The following presentation is Del Marvis Studios Production. Welcome back truth seekers from around the world. It's time for another edition of the flat Earth Files podcast. I hope this podcast finds you well as we record on this Friday evening, April fifth, right around seven pm Eastern time, where it is Saturday, April the sixth, nine am in Brisbe, Australia. Simon will be joining us in just a moment before we get started, just a couple of quick
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April nineteenth, Waco, Texas April twentieth. Please stop by the fact Hunter dot com for details and if you're in that area, I'd love to shake your your hand and say hello. I'm Rusty I haven't done an interview on about a week. So here we go. Our guest joining us tonight, as we said, from Brisbane, Australia, and we've actually I went back and look, we've been chatting for a year now and it's finally great to meet them in person and have a conversation. Please help me. Welcome Simon,
Simon. How are you doing today, sir, Hey, George. It's great to meet you, and it's great to actually talk with you after doing the emails for probably about a year now. It's an honor and I'm very I'm very conscious of the of the responsibility of you know, all the listeners out there who are who are using their precious time to listen to this
interview. So hopefully there's something in my personal journey that that resonates with some of the listeners listeners out there, like we're all on this pathway to discovering the truth about the reality of what we were the world we live in. And I think there's some fellowship as well in this process. We need each other. We need to give each other encouragement and we need confirmation as well.
You'll have realizations and you want to share that with someone to go, do you see what I'm seeing and sort of and build that fire, you know, yeah, grow great point all around. And you know, I've learned something from every single you know, individual that's come on this podcast, and just from having a brief conversation before we hit the record button. I expect to learn quite a bit from you as well before we do get started into our deep dive into your journey to the truth and flat Earth. Go
ahead and introduce yourself to the audience. Yeah, certainly. Okay. So I'm fifty three. I'm trained as an electrical engineer and I've worked as an engineer for a number of years, but I've changed my career path quite a few times. I've done English teaching in South Korea for four and a half years, and I work prior to that, worked as an engineer up and
down the coast of Australia. I've worked in Switzerland. I've traveled to many different countries India, Japan, Germany, South Africa, New Zealand many times. And I've done about fifteen years working at the local university as a lab tech for the engineering faculty. So that's kind of my career experience. I'm the eldest of three. I grew up in Yupom, which is a small town near Rockampton. So Brisbane is the time zone. But I live in
a small city called Rockampton, about a population of eighty thousand. We're known as the cattle city of Central Queensland. You can look it up. And I'm single. I was married, but I don't think I had relationship skills, so I'm back to being single again. But I don't have any kids. I think if I had kids, I would have done everything possible to make that work. So I was raised by a philosopher. My dad's a
philosopher, so that kind of creeps into my thinking. I do believe in God, and I recently had an understanding of how Jesus fits into my life, which I've shared with George. So so, George third person, Sorry, so do you know who? What I realized at that time? Excuse my nerves stumbling up a few words there. Yeah, So I like gardening. I've got lots of banana trees here, and my dad used to grow banana trees as a kid as well. The flying foxes get into them.
Just throwing some random stuff out there. I've recently got my driver my rider's driver's license from a motorcycles. That's a big achievement. And now I'm sort of sending retired. I do your door dash. You got have probably a DoorDash over there, so Ian some money from that. And I've got a couple of housemates. That's awesome. And I'd like to ask a few questions just on the brief things that you mentioned there in your introduction. What was
South Korea like and what what did you take away from South Korea? A great question. Look, I absolutely love the country. I miss it not all the time, but I think about it quite frequently. The food, You've got to try Korean food, you know, it's I mean, I love all Asian food, but Korean food it's just so delicious. I'm sure
everyone knows about Korean barbecue for example. They're very friendly people. If they if you meet them through teaching, you know, if you have an adult class, I'll invite you to the home or want to show you around the city. They're extremely friendly. I just love them. Yeah, my father was a huge Kim Chief fan. Kimsey, that's right, that's an aquality taste. I wasn't a huge fan of Yeah, it is it is I said, I wasn't a big fan of it. It's an acquired taste,
but that is it. It's definitely healthy though, if you can stomach it, and then it's interesting. I've done a lot of podcast on my The Fact Hunter about Switzerland and you know, you've got cern over there, You've got the World Economic Forum, the banking headquarters for Yeah, you've got Geneva, and a lot of people say, you know, London is really the capital of the banking world, but the Bank of International Settlements where everything you
know meets it ahead, is in Man. I'm blanking on the city, but that's in Switzerland as well. What was your takeaway of Switzerland? Oh? Look, geographically just a magnificent country. What Australia Shellia is pretty much a flat country. We've got heels and we've got a couple of mountains, like the Snow Mountains where people go to do skiing, but by and large it's a flat country. So you go to Switzerland and you're aware of this
vertical dimensioned the mountains, the valleys. It's just so spectacular. I think Swiss are very proud of their heritage. I got introduced to other other things, like I used to like techno music, so I first discovered that in Switzerland. I had my first mobile fine in Switzerlandland. I used to roll a blade there. Yeah, it's There's one thing about Swiss is that you could they're very proud of their heritage, I guess, yeah, and they
have a strong sense of identity. Sure, yeah, absolutely. And one thing I always you know, I traveled through Europe for a while there, all the way from Croatia, Hungary, Austria, Germany, that whole area
up there, and for Americans to see the way they utilize transportation. I've never been to Australia, so I'm not sure how big public transportation is there, but most of Europe really moves around on public transportation, and people remark about how advanced it is compared to especially here in the United States, where you see, you know, every day there seems to be a news story coming from New York City where someone is assaulted or even killed in the subway.
