Episode 128: Flat Earth Conversation with Adi

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today, we're actually recording on February December fifteenth, twenty twenty three. This is dropping I think on around the twenty seventh of December, so we're going back to the future with ad Heyd. How are you doing today, sir? I'm doing very well, George, Thank you for having me on. Like a little bit nervous because I know this is going across the world, right, across across the world. We're going global, right, going global. Yeah, and across the pond, like we were discussing before, like

an old saying, that's true. I've always said across the pond because I actually lived in the US. I did a summer season at Universal Studios, no kidding, Yeah, yeah, yeah, in two thousand and seven. So always used to say, yeah, I've lived across the pond, and yeah, I enjoyed my time there and worked at the Lost Continent which is now the Harry Potter World. Nice. So that's down in Florida, World right, not down in yeah, Orlando. Yeah, sorry Orlando. Yeah,

so I've never actually seen Harry Potter. How did you enjoy the summer in Florida? How did you like the humidity? Yeah? I mean I said a little bit introduction to myself. You know, I am half Italian born in London, so I'm a Brittalian. So the hot weather in Florida for me was no problem at all. You know, every every thing is about two point thirty three pm every day. You get the downpour of the you know, the at that time of year. Because I did June to

September, and yeah, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. And at the end of that, at the end of that time, because Orlando is a bit like cartoon World, you know, everything's very designed for tourism and it's didn't really feel like the real US, my dad came over for the last three weeks and we did a road trip from Orlando to New York and that kid back down. You know, I went all around the other glades in Key West and and then back to Orlando to fly back to England.

What a great memory. Huh. Yeah. Did at the time the world's fastest roller coaster and the tallest one the Kindergar in Jackson, New Jersey. Yep, that's great adventure, right, that's right. Yeah, excess Saturn Day. That's not too far away from me a couple of hours already. Yeah, absolutely absolutely, once you go ahead and introduce yourself to the audience. Yeah, So, like I said, I am a Brittalian. I do speak fluent Italian. I've lived in Italy as a child. I'm forty

two years old. I'm a dad. I've lived in seven countries. I've lived in Australia, New Zealand. So Australia exists as a flower for Australian does exist, you know, for the globe shields out there. And yeah, I lived in the US. I did free summers in ib for DJing. Obviously lived in the UK because I was born here. I've studied in Finland, in Lapland. So I've been next to the Arctic Circle. Is it sixty degrees north? Sixty degrees north of the Artics? I have to

be look Gleason's about whatever. Yeah, yes it is, yes, sixty degrees north. So I've not been to sixty degrees south. You've been in north, but we've been to the sixty degrees north, and yes, I studied studied there for an Erasmus and being out of Italian, I spent about five years of my childhood in Italy, so that's why I was able to That's why I'm able to speak Italian, and yeah, begin to travel. So you know, I've been India for three times. I've traveled India for

three months. I've been around Southeast Asia. I've been all over Southeast Asia, including Vietnam. I didn't know about the Gulf of Tonkin though. At that time. I was really into conspiracies, which I kind of regret now, you know, all the travel that I did and all the places that I've been, I wish i'd known all this information. But yeah, so so I pretty much, you know, lived that kind of life. I was just taking opportunities to go doing these different things at DJing, clubbing,

uh, you know, living in other countries. So it was kind of

unaware really of all the talk that was going on. So so kind of you know, So let's start with maybe September eleven, So September eleventh, I was actually ib for in two thousand and one, and I hadn't watched TV all of that summer and we went to a club on the you know, the night before on the tenth, so we were kind of going back to someone's house and it's the first time that there was a TV in someone's house where I'd been to in this apartment, and we had the TV on

the background. There was some cartoons playing and then all of a sudden, the twin towers popped up. What's that? So we kept you know, changing the channels in every TV station had the twin towers on there, and eventually we found one with CNN right because we were in Spain, so it was all the Spanish, but this one had CNN right, so we had you know, the chat was in Spanish, but they had the CNN in

English. Are very we're able to understand what was going on, and saw the second plane hit, the supposed second plane or whatever it might have been, the explosion go go into the to the second tower, so you know that that you know, seeing that that was like you know, mine based there was it was the trauma mine based Champea based mind control exactly. Yeah, and that that stuck with me for years. So like September eleventh for me was you know like I really I used to get really emotional about it.

And it wasn't until about sort of two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight, when I think I watched Zeitgeist. I think it kind of covered that, yep. So so I kind of like knew that there was sort of secret societies. And then I started questioning nine to eleven because you know, none of it really made any sense. But you know, those whole years two thousand and one to two thousand and four with the Gold Forward, the weapons and Master structured all of this, you know, like it

was it was a lot. He kind of kind of gave you the fear. You know, living in the UK as well, there's a lot of Muslims here, so you'd always be a bit wary sometimes, you know, certain situations. I was also working or a major coach company here during the seven seven bombings, so I was dealing with people and were actually evolved in that in that situation, So you know, there was there was a lot of that going on. But whilst I was doing all of that, I

was living my life, you know, traveling here and there. Anyway, So fast forward to twenty twenty, you know, I kind of believe the mainstream narrative of everything, because I obviously had this sort of doubt. By the way, I always had a doubt with the moon Landing as well, since I was a child. I just I just couldn't quite work out how they would film it in the sixties, right, and how they'd make these phone calls. You know. I'd always I'd always that doesn't look real.

I'd always have that. So I never I never really trusted the moon landing for it as long as I can remember. Really, you know, I wasn't shocked. Let's put it this way. When I really looked into it, I was like, oh, Greigie, that's it is a load of nonsense. So so anyway, so come to twenty twenty. I'm working for a major travel company. I'm working with my Italians, I'm you know,

speaking to Italians, and they're going into lockdowns. So I was like, this is this is coming here, this is this is you know, speaking to my colleagues around me, Yeah, this is going to happen here. They were like thehand, it's fine, it's fine. But it did eventually come to the UK, and you know, it was early early March twenty twenty and Funnily enough that the first, the first sort of registered COVID death was the day that my brother actually went into hospital in the same hospital.

It was the same hospital where they registered the first step because he'd gone into that hospital and that was happened in that hospital. It was in Reading, and I was like, oh, that's that's a bit too close for comfort, right, So yeah, I was totally totally watching BBC the sky or the updates to the point where, you know, I was going to the supermarkets and I'd watched my shopping Know, it's crazy to admit this, but you know, you know, I'm open and honest, little hand sanitizer on

the letters, just to make sure it's good to go. Yeah, exactly. So I was doing all of this and my missus, she's she's been awake for a very long time, you know, since the mid eighties really, so she's always been anti sort of establishment, and she would say things like to me, like, you know, I would be like, oh, you know, the NHS is good and all of this, and she'd be like, no, no, no, it's just not good. And I was like, what what do you mean, what do you mean?

