Episode 135: Interview with Author Joseph Collin Wright

The following present is Del Marvi Studios Production. Welcome back to truth Seekers. It's time for a very special interview. We're bringing back a guest who has been on both podcasts before and he's been a longtime friend of the show. And I'm very happy to report that the book that he has been working on has been published. And our special guest today, who again, who's been

on before. I think we spoke about the broz And Sea and his name is a Joseph Colin Wright and his book that is just published that is available on Amazon, and I will have that link for you guys to go to the show notes and click on it and it will take you right to the site for you to purchase the book. And it's entitled Through a Glass Unveiled and it's an incredible story about his incredible life and he's just a well, let's keep using the word. He's really an incredible person and I consider a

good friend. And it's Colin. That's kind of what I know. Your author name is Joseph Colin, right, but you know I call you Colin. So welcome to the show, sir. How are you doing? Love to be your doorg cheer off? Well? Again. Congratulations. It's a it's a big accomplishment to writing a book because for those who have never written a book before that there is so much that goes into it. What order

do you put it in? And I know one thing that we had talked about kind of before about like how personal do you really want to be when you're sharing these experiences. So I'll give you the floor for the first few minutes. And let's not assume everybody has heard our previous conversation, So go ahead and introduce yourself to the audience. All right, So, just like before, I'm sure you don't mind, I would like to start off with prayer. All right, family, Father, Lord, thank you so much

for this time again with George Hobbs. What a wonderful man, father and grandfather, And just thank you Lord for that this man d he's preaching so many people. I pray you continue to bless him and his family. So I pray that this episode reaches as many people as possible. And I pray that I pray that you accept what I've done to lift up and glorify your son. And I pray that you help me stay out of the way as usual, and I pray you give me the words to speak. I pray

you speak for me and just all all glory to Jesus Christ. I pray Jesus in your name. M Amen, brother, thank you. Yep. So you wanted me to talk about myself, right, Yeah, a little introduction to the audience for you know, some of them that's the first time hearing you who may have not caught that last podcast. Absolutely. Yeah.

So uh. I My family were from originally from Lebanon, Missouri, just the wonderful place from living in Missouri, and we stayed there until I was about let's say eight years old, and a bunch of stuff happened there spiritually, a lot of Saint worship back in Missouri actually, and my mom rest in peace. She actually passed away December seventh. She was an amazing woman. So I'm gonna try not to get emotional hair she and she is by

far the number one reason why I got saved. And she would read the original King James to us when we were little, and I credited that for a lot of my reading comprehension and my ability to speak, regardless of the fact that it hit my head you know, multiple times, I've traumatic, you know, emotional trauma, just stuff in my life and just she's she's just an amazing woman and she's no longer with us, but I want to dedicate this personally to my mom. Ah, she's just very specil So yeah,

she she decided to she wanted to move from. We went to Washington State, the Diniacoma, Washington for a little bit with our cousins, and then moved down to Presstott, Arizona. And let me tell you that place pressed On Arizona is honestly like learning a little bit about what is it JPL, the oh yeah person. Yeah, this this place would almost like like a little vacation getaway or like his followers and stuff real you know, New

Age crystals and all the power within yourself and all that nonsense. So we lived there for probably six state months. Finally came to Vista, California and

been here ever since. So I currently live on Camp Pendleton. And yeah, so I have a daughter, amazing daughter that the Lord has blessed me with, and yeah that's saved when I was about five, and this book that I came out with it, I've had a burning desire to write about all the supernatural experiences that I've been through and which are I mean crazy crazy,

It's just very a huge understatement. So uh, it's it's it's in chronological order, so you know, I talk about all this stuff, and I for every entry that I put in there, I illustrated though, I drew a picture and colored each one, and there's two photographs in there. So I encourage anyone who gets this book. It's uh kind of spooky. There's some pretty freaking things in there. I wouldn't recommend it for the youngsters, probably fourteen and older. It's very real, very raw, and Georgie,

you nailed it. I actually left this stuff out because, like you said, you have to decide as an author how personally you want to get so you know, yeah, that's how am I doing so far? You're awesome and and something I wanted to kind of jump in and mention, and I forgot that we even had this conversation a while back when you would mention Lebanon, Missouri and the Satanic temple there, and just I had no idea.

You know, you think Missouri just like you think Switzerland was you know, yodeling and chocolate, and you really understand all the nefarious activity that goes on there, and it's the same you know us in Fort Leonard would Missouri, and you think Lake of the Ozarks and fishing, and obviously Saint Louis.

Every big city has its hiccups, but it doesn't take much. And listen, if you can find that kind of stuff on Google without having to dig down into Brave and the index, then you know there's something serious going on with that. And then I think we even had a listener that emailed that was going to Lebanon, and I think you might have even connected with them. I don't know. Yeah, no, you're right. Yeah she

did with some lady. I forget her name, but she was a concerned and she's like, yeah, I heard your episode and I was just curious, and it's funny. When she asked me, I was actually I was my mom's and my mom and my dad there. They're old school, so they're they're hillbilly, kind of redneckish, and uh, it's so funny. I was at her house and I read it and I was like, that's funny, and it's like, hey, mom, yeah, it's up. And my dad walks in and said, hey, you guys. I started

telling them what's what's places to steer away from? At Levin in Missouri. And they both looked me, like, why are you asking that? And I told them I told them about your podcast and the episode and the girl inquiring, and and they just started rowing off all these streets that I didn't even know about. But they you know, they lived there for like decades, right, so they they know every church and full building and every quarter.

So it was just funny to have them reminiscent start telling me stuff. The stuff. Well, I hope she's doing okay because I didn't hear from her sense. So if you're listening, send us an email, let me know, because I think she sold everything, picked up an RV and just kind of took off. I think she's actually in California or or Oregon and she just kind of packed up and left, and she was looking for a

place to kind of make home. And you know, we are living in bizarro world, and you know, I'm kind of at the point where I feel there's no place to really run to anymore. Just dig in and find like minded people locally and do the best you can. Your book, you state somewhere around the age of five that you felt compelled to get saved, and that really, in the realm of things, is very early for someone

to ask those type of questions. That's really interesting. Was it something you guys were always going to church or what made you compelled to talk to your mom about getting saved? Well, that's as interesting. Is I actually have repressed memories that I need to go to the therapist or something. I don't know, I got to go to somebody because I don't actually know why I did this. I just I remember going up to my mom and it's actually the entry, the first entry of the book. And I go up to

her and pull out her dress. I can still see. I can still remember saying this. And she was cooking like beef stew or chili or something, and she was at the in front of the stove and I pulled on her dress and I said, Mom, how do I get saved? Or I want to get saved or something like that, And she said what So, so you're right. We we we all went to church. We went

to church called Tabernacle Christian, the Tabernacle Christian Academy. It was a very very what you call traditional Baptist and I have a very horrible memory of while going to that church because it's unfortunate. But people always talk about racism and oh, you're a racist, and this and that. This is that people don't understand what real racism looks like. That I can still remember being in church and ah, gosh, I think about this, it tears me up.