How could you comment on the public transportation system over there and how it differs from the rest of the world. He raise a very good point, like the trains would run exactly on time. They're very Laura Biding I experienced the same thing in Korea. They had a very good public transport system as well. Korea was nine for their internet as well. I mean it was
holly developed from twenty years ago. Even Yeah, I just keep thinking about how beautiful the country was, and they would build everything extremely well, like all the houses and all the apartment buildings would have nuclear bomb shelters. Really, I think they had a big fear of nuclear war. I remember the big heavy steel concrete doors that were that were down in the basement area for example. That's interesting the country that is the neutral country and never really been
involved in a war. That's interesting to know that they had the Oh yeah, every male has keeps their weapons. They trained in the military and they have the weapons at home ready to go. So good luck invading that country, you know. And it's funny Switzerland, that's one thing most people don't know. It's I think it's a law that you have to maintain a weapon in that country if you're male. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's a And one of those little known facts. You said your father was a
philosopher, and in many aspects, I think philosophy encourages critical thinking. Did your father have a big influence on your critical thinking skills. Good question. When I think about my dad's influence, I remember being very young, about eight or nine years old, and I was suddenly realized that that the I thought about the concept of death, and it really scared me. And I think that that's when Dad told me about God and it gave me a lot
of peace. And philosophy allows me. It allows me to process the experiences I have in life and find peace. And you know, I can get philosophical about things, so so it certainly help. It's been very helpful in my life. There's something else that's got to mention, and it's just slip on line that's annoying. That's that's a goodt you made, though, because
I recalled being younger too and the thought of death. I think the first real big thing was I remember, I think in nineteen seventy nine, nineteen eighty and Wars got killed. He was the president of Egypt at the time, and that was a big deal. But the one thing that really got me as a young person I might have been a young teenager was the move
bombing in Philadelphia. It was these it was a group they called themselves a Black Liberation organization and the mayor dropped a bomb on the roof and it caught fire and all these people were burned alive inside. And as a young person, when you see these events like that, it is borderline traumatizing because you know, I talked to people who were seven, eight, nine, ten years old when nine to eleven happened, and that impacted them very deeply.
Even as an adult during wake Go watching you know, April nineteenth ninety three, watching that building burn and knowing that there was people in there, it is very traumatic and it does make you question, you know, the afterlife if you will, and these it's sad that these type of events have to happen for us to you know, maybe I should get closer to God, right, hmmm. That's the second thing I was going to mention was critical
thinking. I feel. I think that I'm pretty much a very emotional person. I think of Italians and how expressive and emotional they can get. They get very passionate. They talk about I'm not Italian. My milneages from Scotland and Holland. Those are the two roots of my ancestry. But I found that a lifetime of doing engineering and as a lab tech. That helped me with my critical thinking, so it really gave me a lot of balance to
my emotional nature. I can sit there and analogze things logically and rationally, and and we've got some good caveats now into the meat of the main topic here. You know you mentioned nine to eleven. Yes, I remember being in Korea and the big television there and watching the plans crash into the building. Uh. Those are moments you will just never forget. They just stand
out so clearly. I remember when Princess Diana died in the tunnel when he was she was getting chased by the paparazzi, and there was a whole bunch of conspiracy theory about that that came out years later. You talk about Waco. I also remember that event too, So so these events so like I think everyone knows about them. It's just amazing. Now something made me think about this whole, the whole vaccine thing, like we all need to talk
about it, right, I mean, that's that's the big one. And I don't know if you were going to lead into that at some point directly, but U I think that's where critical thinking helped me. So I'm trained as an engineer. What that means is that you can't just throw a solution at a problem. You'll blow up a lot of equipment, you waste money,
you could probably even cause injury, you know, electrocution whatever. Because I'm trained in an electrical field, and I just instinctively, you know, when I heard about the emergency youth authorization, I thought, hang on, let's think about this. Logically, most vaccines take at least ten years of testing, right, and they're very very careful before they roll out, unless,
of course, you listen to the audiobook by the Kennedy guy. He talks about see now names of my real week point here, Yeah, Robert, Robert F. Kennedy Junior. I think, great, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got halfway through that and I just could the stomach anymore. Because I'm a very empathetic person and I'm very good at visualization, I just couldn't get any get through anything for more of it. But the point is that I thought, no, you can't just throw out in most of
you authorization and then it's going to work. That's Russian roulette. So because I was trained as an engineer, I just put the brakes on that. But we were there was a blitzkrig style approach to rolling out this attack on human race, and I could sense it for what it was, and fortunately for me, I stopped watching television. The TV. My dad used to
call the TV the idiot boox. And it's interesting that you got this idea of TV program I always thinking about programmers in computer programming, so we call TV show also a TV program. And essentially it's it's subconsciously programming your mind, so whate you whatever you look at. It's like those three monkeys,
and I'm jumping around over the place. But he and evil seeing evil speak no evil, and so you've really got to be careful about what you look at and what you listen to because it just goes straight into your sub consciousness and it forms the base of your understanding for your reality. And instead I'm kicking in the philosopher overdrive now. But I think these analogies do make sense because there's that engineering aspect to it as well. And there's that really creepy
guy who talks about hacking the human body. Well he does essentially look at the human body as just a biological machine. And I can understand that analogy from an engineering perspective, but I also acknowledge that, yes, from a biological level, that's true, but we do have that spiritual component. Now. I know that the term spiritual gets associated lot of of other stuff, But what I'm talking about is the is God, our soul. That's what
that's what inhabits the space within our body. And George, I hope you don't mind, but there's something I like to share with you about this topic. It's a huge topic, and that is that everything that's going on around us, you know, except maybe the birds and the you know, the bananas growing on my tree and cute cats and stuff like this, it's it's about separating us from the creator. So there's all this sort of there's all this there's so much going on right now to invade our personal space. I
look upon our body as a physical temple to the Holy Spirit. It's a temple to the Holy Spirit. And we need to maintain that temple so that the Holy Spirit is willing to inhabit our bodies. And why do we need that? That gives us the blessings from God, which is wisdom, love, empathy, hope, joy, intelligence, the capacity to see beauty in this world. Now, if we violate the temple, which is our body. We no longer make it a hospitable place for the Holy Spirit, which
keeps us connection with God. Now the temple is violated through drugs, chemicals, and I hope no one gets too triggered here. But I also my personal opinion is tattoos do damage your body as well. But that's a personal opinion. I'm not only attack anybody out there, all right, but that's
my personal thoughts. So we were Really it's really encumberent upon us to maintain that our mental and physical space to a premium in order to keep that connection with God, because that's really the only thing that's getting us through on our own. Really, honestly, George, I'm a little bit dumb, even though I'm in trainer as an engineer. I've got a high score. I've
