Episode 129: Flat Earth Conversation with Tim

The following present is Del Marvis Studios Production. Welcome back to you with seekers from around the world. It's time for another edition of the Flat Earth Files. Welcome to a new year. We have a great guest standing it will be joining us in just a moment before we kick things off. Just a couple of quick reminders, questions, comments, concerns, please reach out to us or you'd like to join the show like Tim is today, reach out to us at the flat earth Files at gmail dot com. Again, it's

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kick things off. Go ahead and introduce yourself to the audience. Well, my name is Stithy Bliss. I you know, I'm I don't know, I'm pretty much started this whole journey in and out. You know, I never really fully was in on my you know, journey to this, you know, the biblical cosmology until just recently where I started listening to this podcast. And man, there has been so many waves of like truth coming at

me that it's it's almost overwhelming. I really don't even know all the time where to begin with a lot of the information that is given, you know, And man, it's been amazing. Uh. Usually it actually started when I was it was like twenty sixteen. Well, anyways, I live on

Wisconsin. You know, it's kind of a state where, you know, a lot a lot goes on around Wisconsin, especially when it comes to the like weird things happening, you know, in regards to Yeah, I mean kind of like that what's his name, Kyle uh written written house, Yeah, what weird situation. Yeah, you know, it's funny. I just did a podcast two weeks ago on my other podcast, The Fact on Her about racing. We did a really deep dive on Racine, Wisconsin. It

seems like it's a hub of the nw O and it is interesting. There's a lot of things that go on Wisconsin that, again you look at Switzerland and Wisconsin, the states that you don't think twice about, but it goes to show that evil hides and even the most you know, the kindest of places from the outside right for real, you know, you wouldn't when you probably when you're outside Wisconsin, you think of Wisconsin as this, you know, like, oh, just the chief state. It's you know, the

chiese shads an around and nothing never really happens. It's a country's kind of the ieo. But there's a lot that actually does take place, you know. But you know, growing up in my younger years, you know, I grew up back and forth from Wisconsin to Illinois. I was born in Illinois, so you know, back and forth from Illinois, you know, the cities into the country and then you know, back and forth maybe two or three different times. We ended up finally just staying in Wisconsin and living

here. And then, you know, my mom has always been a very religious lady, and I wouldn't you know, say so much even religious as a believer in Christ and having a relationship with Christ more so. But she we started off in a Baptist church, you know, and ended up kind of just you know, falling away like you know, leaving the Baptist Church. I can't exactly tell you why we're so young, but I ended up now, we ended up going to this church called the Apostolic Christian Church.

And that's actually where my mom was healed of terminal thyroid cancer and by the laying on of hands and praying and spirit and stuff like that, and she was miraculously healed, you know. And that was really the beginning of me like, Okay, this this religion thing quote unquote, you know what is real? It there's something about this. God's gotta be real, you know, And that pretty much sparks the interest for the spiritual in my life,

you know. And uh, you know, I I like to get into a whole lot of different things later on in the in this episode that you know, in regards to spiritual things and the deception that comes through a lot

of this spiritual activity that's that's taking place in the world right now. You have the new age that's coming out, new age occult practices that are they're not new, you know, these are all old, ancient you know, ah, false deities that came to be because of you know, Sataney has his you know, ways of snaring people into doing idolatry and you know God pretty much, you know, you know, when you're stepping into something false because it's dead, it's dry, it does has no you know, actual

benefit for your life, and you end up falling into addurn out sin, idolatry, you know, all kinds of different sins like idolatry and uh, you know, even child sacrifice. I mean, how many times did Israel fall into the you know, you know, sending their children through the fire to Muluk. You know, it's unreal. Just I can't even fathom sacrificing my child. I got five kids, you know, and I couldn't imagine giving my kids over because some deity says that I should sacrifice. That's crazy.

Yep. Yeah, well, I mean, like I was saying, you have, you have everything, you know, the whole Satanic rituals, but is currency in the spirit realm, you know, in a manner of speaking. That's right. So what better way for them to anger God than to you know, murder an innocent life like you know, and they literally have now in these abortion clinics where they give you an option to do in

a ritual manner. I'm like, what they had the link actually show you because I literally just was looking at it, just saved it so that you can see what I'm actually talking about. People can you know, look it up with out And while you mentioned that, I think that also plays a large part and the reason why these elitists lived such a long age because they do use the the stem cells and things from any type of things to extend

their life. For people who are familiar with sports, Peyton Manny's career was done, completely done because of a neck injury. I believe he went off to Germany to some random doctor. He had this type of you know, gene therapy, stem cell things done. He came back and he was miraculously able to play again. And these are the things again that that really that there's a fine line between right medicine with helping people and taking things from one

life to enhance another. Like that's really a morality issue in my mind for sure. I mean it's a form of sacrifice in my eyes, Like as we're taking, like you just said, we're taking from you know, an innocent life form, like the whole adrenalin chrome deal, like what it They're using this as a drug to get some kind of high I don't know what it does. They'll tell you this much right now, you know, from what I've heard, it's they use you know, fear tactics to scare these

children and harvest people like, are you are you kidding me? Right now? This is insanity. This, This is a prime example of what they would what they would do, you know, in ancient times. You know, I actually think that Nepheline probably came up with this, if I'm not mistaken, you know, throughout like a long history of you know, teaching what in why the things of the spirit, you know, because they came

from the realm of existence that we don't understand. And when we start tapping into these things, when we start tapping into these things, we're we're stepping

into a territory where we're not supposed to be. You know, it's abhorrent to God for us to be dabbling in things of the spirit without his say so, so when we go it's kind of like you know, tapping into you know, we're tapping into a realm where of the spirit, where you know, we utilize things that aren't of God to reach the things that are of God, you know, And because of that, I feel like That's where it is the most abhorrent to God for us to like try to tap

into the spiritual without first consulting God about what and how we ought to do these things. That's why Christ came, if you ask me, I feel like Christ came not only obviously, he came to be a you know, a toonement for our for us to have a direct relationship because of the separation between us and God through our sins, you know. And uh, hence the reason why we're stuck here here on this you know, flat plane of

existence. You know, I'm saying, it's it's so weird to think that we've been so ingrained in our minds by you know, the imaginations of man. And you know, it's funny, is that I was just looking at a scripture it says casting down imaginations and every high thought that exalted itself above the knowledge of God. Hmm. Now let me think here, what imagination could we create that would you know, totally discredit God and make what God

said to be a fallacy? Right? Isn't that insane? It's it's completely insane. And and and again it speaks to the effort that they put in to even many people who are deep into the truth community, who have been involved in the truth community for decades. How even with some of them, it's still a stigmatism and if you bring it up, it illegitimizes you as a truther because you actually believe in flat Earth. And all the time I gave links to this person, like I think of Mark Passio, I think

is that his name, Mark Passio. He used to be like a in the Satanic Church. Now he's a Christian and he recently did a YouTube thing on how flatter Earth is a syop? And I question people when they say that how can flat earth be a syop? When there have been books written on it, whether it's you know, ol Robatham I think his name was, and William Carpenter one hundred and fifty years ago talking about flat Earth.

It's it's simply not not a syop. If anything's a syop. For something to be a syop, you have to put a lot decades and years of work in it. And I've shown on many a case, whether it be in television or Disney. Everybody read Fritz Springmeer's Bloodlines of the Luminati Part three. It's a picture of Walt Disney on the front he was involved with who Warner Von Brown. A listener emailed me today the Sword and the Stone Disney

movie from nineteen sixty three. Watch from the fifty first minute to the say the fifty fifth minute. That's it, just four minutes of your time. Watch that and realize how much effort when you're five years old, you're six years old, and you watch this movie and how it is psychologically ingrained into

your mind. And all these people are connected to the people who work for what they call like Bob Dylan called the big Guy, and that is Loosim yep, right, And you know, on that topic of you know, the Disney deal, we were we were just watching the ladin the other day. I don't know just she she added on My fiance headed on that TV.