This black family was in the church and the tabernacle had a bunch of elders right about the racist old white people. Not all of them, I shouldn't say that, but there was. There was a lot of good people, but there were some racist people there, just old school, you know. And I remember they stood up and they're like, we need to vote

these people out. And I didn't know what was going on. I had no idea, but I still remember seeing this black family walking up the aisle and they were crying, and it just it chokes me up to think about it, because you know, they they were kicked out of a church, like what. But this happened because they were black, and that is that's real racism. That's horrible. It should never happen. And I'm ashamed to be a part of something like that, but that's you know, I'm assuming

the church isn't like that anymore. But that was back in the eighties, so yeah, and yeah, so we all went to that church and actually went to private school there, and we would go every Sunday. So I assume that that I don't know, maybe God put around my heart or something that I don't really know. I just went up to her and asked her, and basically from that moment in the second entry, I kneeled down in the front yard. I started worshiping God, just very similar to how Solomon

did. He got up on top of the table and he stuck out his arms and started praising the Lord and giving thanks to God. That's kind of what I was doing. I remember doing that, and then that's from that moment I've been attacked relentlessly by the enemy. So that's really interesting. You mentioned that so many people have reached out to me because many of our listeners

have had kind of similar unpleasant experiences within you know, formal churches. Yeah, and you actually, I think it's chapter two that is actually entitled front yard Worship, and there's so many people who were kind of bringing not necessarily front yard, but just the small uh you know, in the house and rotate maybe you know, this week we're going to have, you know, get together at our house, you know, kind of a pot luck the

next week. And it's not like one person that is preaching to everyone. It's just kind of everybody getting involved. And I'm getting more and more emails of saying that, you know, we're just doing it's not a denomination. It's just we follow Christ, and you know, we bring the people into our home and we go from there. And I'm starting to see and hear a lot more of that type of thing, which I think is great.

When I see people like the guy in Houston Oldstein and the guy in Atlanta and all those things, it really upsets me because that's not what Jesus was about. Jesus was not about airplanes. You know, obviously I didn't have them, but he would have never been about mansions and airplanes. Right. No, Yeah, it's funny you say that because this church of going to just outside of Camp Pelton, they they got their building fund and everything,

and they're expanding and this, that and the other. And I remember last time I was there, and it must be God given me the spirit. I don't I'm not really shy to talk about certain things like most people are. I'm sitting there and these older women are talking like, oh this and that the church is growing and we're gonna build onto this and and something told me to say this. I turned around and I said, morning, ladies. I was like, you talking about the building from the gas and it

shows like a pamphlet and showing all the stuff that's gonna happen. And isn't that great? I said, that is great? I said, and then after we do that, uh, then we can break off and start somewhere and start it all over. I got another location, and they looked at me like all puzzle, like they didn't know of a say, you see what I'm saying, Like yeah, yeah, that's fine. Get to a certain point and then kind of like uh, like the body like a cell

multiplies, Like that's what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to That's what Paul. It's faced to what Paul did. Right. He was telling them, okay, you know, go here, build up, build a group, and then you know, get a couple people that are solid in the face, and then take them with you and then go on to the net

and started up, you know, repeat the process. That's right, And that's that's not that's not all we see, like you're saying, like it's actually the opposite of what we're supposed to do is a massive compound looks like what do you guysed to do with? You know? So yeah, you actually it's the second person this week to reference Paul and how he did that, how he taught that. Yeah, let's talk about if we could, if we talked about your first out of body experience. Sure, yeah,

this one was strange because it's weird of God does stuff. Missus Wolfe was my kindergarten teacher, and she had three daughters, and I mean we knew her pretty well. It's like everyone in the small town. Everybody knows everybody, and her oldest daughter would like babysitizen and stuff. And so one day my mom had to do some errands or do something. I knew what it was, but me and my I'm number five of six kids, and my younger sister, Aaron, she's the sixth child. So the other four siblings

were at school or whatever they were doing. So my mom needed somebody to watch us, and so she had set up Missus wolf my kindergarten teacher, to watch this on a I'm assuming on a weekend or something, but it was probably I want to say, a week or two maybe where I had this dream. I just remember I was dreaming, and all of a sudden, in my dream, I remember basically like floating up to the front of this house. I'd never seen this house before, you know, had no

idea. I just thinking it was a dream. But then I remember floating. I floated in through the front door, and I knew I was floating because I was high up in the air. So I think it's entry number five and chapter five where it says do you mind if I drop in or something like that. Yeah, sure, hop skip and a joke, that is what it's titled. So I come in and uh, I'm probably I'm guessing six seven feet in the air. And I just remember seeing the inside

of her house. It was so weird. I saw I could see your kitchen, I could see the hallway down to my left, I could see little partition waller in front of me, and then I could see to my right like this den. But it was like a step down. You had to like step down from the front entry, and it had like a recliner and like a bookshelf, and it was so bizarre. And then and then I woke up. And then like a week or two later, we you know, my mom drops us off to Missus Wolf. I've never been to

her house. As we pull up to the house, I started getting this awkward familiarity, right, I'm like, going on here, And so as we walk up to the front door, it hits me. I'm like, no, hey, what's gold on? And so they, you know, if Missus wallbanswers the door, Oh, I come in, And as I walk in, I see everything from my dream. I'm like, what in the world. And I didn't say a word to nobody because I knew I must have been sick. I'm assuming I don't know. I think six.

They I was either five or six, And I didn't say nothing, but I knew. And as soon as I remember thinking to myself, there's gonna be a step down to my right, I looked to my right, and

I'm telling you, it was exactly like I saw my dream. And I didn't say anything for years because I don't want people to think I was a nuts you know, sure, but that but that's what's weird, is that the thing about me is that my entire life, I've always had this like a knowing, like a certain level of maturity, not because I'm better or anything like that, just because of what I've been forced into, you know what I mean. So it's kind of forced me to grow up in certain

ways that otherwise I would not have. So, you know, going through elementary, going to middle school, I always had like this knowing in my mind that I'm not like other people. And I didn't know why. I just knew. I just knew things that other people didn't and I and I kept it to myself. And so it's played a huge role in my life with how I interact with people, how I assess the situation, how I

gauge people. I'll see something coming up and I could just immediately and like read them to a point like I'm not like a you know, I don't have magic or anything, but I'm certain that God gave me. I guess you would call it discernment, like a discerning spirit or something. And there's

a later entering the book where I did literally just that. And I told my dad because when we went to New York and we met this guy, he was he was gonna buy some car parts from us, and and we met him just for like a minute, and he had to go take a phone call or whatever he did. And we got the truck because it was freezing. We were Buffalo, New York, and we had a whole load of car parks in the back and we're trying to you know, unload them

to this guy and make a bunch of money. And just from the minute my dad was talking was I was watching this guy the whole time. We got in the truck, and I look my dad and I was like, hey, Dad, I don't like this guy. My dad sittings were talking about it because he said there just trying to get warms picture and dollar bill. Yeah. Yeah. So he he's got the he's got the heater on, and we're sitting in the big blue dually and uh, you know,

it's freezing outside in Buffalo and New York. And and I say this off the wall comment to him. He's like, what are you talking about. I was like, all right, I just did a bad feeling from the guy. And they just laughed. And he sees the guy and walked back outside. They just laughed. He's just sit tight, try to get warm, and he closes the door and he talks to him for probably I don't

know, a ten fifteen minutes or something. And I can see my dad kind of not has head the guys, you know, uh, moving his hands and it's playing something to him. And I'm just sitting there, and by now the truck fell warm and my dad walks back over gets into the truck. And I watched my dad. He closed the door and he's just sitting there. It's all quiet, and he's looking out the windshield, and all of a sudden he looks at me and he's like, why did you

say that about him? And I was like, I don't know, I just don't trust him. He laughed that he would suck out the windshield and he goes, I think that guy just tried to rip me off. Wow, And for years, like he told as soon as we got back home, he told my mom and my dad was my dad my mom were just laughing and there they thought. My mom was like, oh, that's such a hoot, like Judo say that. They just thought it was so funny.

My dad thought it was so funny that I was twelve years old and I told him I was like the steads of creep watch out for him. And he was like be quiet, just try to get warm and shut up. I was dead on. Wow. I've always mentioned before that that younger folks who are able to see things differently, that I must it must be a burden, right because I was. I was flueless to everything I was worried about, you know, my sports, and you know I was working

when I was you know, eleven twelve. I was delivered newspapers as I hustling to get a buck, the last thing I was really paying attention to. With many of the things that you were talking about, did you consider it that at any point, you know, these type of things a burdened at all or did it you know, affect you. Yeah, it was absolutely a burden because what see, what happens is it's it's kind of a catch twenty two because what happens is you you get this certain understanding of everything

around you and a certain knowing of things. Like I said, I didn't have a crystal ball or nothing. But let's just say I had an advantage over everyone else that I interacted with. But how do you how do you say that? How do you explain that right without without everyone else being like yeah, okay, buddy, whatever, okay, you're a weirdo or you know what I mean. So I think, looking back on it now, being older, I think I think that probably rubbed my siblings raw or rub

them off a little or the wrong way. And I didn't realize it really at the time growing up, but looking back on it now, I think because to me, it definitely seems to be a certain level of resentment towards me. So, you know, if I could go back and watch my life, like on a movie reel or something, I'm sure I would see things that I didn't see at the time, you know what I mean.

