Episode 150: Flat Earth Conversation with Casey

The following presentation is Del Marvis Studios Production. Welcome back to truth seekers from around the world. It is time for another edition of the flat Earth Files podcast. I hope everybody's having a wonderful week. Actually, as we record it is Tuesday, February the twenty seventh, shortly after seven pm Eastern time. Our guest Casey is standing by, and before we bring heye on, just a couple of quick reminders, please do stop by the website the flat

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in the Oklahoma City or Waco area. Just a quick reminder, I will be in Oklahoma City on April nineteenth and Waco on April twentieth. All the details will be in the show notes and the website. So there you go. That's all the housekeeping for today. We're going to jump in with our guest joining us tonight is Casey, and thank you so much for joining us. Casey, how are you? Hey, wonderful, Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it that you do. Yeah, I appreciate you as

well. Thanks for joining me. And let's kick it off and introduce yourself to the audience. So Midwestern lived a few different places in the cottonw United States, but born and raised in corn and bean country of Illinois and thirty nine and have kind of had a lot of different occupations through these the last twelve years, I've been in insurance and had cows and farmed and been very closely related to the agricultural world. Basically. That's interesting you bring that up.

How do you see the future of agriculture? Is that like so many businesses in the United States getting swallowed up by the bigger corporation ers, there's still a lot of independent ag folks out there. So this womall or farms are definitely going away. Corporate farms, I would say, you know, well, what I mean by that, I guess would be multi family farms are. You know, people are bringing their kids back in and having to expand to get more income to allow larger sized families and then doing so.

You know, it's you know, the two and three four hundred acre farms are kind of hard to find. They're all getting up there in acreage size and different aspects. You know, a lot of them will have confinement buildings or cattle or or many different ways. Agritourism is good becoming a big thing as well with your pumpkin patches and stuff like that. So it's you know, the farmers are resilient. We're just probably you know, Job was a

farmer and look at what he went through. So we'll find a way to get through it and continue to do everything that we can to provide food. And ironically, that's kind of the biggest reason then I'm I'm coming on the podcast is just my own travel to the truth, sure basically, and that ultimately that's really I was raised Catholic, but ultimately that's the real reason I started reading the Bible every day four years ago, so four and a half

now almost. So the interesting story, I could talk about agriculture all day, but we'll get to that. If we have time. It is something that's near and dear to my heart, not just because you know, people are just they're not cognizant of what they're putting into their bodies as far as you know, things, everything that goes into a lot of the mass produced chickens and things like that, that's near and dear to me. But the other thing is, I'm just going to give you for instance, and I

want you to jump into your story. I don't want to take up your time. But for instance, we like to make our own cheese. My wife makes mozzarella cheese by hand and everything. Yeah, it is to find you can't use ultra pasteurized milk. Everything is ultra pasteurized now, thank goodness. We have Amish friends where we're able to get our own milk and things like that. But you know, one last question before you jump into Yeah, absolutely, I'm great. I'm actually drinking a glass right now. Yeah,

that's the thing. You know, you have folks like the Department of Agriculture and the FDA. I think they're every bit as a hindrance as they are. Like we think their purpose is to make sure that we don't get food poisoning. But when you look at what they do to our food. They're not really helping us whatsoever. So I let me just go back.

I want to start off with just a quick prayer, Lord Jesus Christ, please send us the Holy Ghost to help everybody open their ears to what I'm saying, and that understand that I'm not coming at any angle from a negative manner, even how probably sound like that at times, Amen, But I do have to, you know, start off with the root of all evils, agreed. And at the end of the day, you know, a politicians is going to get re elected by how well the economy is doing.

And we've created an atmosphere maybe in government, in corporate America, in our own lives. We like money too, you know, we have to pay the bills, but a lot of times that's the primary decision maker. And then you multiply that over. You know, two hundred years of the United States being in two hundred and forty, whatever it is, it there's a lot of mistakes that make a gigantic snowball rolling down a really long hill.

And so the usd A, at FDA and all those programs, they want to see jobs and economic growth, and I think that might have been one of the you know, early on things that I really recognized in the Bible is not necessarily the prosperity doctrine, but the exact opposite that, you know, the rich men of the earth making mistakes over greed. And so I think that is kind of you know, the primary reason I'm coming on here is because I went carnivore and seeing the real lie. I don't like corn

carnivore as much as just saying that I changed my life. My second child, my first son, was born in twanty eight, and by the time he was six months old, I had I been in a motorcycle accident, oh well, two thousand and nine, and you know, you know, so years later my spye know I had lost small intestines because I the handlebars killed him and no, no, no spine issues, no nothing at the

time. But I think that maybe been a was a catalyst to have him to almost fuse my lower back, and so there's a lot of art rietis in my spine and I couldn't already pick him up out of the crib.

I wasn't happy with the way I felt, and so dude, Sean Baker, I went ahead and made the decision I'd already been, you know, uh, primarily meet I grew up with buffalo and exotic animals, so we ate a lot of buffalo meat as a kid, and you know, along with your standard American diet, but going ahead and eliminating the other foods, I lost twenty pounds. I built a sauna. I was starting to do stre in it, and I just completely changed my life. And it changed

my life. And so I saw the USDA food pyramid as a complete fallacy. You know, you don't need vegetables and fruits, and I want to try and get into that a little bit later on. There's so many more people, there's so many doctors out there with podcasts that are easy to find and listen to that'll be way more intelligent sounding than I am. But I had stumbled upon Villa Hemmer Stephenson, who was an Arctic explorer, and Charles

Leeb was the doctor that actually did a year long study on him. And I found one of his books and was continuing to read and try to figure out, you know, where the medical field basically went wrong, because in nineteen twenty eight would have been when Charlie Leeb was a medical doctor Chicago wrote the book about the all meat diet, and here we are a long waist from that, and are you still there? I'm still here. I'm just listening. I'm but I do have some questions. But go ahead, go

ahead with your questions. That's so when you're talking about a carnival or you know, we'll just we'll use carnivor, just like we use flat earth. Right right, So you eat meat, does that include all facets of meat? Chicken facets of meat, I mean beef, chicken, fish. When I first started doing it, I was very strict on it. The first thirty or sixty days, I lost like twenty five I'm probably five to eleven played college football defensive line, but I'm smaller five eleven. I was probably

too forty when I started this, and thirty six inch waist. And I am consistently in the sun and every morning now, so I don't really work out, but I do sweat every day and stretch. I'm probably obviously the same eye hopefully, but about two fifteen to two twenty consistently, and that's

eating anywhere between a pound and two pounds of meat a day. Actually, just last month, he's still the Baker still does a carnivore month every January, and my personal challenge was just to try and eat a dozen eggs a day. All right, that sounds crazy, I made I figure I was probably I averaged about ten eggs a day. And I had my blood work schedule to get it drawn right exactly at the end of the month January at

thirty first or whatever it was. So when I went in to get the blood work done and the doc was going through things with me, and I had planned out the doctor I was going to go see he's a good guy that I think he probably does carnivore on his own. He's definitely cheating and knew a lot of the people that I follow and told me that my HDL was actually too Oh. My overall cholesterol score was like a one thirty. My tred glisserides were a right smack dead in the center of where they needed

to be. My l d L I think was ninety five or eighty five. So you know, to say that eggs drive cholesterol and heart diseases, that it's just I just completely proved it wrong. I did a cornary coronary artery score at CAC skin and it came back as zer Row, you know, and so that just turns it when when you see one thing turned on its head. And I was a police officer for three years, and my

father was and my mother was a Gatins counselor. So I've got a very investigative mind, I guess which is here I am on a flatter podcast. You've got a very deep mind, you know when I and actually probably the very first thing that made me question my government was when and I hate to bring it up because he gets it just gets drove into the ground. But when Epstein died, you know, like I'm sitting there thinking, holy cow,

this is probably one of the biggest cover ups you could imagine. This shouldn't of course, the guards fall asleep and the cameras don't work, and who knows if the guy even died. Like, you know, the pictures of the crime scene kind of like the pictures of the Las Vegas shooting crime

scene don't look like something where there was an incident. Now you if a guy fired off thousands of rounds in a hotel room in Vegas, you would expect to see casings everywhere, And it looked like it had The maid had just left the room with the gun sitting there on the end of the bed. It's like, wow, that looks fishy. But that's just how I think. And I'm not going to take anything other than the word of God for me. You know, it's for truth. Until I figured out myself.

