Episode 133: Interview with Shayne

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much to do, so please do check it out again. It is the flat earth files dot Com joining us today. Actually, as we record, it's Wednesday, January tenth, a little lefter eleven am Eastern time. It is Shane joining us from Ontario, Canada. And Shane, how are you doing today, sir h I am doing well. George. Nice, nice

to finally meet you. Yeah, you too. We have been corresponding for a while, sharing some interesting conspiracies, and of course today we're going to be talking about what we call the granddaddy of all conspiracies, and that is flat Earth. But before we do that, why don't you take a moment and introduce yourself to the audience. All right, thank you, George. Uh, well, my name is Shane Alamotte. I'm actually from a little place called Chatham, Ontario, Canada, and little hole in the wall about

forty five minutes away from the Detroit border. Just kind of getio respected there. So growing up, I grew up in the Kadam and never really left it, quine anywhere. But growing up I ended up growing up in the foster home and I thank God for it all the time because my first foster home they dragged me to church. It was a Pentecostal church, but they dragged me to church. So I kind of learned about God kind of before

I even went to the Doctor Nation school. So so by the time I got to the school and stuff, I I didn't quite get this whole evolution stuffs and everything else. So but anyway, nonetheless, so I grew up. I went to there were a great Foster home. I went to a second Boster Home, which wasn't so great. I went through some experiences there and kind of made me a bad feed. I fell away from the church

and did everything I could wrong. So then, anyway, I always kind of knew growing up that there's just something wasn't right in the world, I guess, so I I just kind of went through like rebelling, rebelling against everything, against anxiety, anything with authority. I tried to stick it to Thom the best I could in a way growing up and stuff. Then I got some bad stuff and anyway, ended up getting married about twenty I was

married for about ten years with the youth leader. Actually for a while for about eight of those ten years. It was kind of fun. Ended up getting burnt out really bad, and I was a new Christian at the time too, and ended up getting burnt out really bad and left the church and ended up getting divorced and all that. So and kind of life went on. I don't know where to go from here. I guess that's the middle

bit of an injection. It was pretty quick, no, no worse, go ahead, Oh good, no wad no's say you're doing great, go right ahead, okay, thank you. So yeah, So anyway I started hearing so uh, I guess, uh, my journey to the truth here uh the ladder. So what happened was I woke up. I was on midnight and I woke up two thousand and one, September eleventh. I went to bed, probably just before everything went crap, and so I woke up and all in here is all this stuff going on, how the world's coming

to an end and the towers fell and all this stuff. And I was a little beside myself. It's like, what the world's going on? And uh, fast forward about twelve years later, twenty twelve, maybe eleven years later, I was hearing muttering that it wasn't what it seemed. It was like an inside inside job. And so at that time, the the Internet or the YouTube was still free, and there was a lot of videos. I can't remember that CoP's name. He was a color cop h New York.

Was he was like one of the first ones to figure out that, you know, things weren't right. He was trying to tell everybody. I think he's gone now. I wish I could remember his name. Yeah, I remember that interview. He was sitting next to another guy and they were covered in dust. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the firefighters there and they were talking about explosions and he was like, oh, the planes, and like what plane? Like, there's just explosions. They come up from underground.

And there was the explosion that we're coming up from underground in the lobby, the whole lobby. Now, how is that possible? So it was just kind of crazy. And then I then I found loose change. It wasn't follow the money, It's called loose change. And that's when I found out that there are rulers, there are controllers in this world. And I did uh, kind of threw me for a loop and it kind of went down its rabbable for a while, and I just got so depressed. I'm

not a depressed person. I never been to press person. And but going through that rabbit hole I was I got pretty during the cress. It's a tough one. Oh man, it's a really hard one to swallow a lot of evil. So then, yes, yes, it's it's mind blowing. I just can't believe that, you know, anyone would allow or even orchestrate such things. And Shane, can I add something. I think it's important that when they pull these type of SI ups, there's a reason why they

make them so large. It it's intentional for us to believe that there's no way that someone could be responsible for something like this, right, And that's very important to remember that all of these sye ups they're done, you know, it's it's a fear based mind control and it's real because and again I hate to beat a dead horse, but there's a reason they put you know, TVs in every classroom back in eighty six for the Challenger, And I wanted to ask you when you were watching on a lot, how old were

you on September eleventh, two thousand and one. Oh, I did my twenty. I'm forty. Sorry, I'm forty six years old. Sure, I guess they should put that in there. Yeah, so you're in your early mid twenty Yeah, okay, yeah, so yeah, I within the kid and then yeah, I was I was looking at that I was getting into depression and I was just trying to get away from it. And I

got this method stay in that the earth flat. That was my reaction, Okay, like come on, like let's get out of here, like here, here, here is the picture of the r here's here's the picture of the curve and all this stuff, like what do you hear me there with this flat? Eventually I kind of looked into it a little bit and yeah, yeah, my dad, Yeah I might be onto something here. But at that time I was already at the end of my rabbit hole with nine

to eleven on my depression. Nobody was I was yelling at the top of my lungs about that. Everyone thought I was crazy, nobody wants to listen. And then I get this slatter thing, and I'm like, well, no one's listened about nine to eleven. Who's gonna listen but the slatter? So I just kind of tucked the way, uh to the waist side there and uh. And then fast forward to June. This June June tenth.

I remember the date quite fondly. The girlfriend actually left for a vacation, which kind of left me alone, and I got tired of just putting into music on Spotify all the time. So I was like, well, I wonder what kind of lat Earth podcast you may have, you know, me make them learn a little bit more, and yours was the first one that popped up. Interesting, and that still blows my mind. I know we talked a little bit before the podcast, but you remember the day in the

month and the year. I mean, granted it's recently, still you remembered June tenth. I can kind of remember the month and year, but it's amazing that you remember the day, which I think probably I don't want to assume, but I'm assuming that it's because it had such a profound impact it was on me as well. It took me a couple of weeks to digest it all, so it was obviously a pretty big deal for you as well.

Yeah. I was already kind of like already petering on the possibility, but you when I heard that first episode, why the lie, whoa, and uh, I think that's what did just made it quick. And then on to the next and then like why uh, you know, deal Cole but why you know, and then the Nazis excuse me, it just it just kind of went from there and then all seemed to everything. I don't know if it's something really clicked, something just really resonated with me. And

uh, I've listened to all your podcasts either even recently. I think you have one hundred and thirty two up to date, sobody listened to all those and so it's like, uh, it's almost come like a numb session to me. Yeah. Yeah, So I remember first time trying to tell a friend actually, uh Carol Anne shout out to Caroline, were I guess we're going to take a turn here. She's fifty four years old, she's done a nursing home. Uh plea shot, Oh my goodness from the flu vaccine.

And she was very I admitted bout the vac and uh so, yeah, that happened about I think she said twenty eighteen. That actually happened to her. It started I'm sorry. So we ended up touching base again and so she was the first one and I ended up trying to explain and and uh and I think she gets that it makes more sense to her, which is kind of cool. But yeah, the vacting. I can't go anywhere with this conversation. Yeah, man, I'm so sorry to hear that.

