Episode 232: Flat Earth Conversation with Travis from Canada

we've had here. It's been a beautiful day. So again I hope everyone is blessed in doing well as we Again again, I should say, as we begin to close out this podcast, we have another great guest, and over the two hundred and twenty some folks we've interviewed, we'd have quite a bit of folks from Canada and tonight as well from southeastern British Columbia. Travis is joining us. Travis, how are you, sir, didn't get Thanks George, how are you doing fantastic? I appreciate you taking the time on

the Saturday. I guess it's Saturday afternoon for you out there in mountain time. Why don't you take a few minutes and introduce yourself to the audience for us.

it was probably twenty fifteen or twenty sixteen. Was was when she kind of pointed out the initial the initial thing was kind of like the Pagan holidays for us, so which really drove a stake between us and a lot of family and friends and stuff to say, you know that that Christmas is maybe rooted in something that we should look into, and then Easter and and all those things. Right, so we uh, I mean it doesn't that kind of thing. You can you can try to

talk to people. They'll either hear it or they won't write they they you can't fault people for being traditionally minded. We've all been raised with Christmas and and I think for us it was just like we it was just time to kind of break away from what was comfortable.

And when you see that, you know, when Yahweh says that he doesn't want to be worshiped the way that the Pagans worshiped their gods, and we can see that a lot of the stuff that we believed and the traditions we kept even as a church, like growing up going to church, there there was Easter egg hunts on Easter, and there was there was Christmas trees in the foyer, and I just don't think at this point that those

things really belong in the faith, right. I mean, when you find out that Easter comes from Ishtar or Eestora or like all the pagan religions are, you know, they all have their own versions of the same thing, right, But you know, the Tammuz or whatever, he was born from an egg. From all these things, she was the goddess of fertility and is totally responsible for whether it's the pornography industry or all the corruption and sexual problems

that there are today in the world. It wasn't hard to realize, Okay, we need to step away from this, right. So yeah, and then kind of fast forward probably to twenty seventeen, and I had a bit of a bike accident and I had some injuries and I started to feel I got this burning sensation in my stomach, and so I at that point I went to the doctor and I saw a ten different doctors. You can never

see your own doctor. There's always duty doctors on call and all these things right, and you re explain your problem and then they would listen to you and they would all try to just prescribe you drugs. That's how we know they do things right, and they admit it, like I would have a question for them. And the one lady told me she was a duty doctor. She said, she said, Travis, I think you are giving us too

much credit. I google your symptoms when I read your when I read your report from the appointment, and I prescribe you drugs. And I don't want to hear about more than two or three problems per visit because I want you to book again. And I was like, wow.

She was semi retired, and she was very honest and was in it for the money, and then I don't, you know, I don't believe they're all like that, nurses and doctors and stuff, but you you do see that there is there's a financial agenda behind that, and not

everybody cares about your personal well being. They put themselves first, right And so anyways, I got prescribed lots of ant acids for this stomach problem that I had, and eventually, after almost a year, I got in and had and had a scope and they said that they found a polyp that was suspicious of lymphoma. Right, so right away they they booking in with chemo and radiation doctors for appointments and everything. And they I'm not joking, George. They

they didn't want much information from me at all. It was like this is what it is, and this is what you have to do, and like we need to get going on this basically, And I said, I, you know, I can't. I can't make that decision right now like I And they say, you don't have time, like we need to get going on this, right You don't have

time to look at alternative health measures. If you take high dose vitamin C or whatever, you're going to compromise your kidneys and all this stuff like, these are just local people. These are local chemo doctors from you know, Trail BC or Colonna or whatever. And it's funny because between the two meetings of the chemo doctor and the radiation doctor, the one doctor, the chemo doctor, he said, this is a blood cancer and it can't be cured with radiation. And I was like, well, then why am

I talking to a radiation doctor as well? And the radiation doctor said, oh no, you can absolutely radiate that spot and it can be cured. And I said, your two stories don't don't jive right. So between the two of them, my wife she kinda we just sort of left. And you can tell that they had this attitude like I was stealing money right from their genes. And I said to my wife, like, I like, seriously, like I feel like it's a death sentence. And she wasn't really

worried at all, which is comforting. You find when you're in a situation like that, about probably half the people that you talk to you can make you feel better, and havelf the people with what they say, they actually make you feel worse. Right, So to everybody that's going through that right now, I would encourage them to find some people that give them a good, you know, some hope and point them in the right direction, versus the people that are just worried and put that fear into you.