You know, you're watching it, and it's like he's in you know, she's in that little area where she's got all her trinkets, you know, and then and then her father comes through with his trident and then like shoots the globe and the globe explodes. I'm like, I'm looking over it, like no way, I'm telling you they put it in everything. He was right and by the way, I should shout out to Jeremy. He sent me that email saying, hey, you got to check out the Sword

in the Stone. Yeah, just in the four minutes, there's like so much symbology. It was the one eyed symbolism cast it. Yeah, the always talk about casting spells, the word terra firm or the globes. And then the other thing, which was really interesting. It showed the flat earth,

but it didn't show an ice wald. It showed a ship going off the edge and falling off, right, Because that all ties back to what fourteen ninety two, which was on the globe in this movie, and that leads to who was the guy who discovered the New World and proved that the Earth wasn't flat according to our history books Tim back at Old talenteen ninety two. Christopher Columbus, right, Columbus, Yeah, yeah, Christopher Columbus.

Right. And if you used jamatria where one is A, two is B three C four's d c C, that's you're thirty three right there, which goes to say the whole Columbus story was probably just a work done in support of uh, you know of this the biggest sigh up in the history of our world. Yeah, yeah, and you know, just to touch on a little something kind of like you know, with the numerology deal the sixty six books of the Bible, and there are books that are removed. That's

probably for that purpose. And I'm not trying to point the finger at the Bible and say that it of course not, of course not. But there there's a bit of speculation to be add when it comes to the numerology of it all. Why would we have sixty six books in the Bible? That that blew my mind, you know, thinking that is because you know, we have what is that six elevens with which one the sixty six books?

Six elevens? Of course, yeah, strange, yep, yep. And again we're not questioning, uh, you know, the message from God to the authors of the books. Man was the one who put it together, right, King James. King James, if I remember correctly, was also you know, I don't like to use the word friends or buddies or but Francis Bacon. And of course Francis Bacon was the guy who was really what

did the writings of Shakespeare. Shakespeare was just a pseudonym that Francis Bacon wrote under right, And of course Shakespeare is the one who supposedly said, you know, all the world is a stage. So you're right, that's so good. Yeah, it's just sandity what's going on in the world right now, and then it's so crazy, you know, I have so many different notes that I don't even really know where to start. Do you want to start? Because you had mentioned earlier that your mom was healed in the you

said the Apostolic Christian Church. Yeah, it was. It was the Apostolic Christian Church, but then leadership was switched over because of certain things that took place, and then a new pastor came in into took the you know, leadership role of the church, and he's the head pastor now there, and

it's now turned costal church, which I mean Ampostolic and not Costal. They're pretty pretty close, you know, in hand in hand really, and I personally, you know, I don't think it's necessary to even have denominations. I would go to a non denominational church as long as the Holy Spirit was there, I don't care, you know, So personally, you know, it's kind of like this whole the whole earth thing. It's it's awesome, you know, it is really a great thing. But if it wasn't leading

people to God, what good does it do. It's just another thing to, you know, for us to talk about, and another thing to point the finger at the government and say, you guys are lying to us again, right, you're lying to me again, you know. And I already don't trust the government. I spend that way majority of my life, you know, I think ever since nine to eleven really was when I stopped trusting

our government because it was all fishy from the start. You know. I can't say that I knew it right away, but when I was sitting in that classroom in my math flat, when I first saw the whole nine to eleven thing take place, I was like, how is this happening in you know, our country right now? This is just doesn't make sense. We have so much to protect our country in so many different ways. How is

this happening? You know? And later on in my life, I'd slowly start to find out about the whole Uh, they're my bombs placed in the building. And now you know, it wasn't even actually anyone in the planes supposedly. I don't know you know all about it, but I know that it's that It's definitely an inside job. There's no way around that, you

know for sure. Yeah, yeah, And I think that was one of the reasons that I was willing to look at it, because you know, you sit down and think, well, you know, everything in our history books are a lie. So are they lying about everything except spinning and hurling? And well, when the stars are just like right there, then I kind of I grasp and then I realized, well and I really fell for this for the first you know, almost fifty years of my life. And

it's a control mechanism. It's a fear mechanism because you know, they tell you at any minute you could be wiped out from an asteroid. And you know, of course it justifies NASA, which is really right, just a black ops money pit that they're able to send money to other things. That again, if you have everything, if you're at the top of the food chain, pardon me, and you have all the money and power that one could have, what's the other thing there? They they want to be God

and they want to live forever. So that's really you look at the Cornells and you look at some of these other leading universities that are working on these type of programs. That's exactly they're getting paid. Well, they're getting these huge grants from NASA, the Rockefeller Foundation, the UH. I forget what the other ones are, but that that's why on my other podcast I talk

so often about these uh. I'm using air quotes here for the listeners philanthropy because the ones at the top, you're Bill and Melinda Gates Foundations, the Carnegie Foundations, they most of them are around simply to fund their you know, evil plans and their work for Satan one hundred percent right absolutely. You know. Another topic on that, you know is I've been just studying into generational curses and you know, the power in the Tongue, and it's actually

on there's a book about it. It's from Alexander mcganni. I really, I really recommend this book because it pretty much does highlight a whole lot that has to do with generational curses, and not just generational curses, but the curses that are placed on your life by speaking things over your life. Now, can consider how much they utilize that ability to curse your life by telling you that you're this little thing, you're you're a little insignificant thing and you

should just fall in line because everyone else is doing the same thing. And you know, this is a curse. They're speaking this curse over your life right now. They're telling you that, and it's up to you, you know, to proclaim that that you can break this curse through the power of Christ, you know, through the blood of Christ. And I honestly truly believe that. You know, consider the fact that a lot of kids who you know be dealt with abuse in their life, and even so much that

didn't really deal with a whole lot of abuse. You know, your parents tell you that, you know, things like even we as parents, we could tell our kids. You know, you do it because they told you so, or you know you'll never amount to nothing. Some some parents you

know, would say things like that that are just horrible. And then the kids, you know, you put a curse on them, or you tell them they're dumb, You tell them, you know that they're ignorant and they need to just get it together and this and that, and you're speaking curses over your children's life, you know, which can very well end up, you know, affecting their life throughout the process, you know, into their

adulthood. Thinking that you know, you'll never amount to anything. You'll never you know, overcome things in your life or even you know, if you get bad grades in your school. You know, man, it's just it's it's a ridiculous thing that we're all kind of guilty of it in the manner of speaking with say, going as far as telling your children the'll liver a mouth to nothing. But you know, it's easy for you to say things you know out of and then not knowing it's going to resonate with them for

the rest of their life. I mean, my dad, you know my dad. I love my dad. He's awesome, but he was a pretty bad alcoholic and he used to say a lot of harsh things to us. And then growing up, you can do one of two things, do everything you can to stop that pattern or fall in line with it, and just believe what they tell you. So that goes hand in hand with this lie that we're a big ball floating through space spinning at something one thousand miles an

hour. Ye're no, I'm sorry. What about the law of the tripuple force? You know that blows my mind that we never even consider that into the equation. And then they say, oh, you're not spending fast enough something thousand miles an hour. I don't care how big the ball is. You're spinning at thousands of miles an hour, you're gonna eye off the ball, including all the water that's atted to it, supposedly. You know.