Being that I'm older now and more mature, I'm certain that I would see interaction between my siblings and friends that they'd be like, who does call? And think he is? You know what I'm saying, But they they didn't know what I was going through. And oh, the perspective really is it really is everything? Because I mean, you know, look at flat Earth like your perspective is completely distorted, and then once you finally wake up to the truth, you're like, wait a second, and now your perspective is

completely different. So perspective is is, Uh, it's everything, dude. It just it all depends on how you see something, how you see a situation. So now that I'm older, God's showing me, like working on my heart, working on my you know, just humbling me. My pride has always been a big issue because of these things that I've been beset upon. Right, so I have to check myself and understand that most people don't see or understand what I do, and I have to check myself that like

you know, like try to see from someone else's perspective. Yeah. So yeah, it's just it's really sad that that, you know, a recent guest mentioned that, you know, when we're young, we see the world in a certain light, but then we're actually told no, this is how you're supposed to see the world. And that's what really is is the sad part. You know, when you're young and you really understand see the world

for what it is, and then you're put through the system. No, this is how you know, this is how it works, and you're basically to a certain extent, your brainwashed, you know, to believe that this is how this this is how the system should work. Yeah. Absolutely so. My whole life, I've always been that person where I've always asked questions when nobody else wanted to. And that has that has actually led me.

That really that led me to my discovering of the Biblical cosmology. Is just really the deep the inner desire to understand more and to understand the truth of a given situation, whatever it is. So I'm the type of person where if I see something and I see there's something wrong with it, I'm going to try to do it better than if I can. I'll try to fix it, to make the work better. I just I have a desire to to get to the root of it, to see, you know, what

makes a tick and how it works, why it works. And so I've always asked questions, right, and people are always looking me weird, and I'll tell something. I'll tell somebody something to like, yeah, okay, Colin, and then six months later it will happen. You know. That's throughout my whole life. It's been like that. So yeah, but about my coming to the truth in the Bible, it really it actually started. I would say I was probably eighteen or nineteen, but I didn't realize what

it was leading to then. So what I mean is we had a friend. He's dead now. The rest of Peach wrote and he's actually the he's the big guy, the big guy in that photo or if you've seen it yet, it's the second photograph in the book from Lahoya and Thenian Reservation. There's the picture of all of us posing and we're at like a campsite. He's the big dude and he Meny and him would do drugs. Basically, we would eat mushrooms and both marijuana and a bunch of stupid stuff when I

was young. But he was actually friends with my older brother West. And Wes is actually dead. He died when he was twenty. When I was sixteen is when he died. And that entry number chapter thirteen, I think it is, is mom, I'm coming with you. That's the one where West shot and killed and I my mom. But Roach was friends of the West, and West always told me should callin to be careful around Roach. I don't trust him, I said, okay, I put that in the

back of my head. And but me and him were We're at our apartment and U Shotteridge in Vista, California when I was I want to say, nineteen, and we were pontificating right and waxing deloquent about nonsense, and then somehow it came up either my brother or him or Roach said something about the solar system. They said something and it caught my ear and I looked at him. I was like, that doesn't make any sense. And Roach was like, you don't know what you're talking about. I was like, no,

that doesn't add up. And I think what it was he was trying to describe how it was winter, how he described his winter on one part of the world, but the rest it wasn't right. And I was like, yeah, but the Earth is still the same distance from the sun, right, And he's like, well, you just don't understand. He said the tilt. That was like the Tilt're like, bro, the Earth spins once every day, Like you don't know what you're talking about. Like,

even then, I knew there was something wrong with it. I just didn't know what right. And so that's really what started it. I just didn't realize it. And then probably I want to say two thousand and fifteen, twenty sixteen, maybe maybe even earlier, I'm not really sure. I was reading the Bible, I believe it, by Mom's house, and I just

had this desire to start reading the Bible again. And what's funny is that I came across the story of Noah and I remember reading the passage talking about and you know, the waters poured in from above and the deep shot up and says that God flooded the earth. And I just stopped for a second, and I looked up and I was pondering, and I was like, wait a second, how is God going to flood the earth if it's a spinning ball? And I remember thinking to myself, I was like, that's

retarded. That literally makes them sense. How would first of all, how would that look like? What would that look like? And two you know what I mean, like when you really stop and consider, what wouldes that? Imply like? How would that happen? Where's the water coming from? First of all, if it's a spinning ball? Where is this water? Where's these storehouses of water that God keeps talking about? It just didn't add up. It just seems so bizarre, and so you know, it's like

almost like breadcrumbs in my mind. And then then it was probably a couple of years later, I just started I think I passed it. Actually a passer, I think a young duy That's what it was. Me and my ex we went on a picnic to the beach, probably twenty eighteen, and he said we were sending in front of the water and the girls were, you know, over yonder on the picnic on the sand, and me and him were looked at the waves and he said, Colin, have you ever

considered that the Earth might not be what you think it is? And when he the way he worded it, I looked at him. I was like, what do you mean. He's like, well, do you think? He's like, have you ever considered the Earth might not be a ball? And what he said it blew my mind. I was like what. I just kind of laughed. I was like, I don't know, like I didn't want to mock him, Like the way he was talking about it sounded like there was something to it. And at the same time, I'm like,

no, let's retarded. That can't be true, right because I but against everything you'd been taught your whole life, all right, And I'm sitting there trying to be like, where's this guy going? You know, where are they going with it? And then just from there it kind of it kind of just you know, just I would just out of curiosity and I

just started looking into him like interesting, because really it's the Bible. The Bible is what just or field everything to me, because I would ask my mom questions like, well, this doesn't make sense, like why what does God mean by this? And my mom would say, Oh, it's just you know, allegory or hyperbole, you know whatever. I'm like, I don't think so. And I would have these debates with my mom because she knew the Bible better than anybody I knew, and I'd ask her questions and

she do a lot of times she wouldn't be able to answer me. I'd be like, well, don't you think that's a problem, Like nobody knows they answer these questions, that's a problem. God doesn't work in confusion. I don't care anybody said, unless he's deliberately trying to confuse somebody for a

very specific reason, you see what I'm saying. So it's not like God wrote the Bible in his message to confuse everybody, like he wants people to read it and to understand it. Now, there are certain things that God says he wants you to it's it is it is for the what is the glory of kings to research the matter and the honor of the Lord to conceal it or something like that. Yeah. So yeah, there are certain things that he wants you to search out, but he doesn't want us to be

utterly baffled by this message. Right, I'm like, well, what does this mean? Like, no, that's what the enemy does. Yep. So anyways, I wanted to before we went forward. I wanted to put a wrap on the previous chapter because you wanted to make it clear that you never tried to have these out of body experiences. They were always initiated by God. Oh I'm sorry. Oh no, no you could. Yeah yeah, I'll just all ramble bros. No, I think you're a good Matt.

Yeah, so thank you for bringing that up. He's actually a solid point. Yeah, so make a crystal clear. I've never wanted any of this. I've never tried to do any of this. I've never messed with Aluiji board. I've never tried to you know, I've never tried to summon a spirit. I've never tried to do any of that stuff. So all this stuff here about remote viewing and people messing with the spirits and people trying to do this, that and the other, and I've never wanted to do

any of that stuff. It just happened to me, and Skippio actively he made a really good point. I was talking one time and he said, you know, you might want to look into your family history. And as soon as he said that, I was like, dude, I've never even considered that. He's like, yeah, you might want to. He said you might have some basins and something going on in the damn tree, bro.