That's not healthy. So anyways, we kind of proceeded with my wife. I don't know what she got into with the information and the research, but she kind of is the researcher and she she I can't remember the lady's name, but she gave me this video to listen to. And the lady basically, her premise was, man cannot cure disease with medications. It doesn't matter if it's chemo or radiation, whatever.

They can't disease cannot be cured with that kind of stuff. Ultimately, the pharmaceutical industry they look at treating symptoms and it doesn't matter. There's side effects, and it's mostly side effects really. But her thing was this lady she was a doctor, and she said, you need to basically get into your Bible and you need to talk to your creator and get in line with his commandments so that you can

receive his blessings and life right. And so my wife she at that point, my friend he needed some money and he had bought this pig, and he like it was a butchered pig. It was all cut and wrapped. And I said, maybe we should just bail this friend out and give him the money and get the pig. And my wife said, she said, I don't want to get into it just right yet because I'm just kind of midway through the research. But she said, I don't want to do that. I don't think we should do that.

And I said, oh, okay, And so you know, another week went by and she kind of proposed me with this idea that it's possible that we should still be keeping these levitical dietary commands, right, And I didn't. I wouldn't say I lost it, but I you know, I reacted how we react when we find out about things that we're not comfortable with.

meat anyways. So we we looked into that, and you know, we all learn that Noah when he brought the animals onto the arc, every little kid remembers it was two by two when you think two of each channel, well it was you know, seven of every unclean and seven

pairs of every clean animal. So you look into that and it's like, well, Noah preceded Israel by hundreds of years, right, Like so if Noah knew what was clean and unclean before God ever had this covenant with Israel, so does it really make sense that he would have these dietary commands for pre Israel and then it you know, for Israel, and everybody says those commands are for the Jews. But then you know, post issue a coming and you know,

dying on the cross. Now suddenly there's like these new rules that one day when we're all you know, facing judgment Day, which is the same day for every person that's ever walked this earth, how can we kind of believe that they'll be judged differently than we will for the same you know, the same things. So for me personally, it was kind of a you know, you don't like to to change your ways. But realistically it wasn't that

big of a change. Like you basically eat You basically eat bacon, and some people have the odd shrimp ring or something, and like, no, nobody's eating owls or ravens or all the other parts of that command. Right, So

it's the it literally is basically the pork. So and then if you look at secular science, even even secular science and doctors, they'll say like seventy percent of pork, random pork samples have these dangerous parasites it's trigonosis or whatever, right, And they lots of people say they didn't know how to cook, you know, the parasites out of the pork back then and all this stuff, and it's like, no, I think you're not giving people enough credit of you know,

what they used to do and how they used to cook. So yeah, it just that was a that was the kind of first part of it all leading in. And so I did go for some cancer appointments where they did follow up scopes every six months. I think I went back for five appointments, and my this is like, it's crazy. I was in Cranbrook at the time, which is a small town twenty thousand they or so people.

And the doctor that did my my scope, he was actually a He went to this Baptist church that we attended, right and he he said, so, how did the chemo go? And I said, I didn't do any chemo. He said, yes, you did, and I said, no, I didn't. He said you did. And I'm like, I didn't, Like, I didn't do chemo. I didn't your radiation like I would know. And so he said, well, you're fine, You've been clear

every time. So so it's personal for me, Like I know, people say, like nobody wants to hear it, nobody wants to believe that those commandments can still apply to us today. But for me personally, like that's the thing that we changed and my symptoms had gone away. We weren't eating pork all the time. We did eat bacon and stuff. But I think that at this point that was in

twenty that was in twenty eighteen. My daughter, she's six now, she was she was born in the beginning of twenty nineteen, and that was kind of when I was sort of going through it all. So that was six years ago now, and I actually haven't been to a doctor since my last appointment I canceled, and I just said somebody else can have this one because I'm done showing up for these. So yeah, then at that point, George, do you want to intercede with anything? I feel like I've been talking for too long.