That's listen. I try to tell people there is no such thing as a magical elixir that works for everyone. And if you believe that, then you're there. There's a good chance that there's something you know negative that can affect your life. It's you know, And I think i've I'm sure sure I've mentioned this before, but it's very interesting how they correlate the two rabbit holes. Right, if you're an anti vaxxer, you're a flat earther, right.

And I've heard people at the top of the food chain even mention that, like the Obamas in these type of people who have this big stage and know when to plant these flat earth seeds to make us look crazy, and so it that was mentioned often in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one. Well, if you're an anti vaxer, you might as well be a flat earther, And it's made to ridicule and to mock. And again I always say, if you're catching flak, well, then you're probably you're probably over the

target. And there's just too much information out there now and listen, there's been books written hundreds of years ago about this. Just put anti vaccine posters nineteenth century and you will see actual groups like formal groups, the anti vaxxer's movement and posters of snakes in town saying stay away from this poison. And even they called uh the pharmaceutical industry back in the eighteen hundreds. They knew

it was about profit. So this and again they'll tell you flat earth is new, it's a syop, and being an anti vaxxer it's new, it's a sy op. These things have been around and have been you know, heliocentrism and vaccines have been questions for centuries. So don't believe that for a second. No, no, And I couldn't believe when you when I was first learning about Spanish new not Spanish, not Spanish, nor put that in perspective right there. Yep, yep, one hundred percent. Yeah, So

that was my birth. That was the nervous channel, octor about ladder and stuff. And just make an offense because I think I was fill on. Just made your first episode that you they have done so it didn't take me along, And then you give me the conviction that help share, you know, with the opera righton paper clips and I dump fish bowls one of I'm brown, I'm I'm sure. I'm just kind of going believe, No,

you're good. I'm all over the place like squirrel. So yeah, and now even over just the last year, there's so many outlets that you can find. And I know you wanted to mention a few other podcasts out there that have helped you kind of along your way, especially that one podcast who has the great what's his name Alex who's the star of the show over there? Oh yeah, the great Yes, yes, great Alex Paul. Yes, he is my inspiration of greatness in this world. Old Alex. Well,

he's a number forty episode number forty two, Roderic Biles alumni. That's right from the Fundamental Pelotest right, roll you're off, dude, he had the peramnals. It's really good. That's who I found and from you all your guests and stuff. And uh, and I do believe that it was Alex had actually came up silver bullets pretty sure. I think he had the silver bullets in the chamber. I was just looking into his u to his episode there yesterday, and so I think he was the one that came up

with silver bullets, which is pretty cool. So okay, So anyway, yeah, so my my thoughts on stuff with trying to make sense of things. So sorry, I'm just all over the place here, but like just the speed of the earth itself, so just to put it in perspective, speed of sound, so I'm in kilomitive given in Canada. Sorry, but the speed of sound is one thousand, two hundred and thirty fives. That's the speed of sound. And now what we're spinning at, so that's seven

hundred and eighty seven miles per hour. That kind of commuted it with the speed of the spin. We're traveling at sixteen one hundred kilometers an hour, which is one thousand miles an hour, so which equals out to one point two one point two times the speed of sound. So we're any past the speed of sound. Okay. So and then now we're toddling around the sun one hundred and seven thousand kilometers an hour, sixty seven thousand kilometers miles for

hour. That's eighty six times the speed of sound. Eighty six times? Can we save them that? And then we got so then we got a third motion here, hang on, here we go the third motion at seven hundred and forty thousand kilometers an hour one hundred and forty eight miles per hour, four hundred and forty eight thousand miles hour. You know, that is like five hundred and sixty nine times the space of speed of town. Yeah. Did anyone like I'd never heard anyone you really think about it? And

I'm just thinking about that. So and then what's the law of the Newton Every action has an equal and opposite reaction, correct, Yeah, So shouldn't that count with here that we're traveling like five hundred and sixty nine times faster than the sweedest down? Should you not be five hundred and sixty nine times in opposite reaction? Yeah? Or am I just crazy? That's a great point. And so if we're we're spending in a book, go ahead, Yeah, that's what I think. And I don't know, no, go

ahead. Yeah. I was going to say, when you present this just brought of people, just don't put that in perspective. Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. And again, when you present this evidence to the naysayers, they will come up to whatever you know, scientism feeds them and there are so many other examples, literally hundreds of examples. Again with all the

spinning and quirk screwing and chasing the sun throughout the soul lore system. You know that the North Star and actually that star in the South, I forget the name of it. They are always in the same place and they do

not move at all. And I think that was probably you know, word was getting out about the Georgia guidestones, you know, and two of the well, there was a couple creepy things on it, keeping humanity, you know, keeping the population at five hundred million and according to the official numbers, which I'm not even sure that's true. I think that's blown up a little bit. But we're you know, seven and a half billion high from that. And then of course it had a little drilled in it so you

could see the North Star every single night. And if we were really spinning and hurdling, would that really be the case. And you know, one of the most you know, when you say prove heliocentrism, well gravity, well gravity is still a it's not a law, that's a fact, it's still a theory. And if you just present the two when you look at Occam's razor which is pretty much says whatever the simplest explanation is more than likely. That's what it is. And you present biblical cosmology aka flat earth ak

geocentrism versus heliocentrism, which one makes the most sense. You're right, exactly exactly. So again, just put a kind of in perspective a bullet speed average you know, they all, I'm sure very average speed is about three thousand kilometers per hour one hundred milesprep. So that's just to put it in perspective. That's just the bullet. We're traveling way past our speed of the bullet way past the feet is sound. But yet what's their only proof?

So this is what I bring to my other people from my own. My friends kind of think about the things. But the only proof that they have of a spinning globe is this pendulum on on the equator, just swinging back and forth like that. That that that's it. I'm just trying to figure out. Okay, so what about this crean here with that wrecking moll it's kind of you know, hanging there, not moving. Are just anything hanging

in general? Nothing else is moven except for this one little pendulum swinging around it's proven the earth movement. That doesn't make any sense to me how it is that moving? But nothing else is Yeah, even that water basin trick that people do on the islands, uh, you know near the equator. Uh. It all depends on which way the water is fed into the basin, which determines how the water spins. Uh. There are people, right, and I can do that. Yeah, yeah, I can do that.

I might think, might think. And when I'm renting stopped oot or what not, and I see it twelve in the one way, I can use the prayer and then make it go the other way. Yeah, just tricks, right, yep, old house trick. So yeah. Another thing is too where we take all the water, all the water office office office,

ball office rock? You know, is it perfectly symmetrical? How can it bend perfectly at perfect harmony if it's just a completely added wat right, if you take all the water off the off the outs of the earth or whatnot, what's the rock lob? Like? Right? The perfect ball? You know? He got seven mile trenches and then not to mention the great big giant he's count then at the bottom of the globe. How is that keeping it? You know? How does that keep it from wobbling anything?