But that was probably you know, that would have been what August of nineteen and so January of twenty twenty was when I started my real, I guess venture into the flies of this world. To you to not I try to avoid conspiracy. I mean it is you know. I know we blame the CIA for that word, but it is in the Bible as well,

and I think it is something that we need to be careful with. Yeah, just to put a I don't think he's dead either, by the way, but just to put the cherry on the the diet, you're talking about things you stay away. No vegetables, no fruits, no breads. So now that I'm four years into it, yes, my wife makes some mooni and enchiladas, and when she does, I'll even I just asked to hold

the potato. It is. And you know, so I've done a lot of different variances within the diet and by fat ninety eight percent meches where I'm generally always in like I'll have a little chocolate here and there, some ice cream with the kid. And but yeah, I just if you don't realize how good you feel until you feel that good. And I didn't know I felt that bad until I did. And along for the vegetables, most of all vegetables are on a semi for two thousand miles and they get sprayed with

chemicals to rip them. Yeah, you know, so if there is a slight positive to what you're getting, the negative is far outweigh the bad the good because your body uses magnesium. And doctor Barb Wagner, I think is

her name, is a very very awesome resource for different magnesiums. And you know, when you google the symptoms of magnesium deficiency, it pretty world falls in line with every single major disease in in the you know, the United States and all the way from depression to diabetes, and you know that it could be a very key thing. And well, what what happens is when we have toxins in our body. The way I understand it is that magnesium

attaches to it and then we excrete it out of our body. So we're magnesium is not made in the body, but yet our body uses it to remove the bad, so we have to put it in. I think salt is extremely important. And you know how many times has salt mentioned been the bite boy? Often it's often near the salt of the earth, you know,

and people turn in the actual Roman days. And that's where the word salary comes from, is because when you know, what if the man was work, is salt he received, give a bigger salary, right, Yeah, though the old saying was back of the salt mines when you go to work in the morning. Yeah, And so I switched it over to Redmond's real salt, and I put it in and absolutely everything from my coffee and water and smood and it's it definitely did not kill me over the last four

years. If anything, I think it it actually you know, I've heard other people talk about it that I chewed tobacco for oh. I was probably under eighteen when I started, but I wasn't using a lot then, but so say twenty years and you know, and then there was a few times when my kids were born that I would try and quit. And man, I'm going to tell you it had a hold on me. There was nothing better than going to the recliner after a big meal of carbs and veggies and

meats, thro the cocon egg and hut Show egg. And it was last fall. I'm a big love I love the outdoors in the plast consistent can. I still buy a can every now and if I'm traveling, but I do not have cravings for it. And I went probably almost four months. My wife asked if she could throw it away because it was in the window sill of the house, and I said, well, it's probably it's still good, you know. And I got thinking about it. I was like,

I haven't bought a can of chew in four months. And it has to be the diet and the dopamine replacement. And there are people that talk about it in podcasts about how the addiction changes. Anthony Chafe, he's another great one to listen to. It goes in bed great detail how people are cheering disease. There's no other way of putting it. They're chained, they're getting off pharmaceuticals, and it's changing a lot of people's life. It sure

is. And I guess we'll kind of transfer back into your journey to the truth in twenty nineteen, which, by the way, I always find is so interesting. Are you familiar with who Carrie Mullis is, uh inventor of the PCR tech. Yeah, he died three days before Epstein, did I

always say found that interesting? Yeah? Absolutely? Then in the video of him talking, you know, which is if we can adjust the positives, the amount of pause, percentage of positive tests, if I, if I understand it correctly by how fast they spin the machine, then there, that's not to me. That's not scientific, correct, it's manipulating the results. At the beginning of COVID, like, I was screaming at the top of

my lungs and getting censured on Facebook about it. But I kept trying to get people to realize, Look, if we've never tested the entire population to see who tests positive for a flu, then you have to that's not science.

I've got an a griminal's science degree, but that's not science. Science is you compare like to like, and you have your hypothesis, and you do your experiment and evaluate your conclusion and compare it to the hypothesis, and if it's not correct or if it doesn't match, then you redo the experiment. And comparing that to all of the last flu seasons, was we had no clue how many people might have been asymptomatic. They were like, what

is asymptomatic? You mean you're sick but you're fine. It doesn't make sense. It's the first time in history that someone had to tell you you were sick. And it was also the first time when they had people stay home who weren't sick, right, the quarantining healthy people. Yeah, and we're social beings, and it's just I think it was Voltaire that said, be wary of are those who can get you to believe absurdities can get you to

commit atrocities? I think was how that goes either way. It's just the things that we're made to believe, which just the same reason they teach you, you know, the globe in first grade, you're not old enough to ask questions. Well, now you've learned it, and you know, eat your vegetables as a child, right, eat your veggies. Eat your veggies. Well, that's the biggest knee jerk reaction that people do is, well, you just don't eat vegetables. Well, honestly, do you like eating

vegetables? I mean, I love brussel sprouts, but only if they're completely saturated bacon grit used to with a little garlic, you know, like, well just get rid of the Brussels sprouts and eat the bacon like. But anyways, I digress. Yeah, by the way, Voltaire is one of my favorite quotes. He said, if you want to know who controls you, just look at here. You're not allowed to criticize mm hm ohltly and

that anti senti semitism. I'm wa, it's really coming back. I actually listened to your podcast today while I was driving with Arvin and he was great. Yeah, he sure was something else. I had no clue who whim Off was. But I was doing breathing techniques when I was doing my sauna stretches and basically just breathed. Sure, and you know, that was all part of it. But probably really what took me into the Bible the most

was, you know, I had mentioned that I was doing yoga. I didn't know the I listened to Joe Rogan and all kinds of podcasts, and being an athlete, I had tried to do yoga once. I couldn't take the lady serious. She was way too intense and like the yoga comes from the word to yog and I'm you know, it was just too funny for me. At the time, I couldn't. I wasn't sure enough to try,

but I tried it. And I'll be honest the I had a thought, you know, And if you're really break down what prayer is that it's you know, I believe it's supplication and meditation and worship of God and keeping Him in your mind. And if you don't have him, that's why the Bible says to test spirits you might have ideas that come from things that are good. And there was some thoughts I had that just kind of like blew my mind. I was like, wow, that's kind of weird. Let's

avoid that. And so I haven't done I still stretch and do some of the poses, but I don't do it in an organized flow motion or anything like that. And and that's not I'm not saying that it's bad for everybody. It's just it wasn't for me. And but you know, and on top of that, I still, you know, I pray for Rogan that he you know, if you, if anybody listens to him. It's very

apparent that religion is a central theme of a lot of his people. He just had Doctor Phil and Aaron Rodgers and they you know, they they both of those podcasts. So actually the Doctor Phil one that I think I sent it to you. They highly belittle anybody who's a flat ether, Doctor flat Earth or doctor Phil actually called us mouth breathers yep, said that we're you know, we're in a bar and in Nebraska coming up with this crap.