that's going to be a topic of conversation. But when I read that and then you think back to the word pharmachea and things of that nature, and then you hear your story of how you overcame, and you know, with this Messianic movement, which is a very fast growing movement, Like I listened to a gentleman from the Assembly of Yahweh and North Alabama and also very much a Saturday Sabbath guy and still honors the dietary laws in the

Torah that he feels is still valid and beneficial. You know, Genesis to Deuteronomy, Leviticus eleven, Deuteronomy fourteen to be specific. And you know, the more I think about it, and I ponder these things all the time, and you know, you can find scriptures if you read the ESV Bible that in the New Testament, there's almost a supporting document in the Old Testament for almost every verse. So it is something that even to myself, I've been thinking about

a lot. And then kind of going over to pagan holidays, that's something I was introduced to many many years ago, and I had a conversation with a pastor down the road who, like I guess their church attendance was almost

ripped in half. And that's you know, you look at people like Dean Odle who have the courage to talk about biblical cosmology in his church, knowing the ramifications, and apparently there was somebody at their church who said, I've refused to come to my church on Easter Sunday, right, one of the holiest days of the year, if not

the holiest day of the year. Jesus, you know, resurrecting from the dead and you know, basically starting the church, the new Church right and saving our sins and you want to look for eggs And that's basically the conversation that took place. And the traditionalists were very upset by this. They're like, it's for the kids, how dare you do this? And the Easter, you know, the pastor always got up

in the Easter bunny outfit and they took pictures. And the older I get in just the more life experience I have. It's not about being smarter or going to college. It's just about life lessons and understanding God's law. You know, there may be a place for people in downtown on a Friday afternoon to do an a hunt that maybe in them all if you want to take your son's

picture with Santa. But I noticed and it really affected me last holidays that I don't think that the traditional side of that, especially even I cringe when I see a tree in a church. And I know there's some people come on man light now, but again, you know there's still some validity. You know, just because there's a new Covenant doesn't mean you disregard the first thirty nine

books of the Bible. Right, I'm thinking, and I've been on the fence too with pork and to the fact now that I think God's telling me, I'm just like we talk about, we're just putting the blinders on because you know, breakfast is always Yeah, breakfast has always been a big part of our family. And I'm from the I'm from the mary Dell region where you know scrapple and bacon, that is like a staple. But you know, also I'm older now and you learn that you can

either please God or you can please yourself. Now, obviously you can please both, right, you can do things. It shouldn't be a burden, right, But at the same time, you know, as I get older, I'm starting to see these things like everything you mentioned today, it's been I've come across all this information and again I've been everybody, go ahead.

never that was never in any version before that. And they were talking about gentiles, they weren't talking about food, right,

kill and eat the pig. People say, like Yeshua, if he suddenly decided to say to everyone that now you can eat unclean foods, they probably would have just killed him right then and there, like he because they already had questions about him being who he says he was, and wouldn't have had, you know, the authority just come and change the laws of the father, right so to Yeah, I don't know. And you mentioned Jubileese, like I think it's Jubilees twenty three verse twenty six. Do you have it there?

book for how we're supposed to live lives. When you look at the Torah and it seems so burdensome it realistically, I think there's like maybe six hundred and thirteen commandments that you can count or something like that in the Torah, and how many of them apply to you? You're a you're not a woman, you're not a child, you're not a farmer, you're not a levitical priest. You're not you know, you're not a lot of things, but the ones that

do apply, most of them you already keep. Anyways, it literally comes down to the blessing of trying to observe. I'm not saying do it exactly the way that they had to do it then, because there's things that have changed. We don't have a temple, we don't have a priesthood, like a physical priesthood and stuff, but to observe His biblical holidays. People don't want to get rid of Christmas

in Easter. But there's seven biblical modeem which are like his holy set apart days that are part of his calendar that people are so really trying to find the right one and doesn't seem to be real obvious for anyone. So that's always a point of contention. But I think in the end, I think it that it matters less about if you happen to choose the right calendar, or you know, if your calendar is slightly different if you're on the Zadok or the Enoch or the lunar or the lunar solar or the whatever.

