Episode 219: Flat Earth Conversation with Joseph

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But my journey was from nineteen eighty eight to nineteen ninety nine, and I went through a and epiphany that's called it, epiphany that was very strong, where the blinders were removed and then could see the world for what it was. I could see the lies. I could see that the whole thing was a lie. We have been lied to you about who God is. We were lied to you about what Church is. We were lied to

you about religion. We were lied to about the finances, the politicians, the movies, the music, the things we consume, the brands we buy. And I could see through all of it, just like that movie you talk about all the time on your podcast, is Belived. And never saw the movie before, so it's not it was not ingrained in my brain. Never saw the movie, and I just got the glasses on it. I could see the truth behind every message and this quite quite quite a time

for me. It was great for the people around me, it wasn't so great because you're awake, you're starting to be awaken and you're starting to share this information and people think you're crazy, ager like, what's going on here? This epiphany during that time, it was about five day period in nineteen ninety eight where things were coming to me, and it was I got to say it was I was seeing into the spirit, not knowing what was what it was because I didn't know Jesus at that time.

I didn't know about a spiritual battle. I didn't know about a spiritual realm. I didn't know about heaven and Hell. I was raped Catholic, so the Catholic Church really numbs you down in terms of the spiritual part of it. So the key things that were coming to me, what's frequencies was we're all connected? Was that I was waiting for a phone call. I was actually heading by the phone waiting for a call. I was I'm going to

get called. I was telling this to my fiance at the time, I'm just waiting If she was like, what are you doing with the phone all the time? Is I'm just waiting for that call and then we'll be taken and I'm going to be taken also. It's all these things. It's very, very difficult to try to explain it. Sometimes we just got to just trust the messenger and the saying, you know what I saw things, and these messages of you know, the wild will be controlled with which is the will is not what it is. And

there's another part too. My mind was always focusing the history is not what it's. What we're told in history is not what it is. So all this was very strong. I couldn't sleep for the week, led me to the hospital. Was in the hospital for three days, uh three days to nights unfirsting enough and then woke up like nothing happened during that time the hospital, still seeing visions, very strong visions. And that led me to the search of

what happened, and it brought me to Christ. It brought me all the answers I was looking for was in the Bible. All the answers came full circle through the word of God. Gave my life to Christ, and that that moment on when the Bible says, or whoever is inquired, Jesus is the new creation, the all that's gone in us come. That happened over instantly. When I gave my heart to Christ, everything changed, new language, new habits, is a joy unspeakable. And my first calling ap to die

was I need to tell everyone about this. I somehow was the last man standing thing. Everybody was waiting for me to get on board here. But it turned out it wasn't the case. Everybody was very objective, very negative towards my son in love for Christ. But anyways, here I am in twenty fourteen. Well before that, given my English is my second language, George, so I'm gonna sometimes search my word. You're doing awesome, Okay, great, So through that.

So having the blinders remove, everything's a lie and you can see through it. But it's an interesting thing because when it comes to where we live, never connecting to Dodge until about twenty fourteen, started to travel a lot and start asking questions, and it brought me to a full understanding that, you know, the earth is not a ball, and it's not spinning in a void, and God is

literally on top of us. You know. I would hear preachings and and and and and sermons about you know, the first, second and third Heaven and how the second Coming of Christ will happen. I've heard preachers say it's going to be a twenty four hour event. As the earth turns that way, crisis coming, everybody's gonna see it. It's gonna be a twenty four hour event. I'm like, it makes no sense. The Bible says every I shall see Him. How is that going to happen on the ball.

So asking these critical questions led me to understand, I don't think we're living on a spinning ball here. And the progression of it was crazy, it was great. And now we have this community here that so many people were awakened to the same thing. To me, one thing, George, is I got to thank you for everything you're doing right now. I think it's anointed. I think it's spirit field. I think it is it's church. You know. I listened

to all your podcasts. I listened to all the guests that you have and I've learned so much And and just a shout out to all the guests have been on the show before before myself. You have done. These people have brought so much of truth, so much of inspiration, so much of Godliness into the community where you know what this is real?