And I just it kicked me off. I was like, you know, here they're going through all this beautiful depression issues that they're trying to figure out, and in they themselves are setting the example of being the non inclusive bully. It's like, wait a minute here. Yeah, he's like, you're just supposedly the examples and it's not it's not good. Yeah, they and that was the people champion free speech, and then they turn around a belittle

somebody who doesn't have the same ideal system. And the problem is, and we talk about this a great lengths because this is one of the great trials of flat Earth. We were all those we were that guy before, at least most of us were right. I would get an email at flatter Earth, delete it, move on with my day. Really, sorry to interrupt, you guy, Like I look back at my exposure to it was all

my own adventure, right. I had cows at a farm about five miles away, and I the only way that I was able to get hay over there was to drive it over with my tractor two bails at a time, or I did was because it was summer or winter of twenty twenty was all the roads were covered in snow and ice here for the majority of January, and you know, so I was in my tractor thinking for hours. You

know, I wasn't really listening to the radio. I was listening to some Stirtle Stemps at the time and probably had that on quiet and repeat basically in the background. But that was, you know, where I had a lot of my thoughts. And I always jokes with a buddy of mine, I'm

gonna make a book out of tractor cab thoughts. But that's okay. It was in my office and I didn't ever you know, obviously we learned that, you know, there used to be people that thought of flat earth, but I didn't really think it was a big thing, right, And oh, I get my sequence of events mixed up, but I can specifically remember sitting at my desk and zoomed out of the maps and looked at Antarctica.

And I don't even know what made me think of the painting of Michael Angelo, but I saw the brain and I'm like, so they're telling us that Antarctica is the exact shape of our brain and brainstem. And I that just really like orged me. And so then that sent me down all the ways that I could prove it wrong. You know, like googled every single beginning and ending of every single river in the world, and you know, they all start at a higher elevation, they all end at sea level. And

we call the horizon the horizon because it's horizontal, you know. And so then I'm trying to etymology of word. I became I really got deep into, you know, the meanings of word. I think we ignore. People say the Satan's greatest trick is that make us believe he didn't exist, which I don't believe that at all. I think his greatest trick has been to make us think that he's some big, red, that evil guy, when you know it's it's just ignorance and letting people do things for its convenience and

and not paying attention to our enemies. I think we need to know our enemy. And so that was where I continued down that path. And I had been studying the pineal gland because I was wondering, you know, like about my experiences with yoga and where that came from. And I had we're on a well here in which you and Arvin were talking earlier today. To jump off on a side eighty seven of the United States. I mean, it's most supplied water source. And if you're listening, I think you know

that's a very important thing. The rule of threes. Obviously, everybody have faith in God, and you know, put your faith in him and don't be afraid of what man can do to you. But I think it's about idea to have enough water to you know, uh, be able to drink for a week and not maybe I don't necessarily take a shower, but you know, within three days or without water, you're you're basically immobilized. And I think it's three weeks with food and three hours with a type of vermair

or something like that. The rule of threes for preppers, which preppers, that's hilarious terminanus of itself. It know, we need to just call it like our grandfathers, because you know that was Yeah. They they cut firewood by hand, and milk the cows and butchered the chickens, and you know they were they were the original preppers. They just lived. Yeah, but my wife's grew up in weird. We don't have a terminology. They can't

divide us that we're not described by something. Yeah, my wife grew up in rural hungry in the eighties and she lived the same life as my grandfather did. They collected firewood, they they butchered their own pigs and their chickens, they made their own bread. It was that kind of life. And there's still a lot of people in the world that lives that life today. And I think that is something you know, the old saying that hard times

create hard men and you know, easy times create soft men. And that's what we're seeing right now. Absolutely, we're seeing that right now. And easy Uh is just this type of population is oh very can simply be controlled into doing what they want you to do. Right it's uh, we you know we You and Irvin talked about Bill Clinton and apologizing for MK Ultra. MK ultry didn't go anywhere. Oh, of course. Yeah, if anything, it's in our phones, it's in our one of the I forgot.

One of the first books I did order offline and read was Edward Burne's Propaganda, And after I read it, I bought like ten copies and was trying to get people to take it and read it, because, like you know, advertising is not just advertising. It is making you think that you need something for money. It's it's exactly what the Bible talks about, is the great men of the earth and the merchants were made rich off of I forget the Bible verse, but you know the merchants sold their goods. Yep,

yep. Burnet's and that crew they blurred the lines between once and needs. Which wasn't he like a grandson or nephew of Sigmund Freud. Yes, and and Burne's's great nephew runs Netflix. He's the CEO of Netflix. So imagine that propaganda coming out, right. Yeah. Well, and we we had it for a while until they were really pushing that Lucifer show and I signally had had enough of it and got rid of it. Yep. Yeah, there's a lot of terrible then. I think during COVID when I first kicked

off. They had cuts that that was an uproar. We haven't had Netflix in ears. Try and look through my notes to get back on track. It's hard to keep all this in any sort of order because I've got so many different ways to go. But could I ask you a question just because, just kind of chronologically as COVID kind of went along, was there kind of another big rabbit hole? Obviously you went from Epstein to you saw what

happened with COVID and the lies and the manipulation of the numbers. First or foremost were you or anybody that you knew were in a position with you know, the jab where you had to make a decision? And then what I actually my sister is a physician's assistant, and they accepted her religious exemption. And I told her I wouldn't write it, for I didn't feel that that would you know, equagiarism or cheating. Sure, religious it probably wouldn't be

that great. But I gave her a lot of pointers and biblical passages to you, and they thankfully accepted it. I think she was the only one at the entire hospital and her major city that allowed the religious exemption. Then they basically threw rounder the bus because they came out and said that anybody that wasn't had to still continue to wear a mask, So then everybody knew. But she didn't catch any grief over it. I don't think good and she's

still not. And thankfully I was able to help a lot of people use not a lot, probably four or five religious exemptions to avoid it. I was definitely vocal about it. I was vocal about the masks. You know, forcing masks on children to me was pure evil. I mean kids communicated through body of language and facial expression. Your brain's not done developing. That's why you can't smoke cigarettes, because you can cover your face with a some

MOULDI cloth. You know, like, wait a minute, this isn't science. Well, first off, science, let's get there's a great point. Science is vain and profane babbling. I said, I had an environmental science degree. Without the Bible, what are we basing science on. There has to be a basis of truth, an understanding of what we're comparing it to, or they'll constantly keep kicking it down the road, like the vaccines.

To me, that is the truth of the word in Jesus Christ. Screen it I never opened a book a Bible, maybe more than just reading the introductory lines. Being raised Catholic, that was always up to the priest. And you know, we had one given to us when we were kids, but we never read it. I never read it. I was a cne Catholic. Christmas and Easter was in them basically the times that I went. And it wasn't that I didn't ever believe that Jesus was king or God.

I just had the the traditional way that I was taught. And I still went into prayer, you know, not as much as I do to now, but COVID and that really drove me into in the carniboard. I really drove me into the Bible, and I'm in it every morning. But that is our basis for truth and the excuse me, I'm looking for the Bible verse the Chaldeans or Caldeans, however you want to pronounce it. I'm completely self taught, other than I do follow a couple of blogs. But Caldeans

by definition are claud Breakers. You know Cana and I's Caine was a smith, I mean two Bulcane who the Freemasons look at was the first worker in metals. So I'm gonna just go all of them here and assume that since the Kabbeans were cloud breakers and knights were Caine was the first worker in metal, that I'm assuming they're chilling the earth, and then that takes us into the diet as well. There's so many different ways to go with this.