lead you to believe you're on the right calendar. But everybody has these stories. I think what he cares Voute ultimately is that you personally are trying to seek him and He's going to show everybody something that they can handle in the time that they're ready for it. Like I can tell you to stop eating bacon today, Georgian, I can't tell you to stop eating bacon. You need to decide for you. And it's not between me and you. It never was. It's it's between you and him. It's

between me and him. So that's just my thing with that. It's like put one vote for Torah because let's say let's say you, you know, you adopt a Filipino kid, and you've got five of your own. Is that is that Filipino kid going to come and live in your house and have a different set of rules than your native born children. It doesn't work like that, Like that kid is now your kid, and he's going to be

living under the same rules. And that was numbers fifteen where he talks about, you know, one set of laws for the native born Israel Israelite and the the sojourner, right, like that's always been how it was if it was for Noah and then it was for Israel, and Yeshua did it like if the truth is in you, he would walk just as he walked and said. And so

that's basically a lot of people, you know. Another whole segue into that is kind of like people talk about how you know a lot of Paul how he says that, you know, Jesus is the end of the law and all this stuff. And to me, whenever it seems like you can take Paul's words and contradict them with Yeshua's words, then obviously I would always choose the red letters in

the in the script. Right, it's if you know, if Yeshua says don't eat meat, sacrifice the idols, and then Paul turns around and says, well, I can eat that meat because those idols are nothing. Then it's like, well, I will just error on the side of what Yashua said, and and if it says hellal, I'll probably bow out. So that's such a big thing. Now there's a whole

section in our grocery store that says hellal foods. Right, and if it's you know, if that chicken was sacrificed to an idol, I'm not only for the reasons that it was probably injected with m RNA, but I'm gonna avoid that chicken.

And and then of course I would get to the point where I had to test it for myself and

and it turned out she was right so far. So this time I kind of flew off the handle and she gave me the two hundred proof sent a little bit of Mark Sergeant, and I listened to that stuff and I started to I think I didn't accept it, but I eventually got used to listening to her talk about it until I don't know, it was like a transition where I just maybe I just got so used to her talking to it about it with her friend and her sister and stuff that I don't know if

I just started to be okay with it, and man, fast forward a few years later, and it's like I started listening to whether it was your I didn't come to your podcast right away, but I started listening to these debates with Austin Witztt versus whoever else. Right, He's amazing hat talking about the science behind it all, and I like stuff like that. So it just after a while, I was just like passionate about it. I was like,

this is crazy. It's so crazy that we didn't see this all along, Like it's it's definitely the default is that we are not spinning and swirling, and like you know, you sit out by the river and it's just calm and glass, and there's people stuck in marbles with chopsticks and balancing on top of one another, and it's not even like it's even if it was the earth is spinning and staying at a perfectly constant speed in one direction and the atmosphere was all turning out the same,

maybe that would work, but that's not what they say, Like they say, we're spinning and we're corkscrewing, and we're going in like four different dimension of travel. It doesn't it can't work now.

whether it's heliocentrism, all of that stuff. And the second thing is if you know it in your heart that it's that we are not spinning that we should maybe build up the courage to have conversation and again the same of what you were talking about earlier. All you

can do is present this to people. I've come to the point in my life where if they're going to turn their back on me as a friend, then I guess they weren't close enough a friend, because I've got enough emails to understand that this is a very important topic. It has literally brought people to Jesus and Lord and for them to understand that he's not living in some other dimension.

you would change things. The things that matter to you, the things that matter then don't don't matter at all, and the things that never mattered to you before start to be the things that matter. And it's you kind of hope that people don't have to go through those feelings and those I shouldn't say fear, but it was. It was a scary time for me, and and that is kind of what pushed me over the edge to make some different decisions.

new houses every single day for almost six years. And you're in somebody's house for like three hours so most people don't just leave you to it. They kind of follow you around and want to make sure you're not going through their sock draw I guess or something. But they end up you end up learning a lot of really deep things about people and what they're going through. And I had so much opportunity to tell people what I was going through to and what I had been through.