So I think she's the she is in fact the major point into how I woke up. But she'd say things like I don't have fluorid in my tooth based and I was like, when ant you have florid in your toothpast So I stopped buying toothpastes of florid about maybe twenty twenty eighteen. You know, I met her in twenty sixteen to twenty eighteen, so I'd stop having floored them at toothpaste, so it's gone more natural stuff. I would buy things

of adaminium products. And I think this is all of these little things that I did help me to the to the on my journey of the truth. You know, it was it was much easier to to take the information. And I think especially knowing that you know, the glor i'd calcifies your pineal gland. Yeah that's right, is so so yeah, So I you know,

going back to the you know, the March twenty twenty time. Believe in all the narrative, the point was my missus she wasn't doubting the whole thing, but because I was so into the updates on the news and everything, she started to get the fear and everything. So it was about early April and I actually bought something for her for her birthday, but it didn't

get delivered. It got delivered to a distribution center this package. So I went to to pick this up. And my mum lives in the same town, so, which was about half an hour away from Oxford, and I went to get this this this package, and I said, look, I'll go and see my mom. I'll speak to her from the balcony. And so I did that. I've got the package, went to my mom's house and she says, look, just just come up. I'll make you some past her. My mum's Italian. I'm not going I'm not going to say

it's right. Mum's good gid. So so I went up and you know, we social distres, we didn't the we did all the things that you know, the news told us to do. And I had this lovely bottle pastor. And anyway, so my missus called me and she said, you've gone in the house, haven't you. And I was like, yeah, I have, yeah, yeah, but but we haven't. You know, She's like, you're not coming home. You're not coming You've got to stay there now for two weeks. You know, this, this is the whole

thing that isolate and all this kind of yeah crap. So I said, no, there's no way I'm coming home. I'm coming home. I haven't got anything with me. I'm coming home. So we got into a bit of an argument, and as I was, you know, driving up, had to pull over and and just yeah, just say, look I am, I'm on my way home. I'm coming back. And the thing that the one thing that I said that made me snap, the snap and click in my head was like, I go into the supermarkets, I'm surrounded by

loads of people, and then the supermarkets are not the cleanest places. There's people from everywhere. My mum's house is cleaner than the supermarket, and you're happy for me to go to the supermarket and get the shopping in common. So so anyway, chilllled me. I came back. So for about three weeks in my own head, I was down everything. I down the news. I switched it off. I switched everything off. I just had no more updates. I was watching comedy stuff because it was whilst I was working.

I had so whilst I was working, because we were working from home. We got sent home to work from the thirtih March, and I have my personal laptop, you know, playing stuff whilst I was working because I could do that. And yeah, I just had comedy on the background doing the work, and but but doubting everything that was going on on the outside. And then one day in early May, missus said, I've watched this video and I've changed my mind. I don't believe any of it. And

I was like, you can't change your mind just watching the video. And I said, I said, YouTube video. But it wasn't the YouTube video. What it was. It was the David Ike and Brian Rose video that got banned on YouTube and was uploaded to London real Now, I had no idea who David Ike was, never heard of him, never heard of Brian Rose, didn't even know that that thing was going on any of that.

So I watched that video and I think it was a Monday. It was either a Sunday night or a Monday of that week in early May or twenty twenty. And by the end of that videos, I think it's three hours. I was like, I need, I need to look at into the to some more things. So I went down the rabbit hole and I went down at fast. It was one hundred and twenty miles an hour seatbelt on Go and I watched all of the cabal. I watched Out of Shadows, I found band dot video. I was watching Alex Jones and I had no

idea who Alex Jones was. I was just I was just finding all this stuff out and all the information that they were saying. I was then going and looking for myself. So but one of one of the things I did find, he's like, do you know he's typing Melinda Gates Foundation and then you know anything going against them and FactCheck dot org that's for any hop up. So I'd go and I was like, okay, so fact check dot Org. I looked at the bottom of this of the page it said University

of Pennsylvania. So I clipped on the University of Pennsylvania, went into the bill and Milinda Gates Foundation put it in the search and then up up up pops up. A grant that was given to the University of Pennsylvania from the Built and Milinda Gates Foundation in September twenty nineteen. I think it was for social studies of you know, medical information is so fact check dot Org was

created from the University of Pennsylvania to counteract social information on social media. But you know that that's probably not one hundred percent correct the way I'm describing it, because it's been a long time since I've talked about it. But if you go on if you go on the grants, you can find this information out. You'll be able to see it. Sorry. Immediately I was like, right, okay, so this is this is obviously a massive conspiracy.

This is this is something going on. Then there was you know, on on on Facebook, there was an anti Bill Gates page and lots of information was being shared on this on this on this page, all the COVID stuff everything, you know, just a lot of stuff. It got it got taken down soon after, but but it did have like one point two million one point or millions something followers on there before he got shut down. So on that on that page, all right, this is where this is where

my awakening journey, my my story gets a bit different very quickly. On that page, someone this was on the Sunday, so I know the date. It was a Sunday, the fifteenth mate. On that page, someone shared a link to a website called King of dot UK. King of dot UK, So I click on this link I go into it and there's all these all this like historical information about the royal family and everything, and this guy called Joseph Gregory had it who's claiming to be the real King of England.

So you know, I'm reading all this information. I'm going on. I go into Facebook, try and type in to see if there's anything there, and there isn't. So, you know, I'm reading all the information on the website, and then I decide to create a Facebook page for this guy. I don't know, I've never met him, never heard of him, but I create a Facebook page because it's not there anyway. So this

was so bit of like the fifteenth of May. So between the fifteenth of May and I think about the nineteenth of May, I'm having, you know, like serious awakening. You know, I did have a point, a point where like you know, it was like a bloodshot eye and it was it was very it was very intense, and I fell out with a lot of friends, you know, a lot of friends circle friends of like twenty

years. Just wow, me deleted me all my club, a lot of my club and friends, a lot of friends that I've lived with in Australia, in ib for gone think that because of that he was on COVID, Pews and COVID and then finding out this information. Now I'm a bit of a blaber mouth. I get excited, right, So I get excited. So you know, as my story goes on, you know, I've learned and outcome later. But at the time, you know, because you know the social guide that I am, I was telling everyone. I was like,

look this whole thing that scam like to tell you the truth. And I don't know if you know Mark Devlin, but you know he had a similar kind of thing, you know, that's what he was doing. And so yeah, I was. I was just trying to trying to tell everyone, and you know, thinking that they were my friends, I thought they

would listen to me. And I've got at the time, I had so called best friends, like a lot of them from different stages of my life, different different different points because I've had such a sporadic kind of twenty years. And yeah, no, they were locking me, deleting me at everything. So so anyway, so I decided to go to my Dan's house to take a break. I've got a young daughter at the time, and you know, this whole thing with you know, the King information was you know,

a lot. I was getting a lot of backlash from all sides of my friends and family because, you know, trying to explain, you know, but obviously some guy who's trying to take over the monarchy. That's that's quite a big thing when you think about it. So so anyway, so I go to my dad's house for a couple of weeks and the first couple of days is not good. You know, we're having a few arguments,

but then after that we didn't. So I in that time I made this video which I uploaded to YouTube and accord it to transitioned to greatness because I was also, oh yeah, I haven't mentioned it yet, but in that so as well, the King stuff and the anti COVID stuff Q as well. So I was looking into two Q and there was one particular video which was done by a brit called is a three hour videos like her? Like her one hundred proofs of Q or three hundred proofs of Q, you know,

like he was going through it is that a three hour video? So I was on the Trump train at the time. I was, uh, you know, anti COVID doing all of this. So so I made this video called Transition to Greatness, uploaded it so YouTube and I was kind of like on the on the Q train as to believe in that, you know that JFK Jr. Could be there right and all of this, and I was just like, you know, it wasn't just me talking about it. There was a lot of Facebook all the time to talk and sharing information.

And you know, like I said, before I went one hundred and seventy miles down the rabbit hole, I was, I was, I was, I'd changed my world view in what I thought, I changed my world view in a week. How to get to that point in a minute. But yeah, So I made this video and in the in the meantime whilst I'm down there, I end up having contact with with Greg Altt, the you know, the guy who wants to be king, and I you know, I said, I said, look, I can. I can do social

media. I've done social media for the jobs I've had and helped with the Facebook page. And he was saying that, yeah, I've got a film crew that I come in. They want to you know, do a documentary about my story. And because I've got a drone and now to do owning, I said, I'm happy to do the drone for you and being the drove pilot for it. So this was organized towards the end of May, and then we had some dates set or filming in June of twenty twenty.

