twenty three hours a day down the rabbit hole, you're you're going to depress yourself. And I'm sure both you and I have been

in that position of just too much rabbit hole. Yeah, I remember you were saying about the things like the child trafficking or like those sorts of videos that I was like depressing or like hard to hard to watch. But yeah you can. There's a lot of evil, a lot of evil, but there's also a lot of good, and they make it seem like it's all evil. But that's when you have to turn off the news, turn off

the social media, and just go outside. Just as as an Amish people they know, like they don't you go to see an Amish community and that they're just normal, like they're not well the rest of the world's cowering in fear COVID. Like they just seem normal. You just seem like how God intended us to be. That's right. You know what the Amish people aren't doing. They're not talking about Dylan mulvaney. That's true. Um, they're

happy, they're they're on their scooters. On the weekends. There's a little place called Buylers. It's kind of like a country market. We go to sometimes on the weekends and they're always you know, the spring through the fall. They have these long tables out and they're just having a feast. All the families get together and just not a care in the world. You know that because they've excluded themselves, they realize that the way we live life.

While we may look at some things as um, you know, having a TV and be able to turn on a switch and get light instead of lighting a match, and you know these type of things, at the end of the day, um, I think that they live a lot less stressful of a life. Every time we connect with them, that they're always smiling, having a good time, and they want to you know, there's something about

community that was destroyed back in the seventies in the United States. But when they took the children out of local schools and they started bussing and things like that, everybody back I can remember being very young and the community's being very tight, and if my mom needed a cup of sugar, we didn't jump in the car and go to the store. She would hand me a cup and say, hey, go next door to Debbie's and get me a cup of sugar. And I'd walk down there and get a couple of sugar.

And like we knew every single person's name on the block, and here in today's society, it's not the same anymore. I know a lot of people they have no idea their neighbor's name or where they're from or anything. Yeah, that's I wish I grew up. And I guess it was kind of still like that when I was a kid. It was definitely not as much where I would know every single person on the block, but it's definitely swiftly

degraded in such a fast way. Like I don't know, it's crazy to say, I've lived in my current house for a little over a year. I don't even know my neighbor's names. Like there's so many houses, so many people like compacted, like it's it's sad. And I definitely agree with the value of communities and small communities and family and having these worldly things like

sure they're convenient, but they don't bring you contentment. They just make your hunger for more worldly things insatiable and that you want more and more, and you won't be content by those things. It's the simpler things in life and the community and the connections that's what will really bring you happiness, I guess yep. And about your point with the rabbit holes. You know, nine to eleven can be very depressing. I mean, three thousand people killed on

an inside job. It's just hard for any human being to fathom. And politics, all of these things can be very overwhelming. But you know, coming full circle, the flat earth is something that brings me joy to talk about. It brings me joy to go into and have these conversations because there is a lot of dark aspects, you know, in the rabbit holes, but the flat earth is one that you know when I hear the stories that

it brings people closer to the God. God excuse me. It is one of those rabbit holes that brings joy versus depressions in a lot of the others. Really like reaffirmed my faith and made me feel a lot more. Yeah, I guess less fearful and more happy in my life. And one question I had for you is, so, as you say often, is that you could talk about nine to eleven or JFK at the water and hole at

work and it's no problem. But the moment you bring up the flat earth, even with myself, and I haven't talked to my pastor about it yet, but I know he might even look at me strange because he's like a Stanford graduate and gone through the whole education system, heels and trick. But what would be what do you think are the easiest through what would you do to show someone the flatter? Like? What would be your first course of

action? Well, I guess because obviously it's it's been hijacked the Earth society, like they make us out to seem like idiots. Yep, yeah, they've played it so well, right, they have literally played it so well because exactly like you said, you can have those type of water cooler conversations and not be frowned upon. But I mean, could you imagine being a new job a weekend and hey Larry, what's up? Hey man? You

know the Earth is flat? You know, there's a pretty good chance you're gonna get passed up on promotions and things of that nature because they have they have molded your mind again through television, radio movies, to believe two things when you're born. Number One, that there's a guy whose name also has the same letters of Satan lives in the North Pole. And that the other thing that they teach you, right they hang, yeah, yeah, and

that's the North Pole. Right, that has to do with the North Pole. And then the other one is, of course that we are living on a ball. Like when you're a child, all the parents always put the little planets above their children's room, or at night they put the stars in their room for them to go to sleep, and you're taught that the world is a ball. But what's the truth about that. Antarctica so Santa Arctic planets an Arctic so one they end up telling you, oh, it's you

know, it's not real. It's just something we tell you as a child. But the other's real. Right, we really are on the ball, and we are spinning at one thousand miles per hour chasing the sun of sixty seven thousand on an axis of twenty three point four degrees, which if you subtract from a right angle, a sixty six point six degrees, which doesn't prove flat Earth. Right, these numbers don't prove flat Earth. But I think at the end of the day, when you look at the numerology,