I just my main goal is to give it. I want people to understand or saved by grace through faith and Jesus Christ. We have to ask he died for us hate to give us the Holy Ghost, and we have to understand that we need the Holy Ghost to discern the word and to rightly divide

the word. And I don't want to throw out black at pastors, but they want people in their pews, and they might not correct in everything they stayed or be covering the things that maybe we should be looking at, like you know, the end Times revelations, that Pharmakia, you know, is the great men of the earth through sorceries the Hebrew word for sorceries at Armachilla.

Wait a minute, what's that. That's the administration of drugs. So nothing has changed in the last two thousand years, and so we need to go into our Bible on our own and figure out what it is. And you could take that into Adam and Eve. His punishment for sin was to till the earth and hers was pain and childbirth and having more kids. So

then you go into Canaan able. Oh, what was the first murder of the Bible between It was between somebody who was a herdsman who had animals possibly eating them and somebody that was telling the earth, and his sacrifice wasn't as good, and so you know, God didn't like I can't like it, you know. And I'm just pointing things out that I hope people see and say, wow, I'm going to go open my Bible and look at that.

And that is what my primary goal is, just to see that we yes, we're saved through grace too, but we have to do the work. And that's a physical, spiritual, and you know, emotional all of that. Wait, you can't just say prayers of healing like you know James five point fifteen. The effectual, fervent prayer can heal. Right, hang on, I want to get that right, James five fifteen. I believe it is. And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the

Lord shall raise him up. And if you've committed, says, they shall be forgiving him. Confess sixteen. Confess your faults one to another, and pray for one another that you may be healed the effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man Availa Bunch. Now, fervent is energio and he in Greek. And you know that's to be operative, to be at work, to put forth power. So you know, if you got a belly or you're on your couch and you don't feel good like I did, and you need that

motivation to get moving. You know, I hope you find that with this podcast. But you know, prayer is important to knowing who you're praying to and doing the work that you're asking God to do, because you know, we have to we have to pull our weight around here. And you know, the Bible talks about exercise and it profit was a little compared to the spiritual. Yes, I completely agree with that, but he's comparing it to

it because it is still important. Kind of get out of order here, so I'm losing my place and my notes, but I kind of rambled a little bit there. If you have any questions, now you're hitting everything in stride. We're already about halfway in, So if we could just divert a little bit, I'd love to hear your kind of journey to how you came

upon flat Earth. So it was long endto it that, and I guess maybe I should just start off with my six or probably eight or ten Bullett'll be honest, I want to go back to the I don't have a lot of conversations. So your podcasting, which I'm very much grateful for. I actually stumbled upon it a year ago while traveling. I was just by myself and looking for something other than my nerdy diet podcast. And I love it. I don't mean to I'm not calling anybody nerd. I'm just I am.

I a nerdy diet guy now and I love it and it's really interesting to me. But I stumbled upon yours and I listened to like the first seventeen on that trip. Oh wow, that was yeah, I was. I was on the road a lot last year delivering some stuff for a friend of mine's job and helping him get started up and going, and started it. Whenever I had three or four days, I would just jump in the truck and go make a bunch of deliveries. But some of my silver bullets

would have to be ninety degree angles. That was my wife's. You know, when I brought it up to her, I fully expected to catch grief over it, and she just said, well, yeah, I'm married. I married way out of my pay grade. She is just the greatest thing that's ever happened to me, and I'm not deserving of her. But she just kind of shugd it off. Was like, well, yeah, she

worked in the construction field. She's in HR, but was on a lot of job sites growing up with her grandfather and just said like, yeah, in any degree angles, I completely believe that, you know, Like it's just so that was good. I've got somebody to talk to about things, but not a ton and really, because I look at myself before my own experiences as I would have laughed it off as well. So I try to leave BRITCRM. Sometimes I've just smacked them in the face with it, like

my family, but that has not worked. We've been you know, we discussed it a little bit, but I know the if you just aren't on board with it completely yet. But probably one of my first biblically connected you know that it's set upon a foundation, it's circumference with bounds, you know, because there is an ice wall, there is a dome over top of us. And but it was reading the word penial in the Bible, and that was like, and it's Genesis thirty two thirty through thirty two. Are

you still there there? I'm here. I'm muted. I'm just listening. I'm finding my wife. If I just flashed at me, sorry about that. I thought maybe I lost You know you're here when star, I'm going on outside, yeah, same air, And it said, and it said Jacob, And Jacob called the name of the place penial, for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved. And as he passed over pinning Ul, which is differently that the second time, the sun

rose upon him and he halted upon his thigh. Therefore the children of easier to reel need not of the sinew which shrink, which is upon the hollow of the thigh. And I've studied that a lot like I don't understand that yet, but unto this day, because he touched the hall of Jacob's High in the siney of the shrink. And then when you go look at where they tell us the south pole is is in the exact location where the pineal gland would be located within the brain, not the coldest. I don't I

believe there's people using magic against us. I think it's in our phone. I think it's in our TV. You know. Anton Levey called the television the I forget what it was, but it was something along the lines of the greatest altar of Satan there ever was. And I find it ironic that and you know this is not now it's supposed to be or whatever. But yeah, so I thought that was really a slap in God's face that they they tell us that the south Pole is is the exact location where God put

up neal gland. And what was that verse? Did you say? It was Genesis thirty or thirty two? Genesis thirty two is what I have. Oh, let me just search. I'll get a handy dandy little app that I like that you can search for words and it'll tell you, Yeah, Genesis thirty two thirty penuel or panel, which means facing God. There it is. I have a place named by Jacob when he wrestled with God and located on the north bank of a Jabbek close to Jordan. It's close to

the Jordan. Yeah, I think what no, I was just going to say. I think Arvin brought that up too, did he that exact same verse? I do believe he did. Yeah, that's interesting. So much in Genesis, so much, so much in Genesis. I bet I could. I could get lost in Genesis over and over and over again, and especially with the meat diet. I really did heavily with this out Esau. And so Nimrod was a hunter, you know, I'm a hunter. I don't want to believe that hunting is bad. I hear you like so that,

so I would really go down those paths in the Bible. And Isaac loved his sow, but he did eat of his medicin. But Rebecca loved Jacob, you know. And there's so much of that in there that I would just get into the song and just read or listen to it. And you know, then so then I got comparing Nimrod and Esau. And you know, if he saw was a good hunder, he wouldn't have been starving when he came in and sold his soul for a bowl of pottage. That's

you know, So what was what was he hunting? Was he hunting? You know, there's a lot of people out there that'd say that Nimrod was the first hunter of in and so I really kind of lean towards I think Esau was the same, if I'm pronouncing it correct, but he does, you know. And so I think we're seeing, you know, Saal was given dominion. I think we're seeing the unveiling of that today. But that's a whole other podcast. We'll run out of time if we go down there,