So you got to think that lockdowns are still going on at this time. You know, we're for sure we were as bad as say like Australia and some European countries and Italy, but you know, people did take it seriously. So I ended up going to Norfolk in early June. So you know, I left my dad's, we came back home and yeah, went to Norfolk in early June, and we went to this I guess it's you could

call it mansion. It's a big house anyway, and we did some film in there, uh for for this documentary which is called The Hidden King, and imates some of some of the you know that the people, the guy that interviewed it, the guy that knew, the guy who was able to he was able to film at this this location, and yeah, it was just a really interesting time. So it was only I was only supposed to get there for two days, but we ended up staying there for seven days.

So checked it out for a random story. We're filming there at this at this property, and one of one of the guys who's organized the location there gets in touch with another mate and says, you know, we're in Norfolk, you know, we're doing this documentary. And the guy says, yeah, yeah, yeah, come around. You know, we'll organize a dinner and so anyway, yeah, he says, oh, whereabouts are you?

And it turns out it was the property next door. But these are big properties, so it was like a field a field across, so I mean, what are the chances we're in this location? And the guy, the guy's mates of both of these two people that didn't know were neighbors. We ended up walking across the field and going to this other property and we had this dinner and we ended up staying there for five days. Wow, just having you know, filled me and having a good time. You know,

the whole country's in fear at this point. You know, we weren't. We were just living, living, living our lives. You know, we're just I met so many people in the I don't know if you've ever seen Tom Numbers. He's active across YouTube. Sure, yeah, but I'm sure some of the listeners might have might have seen him, but he was there and yeah, just just met some really cool people and had a great time. So anyway, so we left there. That documentary went out in

sort of July twenty twenty. And when it started going out, so there was three parts. There was the Hidden King, then there was Coffee with the King Part one, and Coffee with the King Part two. By the sort of second one that was released, the sort of hype about it, because there was a lot of hype as well about this in England and in America as well. You know, there's a lot of people interested from everywhere.

Really, it was starting to die down a bit. And in August of twenty twenty, and I had a conversation with Greg and the he said basically wants to do the Facebook page himself, you know, and I was like, okay, yeah, no problem. So his guy, he's got a friend. I forgot what it's called when it did it, So I had no further contact with that, and I changed my mind about it as

well at that point. By by August of twenty twenty, and obviously I could have really talked to many people about it, friends or family, about that particular story, I just changed my mind in my own my own head, and just carried on with where I'm about to go. So so yeah, so the film crew and Greg as well, that they kind of fell out a bit, and yeah, that's it. That for me, that

was the end of that story. I was just the drone pilot. But that particular two months affected relationship with my dad, with my brother and these so called best mates that I had quite a few of them. Don't know how many, bit at least eight to ten, I don't know, I don't know. There's a lot. There's a lot of Facebook friends are no, they weren't. Just Facebook friends are just gone. But that was one of the intentions of COVID was divide and conquer, and it certainly worked,

Oh for sure. Absolutely. You know it's even even to this day it's very touchy subject, you know, you know, it's it's yeah. So so I moved on from that and I found a girl who was helping a movement called Freedom for the Children. So there was Freedom for the Children going on in the US. I don't know if you ever ever saw that. And her name's Laura. She she she was like, I'm going to do this in the UK. So I said I'm happy to help you out.

And uh, and the girl called Lucy Davis was helping Laura Award out and they organized Freedom for the Children. So I went there and I was at the Freedom for the Children in London March on August twenty second, twenty twenty. So all the Q staff about child trafficking and everything, and that that's you know, part of that emotional period of time in May. You know that that when I was going down the rabbit, a lot of that stuff of the you know, the awaitning and you know that was knowing about the

darkness of all the satanic rich absolutely you know that that. I mean that that's a lot to take in, so you know, and trying to explain that to people, you know, and like, you know, it's something no, but it's going on right, And I think that's something that we should great from going from just a regular person to go onto the clubs to listen to the music and then a few months later you're you're seeing the evil

of this world for what it really is. Uh. That that can affect you mentally like big time, having on a level of depression that's really hard to deal with. Yeah, I wouldn't say I was depressed at any point. It was more like just like it was more like you know that I guess the armor of God was coming on, you know, like there you go like I'm I'm ready, I'm ready to go here. You know this is this is like something that's needs to be fought against. Yeah, it's

just not good. So so yeah, that's why I was willing to go to London and and not not just take part in, you know, in the march, but actually help the organizers, you know, as ready to help them. And one thing I ever mentioned, yeah, is that during the filming have you have you ever heard of Charlie Ward? Oh? Yes, of course, yeah, yeah, so I have. I helped get a lot of people on Charlie Ward's channel at the start of his sort of

channel. So I would the people that I met, you know, Tom Tom Numbers and that that that that there filming, and just through my networking that was doing that that point, I was getting a lot of people on to go in Charlie Ward and also Nicholas Benjamin have you heard of him? Not familiar with that one? He went on Charlie Ward's show and he then ended up doing it himself. And he's interviewed quite a lot of big of the quite a lot of big players in the truth movement in the political side

of things. Trump Trump, uh. And so I got Laura and Lucy Davis in touch with Charlie ward So they ended up going on there, and you know, they they were you know, I've been on YouTube channels with them, and you know, We've had a few discussions about freedom for the children in March to promote it, and yeah, that's what that's what I got in touch with. Laura says, look, I can help get some

awareness to this, get there on Charlie ward show. So I used to I used to send the information to Charlie Ward's guy called Lee and he would then contact Charlie Warden and put it on there. So at this point I didn't have hardly any contact with Charlie. So so, yeah, so we went to this march and we actually had the police that were escorting us and they were, you know, shutting the roads down so that we could do

it. And there was about two thousand of us. Wow. Yeah, and considering you know, up to that point, you know, the countries in lockdowns, I hadn't really met other people that had done the same kind of research I had. But all of a sudden, we're we're outside Parliament, went outside Buckingham Palace, just amazing people all you know, no knowing about the you know, the the childs are African, that's that's going on.

And yeah, so that so went to that. The following week was the twenty ninth of August, and that was when David Ike was speaking at Trafalgar Square, so the anti lockdown that. Yeah, so I went to that. That's where I met Tiana, who I'll speak about in a bit.

So I met Tiana there. She ended up helped her, you know, an interview with Charlie Ward and she moved on excuse me, and she ended up interviewing David Ike you know, later down the line and all this, and yeah, it just when I was when I was there, it was just amazing to see people that were looking into the same kind of things. People from all over the UK were there, and I was like, right, you know, this is things are changing, like you know,

this is this is something going on. So so then I went every week. So I went. I went on the twenty ninth of August. The next one in early September, I think it was the fifth. Then on the tenth of September in Oxford, I went to the one there and Mark Devlin was speaking there and Mark Devlin did his speech and then there was a gap, so I ended up getting on the mic and chatting in front of the right. That's farther listic about such a random, random time in the

last few years, but yeah, I ended up chating. It's about you know, twenty people got a lot of abuses. Well, you know this is Oxford, that's that, that's the breeding ground of the New World Order, absolutely, and yeah, you know at least six people were proper shouting us that, you know, get out of here, you know, what

are you talking about? And yeah, so so I spoke them and then I kept going to the protests in London and then it was I think it was I remember the date exactly, but mid September that's when I started seeing the protests not being friendly anymore, and the police were cramp clamping down on it. They were I've seen I've seen them, you know, hit people, push people to the ground, arrest them for no reason. There I

saw you know, dr was his name, doctor Haiku. His name anyway, I saw him get arrested because he spoke there was he was banned from YouTube and everything, and so it was it was now like, okay, yeah, this is becoming very real now, Like I think at that point found telegram and I was seeing all the stuff that was going on in Holland as well, and you know, it's like the stuff that we've run in