And it seemed like with the Torah stuff and with even flat Earth stuff and everything, like I didn't care. I never cared about what people thought about anything, because I had my own experiences and I knew what was

important at this point. But I got more pushback from Christians than people that had no background in anything like that, especially with Tora, right, because like I say, there's this hyper Grace movement that all these churches they kind of just stick to this New Testament ideology, and and it's really hard to sit down and actually be honest with yourself and say that the creator of everything made this

set of perfect and righteous commands for his people. And then you know, a couple thousand years in decided to flip the script, give this new this new set of stuff to one guy, and suddenly, like we can we can live a totally different way now than we did before.

And it never sat never sat well with me once I realized, right, and now you can look at there's I don't mean to be a whatever of Paul versus Yeshue a type of guy, but there is a lot of have you seen the contradictions about have you wat There's a website called like Voice of Jesus dot org that I'm looking at right now, but it's.

like does does Paul change the gospel for you? Like like when Christ was here and shared his version of the gospel, and then sixty years after he died, one man comes along and says he met Ishua in the desert and he gave him his gospel. Now like Paul calls it his gospel, Like does that really make sense that issue would tell his disciples go out now and preach this and baptize people in what I have taught you.

But then suddenly there's a new guy that comes along and says like I am the the Apostle of the Gentiles and the thirteenth Apostle, and like I'm you know, I'm a teacher, and I'm all these things, but has a kind of a different like Jesus was the end of the law and everything, Like I can I can kind of share with you a couple of them if you if you are okay with it, or I don't have to if you're not.

saved totally, forgiven, totally by the blood of Christ. And then yes, she was saying, you know, we're forgiven if we forgive Romans three, he says, they are justified by His grace as a gift through the redemption which is in Christ. Jesus, for we hold that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the law. And in Romans five, he says, since therefore we are now justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved

by him from the wrath of God. And Jesus says in Matthew twelve, for by your words you will be justified, and your words will be by your words you will be condemned. Right there was I don't know. The list kind of goes on and on, and it's you know, Jesus says, like freely you were given, so freely give like and Paul talks about how you know, he says, let the elders who rule be considered worthy of double honor,

especially those who labor in preaching and teaching. For the scripture says, you should now muzzle an ox when it's treading out the grain, and the laborer deserves his wages. He says, if we are sown, if we have sown spiritual good among you, This is First Corinthians nine. Is it too much that we reap your material benefits? If others share this rightful claim upon you? Do we not still more? And Jesus says, and preach as you go, saying, the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand. Heal the sick,

raise the dead, cleanse the lepers, cast out demons. You received without paying, now give without pay. And yeah, there's just I mean, we could talk about this all day, but you can find that stuff pretty easily. You can just type in Jesus versus Paul. And it is a little bit disturbing to see that there are so many

things that appear to be contradictory. People try to try to sort of blend those things together and say, like, no, see, Paul did keep the law, he kept the feasts and stuff, and it does say things like that, But then immediately they want to turn around and say what Paul says, you don't have to do this, and and that was

that's a tough thing for me to reconcile. So, like I say, I always just if there appears to be a contradiction, I'm not going to say Paul belongs or doesn't belong or you know, whoever decided to put those books in scripture. How to like if you actually think

about is flat earth to salvation issue? Maybe not. We talk about how it brings certain people to know to know the Father and to know Christ, and but could this be like what if what if Paul came with this new gospel and it leads people away from keeping the commandments, which are the law is defined as righteousness and sin in I think first John three four says for sin is the transgression of the law. And in the Greek you look at the etymology, the word law is Torah.

I said, you could literally show one verse to one hundred people and you're going to get fifty different meanings. And it's the same whether it's letters to the Ephesians Galatians.