got a very good score at university high school. Sorry, I've done some really stupid things in my life and it made me realize that I need to have God there. God, I need God's guidance to get through things, to survive. So that's a bit of a mash of stuff that I just
put out there. But this vaccine, for example, I mean I've been a big Alex Jones fans for a long long time, and I know your opinion, I know your thoughts on Alex Jones and and I'm not really debating that, but it has been a delivery mechanism for a lot of information that I have processed in my mind. Now, if I just relied on that alone, I think it would be I think there's a danger in glorifying evil too much. When I say glorifying, I mean focusing just on evil all
the time and emotionally reacting to evil all the time. What you're actually doing is you're actually empowering evil. And that suits, that suits the purpose of Satan just fine, right absolutely, And there is that's a distruction, right yep, yep. And I think we touched on on the Creator all the
times. Sorry no no, I was just going to say, and we touched on that briefly before we hit the record button, to where there's a big difference between cognizant of something, being aware of something, and focusing on it twenty four seven three sixty five, because that, like you said, it empowers evil, but it also can put you in a state of depression. There you go, So that's stealing your joy. You see see how
the enemy works. The enemy working on us all the time. Absolutely, But if you're aware of it, and if this I'm a big believer in humility, I say, humble yourself before the creator. Because the enemy relies on pride. You can do what you want, you know everything, you don't need anyone. Da da da da da da da. And then look what happens down down the road. You're in a lot of trouble. I say, pride comes before the fall. That's right. And so I'm a
big believer in humility. You've got to acknowledge where everything comes from gep sayings. And so I don't mean to turn this into a sermon or something, but now you're on a roll. You're doing trendous job, you know, sharing your your thoughts and your you know. And it's something again that we spoke about before we hit the record button, and it's something that I try to you know, they say practice what you preach, Because I do have a podcast. We do talk about the evils of the world. And pride
is something that they have put out in the forefront. Probably over the last ten to twelve years. They have really been pushing pride and about me, about the individual, about you. And we are in a generation and I'm not just saying particular generation z. I'm just saying we're to time. I guess that's the proper word to use. That we're in a time where it's about us, the selfie. You know, we have our social media where we focus on ourselves and it goes full circle to what you just said,
you know, pride before the fall. So we do need more humility in this time. The thing, one of them is division and the other one is the full inversion. So division. You can see division at work in nearly every society now divided on on skin color, I mean far out all ab our blood is red, you'll bleed red. You know, we've got so much in common. But but if we but we'll always find something different. We can always argue about something. But but in the end, that's
just division. So we've got division on race, age, religion. Religion is an easy one to pick on politics, diet, what's the shape of this world? We're living in? Stuff like this And I've got this cap, a one nation cap. Now I'm not a political person, but I just picked it up. It's that's basically the mega version. Uh. You know America got maga make make a great America great again. Well that's that's Australia's equivalent to that, that mindset, which is one nation. But but
see the division is the opposite to that. They don't want unity, they want everything broken up. Now that's something I remember seeing down at Port Arthur and we talked about that, I think prior to the interview. Starting down in Port Arthur. So this country was built off the labor of convicts, which were the which were prisoners, excess prisoners from England. Uh, and they were sending to America. And then America basically gained its independence of the
American Civil War, not civil war, sorry, war of independence. What's it called, George the independence for War of independence? Yeah? Independence right, yeah, so then sending its convicts to Australia one of its new colonies. Now, they showed it down in Port Arthur, which is one of
the camps there, the Stone Camps prisons. Sorry, they showed a picture of how the prison was structured and every prisoner was in their own cubicle facing a central point where the gods would sit right in the middle, and no prisoner could talk to each other. So there was total division there, and that's how you you weaken the power of something by putting as much division as
you can in the other one is full inversion. So full inversion is where you take the natural order of things or the what's taught in the Bible. Again, this is this is something that may trigger people. I never knew this term until a few years ago, but it is my heartfelt opinion that the man is the spiritual head of the home. And why I say that is because he's there to protect the home from the enemy, right, He's there to protect it from other men and from and above that, you've got
Jesus and then God and that's the hierarchy, and you've got mom. And that doesn't mean that man is superior to women. They're actually equal, but their roles are different. The woman has a very important role too, and that is to nurture children. I find that children are growing out without love. And if you don't have love, you don't have that kernel of love in your heart. You will have an emptiness there for the rest of your
life. Because this is something I've experienced personally, right, So I'm not hating on my mom I'm not blaming my mom. This is a practical reality and you can try and fulfill that with relationships. And you're wondering why everyone seems to let you down, it's because you're trying to fill a black hole and abysin inside you that could have only been filled by your mother's love. So women are extremely important. I think a woman as being the center of
the home. It's like this the center of a spoked wheel. If you don't have that there, the spokes don't have anything to connect to, and a man is outside protecting that area. He's the guardian of the home, you know. He's the one that you know the teenaged order dresses very in a provocative way or say darling, I love you. But if you go out that way, boys is going to think about you a certain way and you need to be ready for that. And I'm not trying to control you.
But it's my job to give you advice from a male perspective so you can make better decisions. So it's a shame that men have been painted there as this draconian oligarchs patriarchal oligarchs are just there to bully and do power over people. I don't believe that's the truth. You met very good. You
made a very good point that I want to kind of punctuate. And there is I think in this time, maybe over the last twenty, maybe even thirty years, where parents are more worried about being their children friends than assuming the proper role of a parent. And it's the same thing. I always
go back to military analogies. They move people around every three or four years just so you don't develop a friendship within the ranks, because there has to be a role, there has to be a hierarchy, and love and nurturing are is something that we don't see as much of, and it comes off of just you know, at look around you. There is a lot of I don't know if it's because there's so many people growing up in broken homes
or people again are more worried about being friends than being parents. But whether it's discipline or just common interactions with people here locally, there's no politeness. I simon, and when I was fourteen years old, if I was anywhere, if I was church about as a restaurant, if I didn't say sir or ma'am, I was going to get it from my dad. That just doesn't exist anymore. Mmmm. So yeah, so that's just all that's just
all work of the enemy. And the thing is that being a truther is that you're in a position where you where you can see where things coming from. You're no longer blind. You know, you know, you know the en. We're on a battlefielder here, okay, and you know the you know the psyche of the enemy, and you know who, and you know where your strength and your wisdom and everything else is coming from. So you knew that the two principal players on this battlefield are you know who they are?