Yeah for sure. But I've said had nauseum that the work today with NASA and all these folks, it's the work of Nimrod continued from Genesis six to today, from the tower or eleven Genesis eleven. It's really ironic that Donald Trump has all these towers all over the place as well. But yep, that's if anybody wants to go down to that path. There's a guy

on Twitter, Donnie Dark, and I focus his Twitter handle. He's really been having some zingers with his you know, keeping your eyes on the world, and you know, your eyes your your heart on Jesus, you know, and watch what's going on. But know that He is in control, and people are you know me. God uses the Rod to punish us and to bring us to him both and Donnie's had some great Yeah, he's had some real good ones. I'm not a fan of I can't say I'm not

a fan of Temple, but I definitely question everything with him. Shan would would warn everybody to do the same. He just had Eric Prince on who if you're familiar with him, he's the head of Blackwater yep, And they were really trying to pre program a civil war vibe with that one. It was kind of yeah, don't get me started with that. Don't get me started with Blackwater. Don't get me right you ex military, I'm sure you

probably. Yeah, you know, James Bond had a license to kill those guys that they did a lot of rifas things and double O seven point seven is one one thirty seventh side. I went down that whole power pace as well. But yes, and even going back to your Anton Levey comment, you know what the fifth degree of the hierarchy of the Church of Satanists Maga, Yeah, for sure, Uh, which, go ahead, I guess

we're there. I've got some notes on that. I almost think it's you know, with with Donnie's opinion, I almost feel like it's way too apparent, like there's going to be a slide of ants or something. One's extremely disliked by many people. So you're seeing a ton of celebrities now all of a sudden come out and support him. Yep. But it's just almost too obvious for that to be the case. Anyways, God sets up and turns down kings and kingdoms. That's all we need to care. Yep, one

hundred percent. Back to the Dominion in the sala. There's a note I've got that I forgot to throw out with Allen is. Yeah. Do you remember the Tennessee bombing the Christmas clothing, yes, December two years ago. Yeah, those were the Dominion Voting machines. They were housed there for all of the Southeast quadrants or whatever that they destroyed any proof of any election tampering and they blew up. It was a Verizon stores. Well, it was

aware of Horizon like server house, like a warehouse full of servers. I think, actually, yeah, it was. It was servers. It was owned by Dominion Voting, I believe. If I'm correct, I think Dominion was the name of the servers company. Yeah, the whole thing. It had the MK ultra feel to me about it. The guy's name track, that's yeah, I know, but it was December twenty fifth, twenty twenty. The guy's name was Anthony Quinn Warner, and it was outside the AT

and T. It was a network facility. Yep, that's the official story. I should say they're right. Forget it rolled up in his RV. Yep, yep, yep. Everything you know what happens. Uh, I get back on the Bible. I keep jumping off and in medical field again. I would be dead by necrosis of my small intestines without surgery and doctors. I call that nurse that took care of many ice to you. I

message her every year and say thank you, like you were amazing. And I've called my doctor that did this sert a couple of the surgeries a couple of times. But I just want to make the connection between the medical field and the Bible. You know, Jesus came healing, I think twenty of his thirty seven Bible, Uh mirror miracles said actually I have the word heal or shield in it. And then you look at the staff of the sleepias and a hypocritic ohs, and the Bible, the hypocrites were they're actors.

Uh MK Ultra, There's there's not a more difficult thing than a doctor and residency and what my little sister had to go through with PA school and minimization and maintaining a job and studying it. They just beat them down to mental bloody pulp and then build them back up the way they want them to think. And the doctor that I went and got my cholesterol cholesterol downe with is

he said, He's like, I've got time two people. I have my tradition and that I have these new ways that I am seeing or working, and I know they're working, and I have to keep those two people separate. Wow, it but it is. I think that's the prime example of MK holds what they've figured out and how to get people to think that the

way they want them to think. Sure, then you know fear and control and you know when you're exhausted from forty hour school week, forty hour work week and one hundred hours a week of study and if that even fits in there, but I know that a lot of them have to. It's it's easy to maybe overlook just a little bit of nutrition and or something along those lines or say, you know, I know a lot of doctors and nurtures go into it, and same with teachers to be a difference and to help

people. And it's the system that has gone to you know, complete money. There's a stretch of road going through Cedar Rapids, Iowa. And if you don't think it's it's all economic. You got a gigantic, huge factory facility for Cargill where they process s grains on the one left side of the road and directly on the other side of the road is one of the biggest heart hospitals in Iowa. And it's just kind of comical to me that that's you know, if we just all ate meat and we all add our own

chickens and there would be no economy. We wouldn't need to buy and sell goods. Boy, So, well, what a deep dive that was. I did a podcast on the Cargo family last year. Do you really yeah, absolutely, what a monopoly they have on the biz. It's u there's a lot of I'm on santo and oh yeah, that was well, And

then I'm I'm not anti agricultural, anti glysopate or anything like that. I do like knowing that I whatever I'm what I'm eating has not been sprayed with a chemical, but it has its place, and I will you know, you know, we we use it on our fence lines to help keep the brush and the trees and weeds from growing up in them. But you know they're those cows don't eat that, you know, And it's not a large

amount getting sprayed across that, do you see. Yeah? And one Timothy he talks about how the meats are for the belly, and the belly for meats. And then also, I think it's Philippians three nineteen says that we make gods of our belly. I can find them. There's the science verse I was looking for earlier. But Flippings three nineteen says, whose end is destruction? Whose God is their belly? And whose glory is in their shame?

Who mind earthly things? Yep, that's it. And to get into a little bit of an etymology, a word disciple means to be a learner and not to I'm definitely just want to reiterate I'm not trying to get people to focus on the physical side more than the spiritual. I just want to give people reasons to look into their book. A good book. And you know, the the English language has any words, it's not even funny,

and to compare them with Hebrew or Greek is really interesting to me. And that word bellies is gaster, and you know we we get cardia from the word for heart and the bread. Here's a couple for flat earth for you, the breath, which is g forty one fourteen and is Plato's. So my first thought is a plate. And then you go to the word world, which is the he in Hebrew eight three nine eight. Let me just

search that real quick. And I had to laugh at this. The other day, I get a buddy who's not a flat earther, so we go back and forth quite a bit, but he's very open to it. It's really funny. I sent this one to him. I said, nay, in five, the mountain's quake and him and the hill smelt and the earth is burned at his presence. Yeah, the world and all that dwell therein And I said, you know what the Hebrew word for world was in that verse and he said, no, what it's table literally pronounced table, So

we're sitting on a table. But I just kind of get a kick out of that. Well, he's open minded. He'll be a flat earther before you know it. I think so, I do think so. I send him a bunch of we played football together, and I know he'll be he'll definitely be getting this swimmon. Shout out to my friend for giving me somebody to talk to you. Uh he Indeed, I thought I had it more organized than this. My apology. No, you're good. This has been

This has been a great conversation, kind of going back two steps. I just wanted to give you. I don't want to divert you, but the Cargo family I'll put a link in the show notes that that is. You know, when I ask people who do you think the richest people in the world or the United States are, they'll say, oh, the Rockefellers, the DuPonts, the Disneys, and they'll they'll say like twenty names, but you'll never hear Cargle. Cargo's the fourth wealthiest family in the country. Wow,

huge hand? Is that on your fact jutter? Yeah, yeah, that's I'll put that podcast in the link if you guys want to go back and listen to that podcast. Very interesting the control they have and that's the that's the thing that bothers me. When you have few hands into such percentages of the food supply, people should be concerned, right because they can say to you know, tighten the screws on these people, and they can.