Just added slightly out of balance? Well, wobble and there's no wobble here? Do you feel anything? And then of course the compass right, why does it always face north right right? And then you don't see they can then all the stars, you don't see any one of those crossing each other, crossing each other's path or anything. And that's another thing about the speed. So I even calculated, like how far I couldn't possibly travel in this in this life, And so I got it all down here. I did

this actly yesterday. So like I trial, so seven hundred and twenty thousand kilometers an hour times out by twenty four. That's seventeen million, two hundred and eighty thousand kilometers that's in a day. That's what we travel in a day. That says times at by three hundred and sixty five. And then that six billion, three hundred and seven million, two hundred thousand kilometers in

a year. So my age is forty six. So so far I've traveled two hundred and ninety billion, one hundred and thirty one million, two hundred thousand kilometers. Now, how is all the stars still in the exact thing spot when I was a child, you know, the Big Dipper I'm always seen in the Chames spot in the sky that I've always seen in my whole entire life. So if I traveled just that length in my forty six years, how am I still able to be the Dame third in the exact same

spyt of this guy. Man, you're entitled to some frequent flyer miles. That's a lot, I would think. So I think you all are, yeah, but you make it great to We're crazy. So this is kind of the free thinking I'm thinking of, how I think you know, Yeah, the key is getting people Sorry, yeah, no, go ahead. I was just going to say, the key is getting to people to think

outside the box. But, like you said at the beginning of the podcast, the education system that they've built and that they really hijacked in nineteen seventy nine, at least here in the States when the government officially took over and they you know, officially created the Department of Education, that they they killed critical thinking because you know, as we say, the Rockfeller wants a country of workers, right, they don't want a country of thinkers, at least

here in the United States. And we know that's the case around the world exactly. Yeah. So so I've been trying to wake up friends. I'm just I don't know, I'm on fire about this church, and so shout out, uh some people at work, Pat Kelly or Pat all right. I don't know if they st laughing, but uh. He he's an old school he's sixty seven years old. And when we first met Rave, we've

always talked conspiracies. He's very, very knowledgeable in his conspiracy and he'd used to wear NASA shirt to work well as of June when I figured out for it is flat and stuff. So I've been kind of talking to him. I gave him, Mom, there's a really good if no one's seen it, please check it out if I YouTube. It's called The Lost History of the Flatter. So I sent that to him and for him to take a look at and and he was watching it and come up to me with about

different stuff. More lasted about the you know, the Incubator was about the world sphere of stuff. So I was expecting him to talk about the flatter and uh he he never did. And I'm like, well, what do you think about that? And he's like, well, I can't. I don't know like that, I don't know. So and then every time he came up to me, I was expecting to say, you know what, you're right, but that that didn't happen up until about two weeks ago.

Actually he finally came up to me as after the Dean Ordle debate, the Deanodal debate, and uh, and I'm like, okay, well this is before I got cut where it was just Denotle. So I told you, you know, you got to go into I think it was an hour in two minutes or something like that. Actually listened to Dean Ole and so yeah, the next day or when he heard it, he actually came out to me and think, you know what, it makes sense. So it's just

kind of really cool to see somebody actually come from an indoctrination. And this is the guy I think you thirteen years old watched the moon landing on television, so he was very heavy in doctrine into it. And like I said, he was wearing NASA shirts and stuff, and then once they got talking to him and his NASA shirts went away. So I know we'd be going to be listening to this podcast. So a big shout out the path. Shout out to Pat by the way. You know I should mention this because

this news broke yesterday. You know. I had mentioned on some of the earlier podcasts that the presidents always announced that we're going to Mars and it'll or you know, a big space project, and it gets kicked down the road. And I said in probably December of twenty twenty two that for sure one hundred percent more than likely unless they were going to use it as a diversion,

because I think that was originally scheduled for election day. I said, well, maybe they'll do a Challenger two point zero to divert from another crazy election day. But once again the Artemis mission got kicked down the road. It was financial and all these other things. And now it's delayed until at least twenty twenty six. So more big talk and they do not walk the walk. Now, isn't that funny? Yep? So they have a little

bit of delay. In the nineteen sixty nine you know, space race and whatnot, and boom they rate on and oh we got that this boom, We're off to the moon. But and nowadays, when we have better technology, now we've got to push it back two more years. But yeah, sure looks further that makes sense. Look at nineteen sixty nine and and just the cars. I mean, they had better cars back then, like who went want at sixty nine Mustang? But technology wise, like look at a

Tesla today that drives itself. And you're telling me that we're having a more difficult time than from you know, fifty three whatever the math is, you know, fifty years ago, which they went to the Moon with the basically the technology of a game boy. Right, it's just absurd and not even Yeah, it was like I think kill a byte? Yeah, like you was you a megabyte? Might megabite? Yeah? Of data? Yeah, and that I'm bringing you up to another inclusion that I have that just rethinking

actually thought that their laugh meet. Okay, so I've been looking out, Okay, where let me come from? You know, all science tells us the moon came from the Earth, Right, some kind of planet or something smashed in the Earth and the Moon came out of it. So okay, my question is where are all of our reflective rocks on Earth? Where are all these magic reflective rocks? So the Moon came from the Earth, did it take all the reflective rocks from Earth. Well, you know what I

mean, Like it's hard to ode them. And then you know, if the moon's shining as bright as it is sometimes when it's really good, nice and full, Yeah, the squint a little bit because it's pretty bright. But the guys on the moon were able to take pictures and stuff and that, and what kind of in that light and the atmosphere. It just I'm just trying to make sense of this. How does that make sense if it's

so bright here on Earth but yet it is still dark up there? And how can so how can something and the shadows on the moon, Yeah, and how can something that is so dusty give off a light like that? Right? The pics with an astronaut standing next to the US flag, which obviously had was being artificially held up, you know, And we can talk about all the fallacies with the shadows and everything else, but again, how could something that is you know, basically moon dust and sand give off a

light that bright? Exactly? So then that makes the Bible real to me? That you know greaton gennisis she gets off her own light. You put two great lights in each guy. So me, being a young Christian kind of fell away from the church and stuff, and didn't really think about it very much. And God wasn't more of a magic man in the sky where you know, from another I don't know, universe or something, and it

doesn't really make it real. Wasn't real to me. And then when I found out that the letter Biblical that there is a firmament that has throne is above the firmament, then he's looking down at us like grasshoppers, which made it super real. Like I mean, like I I just I f although I need. I started praying really hard, more than I ever have even when I was a youth theater growing up as a child in the church and stuff. I don't think I prayed. I think I prayed more now in

the last six months and I did my whole entire life before. Because of this. It just makes it so he's there, it's real, like how did the you know, how did he ascend into the heavens? You know what I mean? Like what do you do just travel past the Van Allen Belt and go to some other planet? Is that possible? You know? And so yeah, that's what made it super super real to me. And

then which got me right back into the Bible. I got to tell you this is that before, before any of this, I felt the tugging. I felt that God telling me I need to get back to the Bible, and so I just kind of, yeah, yeah, I get there, keep putting it off that but I still have my Bible from a while ago. And actually in the new house that moved into, I found an old Bible but has it's really cool with the King Games version. But either way, I was going with this, Oh yeah, I'll get me back to

the Bible or so yeah. So I just kind of put it off, it off, and then when I found out, I thought her, who bimbo, fold it. I gotta okay, I got to look into this. And then just I got flat smacked morning, let's say. And then I'm I'm almost through the Old Testament. Now for the first time in my whole entire life, I've actually got beautiful Testament that's amazing, which is really really cool, which puts better perspective on the New Testament. So that's good

stuff. Man. You kind of so your your show helped me get back into the Bible and back into the Word of God and back into a relationship actually for the first time, a real relationship with the almighty Creator. Yeah, and I get that often, and it was the same way to me. It's right. I used to believe God was in this distant almost dimension, I guess you could call it. And then it was something that made you realize that just like the sun and the moon, that he's local.

