Episode 205: Flat Earth Conversation with Sterling

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I just really enjoy the content. And I'm glad that you host this space so that way people like me and others can just share some enjoyable information.

uh older terminology and things are going well. She is not of the same belief that the earth is flat, but she is a christ follower, and there's so many other things that we have in common that I'm realizing, you know what, you don't have to agree with me on one hundred percent of everything, but you know, there's just a few core beliefs that we do need to share,

and we do. So things have been going great there and I credit the fact that you know, just putting your putting your truth, like the truth that you believe in.

It just saves so much time. And honestly, it's me being respectful of the other person's time because if you can't get past that, then we shouldn't be you know, shouldn't be buying dinner, It shouldn't be spending time together because you know, the word that I like using is it's fruitless, you know what I mean, It just doesn't make any sense to So that's why I do it that way.

to run this by. This is a little differently than I do, but I came across this article yesterday and I want to run this past you because you are a believer in Jesus. And when we talk about people who have a set belief, a common belief, like in our faith in Jesus, but in some cases, not only do they say, hey, that flatter thing is a little out there, but people who take the time to go against it and effort to go against it without it shocks me. So I'm going to give you an example

of sterling and then we'll get into it. But I wanted to do this upfront. Here is a little different. So there was a story written a while ago, the Answers and Genesis. The Kenham folks, the people who believe in you know, the earth is sixty five hundred years old, that you can go to the arc experience, and they are all about like, this is what the Bible says, and this is how we should believe it. But they write article after article going after flat earth and proclaiming

that the Bible doesn't teach it. So, combined with what we talked about before the podcast, how is it in your mind why some people can see things so clearly but in this one particular subject that they just can't see through the clouds of deception.

So you know, that's how the devil attacks this. That's how demons attack us. And you know we are the vessels that they use to further their goals and deception is one of them. So you know they're deceived. And I've come to the understanding that the flat earth specifically is not a salvation issue. Except that it can be, you know what I mean, Like the conspiracies and looking into them is what brought me closer to the Lord.

And I've professed Christianity pretty much my whole life. I was fortunate enough to be raised in a home that, you know, they were believers. But you know, as I got older and into my twenties and got further away, I realized that, you know, I was luke warm is unfortunately the best description. So I came back to Christ. And part of what brought me back to Christ and rededicating my life to Him is, you know, just looking

into things. You know, like when you look into things and you start to figure out the truth, the truth really does be free. And how do I don't know what the hang up is. It's kind of just a blessing that we were able to break through it, because it's brainwashing, I guess it would be the best way of describing it.

we were up against. And it wasn't really until that point where I did a complete change and I tried to live and be a better person. So again, like you've mentioned and many people have before, is that it isn't directly a salvation issue. No, of course not, but it does have ramifications. It has brought people to God. And you know, I wish I could sit down with people like ken Ham and just open up my email and show him the hundreds. And we've been doing this

for a couple of years now. Maybe it's close to one thousand people, not just here but around the world who understand that. You know, who is the prince of this world? You know everything? What's this most powerful tool? It's deception? And I mean, if you think and listen, once again, I'm not trying to maybe you're new listeners, it's the first flat Earth podcast you ever listened to. Everybody who you're going to listen to over the course of the these interviews, were was always at some point

on the other side of the fence. But when you realize that everything is a lie, and it's a carefully created lie, only then do you understand how important this syop is. Yeah, well, let's get to your journey to the truth, and you know, you talk about I guess where did flat Earth fall into those conspiracies? And and just to be completely open and transparent here, we did talk a little bit about what happened to that school

in Connecticut about twelve years ago. Right, we are cognizant of the fact and we believe that that the official story is not the truth. But this is just coming from George from me. We're going to save that for maybe another podcast on the on the other podcast, because that is something we have to be careful about. But I'm sorry, I didn't mean to step on your toes there. Talk a little bit about your journey to the truth and kind of the order of the the rabbit holes that you came across.