you know, speak openly about biblical cosmology as well. A couple of notes about some things you mentioned, and something that is I think a little deeper than what many people realize is when you talked about they live and being able to when the veil falls from man's eyes,

to be being able to see things. So many logos within corporate America are satanic and a prime example is Monster Energy Drink which has the six sixty six logo and Hebrew and there's you know that get meant that gets mentioned a lot, but what they don't take that next step and realize if if you don't think there's more to that than just a logo and a sign. If you think about it, Monsters impact on health, it's called monster. It causes heart palpitations, in arrhythmia, anxiety, insomnia,

dental problems, dehydration. So you know, we champion this stuff. And this is a prime example of something that when you step into the secular world, you have to have your your your glasses on because it's it's right before your eyes. And and when this knowledge comes upon you, it's your responsibility to share it with others and warn them and listen. You can't force others to to, you know,

to drink the water you provide them. But at least we have to, you know, we're told it's our responsibility. A like you said, our primary mission is to share the gospel of Jesus Christ, but all the other things that come with it, these secular warnings and and things that can impact our lives. So we should share with others as well. Would you agree with that?

on time pulled the Green Old Water? Why did they have a star on all these labels Starbucks, Star Stars, Star Stars. They used the star of the pentagram. There's no reason that all leave companies have the same logos or the same symbol. There is a reason for it.

of reaction. But you know, as we progress in our walking, our journey, it's you know, our journey with Christ. It's not a it's not an easy one. It's impossible actually, because we are weak and we are in the flesh still, and the flesh wrestles against against the spirit all the time. It's contrary. So so you know, so when you come to realize where you want to talk about, you know, they we're not on the spinning ball. And you start sharing that message within the people of Christ and they

have the same reaction. You know, I'm sharing this with some people that are close to me, that serve Christ for a long time, and you start talking about biblicult cosmology, to start talking about Genesis one, and you go into all the verses and there's plenty of them, and they kick you on their house. They have a strange reaction. It is crazy. Just to let you know how deep

the indoctrination is. And it starts from childhood. It starts from birth, you know, especially here in the West, Uh, you know, you've got a toddler in their crib and they've got a globe solar system twirling around their their heads in their cribs, and it starts and it starts, and it's a programming program me, and yeah, so it's we we we just need to be a bit more understanding of that and compassionate and and continue to plant seeds or breadcrumbs like you would say, and hopefully they'll

come to a point where they'll start researching, because there's great content out there if they search in the right place. And I always mentioned to them, never sure won't search it on Google. If you're going to search this, don't search it on Google. And this was one of the motivations of why I wanted to come on your show, George, is to be able to have to share with some people. You know, this is real. There's just not only me

that thinking this way. There's a I think that the metrics was percent of Americas believes that the Earth is swat and some another percentage there on the on the fence on it. There's a lot of people. There's there's huge numbers and people are being awakened all the same time for a reason which leads to thought, just to let you know, And a lot of times I would call, well, this is not a falivation issue. Well it sure helps, Yeah,

it sure helps. It is a tool that we use to be able to you know, they're lying about this, Why they're lying about this, to keep your eyes focus on something else.

is really how it operates. And when you think about it, I mean, when you're born again, if you were born and just dropped off on an island, you would never think in a million years that you lived on a ball. So that goes to speak of the great psychological effort that they put into making you believe even though you can't feel, even though you know water doesn't bend, You know that that rivers can't flow upstream up a hill, right,

But they coerce you to believe all of that. Not only that, but if you believe against it, that you're just a nutshob. You're crazy.

stuck in our TVs and we are ye. This back then in into ninety eight, we didn't have the camminology we have today, and that was one thing I was telling people, We're gonna be stuck in TV's whatever. I feel what I had in the epiphany was like a prophetic vision of the future before I came to know Jesus. So that way, when I came to know Jesus, I knew it was real because everything connected. All my questions were answered full circle. So you take a look at

the Autawa symbol. You've got, You've got the adult industry have their their their main office in Ottawa. Like so many different corporations are coming to the city. The corporate world is taking over small businesses. So they have complete control. Keep in mind, you know it's not about the God is above all things, and the devil's is a deceiver and that thief and a liar, right so, and he's here to destroy and he's also copycatting God. He's hijacked

everything that is good and inverted and the inversions. You know, if I tell a Christian brother, yeah, let's do it an herbal and herbal solution to help your cold, He's gonna call me, are you a witch or something like that. Now, this God has provided us with everything we need on this earth to take care of us. He's like, I don't wear sunscreen? Why? Because why would God put something

in the sky that's going to hurt his creation? Hey man, everything else feeds from it, Everything else feeds from it. I haven't worn sunglasses in years because I know this. It's important to get that light in my eyes. It's important to get into my body. You could absorb the light like you would do water, if that makes sense.