when you look, we can see too far. The water always finds its level, water always finding always always, And it's baffling to me now that I don't like to be like you said, I don't understand how these people can't figure it out because I couldn't figure it out for almost fifty years. But when you think about again the trillions of pounds of water that the so called gravity is holding onto the ball. But a little balloon could just float away with no problem, right, So true, I can just jump right

now, I can jump up into them. Yeah, but all of this water can't move up. Yeah. There's a ride at the carnival we have called the rotor. The rotor, I think, and it just spins in circles and then the floor drops and you stick to the wall. Yep, yeah, I know that one. And it's not like certain things are not going to stick. If I take my wallet out, my wallet is going to stick to the side. It's um, you know, it's These are the things you think about once you realize the heliocentrism is a lie. Hmmm.

And um, were you saying in one of your podcasts that Ernicus was actually or was a delay, that there are actually Freemasons themselves and well there were Jesuits and actually jesuits Okay, yeah, and yologies are so bad. Um, everybody should read you've heard. Everybody knows what Morse code is right by right. Yes. So. Samuel Morse, Um, inventor of the Morse Code, was one of the preemptive painters in American history, one of

the greatest painters. A lot of people don't know that I've I've done podcasts one Samuel Morris. He wrote a paperback in eighteen thirty two warning the American people of the Jesuits taking over the world. Now, it's kind of interesting that um Adam Wi shopped on May first May Day, a big COMMU day seventeen seventy six, created the Illuminati. And I always found it interesting that just two months later our country was created and George Washington was a Freemason.

So the next rabbit hole, everyone want to go down and see if I can find any connection between George Washington and Adam wy shop, to see if this was created for what we're seeing today, this long term you know, this long arm of the law for the Vatican and the City of London and that tiny little state that resides in Palestine. Yes, yeah, that is does reside in Palestine. Yes, Well what's it called when it comes to the Vatican? What are your thoughts on? Like, I know that they

have some sort of library or something. And they also have the Lucifer telescope. I believe they do. They have the Lucifer telescope if sorry guys, If if they have, it's and I believe it's like the world's most powerful or one of the world's most powerful telescopes. If the world, which I do believe, is flat, are they using those telescopes to observe the firmament or like the local stars or what do you think something like that is used

for if there is no space in the way that they putray it. Yeah, I think they are trying to look up, maybe even to see God. Right, maybe they think they can do that. Maybe that's to me, that's how brazen these people are. Right, we could see you can see? Yes, well we can see you God. That's how that's how these people act. That's how evil these people are. Ericant yep. One thing I will tell you in all my studies, the head of the the

head of the snake lies in Switzerland. Yes, Geneva, right, yep, yea one is the one country in Europe that didn't get touched during World War Two. Well I didn't know that, but were you saying that, like where certain is it's built above it where they used to be the city of like all something Roman city. Is that where you're saying that? Or I just had a weird beep coming? Could you say that one more time?

Yeah? I can't remember if it was you or someone else who was saying that, like Cern was built over an old Roman city of like relates like a paullon or something. I remember that leave I might have mentioned that ply see if fucking oh that's right, the ancient temple for Apollo and then

of course drives right back in Nanasa. Yep, that's crazy. I don't And also when you look at all of the NASA missions and all their symbols and the names that they use for their missions and all that, like that's I guess if you're not too familiar with history and stuff like that, you wouldn't be able to see it. But if you are, like, it's very it's almost obvious, like the kind of stuff they do. And another thing too that's very strange is all the obelisks around the world. There.

Oh, he was in a central park in New York and just biking along there and seeing the obelisks from Egypt and like, what the heck crazy. A lot of people don't no that there's an obelisk right there in daily plaza where JFK was killed. WHOA, I didn't know that either. Yep. And going back to the Artemis and the Apollo, those guys are twins. I also found it interesting. You know, the number eleven is a very important number to these people, nine to eleven, eleven twenty two? Are

you know? Apollo eleven was the one that quote unquote went to the moon. I gotta smute myself here. Pollen is so bad here. Um. But Artemis with Roman numerals too, looks just like a number eleven as well. Hm, whoa, You're right strange. And I believe it was your episode with Rashad. It seems like a lot of your guests are watching the

same thing I've watched too. I got my wife into it and she now is a firm believer in the Biblical earth and stuff that's like the true history of the flat earth that YouTube and just talking about Tartari and the mud flood

and stuff like that. What are your thoughts on that? So that is something that my wife is actually further down the rabbit hole than me, and that is something I keep saying that I need to actually sit down one weekend to lock the door, close the windows, and actually go down the rabbit hole research and present it as a podcast because I've seen some videos. John Levi does some decent stuff on it. I subscribe to him after you said