He's right above looking down at us like grasshoppers. And these are the verses that we may have read in Sunday School or in church prior to understanding biblical cosmology. But once you understand how it works, all of it makes perfect sense. And it's not just words. It has true meaning, and it's it's overwhelming, all right. Then it goes to show that, okay, well, if God is real, well then unfortunately Satan, he's got to be real, and and the Bible says that he is, He rules the

thirst, he's he's here. And what it really gets me is that, you know, when Jesus being tempted, he took Jesus up on the highest mountain and told me, know, you bend your need to me. That's right, all this is yours. Obviously you wouldn't do it, and you intend me to the Lord, your God. But then well, Jesus ain't

gonna do it. I got people that will, and there's obvious people out there I haven't heard aboutrians and the occult of this world, which is still you to me going through your other podcast, the other one as well,

the back Hunter, very very inquisitive. That's awesome. But when I found out that there's actual, real evil in this world and all the symbolism in this world with all them i'll be lists and everything all over the all over the world and stuff, and how they uh still it aside with with Satan and and all the other gods and stuff, and how the rulers of the world, these rulers and not only believe it, but they cartakee you know,

and and actual blood rituals and sex rituals. You know. When I heard Jack Persons with Alistair Crawley, you know that started NASA, you know, and he's part of the occult, and then and then they come up with NASA and stuff as well, and then it's just mind blowing to me and how real uh evil this world really is and how deceived we are, because I remember reading in the Bible is oh that the whole world will be

deceived. Everybody will be deceaved. How are we deceived? And this is all making complete that see now that the whole world actually really hit the seed. Yeah, and you know it. I think they had everything laid out generationally and it has the technology has to be available for them to pull off these syops. For instance, I think zoom like you know how we're communicating

right now. This type of technology had to be in place for them to pull off COVID because if they didn't have this type of technology, most of the corporations wouldn't have signed off on it, right, because you can't not be able to have conversations and work from home without this, the entire economy would have collapsed. Back in during the Spanish flu, yeah, they wore masks. Yeah, you saw the signs for social distancing, but there was

no just the sick people stayed home. They didn't keep the entire population at home. And again, this was the first time in humanity where they quarantine healthy people, and and everything that this government said went against what should have been said. Get outside, get some sunlight, get your natural vitamin D, get some exercise, right, eat right, and things like that, right, And what did they do stay inside and take your magical elixir and

shut up was basically what they said. If you and if you went against the narrative, you got deplatformed, you got fired, on and on and on. Oh my goodness, Yeah I got lucky there. Yeah, there's one thing I did not fault for. I was read adamant about it. Beyond there see what kind of on the fence ended up talking her down, which is great. So but that's one thing I never really fell into.

And then I'm being a coworker. We're talking about it. We're talking about the numbers of people getting it and the numbers of people dying, and we actually did. We were doing the map and it's like cold cow. It has like a ninety over a ninety nine percent survival rates over ninety nine percent of other rates. So what what is the big deal? Why is everybody all up in arms over something that has over it? You know, you

know the same like the flu and pneumonia and stuff. I say, I personally blue COVID, But either way, I think they take out more more people than what this COVID did. So by a lot A lot of people were thinking about that because there's fear mongering on television. Oh, there's many people all died, and there's many people and everything else and just completely getting everybody fearful, you know, and that's uh, the psyops. You know,

that's when I found out about MK ultra. Okay, but what Yeah, they want you to believe that kulture doesn't exist anymore, but it continues on, trust me. And the mind control is you know, it works through the television. Trust me. They prepared your brain for COVID through the years with movies and television and things of this nature. So when it did come to light, it triggered people and they you know, they subtly through through this, you know, low key subtle mind control via the news and

the Internet and videos that type of thing. People were scared. And of course, just like Hollywood, they had these bit massive ships showing up to the docks and the West coast and East coast the USS comfort because all the hospitals were going to be overrun. They showed the videos which I questioned that came out of China, people collapsing in the streets. There's the infamous video of the guy in the body bag smoking a cigarette, which got through.

Because I do believe they have to disclose some lies sometime those type of things. It's just listen, the world. All the world is a stage. Well right, all the world is a stage, and well not too. I was trying to tell everybody like that, you know, I take when I was looking at I knew, like, you know, like, how long did it take to properly at the vacame? No, over ten years and these guys are rolling out within a month a couple of months, Like

what wow? And that's what really got me like, no that it doesn't it something doesn't add up there. Yeah, and and you know, so for you, it was very much like me, right, the flat Earth was kind of towards the back end of conspiracies. We've gone through the JFKs elevens, but you never stop learning that. That's the other thing. You find families. You know, everybody knows about the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds, but there's other families like the Orsinis and the Pisers and on and on and

on. You know, if you know their names, they're not at the top of the food chain. That is something that I've come to know. I figured that one out too as well. Yeah, for sure. And there's you know, much of everything that this whole, this whole thing where we live and much of it is is fake. And I think with technology and everything else, we're actually getting further and further away from how we should

be living. And I'm guilty as charged. Oh yeah, I seem to make I noticed a huge shift from evening sense when I was young to now the world just got inverted. The world just kind of like, I don't know, got turned, it died out, you know, because you know, when I was younger or younger, you know, manners and and anorhythms and and stuff like that, and uh, the live good, you know, what did you know? And then now it's but what bad is good

now? And what was good is bad. And I don't know where where that shift happened exactly, but it definitely happened in my lifetime because remembers opposite from when I was growing up. Yeah, I think there were some evils

out there, but they did a better job disguising it. And I keep going back to nine to eleven being the day where they stopped trying to hide their evil and they said, you know, I felt like that this is that was their you know, staking their their sword into the ground and you know, yelling combat that they were going after God and moreover the people who follow him, right, and then another shout out to Permamento. I was

listened to Raoul actually on his podcast. He was talking about like I knew, I heard about the textbooks and who ran the textbooks, and Robert Maxwell who published the mcgrel hill all textbooks, and and then lo and Bell hold his uh, his daughter, Juss Wayne Maxwell. He's all caught up in the Ebstein cape. Yeah, and one of the main contributors. And then I did a little bit of we're more of a deep dive in Maxwell and that it was like, did you have his heritage started in nineteen eighty four?