You know, first off, since we believe that we're contained realm that I would to me, I'm going to have to call bs on solar flares knocking out our systems. I don't believe that that's ever something that's going to happen. Is that maybe a controlled destruction of communication and distribution possibly, I don't necessarily know. Let's just say that it does happen. You know, we're so far removed from knowing where our food is and how to get it that

it's beyond the ability of probably eighty percent of our population. That's just a pure gas to be able to to yeek, and so that I you know, I do think people need to pay attention to you know, my first thing that my first carnivore thing I did was Pimmican. I've always had a huge admiration for Native Americans. And another great book that I read about the diet was called Decolonizing the Diet. And so you've got Native Americans out on

the prairie eating buffalo wild game. You know, they try and tell you, oh, they had so much corn and all of this. You know, they planted the three sisters and they you know, they had all these fruits and foraging and you know they raised it, you know, so much corn. Well, how are they going to raise enough corn to feed anybody of any size when we'd got thirty six roe planners that we can't feed the world with today and they were tilling with deer antlers yep, yep. Now

you know they're following the herds of buffalo around. I don't necessarily think they're tending to any crops. And then when you do have a large sign of corn, say the Aztecs or the Anesthasi in Colorado, you know, they're direct negative skeletal structure. You know, they're they're they were smaller, they were bulletleged, they had weaker bones, and so it's not the ideal diet by any means. But you know, I was like, Okay, so

how did they preserve their food? And I was going on a deer hunt in Montana that fall, and so I made a ton of pemmican and you just dehydrate the moisture completely out of the meat and then render your tallow down to where there's no moisture in it and blend it back together. And I added some fruit to it, dehydrated fruit, and I like it. I actually use it for lunches kind of randomly. Not as much now that I'm I'm home, but when I would go on the road, I would throw

just saran ramped pemmican on the seat of the truck and it stays. They would just they would. Native Americans would stitch it into leather satches and that was their money, and that was how they traded for goods, you know, that was it's shelf life is something like twenty five years. Just yep, it's just wild. But we don't know those things. No, these are the type of things they would take on the Oregon Trail. Pemmican, it's calorie rich and it lasts a long long time. And beef fat was

the grease that they used for their ubs on their wagon. Yep. Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. Back then, they didn't have any waste. And my wife still keeps I don't want to say like her old ways, but like you know, she makes bacon in the morning, the grease is saved and it goes, you know, and it's reused the next day for something. Now, like everything gets cycled and that is so important,

and a lot of people don't know. Everything is just waste. It's like we use waste, used waste when so many of the products we use on a daily basis can be reused for other things the waste from it. Yeah, you know, you look at the trappers, richest man in the world back in eighteen forties, I think it was was the biaber trapper and all the use, well it was our vanity, was why we trapped out the

Baber's. Everybody in the cities wanted their baber hats and sold as and you know, didn't look at the leather, leather belts for machines for the Buffalo ey ites, and you know, the everything was used. The bones were ground down forget what they used the bones for it, but that after, you know, the main buffalo killers hunters went to killers, you know, that's what it was, and removed the Native Americans way of life and strength. And we're seeing that happen in today's times. JBS is huge, But

that's off on a tangent. Remind me to come back to that. We're seeing the removal of independent, strong people through the reduction of foods. Weren't a new treeditional family. We don't eat you know, we pray over our food, but we don't think about the contents of it. That's a great point. I don't know how many people actually even pray over anymore. But then you got Kellogg's. James Kellogg Antico was that was, you know, making Kellogg's, so we would quit being so sexually out there. What a

weird family that was. Oh my goodness, some freemates and you know that family was whacked out. Battle Creek, Michigan. That's where they're from, and those people that they were out there. Yeah, But then we've got on the other side of that. There are good things like Salisbury steak came from I think it was James Salisbury actually, yep, and he backan Athan Nunnards was advocating for an old meat diet. That's why they call it the

Salisbury steak. Love a Salisbury steak, same same my favorite childhood meal. I think my high school always had the best good old comfort food, warm and with greg on it. Absolutely, I do want to touch on Tartar. I've heard you talk about that a lot with people. The Tartan Tartaria, Yeah, and the mud flood and the tartar the etymology of the word tartar, which I want to just go into it so I can read it exactly. It is, No, that's the wrong tartar, Tartary, the

land of Tartar's origin of gangs con tata. But in Latin Tartarus means hell and God flooded the world. We know that that happened, and there's some there's actually an LDS guy that wrote a book that I haven't read yet or even gone and looked at, but he supposedly makes a very valid argument as to why carbon dating is skewed because of the flood, that when the flow happened, it altered the carbon that was on the earth or in the earth.

I forget, but that's something if somebody wants to go into another educational avenue that they can look that up. I have not done that yet. You know, there's tons of evidence of the flood, and you know that the mud flood if it well, I just don't want I want to warn everybody that it's you know, I think the Antichrist will be selling a false bill of goods equivalent to what that is, and that's free energy and you know, want all these wonderful things. Two Kings seventeen thirty one and I've

got down in my notes. But uh, and the Avites made Nibbys and Tartak and that just really jumped out at me because it's so similar. So the meaning of it is Tartach is the prince of darkness. It was one of the and this is in the strongest concordance and one of the deities of the Avite people of Samaria, or according to tradition, worshiped under the form of an ass or donkey. And so there's just more connections to Tartaria that I just want people to, you know, kind of be aware of.

An Ass is also known as the beast of burden. Uh. Yeah, that's in Tartak t A R t a K, which also biblically means chained and bound. Right. But so, but the historically there was a country called, you know, the Tartarian Empire, right, agreed, agreed, but I don't believe that it was. Yeah, yeah, that's it's you know, that is something like I said, I have not taken the time whatsoever to go down There is obviously a lot of weird history. My lunch

Break, I don't think we can begin to know half. Oh sure, the YouTube channel My lunch Break and John Levy, those two channels really explore the time frame between I would say eighteen seventy and the early nineteen hundreds. Something wacky really did happen, And obviously something did. There was we saw according to the history books, you know, a large war and then reconstruction, but that thirty years within there, there was obviously some weird things going

on. The world's fares. Didn't make a lot of sense to build entire cities and then just tear them down. The incubators, all that stuff just is kind of weird, and I think maybe people stretch to try to make dots connect. But it's frustrating because, and I've been doing this for years now, when all of the research is either based off lies, which is the Rockefeller History Book versus hypothesis, it's really hard to discern the truth when

you present the information to an audience. So you know, a lot of it just comes from doing the research and feeling what makes the most sense. Our history books. Yeah, absolutely, one hundred percent. The last made

the Holy Ghost will nombie forgive yep, yep. And you know that is where it really started for me. When you understand back in the early nineteen hundreds how they hijacked the education system and then they in late seventies, you know, they signed, sealed and delivered the education system and now you have what's being taught in school today because we've allowed the government to run our education

system. Where even back I remember in the in the like seventy four, seventy five, when I first started school, I remember just very vividly,

you know, the Bibles. You know, it wasn't until you know, I think eighty when bussing took over and everything got hijacked to where they started to where we are, you know today, forty five years later, where you know, we see that when I interview younger people, absolutely the Big Bang and evolution and helocentrism is pushed for much of the twelve years in science class, right, which is something that drives me nuts with these Carniford guys, as so many of them are, well, we will we have all

to eat this way. No, we didn't evolve every single living being has a mother at some point in time, and we did not crawl out of a pile of whatever, a puddle of water, right, and all of a sudden developed a brain that think just because we started eating meat. So God designed us this way. Our eyeball looks like the dome with the rupus nagra at the very center of it. The placenta looks like the heart, the treat of life. You know that He created us perfect, and we

have went away from it and went away from him. And to blame our genetics, our disease on genetics is to blame genesis. It's the same base root word. And so to blame the genesis of our you know, of the human races, is blaming God. And that's not my goal for this year, and hopefully I take each year I go through a goal with me and try to maintain it is to be like job. I definitely don't you know, don't want to come off as negative towards any of this, because

that's what we're having, why we're having this conversation. That's right to repent. To repent means to change your mind, to change your ways, not any religious connotation to being able to evaluate and change a. He is one of my favorite quotes. Oh, I hope I can fight it back. I had a spot there, but it was the true test of intelligence is the ability to evaluate two opposing thoughts at the same time. And we you know, one of the things I always heard growing up was don't ever talk