is bad, but the spray is good. And then you see people get melanoma and they blame it on the sun. And if you think about that, think about those words. And we talk about spells, blame it on the sun. Think about those words.

pornography is protected under the First Amendment. So that's again the things that we see is good. Anytime there's something that crosses God's law, it's our duty and it's our responsibility to stand up to it. So you know, you'll hear people say, well, nothing's perfect and politics this and that. No, that is evil. That is the root of evil. You know, during the Southern Baptist Convention, they were putting out numbers and something to the effect of sixty percent of all

men who attend church look at porn. How destructive that is, yet it's protected by our government.

I was excited to feel because you're just a thousandears just as under as Australia that parallel, and I just I couldn't wait to feel what I would feel, you know, the difference of being upside down and question that. And it was my first long flight and going from the north to the south. So I'm like a kid in a candy store and I'm at the window seat, I'm looking at I'm looking outside the window the whole time

it's a ten hour flight. I'm not taking a nap, I'm not sleeping, I'm not you know, I'm not watching movies. I'm looking out. And the whole time it was a fly, I could be the horizon never curved, there was no curvature, there's nothing, there's nothing. So trigger happy on my phone taking pictures of everything. And then it's a long flight, and then I'm questioning, just you know, I have to travel within the country and try to short flights to New York City and stuff like that, but this was

my longest life. Why did these things have to be so uncomfortable. Can't they just make them plane of like ten feet look wider and ten feet longer, so that way we could have some room and more comfortable. But the whole one, you start thinking about it, the whole aviation process makes you uncomfortable all the time. So that way you're not focused on other things. You know, you're not comfortable to be sitting like it's fitting and maybe checking the views like I want to be checking the views.

I want to see the Andes Mountains. I want to see the ocean, and I want to see all these things, and I want to feel. I want to feel being upside down. And I got there and I feel I felt fantastic, look as thought as could be. And another another thing that really questioning, I was questioning a lot is the sun ninety three million miles away? Where's the tool? I want to see the tool? How did they measure that? I want to see that laser. I want to see

that tool. And how does this sun? That light travel through darkness and there's you can't see the light and then just for some reason just glows on this earth. You know, they've got the questions they found Philly. It's true uh, where's the light? And out of space? Where's the light on the moon or the land alo of it? You know, you start thinking about NASA flying to the moon or flying out of space. They're going into unknown territory. Where's the equipment just in case you get attacked? Where

are the guns? Yep? Look at the cast. Look at the cast of actors in those still they look like out of shape people. You wouldn't you would never think you would You think g I Jo would be on that, on that massa, on that NASA uh uh flight. See what I'm saying. You look at the cast.

telling they're the alien? What happens to the aliens that packed them when they're in outer space? Where are the guns on that ship? Where the where you see what I'm saying? Where does that make sense to you? Doing?

know included, and that's what they are, their actors. And again we can debate whether or not they knew from the get go or kind of like that movie in the seventies where they basically were told as they were entering the capsule that hey, you know this isn't really you're not going to the moon, right, So we can argue that and what an unfair burden it was to be placed on these people, Right, if your family was threatened, what are you going to do? Because again I think

Neil Armstrong is the perfect example of this. But have they been doing that for the last fifty years?

greater good. Right, I truly believe that they think that they're doing that for the greater good, but they don't understand the irreparable damage they're doing by making people believe that we live in this endless realm of space that we're moving at four hundred thousand. This is just such a blatant lie. And to think that we start our children out in life with two lies. Number one, that Santa,

which is an anagram of Satan. You know, twenty four hours goes around the globe to deliver presents, and and the globe itself, that that's the world we live in.

change your life? It changes everything? And especially if you're a child of God, you cannot even imagine, you know this, how it change just the way you read scripture and how you approach the Father. You know that when you're looking up into the blue in God's blue room, you know he's right there above us. You know, No, we don't know everything because we are we need to really humility and humble ourselves to say, you know, I'm creative,

I'm not the creator. And sometimes in our own ego and arrogant sometimes we think we have it all figured out. But sometimes we just got to let the unexplainable have its way and allow the mysteries of Christ have its way in your heart and soul, so that way He will give you the wisdom. He will give you the knowledge. All wisdom and not come from the Father, doesn't come from this world. You know. The devil rules the world. He hates God. He's certainly not going to like his creation.