it. My wife really enjoys the show. I have to listen to him on one and a half speed because he's just yeah, but what a great guy. He lives. He lives his own life. But yeah, it does seem very strange, like I don't know, I don't think those those buildings definitely weren't free floods, Like that's way too long ago, But it seems like there's a lot of the buildings around the world that would rather use some sort of like free energy conductors, and the sure you look underneath and

it goes so much farther just been covered with mud. You even see like buildings with like half of it's half of a level like concrete because it's been covered. And just very strange things. And the way that they've kind of taken over cathedrals that used to be like there's a lot of stuff, it's a lot of interesting stuff with the free energy and the energy grid system around the world and interesting. Interesting. I just wonder what happened. I can't

wait for your your one Day episode on that. Yeah, I need to get on that for sure. And something that I do that I've looked into a little bit that has really piqued my mind as well, is these World's Fairs, Yes, with the babies and the incubators. Yeah, what happened?

What your thoughts on that? It's it's very interesting. And that that I think kind of goes hand in hand with Staria where I really need to sit down and take the time, because I think the one that really resonated, that gets talked about the most, I think was the Chicago World's Fair. Yes, in the late eighteen hundreds. I mean these people were building entire cities and then tearing them down. That I mean, that just doesn't make use, that even makes sense at all. Yeah, So, how

much of our history is actually true? How much is fabricated? Um? Was ever a guy named George? I think of these things at night? Was everything really a guy named George Washington? Like? How much is true? How much is fabricated? It's very very interesting, it is it is, And I think about those sorts of things quite often as well, and even sometimes I go too down down the rabbit hole and wondering was yesterday even real? Am I just waking up today? You know right? That's like

yeah, interesting, interesting. M Well, we have really touched on quite a gambit of topics of conversation. Was there anything sure you you had on your mind that we haven't had a chance to address yet? Um, what do you think will happen with potential digital currency? Well, I think that is only a matter of time. I think in our lifetime we will see cash go away, and that is going to really really test people's limits because

listen here we are today. I've already been kicked off PayPal. I've been affected by these type of things, so I know what it's like to not be able to do certain things within the realms of digital currency. Now, if they do away with cash, the federal government is already kicking off here in the United States in July their own cryptocurrency. I forget what it's called, but that's already in beta. Eventually, I would guess. Listen their

endgame. They've said it's twenty thirty Agenda twenty thirty, So I think in the next seven years, cash will be our ip yea. And for people who say there's no way this would happen, I want you to remember a hundred years ago, FDR told every American citizen to turn in their goal. So don't think for a second that that you won't be told to turn in your cash. H Yeah, for sure, for sure yep. And then they're going to implement the social credit scores. And this has already going on

in other countries. People. There's people in China who can't get on the bus because there's social credit scores at high enough. That's interesting, And like maybe in China, like I've always I've never been to China, and I'm just kind of going off my preconceived notions, but maybe they're a little bit they've been subjected to so much tyranny and just like government dictatorship for so long

that they're a little bit more able to just go along with things. Like I could be completely wrong, but I feel like there will be a lot more pushback here in North America and maybe even my civil wars or national divorce. Who knows, but I don't know. I think we've become so complacent,

that's true. Maybe I'm gonna get a little too, because I thought I with COVID, a lot of smart people who I assume to be very smart, turned out to be just listened to what you're told types of people, which it's hard not I want to give people more the benefit of the doubt as a Christian man, but it is a little depressing sometimes to just see people who you would have assumed to be able to make critical decisions just automatically fall to authority. But once again, you know, if we were

uh not living comfortable right. You know, if you look at the countries around the world that stand up to their governments, most of them are the poorer countries. Yea. They don't have a whole lot to risk. You know, when you have people who live in a three thousand square foot house with two brand new cars and TVs. So the thought of sitting in a jail cellum is or you know, and that's these events that create like January

six, these are the events they create potensionally to scare you. Yeah, easiness, But you know, just at some point, if you know something is wrong, if something is truly evil, it becomes our responsibility to stand up and say this is yeah, exactly for sure, for sure. UM, I mean another thing. Um, so many things, so many rabbit holes. Yeah, let me ask you a question. Uh, you know, I got about ten minutes. I'd like to kind of wrap it up

on the flat earth. Have you had any success sharing the word of the flat earth there is? Is there any particular bread comes you've been able to kind of share with people that have, um, let people maybe let their guard down and look into flat Earth. Well. UM, for my wife, I've kind of to use the term red pill. I don't like using it as much these days, but I'm kind of Over the course of twenty twenty in the pandemic, I really read both her like she if she never

met me, she definitely would have been completely vaccinated and stuff. But did that and then got her. She was born and raised as a Catholic by her family, and I converted her to just like normal Christianity and more reading your own Bible and doing your own kind of thing with that and just showing her the flat earth and the firmament in the Bible itself was the big thing

that opened her eyes. But in terms of I don't think I've been doing it quite right because I've just been sending your episode one to a lot of people, and I think when they see the flatter files without me kind of talking about it first, they just maybe not as likely to click it.