Even Peter says that, you know, he claims that Paul's writings are authoritative scripture, but you know, some things we struggle with and I don't want to ever come across the saying is like, that's not important, because to me, I do have some certain issues that if I hear in church, I won't go back, because I think we've come to a point that so many pastors are afraid to preach what they believe because of numbers, because of business, and I never want to be that guy, and I

already have accepted that. When I get behind the pulpit and have a congregation in front of me, I have to speak with conviction, no matter what.

and read it for yourself. And you know there's a lot of divisive topics out there right now, whether it's the little season, Once Saved, always Saved is a hot topic and things of that nature, and people will point out YouTube videos or my preacher said, but it's important that you sit down, read it for yourself and discern for yourself what that means to you. But the most important thing is to understand is that Christ, you show a died for our sins. He died for He was

dead for three days, which people missed. The whole story of Lazarus. He waited four days before he resurrected him just to prove say, you know, in the next month or so, this is going to happen to me. Don't go in there, Jesus, it's been dead for four days. I can imagine. Well, you know, so when he rose Lazarus from the dead, it wasn't it was something that already happened. I guess it was almost something like precedents

in a court case, you know, that happened. So that's why Jesus really, that's why he did that with Lazarus before he rose from the dead.

like people email me all the time. I can tell that you're sitting there, you know, listen to that guy. You don't agree, but you give him.

you would call it. I guess it really kicked off really big around COVID and you started seeing people, why is all there was there a bunch of cars there.

for brunch at the hotel, globby, restaurant or whatever. And now we see that we decided we wanted to try to keep the Sabbath. And I mean, we can argue about calendar all day long, too, not argue, but talk about but it's like the seventh Day is one of those things that people have been keeping. Certain groups have been keeping the commandments probably since the time of when Christ walked right, and we know he kept them perfectly,

So whatever you want to say. However, many days in the month, how many days in the year, there's still day one through seven start over. So has the seventh day been lost? I don't know, Maybe maybe not, but I would say we would agree that the seventh day is Saturday, right, Sunday is the first day. Seventh day

is Saturday. So we said, let's try to keep the Sabbath. Well, I had to work like every other Saturday, so I sort of approached my employer at that telecom business and I said, I, you know, we kind of would like to start following the Sabbath for our faith, and I want to see if there was some way I could get a religious exemption from this schedule or something. And it was just a flat flat out, like not a flat out no, but here's some forms and you can

try to get them to bend the rules. Whether there's like fifteen thousand employees in the company, right, so it's not happening, basically, is what I got. So I filled out all these forms, submitted them, and probably the day after I submitted them, we got an email saying, tell sorry, I just out said it. But the telecommunication business has has decided to open up some different scheduling options for

the employees. And there was five different options, I think, and it was everything from split shift through the week to like there was only one schedule that it didn't have any sad days and you had to work one Sunday per month. And so obviously I was like, wow, this is crazy that that just happened. Right at the time, it was so unlikely to ever happen, right, but it happened. I chose that one schedule Sunday ended up that shift

that I ended up picking. Like Sunday was basically in this town I lived in, like clean your truck out and like try to find stuff to do. It was the easiest, It was the easiest shift. And nobody wanted to work Sunday. Everybody had this thing about work and Sundays. And I was like, I, whatever, this is great for me because I wanted to follow the Sabbath and you made away so and.

I said, I'm not shoving anything up my nose. We did research and with my you know, previous lymphoma stuff, there was some a there was something that they the actual chemical is kind of slipping my mind, but it was saying that it was something that they sterilized the Q tips with that lymphoma was a direct side effect of whatever was on that queue tip. And so I said to my doctor, I said I need a medical exemption to not have to do this testing. And he said, Travis,

they won't let us give you an exemption. I said, who's they? He said, the College of Physicians. They won't let us give medical exemptions for these tests. And I said, well, I guess that's it then, And so that was that.

Right at that time, we decided we had already been thinking about property, but we actually sold our house to my wife's brother in town, and we bought, you know, four acres south of town and got some sheep and got some homestead going and got out of debt, and yeah, we've just been working at that for the last four years,

trying to grow as much food as we can. We live pretty close to a little farming community where they have markets and you can find all kinds of farmers that are constantly looking to get rid of their unsprayed cherries and peaches and all these things that come up every year. It's a real blessing. But yeah, so definitely

worked out for the best. And now we kind of live in the middle of nowhere and there's a rock quarry across the highway and through moving out here, I had bought an excavator and we kind of set up our whole property. And once that was all done, I had a couple hundred hours on the things. So I walked across the street there and got a job basically mining out these big landscape blocks for walls. And I've been there for four years now.