He's going to do everything he can to put blockers so that way he did not see the truth. And this ball is spinning ball is a blocker. We in the past two two or three years with all this pride stuff and the transgender movement, that's all that we're talking a lot about blockers and stuff like that. Other

there's lots of blockers. And the globe is a blocker to your spiritual identity because when you trying to mix what NASA is teaching or what the world is teaching in terms of this creation, and you try to mix with it what it makes no sense. And I could understand why it may need some some true pursuite. Some people walk away from the face or walk away because it makes no sense. Genesis one doesn't make sense with it's spinning ball just doesn't. This doesn't add up, and

then that doesn't add up. You know, you talk to look at take a look at the numbers. Always the repetition of the sixty six sixth numbers. There's no coincidences, yeah, one hundred percent.

the spring of the sky. Some people think it is to actually put you know, barium and aluminum, which is certainly part of it, be a a l right, but it is also to keep the sun away from us, to keep us unhealthy, and to try to disconnect us from God. I fully believe that that's what they're trying to.

same picture. We're starting to see the moon in the daytime and you're starting asking those questions, how is this possible? If we're on the spinning ball. You start asking that question, is there's a steering inside of you. You'll get there, just like the steering of the steering of understanding what happens after we die? Where am I going after we die? These questions hear you towards the truth and the enemy

that because it's the battle of the soul. You know, there's something powerful about the soul of man that God chose to leave heaven to come to this earth as Jesus and die for us, for us to have that way back to him, there's got to be something about us that was we're dying for. And this is something that's not preached enough. We preach about this in nature.

And another thing that we you know, especially here in my experience with church and different churches, is that you tend to keep the congregation in there's in nature by you know, undeservingly deserved it, and we do. You know, we're saved by graves and there's nothing I did to earn it. It's on American favor. I don't know if that makes any sense to you, John George.

think they have a greater meaning to it. I know they call it the god gene. Yes, that was something that was talked about a lot during COVID, that the the Mr and a jab was taking out the god gene. There was a somebody had posted something that went viral, some type of speech in Harvard or something that kind

of touched on it as well. But it should be known that these people who have all the money in the world, listen, if there was no God, no Satan, they would take their money and they would go to a beach and they'd live out the rest of their lives. But they've signed they work for Satan, and their job, as long as they're going to keep their wealth, their duty is to right to get as many people away

from God as possible. Now, I think they're they're coming to a point Joseph, that I think they're trying to do all these things to force And I'm telling you this is what they're thinking. There's a lot of interesting articles written about this. That they're doing all of these crazy things is to try to force the return of Christ. Is that something you've heard about.

believe we're living in Matt Tew twenty four. I think Matt Tew twenty four is the the prophecy of Jesus Christ telling his disciples of how it's going to be in the last days. And and if you I read it this morning before I came on here to to have more clarity of it, and and and and you read that chapter and you're seeing what's going on in the world. Those there's pretty pretty tangible proof that we're living in those times where you know the rumors of

wars and wars, there's there's lovers of them men. We you take a look at just the selfie movements, you know there'll be the lover of men, will be lovers of themselves. And there's been so much recorded about nothing these days that people have documented nothing. People are selfie, selfie, selfie and selfi. You go to a park, to an amusement park, you go anywhere in public, you're getting keep over their phones and taking selfies.

that is something. Again, Satan can't create anything, but he can surely deceive you.

My talk I have these conversations with my three children, which I talk about this with them all the time, and they're on board and it's for their journey to rediscover it all and and I just like to be there as a guide. But they're feeling the same way. It's like the days are going by like crazy, Like it's right now at ten o'clock Eastern time, it's well, you know it, we'll be having dinner. You know, it

is crazy where time goes. And in Matthew twenty four talked about the days will be shortened for our sake. Also we're June. For we're June ninety eleven. We feel like yesterday we celebrated New Year's Day.