He has connections to the Desigonism, tied to the really intelligent uh. And it goes on and I the rabbit holes that what I finally keeps getting deeper and deeper and I can't keep up with him. Yeah. He was most definitely a massade on that family. You know, Robert Maxwell, Gislaine Maxwell, and knucklehead who didn't kill himself what's his name, uh Stein? Yeah, yeah, yeah, they were all mesade the other guy. Yeah. So yeah, this goes to show like the evil in this world and

they're the ones that are controlling our education. Yeah, one hundred percent. And by the way, let me add okay, I've never mentioned this before. Leon Black is a guy who used to be the CEO of Apollo Management, and Apollo Management was the one who later took ownership of mcral hill Books well after Robert Maxwell. Well, he got fired because of his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. He paid Epstein one hundred and fifty eight million dollars for air

quotes here for our listeners tax advice. So you know it has been and continues to be in the hands of people who do not have our best interest in hand. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Then he got the black Rock and the vanguard that that are, Like, you know, I've been googling everything lately, and like who has the most shares, the most shares in Google Surprise, the most shares in YouTube Surprise. You know you're going to see black are you gonna deep band garried up there with the most shares and

stuff. And then you know, and then come to find out that everything is being hidden or what do you call it, your free information out there, that they're controlling that information that we're trying to get that. We're desperately so trying to seek the truth, and they're desperately so trying to hide it. So that's why when you google something and whatnot and it goes against you know, you google clad earth and that, and uh, yes, it's

scientifically disproven. It's already scientifically disproven, so don't even look into it. Yeah, it just goes to show like the evil and the swells and how hard are going to I had the truth and had the truth about God? They try to tell us. Even if you go to a YouTube video, there's that disclaimer that says flat earth has been disproved and it's an archaic right type of mentality. So they do their best to shut people from hitting the play button. And then, by the way, going back to what you

mentioned, here's something very interesting. So the top share the top shareholders of American airlines Vanguarden Blackrock. Well, who's also the top shareholders of Pfizer Vanguarden, Blackrock. What was the big airline that fired everyone because they wouldn't get their vaccine? So either you had to get the companies, so they were making money. They were forcing people to take the vaccine so they could make money for their other stock. That's how corruptive a world we live in.

Yeah, that's just absolutely crazy. And I'm just learning all this, yourge banks, learning all this, and then my whole childhood destroyed, you know, because my first uh, the first blanket was a space man. I remember that vividly, and you know, and I love Drastic Park. And then come to find out, what what do you mean, they're not real, George, come on, don't don't give that team. And then but you know, but then the Biblical giants, that makes complete sent because it

says they were giants back in those days, you know. And so that's where I'm thinking they're getting these giant bones from. And most of the bones that I find of these dinosaurs are all fabricated anyway. They only got what one bone or two bones of the so called dinosaur, and they know exactly what the whole thing looks like, right Like it's another deception. Man, I just don't. I'm like, yeah, it's just absolutely crazy to you

have. Everything that we know is the lie, you know, And and a lot of people what they can't understand is why would everybody lie to you? That's the one thing that I have a hard time getting past with certain people. I have no problems talking about it and stuff, but people just can't grasp how like okay, now, okay, so there's no space, but you know, how is thousands of people all in on the fly or a million? You know how is millions of people all in on the on

this lie? And they that's where it's really hard to comprehend. It's even for me still, even though I know what's going on, it's still hard for me to even comprehend. Yeah. And by the way, because you had mentioned that, I think now's a good time for you to mention. I think you sent me a video maybe a month or two ago about unicorns.

Oh yes, yeah, yeah. It was absolutely crazy. So that is part of the reason why people don't believe the Bible, right, because unicorns are mentioned in the Bible. Today we are believed that these unicorns are this magical creature with a horse with a horn on it and stuff like that, and so that's the reason why people say, oh, well, they don't exist, because obviously that's the mythical, magical creature. But if you go back, I think it was The cyclop Encyclopedia Fornica nineteen thirty eight.

Anyway back then, Yeah, the unicorns are actually real, you know, because the Bible talks about the strength of the unicorns. Well, a lot of people don't know is that the unicorn derives from if unicornis comes from rhinoceros. Now, there's two kinds of rhinoceroses there. There's one with the two horns, and there's one in Africa with one And what does the unicorn? What the word unicorn need one horn? Right, a unicorn one horn and

the strength of the unicorn. While if you ask me to write off this is great freaky charm. Yeah, there's a sorry, go ahead, but yeah, it's crazy when you go back to yeah, when you go back to older readings, the older books before you know, you actually get the real definitions the you need of back words. Yeah, you sent me that, and I did little research and I came across this text from Brown University Ivy League School from It's really interesting when you look at the dates of these

things. When you do research, it's not a coincidence that many of these dates happened to come around the big events, like specifically the Reformation. But there's something called the monosyrin the un cornice and the rhinocephalus like like you had just mentioned. But these collections were were kind of these writings were from the summer of fourteen ninety one, and then of course fourteen ninety two. You

know, the great story of Christopher Columbus. And if you square at home, that CC equals thirty three and right A is one bs two three is C. That's your thirty three. That kind of that's their sign, their signal, their symbol to say, ha ha, that's that's not for real. There was no Columbus to prove the earth was flat. And you know, fourteen ninety two they sailed the ocean blue. That's that's what they put

in our heads down here. But going back to the year before that story, there are these Latin and German works about these monoscerans, the unicorns, and the rhinoceroses. Historically not at that time, but people had the knowledge of them historically, right you know, yeah, they hiding the simple things like that well else here. So yeah, so it's kind of funny. So when I'm starting to share flattery with people, I was actually surprised there is a I went to my nephew shout out to j Anyway, he he

lives about an hour away and he likes to come down visit family. So I went up there so to pick him up and bring him back, and uh, he's about conspiracies as well. We talked conspiracies and uh so I was trying to figure out, Okay, how do I talk this flattery things? And I was a little nervous, and I was like, you know, you know the world's you know when they tell us. And then he's

like, I know, what do you know? So I talked to him about so my kate fine flatter kind of thing and he knew about it before I did. Was like, how did you not share this with me? Come to find out there's other people too that I've tried to share with its news. So I got probably about eight eight friends that and in total, I'm blasting them that I understand the flatter. It's it's really crazy. That's amazing to have that. Man, I couldn't with I gott you don't mind,

ID do I can find my shut out here? Yeah, the shadowt You'll be you'll be absolutely shock of the shutouts here. So I got a shout out to Tjah my buddy Pat at work, Darryl. Darryl is the guy that I give a ride to to work and he's in Well, it's kind of funny. It's so I guess that kind of brings me to this

story. I was I'm going to do shutouts in a minute, but I just got me thinking here that people that are willing to listen, or that are already knowing that there's some kind of lie in this world, are more opt to to look into it themselves. One guy gave a ride to work and he didn't believe in any conspiracies that he doesn't know how everybody thinks everything's a lie, and just you know, and he's all about the space and

stuff, and uh, we end up getting into a talk. I think it was about I'm going all over the place here the Las Deggas shooting kind of stuff, and how they're trying to pass the gun bill. Uh, just like what the day before, I got turned down. The next day the shootings happening in Vegas, and then just after that the gun bill passed. Surprise, it was just something a little like that wasn't even flatter, and he got so mad I thought he was going to actually punch me out

in the car. I had to actually stop and let him out a stake and walk that. That's how up that he got that he was not willing to listen. So I think that I was just trying to make a point that you know, you kind of have to set out people that are going to listen, that are willing to listen, and if not willing to listen, then you kind of that It was almost like beating a dead horse.