And I was like, you were so right because he said kind of the same thing with you're saying, like, so you've never done this, you never want to do this, but all these things happened to you. So it's almost like there's something attached to my family. And I think there

is because of that photo Chapter ten. It's titled Chapter ins, titled the Picture, and it's a picture of my dad and my mom took it of him back in like the early seventies and they were in leven, Missouri, and they were at a park endowing you know, there were young Mary trouble and she took a picture of him in broad daylight and the polaroid shows what looks like a bat, a hat man or a hat man. Yeah, it almost looks happened a bat too. Is that a battle or no,

it's so the pictures all blurred now though. Okay, when I first thought, when I first saw it, when I was like probably thirteen, it was hanging on the fridge. My mom had a it was on the fridge like with a magnet, and I made a sandwich and I remember I looked to my right and it caught my eye and I was like, I'd never seen the picture before. I walked up to it, and you know, having crystal clear vision my whole life, I looked at this picture and I'm

like, what the frig? And it was way more visible back then, but blurred since then. But back then it was you could you could see it a lot better. But now it's it's like if I could show it to you now and you stood back and looked at it, you could see that it's it's actually a neck sticking out of like a black Oh, I see it now, I see it now. Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, I see. So those two pointy things on the top, you

see the stew point of things. Yellows are actually or horns. Yep, he's got a brim hat and then he's got you can see his nose and it looks like he's looking right at your dad. Yeah, I mean it is. It's creepy, bro. And my mom. My mom actually stole the picture from me because I had it. I had it in a book. She snuck in my problem and she took it well, and I was like, well, I know you took the pictures. She's like, I don't know what you're talking about, Like, moll, come on, because

I had told her. I was like, I'm going to take this. I'm going to go down to San Diago State University. I'm going to have him scan it when I haven't professionally scan it with their equipment. And I wanted to get all the three dimensional properties all that stuff. And when I told her that I should have never folded, I told her that she gave me this look and I was like then me and my older brother Neil started talking and then she stuck in my room at my landlord's house and she stole

the picture and I got it back. I finally got it back to my brother Neil, and I haven't now, but that's no doubt that's what that is. Yeah, I can see that now. But also you're putting all caps that you wanted to make sure that people knew that the first five out of body experiences did happen in Lebanon, Missouri. Well not, the first five out of our experience is just the first the first five jury. Oh, I see, I see. I'm sorry. Okay, okay, my

bad. Can we talk a little bit about your brushes of death and how it impacted your life? Yeah? Absolutely, So we moved to Visa, California. We had moved. We had moved into a house on Eucalyptus Avenue, which is like it's talked too far from Escondido Avenue for all you locals that lived here a long time now it's told Civic Centered Drive, I believe, and Vista. So we were living on Eucalyptus and uh, I'm telling

you the enemy was trying to kill me. Dude. I know he was because one of them, one of them is where I hit my head like really hard. I was playing like a water balloon fight or something with my sisters and we had this steep driveway, like a short little driveway, and

I was backing up and there was all water running on the driveway. I was backed up and I split and I was like, well when I hit the back of my head on the on the driveway, and my sisters ran in and they were like mom, Mom, Mom, And this is what they told me. They're like, mom, uh, you know, calls on moving, he's not moving. And my mom went and got me and

she laid me down on the couch and that's what you see. And she laid me on the couch and she said, I kept going in and out of consciousness, and uh, I think it's like part two maybe of Brushes and Brushes of Death. Yep, and uh, he lays me on the couch and and that's one where it's this hospital of horrors and twins on a loop. So I go to this hospital, dude. It was really Uh it was interesting because when I went, there was a Radies Children's hospital.

Back in the day. And this is so long ago that it was when gatorade. Gatorade was like three or four flavors, the taste of like crap. Yep, you had lemon orange and the fruit punch. That was it. Yeah, there you go. So they had these ivs in my arm and it would get so sore. They would just press a button and nurse come over and switch it to the other arm. And so that went on

for like three or four days, and I couldn't really eat me. They I had traumatic brain injury, and they had twins, the movie Twins. They had on a loop like it just it would finish playing and it would start all over like it was. It was torture, dude. And and while that was happening, I was in a giant room with probably eight or ten kids, I'm guessing, and this one girl, man, oh gosh, I feel so bad for it. I don't know what was wrong with

her, but she would laugh. She would laugh, like literally like the joker, like she would just laugh and laugh and laugh until she would cry. And she would keep laughing like she couldn't stop laughing, and she would cry, and then she would pass out and then she would wake up and it would start all over again. And so you know, this was like three or four days of hell. And so I don't remember anybody coming to

see me. I mean, my mom might have, I don't know, but I do remember towards the end well, while I was there, I remember praying for her because it was it's interesting, like as horrible as a time I was having, I my heart went out to this girl because she was I knew she was suffering. It was it was horrible. I knew

she was she was tormented. She was absolutely tormented. And it actually, I write this in the book, that when you focus on someone else, it actually helps you forget kind of for a moment, what you're going through. And so I kind of, uh, all of a sudden what I'm going through. Didn't seeing that bad and considering her position, you know. Yeah, And I was probably ten. I was probably like nine or ten, and I was able to realize that back then. I remember praying for

I was praying, asking me God, use your pain or whatever. And then I think the next day, maybe my mom comes down and the doctor says, I'm The doctor and my mom were staying at the front of my bed, and I was, you know, I was very attentive and listening to every word they said. And my mom was like, so is he can be able to come home today? And the doctor was like, well, I remember watching his mouth. He's like, well, if he can finish this burger, he can keep it down, you can go. Oh.

It's like, well, mission, that's you know, set. So I remember thinking I'm like, I'm gonna chew this until it's haste and then I want to swallow it and I'm getting out of here. And that's exactly what I did. And uh so that changed me a lot, kind of like kind of video game like. It gave me a boost of maturity,

if you will, just that experience. And then there was another I was on a bicycle and I just had a bright idea seeing how fast I can get how fast I could ride the bicycle down the hill because I was like scared to do it, and I was like, no, I'm gonna do

this. I'm gonna talkor my piers. And there was a total blind turn and there's the big tall trees on either side of the intersection, so his giant Like I guess it was a residential private drive and it's this super steep hill that it actually passes through eucalyptus, and Eucalyptus was a decently active road right and so I remember my pedal, pedal, pedal all the way down. And as I was paddling, I see this car coming to my left. I was sick. Well, yeah, to commit now, So I

just kept battling and I pushed all the way. I was lying down the cell. I flew through the through the street that went, I crossed over Eclyptus, and as I did that in this car, was like and uh, undoubted, they gave the guy an heart attack, right, brought off of them and uh so that was out and I almost died there. And then uh, let's see what else was it? Oh yeah, and then

uh the gang of guys that was crazy. Man. We we went to church and my mama is she's so awesome, Like she would she would go and find kids that were poor, right, and uh like they she she would she would find kids in the neighborhood, in the community that couldn't go

to church, and she would offer to take in the church. And we had like this van and there were six of us kids anyways, so my mom was just looked at it like, well, let's take a gag little kids with me to church, right, I might as well add a few more. We had these other Yeah, so we had these We had these

other kids. And on the way home from church, I think my siblings rowly you know, pester me and uh And because I was, like I said earlier, trying to deal with all these emotions and this supernatural stuff going on in my life. You know, I didn't know how to deal with it all. So I would get frustrated, right, and so I couldn't explain myself because I was so young, and no one would listen to me

anyways, So you can imagine the frustration. So I would when I would get super frustrated, they would keep pestering me, and I would bite my arm right like, it's kind of funny, but at the same time, it's not right because you got to figure if the kids doing that to himself, there's obviously something wrong, right, right, right, there's something deeper to that. Yeah, and uh, nobody ever tried to figure it out. And my siblings kind of had fun with it, and they would kind

of pester me, and so something like that I think was happening. And we're in the van and I started getting kicked off and I said something. I might have yelled or I might have rose my voice or whatever. And my mom did she she didn't, she didn't play game. She did not mess around. So coming from Missouri, like you would get spanked. It didn't matter where you were. You could be in the grocery store, you

could be in church, you could be at school, matter. My mom would just spank you right there, like if you were disobeying or being a little stink, she would just thank you and not like a little little swat, like she would grab you and just start smacking your butt hard and you know, leave a sting and you'd cry and you would stop doing it. And so she pulled off real quick into it. It was a back then. It was a big parking lot, and there was a Vista library and

uh there was like a tennis courts up above. And now it's like now it's the Civic Center and now it's all different. But back then there was a giant dirt lot. And she pulled off and she opened the door. She said get out. She said, we're not We're not putting up with your attitude or something like that. She's like, you're gonna go cool off. You're gonna go cool off at the park. And I was like, what, it's like nine years old, and I might have been ten.