Holland. For example, I saw a man just get you know, smacked, smacked to the ground, a dog set upon him and everything, and you know, I was like, wow, this is this is really becoming something more serious. And yeah, that carried on until about December twenty twenty and it got to the point where the last lockdown March, I was like, right, look, you know, no one went because they didn't start

till March twenty twenty one again. But by December, a lot of you know a lot of people are just getting arrested and beating up for no for no reason really. So yeah, in the UK, they announced the Tiard lockdown on the thirty first of October and they put it into place on the fifth of November, which fifth of November is big deal, thoughts, No, yeah, yeah, so you know, Mark Devlin chats a lot about about this with dates and you know the or the significance of dates and how

they use it. I mentioned Mark Devlin a lot because I've actually got to the room and you meet them at the the Freedom rallies and and everything. But yeah, so there was a bit of a break and it comes to March twenty twenty one and lockdown March is start happening again because they went from the tiered lockdown here in the UK to a full lockdown, and you know, it was it was intense, but peak. Look having this awakening and even falling out with all the friends that I did, we were living our

best lives in the situation. So we enjoyed ourselves with my family. You know, we're a young daughter. We we Christmas Christmas Day, we went down to Devon and we had Christmas in Devor and the fire went to the beach. We had a great time. But you know, the old country is living in fear. We was like, no, we're not, We're not playing this game. And we were able to go anyway because at the time it was tiered lockdowns, so we were able to book a property in

another county. Crazy. It was when we were driving down there as well. We had like the road signs saying that you are entering a tiered too. Oh my gosh, yeah, yeah it was. It's just it's obviously bonkers to think about it. But yeah. So anyway, it comes to March twenty twenty one and you know, the rally start again in the UK

and it was it was. It was big the march on but then the ones that May and June ant lockdown marches in the UK there was at least one to one point five million people and the marches and the BBC and you know, they reported it as you know, initially at first they were reporting hundreds, you know, the previous months, but for these ones they actually said thousands because it was quite obvious that there were a lot of people that but that yeah, there was. It was one of the best things I've

ever seen, was was marching through London in the sunshine. Just the sea of people that we're all awake and aware of everything that was going on, and it was. Yeah, it was amazing and I honestly think being part of that and the people that did that helped the UK get out of lockdowns. Just like the pushback and if if that that wave I think might have assisted other countries as well, because it was obvious what I was going on in the UK and over time. You know the lockdowns he's later on,

but went to the one in July. I've only even talked about we've got we've got plenty of time. Yeah, yeah, we start forty five minutes. But I just wanted to say, uh, you know, you're really impressive, because you know it's one thing to see say see something and say something, but you actually, uh, you know, you don't just talk the talkie, walk the walk. It's our responsibility. If we know something is wrong, it's our responsibility to get out there and do what we can.

Like civil disobedience is what you guys did and what we should all do to say no, this is wrong. You don't have the right to tell us that we're not essential or shut us down. And it does make you feel like you have accomplished something that you stood up to the face of tyranny and said no. Thank you, and you guys and all the other people who went out against the orders of lockdown and everything else, you guys are You're truly heroes. Like I said, when I appreciate those comments. But

like I said, I felt like the armor of God. Like you know, I've not mentioned it, but I was kind of borderline atheist before May twenty twenty, and I'd stopped being atheist in May twenty twenty when I realized that there was this satanic agenda going. I don't know, is that well, if they believe this stuff, then there must be a creative and that's even before I get to flat Earth. So but like, yeah, you know, I megaphone, I was a very loud that was very put it

that way. I've got I've got a megaphone right there, and yeah, I certainly made made made a noise, and but yeah, I like this.

This is June twenty twenty one. At the same time going to that, I was also moving house, so I was moving out of Upsid and moving to where I live now more in the countryside, and I've kind of been I'd got over the you know, the COVID stuff, had enough of it, so I was like, you know what, I'm going to look into flat Earth, right, so I'll spend the next forty five minutes now

talking about the flatir bars right as well. And yeah, so the people that I've been following and listening to they were kind of mentioning that, and Charlie would actually interviewed David Weiss and that was that. He interviewed him in sort of March twenty twenty one sort of time. So when I watched that and had no idea who David Wece was, and because I've been helping Charlie Wood get some of the contacts, I was like, oh, you know, that was that was a good one. And I watched it and it

made sense to me, But that was it. It just made sense to me. Carried on. It was all about the lockdown still and all that kind of thing. But I'd hear other commentators like Jason Q. I don't know if you've ever seen him in the Q movement. He had a big following. He'd say, yeah, flat Charlie Free as well, another guy is that yeah, okay, yes, But hearing that didn't make me think, Wow, that sounds ridiculous after what I'd seen for the last year or

so. I'm over to anything really really really doesn't it, So you know, an open mind to discover we're into into flat air? I was, I was, I was, I was like, yeah, it's one hundred percent flat in that time. I was the way I did it was bind David Weiss's interviews, see who's interviewing, and then I'd find the people that was interviewing and find the flat Earth is through there, Because you couldn't all the stuff I was watching, none of none of the stuff I was coming

to me. I had to do it that way to see the content. And through that I found out about O D D t V, Dave Murphy and Legend D Dave and I was like, the another world. It is literally another world. It's it's relationary, topographical, level playing world. I was like, Wow, this is the real world. And you know, listening to these guys, these guys made way more sense than some of the

other other sort of political people I was listening to. And I was like, so I switched all of that off, really all the political stuff, and just concentrated on on on these guys and you know, Sean Hire, Blur and all of them, and yeah, I was just like Yeah. By June, in my moving date in June twenty twenty one, one flat mentioned this to my missus and she was like, let's still not again, right. It was the King last year. Now, now you're on the

right. But yeah, after a couple of weeks, you know, I kept saying, but look, you know, check this little clip out, look at this little thing. And because she she was already awaken away for for a long time, you know, you know, even way before the COVID stuff, she never never trusted that she saw it. And she's on board after after a few weeks. So so yeah, so during that time

I started doing a bit more sort of local activism. And when I was, you know, doing the local activism, i'd speak to uh, you know, there was a thing here called rebels and roundabouts, so we'd stand on the roundabouts with yellow boards because here, you know, for vaccine injuries, it's the yellow card scheme. H r A. We're sending roundabouts around

Oxfordshire and the Cotswolds. And at this point, because I was into flat Earth, I was just like, right, my, my, my, my role now is I'm going to wait truth seeking people to flat Earth rather than hosting this stuff on my Facebook because it didn't work. My goal was now waking people up to flat earth in the truth. Yeah, I can put it on Facebook. I can put a video of a chicken walking in circles and I'll get twenty likes, but I've got something serious of that flatter

not even nothing, not at all. So yeah, I learned the same thing like you did. Yeah, yeah, I know, I kind of. I I learned that through the stuff that I was posting in the previous year. That that's you know, I'm I'm not even going to bother the

truck doing this with flat earth. But because of the amount of people that I met through through you know, the activism and on the marches and networking that I've done, I was like, you know, I camecome wake a lot of people up here that are truth seeking people like you know, and yeah, so that that was kind of the thing that we're doing, you

know, just doing these rebels aroundabout standing in the park. Did a couple of social events as well, DJ at these social events, and then it kind of got on to well, so I ended up in hospital in January sixth, twenty twenty two. Right, So that's kind of where my journey was going. I was doing all this you know, this local ACTIVISMB and you know, still at work and doing all this kind of thing. But anyway, I twenty eight for December twenty twenty one. I think it was