That's frustrating to me. And what a curse. You know, convinced the whole world that where this big ball floating through space sounds pretty fishy to me. It's a lot of deception, and that is really, you know, Satan's greatest tool, because he can't create anything, but he can deceive. And that's how he has been again from his eyes, that's how he's been so successful to lead people away from God. And once again, Helio centrism

is a way to lead people away from God. And you know, when I first started doing this podcast, you know, people would always say, well, it's not a salvation issue. But the longer I've been doing this for you know, fifty four weeks now, and I've gotten hundreds of emails saying that because you know, biblical cosmology has brought them back to God. So how is it not a salvation issue? Getting back to what your deception

and everything? I got to email today from William I'm not going to use his last name, but he had mentioned he grew up in the building industry like I did. I was a carpenter and masonry, laying bricks of blocks. Folks, don't take that little snippet and George, it's a free race. But we use plumb bobs on the corners, you know, when we're laying bricks. You know that we use that for a corner to make sure that that corner is perfect, because if your corners are not perfectly level and

square, your wall is going to be a hot mess. Anybody who's laid block brick before knows that. So let me ask you this. If you're in Alaska and you drop a plumbbob, right, it's the string and it's got the heavy bob on it, so it's perfectly straight up and down. Oh, you know that bob is going straight down towards the ground. Where if you're in Antarctica or just say the southern tip of Argentina and you drop that plumbbob, is that is that plumbbob going out to outer space? Towards

outer space? Ors are going towards the ground right right with the wall be upside down and just all of these things, and it really goes to its double edged sword that number one, this is a deception that obviously you don't have to be a flat earther to get to the pearly gates, right, But at the same time, there are people out there who maybe could Right.

How many times in a life are there maybe one or two small signs or subtle things that could have just grabbed people's attention and led them back towards God. That's the way I do think this is an important issue that we should address. And while it does come with its stigmatisms and it's you know, mockery and everything else, I think, like, you know, we say you got to put on the armor of God and stand on your conviction

and say this is what I believe absolutely. You know, that's kind of funny that, you know, you mentioned that, you know, the armor of God thing. I actually had some notes taken that I wanted to go off. All right, let's go on that topic, the armor of God. It's kind of funny, you know. Let me see where I'm at

here. I used to put on we used to I learned about the armor of God back when I was like a little kid, you know, and come to find out that, you know, Paul the Apostle, when he was writing about the armor of God, he was actually taking from the book of Isaiah, and Isaiah fifty nine seventeen he says, helmet of salvation, we put on an out wait, no no sorry, for he put on

righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head. And he put on the garment of the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad the zeal as a cloak. I really think that he was talking about, you know, putting on the hour of God, and in some way, shape or form, you know, I don't know if he, you know, came up with this. I probably divine intervention obviously, but also the you know, preparation of the Gospel of Peace to feet shot with the

preparation of the Gospel of peace. There was another one from in Isaiah where it says that their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shit innocent blood. Their thoughts are our thoughts of iniquity, wasting and destruction are in their paths. The way of peace they know not, and there is

no judgment in their goings. They have made them crooked paths. Who's whoever go with their inn shall not know peace and in hand with the you know, understanding the walking in peace, in humility, humility and peace they go hand in hand if you're capable, because being prideful, you know, when we're prideful, you walk into destruction. You know, you literally, what does the scripture say it? I actually think I have it around here too.

Maybe not, maybe not? Yeah, right here Proverbs sixteen, eighteen and nineteen pride go with before destruction, and an auti spirit before a fall. Better it is to be of a humble spirit with the low lely, than to divide the spoil with the proud. And it does kind of remind me of you know, the fallen angels that gave birth to you know, the nephilum, how tall and huge they are, that literally ate up the inhabitants of the earth, and hence the reason why the flood had to take

place. It's a wild topic to get onto. And actually the nephilm are what led me into the understanding of the flat earth, because you know, that's one rabbit hole you go into and then all of a sudden, this one pops up because because he went down that one. So I honestly, they all kind of converge in some way, shape or form to lead to God. They all all of these weren't like little wormholes or rabbit holes we

go down. They lead to God one way or the others. And if this is not a way for us to be led in into salvation, you know what other way it's These are the teachings of God. If it wasn't salventfic, then how are people being saved by the simple fact that they're knowledgeable now about biblical doctrine? Need it draws them closer? And to the scriptures. You know, I personally feel like the word God. Man, it's

so powerful. It has so many different avenues to grab you and pull you in to draw near onto God. And then He draws near unto you, just like the scriptures say what a beautiful thing? Yeah it is. And two things I wanted to touch on. You know, when you're talking about pride, there is you know, people are quick when things are going well, maybe you get a promotion at your job, or you get a new

home. We tend to patter ourselves on the back. But when things don't go so well for us, maybe we lose our job or you know, maybe we have a relationship that goes sour. We blame God, right, we don't blame ourselves. So and that's a lot of people out there are maybe atheists. They say, how could God let this happen? And that I was reminded of a story. Right. There was a flood, I think it was Katrina in two thousand and six, and there was a guy

streaded on his roof and he said he wasn't leaving. A boat came up. He said, no, I'm just gonna pray. I'm not leaving. Then a helicopter shows up. He's like, no, I'm not leaving, and you know, he ends up drowning and he's standing before God and he said, God, why didn't you help me? I was praying for you. Why did I die? And He's like, what do you mean? I sent a boat, I sell a helicopter? What else did you want

me to do? Right? So we need to be, you know, really keep our eyes open for because God does interact on our life on a daily basis, and you have to really keep your eyes open. And if you have listen, if you have constant communication with God, you're gonna have a better chance of listening to the things that he is showing you. Would you agree with that? Absolutely? Yeah, God he shows himself their three circumstances a lot, and every oh man, my life has been a testament

to that. You know. I actually tell in one of my testimonies on my on my podcast about you know, where I was going through a really rough time. My ex wife had left me, and mental turmoil was just a huge thing in my life at that point in time, and I actually went through a whole lot of suicidal thoughts and that's where I ended up getting

into a lot of drug addiction and alcoholism. And so I'm at my oh construction job, you know, and I ended up walking out the job because my I was dating this girl and I really shouldn't have been dating anybody at the time because I was in no condition mentally or anything to maintain a relationship at the time. So and then so I walk off my job, tell my boss I just can't do this anymore. I end up getting fired for

it. And so I'm walking down the road and we're you know how when you're doing construction jobs, you're going from place to place, and I really was totally unaware of where I was at. I just I didn't care. You know, my life was in shambles, didn't I didn't care about none of that. So I just got out of my phone. You know, I probably had like fifteen percent battery power or something left on my phone. And I'm trying to get old of everybody I can try to get me out

of there. And you know, I have nothing but these thoughts of just you know, ending my life because I was so done with everything. My life was just in shambles. I could never see I could rarely see my kids, but I'm like every other weekend than me in that. You know, we go from seeing your kids regularly to seeing your kids only like once every other week, and it does something to you and that that destroys you on the inside. And and so I'm walking down the road and I get

old my brother and I start talking to him. I'm telling him, you know, I literally just laid it out to him that I was ready to end it. And you know, he's like, dude, just stay on the phone with me. We'll talk about this and just go up. You know, we went on, and I just nothing could seem to make me feel better. You know, and he puts his he puts his wife out of the phone with me, and I start talking to him while he goes and gets you know, his home phone and tries to get a hold on