COVID was upon us, I got furloughed from my job, and it was just like everything happening at one time, and there's just so many ways that you can handle, you know, bad news after bad news after bad news. And I guess I'm very fortunate that I do have great parents. I'm an only child. I have a great group of friends. They you know, especially the friends that stuck with me when I believe the earth was a ball. And then there's still my friends now, even though they

might not that same belief. But essentially, when COVID hit and everything else, you know, we're in our homes and you know, it just gave me more time to go down rabbit holes. So before all of the distractions worked in their favor, you know, like I was, you know, trying to seek happiness, and then eventually looking into these conspiracies opened me up to the truth. And then fast forward two years later, that's when the biggest of them all,

which was the flat Earth. I finally was like, you know what it is, it is flat like this, this is you know, preposterous to continue to play along. But it started with the moonlanding. And then as I looked into the moon landing and watch videos, and I did try to see the other side, right because the debunking the moonlanding happening in the late sixties and early seventies was very convincing. So then I had to say, Okay, well,

maybe they're misrepresenting something. And I tried to watch someone who was, you know, defending that the moon landing happened, and he was speaking the same way you spoke of the people like not kin Ham because I don't want to don't. I don't think I've ever seen him talk negatively about it, but he just kind of dismisses it. But a lot of people will talk negatively about flat arthers.

And this person that I watched, he had you know, a quarter of a million followers on social media and he was name calling moon landing deniers, cursing, and just like in my opinion, he seemed unhinged, but he had all the support behind him, you know. The machine was like, yeah, this is the guy we want you to see. And I was like, it was very off putting, and so

unfortunately for them, it backfired. And I just started looking more and more down the rabbit hole of what appeared to be the truth to me, and I came to find out that it was in fact the truth.

backfires on him. And I truly believe brother, that twenty twenty was a plan that had been in the works probably since nineteen sixty eight, right, it's been They used it in the nineteenth century with smallpox, they used it in nineteen eighteen, and they did it again in twenty They've tried different times in sixty eight, in two thousand and nine with swine flu, but they went full bore

in twenty twenty. And I'm telling you, I'd have to bet off the top of my head close to the two hundred people I've interviewed just on this podcast, ninety percent of them COVID in one way or the other. Had a significant impact on their awakening process. How can that just not be divine divine intervention exactly.

had temporarily shut down due to the pandemic. By September, we're completely out of business. So you know, if you do the math, you know times number of average employees of small businesses. Now, all those people are probably either working at Amazon or Walmart or the federal government, right, and that's making the world more lopsided. That is giving the controllers more control. Now, hopefully many of those people were able to start their own businesses and things of

that nature. But you know, knowing you know those numbers, I would say that that was one of their desired outcomes was to get rid of the middleman. And if you can control you know, it's a monopoly. If you control all the assets, then you have a monopoly and you can enable this hyper inflation we're seeing. If there's no competition, they can set the prices at whatever they want.

this president's admitted straation. But you're right, it is it was a blessing in disguise. You know, we took Satan's tool from his toolbox and used it against him, like we are right now, Technology very much can be a double edged sword. You had talked about how it sounds like to me when you were talking about your friends, that you have had successes in sharing flat Earth with them.

And if you don't mind, could you repeat the question one more time, just being.

And then what I've also found out is when I bring up some of the lesser conspiracies, because the moon landing ones almost I think it's pretty close to fifty to fifty at this point. It's just that most people haven't taken the time to think about it. So I have one friend of mine and I told him about the moon landy and he said, I can see where you think that, but I still think it happened. And

I said, okay, no worries. And then we were having a play day because I had my kids and he has kids, and I was over at his place and I you know, he was he kind of brought up my belief to his in front of his wife, and his wife was like, oh, yeah, I don't think we went to the moon, but she's not a flat Earth. She was sure to distance herself from that. But I could see the surprise on his faces, like, whit you don't think we went to the moon, And she was like, no,

just there's too much. It doesn't make sense. And I was like, yes, there's probably a lot of people out there that you know, have that belief and maybe just don't verbalize it until they have the opportunity. And you know, if you're around me and we're friendly, I'm gonna I'm going to give you the opportunity.

I understand you have to take into context when trying to get that out there, but you can be very creative in just like Edward Burneese, he would take this is where I want to get to, So you backwards plan, right, whether it's the Torches of Freedom, right, the cigarette companies go to Edward Burnees. Women don't smoke. How can we

get people to smoke? Well, we want to give them freedom, so they're going to break out cigarettes On Easter Sunday nineteen twenty nine, light their cigarettes and say, men can't tell us what to do anymore. And within five years women's smokers increased by twenty six percent. Right, and all these things they understand psychology, and psychology is an extremely important weapon for them. With that being said, we need

to be critical and unique in our right. How can we start a conversation that I know within a coup couple of you know, back and forth, that I could just leave an opening to even drop a subtle hint to whether it be you want to talk about Jesus, whether you want to talk about flat Earth or nine to eleven, anything like that. You can be you know, you don't always have to just come, you know, print up a flyer and hand it to someone, or just walk up to someone and say, hey, my name's George.