I fell ill. I was in bed until January sixth, twenty twenty two, and he got to the point on that day that I had to ring nine nine nine here, which nine nine nine down at six sixty six, and they put it in your face here, and then nine one one in the US as well, nine eleven. It's all these numbers. It's unbelievable. Just a coincidence, right, yeah, just a coincidence. So so I ended up in hospital in January sixth, and they took me in within

an hour. Now you go understand that we're still we're still in the COVID lunacy here, and I'm unjabbed sporty at the time, and you know, I was, I was. I was a stat. I was. I was a good stat for them. So I get in there and basically I was in the waiting room and you know, I've been in bed horizontal on the level, on the level bank, and I go go into this weighting room where they put me this like hard chair. Our window was open,

it was January, it was freezing, and I was weak. I was so weak at this point, I was I was very weak and eating properly and everything. My missus was getting ill. That's why I ended up calling the hospitals. I was like, you not able to look asto me, You'll get right. So so I was coughing up blood and and that's why I went in there. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty bad and my left flung. So I ended up going into hospital and in the first few hours, you know, they put a pc PCR test up my nose, which

I didn't want, but they did it. So unfortunately I've had two PCR tests go up my nose, one one in the ambulance and once in the waiting room, and very annoyed by that because I managed to get that farther

we were ever doing it. And then yeah, yeah, they're basically or one of one of the female doctor came in and she says, look, we're gonna we're gonna give youvere and and to some to Sylle misab you'll never say and you know, calmly, calmly said that to me, and she got up and left the room, and I'm like, that's I've heard that before. So I went on bit shoot. Luckily I had a charge up phone and this is like literally when you're in the waiting room about to get

this done to you. Yes, so they put me in a waiting room to get a bed. So this is in the waiting room. So it's not even a proper hospital room. It's it's it was very uncomfortable, very basic, and the window was open. You know, I was cold. I hadn't eaten drunk anything. Was then another thing as well, this is put a box of frozen cherries for me to have and that's spilt all in my bags, the cherries all over the stuff that I had. So I was that to deal with his eyes like you know, it was it was

a bad situation, but you had the way up withal. They gold a bit shoot and put rem deservir into the search engine and something came up that opened your eyes. Yes, so there was a there was a video.

There was only like ten videos that came up in the search, but one of them was that Dr Brian Ardish doing a presentation about remdesevir and basically one of the key things I remember from that was he said that in twenty eighteen, by the patients who were given remdesivie and fifty four percent of the patients died and what remdesevir does is that it shuts down your kidney and liver functions and then your body car release the fluids so they build up into your lungs

and then you drown from pulmonary edema. That's how that's that's the side effects of ramdese if it goes to that point. So I knew that if I was to take redes, I'd be dead. I'd be I was so weak at that point. I was like, there's no way I'm taking that because I couldn't go to the toilet properly and taking something that might affect my kidneys in my liver, you know, And I knew. I knew that it would kill me, basically. So the nurse then came in about an hour

later with the ramdever to fort of it. You know that they already put the thing to put in it, you know, the drip, right, And I said, I'm not having it, and they it's a bit it's a bit shocked. He's like why, And I was like, so if I'm not having it, I was just I don't want it. So anyway, so I didn't have the He left left the room, left the room in there, and they had a doctor come in, so why don't you

want it? Then another and it kind of left me. And this was about nine o'clock at night, so I got in there eleven o'clock in the morning. So at nine o'clock at night, they then moved me into a room. So in this room, though, I had to share with two other guys, one of them was in his sixties seventies and talking very strangely, calling for his mum. It was very weird. But they wheeled me

into the COVID nineteen red zone. So I'd like, can you imagine like I'd been for the last two years and then all of a sudden, I'm getting wheeled into this COVID nineteen red zone. I'm like, what is what is going on there? So, yeah, they they put me in this room. I obviously didn't have a great night sleep because of this guy talking

and you know, they just feeling a crap basically excuse my language. And yes, like about six seven o'clock in the morning, guy comes in takes my blood and it's really he hurts me, like when he takes my blood. It was quite painful. Then another guy come in and going through the CT scan that I went through and just saying, look, you know, if you don't take these drugs, you could be in here for the next two months, you could end up on the ice, you and all the

fear born. Basically there's that's just awful. Yeah, And I was like, no, no, no, I'm not I'm not I'm not having it. I'm not taking it. What are the alternatives? And you know, they said I could take these steroids, so I said, okay, I'll take the steroids. I later found out when I rewatched the Dr Brown artist video actually mentioned one of the steroids and there was a four percent chance of that shatting down your kidney functions as well. So there's only till after I

took it I've found it out. But anyway, so they kind of said, right, we've got your room, so they took me into a room and yeah, I'm in my own room in the OSLA Respiratory Unit, which is the one below of the ICU. And then I still had like one or two doctors came in giving me this spill. So these forty eight hours was literally about I think about seven to ten doctors. I can't remember the exact numbers, but I saw many doctors the doctors. All they were doing

was trying to get me to take these drugs. In the end, they gave up and left me alone. So I've got no bad words to say about the nurses. They actually looked after me and they were really helpful. But the doctors, apart from the last one, they all just sales pitch to get sales pitch with Fearborne And anyway, cut a long story short, I ended up getting out there in six days. But I might mention listeners

might want to try this. I drank this onion drink, red onion drink, bought it for fifteen minutes with lemon juice, and that that really sort of that there's a chemical reaction between lemon and the onions that that sue sues the inside of your lungs or or whatever. I mean. It worked. Anyway, so I was having an air and I recovered. I was out there in six days, and yeah, so I got out of there, and then I told my story at the Oxford Freedom Rally. So I don't

know if you've ever had a I mentioned Lucy Davis before. She was quite spoken on YouTube, but she spoke and she introduced me. So to her twenty minute slot. She gave me ten minutes of her twenty minute slot. So I went on told my story in front of about four or five hundred people in Oxford. This time there was a lot more people, you know, there was a more advertisement for it and bigger, bigger. By this

point a lot of people had seen it. Uh and yeah, and then Mark Devlin went on after me after telling them my story of what just happened in hospital. So so basically, you know, i'd kind of at this first hand experience now of being in the hospital, seeing seeing what's going on, and I was quite humbled by everything, and because of because of the way, you know, as I used to last my Facebook with content,

it's just just you know, sure los Bard, I didn't care. I did care, but you know, it's just want of the truth out there. But I took a step back and I said, you know what if people can't see this at this point, you know, it's everyone's on their own journey kind of thing. And what just happened to me, I was humble by the situation I had. You know, I can see the chapter. A couple of the nurses there and told them why I didn't take the

job. Oh, yeah, everyone everyone asking me have you been vaccinated? No, whoever came in asking me these questions, doctors, nurses and as to why I didn't, And yeah, I just I just thought, you know what, look put people on their own journeys. So I'm going to take a step back from this. In that time as well, I was, I was changing jobs. I was, I started an interview process before

went into hospital and the company actually you know, realized the situation. They said, oh, you know, we'll come back to and then they didn't offer me the job. And then three weeks later, at the end of February, they actually offered me the job. So I ended up moving this job. Well, and because of the company I was going through, a SaaS company. I won't mention them, but I am. I deleted all the stuff that I had on Facebook. I didn't delete, I hit it.

I just made it for myself. Because new job, the people who I used to work for I knew what I was looking into. And you know, like I said, I was both open open mouthed about it. Also they is anything but but I didn't want that with a new job.