Sorry, one of my hands off the screen. And I think that's that's what we need. You can't afford to be ignorant anymore. That's not ignorance, really isn't an option. And I think that ties in, that's a nice caveat into the big sub which hope we don't run out of time as the whole the flatter thing and people saying, well, why does it matter? But it matters because you need to because it's part of the truth, and you need to know the truth in order to navigate through this war
zone. And that doesn't mean that you're in conflict yourself personally. I use the word navigate, So just like in a ship, you don't have to crash onto the rocks. You see where the rocks are, you see where the shallows are, because you've got the cartography, the maps, and you navigate through all these dangers. So this is very essential information. But what
I noticed is that again I use the term enemy, the enemy. What they do is what it does, and what they do is they paint truth seekers and anyone speaking the truth with the most aura of it three negative terms. It's quite slanderous, actually, and they try to associate someone who's sending up with a truth with something that you don't want to be associated with. It's quite a clever trick, you know, like you know these terms,
all the isms that they it's it's almost like a knee jerk reaction. As soon as someone tries to point out an issue, you get labeled with something. And it's such an effective tool to shut people, shut people down, and and people will just wall off. Okay, well we won't dig into that any further. And again that's another excellent lead in because you think about it, from an early age, we're told what reality is, you know, that's the education system. And you know, I've worked in the education
system. I've got my career. I worked as an English teacher in South Korea for four and a half years. I was a lab tech at university for fifteen years. I've worked in the education system, and I often wondered, why don't they ever teach us anything about our personal health, maintaining our personal health, how to find peace, how to negotiate with people, how to deal with people who are mentally unstable or or just upset, how to
deal with yourself when you're upset. It's not always about everyone else, it's also ourselves. Why don't they teach us life skills because they don't want us to be strong and self aware, you know, they train us to be pieces of machinery. They just go into a machine and produce unit X or Unit Y until we were out and we're broken, and then we're just replaced. That's right. I think Rockefeller was the one who said, I don't
want a nation of thinkers, I want a nation of war workers. Oh saying it being and saying you're a critical think is probably the most threatening thing that you can be in terms of those that want to maintain the status quo. You know, think about it. It's all about the question. Yeah, the answers out there, but the financewers. You've got to ask the question. The power is in the question. If you can figure out what that question is, you can just unlock and disassemble a whole bunch of stuff,
you know. And if you don't know what the question is, just say why why do I have to wear this mask? I wore that mask for probably a week and I just said, I can't breathe through this stupid thing. This is crazy. Yeah, and I can see you wear glasses. There's nothing more frustrating than wearing that thing. Your glasses get off, fugged up. It's a mess. Yeah. Yeah, I had to start doing. I prided myself and my ability to see things, and probably from
a few years ago. To start wearing glasses is a lifetime of sitting in front of a computer. Means you've got IRSI and one joint and you start need to wear glasses, you know. So look again, I'm conscious of all the listeners to this show, and whatever I say, please, you know, if you want, just take it with a pinch of salt. I'm not trying to I am not trying to change anyone. I'm not trying to influence anyone. This is just my personal thoughts. I ultimately I believe
in don't do power over people, don't cause harm, respect people. I honestly believe that we have freedom of choice. We were given freedom to choose what we want to do, and that's why all these things are happening in this world is because we have freedom of choice. But what we don't have is freedom from the consequences of those choices that's locked in. Those are the rules. That's the bedrock of this reality that we existing and that was created
by our creator. So it really is appropriate to figure out what those rules are. You know that then you can that leads to smarter decision making. Absolutely. You know. The first email I got from me, like I said, was about a year ago, and you had mentioned that there was a YouTuber divergent that made you start noticing the truth right in front of you, and you put in I Guess flat Earth into the podcast search and you
found us. But it's interesting going back and reading it. You said it was obvious yesterday morning looking at the sunrise, How could the sun rays be shining down at such different angles if it's supposed to be so far away, and you said, even using trigonometry, it's easy to see that the sun is actually much smaller than our known world, and it is sitting just above
the clouds. And it is when you finally break through the matrix and all the things that we're told and we start believing what we're seeing versus what we're told. It's a pretty amazing thing. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, Yeah, that's something I think about all the time. And I'll be lying and lying in my bed or just doing something and I'm just sort of thinking in the back of mind, just turning this idea over in my mind over and
over again. And the first time I remember watching the Divergent videos, it just popped up my YouTube feed for some reason. I think they've got an AI algorithm, and the AI knows you better than you know yourself sometimes. And the first time I saw it, it was too much. It was just too it was just too different to my understanding of what reality was.
And I almost had to take a step back. And then a period of time passed and then I went back in and had a look at it, and I started thinking about what the guy was saying now I think he's he's not particularly religious, he's probably probably eight years. But again it's a delivery mechanism. So this is where the engineering kicks. And you just look at
the information and you go, does this information make sense? And I was just sketching out something on my notebook the other day actually looking at some information. Some data points, like the diameter of the Sun is one point roughly one point four million kilometers, now, of course being Australia US kilometers not
miles, so please excuse that in diameter. The Earth is about twelve point seven thousand kilometers in diameter, but the two are separated by Let me try and get this number around one hundred and forty nine nearly one hundred and fifty million kilometers. Now, if you scale that as though the diameter of the Earth is just a unit of one, then the Sun is eighteen times bigger.
And the Sun is still eleven nearly twelve thousand earth units away. So that means that the the angle of the Sun's rays the steepest angle apart from Australian that's zero degrees. Okay, if it's directly coming in the steepest angle, get this is point zero zero zero zero zero zero one two degrees. Okay, you see how many zeros are there. I mean, it's just
about parallel. Okay. Now, if you're standing there and you're looking at the sunrise and sunset whatever, and the sun rays are literally coming out at every different angle, well that's not that's not point zero zero zero zero zero zero one two degrees is it's it's just impossible. The only way that sun could produce angles of light are those different directions if it was the sitting right behind the cloud, like right behind it. As you pull that sun back
further and further away, like, let's try and do this. Okay, it's on video, so it's probably not going to translate through a podcast. And I've got my job olive leaf extract tablets and a little round circle thing. Now, as I pull it further away, yes, okay, only the parallel light is going to come past those clouds. But as you bring it up closer and closer, yeah, those sun rays are going to be pointing more more at more extreme angles around the cloud. It's just so obvious.
You know, that's way of the biggest one. But then you look at the horizon line and the clouds don't bend around the horizon, right, if there's curvature, Like I was a big science fiction fan, and there's this idea of a I forget what it's called. It's like a physical construction of a giant ring, like the computer game Halo, which I'm an ex
game. I used to love playing Halo. There were Halo rings and on inside of the ring were mountains and seas and rivers, so fantastic, and you could see the clouds bending around the inside curvature of the ring, and there's this artificial sun or a real sun in the center of the ring. Well, the same would be the case if we were sitting on a globe. Those clouds would be bending as they go around the globe. But they don't. They taper off to a pin almost a pinpoint where it's just basically
a white line. If you get enough altitude you can see you're gonna be on top of a mountain or a hill that actually see this, and it's completely straight. The horizon line has no band to it as far as you can see and look a lot of these things have been already touched on probably
a million times by other flat earthers in the community. Now, there's one guy that I follow on Facebook and he does some great videos, uh you know, the the flight paths for example, and he'll actually show why does this plane go above this Green Island or Iceland before it comes back down to somewhere in Europe? And he'll say, before you guys, have a go at met because I'm used showing you on a flat map. Here's a globe and you get this thing which is like a bendable ruler, but it's a
straight ruler, so it can bend. But I mean wraps at round in CoA c. It's still below this island, So why would you go around the island like that? Just wasting aviation fuel? Yeah, and I thought that too because I traveled a lot internationally in the military, and on those long flights you had, they always had the map showing your current and I'm like, why are we not going straight across? Why are we doing this curve? None of it made any sense, But it's it's the Again.