and worshiping the beast. Like to worship the beast is to participate and take part in all the things that he comes up with, right, And I definitely think this COVID shot was one of those things we saw. There's places even this small town. You couldn't you couldn't buy stuff, certain places, you couldn't go certain places, just like anywhere

in the whole world. And I don't know if you ever saw the like as a as a human, we've got DNA, and our DNA has this like double helix, right, it's like that course, your helix, And in those two strands of DNA, there's seventy two thousand genes right supposedly, so seventy two thousand and two in a helix. That's one hundred and forty four thousand, right, which is an

interesting number. So when people take the mRNA shot, they actually receive This is all things that we've read and things that we've heard from, you know, whether it was Malone or McCullough or all these people that take it or leave it. We usually leave it. But the mRNA adds a third helix to the human DNA, which is crazy to think about. But your DNA is the that's

the Father's signature on your existence. Basically you were created with this DNA and when that third helix is added, another seventy two thousand genes two hundred and sixteen thousand, right, George, you probably well, actually I've heard you talk about two hundred and sixteen thousand. It's six hundred times sixty six.

It's there's so many We know how important the numeric values and actual physical numbers are to those following the beast system, right, So just looking at every every part of that, like how many people actually took that shot for a good reason, Like well, I had to go visit my mom or my dad who was in the hospital or whatever. I get it. Like it's a hard decision to make. I told my parents, if you end up in the hospital and I need to get a shot, then I'm sorry, I'll see you on the other side.

Like yeah, and that sounds cold, but it's a decision that we made. And we actually try not to do a lot of business or have even people that have had the shot over because it's not only because of like the potential of maybe the shedding and the negative side effects. We got to you know, she's a child now, she's but she's like she's six years old. We're trying to protect her from anything that we think could be harmful to her. Right, I would expect that from any

parent that wants the best for their child. We don't completely shelter ourselves from the public, but we we try to keep away as much as we can, and realistically, like, how many deep conversations have you had with people that have had that shot since it happened? Like those people and I shouldn't talk about it quite like that because I know there's people who listen to your podcasts and

people that are whatever that have taken the shot. But they had to come to this time in their decision where they sat down in a chair and took that, Like that is a major decision. It's different than some we've all taken yellow fever or whatever, so we can go on our African missions trip or whatever it is, but it's like this one was different. It was like it was almost like there was spiritual blinders for the people that couldn't see it or wouldn't see it, and

for the other people that saw it. It's like now those people like we're kind of you can talk about anything with those people because Georgia, I don't even know you, and I will tell you anything about anything because it's it's sort of how you can talk to those people. If I feel like, if those people were okay with that shot, then the conversation's over before it started, like they just don't hear.

that you have just on a spiritual basis. And I've noticed that within certainly the last five years, and there is you know there and again there was people who who unfortunately took the jab and thank god, you know, they're healthy and they're doing okay. I'm sure they had to have some what do you call those shots that aren't the placebos right, et cetera. But it wasn't at

a minimum, it was a test. I do believe that it was to see how far they could push us and when the time comes when they dropped the hammer. I think what we saw five years ago is maybe ten percent of the pressure that they're going to apply on us.

this is a welcome. Number One, I want you to come to my church, but I also want you to know that I recognize God's law before I recognize man's law. I wanted like to set a baseline and be just upfront with these people that don't show up to my church and tell me to close because it's dangerous, there's a flu, there's a riot, there's this or that. It's you know, we saw churches get closed. Abortion clinics stayed open, the dispensary stayed open.

And then you see it's like the serpent's tongue on their logo. It's there. It couldn't even be more in your face. Right, So that's probably the third one, the blatant lack of curvature that you can buy a nine hundred dollars camera and improve nowadays. I'm sure you listen to us and wits it or whatever, and he talks about the radius of Earth is three nine hundred and fifty nine miles, which just happens to be the exact number that the human eye can resolve the like the

angular resolution of your eyes. So where you would physically in the sixteen hundreds see a ship travel over the horizon, that distance that the ship disappears is the angular resolution sort of of your eye. And the exact number of what the Earth would have to be to match up with that is three nine hundred and fifty nine miles. So they kind of reverse engineer the math to make

the numbers right. But now we can buy telescopes and spotting scopes and cameras and things that clearly prove that wrong. There's people from Cress that are just not too far

from us. A few guys that have shot laser beams to mirror reflections across Cootney Lake and it's like they're whatever twenty miles apart or something, and one guy's thirteen feet off the water and the mirrors five feet off the water on the other side, and it's like you can physically see with the human eye this green laser

like where it should be behind five hundred feet of curvature. Right, So no curvature is for the fact that there's no container holding our atmosphere, and space just happens to be the strongest vacuum. It should just suck the atmosphere right off our planet, right, and we should be in space, as you know, as soon as you blink your eye.