qualify the unqualified. He's doing that as we speak. I trust, I trust, and I trust. I have been saying this for about two or three years now, and I said, we're walking into a season where God is resisting the proud and we're walking in those signs, these bird pains, this climate change hoax. If because man is trying to or man, I should say, the devil, he doesn't want to tell people these are the signs of hapveit. This

is the signs of God. God is talking to you through these signs, the weather patterns, the You know, when you read the Book of Enoch, there's a part in the Book of Enoch that talks about how the sun and the moon and the luminaries are managed. It talks about how the winds are managed. This is not man controlling the weather. This is them creating an illusion that they are creating. They're controlling the weather so that way we put our eyes on men, we're not putting our

eyes on God. You quote Songs one eighteen eight all the time in an adverse. I quote all the time, not to trust in men. We're told right in the center you search one eighteen eight. You know there's some articles I say had that's the center verse of the Bible. There's one thousand, one hundred and eighty eight chapters in the Bible, and the center versus Psalms one eighteen eight. The shorter chapter in the Bible is one seventeen in longest is one nineteen. I believe. So how can man

or orches straight these these scriptures? No one only got himself to do this.

disproved by observational science. It's like, how can you not see this? I just want to get on a plane and fly down to Kentucky and walk into Kenham's office and man, you're you're so close. How can you not see this?

It's important that we stand up and speak the truth with love. Yes, speak the truth with love when people tell me for me because of my progression, my progressive are waking into the flat earth for me, And don't talk to people about this like this doesn't makes sense. Look at boats, look at the tea level, look at start talking about outer space? Where is outer space? What is that? Where's God? How come we don't feel the How come we don't feel the spin? How don't we

feel the wind of the spin? How we're moving on? There's three speeds. There's a speed on itself, twenty four hours. That's a fast print of events. Twenty four hours is a full spin on itself. We're seeing the same stars, and then we're moving forward around the sun, and then we're projecting forward. Yep. Just think about your imagination. This is a gift of God. Your imagination is a gift of God. Do people imagine if you imagine flying up to the blue, what do you see? You'll never see

the ball. You'll never see a spinning ball, because it's not in you. It's not your man. You can never imagine it. You would ask anyone that they'll do. Put yourself in that imagination state. What do you see? Fly up into the sky? What do you see? Just see flat? Yep, because that's what we're living in. A few years ago, I was killing a friend. It's just, you know what.

I woke up one morning and I'm looking at myself in the mirror and I look at my eyes and I got blue eyes, like it's clear, and I'm looking into my eyes and like the truth is in our eyes. The truth is in our eyes. And I was sharing with people. Is from some friends of mine that are open to this conversation. I said, you know what, it's right there in our eyes. We've got the whole thing in our eyes. We've got the pupil which is the black rock the center, and then you've got the rest.

Look at it. And for the past two years you're seeing this type of these type of memes on social media, the eyes and the flat Earth. Have you ever seen these memes?

no old on us. And the best is you have to come. You know. I know there's troubles in this world. I have compassion towards the suffering that people are are living. But I believe that suffering leads to Christ. I believe that suffering will lead that heart to cry out to God. And I think in Ottawa or in Canada, you talked about this before. The made service that they offer for people is another another trick of the devil that's killed

people before their time. So they don't suffer, so that way they don't cry out to God, so that way they're in eternal jeopardy.

But this young lady's father was told he had like three months to live, and they offered him the pills and he ended up living six years. And these are the stories that you don't hear because evil doesn't come out as a big, eldly monster. It always comes under the guise of good and compassionate. And you know, now, as I mentioned, made this assisted suicide program in Canada is like the fifth leading cause of death in Canada. It is it is, it is.

you mean, no, there's no it's it's just uh. We all have struggles, and the struggles make you stronger, and that struggle brings you to that to that call for help. And these these ones are manipulating and believing they're doing something good. You've got them may professor telling you to do this. And of course some people will believe that they're vulnerable, they're weak, they're desperad and they'll take that pill.

With our being prepared for eternity, this life is just but a vapor and eternity will be for a long time. We don't know all the details. And God is nurseful. Well, we've all had struggles on people, financial struggles, and that's financial struggles leads you to that call for help. Some people's health issues and it will lead you to that call for help. Some people it's relationship struggles, and it will call you the help. You'll may not call to God calling to me.

And he puts it very bluntly that in many cases we only look to God during times of trouble, and that you know we we should. You know our mission is twofold again. It's to share the Gospel and create disciples, whether times are good or times are bad. But we know through the Bible that there's going to be difficult times and if you follow Christ, you're going to be persecuted.