I was either nine or ten, and and I wanted to statement case. I wanted to, like, you know, I wanted to defend myself, like, hey, they were you know, they were fighting two and I'm not the only guilty one. Here. She's like, she said, if you go home, I'm going to thank you. So go sit at the park and think, well, what you did or whatever. I started crying. I went up to the park. I saturdneath the tree, and I was little ticked off off, you know, feeling sorry for myself. And

all of a sudden, I hear this gang of guys. There was probably five seven dudes, and these guys were like sixteen eighteen, like older. And I remember I started getting scared because here I am sitting at this park, you know, where gang members and whoever else goes through. And I'm sitting in my Sunday's best with like nice shorts and a nice shirt. I'll sit under a tree all over himself, crying like the little sissy, La la. And then and I hear these guys and then I hear one of

them say hey. Then and they say something. I look over and I'm like oh, And I was like frozen and beer like. I was thinking to if I get up and take off, they're going to beat the crappa, right, which is what I should have done. I should have taken off, but I stayed there, and all of a sudden, next thing, I know this rock. One of the guys threw a rock and did be right in my side. And it was a little bit smaller than a tennis ball, bigger than a golf ball. I mean, this thing hit

me right in my ribs. It felt like somebody kicked me in my rib and I immediately I was like uh, and I just started crying. I kind of like bent over and I was like holding my side and they all walked up and they surrounded me. They all surrounded me and talking trash, call me a little baggot, this and that, you know, like, uh, it was terrifying, bro, Like I thought these guys were gonna kill me or beat me up or you know whatever. So I remember the

leader he was looking at me like they were making fun of me. For ten seconds, I long, and the leader with some older Mexican dude, he might he had to have been like sixteen or eighteen, and he looked at me and was like hey, He's like, what are you doing here? Oh by yourself? And then he looked up out on them all crying, and I like, I remember I because it kind of knocked the air, knocked the wind out of me. So I looked up, I was like my family left me here, and you could tell that they all kind

of started to get quiet. They they were like, oh, this poor guy. You know, they felt bad. I kept living. Yeah, a couple of them kept making fun like saying something like oh, poor baby, or right, and then I could tell just on his face, I can tell he looked at me and he was like, oh, He's like, why don't you get the bleep out of here? Like I don't put that in the book, I said. He just says, why don't you to get out of here? He's like, why don't you get that out

of here? Like he basically took it easy on me. And so I remember I just got up and I was in pain, and I remember I was like I just got to go. It's like I pushed my weight through him. And they all kept making fun of me and clowning on me, and and uh So I walked all the way home and I'm so mad at my mom and my siblings, and I was just sobbing the whole way home. And that was one of those times, you know, just uh, I can't think of the other time I having a brain for it, right,

no no worries. But the other thing that I wanted to get to because it was one of the more interesting things that piqued my interest. Is you talked about you moved to one house that had a pentagram on it, and then you moved to an apartment I think it was Breezewood or Breeze Hill, and you had a really interesting experience where you think that you saw the what was it the Angel from the Garden of Eden. Yeah, that's uh, yeah, that was I was intense, man, real real intent.

So the yeah, the the one on Rolling Hills Road. That's the lord of the pentagram. The guy who owned the house with a real piece of work this day brought a piece of trash. He he would literally walk into her house undernounced, and he would bring his wife with him, and she would always look down on the ground. You know, I'm going to keep myself from saying stuff because I don't want to. I don't want people to write. So he let's just say he was culturally different and his wife never

said a word. He never looked at us. But I remember thinking there was something weird going on there. And this guy, dude, this guy, he uh, he had no compassion, He had no empathy. And he would always, you know, demand money and this and that it wouldn't fix anything, just your typical slumlord. And so but this house and we moved in, this house had a pentagram painted on one of the walls. So one night I was sleeping in our in my bed and uh I had

to share the I had to share the bedroom with my two sisters. And uh I had just recently gotten back from fifth grade camp. And for fifth grade camp we all with Almar Mountain and while there we all got to do certain things. And one of the things we got to do is they let us brand our own leather. So we would cut out, uh we'd cut out an arrowhead shape out of this patch of leather right, and we would take this arrow leather arrowhead and we would stamp it like a hot iron.

We got to stand you choose the different symbols, and we stamped at a bunch of time, branded it a bunch of times, and then we braided our French braided that the strand or the necklace part of it. And so it was a green and yellow necklace with a leather arrowhead on it. And this necklace was sitting on top of a wicker basket that was at the foot

of my bet. So this one night, I was asleep in my bed and then I just remember waking up in my dream having an out body experience again, and it was really weird, like the room was kind of lit up by moonlight, and I remember feeling this really strange feeling in my chest, like almost like a like a vortec, almost like a you unplugged the sink and the water goes down. So I started feeling this whirling in my

chest. And then there was like a face to my left. So I'm hovering above my face on my chest or whatever, and I can tell there's a face to my left, but I can't look at it. Do you ever get that in your dream where you can't look at something? Sure? Yeah, almost like a sleep analysis. Yeah, I guess it was. But there was a face and he was like I called him the instigator because

he was clearly like instigating this the situation. Who was trying to he was goading me, trying to getting me to I don't know, I guess tap into something that I can do. I'm not really sure. I've never I've never tried to do it. I've never tried to do it again. But I'm certain of this that I was moving the necklace with my I don't know what you would call it, my inter cheet or something. I don't know, but I could feel this tirling in my chest. And then I looked,

and I remember looking. I looked up and I could see my feet, and I remember seeing the necklace started. I could see it twirling up in the air, and it slowly raised up in the air, and I saw it twirling up in the air, probably about I don't know, a couple of feet or something above the wicker basket, and I realized I was doing it. And the face to my left was like, you can do it, calling you could do it. He was like like, you know,

like chair beyond. Sure, And it freaked me out, and I woke I woke up, and I was like, well, and I got real scared because I knew what was going on, and I knew there was something in the room that was, you know, chaired beyond, and I knew immediately what it was. I was like, that's not God. This is whatever the says is evil. And I jumped out of my bed and I ran to my mom and I slept in the bed with my mom and my dad, and yeah, it was creepy bro So then years later at

Breeze Hill, I had to share a bed with my brother West. He's now dead. I was shared a bed of the West. Same thing. I just wake up and I was sleeping in bed and I was I would always have to take the inside right because he was older and bigger, so he got to sleep on the outside of the fleet bed and I was up against the wall, and I just sure he waked up in my dream and I was in some field. I was like in this big open field, and I could tell I was up in the air, probably I don't know,

ten feet in the air I was. I was clearly hovering. I wasn't standing because I was because of how high I was. And this was really crazy. So I just remember I remember seeing it was so vast. I could see like the horizon, I could see mountains way off in the distance, and I could tell wherever we were was elevated. It was pretty high up. I don't know how high it was, but it definitely wasn't sea level is. I could tell like there was either a drop off or

a cliff or something. I don't know, but I want to say probably one hundred yards in front of me was nothing but like grass and flowers and stuff. There was some trees, and then past that it seemed to be like a drop off maybe or a hill. I'm not really sure, but I could see really far out. I'm talking it must have been thousands of miles, hundreds, if not thousands of miles. I could see way off

into the distance. It was an amazing view. It would have been something that like, if you were a millionaire, you would build your house here and you would have, you know, the view of a lifetime. It was something like that. And so, but then as I was observing this, something caught my eye. Looked over to my left and I see this dude and this woman probably i'm guessing fifty yards away. They were butt naked, and the guy was doing something. I couldn't tell what he was doing.