But yeah, they they made me redundant in the July and you know, just kind of you know, in the last few years just and then on in the last few in the last well, yeah, in the last few years were nearly twenty twenty four and now so but yeah, like mid mid July twenty twenty two to now, I've I'm our private high driver, so

I drive across ox Ship and that's what I do. I'm self employed and and uh yeah, really really really enjoying my time and and really being free and and seeing the day change and following the sun and you know, and and paying attention to the moon and everything. So yeah, it's it's it's

good times now. So yeah, getting back onto two flat Earth really, you know, like no knowing knowing where we are, that we're that that we are created, that we're in a we're in an energy system that you know, you know, there's a number of theories as to what it is, but you know, the thing for me that makes the most sense is that that there is something at the North Pole that connects to the polaris and that that energy makes the Sun and the moon go round, and you know,

is it is it the heavens above that are giving light into the firmament that creates all the stars and the movement, you know, like I think like when so when people say when you know this guy on Facebook, there was a back and forth he's saying, I know when he's saying like a sort of the cosmology of the heliocentric model, It's like, look, mate, I don't believe in that cosmology. So what I think is going on is not that. So your points make no sense to me in what I

think is going on. So like it's it's it's hard to describe, but yeah, I just I just think we are living in a you know, like a and the energy system and everything's got a role to play, and and my idea of the creator is you know, I've been listening to a lot of the Biblical stuff and when I go around when my job's now, sometimes I'll pop into churches and check the Bibles to see really if they've changed the language. Yeah, yeah, because I'm here, there and everywhere.

So you know, some of the Bibles now say sky instead of firmament. Yes, that was just mentioned on my last interview, the I V version they replaced. Actually, I can tell you right here and literally it says that here it is Psalms nineteen one. Yeah, and it replaced the word firmament with sky this epistom. But yeah, there's a church in a place called golring S where George Michael used to have Actually, yeah, there's a Methodist church and they've got Psalms nineteen one. I took a photo of it.

They've got Psalms nineteen one, but it has sky on there and not the firmament yep. So on the review on Google actual scream and theo and the photo of Ernavon Brown's headstone stone. Yeah, yeah, guys proclaim the work of his hants. That's that's it. Yeah, they've they've changed it. So so so my point is that I now believe in creation and the Creator. So but I am I am not really following in any religion so to speak. You know, personal background is I was baptized Roman Catholic.

Because of my it's had in to me, but I never followed any of that. And my dad is a Jehovah's Witness that's been this fellowship, So he was a Jehovah's Witness up until he was eighteen. But you know, my English family, I hardly know them because of the Jeovah's witnesses. And I've actually been on a flat Earth show on YouTube with with Extra Hovah's witnesses talking about flat Earth's interesting. Yeah and that was that was about a young and a half ago. But yeah, so I believe. I believe there's

a creator. I believe the creator may be like an energy that we can't even have them like we would like like something that lives through every living thing, you know, like the creator knows what idea is thinking that type of thing, or you know what plants do it. That's why I think the creator, if he's able you know, he or whatever whatever be able to

create, then you know each thing has its purpose. You know. There are some some things that just can't be explained how you know, like the monarch butterflies that I think they go from Louisiana or or somewhere in the US to Mexico. How did they do that? How did they know to do? You know that? That's things like that. So I think, yeah, this EURF is much more intelligently designer or whatever you can even think.

Ready, Yeah, there's so much amazing things like you talk about the locust, what animals lose their shells, animals that transform like butterflies and all about the migrations. It really was really uh smartly created. And again that's why, yeah, going all the way back to episode one, is why the lie? And I think that's when you try to explain flat Earth to someone that that's eventually they're gonna that's when they're back against the wall. That's what

they're going to come back with. Well why would they lie? And that's why it's important to know why they lie is because they are hiding the creator. And for you, I think your journey was a lot like a lot of other people, as you had to go through a series of other rabbit holes to understand how evil the world was, so you could actually kind of put down your your shield and look into flat Earth because and then you understand

how deceitful heliocentrism is in itself. It is hiding the creator. Yeah. That and and you know, on a on a day to day level, you know, hiding the potential of free energy. So oh, you imagine if free energy, none of us would have to do it. Here's this and we wore the slaves to society, right, yeah, exactly, Yeah, And that's that's that's one of one of one of the Yeah, the big ones really is that they create a hiding the creator, making you believe

that you are insignificant. Uh you know bind free space. That that that to me is you know you talk about the Silver Bullets and of another podcast. That that, to me is was one of the key things was understanding the heliocentric model. Once I understood what we're supposed to be doing, I was like, that's not going on. I don't care what anyone says. That is. That is not That is not going on. So that that to me is you you want to really you want to really understand understand the

helio centric model. That's right. Numbers, Yeah, somebody of us blindly defended helio centrism, including me, and I'm sure you and so many other people. But then again then you start to ask the questions, well, how many miles is to side away? Well, I don't know, I don't know. So it really goes to show the amount of effort they put into these psychological operations that people will just blindly defend it without even looking into

it. So again, like you said, once you truly understand what heliocentrium is supposed to be about, right, how you know the Earth's gravitational pool is so great it can hold trillions of tons of water, but a butterfly in a balloon could just float right up with the problem. It just doesn't make any sense at all. And at some point you have to trust yourself. And going back to COVID and the guy in the white lab coat, he's got a name, so you got to listen to him because he went

to college, so you better get that vaccine. No, these people are salesmen, just like you said. You had all the doctor and by the way, I went to the VA and the minute I turned down the vaccine, they treated me like crap. I remember you said on the previous Oh yeah, and my wife too. They made her wear two masks at work. It was just they were literally wrestling people to the mat to try to get them to submit and bow at the altar of a big pharmaceutical. Absolutely,

yeah, I mean yeah, I go. I'll go kicked out of a pharmacy. Went up to pick up some grain tablets for my missus and I wasn't wearing a mask and they kicked me out. Well, they kicked me out because a lady kicked off that I wasn't wearing a mask, and I said, I'm getting my I actually managed to get the tablets, but then they walked me out because that was quite But I was like, you mean you're talking to man. I don't miss those days what I And you

mentioned Mother's Day. I specifically remember going to my mom's house on Mother's Day and she had it was me and my sisters, so she had a lawn chair. Here like six feet away was another chair like she made this is your circle for us all sit on, and it was just thinking back, it is so cringe man. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, yeah, but you know we've you know, you're saying, like you know, some people say it for me. For me, the flat Earth was was not that

hard really because space stuff never never resonated with me. So I've never seen Star Wars really and never seen it, and I don't I don't really like that sort of spacey stuff. I think I've seen Star Trek in the film before at the Imax and a few episodes are growing up, but Star Wars never never appealed to me. And I always used to have these like boughts in my head, like you know, these far away these stars, you know, aliens traveling on space craft and then landing Roswell in America. All

places, Yeah, well let's pick America. All the places we can land in the world, we'll go to the one with the biggest entertainment industry, right, you know. So I had all these kind of questions and even had a TV show here in the UK called I've Never Seen Star Wars and there was people going on there and saying about stuff that they've have never done.

Really yeah, so so yeah for me, the you know, the the space thing, I was like nah and so so yeah, so what Once once I true, Like, like I said, once I truly understood

the hediocentric model. Realized that especially one of the one of the things that they by says is is you know how the closest star is, you know, just twenty five miles away and it takes fight one thousand years just to get one twenty fifth of the way that if you were going out a mile per second, and you know that that that's yeah, it's just it's crazy. And then and then having a drone, and another one of at silver Bullets is having a drone, I was able to go to go back and

look at my footage and there was. There's one particular example I've got is a place called Paul on the south coast here and I took the drone up at one hundred and twenty meters and the sunris is coming on and at the back the back of the you know it in the vision you've got the sun coming up and you can see the Isle of Wight. So the Isle of Wight is an island at the bottom of the UK and at the back of the Isle of White is a hill which is about similar high one hundred and

twenty meters. So on this picture the back of the Isle of Wight is on the horizon. It's you know, it's a hige level to the drone. Now checked the distances to that and it's about thirty five miles. So then went on the curvature calculator and checked, you know, how much curvature they should have been at thirty five miles and I can't remember the number, but it's a lot like and it was clearly not doing that. So,

you know, seeing seeing too far. You know, when I'm when I'm driving around now, there's certain points in Oxfordshire where there's a there's a power station here and you can see that power station for miles at certain points it's like twenty miles away, and it's it's at your eye level. It's at the horizon at certain points where you're driving around. And yeah, like just just that really, just just just paying attention to your surroundings and and everything.