my and so he gets he finally gets hold of my mom. And you know, I'm walking so long, literally down the road on my feet are killing me and I didn't even care, you know. And I as I'm walking down the road, long story short, you know, I start things start to look really familiar, you know. And as I'm going, I get to this barn where there's a curve in the road to the left, and then there's a barn right there, and then there's another curve it's kind

of like a S shaped zig zag or whatever. And then there's a big church with a steeple here that's abandoned. And then as you go past all that down the road. Oh man, I get choked up thinking about this because it's such a powerful thing that happened. And I immediately knew where I was, and you know this I kept kept well, so I started pretty much almost running, you know, to where it was. Where was my old church, the old church where I first received the Holy Spirit and was

baptized and everything, and it was abandoned. It was empty, you know, because they had moved churches. But it was like God's way of saying, you know, I am with you. You just need to, you know, get yourself right, you know, with me. And so I'm sitting in front of the church and my phone is dying, you know, it's about to die, and I get a hold of my mom. I call her up because she, uh, you know, she just talked a

bitch about everything. And I finally get a hold of her, and uh, She's like trying to get everybody she can to figure out where I'm at. And I'm like, you'll never believe where I am now and uh and then she's like where are you trying to get somebody to come get you where. I'm like, I'm at the old church where you were healed and where we all received the Holy Spirit. And she's like wow, you know,

and pretty much laid it out. It was like, you know, she knew, she knew what I was planning, because my brother he wasn't gonna hold it off, you know, because my family loves me, you know, and I know that much. But it's like it's hard to see those things when you're stuck in a place so dark in your mind and like your life is in shambles. And then you know, I wasn't even really pointing the finger at God saying how could you let me things be like this?

But at the same time, I did feel God was far front of me, you know, until that moment right there, and then guess you know, like you'll never guess who it was that shows up. There was two people that showed up that my mom got hold of the only people who come get me, and that was my pastor, Pastor Hermann, and my hit

the assistant pastor at the time, which was Brother Escardo. And these two people are like prominent people of men in my of God in my life, two men of God in my life that were like really influential to me. And I, you know, when they showed up, man, it was just like waves of almost relief. But that went away really quick when I found out they called the They called the police, because you know, they can't not call the police. They're obligated to do that when you know,

which is understandable. So one's threatening to commit suicide and things like that, and I totally lied told him, I was fine, and that was not you know, but I just didn't want to go to you know, get locked up at the time. And yeah, so that was one of the biggest ways that God really showed me he's you know with us. You know,

there's another one as well, you know. Uh, I didn't talk about this on my podcast, but you know, not yet anyway, But there was another scenario, and it was just this year when I came back to my faith and going strong for God. Man, my I was just on fire after going back and getting into it again and studying scripture like I've never done it before. We're on our trip to a vacation to Utah with me and my fiance and our kids, and uh we get to the cabins

in the mountains where we were going to be staying. It was like the night after we stayed over at your mom's house. And we get get up into the mountains and it is just insane, packed with snow, like a snowstorm up in the mountains was insane. The snow is taller than our heads. I'm talking, I'm six foot, so it's way up there. And

uh so we get up there. It was a battle just getting to the cabin where we rented everything out, and so we get up there and it was about nightfall, and I'm doing my devotional for the day because I do him on my Conversion Bible AFP recommended by the way, it's cool and uh so, because devotional life is is everything. He should really be devoted to God if you're pursuing. But anyways, I've reading through my devotional. I get through it and it stops and songs where because you know, it puts

you right where you're at in the Bible. After you do your devotional, puts your right in Psalms if you're insults, it ends not, which is weird because I never really ever read Saws thoroughly. So I just continue reading. You know something's telling me just keep reading, or you read something really

cool. And then all of a sudden, I get to this passage where it says if I say surely the darkness shall cover me, even the night shall be light about me, And all of the lights in the cabin went out like that wow immediately, and all I could see was the light from my phone, and I'm like chills ran through my whole body. And then I look over at everybody in the dark and then I start reading it out loud, you know, if I say, sugar with the darkness shall cover

me, even the night shall be light about me. And then the lights come back on and they all look over at me and they're like, all right, you need to chill with that. They're freaked out, you know, They're like, what's going on? And I couldn't believe that's what happened, you know, and you can't make this up? And it was insane, Like wow, that was another way, more of a scary way. You got to let you know, you know is there, but you know, it's just one of those scenarios. Yeah, that's a great app.

I have it on my phone as well, and I'll leave that link in the show notes too for people to check out the U version connect. I think it's called Yeah, really good, really good man. I kind of wanted to dive into some of this, the Book of Enoch Man, Yeah, those do go ahead, Oh bro, I've been I've been studying the Book Enoch pretty avid the as of recently. Before I do, let me ask you this, because I get this question all the time, which version

do you have? Do you have? Like? Is it all all three chapters or all three books, I should say, is it a certain version or well, it's I have one that's the hardcover, And then I was listening to and scrolling through on because you can download it. Yeah, you can download it on a dull play app or whatever you And so I'm pretty much with listening to the Book of Secrets, which is the second one,

if I'm not mistaken, and then the first one. We bought the hardcover because we're like, hey, we got to dive into this because I was listening to the podcast and it was just mind blowing all the things that were taking place. So in the Book of Enoch and I actually have a few different parts that I kind of put some sticky notes in here to look,

you know, it's just phenomenal. I'll read off a couple of areas where one thing that I noticed and I kind of wanted to, you know, talk about how it might actually corroborate with a lot of you know, how it says in the Bible as in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the coming of the Son of Matt Well, it says right here, then, said the Most High, the Holy and Great Ones bake and sent Uriel to the son of Lamec, and said to him, go to Noah and tell him in my name, hide thyself and reveal to him the

end that is approaching, that the whole earth will be destroyed, and the delusion is about to come on the whole earth and will destroy all that is on it. And it reminds me of the Scripture when of when Christ is talking about when the review Phraates is when it dries up and Jerusalem is encompassed by by armies, right, how it tells them to flee into the mountains and hide themselves. You know, it kind of somewhat alludes to that in a way, shape or form, because of you know, prophecy l it

works. You know, sometimes it's just one thing's got to correlate to another, and that's just a small thing. You know, there are other things

I wanted to mention. Was you know, as as I read on, I was looking and it says that the watchers they ask Enoch to write a petition and you know, to speak before the Lord, and he's he wrote, writes up the petition for the uh Watchers, and it says, I get to find where I'm at exactly Enoch, thou'scribal righteousness, go declare to the watches of heaven who have left their high heaven the holy eternal place, that have defiled themselves with women, and have done as the children of earth

do, and have taken unto themselves wives. You have brought great destruction on the earth, and you shall have no peace nor forgiveness of sins. And inasmuch as they delight themselves and their children the murder of their beloved ones, shall they see, and over the destruction of their children shall they lament, and shall make supplication onto eternity. But mercy and peace shall you not obtain. And the part where it gets to the petition is h And Enoch went

and said, as Azl, thou shalt have no peace. A severe sentence has gone forth against THEE to put THEE in bonds, And thou shalt not have toleration or request granted to THEE because of the unrighteousness which thou hast taught, because of all the works of godlessness and unrighteousness and sin which thou hast shown men. So it's funny, you know, with you know, the sorceries and all the other things that were taught were by the fallen angel.