He was like it look like he was rummaging or doing something. And this chick was standing behind him just kind of like almost like a child. She was standing there just kind of like waiting for him to do something. And she was just standing behind him by how many feet? And then I see this black figure like it looked like it was in a robe or something. It was just all black, and it looked like it was shuffling or like waddling, or like walking up the Eve. I'm assuming it was Eve.

It was walking up behind her. It wasn't a snake, but what I could tell it to me, it looked like, uh, maybe a person wearing a robe or something. But it was shorter than Eve was. And as soon as I saw that, then all of a sudden, my entire view this this this face shot up in front of me, almost like it came up to me and shot and stood up, or like, I don't know, jumped up in front of me. I don't know what it was, but this face had this face it uh, it was like light

blue and white. It didn't seem evil. It just seemed extremely powerful. And it uh, it had these eyes that shot straight through me. I mean, I'm talking. It looked right into my eyes and it shot like in the book I put. It shot through my spirit, passed my soul and into my body, and it sandwiched all three together, and I woke up like a mouse trapped dude. I mean, I'm I woke up gasping for air. It literally took my breath away from a dead sleep. That's

how that's how much this scared me. I mean, it scared the crap out of me. It scared me way more than you know, the thing trying to get me to twirl the necklace or whatever. Like. Whatever this thing was, I could tell it was extremely powerful, but I didn't get the sense that it was evil. I just got the sense like it wanted to be out of there and it wouldn't be gone now. And and so in the in the book, I say that I'm pretty sure it was the

angel. I think it was an angel that God put to protect the garden. And you know it. So when people talk about the Bible, they say, you know that I saw an angel and I fell down dead and I was weak, I couldn't get up. I get it. I understand what you're saying, Like when you see when I saw this thing, it was there. There is no fire, there's no you're not going to do it, like this thing could utterly destroy you. And so that's why angels

are always saying, do not be afraid. Like they have to tell you over and over, like calm down, it's okay, I'm not going to kill you. That's what this was. I know it was because it and I told this. I had a conversation again with Scipio, and I talked to him sometimes about some stuff because I refect him so much, and he's an amazing dude. He's so smart and he knows the virus so well,

and he thought it's pretty interesting. But yeah, I go on to talk about it made me ponder this figure in the black robe, and I made sure to state that I'm not saying I know for sure what it was, but at the same time, it definitely was not an ache. And my own conjecture, my own belief is I think there's a little bit of truth to the whole reptilian thing. Now I don't think I don't think it's what

David Ike says, but it definitely seems to me that. So when you read Genesis, I think it's Genesis chapter three, and I go into it when you go to When you read chapter three, in my opinion, God is clearly talking to a creature. So everyone assumes that he's talking to the devil. I don't think he is. When you read it, read it again, going to Genesis and read from King James or New King James or whatever. He's saying that he's going to curse this thing. You're cursed above

all, cattle above all. In other words, he's comparing it to its own kingdom. So, but what I think it is, this is my own belief. I think whatever this thing was that I say, it's possibly that it was the basilist, and the bascialist the basilist is like a folklore. Like people say it existed, people say it didn't. I think it did. I think it existed, And I think this thing was a special creature, just like Lebiathan. Lebiathan was part of the Reptilian kingdom, and

I think this thing was part of the Reptilian kingdom. And both things are subjugated under the dominion of Lucifer. I think Lucifer was the arch angel that was in charge of the Reptilian kingdom, because you got the you get the four special angels, the four arch angels in heaven. One looks like an oxen, one looks like an eagle, one looks like you see what I'm

saying, yep. So each arch angel is responsible for a certain like a section of creation, and I think Lucifer was in charge of the Reptilians or reptile kingdom. And there's also a Jewish name. I believe it's the Seraphig. I think it's the serapheme is the fire serpent like that. So, and I believe that when it's talking about the seed and he says, your seed will be at enmity with the womans, I believe that we're talking about the seed. I think the seed is some kind of a hybrid freak or

whatever from whatever this thing was. Whatever this thing was, it had the ability to talk to Eve, had the ability to the guile Eve right now, if that means that it hypnotizer or I don't know what that means. But apparently the Bassilist, the Basilist had the ability to hypnotize people. And it's supposedly had yellow eyes just like Leviathan did. So the more you dig into this stuff, I'm telling you there's something here. There's something to it,

and I can't prove it. But but Skipio made a good point. He said, just you know, just make sure you don't let your you know, supernatural experiences out about experiences or whatever that. Don't let that dictate how you understand and perceive the Bible. I was like, no, absolutely, you are. You're a Herbsteak corrent. So my mom always told me to no matter what it is, compared it to the Bible and just go from there. So yeah, that Garden of Eden, I'm telling you,

bro, that was crazy. This was one of the craziest things I've ever experienced. That's intense. Oh, it was super intense, really intense. When you're writing this book, obviously you're bringing up some old memories of things that caused you difficult times, and it kind of brought up some you know, I know a lot of the things me personally that I've buried back in

the head. And that's one of the reasons that I've mentioned before when I write some of the you know, when i'm writing, when I bring some of these stories up, you know, you got to kind of go for a walk, and because it does kind of rip the band aid off these old wounds. And I'm sure you know Chapter thirteen was dedicated to your brother, John Wesley Wright, and you know, after that incident, you started

going through a lot. You were being expelled from schools and just kind of, you know, explain to the audience how that really changed you Yeah, it definitely so. Like I said earlier, I've had a lot of trauma. But God Jesus has been with me the whole time. He's given me the ability to mentally handle it, you know. Uh, He's allowed me to weather the storm, so to speak. And and yeah, being expelled from the schools, that was, that was pretty rough. That was another

time where I almost died. I was drunk and that's the one where I was going to fight that kid and he was gonna stab me. He would have he would have killed me for sure. And my friend actually saved my life. And that was shortly after That was shortly after West died, and that would have absolutely that would have crushed and crippled my family. There's no doubt about it. The death of West. Really it really shook my mom

and she had a hard time, you know, am. And if I had died that night that I had, I can't imagine what would have happened. I but yeah, it was. My life has been very difficult. It's been very very unusual, very unique. And I give all credit to