It's just you know, the constellations as well. You know. I never used to pay attention to the moon or the sun or anything really, you know. And I'm like I said, I regret this because I've lived in some amazing places. I've lived in Milford Sound in New Zealand, which is I don't know if you've heard of it, but it's one of the top tourist destinations in New Zealand. Is that where they did the Lord of the Rings? Yeah, yeah, faint they were, they were they were

filming there. I've never seen allD of the Rings either, but they were filmed. They were filming. I've never seen a report a Lord of the Rings or stars. But I'm now I'm now kind of attempted just to decode it. Yeah, there's a lot of movies worth watching just for the symbols and numbers. Yeah, yeah, And I would watch a decode of these films, if it if there was one out there, like just to see what what what what's being talked about in these films, which I'm sure that

there's got to be something in there. But yeah, so like you know, you know, living living in these places, you know, you know, I used to be able to see the stars, you know, it's like really bright, but never really paid attention to the constellations. But but now I do. And you know, like the the plow and we're going back to when I moved house that the plower is directly over my garage and I checked it the next year and it was directly over my garage and exactly

the same spot. And yeah, it's just that's that's it really is, like, you know, just pay attention and and feel like and feel like peace for that ease, and trust yourself, trust what you see and trust what you feel. Don't let people tell you what you should be seeing and what you should be feeling. Now that I look white. That that's down by Portsmouth by the English channel, right, that's right, and that's where

David ik is from lives. Oh really okay, because I think as far as conspiracies go, as well, I think if you look at the research there's supposedly a lot of dinosaur bones there as well. The old Well, yeah, there's the Jurassic Coast. Yeah, in Dorset. So yeah, it's one of my favorite spots in England is Dorset, Dorset, Devon and Cornwall Joel like in the south southwest. And yeah, there's a place called

the Jurassic Coast. So obviously we've got into the dinosaur he now because and and yeah, this is one thing I need to mention this, like like when you've got a young child, right, and I learned about all this, you know, the stuff with what's going on with the darkness, and then and then learning about you know, like so I was I was like anti Disney, so I canceled Netflix in twenty twenty. You know, I canceled Netflix because they had that QTS. Oh yeah, that was abhorrent.

Good agreed. Yeah, the trailer came up on well you know, it was on Netflix. The trailer came out, and watched it. I was like, what the what is this? So yeah, I canceled that. And then obviously finding out about Disney and he's a fairy third degree Mason, and I was like, you know, no, no, more Disney, no more Netflix, no more Amazon, all canceled. That was all in

twenty twenty. And then you know, waking up to flat Earth and and what you what you notice is every toy shop, every post office, everything that's got anything to do with children. It's dinosaurs, space unicorns. That's right, unicorns. My daughter, she loves it. I've kind of accepted that, and I've not decided to go down any rabbit holes regarding unicorns, whatever that may be. I think it's out of the transgender agenda. But kind I've I've chose to ignore it. Otherwise I'm going to go crazy.

But you know, I've got nephews, and you know, space dinosaurs, space dinosaurs. It's everywhere, everywhere. And I'm sure you've noticed this, and she probably talked about it as well, yep, but it's yeah, it's just everywhere. And uh and like you know, watching the some of the some of the click some of the cartoons like Bluey and all of this kind of stuff. Every now and then you'll get like a space episode and

or a dinosaur episode. And I'm thinking of all, you know, of all the things that are going on in the world with living creatures, like elepherns that are amazing and that why are we talking about dinosaurs? You know, and you look at one of the biggest movies of the nineties. It was Toy Story and that included everything that you just mentioned. It had a buzz light year right to infinity and beyond, it had the dinosaur was one of the primary characters. So yeah, it's a great observation. Yeah.

Yeah, and Jurassic Park as well, which is you know, I made a comeback and he's making a fat Jurassic Park. So yeah, it's it's it's crazy. And once once you uh, you know, your eyes are open and you just see you see right for everything? See, yeah, you do, you do. Uh. We got about ten minutes left. I want to run through a few quick questions and I'll I'll still give you an opportunity that I've written down. During the course of our conversation, you

had mentioned, uh, the seven seven bombings. Have you ever gone down that rabbit hole? I haven't, to be honest, I haven't. I feel I feel like I should now because I was. I felt like I was kind of hardly involved in it, you know, the people that had actually seeing what had happened, But no, I'm sure it's manufactured. Yeah, it's a pretty good and the data alone the seven seven, which is you know anything that has eleven to twenty two thirty three like JFK twenty two

thirty you know eleven twenty two. I'll send you some links later on today that you might find interesting. Yeah. Great, Yeah, So you had mentioned how fast you were going through the rabbit hole one hundred miles an hour and twenty Yeah, one hundred and twenty miles an hour person sectally, But

how did how did you discern what info was? Because listen, in the truth community, there's a lot of great information out there, but there's also a lot of stuff that you know, maybe the question how did you discern as you were flying through the rabbit hole? You know, what you felt was true and what wasn't. That's a great question because initially, when I when I first started looking at everything, everything that was looking at was was

making sense. And it was also a point where there was not much censorship going on at that particular time, so things were staying up. I remember that the doctors that got canceled on in California, I can't remember. There's two doctors that they were saying sort of stuff, and I was like,

and that stayed up there there for a while. So at that particular time, you know, May and June of twenty twenty, the information when it was coming to COVID and everything, you know, I was able to find Facebook groups that were sharing the same thing, and I was actually going to

the source and finding the stuff myself. But then, you know, as time went on, and you know, like JFK Junior, these kind of stories Michael Jackson being alive and all of this kind of stuff, as time went on, I you know, I don't know, I can't rule it out, but it's unlikely for me now. But there was a time where I thought, you know, this, this, this is this, this could this whole drama that's going on could be for you know, the Great

Awakening, which was the Q saying. And you know, one thing I could say is, however way you look at it, you know, people might look at my story and think you're an idiot, You've you believed all that stuff, you thought all of this. I was like, yeah, we all got played in some way, shape or form. I didn't take three, four, five or six jabs. I didn't wear masks, for two years. I didn't stop enjoying my family or isolating in the same house

for ten days. Yes, I went down rabbit holes that might have been untrue, but there's a lot of truth in the stuff that I've seen, and over time I've learned. Okay, you know, especially after going into hospital, you know, I feel the information well and learning that the Earth is flat, stationary, topographical level, plane created system. All the political noise that's going on is at all distractions. Yeah, you know, and you can choose to follow that to say, you know, it's it's important

to be aware of it, and I am aware of it. I know that the CBDC is on the horizon. I know all of this stuff. I already know all of this stuff. I don't need to be consumed by it anymore. So Yeah, just like yeah, discerning information, I'm just I like looking at positive things. I'm aware that it could go a couple of ways, two or three ways. You know, we could end up living in the perfect world, or it could get dark. But I believe

humanity is very strong and there's a lot of us. Now, let's see, for all of this, we are creating a different idea about how we live and you know what's going on, and you do a lot of homesteading. Luckily, we've got a vegetable patch in our garden and we've tried it. We don't have the same weather though, and we have chemtrail controlled whether here that you go. We get spread almost every day here and it's pretty bad, so it's hard. It's hard to grow food outside. But yeah,

it's just for me. For me, it's being aware of everything, knowing that we are living in the create system, knowing that the creators got our back. And you know, I've just even connecting with you. I think I just went on the podcast types in flat Earth and Funmamental podcast came up and mentioning your name, and then I found your your podcast and I

listened to every single whatever and then yeah, all in order exactly. Because I'm a private high drive a taxi driver, I've got lots of time on my hands when I'm not with a passenger, so I'm able to listen to the podcast. And yeah, you know, by the fourteenth fifteen sixteenth episode, I was I need, I need, I need to get on there

and have a chat with you. So yeah, it's uh, you know, and share my story because I know that there's not many from the UK that have been on if any ever there, there's been I think one or two. But yeah, it's it's We've had a lot from Canada, We've had a few from Australia, obviously a lot from the States. But I think you might be the second. And he may have actually, you know what, actually been a UK guy living in Australia or something like that.