I preach so many things. People say, well, how do we fix this? How do we fix this? I honestly believe it starts with the education system. It needs to be, especially here in America. It has to be completely rebuilt, and it should be even below the state. It should be community based education, and many of the things that you mentioned earlier should be included gardening. But again, those are things that the controllers see
is dangerous and they just want us thirteen years. At the city of Baltimore, forty five minutes from me, there's so many people who graduate thirteen years of school and they can't read. It's just really sad. Yeah, that's right. So what's the point of what's the real point of the education system is to disable us actually, and to incapacitate us and fill our head out with stuff that's just useless information. Most of it's useless and not a mass
that I studied was incredible. Now, I don't use any masks for multiplied divide when I'm figuring out going to do my tax return and how much money I've earned, and I just do that on a spreadsheet. Anyway, there's a there's an expression, and again I'm at the resk of defending a whole swathe of people. I heard this expression that the priests would use, which was get them when they're six, and you've got them for life. So
if they can introduce their belief system. And this is a bit close to home, so I'm got a bit careful here, But the idea of getting getting this constructive information into a person's mind and their formative years, it's very, very hard for them to separate that out because it's in the bedrock of their subconscious. So you planted this stuff in right at the very early stage of their life, and they can't actually break free from that after that.
So yeah, it does keep coming back to the education system. And I know you've talked about homeschooling with other guests on the show, and I think we only we only need a few people to to hold society together, just a handful, just to keep the power stations going and keep everything going. We're at a point now where technology is allowed allowed us a lot of us really to be kind of not really very very useful, and we can still
get food and shelter and everything else as long as there's a handful. Unfortunately, though, you know you've heard this useless eaters termed by Bill Gates. Uh. This, guys, they're they're really they really need to get back to reality, you know, like, guys, get out of your mansions and start working for a living you know, go and do get your hands dirty some gardening. There's a lot to be said for reconnecting with nature, and we're getting re in touch with reality. I think they've got this,
They've got this God syndrome thing happening. They sort of think that they're God's and I've heard that that Lucifer Satan says that we can all be God's. Well, but wasn't that the whole core issue Satan. Satan basically said, well, I want to be a God too, and God say no, you can't, there's only one, and so he got thrown out of heaven. But Satan hasn't given up on that, on that that mindset, and that's what that's where pride comes in. Oh, you can do everything yourself,
you don't need anyone because you're a god, aren't you? And then you see all this this horrible destructive behavior coming out of it because once you remove again I'm getting getting a preachure here, But once you remove God out, what what would you expect except hell? You know, why would it be good? You're gonna You're gonna have hell on earth. And that's what they're pushing toward, right, They really are oh exactly. Yeah, I'll
make my kingdom here. Then that's fine, that's it, That's exactly it. How did how did flat earth change your life? You know, people come on and for some people they got it and understood it moved on. For some people, like myself, it was a bit of a struggle and reprogramming and accepting different things. How did it affect you once you understood that we were on a flat plane with the antarctica, you know, encircling us versus we live on a ball hurtling through space. Yeah, yeah, look,
great question. And I know how other people responded. They've been quite stunned at the realization. Almost feel sad. I didn't have this major, you know, two weeks some just blowing away moment because I was like Geesez, I wonder what that would have felt like, but I was I was just like, as you said, I shared that moment with you when I was in another city driving along and I saw the clouds and I realized I had to pull over for a moment and just look at it and just con
and played significance of it. And I still do that even now. It's still quite wondrous to me. And so there wasn't one big stunning personal transformation moment. It's more like, oh, okay, And then I applied that up grade to my understanding on everything that I knew, and I could upgrade everything. I could upgrade all the knowledge and see things with a clearer perspective, you know. Like example, why the rockets keep bending before they try
to escape Earth, Well, because they can't escape Earth. They just go up and then they bend over and they land somewhere else, you know, or they crash into the frament like like elon musk rockets. They keep hitting it, you know, and I go, oh, yeah, that looks like waves and yeah, so I can't understand it because there's water on top of it. It's just like doing that and yeah. So the other aspect of that is that I'm kind of a bit of a hermit, so I
don't really have any much of a social group. It's probably why I'm so nervous doing this interview actually, so I didn't really have many people. It didn't really impact on me socially. And also some of the mind that people can be quite cruel when you present them with an idea or a perspective or opinion that differs to their own. And this is great because I wanted to touch on this. We are so driven to be part of the group,
like this is the hurt mentality. We do it. We do it because we need to feel safe and secure, right, And of course anyone that doesn't conform to that is a threat to the herd, which is why there was so much towards anyone who wasn't getting the jab or putting their mask on or whatever. We were treated as a threat to the herd. So there's that whole conformity thing. And I've always been aware of that, which is why I've tended to keep my opinions to myself. And I've been used to
doing that. But I at the same time, I like to make oblique comments or sort of indirect comments about things rather than taking things head on. And I'll say things like, just you know, it's just amazing how we're spending at one thousand miles per hour. For some reason, it's easier to remember than in kilometers per hour. You know, one thousand, six hundred and sixty six kilometers per hour. How does clouds hold the geosynchronous position perfectly
still when there's no win? Those clouds don't move. It's amazing. I actually said this to the guy once who's he knew everything. I was a very intelligent guy, so I just you know, it's amazing. I think, oh, yeah, that's the force of gravity, you know, and electrical something something, and yeah, that makes no sense at all. But
I'm not going to argue with you. It's sort of like, if I use the political example, the reason for all the problems in the world is because of Trump, right, I mean we know that, you know, Trump is the reason why everything is wrong with the world. That's right, you know that's right. So I'm not necessarily pro jump, right, I'm
Australian. What has it got to do with me. It's got nothing to do with me, right, Although I do tend to lean towards I think the selection is going to have some big impacts around the world, for sure. But see now I've lost my thread. What was I saying? I think this is the cam trials George, Oh my good. Yeah, they've been spreading here like crazy. We've had rain all week long, this is and then we had an earthquake today. I think this is the second earthquake
that I ever felt on the East Coast. And I mean I was in the military movement around, but it's very rare for us to have an earthquake here on the East coast. And this afternoon, I think it was a four point eight hit New Jersey, which is right next to us, and a little further up north where we live. My sisters and friends they felt
it. We found it a little bit here. But again, we are really and I'll ask you this, how much of this do you think is actually whether it be harp or other things like Operation Popeye that they used in Vietnam to plant the cloud seeds and to forest rain, how much of the weather and earthquakes and these things are manipulated? And obviously we know they have technology much more advanced than what we know of, But sticking with the weather
and earthquake theme, how much of that do you think is controlled? Yeah? Look, great question. This is my mindset? Is this. I keep an open mind on everything. That doesn't mean I'm tolerant of everything. I'm talking about information and I just wait, You've got to have patience, Just got to wait. Keep an open mind, don't block information, don't prematurely filter out information, keep it in mind, and let the chips fall
where they may. It's like it's jigsaw puzzle. It's a massive jig so puzzle and you've just got to allow the pieces to just slowly drop into place and be patient. So I have a definitely open open mind on that. This is termed plausible deniability. So I think that is a fantastic way, and I use that word in a rather ludicrous application of that word. This is not fantastic way of conducting warfare is where the warfare and geo warfare because
you, oh, well, it's got nothing to do with us. Whereas if someone drops a bomb, well, if you find the serial code on it, you can you can find out where it was manufactured. Right. I'm not an person, but that was my understanding is you can do it forensics on it and identify where it came from. Absolutely. So yeah, it's like it's like that Maui thing, you know, like, oh,
there were just fives and you know it's an electrical fault. Okay, amazing how the aluminium on those cars melted and yet the trees right next to it and not burnt down. I remember seeing it the first time, and jeesuz, that was horrifying, you know, because I could see the truth of it, like there was I had no filter. My head was not in the sand, okay, like the Ostrich sticks its head in the sand.