religion and politics. Well, that was the worst possible thing we could have ever done. Yep, stop learning how to communicate the same here. I know a kid that's in the Republican group at a big university and it's like guerrilla warfare between them and the credits f Scott Fitzgerald was who that quote was. The test of a first rate intelligence is the ability to old two opposed

ideas in the mind at the same time. There you go to get back to COVID a little bit, to make some connections biblically with that in the medical field as well as you know, some people out there see it as a good candidate for the White Horse. And you know, you've got Ukraine that could be the red and the coming famine or even maybe the nutitional famine already in is the black. But the COVID is Divo backwards. I don't know if anybody's brought that up on but that is another name for a demon,

and I think it's in heat. Have not overplayed their hand. They've only done what they've been allowed to do because Satan can't create doctor, like I said, meetings church father, and they wear white coats. Luki l e u k is Hebrew, and that is the word for white. It's the root of bikini and it's because it affects the white blood cells. SARS. COVID two stars means print. That's also another way some people have seen

say that COVID stands for Certificate Certification of Vaccination IB in Hebrew. You've got the word bow, which is actually talks in a Nebrew or in Greek. I keep saying Hebrew, sorry, Greek. The word bow is talks and which is where we get our You know that the point the needle crown, he's given a boat on a crown. Crown is stefanos with it, which is the reef. Yeah, and con means crown as well. It's why the coronavirus gets his name virus. It's a snake venom and the snake climbed

the tree. And then the one that really gets me is that you know, pneumonia's be considered the old man's friend, you know what you know, then the word for ghost is noum so in essence, they've made us afraid of the Holy ghost if you look at it from all the old languages, is or we're hiding ourselves from the air. And that's just there's so many

negative aspects that have come out of COVID. You know, I know kids that are three years old that are in severe speech there because they couldn't see people talk, and the depression, and it's just so so sad what we allowed to happen. And you know, obviously we didn't allow it. We can wear in a spiritual battle and need to just stay focused on the positives that have come out of it. And that's you know, the tribulation and

the revelation of Jesus Christ. The tribulation means pressing together, and that's what these conversations are. And I thank you for doing your podcast, bringing on all of the people that you've done and having the conversations that we all listen to. Well, it's important for many reasons. Number one, for people to understand that there are a lot of like minded people around the world.

You know, even though maybe locally there's not a lot of people who think like you, but we're up to almost episode one fifty and over one hundred people have come on and we are I think also it is in bolding people to emboldening excuse me, to come out of the proverbial flat earth closet and actually have these conversations, because here's the thing, whether it be COVID or

flat Earth or even with the Bible and the Gospel of Jesus Christ. You know, maybe we don't touch that at work with our friends, right, but we need to start having the conversations, the real conversations about truth, and the ultimate truth, of course is you know, is sharing the Gospel

of Jesus Christ. And also at the same time, once you start with that, like that the interview I did this morning, when the scales start to fall from people's eyes and they understand and that they did overplay their their cards with COVID, and that's when people saw that the real evil of this world, and that woke people up, not just to jump into rabbit holes, because as we say, at the bottom of every rabbit hole lies Satan, but it has also brought people back to or maybe even for the first

time to God, and they understand that this fight on the earth is bigger than just Republicans versus Democrats. It's it is it isgent the same burden. That burden is rock. Yeah, but a hundred percent and uh, go ahead, No, I was just going to second that. But it is at like Donnie says, God God's will and I actually got a quote here

I wrote down from him. And it's easier to listen to what this makes feel good than to face the hard truth, the concept that God sovereignty should bring us so peace and a sense of security, not based on the conditions of this fluawed world, but on the promise of something far greater. Our faith, patience, and endurance are being tested. And this is what the tribulation is all about. Ultimately, and then this is my own Ultimately,

God is in control. Jesus is in control. He has stated that everything will bow, and we need to show study, to show ourselves proof. And with that we just have to stay focused on it. And yeah, get we just need to get into our Bible and hopefully somebody out you know, does it through diet or you know that the law was the diet That's what it has been for me. And I think it's very directly related. And I think on top of you know, the physical diet is certainly what

we allow in our to come through our ears into our brain. That that is another bit. Absolutely yes, we we you know, we need to really concentrate on what we're putting into our bodies physically, emotionally, spiritually. And when I first went through twenty twenty, I was reading a loud Ephesian six every day. I just had the focus that it's on it's a spiritual battle, and then through prayer and discussion it is the only way we were

going to battle it. And you know, there's there's you know, ballots. If you look at the etymology the word ballots, you know that's casting lots for ball you know. And so every single president's been related. But one I do believe. I mean, I'm not saying don't vote, but that's not our answer. And I'm not saying don't be a part of your local community. We need to get into our local community hundred percent, and that is you know, where or what we're going to be judged on.

But we get so caught up in the angers and distractions of this world. That's why I walked away from politics completely. I mean, I pay attention locally, but I can't tell you that I haven't watched Fox News and Yours and I used to wake up even when I was listening to Tucker Carlson because I'd like to know what's going on. I think he's definitely one hundred percent at CIA. Oh no way, there's no way he's not. And also

his scarlet thread. Yeah, and his father was CIA. Absolutely, you know, he applied, but then they didn't get a hold of him. But yet he's got the number one FU show in the world. Controlling intelligence, not this central intelligence agency. It's the control of the intelligence agency. They only control what you what your intellect says. Yeah, those are the guys who write the scripts with Joe Biden reads and then he gets his ice cream and goes to bed. Good job, Joe, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah. No. And actually Biden is a place where lightning struck the ground. That's a bidental, and Satan fell from the sky like lightning. Correct, Oh that's right, yeah, bidental. It never used. Oh crap, I forgive which ancient civilization it was that called it a bidental. It might have been the Druids when where lightning struck the ground, they would erect a monument in anywhere, not ever allowed to look at it again. And that's or possibly are our government. I'm not gonna say it.

I think it's going to happen soon, but I definitely think he is destroying a lot of confidence in the American people. Yeah, and you know, I caught myself a couple of weeks ago on my other podcasts, you know, because I think it was important that I think some people still blindly think that we have the greatest country in the world because we have a constitution, et cetera. And this is not me, this isn't George being an American basher, far from it. I think we have some of the kindest people

in the world. But at the same time, our government is very evil. And I gave an hour's worth of stats to prove to the fact that we are not one nation under God, at least the government isn't. Maybe no, I don't know what God, Ben Franklin, and that will make you go, why yeah, for sure, body parts under his house. Okay, you know, people haven't changed our thought, promiss and the way

we go about things. Ever, I don't you know, it's still bred and circuses and the people that were in raw and were the same as we are today. And to think that we're better because we're here is you know, that was something that you were always I was almost you know, trained to say, you know, yeah, of course there's other life forms in outer space. We're selfish to think that we're the only ones out there. No, we're not right. We are the only ones out there. And

it's in the Bible. That's right, that's right. And it's funny how I was like you, I used to think that right, but that's but that was our opinion overwriting what's actually written. I was just I wasn't reading the Bible, so I was just kind of making up the narrative and just going going along to get along. That was the official narrative amongst the conversations. So yeah, I'm sure there's life everywhere. That's selfish. I'm sure God made plenty. And then you're like, no, no, we're here

and closed. It's just for us. You know. I want to get a copy cup made that says this copy is contained, but I haven't got it done yet. That's awesome, That is awesome, but yeah, it's it's important. For like, if we were a very righteous country, just I just wanted to put closer on that we wouldn't have abortion and no accountability because I talked recently in a more spiritual setting with folks about forgiveness and we are ordered to forgive, but at the same time that the Bible does preach