I think the Earth is flat. What do you think? Right there? There are so many ways that we can be creative, and I think us, especially here in the United States, as a society, we're very creative people and we just have to put a little time and effort into it. And I think we can. I don't like to use the word and manipulate as a good word, but we can manipulate a conversation into something that we want to talk about that you know, is defined and good.

them back out into the workforce. That way, the government can take their taxes just like they take the taxes of the men that they've employed for so long. So that's extra money for the government. And of course the businesses do increase their bottom line with the ability to produce more so just the same tricks, you know what I mean, Like he brought up the devil in his deceit, and it's a manipulation. So a lot of the good natured thoughts and beliefs that we have, unfortunately get used

against us. And the thing that I always bring up when talking about some of my friends that still think the same way they did when we were in elementary school, is that their tolerance is being used against them. You know, you should not be tolerant of any of all things that unfortunately comes back to bite you, sometimes ten times harder than it would have if you just sit now in the first place.

by the name of AA Brill. And if you've never heard of him, just look up his Wikipedia page and he is of, you know, just the example of socialism, right, and he's embedded with the usual suspects, and you'll understand what I mean. But Brill said to Burnez, he said, quote and this is when he went to When Edward Barnes went to Brill about advice for the torches of freedom, Burnez was told by Brill quote. Today, the emancipation of women has suppressed many of their feminine desires. More women

now do the same work as men do. Many women bear no children, those who do bear have fewer children. Feminine traits are masked. Cigarettes, which are equated with men, became torches of freedom. So you can see the subtle meaning behind it, and that, like you said, that led into the fifties, the women going back, well even in the forties of World War Two, but going back in the workforce and then taking the children and you know, putting them in the hands of the Department of Education.

And like you said, not only are they getting tax money from Dad, they're getting taxpayer money from mom.

you off right away. So I try to be very mindful of that so I know who I'm speaking with, and if the Bible can ring true to them and help them see the truth, then I'll use that as a proof. So that's one is the Bible and it doesn't ring true to them, then I would try to

avoid it. And then I'll go to this other one, which would be water doesn't curve, and I would just say, we have such a large sample size with the oceans and lakes, and there's no test that can be ran that the water will curve to adhere to a different shape object. You can't have an open air vacuum without a container next to another space, so that you know,

outer space doesn't work. The altered video images that they show us from space just kind of points to the fact that it's not true, because why would you go to all the trouble of faking it if you could just show them the truth. We can see too far. And then crepuscular rays from the sun. I just like that.

I can remember that big word. So the fact that the crepuscular rays tell you the angle and when you when you use that for your reference and measurement, you get, you know, several thousand miles most likely as opposed to the ninety three million miles away.

can't take it seriously. And then that gets back into Joshua ten thirteen and all of these other things. Then you know, who would judicates what was real and what was just you know, kind of used as a verb just to kind of describe something right with fancy words.

and I think it's in Turkey. There's a city with a you know, a local name that means five men, and that's the city where the arc that supposedly rested. And he showed some footage and it looks like the the arc that would have been built by the measurements that were explained in the book is in the Book of Genesis. So yeah, like these things really happened, Joan. I got swallowed by a well and you know, like it was a different time it was. You know, there's

chariot wheels in the Red Sea. You know, all of all of these things they happened. And the only way that you think they don't happen is you you're distracted. Because if you do take the time to go look into it, you'll you'll see all the evidence that I laid out, and I only laid out just a little droplet of it. So biblical proofs are amazing. And so the Bible contains everything that you need, you know, it

doesn't contain everything. So that's why it's nice to be able to talk and relate to other people that maybe don't use the Bible or don't read it as regularly as they should, and you know, I fall in my group. I don't read as often as I should. I'm currently going through the Bible in the Year podcast just because that's how I consume information better. So I'm a few days behind. But they actually just did today. The reading that I listened to today was about the Sun standing

still in the Book of Joshua. So it's nice when I come across the chance a local reference outside of the podcast that i'm seeking that confirm what it is that make up my beliefs.