But that's where it brings me back to Darryl here where he, you know, another guy gave a ride to and and he's kind of he was kind of on the fence with with other things, and he kind of knew how the world and how the controllers alying to us. And then I brought him flatter, And of course no one's going to accept that right away, but I had all kinds of proofs for him, like the flight paths which got

him I asked them, but really helped him understand. And it was the flight path shout out to Dave Weiss and his flatterith map, flatterith clock I have that I'm going to pitch that for a second, if anybody go the

flatter the flatterth block, It's like three bucks. You're gonna spend that today anyway, get yourself that So much information in that, and that's why it helped me bring a lot of people, uh to the flatterers, showing them how like keeping the seasons work, you know, watching the sun go out to the Arctic Wall and then come back in to us, and how you know that Buck d Knock explained everything celesterial, you know, and the portholes. I was trying to figure out the portals. So every time I had

a question, God would answer me. I'm like, Okay, what what's this I'm reading about portals? The sun goes through six portals and these portals and that portal, and these days are that long, and these nights of this long and stuff. It's crazy how in this ancient text that they understood, uh, the cosmology. And then when I got the flatter at clock and I got to see it from itself, and it makes absolute sense not to mention all the wonderful videos and stuff that come with it. So that's

what. So when you got the twenty four hour night in the North Pole, that's when the sun is at the Antarctic circle. You know, when you got like the five months of darkness and the artic circle that's when the sun is back in towards the north. Like I said, I'm just kind of everywhere, squirrel everywhere. He's doing great, man, thank you. Uh so, yeah, so Darrell, so he uh so, flight pass got him and then everything else makes sense. Now he's telling me through some

stuff that you think about a lot. Pat is sending me videos of stuff that he's figuring out. So it's really really cool to get that back. My brother friend Scottie uh out to him. He knew about the netlum but the fallen angels and stuff before I did. And so he already knew about the flatter before me, which is really cool. And and his sister Sarah and her husband they were on the fence this summer and somehow they went over the fence and they are now a new pertential flatter there is as well.

That's awesome. Another guy, Sterling who's like a brother what do you call it? Brother in law? I guess some stuff and he knew all about that before me. Guy mentioned it and he's like, yeah, yeah, like the latter but yeah, of course, like wow, really you knew a both the two. So and then a big shoutout to Deandle as well for help and uh with his debate, getting my buddy learning and then norms that the full flod Earth is completely biblical. So but yeah, it's absolutely

crazy for for me. And then learning about the Netshlom, the Fallen Angels and why there was a flood. Everyone thinks we were learned and yeah, I don't even say doctrination, but that man was the role. That we were evil, That's why God sent the flood. It was us. A lot of man's hearts were evil. But come to find out that there was actually the Fallen Angels going on with women and making giants heroes of old men

of renown and stuff like that, and that would be my mind. I couldn't leave that, and and well I do it just it just makes every thing. It just makes more sense now with the Nephelin, the Allom angels to where they're going to the world now with all these aliens all the I see squirrels all the time. I'm just bouncing everywhere. Do you see them bringing in the near future? Do you see them trying to to pull off like a plot Project Bluebeam an alien deception in the near future? Manh.

Yeah, it's so hard for me to say because I never believed in aliens, right, Like I never did, like I know, I just I just didn't. And then to me, even bringing up aliens and talking about aliens is absolutely crazy to me. But put it in perspective of the fallen angels and how they were, well, they're kind of ruined us with the ancient aliens, right, there was higher power, they had better knowledge than not. They taught us, you know, how to build these magnificent,

magnificent structures. How they taught us all kinds of wonderful things and stuff, and that was all in the ancient alien And so I believe that has something to do with it that I believe that they're gonna now that they're going to bring them back and saying that yes, we are your God, we are your rulers, we made you, which is gonna usher end the anti grace, and so it makes it this is it everything just puts everything more together

for me when it comes to that. Yeah, that TV show sure was a great deception, right to get people to believe that, you know, life started off earth and these aliens came here and extra terrestrials visited the Earth, and on and on and on. It's it's a hugely popular show, but you really got to be careful, especially for people who uh can be

easily deceived these type of things, you know. And the other interesting thing is if you look at the numbers, like out of one hundred, what percentage of people do you think believe in aliens versus what percentage of people believe in flat earth? And why is it so shocking for someone to believe in flat earth? But it's not so shocking to believe in little green men who can travel, you know, billions of light years or whatever. Yeah, how can they keep like how can they keep up? I don't even know

where Earth is if we're traveling all the way smiles gps. Yeah, and then how do we get anythignaled? You see? You see all kinds of like videos any signal some some dormice planet and blah blah lah la, how the heat bah? Well, we're traveling, the feed that we're traveling.

We're never in the same spot. They just know where we are. But then come to things, come to find out that they're just falling angels, that they're actually here hidden from us, waiting for their time to make themselves known obviously, because you know, now all of a sudden, all these whistleblowers are coming out. Now they're showing trying to show the lower green men on TV. Oh yeah, oh yeah, they were aliens and all this stuff. So you know, are they getting ready to just see this at

the you know, it's the end time deception? You know, is this all part of it? Because it didn't say in the Bible too as well that the world is basically going to be all set up, right, it's going to be set up for the coming of the antigrise, and I think there that's what they're working on right now. Yeah, great points. And by the way, your government is responsible for some of that nonsense. This story is from October of last year, so from four months ago. Astronom

This from CTV, which I guess is Canadian TV news. Astronomers have detected a mysterious blast of radio waves that have taken eight billion years to reach Earth. The fast radio burst is one of the most distant and energetic ever observed. Fast radio bursts or FRBs, that's a new term we need to use. FRBs are these intense bursts of radio waves. So this signal scientists have this, you know, discerned it took eight billion years to reach this.

Yeah, and you know what I told you? How far I we completely traveled in my forty six years of life, Like, how do they know exactly where we're going to be in ten billion years? And like I don't know common done doesn't and how does one to do that? It took eight billion years? No matter how many degrees you have, How how do you decide that this radio signal took eight billion years to get to us? How

do they know any of this? How do they know any of the you know, like billions and billion like how like really, how do you know? And then I think I thought something about the news like ward Point was four point four billion years old. Then they go, no, we made a mistake. It's actually four point six billion years old. But the more they more they talked, the more it found, the more it found Philly. Yeah, No, that just doesn't make sense to me. And then

again that that's there. There's reasons why they push these stories because if you go on YEAHOO or MSN or AOL. I'm aging myself now, but uh, you know, Gmail and any of these websites that have news stories, you'll see them. You may just grace across them and move on to the next thing, but that that kind of subconsciousness does register that information. And

again a lot of this mind manipulation has done very subtly. Just a couple of months ago, NaSTA was telling you, uh that there's this sixteen hundred

foot asteroid that could hit the Earth. So you know, every day you could put asteroid meteor radio waves from outer space into your search engine and you will one hundred find stories on them, right right, And then yeah, and then all these theories, how they can teach us back down the theory of that lushin They teach us that like why don't like why can't we have like free thinking michaehy can't they say, Okay, so this is what scientists

think over here, and that is what other scientists think over here, and have our own discernment. No, this theory that we came from monkeys and where the monkeys came from some you know, we jumped out of the lake and all that, how did they how can you believe that over over the creation, over over the over creation and why did we say that far? If that's to me right, and the question I always asks is why did we stop evolving? Right, you know? And how how why are they

still looking? You know, and then come to find out that our inside, our anatomy is closer to that to a pig. Yeah, so how is that possible? They use anatomy is closer to a pig and blah blah blah liquid Yeah, they use parts from a pig like and we just take this treating. M hmm. Yeah, I just don't understand, like, you know, to me all growing up, creation was it made more offense to me. I've never believed in the evolution and never believed in the Big