accountability as well. There should be accountability and there should be forgiveness not negotiable. So you know, a lot of people think, oh, you're a Christian, you just want to forgive and forget. No, No, there is accountability, and in fact, the Bible even talks about it. I don't think it says to forget at all. Yeah, one hundred percent. And that's what a lot of people think, like that, that we're soft, And that's I can point to you. You know, so many characters

within the not characters people, I'm sorry, within the Bible. Who if you want to start with David, We could go on and on and on, but it's important. We all answer to God, each and every one of us will have to answer to God someday, you know. But we are commanded to forget, but at the same time he demands accountability as well. And if we held those accountable, especially people who were in positions of responsibility who are supposed to be more accountable, this place would be a much

better place, a much much better place. But unfortunately they've sait Satan's playground. Yeah, we were told that we're in Satan Satan's and job. And you know, UH had him take Jesus up to the top of the mountain and say you can have all these kingdoms because they were his. They weren't Jesus at the time, So that's right. You know. We we wait for the day that he returns, but until then it's you know, the shot of an earthly savior is never gonna happen. And nope, we you

know, such an important time we have to take. We have to take our cross and go. Yeah. I don't think that means, you know, people are kevin. I don't want to say black pillars out there, you know would call me a black pillar because I've actually COVID was the best thing that probably happened, second to my wife, because it just put perspective. Yet family comes first and work is second. Even though I love what I do and all the things that we do and people need to focus on.

I don't want to say what makes you happy, but I think when you start your day off every day with a good sweat and you know, a Bible study, that you can't really go down from there. Nope, you sure can't. That's a great point. And yeah, just to put a little bow on things before we start to wrap things up with Donnie dark and which who by the way, I had been following so long back when he had maybe ten thousand followers, and I think he's up to well over

one hundred thousand now. I agree with you with the same because a lot of the things, especially with him and the Torah crown and the things with King David and Israel and his towers, and I think one of his hotels was on six sixty six something in New York City. That was the address for it. Yeah, but you're right, it's pretty specific that everybody's going

to love him now. The only curve ball that it's I think it's the same chapter in Versus Daniel seven twenty one through twenty five or something like that. It's like two or three street addresses, and I think it's exactly. I don't know, everybody have to listen to that Temple podcast because I'm not advocating for Temple, I'm advocating for Donny dark in here. But he does

a great job of laying out the wild connection. Yeah he does. And then when you get into Roy Cohen, Roy Cone was one of the first deep dives I did in the Dounbald Trump. And he's an evil man. Oh yea his mentor, Yeah, his lawyer and eighties. Ye. Absolutely, very very evil man, very evil man. Uh. And his name roy Tone means uh royal priest chek is a cone in the Bible. Wow? What is he? Always he always said he wasn't gay, He just

liked having relations with young blonde men as well. So I don't want to end up that No, let's that's not But what I wanted to get to with Trump was the fact that I thought maybe the curveball was that they were going to use Biden to make things just so terrible that everybody would want Trump to come back. But that's obviously not the case. There's such as just a a never crump attitude to so many people that I can't see Donnie being right on that. No, I agree, I think, and this is

Okay, this is our first conversation. I want to I guess say. I always say keep your eye on Jesus because I firmly believe that there will be somebody that just makes everything fall into place. Yep, and you know it could be the carnivore diet is the part of that. And that you know Satan's unveiling Satan with the flat earth. He hit it right. This is his realm. We studied by his word, not his Bible word,

but from uh. He controls the government and this is his playground. So if somebody could come along and be this great to earthly savior saying the carnivore diets the way we're going to do things and the flat earth is correct, and you know, I just say throw up a red flag at that one. Yeah, you know, we know what's in the in the Bible, and we know that there is going to be somebody come saying peace and safety. Yep, yep, spot on. Uh what we've hit the ninety minute

mark. So I do be we we we part ways. I do want to give you a chance to give the last word. Oh boy, I just really hope that nobody akes me as a teacher and goes into the Word on their own, you know, get into job and really study what he went through and how and all all this he did not send with his lips. You know, it's it's a wild world. But stay focused on the Word, and love your family and be truthful and listen to George Hobbs, listen to you. But also, like you said, do your own investigation

and exactly. Yeah, yeah, we got to know our enemy at the end of the day, and everything that I've ever done, you got to know what you're going up against, whether it was getting ready for a football game, basketball game, court hearing. You know, we gotten to know what we're going into and we've completely been lulled asleep. That's where, you know, we got to get the scales off our eyes and do our best to bring people with us. Yeah. I'll watch that movie They Live once

a month just to kind of remind me. Okay, that was something I watched early on in twenty twenty and I hadn't seen it since probably the eighties. But yeah, great movie. It really is that fights. He is like my life, just trying to get the corner. Preacher. When I went, you know, was realizing I needed to vocal. I'd be more vocal about my journey to the Bible, And I kept telling my wife, I'm not going to be the street corner preacher from when they lived, but

you know, I feel like it sometimes. So yeah, it's it's funny as a young person you look at that. It wouldnt have brought me. It would. I just got to say to everybody out there that does listen to this, it wouldn't have brought me. If if I would have been if somebody would have been preaching to me and telling me these things, I wouldn't have That wasn't what brought me to It is my own experience, in my own my own research and understanding that brought me to Jesus actually was the

only ghost that did. It wasn't me. You know, I'm thankful for him and for Jesus, but we just everybody's got going to have their own path to the truth. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, as a young person, you know, the world to tell you that those people are crazy. But at the end of the day, I really took my cap to the people who are that passionate to go out there, and absolutely I'm so envious of that. And I'm working towards it, and this coming on this

was with a huge step for me. I've just been somebody that will lay the breadcarmbs out and get into the conversation and if somebody is willing but trying not to push that, you know, when we can get it. A lot of a lot of people speaking their opinions that shouldn't be and I just have definitely wanted to avoid that. Try not on your podcast. Just in the world. You know, we will, you know, social media, the look at me, looked at me attitude, the lovers of self obviously

yep, and and to get hurt you have to. I understand that it's a double edged sword. There's a lot of positives that come out of it as well, but I've just kind of pulled back from that. I put a lot on my stories on social media. I get a lot of interaction from that, but I really don't post much. And you know that you've

got guys out there that are that are tremendous. I actually reached out to the Fittest Platter with her Tyler and have had some great communication with him and congratulated him on a great podcast and his wife and I sent that his wife's podcast to my wife, and you know, it's it's just it's a community and you've you've created that and I commend you for it. And uh, very very thankful, very grateful. Yeah, Tyler and his wife great people.

And Tyler actually will I just reached out to him. We're going to be bringing him back on probably either March or April. His his TikTok channel has just blown up, and I'm so happy for him going out there and spread the truth. Good, good deal. He's actually not that far from me, so oh really that's awesome. Yeah, hopefully someday we can get lunch or something. That's fantastic. Oh well, that's It's been an absolute pleasure to have you. I can't thank you enough for your time and God

bless you. And you know, I've been kind of thinking about doing the carnivore diet. I'll probably give it a try as well, but people will give a good Listen to Sally Norton's book Toxic Superfoods and it will completely blow your mind about oxolates. It you don't need antioxidants if you don't need occidents, right, right, and you know the oxalates and the amount of issues with our writers. It's it's a it's a it's a very impressive thing.

But again, keep an eye on it. We'll do give it thirty days. Say great, they appreciate it. George, just toay everybody good night, thank you and thank you again. And to all the listeners, thank you for your continued support. God bless each and every one of you and your family, and I hope you have a great rest of your week. And for Casey, I'm George. Keep your head on a swivel and keep your eyes on Jesus. And until the next time we meet, my friends,

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