So I could see it for what it was directly, and I almost had to take I almost reeled in shock because it hit me to the core that the evil of it, you know, it just it was just so it just throcked me, you know, so I had to take a step back. And you mentioned that before. We've got to keep a balance on that, otherwise it can overwhelm us. And I think ultimately that's one of the goals of the enemy is to disturb you and Rocky, to create a disturbance
in your psyche, you know. And I don't want to bounce around, but something I meant to ask you earlier, And forgive me for not answering or asking you at that point. But you know, back in twenty twenty twenty one, et cetera, I felt like when I was doing my radio show, I was on three times a week, meant much of my time was spent talking about the tyranny that was going on in Australia. How did you, Oh yeah, how was it for you? Again? When you
think of countries like New Zealand and Canada and Australia. Prior to twenty twenty, I didn't think of those places as like these tyrannical strongholds, and I was amazed. Well even here, we had a lot of it here in the States. But well, from your first person point of view, what was it like watching churches get shut down and all the things that you saw firsthand? Fantastic question, George. I'm glad you asked, sir. And
look, I've been jump around all over the place too. Well. Lucky for me, I lived in central queens and Rock Camps and Queensland were probably the probably the nicest in terms of lockdowns. It's a horrifying thought when you realize hang on with a lucky and then suddenly Victoria or Melbourne Victoria. So Melbourne is the capital city of Victoria and I'm in the state of Queensland.
Uh. It's known as the benchmark for lockdowns. The only the only other place that comes close to it or equal to it would have been China. So we're competing with China in terms of draconian power. It's just stunning. And I remember the seeing the news when the construction workers were demonstrating and we're extremely passive obedient when we follow the rules. We're proud to follow the rules.
Uh So that was an indication that a lot of people down there could see this is a major issue because if you did lockdown everything, they could see that are going to be destroyed. Businesses were going to be broken, and it's going to it's going to damage economy. They could see that. Because these guys are tradees, they deal with reality all the time, so they could immediately understand the consequences of this, and that's why they protested.
Of course, the police can I know, to find interesting as the Victorian police have the inverted pentagram on there on their badge, so it's the upside down pentagram. You have a look at it and do a fact check on that. But I believe that's the case, and I always thought, jeez, that's a bit of a giveaway, isn't it. That was quite disturbing,
but they definitely crushed it. I remember the dramatic scenes when people were sitting in the park just relaxing and a police car would just drive straight out onto the park and right up next to someone relaxing there, and with the and chase them off the park, and people had to stay in the home. One person could leave the home to talk to the nearest shop, which was you know, Cohl's or wlworst. All the corner stores had to be
locked down. Only the big companies could keep their shops open. Right, they were treated as essential services, but any small business was not an essential service. Do you know what I heard is that the Victorian government now is basically bankrupt. It costs some it was thirty one million or thirty one billion dollars to do three years of lockdowns. They just they wiped out all the middle businesses after the So that's their revenue, right. They need businesses for
tax revenue. They need income owners to pay tax revenue. So they basically picked put their legs off, and they wonder why they broke unless, of course it's all orchestrated that way, who knows. Once they lifted the gates the lockdowns were released, I think a couple of million people left Victoria to move to New South Wales and Queensland, and it's caused a housing crisis.
Now. Who've got people living in their cars. People were booted out of their homes, long term tenants, rents were basically at least doubled, if not more. They had to buy a house that went through the roof. Very lucky that I am a homeowner. So it's put tremendous pressure. So all these people left Victoria out of disgust for the Victorian government destroying their lives.
And then the tsunamis humanity, you know, you hear about you hear about the border issue in America, you know, because because I know, I listened to these things, but we had our own ship tired of humanity within the country, you know, and it destabilizes everything. So I don't want to be curus of being over dramatic or melodramatic, but I try to call a spade a spade. That's how the expression goes. And it put tremendous pressure on people, you know. And so for me personally, I
was extremely fortunate. I managed to go to work every day. Everyone else did the work from home thing, but being a labcheck, how am I supposed to do any work without going to my lab? And I loved it. It was peaceful. Even the funniest thing is that the bird sort, okay, so this is ours now, right, and they were just sort of started reclaiming the area. And I remember getting swooped by crows walking up
to buy a can of soft drink from the the vending machine. And it's never happened to me before in my life, and I thought, okay, so the crows are just assumed that we've all gone and they're reclaiming the territory. I managed to dodge getting the vaccination. I didn't get direct pressure to take a vaccination, but they wouldn't give me a work vehicle to drive to
other campuses because they said, you must have your vaccination certificates. Well, yeah, you don't want to. It just seemed like you're seeing straight out. Sorry, I said, you don't want to give the car COVID No, no, absolutely not. So we're all going to work, yeah yeah, and where your mask while you're by yourself and your cart? You're right, But so that they wanted me to drive to other camps to run labs, but they wouldn't lend me the car because they didn't have the papers.