We didn't just come up with these things, that's right. These were taught the fallen angels that you know, came in onto the daughters of men, and they bore children and they became my men, men of renowned giants. Well, I think it's it's rather odd that you still see to this day the sorcery you still see, you know, the cutting of Brits, the witchcraft that's taking place, I mean all the way down to you know, the child sacrificed garbage that we were talking about Earli. It's just insanity,

you know. And if this book or a here was not meant to be in the Bible, I must be a fool, because everything that I read from scripture and have studied, you know, up until now, it really alludes to it. There's also another book that I want to eventually study on and maybe come on a later podcast or something like that and discuss. But

it's the Book of Adam and Eve. And my fiance man, she's looking into this book and pretty much me and her, we were listening to the audio version of it, because there's an audiobook and mine's blong like blon straight up and because some of it is like why is this not in a Bible right now? You know, why are we not being taught these things? This could corroborate with so much other you know, things that you know are very organic in the Bible, Like there's no way you can't make this stuff

like it's insanity. So, uh, what I think is funny is that a lot of people think of the book you know, of einoch as heresy because the it talks about how the angels intercede for men, and I think what they think is that they're talking about a mediator, right, you know, Christ is the mediator. Problem that that is is that you know, angels might speak on our behalf, but that doesn't mean that they're a mediator for our sins. Right, we still have this division this you know part

this what is the great divide between us and God to our sin? Because of that, so if there was a mediator at that point in time, being the angels, then why is it we have to We would have have would have had to do sacrifices and thanks for the tolnement for our sin.

That's why we don't have to now, you know. And it just blows my mind that we would completely discredit the Book of Enoch, even though the Bible itself, in the Book of Jude, mentions Enoch, and word for word says a verse from Enoch right here, you know, and it talks about, you know, and he comes with ten thousand of this holy ones

to execute you degiment on all. Well, that's just wild because writing the Book of Jude, it says the exact same thing, you know, about the angels who kept not their first state and estate meaning there's still a dual meaning here. They kept their not their first estate, which is their place in heaven, but they also lost their spiritual state as an everlasting being to

be here on the earth. And I also find a lot of different things in this book about them being shape shifters, you know, and also about how the giants, the giants are actually the evil spirits the demons. It doesn't mention that in the Bible, but it only mentions it here about how the fallen Angels' children that were slaughtered are the ones roaming on the earth possessing people, you know, And it says right here evil spirits. Okay,

let me just start from where the top is. It says, and now the giants who are produced from the spirits and flesh shall be called evil spirits upon the earth, and on the earth shall be their dwelling. Evil spirits have proceeded from their bodies, because they are born from men, and from the Holy Watchers is their beginning and primal origin. They shall be evil spirits on earth, and evil spirits shall they be called, as for the spirits

of heaven. In heaven shall be their dwelling. But as for the spirits of the earth, which were born upon the earth, on the earth shall be their dwelling. And the spirits of the giants afflict, oppressed, destroy, attack, do battle, and work destruction on the earth, and cause trouble. They take no food, but nevertheless hunger and thirst and cause offenses. And these spirits shall rise up against the children of men and against the

women, because they have proceeded from them. That's profound, indeed extremely He pointed out so many great things, And I'm so glad you brought up, Enoch. There's been so many times I've meant to bring this up on the podcast before, but it either slipped my mind or we diverted away from it. So if I remember correctly, the book of the Bible says Enoch lived to be three hundred and sixty five years and then he walked with God.

Basically, so we believe that he entered heaven. He was one of the you know, only I think was there one more person who entered heaven alive? Yeah? In the Book of Elijah, Yes, thanks well, I picking up in a in a chariot of fire. I'm not mistaken. WorldWind chariot fire one of the two. Yeah, s, Elijah is one of my favorites. It's a great book. Jeremiah. Jeremiah is a great book.

But here's what's funny. So Enoch lives three hundred and sixty five years and he was taken by God. Our calendar today is three hundred and sixty five days. However, if you remember, there's something called the Enoch calendar, which is this ancient calendar which is divided by four seasons of thirteen weeks. I think it's two months of thirty days, one months of thirty one

and basically it consisted of exactly three hundred and sixty four days. Yeah, and it was reportedly given to him from one of the angels, Uriel. Right. So and again it's it's more mockery. Do they add one more day just to mock him? Right, to just mess with calendar? Where we say they mess with time, they mess with the calendars. And here is you know, according to you know text. You know that this calendar that was given to us from the angels and they had to add one day

to it. Is that something that they do to kind of keep us away another thing they used to kind of separate us from God? Or do you think am I reading too much into that? I do not think you're reading too much into that, because you know, me and my fiance we were literally just going over this about that was it now the day before last night, and it is just insane, you know, because I wanted to touch on this. It's funny, you know. And where is it? Man?

And this is from the book of the Secrets of Enoch, right, which is the second one, if I'm not mistaken, Well, where am I here? It talks about probably two fear behind now okay? Right here? Okay? And this is from the second book. It could be a little bit missing something. I don't know, because a lot of these seem

to have a lot of different variations. But I'll just read on where it talks about the zodiac and in this in this actually kind of throws me off a bit, maybe might even be something wrong with it, but it says, where am I just a move okay, and I saw the ninth heaven, which is called in Hebrew kuchavim, where there are heavenly homes of the twelve signs of the zodiac. Odd if you ask me, because in the first book of Enoch it talks about I was west three hundred and sixty four

days. Yeah, I find it a little strange they mention, you know, the twelve signs of the zodiac being in this book and then in the other books it's a bit different. You know, can't remember exactly how it was I was going the word this, but anyways, yeah, I know

what you're getting at. And it is to just kind of add on to that that that number twelve and the residuals of twelve in the Bible are all over the place, with the twelve apostles and the twelve zodiacs, and then your one hundred and forty four thousand Israelites, on and on and on that they are that number twelve is big in the Bible. But yet It is interesting how just it goes from one book three hundred and sixty four days to the second book, which is the Slavonic Book of the Secrets of Enoch,

to talking about the twelve zodiac symbols. Right. And the funny thing is is I'm I'm listening to the podcast version actually have audio if you plead, yeah, go ahead, if I can anyway, if Joe, let me. But yeah, let's see, I gotta get to it right here, muted it. Here we go. Saw the eighth heaven, which is called in the Hebrew tongue lose a lot changer of the season of the wet and of the twelve constellations of the circle of the Firmament which are above the seventh

heaven. See. And I saw the n which is called in Hebrew kuchabo. Where are the heavenly homes of the twelve constellations of the circle of the firmament see, Because it totally plays different and it does turn out too once again he also mentions the circles of the firmament too, right, right, that which is odd. There's actually a part in here that talks about how the sun, moon and stars are moving. Yep, not and I gotta

find it. But it's really interesting and it totally alludes to the all flatter, you know, biblical cosmology deal, because just like the Bible states, you know about how it is not the it is not the earth that is moving, but the stars in the sky that they are moving. And better to know than the person who was taken up into the heavens, you know, is Enoch. And now let me see if I can find it real

quick. It's pretty interesting. It's funny because I, oh, man, it even talks about how Adam was made the first man on the sixth day, command my wisdom to create man from seven consistencies. One his flesh from the earth, two his blood from the dew, three his eyes from the sun or his bones from stone. Five, his intelligence from the swiftness of the angels and from cloud. Six his veangs and his hair from the grass of the earth. Seven is sold from my breath and from the wind.

That's awesome. And then it goes on to say, and I gave him seven natures to the flesh hearing, to the eyes for sight, to the soul, smell, the veins for touch, the blood for taste, the bones for endurance, and to the intelligence, sweetness, s sea enjoyment pretty amazing, you know, and not having that in the Bible, you don't really get a whole lot aside from He brought us up from the dust of the earth, you know, that's right, and there there's so much more

or here. Oh I think I might have found it. Well, maybe it's all right, and from the rocket, because I know I found it. And it's so funny because I was, you know, looking for this before and I finally found it and now it's gone. That's okay though, Yeah, for sure, I totally recommend anybody who you know, desires to look into these songs that really dig deep into the book of each this man.