So I haven't had a whole lot of success. I've been kind of lazily just sending everyone your episode one, like hey, like just listen to this, like why the lie, Like because that's everyone's biggest question, like what like all the scientists, all everyone's in on it, Like that doesn't make any sense. But I need to get better at that, at the leaving the breadcrumbs, because as you always say, like you have to let them

come to their own conclusions by just leaving the breadcrumbs. And you can't force it on anyone because like you yourself and myself, like actually I always thought the world was flat, but you said for most of your life you believed in the globe. So it's hard for someone to just change their whole view on reality because that's like a paradigm shift. That is a crazy shift in your view on the world to just do that. So I need to become

more effective at leaving breadcrumbs. And yeah, not just sending episode one, that episode one could come after we've talked about it. But I can't just send them like, hey, watch this. Yeah, yeah, it's interesting you mentioned that because I get emails often and thank you all for your emails. They're all greatly appreciated. And some people suggest you know that the term flat earth has been hijacked, and I completely get where people come from,

right, because that has a stigma behind it. But something that I also have found because people email me and say, hey, I put in the term flat earth and the search engine on you know, Spreaker, Spotify, Amazon, iTunes, wherever it is that they listen and that's how they find the podcast. So I'm worried that if I changed the title that people will not be able to find it. No, no good. That's a very good point. But yeah, it's definitely been hijacked, unfortunately, but most

things have been hijacked, So it is what it is. You've got to continue doing what you're doing, and thank you for everything you do. This is one of my this actually is my favorite podcasts of all time, and I'm very grateful that you allowed me to come on your show. You're doing a great service to this world, and I hope to do the same and just it's like a domino effect, you know, you change one person's mind to feel so enthused to potentially domino effect and change other people's views and show

other people as well. And I think I think we're coming like the fun I'm obviously only twenty seven. I haven't been on this earth for as long as you have. But I feel like, at least in the last couple of years that flat Earth has become far more prevalent and less people are more

likely to actually question about it instead of just immediate immediately dismiss it. I agree it has become less stigmatized, and I am happy to see that we are in a time frame where we can actually have a decent conversation between people. Now you still have your nail to grass tysons and people who yeah, and all these guys that just oh this guy. But at the same time they'll tell you the Felix bomb gardner one hundred and ten thousand feet couldn't see

a curvature. So again, these people that are controlled, they will tell you, they'll give you little nuggets, but at the same time they'll radiation as well. Exactly exactly one thing I forgot to ask you before we kicked off. If anybody, if if your message really resonated with someone and they wanted to reach out to you, do you have a social media or an email where people can reach out to Yeah, yeah, for sure. I can give my Instagram. UM, you can message me on there. I

guess I'll spell it. Um. It's t h A y n e j I U T s U so thane Jutsu is my Instagram and my email. You can reach out to me at is t r I S t A N m A L twenty two at gmail dot com. Thank you very much, George. I really appreciate this. I hope the one day for sure come back on. Like I still every day every day at work, I'm listening to your podcasts. I'm sharing it with as many people as I can. And this conversation was awesome. Thank you so much, George. Yeah,

and and thank you so much for coming on. It's great to people. It's great for to have folks from other countries and you know, to get their perspectives to the masses. And lastly your Instagram and your email. I'll make sure I put that in the show description. So if you want to reach out folks, don't worry about trying to go back, rewind and write it down. You start to the show description and you can copy it and

you link up with Tristan and have a great conversation with them. So I'll give you the floor, An. Did you have anything else, any closing words? Yeah? So just know that you are special. You are not insignificant. They make it seem out to be. They take you away from God at every step of the way. But you're here for a reason. You're here during these times for a reason. You're meant to make it change.

Don't sit idly if you see injustices whatever you feel is wrong, Maybe speak up on it instead of hoping the next person will, because there may not be a next person. Try to be more loving. We can all try to do that. It's obviously it's easy to preach, but it's something we can all do. And God bless you and thanks for listening. It's a great way close and again thank you for sharing your time and your message with us and for Tristan. I'm George. Guys, thanks so much for

continue to listen to this podcast. Please do share it with your friends and your family, and if you would like to come on like Tristan and did just drop me an email and we'll get with you and we will get you on the schedule. Everybody, God bless and take care. That's it for now.