they can see the moon. And I was like, the other side of the globe, it's middle of the night, you know, like if it's a half moon, they should be able to see it, you know, like and it

just doesn't make sense on a ball earth. But the other side, when I was in California at the time, I had to kind of I didn't do a little bit of research to find this out, But the other side of the globe from California is roughly Madagascar, off the coast of Africa, and there's just so much ocean out there that you know, almost all of the United States the other side of the globe. If you're trying to get a literal twelve hour difference of you know, why can't I see the moon in the middle of

the day. They should be able to see the moon at night. But you can't really just reach out to people in Madagascar.

front of me. Behold even the moon and it shineth not. Yeay, the stars are not pure in its light, and the Bible does tell us that it is a lesser light, it's a secondary light. And that's going all the way

back to the moonlanding. If you show someone's scripture, and there are probably sixty or seventy Bible verses that talk about the sun and what science tells us, and then you look at the moon landing, right, you look in the sky, I see a bright plasma, something interesting, And then these guys are huffing around in a lunar lander with dust kicking up. I mean, that is the ultimate mockery, isn't it?

us to believe. Another thing with the moon that was interesting to me was when I learned that the reflective light from the moon, which I don't even think it's reflective, but rather the light from the moon is colder than the shade around it. And God blessed the girl that I'm dating now because she allowed me to open this as a conversation point and she heard me, and I

think it was received. And you know, when someone's coming around to something like that, I definitely don't want to push you hard, so I gauge that she didn't really want to hear anymore. But at least she learned that when something's reflecting a light source that contains heat, the reflective light should not be colder than the source. So

you know what I mean. Correct, The shade around it and the light could be the same temperature, But the light being colder than the shade around it tells us that it's not a reflection of light.

but if his arguments are very weak. And there is one thing I did try to find before our call, but I couldn't find it because the machine is actively working behind the scenes to make sure that they're spokespeople, Nilda grass Tyson being one of them, don't put their foot in their mouth too far of an extent. And so the one time that I remember seeing I saw him commenting on a football game where a field goal kick was missed, and I think he was talking to

his name, Chuck Woolery, Yep, yeah, Chuck Woolery. And then there was a woman who's been on ESPN or one of these other I think her name is Kate, not one hundred percent sure, but he was talking to them, and he talked about a field goal kick being missed in part possibly due to the spin or rotation of the Earth, And like I saw that, I guess twenty twenty one maybe when I was doing my research, and the person who posted it was just like, you know,

really going in on Neil de Grasse Tyson as he should, because it was such a ludicrous claim that it makes you think like, well, if a field goal Kicks association going to be a just or affected by the spin of the earth, And how are planes landing? You know, why do runways go all different kinds of directions? It just really it forces the person to be like, well, that doesn't make sense. And in trying to find that clip again, I've had more and more difficulty as time has gone on.

of the goalpost and went in. And I said, ooh, wait a minute, which stadium is this? What's the latitude? And I looked at the orientation of the stadium. I did a calculation, and then I tweeted the overtime winning field goal by the Cincinnati Bengals was likely aided by a one third of an inch deflection to the right imparted by Earth's rotation.

and you know, coming up with that name. They're very clumsy, so it doesn't seem like I don't understand how they'd survive in the wild. For them to be a type of bear, they should be eating meat. They should be carnivorous, right, But yet all they eat is either a eucalyptus or bamboo. I forget which one. I think it's a bamboo because a kowala is eat the eucalyptus. So the statement was made that pandas are fake, and some people took that to mean like they're like, it's a man in a

panda suit or something like that. They do they look I don't know, they look more present than other animals, but like other wild animals, and apparently they only like can reproduce one day out of the year. They're not very interested in reproducing. It just this doesn't seem like a species that would be able to survive. The last thing fact on pandas that really caught my attention is that every panda except one is owned by the country

of China. So if you go to the San Diego Zoo or whatever zoo maybe has a panda, those are on lease from the country of China. There was only one panda, and it was in Mexico female that was I guess owned by Mexico or not owned by China. And that panda was is or was too old to have children. So there are there's no threat of any pandas being born outside of being owned by China and all. That was just extremely interesting information. What you do with that,

I have no idea. I don't know what I'm supposed to do with it, but I just repeat the part that I remember and is there something there? It seems like it. I just don't know what it is. Like, I guess the last thing I'll say on it is it seems like maybe Panjas were bred almost dogs were, but in the bear community, and I just there's a lot that I don't know when it comes to breeds of dogs compared to breeds of bears.