There's so much to be learned from from these books. Not saying that you should discredit the Bible because they go of course, yeah, of course, you know, that's exactly my point. And I don't know, there's a lot of heresy aunters out there who like to say one thing, you know, all the Bible is the only one, it's the only living you know, yep, God be wored of God. But at the same time, then why is it that all of these other doctrine you know, are

so closely, you know, interwoven to what the Bible is stating. You know, I mean to me, this is more descriptive than anything I've written. Bible it is, and it talks about two of the things that really in many ministries gloss over how many times have you heard in your local church the story of Genesis six? How many times have you really heard the story about you know, the giants, the Nephilum right, and of course biblical

cosmology. Why don't we just you know, in all the days of our church, including me, uh, you know, prior to be you know, coming into flat earth, biblical cosmology, would you just gloss over the Tower of Babel and it was more about scattering people across the world to speak different languages when you really realize the evil agenda of this world, which is trying to overthrow God, which is something that has been going on since the

days of Nimrod, and in my opinion, continues today with with Nasa and those at the you know, on top of the food chain who work cannon and with Lucifer or in your cases that that are you know, these people that you know are are filled with evil. Did you say there were evil spirits or demons or deities, yea, evil spirits, Yeah, demons.

I really think they're you know, pretty much the same thing. There is a hierarchy of spirits, you know, evil spirits now and I'm sure that the watchers and the fallen angels are probably you know, are your head, you know, giving command to all the lower It's it's you know, it's funny because there's a person I wanted to bring up and he talks about kingdom

politics. His name's Everett Roath and uh, he's in alignment with Blad Subcheck and he's a they're in with the Deliverance Ministry and he's really really good in profound How do you spell his last name? Everett Everett growth r o E T h r o E T h okay, right, And he has a podcast on the LAD a episode on lad sub Checks where he's talking about exposing

the New Age. And it's really crazy because you know, you see, if you look between kind of read between the lines in scripture, you can really start to not this how we as you know, Christians, a lot of times we think we shouldn't be getting into politics because you know, our kingdom is coming, you know here. But what scripture really does state, is that Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. He wants us to try to make earth like Heaven here while

we're here. Yeah, hence the reason why he gives his Holy Spirit to us to dwell within us and work through us to make Earth more like Heaven. Yep. And spiritual warfare has taken place all over you know, you're since the day you were born. You are under attack spiritually, you know, for we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and against powers, and against the rulers of the darkness of this world, you know,

and and speing against spiritual wickedness in high places. And I truly believe that's high places of government and high places of the kingdom of darkness. Yeah, spiritual realm in other words. Yeah, but it's more than that too, because I mean, you said, from the moment you're born, well, when you're five minutes born, when you're five minutes old, the Synagogue of Satan is pumping, you know, these pharmaceuticals into your body to trying

to put these layers between you know, you and God. By the way, that's Samuel rump Sorry everet roath. Is that the guy who was a new Ager. Now he's come to Jesus and talks about gotcha all right, I found his channel. I've sub to him up with the Lincoln the show notes for people to check out. Right, he's really good. He talks

about how I just out dabble into it a little bit. He talks about how he's he came out of it into Christianity in like long story short, he had a discussion with someone about, you know, the same thing, and he actually was delivered when they convinced him that Christ was the only way truth in life. And you know, there's no way to get into heaven

besides him, and he was searching his whole life. He talks about how he spoke marijuana for the first time and it kind of woke him up to the spiritual realm and you know, trying to seek out our purpose and he ends up into doing yoga, all kinds of different you know, all kinds of different occult activities. And I was just jotted down a few different things.

And one of the first things he mentioned in his sermon about exposing the New Age was that sixty one percent of Christians follow at least one form of New Age. Oh sure, and yeah, I mean especially probably the zodiac thing. How many people go on and they talk about, oh, I'm you know, I'm a cancer, I'm a Leo or a libra or whatever. Then the you know, you're not realizing that you're literally yoking yourself with

you know, these deities, these false deities. And my issue with the zodiac thing is other than aside from the whole biblical thing, which is an obvious thing, is that by stating I am a libra, which I would be if I believe that, that means I'm an introvert and I'm you know this and that, and you're literally ascribing to this. So you're going to live your life according to how this zodiac sign tells you that you should be living. And my problem with that is is that I'm not a Libra.

I'm a child of God. That's how we ought to be viewing it, not like, oh, I'm a le liber or liro, leo, whatever, you know, Sagittarius, Capricorn, blah blah. You know, none of those things. You are none of those things. You know, we're we're you know, brought here by God and that is a lie that we've been told by the enemy. That's another powerful tool that the enemy uses,

that Lucifer uses as labels. Right, that there's three hundred and thirty million Americans and you're either Democrat or Republican, and they use you know, they use labels and they categorize us so that we fight amongst ourselves and we get away from the real issues, which is, you know, our salvation, our freedom, not answering demand, but answering to God. It's something you mentioned that I think about often, is the more comfortable we get in this

world, the more worldly become. So go back to the sixteen hundreds. The Puritans are getting to America. The winners are harsh people. It's not unusual for Dad to die during the winter. Like life was hard. And if you don't get off your behind and go out and get your food, you're not going down to King's Soups. You're not going down to Walmart to get your groceries. So if you're not getting off your butt at five o'clock in the morning to go fishing or to go hunting, you're not eating great,

right, you know. But at the same time, when you are, they were much healthier then. But listen to me back in the sixteen hundreds with the Puritans, like life revolved around religion, right that you did not dare eat a meal without saying your prayer first. But then fast forward, as they say, they boil the frog. We get more comfortable, We get televisions, we have nice sofas, we have temperature controls in our

house, now we have the internet. We become more worldly, worldly, and we become distant, disconnected from God and from religion because we've gotten so comfortable, which in turn makes us more worldly. What are your thoughts on that? Oh? Absolutely, What better way you know than to draw you away from God than to give you so much to distract you that you don't even consider God in your life. You don't even care about God because I'm so I'm so like in my niche right now, comfortable, you know.

And It's what's funny is that's kind of one of the ways that God he kind of woke me up with all of this, was that, you know, man, I would I would smoke marijuana just so that I could, you know, function. I wouldn't get out of bed without my baby cart cart and I would you know, hit that and I would, you know, it would make me feel No, I'm not caring in the world. And I just go about my day every day doing that. And drugs and alcohol are a huge thing, you know. I had gotten started getting into,

you know, doing psychedelics and things like that. And what better way, you know than to totally try to put your brain in a whole new world than to hump you full of a bunch of drugs. And I really feel like a you know, the pharma coke, what is it? Pharmacopeia farmakia, yeah, and pharmacia it's witch. Yeah, it's witchcrap and it's fineest you know, it's it's such a they do it in such a way that they just kind of slowly ease it in, you know what I'm saying.