So my my thing, what I post to people now is if you're too comfortable, are you really pushing the Gospel of Jesus because you have this knowledge, whether it's flat earth whether it's vaccines, whether it's again, Jesus, if you're not sharing this knowledge, what are we doing?

he said. We we our job is to believe on the one he said. So we go out there believing on the one that he sent. And it's to share that knowledge and to share that truth and share our testimony, to share these these these But it's the ones that are using this service, this this and I shouldn't even say that word service. I apologize to that, but this

this thing and they don't know Christ. So they're going to take the pill thinking because the guys is a doctor, trusting the doctor and they're doing this without knowing the truth.

this these world leaders. I just cannot imagine. So this is why I'm so convinced that we living in that time. According to Matthew twenty four and increase of knowledge we're seeing in people and unusual suspect suspecting people coming to know Christ, people coming to know the flat Earth. I don't even like to use the label of flat earth. I don't believe that we use that label for each other.

I think this is the world that created this flat earth society, so we're identifyed with that that I think. I like when you talk about true Earth.

people and they're going to walk away. However, if you said to them, what are your thoughts on true Earth, and you know exactly what, ninety percent are going to say, well, what's that? And then if you explain it without even using the words flat earth, you're going to get more of a They're going to be more receptive than if you just said, hey, you know the flat Earth, because that is how they're programmed. That's how their program to

react when they hear those two words. And if you don't believe in spells right or spelling, say certain words to people like flat earth and see how they react.

he is. One of his first interviews with him proclaiming Jesus Christ in preaching the gospel and saying how how he was blessed to be able to see his creation from from outer space and seeing yeah, you we searched that video. Uh, when he came back, he's preaching the gospel. And when I was watching it, I'm like, wow, you you never saw that.

good guys and bad guys. And again, I don't know. Maybe this guy again Iss is not traveling seventeen thousand, five hundred miles an hour. Is again I don't know. And that's I got a lot of emails about that guy. So I got a lot of emails about that, which William's guy. They say, now, how can you how can you say they're at this flight? This guy is a professing Christian. I said, I don't know the man. I'm not saying I know his heart, but I don't know the man. What am I supposed to say?

how does that deceive the masters? How does that deceive the massive and defense where yeah, like Paul would say, as long as Jesus it's preached, which is great, he's preaching, but it's it's still a half truth because now, because how can I say this is is that people waking up to that flat Earth is so it's rapid, it's it's fast, and this is the they need to protect this line and hence the reason why I believe Ellen Musk is in the skin of things to be the whistleblower.

I mean, we started We're starting to see that the Space space X is their backup to expose NASA if ever they need to, because Space Fix never never, never went out a stray. Yet I think they're always they're always, they're always, they're always breaking down before it hits the firmament or hits the firmament. Yeah, and I'll tell you some of them into play to be a whistle blower to all that stuff.

messaging about the truth in that TV series. There's even a ship in one of the episodes, they find this old record, this ship wreckage, and it was called black Lock. Really is that a coincident? Yep? Called black Rock? And it's an island that you cannot get to. It's an island that was just it's just that it can't get off and that's a special way to get there. And we talked about Antarcta all the time, but we never talked about We seldom talk about the Arctic Circle. What's

up there? M hm. You know, you start looking at Old Matt and you're seeing, you know, is there where where the guard and if Heaton is and all that stuff, and there's there's something there on this island. This lost island that they find, there's people living on there. They seemed to not die, they seem to have been there forever.

And there's a polar bear. There's all these themes that it's just so mysterious and so good, and there's somebody is from the truth community or think that the that that know that the Earth is flat is it is a flat Earth message I just saw. I just there have to find good TV shows because all that took the work program, you right, So this one was an interesting one.

it all at the same time, it will come. Sometimes it won't be that same day, maybe it'll be a week, maybe six months later, but it will connect yet again, I think, like, for example, the two towers, they were built to come down, the actually built from design to come down this one hundred and ten fours right, so you got your eleven there, And there's one website that says that the height of them was one three five

zero one three hundred and fifty feet tall. That's you got your nine in there, nine and then there's one hundred and ten stories. Yep, I've seen those towers that I've got pictures right by them. Because I'm a big I love New York City, right, So I used to travel there in my late years and then in my before I turned twenty with school and go there every Easter weekend. Another thing about the Devil's a little season.

What makes I think someone it makes sense. But there's one thing I know in the documentary Lost History of Flat Earth. When you start you can talk about this documentary before it's like a five hour documentary. Yeah, there's a part of there in there that it starts talking putting the focus on the buildings. And there's a shot of the Parliament Hill here in Ottawa in that documentary in that the documentary, and I lived like ten minutes from from from Parliament Hill, so I'm there all the time.