Jesus Christ. Like without Jesus in my life, I probably would have killed myself or I probably would have overdosed on drugs or I probably would have you know, any number of things, because there's at least three or four times that I should have died, like the car wreck, Like there's there's at least two times where where time literally slowed down. And at the time when I was in the car and my buddy Jason Hymes, he was driving,

and we would get on the freeway and I had no seatbell on. I was in the back seat in an old I think buick, and his girlfriend Candace was set up front of the passenger and we're getting on the three way five going north and we're coming up on the Lost Flora's exit and I just happened to look, and it was at nighttime. It was probably seven or eight o'clock at night, and I see this white band in the slow land, like not moving. It was part no Hazard's on, no lights on

or nothing. And I see this and I'm like Jason, and I point at it and he slams on the brakes and he's like, sixteen, right, we're just leaving Bible group at the beach. We had like a Bible group in girls bed and so we're sixteen, dude, and maybe seventeen. But yeah, I should have died like it had I. So he slams on the brakes and as he's the car locks up and it's like right,

and so the ice can. I can still see it, like the car slowly going and just time just slows down, and I see out the window I've watching this white band just slowly passed fire or right, and then all of a sudden, in the right side or my ear, like in my head, I hear this just very direct, very stern voice, and get down, like it was a direct order. And as soon as I heard that, I was like, I laid as flat as a board. I

laid down the back seat. It's flat as a board, bro. And as soon as I did that, boom, crash, bang bang, like we pen bawled across like three lanes on the freeway. So what's crazy is that I didn't even get hurt. Like I hit the top of my head on the on the back door on the right, the right door in the hind passenger. I hit the top of my head, but I could feel my body elevate and get bounced back and forth of the upholstery. It was

creasy, dude. It was insane and Jason actually whacked his head really hard, and so did Candace. And I remember we came to the stop. I could they're semi behind us, and its headlights are blaring through the back window. The back the window was all busted out and the glasses all over all over me, and inside the car, hear people honking their horns and Jason and Candas were like holding their head and stuff. And I remember I

rose up and I could tell I wasn't hurt. I looked at Jason in the back and said, and I could see the blood just gushing out of the back of the bed, and I had the presence of mind. I knew immediately what to do, and I was like Jason and I just stayed calm. I was like Jason, I took his left hand. I was like, I want you to put pressure right here, as hard as you can. So he put pressure right on the wound and then he started crying, you know, and you know I understand because he didn't want to die.

And uh, I told him I got to get canvas out, I'll be right back, and when I come back for he he kept calling for me, and I remember I got out of the car and got her out, walked her over, and that's when the cop walked up. We were all three of us on the side of the shoulder and I see the really tightly rolled wad of twenties and I went to go pick it up, and this cop walked up and stepped on it. Bro He stepped up and picked it up and looked at it just so like, you know, let me

know. And they walked up. I heard, Oh, my goodness, that is Yeah, that's that's what I mean. My life is just full of stuff like that. And people look at me like, oh sure, Bud, I'm like, no, for real, like that that's all that happened to me. Yeah, you know, sorry, go ahead, go ahead him go ahead. No, no, go right ahead. I'll just to say so, you know, like the other time times slowed down. I was at the the Hooya Indian Reservation and that's why I fell on the

fire. And this fire had been going for like two days. I mean, this site was hot. It had probably at least a foot of red embers like coals. It was a big old fire the custom made with like boulders and stuff from around the campsite, and this was it had all kinds of logs and fired. It was crazy broke, and Roach poked me in the butt with a stick because it was cold. Yeah, literally at the picture right right now that you drew. Yeah, I had my I had

my back to the fire and just freezing. And luckily I was wearing like pants, and I had a polyester jacket that Leah shout out to the older such Leah, she got me this jacket like a thrift store and had a polyester coating on it and it said Burt. I called it my Burt jacket. So I was rocking my bird jacket. I had really long hair, like a hippie almost, and I had a hat on, so I luckily I had a hat on that had my hair tucked back, and I had my hat on. So when he poked me in the butt, I turned

to my left. I was like, you bastard, and I went to kick him. So I kicked him my right. But the fire, the fire pit was at like a slight incline, so I was actual standing on a little bit of a slope and it had loose, loose dirt, and so when I went to kickle with my right, my left foot's all and it fell out and Dude, as soon as our left foot slipped out time again at times like slowed down like the main Remember yes, literally, Bro,

And I remember thinking like one thousand miles an hour. I remember saying like, well, if you do this, this is what's gonna happen. And I remember coming to my mind. I remember thinking the best option is to take a breath. It's gonna hurt, you know. Basically, if you don't want to get surgery burns and lose your arm or lose your hand and lose part of your face, take a breath, hitch your side on the wood of the fire or the rocks or something, and then that'll give

you cushion and I can basically want to blow out the air. I'll be able to bounce off from that. I'll bounce off and roll off the fire. That's exactly what I did. And Bro, I stood up and everyone's like, oh my god, my buddy. Ellie was like, dude, you just pull some neo easily pulled some neo bleep, And I was standing in my on my right side, my right side was no, this is my left side is My left side was all jack And I'm pretty sure I

either cracked the rib possibly or I did something. I hurt myself pretty bad, but uh, I saved my hand, I'd saved my face. And it was crazy. It was like everything I thought to do is exactly what I needed to do, and I did it in a matter of probably a second, but it seemed to take like four seconds. It was. It was very bizarre. It was like and they said that when I hit the

fire. They said that I made like a like a really loud like air was leaving my body like really forcefully, and my throat was really sore for like a whole day because all that air got shoved out of my lungs. I probably almost collapsed along, honestly, because I landed on my ribcage cheez, and it allowed me to bounce off of it, just like I thought

I was gonna do. It's crazy, that is insane. So yeah, And the whole left side of my face was like like a like an old man, like a bald dude's head, like it was super smooth, look at baby, But my eyebrow was sinned. My my sideburns were gone, like just being over the fire for half a second that that fast, and my my jacket got melted. My hat got melted a little bit. It

was crazy. Yeah, yeah, and get and get getting those type of burns or are life altering that the graphs and just the years of of healing with all this stuff. So you're you were certainly blessed that that God was looking out for you that day A hun percent. I wanted to cover one

more thing and then kind of close it out. But I think it's important that we mentioned chapter nineteen because ultimately, you know, the reason that you wrote the book was to help and I'm quoting here directly from your book, to help others find their way to Jesus through their supernatural experiences in life. And you had gone through many in your life and you knew it would help

others make sense of theirs. So if you wouldn't mind, would you talk a little bit about your time at Albertson's and your relationship with Lynette and how that changed everything. Oh wow, Yeah, that's a that's a good one, George, if the good one. Uh yeah. So Lynnette was a very special person. She she fighted in me. I got to know her to worked with her in the deli, and during this time I was running to and from work. Okay, So every day I was running probably two

miles, two and a quarter miles. It's actually the same time that I came up with the concept of my running two that I'm trying to get patented. It actually forces you to run correctly and on the way to work. This is gonna sound it's gonna sound odd. But I had an old walkman, a CD walkman. Oh they were terrible school ones. It would carry a single CD, right yep. So I had this crazy idea. I remember thinking, I was like, I wonder if I run this way,

if if the CD will skip? And so I did. I ran to work because I was already running the work, so I just figured I might as well have fun with it. So I jogged the work. And what I realized was by running how I was r versus you know, planting the traditional way people planning the heel. So I ran both ways. And what I realized is that my way of running would actually it actually skipped way less like it would still skip a little bit, but the other way it would.

So in other words, I thought of this, well, well, this time I thought of this idea of the running show. At the same time, I'm telling you about Hnette. So I was running to work one day. She had recently tried to she wanted to I had missed to say, wanted to hook up with me. And me and her we liked each other. And so I remember God was like putting on my heart, like

to to be a good witness to her right. And so she wanted me to look at some pictures that she had made, especially made like in a studio and stuff, and she knows it was there were really nice, really nice pictures. But I didn't feel comfortable looking at him. And I could It was like I could feel God looking at him. I could steel him watching me while I was sitting there talk with it. And so I told her, I said, Lenette, I'm not going to look at those,

and she's like, what why. I was like, I just I don't think it's the right thing to do. And she goes, she's like, you're weird. She didn't know how to dig with it. So but I remember I was scared. I was scared of what God would take of me. I guess if I didn't do what he wanted me to do. So so she by doing that, she I guess trusted me more, you know, Yeah, and I told her, I said, look, if we're gonna, if you and I are going to be a thing, I want

to do it right. I don't want to do something behind the back or whatever. So she started telling me more stuff about her personal life and how she experienced supernatural stuff. And I was like, oh, here we go, it's right down my alley and so and so she was blown away with stuff I would tell her. And she started telling me more stuff and her dad she experienced. And so one night she was closing, it was her turn to close. I was about ready to get ready to go home,