Bang ever. But of course, you know, you never really looked into the Bible about creation either like I did. But then you're not thinking flatters wise, and then you're trying to put everything in together. And it just didn't make sense until I actually came across the flat Earth, and then it completely the whole creation, the beginning of the end revelations, how the guy is supposed to roll on back like a full third the stars Earth and that

and like boom, it just makes complete sense. And cow people much rather not believe that, much rather believe what man says, you know, and the Bible says, you know, every man's a liar, and you know, so who you're gonna believe, You're gonna believe what what man's fan or you're gonna believe what God's God's living words says. Then well said one of the recent emails you sent me, I think you sent me a week ago. And I don't know how often we've brought it up on the podcast was

Devon Island is one of these places. And I think that's like Northeast Canada where a lot where they film a lot of pictures of Mars. I believe, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, you google, just google Devon Island. I encourage everybody to do this bactly right now. If you want, you google Devon Island, then look at the images and you're gonna see images Mars, make them over you through whatever and stuff. And I did exactly research on myself, all on my own. No one showed me this.

I've actually looked at it myself. Then you go to Google Earth, go to Google Earth and pipe in Devon Island and I happened a long dude Manedgude, I can't really if you want to know, if you want can share that in your show description their village that because I circled the little part

of the Devon Island of of where it's blacked out. But you look at that Devil Island on Google, on the Google Earth, and you try to and you scroll in, you zoom in on a certain part of the island, you go to notice that there is a big white watch that they do not want you to see anything. Dude, they have something covered there that you're not allowed to see. So to me, I want to throw up.

I want to throw one of those points in that coincidence start for me there you go because to me that that that's a very big poincidence that you're happy to google Marror or happy to google Devon Island, happen to take the pictures of mirrors, and then you go to look all over Devon Island through this through that app, and then you happen to find that it's uh that

there's parts of the blocked off one hundred percent. And even when you Google it, you'll see the picture of that encampment which is blocked off of actual Google Earth, but on Google itself there is an image of it. And now Devon Island is between the baff And Bay and the Arctic Ocean. It is way north of Canada. It is like on the northwest corner of Greenland. And these are the words, not my words. This is the words

on Google. Devon Island is a mountainous Mars like Arctic island that spans about twenty one thousand miles with a sixty three hundred foot ice cap and crater. So again they tell you it is a Mars like with the craters and the red dust, and you'll see pictures. It's just they'll take the pictures and they'll put like a I guess you would call it like an orangeish red filter over the pictures, and it looks like they're on Mars, right yeah.

And how though picture I have it, I wish I could go through my boom right now. I got some much on it. But that groundhog or whatever they were, they they what were they? But anyway, the way a picture of myers and then picture of rocks, and then you hum in it on the rock and it happens to be like some kind of groundhogs over rat yep, that that is on you know, And then uh yeah, yeah, that was crazy. And then the fly on Mars Rover. I

don't know if you've seen that one. Yeah, I wanted to mention that picture that you had mentioned of the that rodent that was it's actually on the JPL's website and it's from twenty twelve. I will do my best to find it. When you look at the picture, it's like on the bottom left, and when you're just looking at it, you really can't tell. But you just have to blow it up a little bit. And it's completely obvious. It's not something that you know it's conspiracy. It is very obvious.

It's sometimes rode it. I think it's funny that left the picture up though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's still up. That's crazy. Yeah, so I can, uh, if you can't find it, then I can send you one in the email all kinds of the pictures and stuff like that. Thanks. But but yeah, it's just so for me if you guys want to share flat Earth honestly, like I just but it's just thinking logically, I find, you know, with all this other stuff like but the moon, the sun and the moon, that guys saw the moon phases

of stuff. Then you see the sun and the moon, the little slights to the moon, almost side by side. So how in the world is the earth he made in the shadow on that moon? And there's just different little thoughts like that that get you can't want to get a people thinking like, I don't go rated way, old virus is flat, blah blah blah. And I come up with something that science is telling us and try to make sense of it. Does this make sense to you? And then then

make them make them think about that for a minute. That kind of that makes sense, you know, because some science guy in a lab coat that knows pseudo science that can do this math that you don't know anything about that as the other just because it's you say so, all right, doesn't Yeah, yeah, that doesn't make sense to me. With some of the stuff that they're trying to teach us. I'm trying to think of anything else that that groves. But now river is a big one. That's a huge river,

huge one. Yeah, it's six thousand, six and fifty swometers long, and yet it flows south, you know, and I think in a thousand miles stretch it only drops a foot in one of the thousand mile stretches, So how is that possible? On the curb there that's right, yeah, water, I always find level plane. They call it a plane because it goes over the plane of the ear. And and another thing, face

of the Earth. How many times is that they the face of the Earth, the Bible of Chocolate, the face through the Earth's like they got to put in the face of the earth all the time. And then you look in geometry, you know, and this blew me away after I seen it with Pastor Denotle, that the face and geometry flat serface. What I thought that was really really neat. So the face of the whole earth, the face of the whole earth, makes more sense more indeed, And it's been

it's great. I can't believe in lac Bound the podcast which began to talking to you. Uh it's six monthy the finding your podcast. Yeah, you've sent me so much great information too. And I'm so glad you made the now River point because much of that river is actually in the southern hemisphere, which according to the Globe, that means it's not only is it flowing north, it's flowing up hill. Right. Yeah, yeah, that's the thing,

and like, how is that possible? It doesn't make any been Well, one more thing, I'm going to mention before you go, because you had emailed again. We've been emailing for quite some time. You. I think you were part of a march for children back in September thirtieth. Did you ever Were you a part of that or is there any follow up to that now? I actually wasn't. I didn't know. I didn't see very day. They didn't really cover that, did they very much? In the

stuff. I know there was a big march, and I know there was a lot of people went in all the big cities. My little city don't really do much at all, Like I'll probably be the only one out there side every one point and laughing at me kind of thing. But uh, but yeah, but that whole uh, that whole other protest though, you know, the big one with the truck was really awesome. Yeah. I

didn't get down there myself. I had a sister that lived in nott a while and that she was down there every day give me videos and stuff, and and that was really something to see everyone getting together on something and finally, uh, fighting for what they believe in and if we can do this on a global scale. Getting to go two ways were really really really bad. You know, they got all the power in the world. Ye fight or flight? Right, Yeah, that's just it. Man, What do