Yeah, yeah, I just I just really wanted to get on there and and you know, talk about my experience, you know, because it was, like you said, on the front line with the lockdown marches and you know, the networking I've done, you know, you know I met you the cake Shimarani, you know she she was interviewed by David Bis recently. I've met all these people. It's crazy because like all these all these people that are on YouTube in the truth, I've certainly the UK ones, I've

met them, seen them, had the loads of them. It's it's it's amazing. Like you know, I went to a flat earth conference in Birmingham and Martin lead Key was there. Allegedly Dave was in front of me and I didn't didn't actually speak to Dave Dave Murphy. He was, he was on the table in front of me, and I was probably nervous because I'm what, I'm quite outgoing in certain situations, can be quite shy or you know, step back and yeah, you know, I'm not I'm not really

the tire yea, how you doing all the time? So yeah, but I bit, I've met, I've met, I've met all the people that are at the forefront of of you know, being visible on YouTube and everything, and so it's it's not just like an online thing for me. It's it's it's like it is online, but it's reality for me as well.

And like I said, because of the experience that people have met and what what what you know, the activism, Yeah, I think it was a reason why I wanted to share that the UK side of things and my flat journey. Yeah, you you let it out incredibly well that the entire path from you know, nine to eleven all the way up to just recently. And the last question that I want to kind of end on is how important

is local activism? Right? We are many of us. We do podcasts, YouTube videos and things like that, but to the audience, how important is local activism. I think the direction which twenty twenty one took, so it was all the big London marches, and I think collectively or subconsciously that Freedom movement decided to do more local activism. So in the end, the

rebels and roundabouts, the stand in the parks. It was across the UK and Australia and other countries, but here, like every corner of the UK was being covered, so like people were driving past the yellow boards in all kinds of obscure places, and I think that local activism. Then we don't we can't know the numbers, but I'm sure that helped wake up a lot

of other people. They might have like dabbled on the internet. All of a sudden they're driving in the car and they see yellow boarder and I researched that a minute ago. So all that kind of you know, activism, I'm sure stopped. The lockdowns are in the UK of February twenty twenty two,

and people are certainly more aware of it. Passengers I have in the car, I can work out the people who are in a different mindset, and I've had some great conversations with some of these passengers, and I've had people that have admitted they got played and they have been vaccine injured and everything, and they said that I wish I'd listened to my conspiracy variest brother or brother in law or whatever, you know. So I've had people saying that.

So yeah, I think local activism is very important. And yeah, if if you're on a you know, an act in local groups and then

and there truth seeking type of people. I think they're the people that you can wake up to flat earth because I think once you totally see where you are, what you are, and who you are, then that then you can then focus attention on on on creating a better world rather than being amongst all the fear you know, like you know, I mean all this stuff that is Ukraine and there Israel that takes a big chunk of the truth seeking type people you know that are on the right path mentally, but it takes

their energy away and it goes a bad negativity again. So if you could say, look, I'm not playing that game either, and you know, like we can start creating communities, start looking at growing food. I mean, I'm a bit envious of America because you have more options to do this kind of stuff. You can just Yeah, if you want to change your life in the usually can just go and find another state, go and find a landscape or a society that suits you, and you can do that.

It's a bit tougher in the UK. We're a small little place and it's very expensive to live here. So yeah, but I feel like even in the UK, I know people around that are on this kind of kind of thing. If it was to go really dark for a while, yeah, and I think like they did with a lot downs, I think they will introduce the CBDC YEP and they'll be pushback. We're ready to roll again. They'll be five to ten fifteen million people that will say no, we're not

having that in this country, so bring on. There will be pushback, and that's what we need to do because that will be the ultimate. Again, that's a direct correlation to revelations that that involves buying and selling, So they're better be pushback. It's been a wonderful interview. You've brought so much to the table. There'll be a lot in the show notes, but before we go, give you the last word and you can let people know about your mixed cloud and your Facebook, which will be in the show. As

well. Yeah, so in that time as well, I've kind of got back into djane So if people want to follow me on my DJ page or play house music old school house, hard house, which is probably a bit hard for most people, and the trance music. And yeah, he used the DJ and ibi for and I kind of made a bit of a comeback. So I'm playing a Freedom Festival in July, No, No, August twenty twenty four. I'm playing at the Sounds Beautiful Festival in May twenty twenty

four. And he's all truth seeking out festivals. So Danny Rampling, Mark Devlin is playing at the Freedom Festival. David Ike was there last year. Yeah, so yeah, follow me I mixed cloud that the link will be in the show description and also the Facebook page. And if there are any flat Earth filmmakers in the US that wants to work with a drone pilot, I'm a flat Earth drone pilot. I'll be more than happy to team up with you for any documentaries and feel free to contact me on the email that's

provided. It's a Broton email. And yeah, I'm happy to discuss anything ready at anyone and anyone that wants to have a reach out in the UK, US wherever. I'm well done, and we do have a lot of folks in the production video production industry. You'll listen and email me quite often. So again, his information eighties information will be in the show description, his email, his mixed cloud, his Facebook and let's get more folks from the UK and around the world on the podcast. Again, we've had a

lot of Canadians, Americans, Australians. I'd love to hear from folks around the world. My schedule is flexible. I got up one time at midnight to do an interview. Whatever it takes to get the voices out there, let's do it. And again, ad, I appreciate your time and you know, opening people's eyes and the truth and getting out on the streets and making a difference. You know, kudos to you for everything you've done. Brother, So thank you for your time. I greatly appreciate it. No,

thank you, George. And yeah, hopefully I didn't waffle on too much. There's a there's a lot of things that I've been going on, so it's hot to structure everything in detail a bit. Yeah, hopefully you know, you know asleep, Oh no, maybe you are not at all any folks. I've got like twenty tabs for the show notes. So if you guys want to learn more about Joseph Gregory Hallett and the University of Pennsylvania, I have I found that link while we were talking, and many others,

So take the time to do the research. Not not only that the seven seven, by the Way bombings, but from folks down in Australia. Take a look at what happened in April of nineteen ninety six, which was the reason why Australia really lost all their guns. There's a lot more to that than meets the eye as well, So as we say, keep your head on a swivel. So again, thanks to AD, thanks to all the listeners. I think this might be the last podcast of the year.

If it is, I wish you well and we'll see you in twenty twenty four and we'll be doing this more often and better than ever. So again for AD and myself, God bless you all, keep your head on a swivel. And until the next time we meet my friends, we will see it. I know it's been a struggle. I don't know you've had Spain. I know you feel tied hell down all the way. Yeah, I know you feeling are you smile? Ain't the same? I saw way go farm? You feel like you've lost your way? Don't give up. No,

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