and so I did her favor and I took out all the trash. And you have to take the trash out to the back and the compactor, so at a giant, a big old metal flatbed. She to called the trash back. But when I did this, I took all the trash back. I told her, all right, I'm going to take the trash and then I'll come back up and I'll go home, Like all right, so bend. When I did that, I am coming back up to the deli. I remember, I just I felt I needed to pray for I felt I

just started praying right. I was walking this really loud was when you push these flatbeds by themselves, they're really loud, but if you put something on them that they don't make a noise really, right, So I'm pushing this thing up through the store, making all this racket, but I'm still praying to myself. That's just a funny thing for me. So I'm going up

to the deli. What just proves that you can pray to God in any situation, right, Yeah, So I'm praying in the situation and I'm like, God, I pray that you use me to speak to Neet, I said. I said something like that, like use me to Lynette, help help me reach her and bring you glory and help me witness to her, something like that. And so I get to the deli. I sit on you know, I pushed the flatbed against the spot into the delhi and put it away, and I get up on the table and and something can tell

me to just start talking her. It's like, thanks, Colin, I really appreciate it. She said, you know this and that, And then I started talking to her. She was standing probably tend fee to away from me, and I was sitting on the table. And then I started telling her why I did want to look at the photos and how much I cared about her, and I started talking to her about God and dude, the next thing I know, I'm sitting there and then I feel It's like in

the book I put. The best way to describe it is like you're driving right and it's like you put the car in cruise control, and then you turn on the heater, and then you climb into the back seat and the Holy Spirit sitting passenger, and he slides over and he takes over the wheel, and then you're in the back seat and you just put your head back and you close your eyes, and that's that's just the best way I could

describe what happened. It was like I was talking to her and I started feeling warm, and I could like slowly I remember, I'm assuming my eyes rolled back because I remember like zoning out, and I could hear myself talking, but I could hear it was like you ever seen that movie get Out? No? I have not, Huh, Okay, well, there's a part in that movie that reminds me when I'm describing right now. So it's almost like I was sinking back into myself and I could hear my voice,

but it started like fading out. It was bizarre, and I just felt warm and tingly, and and then all of a sudden, next thing, I know, Linet, it's like calling, and and I like, I like, come back, right, I come back, and I'm looking at her and I'm like trying to focus, and I'm not sure what just happened. And she's like wide eyed looking at me, and she's crying. She's had tears on her face, and she's like calling, and I was like what, I like shook him, like what She's like, you were glowing.

I was like what And I didn't know what the heck, I didn't know what. I didn't know what was going on. All I know is is that that's what happened. That's what she told me. And I was when she said that I was looking at her. I was freaked out.

I was scared. And then and it was like for a second or two, we're looking at each other, and then I saw her get like really embarrassed or like I could see like she was like ashamed to look at me, and then she she she turned her face and she she walked away from me, and it was just it was all God, it wasn't me, had nothing to do with me. It was the Holy Spirit showed up. I know it was the Holy Spirit. It wasn't me. So she she saw she saw. I don't know what she saw. I just know that

she said I was glowing. So what exactly does that mean? The only thing I can think of is in the story of Moses when he came down and he was glowing and everyone that they said, cover your face, we don't want to look at you. So it's it's the Holy Spirit showed up and convicted her, and that's why she felt so ashamed. And she wouldn't talk to me, and so I was freaking out. I didn't know what was going on. I was scared. I was like, oh my gosh,

what has happened? And nothing like that had ever happened to me before, and uh, you know, she wouldn't talk to me, and so I was it was real awkward, and so I was like, Okay, well, I guess I'll talk to you later, and she just, you know, she kept sweeping up the deli and all the lights were off, and so I walked out the doors. I said, all right, good night, let that and she she said, all right good night, and she would look at me and yeah, so it was. It was very

uh, and it's very humbling and very sobering. And let me tell you, when God chooses to when God chooses to answer a prayer, a lot of times she'll do it in a way that you could never imagine. So she obviously impacted her. And so that was a witness to her. I know it was. And I prayed for her beause she was barren, she couldn't have children, and so I told her I prayed, I prayed for her, and I was like six months later or whatever it was, she

she got pregnant and she had a she had a baby boy. And she told me that was that's that's what she wanted in life more than anything. And so I prayed for her, like earnestly prayed for her because I my heart went out to her and I loved her. I cared about her, and and so uh when she told me that, I told her, I took her by the shoulder and I said, Lynette, I want you to know that I prayed for you. God answered my prayer. He gave me the baby. And she started crying and she's like, oh, by gosh,

I believe you. I totally believe you, because she had given up. She thought she was never going to have a kid. Sure, and so that was all gone. And then me and my buddy or Esta went to the ball and her baby boy was turning one. Wow. So I went, I bought this. I bought this denim jacket, and I bought the jacket and I had it embroidered on the back wonderboard because it wasn't supposed to be bored. She just started crying. I gave her the jacket.

She started crying, and it was just a really cool thing. And God is absolutely made. That was all. It's an amazing story. Uh. And it's a great book. And the last thing I did what to do before you addressed the audience, thank you for putting at the very end of the Bible the book. You you gave specific instructions on how to get saved, but you also noted that you don't have to read the Bible first in order to be saved, and you actually give you know, a step by

step directions on how to get saved. So kudos to you on that for for putting that in there. And uh, again, folks, I'll have the links in the show notes. You can get it on Kindle if you prefer it that way, hardcover paperback. It's all available for you. And one thing I will tell you is Amazon is pretty quick about it. I think I got mine in two days so, and you know, it was a rainy day and they were a little careless with it. But I have

another one. My replacement is coming on Saturday. You know, what are you going to do? But again, thanks for your time, thanks for sharing your story. And it's quite a story, quite a journey, and I certainly want to give you the the last bit of this podcast to address the audience with your thoughts and anything else you'd like to add. Yeah, thank you, George, and thank you for letting me come on. You're always so humble man. Yeah, I got a lot of respect for you,

dude. And I don't I don't say this. I give credit work due. I'm the type of person might get me a compliment. It's it's sincere. I don't just say it. I'm talking to it. But so you're the real deal. I wanted to say, everyone listening, like I say in the book on the back, I'm the back of the book. Jesus is knocking on your heart, and he loves everybody. He does. He's not a respect for persons. So it doesn't matter who you are, doesn't matter what you've done, he will. He will redeem you, just

like he redeemed me. I'm a filthy senter. Let's let's get something straighter. I'm a filthy sinner just like everybody else. So I'm not better than you. You know, I'm not more special than you. It just so happens that, for whatever reason, I'm going to find out when I get to Heaven, I'm gonna ask God all kinds of questions. You know, you know, why he did this, why I did that. I'm sure he's gonna tell me that He isn't been a wisdom decided to allow me to

go through these saints. And he loves you just like he loves me. And yeah, just start reading the Bible. Just read the Bible. This is just read the Bible. The truth is in there. Go to God. If you know you're looking around and you see stuff, how it's going on in the world. Prophecies are fulfilling. The Lord's coming back, and people are still gonna mock, but Jesus is coming and you need to get saved. Don't put it off, because no man knows if he's going to

live tomorrow. I might die tonight, I might die tomorrow. I don't know. So if you have the chance now to get saved, get saved, because that's it. That's all I say, And that's a great way to close it right. Nobody's guaranteed tomorrow, So get saved and profess it out loud while in prayer. Again, if you'd like to reach out to Colin, his email address will be in the show notes, and of course the links to many things that we talked about during this conversation, we'll be

in there. If you have a podcast and you'd like to bring him on, reach out to him. I'm sure he'd love to share his story and and get this out there. So again, thank you so much Colin for your time and listen. Congratulations on it's a huge deal to say that your your author, Joseph Colin Wright, So kudos to you and uh and uh your message and much success to you. God bless everyone to have a great week, and again, keep your head on a swivel. And until the

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