But I think that's like the second law thermodynamics says, to have two different pressures, there has to be a container, and we know that there is a container in the firmament, right absolutely. And then you know, they talked about gravity and and how it's like mass attracting mass, and I know this is all the stuff that this is probably why you're shutting down the podcast because it's like two hundred and fifty episodes of people saying the same things over and over.

And I couldn't believe it when I heard this story about they have this great big telescope and somewhere in the desert and they saw two atoms or something like so so many light years away between two black holes and they could see, you know, some correlation between them where it's like nice, nice story, right.

won't hear what you have to say. If you're a truther. Right now, I think truther is a swear word, so they'll flag you if you're a truther. But whatever, I'm sure I'm flagged a million times over.

I meant to mention it now's a good time. Yeah, I do ham radio, amateur radio, and I came across the other day that the longest and this is line of sight radio transmission, meaning that antenna A has to be able to see antenna be for it to work right, two hundred and twenty miles across the red seat, two hundred and twenty miles, and I know somewhere I did. I don't have it in front of me the notes, but it's like physically impossible with with that the curvature calculator.

guys are and and the like. Have you have you heard about Cinemix It was a company. I think it goes under the medical thing. I think it's h GK two ninety three. It could be around two eighty nine or two ninety three, but it's the same abortal aborted fetal tissue from like the fetus kidney cells, and they use it in foods and drinks for like an anti bitterant, which is insane, But it is disguised on the ingredient list under natural flavor, and it can be organic natural

flavor too. So when you start looking at ingredients and things that you buy in the grocery store, it like

most of the things that have natural flavor. They're also accompanied by a paragraph of other ingredients that you're like, obviously I shouldn't be eating this, but just for those people that are still buying ritos and Coca cola and and all those things, like we gotta we gotta spend the time if it matters to you and and look into this stuff because it's kinda like still falls under the commandments, like He puts these things out for us, and he gives us this wisdom so that we can

have blessings and life, like the other option is death and curses. So if you can see that something is poison and it's not good for you, whether it's you feeding your kid tarturezine or things with you know, citric acid, look up how they make that stuff, or a Lura red, FCF yellow and sunset yellow and whatever. All these food colorings and stuff. It's all super poisonous. So I don't know, I would say that that's really important.

And I think there's too many stories about people that have asked AI all these things, and it's really it seems like it's the demon realm to us, like it. It constantly asks questions like is there anything I can help you? With and it's basically asking for your permission

in your life to intercede this information. And you know, it's lots of people say it's totally man made and it's just gathering other information off the Internet and stuff, and it's like it it really to us, seems like fallen angel technology.

not to be ignorant. If you've heard these things today and you've been questioning this stuff, like no, you're not alone, and try and dig up that information while you still have access to it, because I think we're coming pretty close to the end here where you're not going to be able to access the stuff that you would have liked to.

have it. I mean, I've probably one hundred and twenty books haven't read yet, but it's there if I need it, because I know there is going to be this Fahrenheit four fifty one book burning event, right and when everything's digital, they can just like Bill Cooper's be Held to Behold a Pale Horse, they eliminated chapter fifteen out of there. I have a ninety three copy that I paid quite a bit of money for but I cherish it, but I'm up against it. I have another guest coming on

in about ten minutes, but I'll tell you what. This has been a tremendous conversation and again kind of just reinforcing what you said is that there are people all around the world who hear these things and like they're like, Wow, there's there's somebody else out there who believes what I believe. So tip of the cap to you for sharing everything. And I'll give you the last word, sir.

to get back to everybody who I can. God bless each and every one of you. Remember to keep your head on a swivel, and God bless each and every one of you. And until we meet again, my friends, we will see.