You know. It's like a scene straight out of Nazi Germany. You know, where are your papers? You know? And it was a huge rigmarole. I told the head of school and the head of school talk to people in culture or human resources, and they said, no, you don't need a certificate for that, and the head of admin and said, no,
yes you do. I mean they were on a complete power trip. Okay, And then it went back to the Health and safety, and the Health and secty said no, you don't need papers to drive a work vehicle within the state. And finally I got the work vehicle. But I get the feeling that there are a lot of people who enjoy the power trip in terms of enforcing the law. And this is something I wanted to mention was the moment I realized that we basically live in an open prison, so we work
and pay for our own prison cells. That's our home. Everyone is a jail keeper. They're all watching you and checking up on you, and you're checking up on them. And you'd be surprised how many people go around look at what you're doing and go, oh, that's illegal. I'll have my neighbors all the time telling me, oh, that plant is an invasive species, that you can't have that in your guy. Oh, I didn't even
know. I don't know much about plants. I'll pull that out right away, although I'll be checking your house to see if there's any building code infractions. I'm a live a sixty year old house, you know, I'm a peasant. I've been working my whole life and this is the only home I could afford to buy. So yeah, everyone's a jail keeper and everyone's a prisoner. And that's how we self maintain the prison system, and those in charge don't have to really do any work. We do the work for them.
And getting back to this head of admin, she was just one of those not getting paid by the government, but happy to to enforce. I perceived it wasn't even in legislation. She just perceived that as being the rule. So she was happy to roll that out and everyone would have complied until they encountered me because I have, as my dad said, opposition defiance disorder. I just said, no, odd, yeah, yeah, yeah, You've got to know what your issues are, right, that's right. And
I'm sure there's a medicine for that too. Go to Pfizer dot com. I'm sure they can treat you absolutely. You know, I do a bit of I think I'm a bit of a troll online, you know, And I'll see a video where someone behaves very badly online and I'll just write a comment. This one was totally brought to you by Pfizer. Actually that that brings him back to another realized. The realization I want to share with you, George, is that I'm convinced that these vaccines somehow are blocking our action
with the creat It's getting right into the internal workings of our mind. Now, whether you believe it or not. Some people say that our perennial gland is our third eye. Apparently there are optical nerve senses that face inwards in that pineal gland, and that's where our dreams come from. That's what you're seeing when you have dreams. I'm not the exponentius an opinion throat and the rubbish pin if you want, it's okay, but if that can be filled
with rubbish like fluoride from our water and other chemicals whatever. I've talked to people who say they don't dream when they sleep, and that just blows my mind, because I love my dreams. You know, Yeah, I dream almost every night, and I think that also. Sorry, I dream almost every night. I love my dreams. My dreams are fantastic. I feel like I have I have real experience. In my dream, I've worked up
in tears sometimes. You know, I had a dream where I felt that I found my true love, a woman that I love in my dream. Maybe it's always going to be in my dream, knowing my luck, but you know, very significant to me and I honestly, when I look at behavior, I feel like people are more angry, you know, like car squab, people will be angry. Right, you know, maybe he knew something. I think they know what they're doing. I think they are It
is a war against God. They're trying to break that connection with our creator, and they know how to do it by corrupting our body, using fear as the mechanism to make us obey. And apparently fear shuts down all capacity to think logically and rationally. Yeah, you become a logical and irrational with when you're dominated by fear. That's right, and that again military analogy. But training, and you need to train yourself because when things kick in,
you know, they say fight or flight. But even here on the homestead, we continuously train on trains that work. Wrong word to use. But all right, if you say, hey, I have a Ham radio, that doesn't mean you're able to operate it and use it properly. Just because you have a medical kid doesn't mean it's good to go. When's the last time you checked it expired? So these are the type of things that people need to make sure of, hmm, exactly. I honestly, I'm still
quite dependent on the system. Yeah, I don't think I could live off anonymous and sweep the title leave. So apparently you can use those in stuf fries yep, yep. But it doesn't mean I can't still indulge in gardening like I've heard. I've heard, I don't know whether roomors or true. The government's trying to crack down on people growing things in around backyard, you know. I mean, these guys are really getting out of control, and at some point it's going to be like I'll see you at the Google you
know, my set, see you at the prison camp. You know. Uh. I guess I'm sort of a conspiracy theorist, and but I'm also an engineer, and I can see how Facebook is basically a massive data based system, and the only reason why they allow posts about, you know, questioning the government is so that this is my opinion, right, is that it can It's started harvesting, so they know your name, they know where you live, and then you put your opinion on it. Oh, that's
terrible what the government's doing. And that goes straight into the AI system that's building up a digital version of you. So once they've got a digital version of everyone, that can basically mathematically model the human race. Uh. And once you've got a model of something this is control systems by the way. Once you've got a model system, a model of something, you can you can you can, then you know what input to give it to get to
get the desired output. And I think about the movie is that Hollywood has produced in the past, like Dustin Hopman and the Outbrak Outbreak movie. Remember that that's just data harvesting. So they go, okay, so what are we going to do. Okay, we're going to wipe them out with the virus. All right, Well, let's see how they respond. We'll make a movie about it. And that's also creating fuzziness in the true data, because when you hear about something happening, go oh that was just in the
movie. It's not reality, So you get fuzziness in your thinking. So I'm a little bit hesitant to draw too much hardcore data from anything that comes out of Holywood. I'd prefer to just use my own eyes and my ears to see what's really happening in front of me. Talk about jumping over a few points there, No that they're great points. You get the data harvesting. Yeah, hey, now they are all great points. And by the way, it should noted that for I believe anybody who thinks that the the
origin the Facebook origin story, it's not true. I'll put if you've never heard of life lifelog, which was created by DARPA and they closed it down the day before Facebook started. And again it's all about data harvesting, and they can track keywords so they know who's their political enemy and who's on their side. And I think it will go. I think it will play into social credit score as well. Simon absolutely absolutely. It's they've got our score
already figured out for sure. But I take this, Okay, this is a tricky comment to make, but I but I acknowledge that we were all created with freedom of We have freedom of choice, we have free will, and that was given to all of us, even the people we don't like, and that's why these things happen. Now because we were given free choice,
but not freedom from the consequences. So in my comments online, I'm very I don't go, you know, down with the system or that he needs to be done away with or they need to be got rid of or whatever, because that's me trying to do power over someone else as well. Now that might sound extremely passive and oh, you know, you're too weak and whatever. I'm not talking about face to face something. I'm a different
person if it's face to face. If someone's trying to come in and take over my space or whatever, I believe that I would do whatever I could to defend myself. And that's those are my personal boundaries. But I don't try to extend out some sort of power or influence over my boundaries, you know. And that's why I keep saying, it's just my opinion. You'll do what you want to do, and if it resonates with you, grab it. If it doesn't, you know, than whatever. You know.