And I've been starting to observe the buildings and really observe the detail. And one thing that makes them skeptical of that teaching is if this was built during the reign or Christ for a thousand years, I don't think there would be so much statues there's so many graven images in the architecture. There's so many there. There's like goblins and there's lizards. Why is there lizards in there?

You take a look at the detailed architecture of the Parliament Hill and you'll see and then and you start looking at the buildings and you're seeing all these images you symbol of and it's built right into it. This is I don't think there's things that we're at and after that's where I'm a bit suspicious about where but season we're in? Does that make sense? You know?

and that's what I've done. You know, I would go to the Pacific Ocean, look on the beach and looking at the ocean, or in the plane, or on mountains, and the end is mountains, looking at the at the views and there's no evidence of any anything tilting, anything curving, and anything moving. And how does gravity work? And then you start thinking about gravity, how does it work. Where's our mechanism inside of us? How does gravity know what to gravitate and what not to gravitate? You know, where's

that mechanism inside of us? There's nothing. How do we connect to the gravity of machine? You know, a bird could fly, a plane could fly. But it just makes no sense. The math don't work if gravity works. If you know, I would ask this question, you know, how does gravity work? So it's is it in the earth. It's like in the soil. Where where does it come from? So it's a kind of a trick question I ask people.

And so technically, if it's in the earth, I should be able to and it connects me to the earth, I should be able to walk up close. No problem, you mean what I'm.

people and working the career of sales. It's part of it's part of the culture.

like thirty years. I remember their names, or whether he did for a living and something. It's amazing. Why is it because I strive to did not lie. I don't need to remember stuff because it's the truth. But truth is the truth. Great point and forgiveness, also repentance. But silver bullets, you know, it's the sixth of them. There's so many. You're the son you know, doesn't doesn't on hearth, it doesn't shine out of space, but shin long earth.

It's a fireball, and fire does not exist without oxygen? And what else? What else? There's so many Well, there's the Bible, the Word of God, Genesis chapter one.

And then you can realize how silly this is. I've done that within the last week and it was quite an interesting conversation that just the science is that that is wrapped into people. When you actually step back and look at these stories about it's it began spinning like four and a half billion years ago due to the conservation of you. You'll see the words angular momentum h repeated over and over and over.

to fee that. And if you follow the money, everything man does is to profit. We want to make a profit. You go to Nagara Falls. We did nothing to these falls. These falls are created by God. And then what we do We have this little village of to consume. We have these these restaurants, these these entertainment venues and stuff like that to bring the people there. It's like we do in Las Vegas with the Grand Canyon and all

that stuff. Don't you think that people would not pay a dollar or two to look into those microsot they these telescopes to see the sun. Absolutely I would pay. I would pay two hundred dollars. I spend one hundred dollars to go on top of the rock in Manhattan. In Manhattan, trust me, I would spend maybe five hundred dollars to look in one of those telescopes to see, you know, the Milky Way and to see the Sun in its glory. You see what I'm saying.

But if you're convinced that you're a glober, the ball is spinning and we're going through outer space, I would petition to give us more. That's would petition. I would petition for them. We're spending seventy million dollars per month, per day, I think billion dollars per day, seven billion dollars per day.

next level. And again, as you know, we know our government isn't very responsible fiscally. But by the way, that seventy million dollars a day is just a NASA that doesn't include the military contracts that are given to Tesla and things of that nature or SpaceX, I should say, so, you know, we should demand transparency. But again, people are more concerned about like we were talking about these arguments with Elon and Trump, than they are about getting to

the bottom of the truth. And sometimes again our pride gets in the way and we don't want to look at the evidence unless it supports our current beliefs because we never like to admit that we're wrong. And I think going back to what you were saying about trying to get people to listen to our evidence is I just don't think people understand how important and the significance of these things truly are. Like our audience does.

working things out so well. And to be able to connect through your platform, George, to be able to hear other stories and to hear other journeys to this truth and to the truth of Jesus, and to the truth of the earth, and to the other truths that were where we're experience experiencing right now. We could talk about this all week. You know, there's just so much and I thank you so much for your service, and thank you so much for for what you're doing.

twenty episodes, So thank you for your sincerity. And if there's anything you wanted to add before we close now would be a great time.

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