we do guys? And that's another thing. Ain't like how can that? Little guys like Now, that's another thing. People did much rather throw everything on the way side. We're just little people and you know what, what what can we really do about it? You know we may not be able to physically fight, but to me, knowledge is power. Man power right on sword right, a sword you can it cuts like a knife. And

the word actual word is in the word sword. Words. Uh, you know, it can be used as a positive weapon, you know, spread the word. And and again, if we're really going to make progress as much as you're able to where you can, it's going to take people getting out of their comfort zone and saying things that they have conviction. And it once again, I always go back to Pastor Odel and the conviction. He had to bring that up in his church, knowing very well that you know,

he didn't know what to expect. But look where he is today. If you stand tall in your conviction, you're normally rewarded and while you may endure some tough times, I mean, look where he is today. He's a well known name in our community and outside of the community, because he you know, he stands tall in his conviction and he doesn't worry about what other people think. This is what he believes, and this is how he

believes God's word is interpreted, and he's going to share it. And if you don't believe him, well, you know, you know, that's just you know, he's not like Pastor Locke was where he says, well, if you believe that, get out of my church. He just says, hey, yeah it was. He just says, hey, I don't know

how he could call him a Bible denier. Meanwhile, ol had what forty two he had a lot of heard he had everything from the Bible, and and he was going through the Hebrew words, what the periment you know mean, and and everything else and then and for locked and call him a Bible deniers. He's what that didn't make sense to me. Yeah, it's uh, you know, it is what it is. And I was so glad that Pastor Odell took out that hour and forty minutes of actual teaching and separated

it from the rest, because that is a great time. Did a tremendous job. Absolutely, absolutely, man, there was so much thing I could, like I said, and we could probably talk for hours. Yeah, man, And we're about at the ninety minute mark in building the Old World, Yeah, found all those buildings from the Old World, the Tiger Terry Blood. There we go. We just had a quick kickup. And again I want to thank Shane for this last ninety minutes of information and content and

sharing his story. The stories are important to share because there's a lot of people out there who think there's very few people around not just the country or North America, but around the world who don't think like this, and there are tons that can assure you this. So again, Shane, I want to give you, you know, as much time as you like here at the end of the podcast to share your final thoughts with everyone. Thank you, Thank you well. I think the best thing I can say is what

I did is I didn't take your word grantly, George. I actually lucked it out in itself, and and that was exactly surprised when it's just like I guess, you know, I'm just being a score, right, just taking out of people's word for it and stuff like that, not looking for yourself and accept stuff that just doesn't resonate with you. But if you actually telling does something and you look it up and then you see it to be true, and then it's gonna hit you and and make a condiction even more

so. I guess that's the biggest thing is this. Don't take our word for it, please we research for yourself. Again, I'm gonna point everybody to that loss history of Ladder. Check that out with our because they're lying to us about everything. Uh, they're lying to us about our history as well. So you know, all those buildings, you know, they they were not you know, built within a couple of years. They were not you know, with all that precision and everything from horse and buggy to no

power tools at that time, you know guarantee they were founded. So that was another rabbit hole. I think we could have touched time and stuff. But yeah, check out the history of Flatter And that's what really helped me open my eyes as well. You know, it's all real, man,

God, it's real, it's real. He's closer than we think. When I found out about his creation, how he put the firmament, the dome, separated the water from water, and what really got me is that he did not make the sun, the moon and the start until the fourth day. A science man says that sun came first, The Sun came first, and then the earth came out of the sun. God says the earth came first and the sun. The movie stary did not get created until the fourth

day. So who we're going to believe? You know, you're going to believe that the man who is knowing to be a liar? Or are you going to trust God's word? We know is the truth? You know, Just just don't stop searching, keep looking for yourself. I'm finding that there's just more and more the more you find out, the more there is to no the more the more there is to learn about everything. And please, uh, you know, if you feel your conviction, please you know,

tell tell people. People aren't going to know unless you tell them. And we're meant to kind of be persecuted, you know. In the Bible says that we're going to be laughing golf that and made you know, like we're crazy, and uh, but the more we understand, we know we're not created, we really do. And but that's just the way the world is today. So yeah, so don't be afraid get out there, and don't

be afraid to uh, to teach the truth and stuff. Because Uh, I talked to a lot of people who I know who listened to you and stuff. I think some listening, uh, they'll list continue just to I think to be entertained. I think for the most part some of them. But if you actually take the time to look into yourself and have them look into it for themselves, you need to price the the finding is that you'll

that you'll get man, really well said, that's the best thing. I can no go ahead, finish up, sorry, lest I can think, yeah, I got it. I think that's the best I can say. I'm sure there's a lot of other things that you say, but but but yeah, that's all I can. Just just research it, man, look into you for yourself. Well done. And by the way, there's with zoom sometimes in the internet and with the storms going on, folks, there's

always a little bit of legs. So we're not intentionally stepping on each each other's toes. There's just a little bit of leg But one of the great points you made as we closed out today was again if you look at the official narrative, if the Earth is about four point five billion years old, the sun is four point six, which, like you said, well, you know what you said so eloquently is the exact reverse of what we are told in the Bible. They're very adamant about the sun came first and it

existed a long time before earth. So who do you trust? Do you trust God or do you trust man? Who is the same guy who just look over the last back to for the beginning of time? It's been all lives and deceit. There's so many notes that I have. I'm going to make sure that I put David Weiss's apps link in the show notes. If you do download it, please remember to use the code fe files. It keeps us in the top ten and makes people curious and they look for a

podcast. Obviously, I don't get any financial gain from it. From that massive two ninety nine that Dave makes the Lost History of Flat Earth, don't forget that is on our Rumble channel, which already has over one hundred thousand views. I'll put that link in there. I'll find the picture of the

rodent on Mars, the stories and everything. This was a really great episode with lots of information, and man, I really appreciate your time and your friendship and sending the emails, continuing to help each other learn and thank you for taking the time to you know, share your story with the listeners, and thank you for taking your time to reach out to me and being a

personable guy. I just can't believe that community is absolutely amazing. Like I said, I feel like I know all all you guys, like you're my best friend. So I'm letting them do everything, and I really appreciate the

time to get other people's perspective and blot out there. Yeah, and a big shout out for you waking people up and having what like ten or twelve people and hopefully all the people that you gave shout outs to if you're listening to this podcas cast, shout out to you, and hopefully you have the same conviction and motivations as Shane does and share that knowledge with others, because

that's how we really move forward is with knowledge. And maybe one day we can make NASA do a massive refund program to us for their deceit, right, a taxpayer refund the luckily that one yeah, right, that'll happen. But anyway, man, thank you, God bless you. Stay safe in this weather, and again we'll talk to you again. Soon and for all

the listeners, thanks for your continued support. The email address again it is the Flatterthfiles at gmail dot com, where you can give us a call on our studio line three zero two nine nine zero four two seven seven, or leave us a message on the website. There's a thousand ways to communicate with, not just myself, but others in the community. For Shane, I'm George. God bless you all. Keep your head on a swivel, and until we meet again, my friends, we will see it. I know

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