Yeah, probably missing all bunch of things, but it doesn't matter, doesn't really. No, it's been a great conversation. As we wind down to the last five or ten minutes, I had one more question to ask you, but I can't seem to find it because I was going to ask you about the jab or job, but you already acknowledge that I was going to ask you've had any luck? I know you said that you're a hermit, you've got a small circle, But have you had any luck discussing flat earth
with with like minded people in your small circle? Yeah? Okay, So I took a big plunge of the day and just put a reposted a flatter post onto my feed, my profile feed. That was a big step for me. I see things indirectly. I guess that's my way of planning seeds is by by making observations, you know, like the clouds not moving even though the earth is spending and stuff like that. I feel that I'm getting
closer and closer to the point of just being blunt with people. And I say that for a few reasons, like do you know that there is a war on men at the moment and masculinity and there's men are the protectors of society. We're the front line. That's why men go into war because we're the protective society. So it makes sense to attack men and manliness and male strength, masculine strength. There's feminine strength as well. And I'm not an expert. I don't have kids in mind, et cetera, et cetera.
But there's definitely a war on there. And I feel like I'm becoming less tolerant. And that doesn't mean I'm becoming hateful. I believe we have free choice, but I feel like I'm just getting more open about saying yeah, and it's not for me, I disagree with that or whatever. So back to the flat air thing. Yeah, look, this is this is the million dollar question, is you know, how can we change the world? How can we wake everyone up? And I'm really not sure that how possible?
It actually is, Like there this term NPC a non playable character. Uh, I feel like there are that they're quite quite a few NPCs out there, people who are just sleepwalking through life. And I don't really think that they will wake up until they're at that at the impact point, you know, like the last few seconds of their life, the last few minutes of the life, and then then suddenly they're way up and then they realize
something's not quite right. So you're either you're either a truth seeker or you're a ho to use this word, denyer or you're truth denier, and that's kind of like a default. I think you just go one way or the other, and it's it's a it's a lonely part. So I think I think the best thing is to learn acceptance, accept where you are in life, and and acceptance gives you a lot of peace. I know that's that's not terribly groundbreaking and earth shattering, but it seems to be working for me.
It brings things back center central to me. And I think if we're a calm and happy then we would present a good role model to other people. So when crazy things are happening around us, I think then we are going to stand out, like why is that guy so chill? Why is he so calmp all that lady she's so killed? Why they always say insightful things are so insight of us, like they seem to understand. I think it's at that point that we will it's a very grand statement, but I
think we'll discover our purpose in society. We're like, we're almost like this is horrible. Use is like a sleeper agent's you know, that's that's all terrorism, right, But but in our case we are like that. We're like we're like these seeds that are waiting for the right time to germinate, you know, and when it's when the time is right, we will germinate and then everybody will see why that why is Simon here in Rockhampton? What's
here? Why? What's his purpose in life? And then it will come out And I think, I think, what's waiting for that moment to arrive?
And I don't think we've got long to wait. Honestly, I feel like we are right right on the edge of the press of interesting times and staying calm and being leading by That's actually what I was trying to get to earlier with the analogy is with training when things when it does hit the fan, you expect it, and you're going to be able to make more logical decisions because, like you said, trying to make decisions when you're in full
blown panic, normally they don't work out for you because you need to have more than one plan to begin with. Number one, you have to have plan A, B, and C. And especially if again they're attacking males, you are the leader, you are the protector. So and especially if you're a Christian and you know you know there is life after here, you know our journey here. That should give you more courage to stand up to to to the evils and all the wrongs that are going on in our world.
Yeah, that's a fascinating I thought. I remember talking to a lady in Switzerland who was very, very depressed and down about the loss of her father, and I said, well, I said, well, who who is your father? Exactly? You know? And I used the I talked about the hair on your head and the nail, and you cut your nail and you don't think, oh, that's a part of me now on the in the rubbish. You know, our bodies were made from the physical elements
of the earth and the energy from the sun. But we have that we have that unmeasurable component to ourselves, which is which is connected with the creator. That's the bit that's timeless. And I think that the great lie that was pulled pulled over us was to think that we are our physical bodies.
And that's where all this comes into place. You know, the feeling of being threatened, the fear of growing, oh, the fear of sickness and death, the need to build up wealth and own more and more, it all ties into this idea, Oh you are this is me right, Oh my god. I need to have as many children as possible, and I need to earn as much money as I can, and I need to own more houses. And that person's a potential threat, and that whole thing is
tied into our physical being. But if you know that this is just this body was a gift from the Creator, I must treasure I'm as respective. But eventually it's going to be returned back into the earth the great the bio recycling engine, and then I will be reconnected the Creator. Then it takes away a lot of the fear. And I've heard comments from you and another guest and that Christians are going to face the worst kind of harassment when we
get to end times. But I think that that's the soulest. That's the ultimate test of faith. Do you really have faith? This is all about a test of faith because all the indicators are around you are going to threaten your idea of what is reality, challenge your idea what is reality, and threaten everything that you have, and ultimately it's going to come down to your faith. Do you have faith or not? That's how that's our arc that's
going to get us through this flood. Well said, well said, and it's been a great conversation and it's finally, you know, to put a face to the name. It's really great to meet you, and I hope because I feel like we could talk for another couple of hours. I'd love to have you back on maybe sometime this summer. But as we wrap up, always like to give my guests the last words, so please take a
couple of moments and address the audience. Okay, Well, I'd like to thank God for George and his work is ongoing work, and thank God to the listeners out there as well. And I'm praying for everyone to have peace, strength and security in their lives and protection, and may we be guided in our life to be a true representative of the Creator in however the way that we need to be. I just want to pray for that, and I just want to express my gratitude at the opportunity to share online with you.
That's it, really no, I can't thank you enough, and God bless you and for having the courage to come on here and share your story and your journey, because it's again it's hard to sum up in ninety minutes, all the countries you've been through and all the experiences you've had, but you certainly gave us some mense into your your thoughts and great analysis into everything, and hopefully your message will give people courage and hope, as so many
other people that have come you know, been a guest previous to yourself, have done so again. Thank you. I was glad we're able to nail this time down again. It's fourteen hours ahead for Simon, so we were able to work it out and I can't thank you enough for joining us. So for Simon, I'm George. God bless everyone. Have a great weekend. This will actually be airing the day of the eclipse, so we'll see what comes of that, and we'll see everybody next week. God bless you.
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