It's kind of like the Python you know, the Python spirit. You don't know that you have a Python spirit until it is got its grip around you. Then the Python spirit is you know you have. It's a mixture spirit of depression, suicidal thoughts, anxiety, and a lot of people who are suffering with depression they take these medications thinking that's going to happen. It's really a band aid over the problem. That's like a band aid over a

bullet hole when the reality is you need surgery. You need you know what I mean, You need to have the Holy Spirit come in and cast these out, you know, because it's not by all of power that we are at all able to remove demons. And I was just listening to a podcast from Vlad Subcheck. He's one of my favorites along with Isaiah Saldivar, who I mentioned before we got on here, and that they woke my eyes up

to the realm of the demonics. Like, oh man, they opened my eyes to that so much because they pretty much pinpoint aspects and spiritual warfare that have taken place. You have the Python spirit lebiath than Jezebel's spirit, which is more of a principality. You have the spirit of bitterness, the word of bitterness, which generally is your strong man. Like if you have a spirit of rage, anger, wrath, hatred, malice, they all are a root cause is bitterness in your heart. And until you know you bind

the strong man in the house. In reality, the strong old is a military term, you know, well, I should say more of a warfare term. When they have a stronghold they've built stronghold in over your life. So now all they have to do, you know, is operate. And the strong man is the root or the captain of all of them in the matter of speaking, that are operating to, you know, take control and possess your life in a manner of speaking. And there are a lot of

different ways that you can learn. And I really do recommend that people while I'll look into you know, deliverance ministries. It's going to change your life and your perspective on spiritual warfare because and hot funny thing is this, you know, Gray block Us and all that deliverance ministry thing. And man, when I saw that or I heard the debate, I listened to it on your podcast because you you know, you posted it, and I was like, wow, man, how divisive it's just on real? How much this

stirs up the spirit of pride? Yeah, people who who hate the concept, why do you hate it so much? If you don't believe that, why are you so angry? You know? That was one of the things that I was like, Man, you know, if this isn't real, why are you getting so passionate about it? I really if you don't just if you disagree. We can have a conversation about something and disagree and agree to disagree. It doesn't have to be this huge ordneal where we're divisive and

no longer friends, like are you kidding? We We're Christians, We're not supposed to be dividing the body, right, And it had divided the church, you know, the congregation was divided. People were throwing microphones and it was very interesting though, if you look at the social media numbers, how

greg locks congregation dropped a lot and Pastor Odele's numbers the roof now. And I told Pastor Otell, just take that hour forty out from itself, disregard the other junk and reposted just as that one hundred minutes where you were actually for the most part allowed to preach your word, which I thought he did a good job. But again, it's so funny in retrospect when you think

about it. How if you bring up, well, maybe the Earth is flat and Antarctica is the and it holds the water in and you know crazy things like you know, water is level and water can't stick to a ball. Imagine how crazy that is. But if you bring up a little green men flying in spaceships. How that's perfectly normal. Right. That really goes to how programmed the people really are. Right. Oh man, that's so

true because and what I was thinking. This got me thinking, you know, on the topic of that the debate, I actually read a scripture that talks about how, you know, we are not supposed to be debated, you know, in scripture it actually stick. I can't remember exactly where it is. My beyance set me the uh scripture and I lost it, of course, But anyways, but uh, really good and it pretty much talks about how we're not to debate things of the scriptures and stuff like that and

not. I'm sure if you look forward enough you'd find it. But regardless, Uh, you got to understand that when when you take a position like Greg took and has, you have to understand that you yourself can be under attack. Just because you're in a prominent place in the Kingdom of God does not mean that you cannot fall victim to the attack of the enemy and then begin to operate in pride in your ego. And we need to let go

of our ego. We need to just stop operating under our ego and allow ourselves to be humble, allow ourselves to act in humility, because without humility, you might as well just throw all of this off the table. Because Christ, he himself, the Lord Almighty, came to this earth in humility. And who are we to act in any way, shape or form like we have some great place above God. You know, a servant is not greater than his master. They hated you, if they hated me, then

they'll hate you. So if the truth gets you hated like it did with Dean Odle, then who side are you operating on? You know, if you're operating in truth, you're gonna receive hatred. If you're operating in the lie, then you're going to follow the crowd and be the hater. You know, of course, and you know, the Bible talks about touring the end times what the fate of many Christians will face. And you have to be willing again go back full circle to the armor of God, and you

just you know, we are living. You know, if you kind of reflect on what's going on in the world and you kind of you know, peek into Daniel and revelations, and you know, you going back to Genesis six where it talks about how wicked the world was, and you think, man, was the world really more wicked then than today? When you know it does say that every thought, I'm not going to quote Genesis six that verse, but basically that every single thought was evil in a person's mind.

But you see that the type of people that are out there today, it's completely insane. I had something, Oh yeah, I wanted to mention this before I forget man, I get, and I want your thoughts on it. So I probably have gotten two hundred and fifty emails on the first two verses of Genesis one over the last year, and we had just a couple episodes ago. We had Chris On from Colorado Springs and he gave his insights

on it. It's really interesting to me how people can read just two verses and out of those two hundred and fifty emails, I probably have one hundred and fifty different thoughts on them. And I think it's important. What are your thoughts? How would you address folks on to if we're all sitting down there were there's fifty of us on a zoom call and we're opening our Bibles and we read the first two verses of Genesis and we all see that differently.

What's the right way to come together and to discuss and to research what we believe in our hearts that, you know, choosing that as an example, of course, but different versus of the Bible, how we all read

them differently. Well, I mean I always like to, you know, approach all of this with an open mind obviously, and allow and allow it to be you know, allow people to say what they have to say about it and their take on it, because otherwise, if you don't get the grand scheme or perspective of an individual, you don't really understand where they're coming from. Kind of like we didn't take fiptures out of context and then start

pointing the fingers saying this says that when it doesn't. You know, I honestly feel like, you know, we all have our reason for thinking the way we think, and be ready to be humble. We'd be ready to you know, accept that I could be wrong here, you know, and

that's personally, like I said, humility is the way to go. You know, I very well could be wrong, and I am totally open and willing to listen to anybody's perspective and take on it, especially if they're you know, of a longer history in all of this and more learned than I am. I personally like to. I love getting together with people on top and all this, especially if it's not a big headbutting contest where we argue.

And I won't debate scripture, but I will leave an ear. You know, we should be more willing to hear than we are to speak and interject on people on their take on things, you know, because a lot of the Bible has correlation with one another. And if we're taking something out of context to say what we wanted to say, that's a religious spirit, you know. And this isn't religion to me. This is, you know,

our relationship with God. When we read the Word of God, we're literally reading his notes it to us, his words to us, you know, And that is to me, that is an amazing what honor. Yeah, the very person who created the earth that we walk on right now is willing to give us a word, even though we have this divide, this great divide of sin between us, He's still willing to be merciful enough to give us a word, you know, of encouragement, of enlightenment, of

healing. Even the Bible can be healing. The words that are in can you know, show you a lot of healing, you know, of how God operates in the realm. We just don't understand, man. You know, I could try all day, I could dig through scripture all day to get a grasp, but I mean, how could you possibly understand the one who created every single little tiny fabric of you know existence? You can't. You know, well said, really really well said. And we are coming

down to our last fifteen minutes. If there's anything else you wanted to touch on it, I'd like you to do so. But I also don't want to leave through without you touching a little bit on your podcast, which again we'll have the link in the show description and the show notes and his podcast. Tim's podcast is called Redemption Coalition, and I'd want to give you an opportunity to speak on that a little bit as well. And also where can people find it. It's only on Spotify as of right now, until I

have a better platform to operate through to release everything. But as of right now, Redemption Coalition is it's really it's me just putting my thoughts, my testimony, my my where I stand on everything for God, And you know, I really don't want it to be, you know, about me. You know, obviously, I want it to be to the glory of God solely, you know, and if people are willing to listen in, it

would be awesome. But at the same time, you got to understand that I started all of this as an attempt to grow, you know, and in the Lord and just carry on and learn as much as I possibly can. So I'm completely and utterly willing to listen to what people have to say, you know, take in, you know, to consideration people's take on