of the last surviving species of Tataria.

possibly a good explanation. I'd love for anybody out there listening that maybe knows a little bit more about pandas. You said, you put my email on the notes. If they want to send me something, I'll love to look at it, because the panda thing is just it's it's it's the most unique thing to me because I know very everything I know about panda's possibly being fake.

they wouldn't really have that aggressive nature. And there was a zoo keeper that it said was attacked and it was in Asia, I would imagine China, and it just looked like a dog had grabbed a hold of it, and it was just it wasn't even like really vicious. The person was like patiently waiting for the attack to stop so that way they could you know, finish going on about their day taking care of the other animals or the enclosure area.

American Baptist minister educator. He's got all the names, and he was a thirty second degree Mason and past master of the Sejuin Lodge number one twelve from nineteen twenty one to nineteen forty two. And he also was responsible was responsible for putting over four hundred thousand specimens and things of that nature in the Smithsonian Institute. Which is enough.

to pay attention, right, You're just gonna keep talking. If a car drives by, you're going to be quiet and act like nothing's going on. So and these projects, by the way, the these birds that carry cameras and microphones, they've been going on since the seventies. Look at uh Operation uh to Kana. I think it is t A C A and a uh so they've been using birds as I don't want to say weapons, but they've been using birds as spy. Yeah, basically to surveil, Yes, to

surveil us, right the because we're the enemy. So yeah, it's the use of birds has gone back. But to simply say things like birds are fake, that that's the the negative kind of tatione that can chase people away from the truth community, right correct.

doing that. And I just I like everybody who's out there trying to spread the truth.

was ran. Like at the very least, that's borderline blasphemous from a religious conservative viewpoint, which is their whole entra And it just showed that he kind of wasn't it for the wrong reasons like you said.

because if you can't tell he's he looks different. You know, somebody put out it wasn't Greg Greece, but somebody put out a YouTube video the other night, and they claim that it's somebody else.

The guy who does it, I think his name's Jake, but he makes some pretty compelling has pretty compelling evidence at States. And I'm a bigger fan of David Knight, who was one of the guys who went by the wayside and yeah, Greg Racing.

connecting all the dots. I mean, I don't think you'll ever know, but I mean, somebody put an insurance policy on the towers, I guess months before it included acts of terrorism, and you know, cashed out very well. There's also people that shorted airline stocks that were directly affected

and of course made money there. Rumsfell with his announcement the day before on September tenth, about two point three trillion dollars being misplaced, and then the first ever building to collapse out of empathy for other buildings collapsing.

that picture on your wall for generations to come. And I'm here, I'm just speaking, you know, I'm talking to high ranking It wasn't like that, but in that nutshell and he's just kind of he looked at me. You tell it was tired. Maybe it was a moment of weakness. He just kind of, you know, he compared the Bushes to the Nazis, and I was like, no, he said, he said, the Bush family makes the Nazis look like Sesame Street. That was his exact words, and I was

like what. It didn't resonate, But I was going home after not seeing my family for a year, so I followed that in the back of my mind, you know, ten twelve years later, when I start to read Family of Secrets by Russ Baker and all of this stuff, then I realized, wait a second, go if you go all the way back to March thirtieth, nineteen eighty one, you know, the guy who supposedly tried to kill Reagan was family friends with the Bush like the Hinckleys were best friend with the Bushes.

Laden family. You don't say, And once again they're not the ones responsible, but they played the role in the game. And you have to be tight with people if one of you know, somebody in your family is going to be uh, you know, be used as the bad guy, right.

in the same neighborhood in California. All their parents were military intelligence, and all these groups were put in to kind of bring about the hippie movie to take away the anti I think it was used to kind of distract from Vietnam, which I think, let's go full circle here to the moon landing. I think that was a huge part of faking the moon landing was to distract from you know the amount of bodies that were coming back, these young men who were coming back in body bags every day from Vietnam.

pretty much it. And then in the sixties that was wild because it was a staged event for the Gulf of Tonkin to justify utilizing the draft to send people over to die. And that's man. I brought up this Bible verse before we started talking about it, and I don't need to read it now, but i'd like to read it if you didn't mind, before the show's over, and it just it just speaks to the evil associated with what they did and then what they told us, so like they made it seem like we had to

get involved, but in reality, they contrive that event. And then they've been using that same logic for everything. So I mean, they with the nine to eleven questions that you brought up earlier and some of the things that I said, that was used as justification to go to war over in the Middle East, you know, and it's just when I say in the Bible verse later it'll

they just goes. It makes a lot of sense. And you know, for me, peace came with a better relationship with God in prayer and just seeing history repeat itself and getting a better understanding has been very helpful.

But I have a bad feeling that something like that is going to go down, whether it's Diego, Garcia or somewhere in the Middle East, because I think they are ready. I think they're ready for their endgame. I think the people who are in charge now they don't want to pass this to the next generation to be overseen. I think they want, you know, their their Tower of Babble, their one world government, one world religion, their chips to buy and sell. I think they want it all very soon.

that's something that I have to be cognizant of. Otherwise I might talk at two time speed when I'm trying to convey points. But if they like videos or like, I've ran into a lot of people that don't have

TikTok accounts, so I'll go out of my way. I'll save the video to my camera roll on my phone so I can send it to them and I'm like, hey, this is worthwhile worth watching and it's not always flat earth because sometimes people need to be aware of something else, and I believe that once they see that something else,

they'll go on to the next thing. Because what I do like ending a lot of the things that I say is like everything is a lot, you know, you just pick a thing, it doesn't matter, like you pick a wild animal like a panda, you know, and there's a story behind it.

reading the King James version. It says, woe unto them that call evil good and good evil, that put darkness for light and light for darkness, that put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. The reason why that speaks to me so much, I think earlier I said, the tolerance that people have is used against them. And once you get somebody to start tolerating something that they shouldn't, things can go awry very quickly. And I think that

we need to be very mindful of that. And you know that's such an evil thing to do, is you take someone's compassion and you use it against them to subvert the community, subvert the person that they think they're helping by being tolerant of the thing they should be intolerant of. And you know, if if something is in you that shouldn't be in you, then there's less space for the stuff that should be in you to be

in you. So that could be God's love, could be the Word, could be just doing the things that we should be doing on a daily basis. So you know that Bible verse does speak to me Isaiah five point twenty.

The Bible says. I'm just telling you what the Bible says. George didn't say that these are the words from God. And that's once again where even some I call them like beer the Christian's light. They they're Christians, they go to church on Sunday, but they follow the worldly narrative, right, whether it's the New Methodist Church, the Global Methodist Church, or I don't like to group people into things, but people again, who said they're Christians but they tolerate sin?

Just what is it everybody's seen that bumper sticker says coexist with all the different symbols on it. Yeah, yeah, no one thing. God does not coexist with sin, period, end of story.

there's just no other way around it. And that's one thing that I've become very adamant about, is I if you deny Jesus, I'm not I'm not empathetic. I know, I'm empathetic is the wrong word. Like we need to have a conversation, you know, if you're if you're against Jesus, then like the conversation that I feel needs to be had is well why, you know, why? Why are you why don't you believe or do you think he didn't exist? And then typically they answer no, I think he exists. Okay,

do you think he died? And they typically say, yeah, I think he died. Do you think he rose from the dead? And then that's where you might get a little bit of pushback, and then you can kind of speak to the people that saw him after the fact. You can speak to the miracles, the time, everything that helps prove that he lived a sinless life, died and rose from the dead. So that way we can spend eternity because we needed we need that salvation. There is

no salvation without sacrifice. And it's really interesting because that line does get put into a lot of movies that are made in Hollywood, which again is not of God typically, but that line there is no salvation without sacrifice, has been in a handful of movies not too long ago.

This is a deceiver and an anti Christ. And this is the type of verbiage that we should be using. If someone, an individual, particularly a person in power, you know, pushes things again where they you know that Jesus Christ has not come in the flood. These are deceivers. These are anti Christ. And when something is Antichrist, we need to use the proper verbiage in that.

gmail dot com. Come on and share your story. If you want to come on with a pseudonym, right, if you're Nancy from New York, you can come on as you know Karen if you'd like you know, I get it.

But at the same time, the story is more important, the honesty, the showing your faith in Christ and how it's affected your life truly, and I can tell you from all the emails we get, truly gives comfort to others knowing that there are other people who you know, whether it be they live, they have put on the sunglasses and they can see how the world truly operates, and you are not alone. And we have given you many,

many examples of that. And again, Sterling, thank you so much for coming on and sharing your story, and God bless you and your family. Brother, thank you very much.