things, because there's a lot more learned people about all this. You know, I'm kind of a newbie in a manner of speaking, even though I have a history of a lot of biblical doctrine since I was a little kid and it was on and off and drugs were involved, so a lot, a lot has kind of gone to the wind because of that. But as of now, I'm completely sober, you know, I'm trying to live my life fists, you know, in the righteous path as good as possible,

in being led by the Holy Spirit to do so. And without the Holy Spirit, you can't there's no way that you can operate, you know, in a righteous manner. Without God. You just can't. We're flawed individuals, you know, And I'm just I'm really grateful that, you know, I got the opportunity to come on and chat with you about all this because it's something near and dear to my heart, you know, especially as of recently, was everything God has delivered me from. He's taking me out of

drug addiction. You know, I had issues with pornography. I had, you know, issues with alcoholism, and that kind of runs in my family. My dad was an alcoholic and it was one of those things we did to bond together. And man, it's so weird going to my dad's house and not drinking with him, you know, going over there and seeing him drink, and me just like, no, I don't do no more. You sorry, We're just gonna have to bond somewhere else, you know,

go in the garage and fix up my truck or certain. But you know, that was the thing with the military as well. If you're going to see a buddy or there was a military event, it was really hit and most veterans out there listening right now would shake their head north and south that alcohol was a big part of any we'd come home from a deployment. We had a ball. It was all centered We had a grog. It was all centered around alcohol. Yeah, big time, and and I wanted to

touch it. Yeah, go ahead. And it reminded me. You remember the movie The Labyrinth, of course? Yeah, yeah, oh man, if you really like whatn't that movie? And then check the correlation with that

movie in biblical scripture if you really think about it. You know how at the end she tells, you know, the Goblin King that he's got no power over her, you know, at the end of the movie, and he's got the Crystal Ball all the time, and he's like got the Goblin King, which is really funny because the goblins are all these little minions that run around and do his bidding, just kind of like the devil, you know, the Goblin King, and he's the guy his labyrinth, which you

know, our life is in a manner of speaking, kind of like that labyrinth. You know, we were running around not knowing where or where we're going to end up or where we're going to go, you know, the Ball of Eternal Stench, and so you know, you could end up in the Ball of Eternal Stench some now or another by you know, and you get what I'm saying it really, you know, in along the way you have help, you know, And uh, it's just kind of funny. My. I give a shout out to my fiancee. You came up with

that. We're were she just had a revelation out of nowhere. We were studying the Book of Enoch and the Bible and everything, doing our thing for the night, and she just I don't know where it came up with that, right, We were literally praying together about you know, God leading us through this. We just got just got done praying and she looks at me and says that there's a correlation with the I'm like, wow, you know

the labyrinth. She's a some My fiance is such a such a kind arted individual, you know, Like, man, if it wasn't for her, I really I think I would be stuck in my same old pattern of garbage in life, you know. Which she really did help me a lot. You know who knows to her big time? Because yeah, man, she helped me a lot. She was very understanding with everything that I, you know, went through in my life and very patient with me throughout it all. And uh, I got lesser, that's all. I gotta say,

yeah, a good woman could save your life. It did me big time. I can attest to the path. Indeed, well I had one other thing. Oh yeah, I didn't. By the way, I don't know the last time I saw that movie. I know it came out when I was in high school, and I might have seen it once maybe in the last ten years. I just because I was a big David Bowie fan. You know, Ziggy Starred us a great album. But man, I haven't watched it a long time. I guess I'm gonna have to fire it up

here in the I got the next ten days downtime. I'll try to fit it in and check it out. There's so many you know, it's interesting. Like we mentioned earlier in the show with the Sword and the Stone, it's all programming, all of it. It's just crazy. But what I wanted to ask you was have you had any luck spreading the message with biblical cosmology and flatter Earth to others and your family and your friends. There are certain people, yeah, who are susceptible to listen to it. But it's

man, it is such a divisive topic. I started talking to my friend Tony at work and we're pretty good friends. But the moment I was like, you know, I'm listening to the splider As Files podcast, you know, and he's like pretty much immediately was like the problem I have with whatever and this and that he's such a you know, he's so meticulous of a person that it's hard. Once his mind is set about something, it's impossible to break the mold, you know what I'm saying. And there's a lot

of people like that. Pastor Locke. Sorry, yeah, oh sorry, I didn't need to keep bringing that up. I'm sorry. Yeah, it's all good, No, it's I totally understand. And God bless Pastor Locke. I used to do a lot of this. I did too, and I championed him when he stood tall against COVID. The thing wasn't ever really delve deep into him. And then I saw this year he was partners with

Benny Hint and other things. Just got to pray for him and his discernment and that he comes around and even if he doesn't accept flat earth, not to be divisive, you know, with other congregations and things like, yeah, you know, absolutely, and that's you know, man, it just blew my mind the way they all ended. Man, I really did. Yeah, indeed, but yeah, it's again it's been a great conversation.

And again I hope everybody does check out your podcast and your testimony on Redeption Coalition on Spotify, which again the link will be in the show notes. Folks, you don't have to feel like you have to go searching for it, because again, these conversations, these podcasts that deal with the truth, they will do their best to try to hide them, but you can simply go in there. And by the way, his email address, timber Bliss

nine at gmail dot com will also be in the show notes. I want to give you the last few minutes to you know, share any last thoughts with the audience. Really, the last thing that I would like to really say in our ways kind of just the parting word, is that you know, you know, don't follow your heart, follow Christ because he'll change your heart to you know, the will of God. And I honestly feel as though if we're operating in our will, you know, if we're operating in

our will, we're going to be led in so many different ways. That's that's how my life is. The culmlation of my life up until now, you know, up until the point of when I decided to change my life, you know, allow allow Christ to operate in your life. You know, read the scriptures. It's like I just heard recently by the lad subject. He was saying that, you know, reading the Bible is like breathing. You know, you you read the word? Is it inhale? You

inhale the Word, and then you exhale prayer. You read, you inhale the Word of God, and you exhale worship. In What an amazing analogy because that literally, it is the statement of us literally living and breathing the Word of God taking it in. Man shall not live by bread alone,

but by the every word that proceeded out of the mouth of God. And on that topic of you know, the curses, there's a verse that I want to I want to say, and it says, let no corrupt communication proceed from thy mouth, but that of which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearer, and grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed onto the day of redemption. So watch your mouth. That's the simple way to put it, for sure.

Right, that's really great. And again you've got great knowledge and foresight. And again, you know you've dealt with a lot of adversity in your life and you've come up a great man and you've turned your life around. And you're very admire know you as a person, and wish you all the best and continued success as a father, and all the best with you and your fiance. And what a great way to kick off the new year.

What a great way to kick off. To be fair, it's December nineteenth as we record this, but this is actually will be the first podcast released in twenty twenty four. So I want to thank you very much for your time, wish you all the best and to all the listeners. Twenty twenty four should be an interesting year. So if you're thinking about having a conversation

with a friend or family member, don't put it off. And that goes the same maybe you haven't a strange relationship with a friend or family member. You know, we've all been through our struggles with relationships. Pick up the phone, right, we can all have that mentality. All the phone works both ways. Just like Tim said, let's be humble and put our pride aside. It takes five seconds to call that number and tell that person you love them, and there you go. That's my message for twenty twenty four.

No Procrastinating's like, let's put on the armor of God and let's do battle with Satan, and let's tell our friends and our family that we love them. So for Tim, I'm George. I hope everybody has a great week, great new year. God bless you all. Keep your head on a swivel, and until we meet again, we will see it. I know it's been a struggle. I don't know you. That's pain. I'm

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