Episode 126: Flat Earth Conversation with Alex

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The volume has been up a little bit lately, so and thank you all for reaching out in the conwords, et cetera. So, without any further Ado, let's get to today's show again. Joining us from Alberta, Canada is Alex. Alex How are you doing today? Pretty good? Thanks? How are you doing great? Doing great. We had a little bit of a flood here yesterday. I think we got an inch and a half of rain and then it turned into snow this morning. So it's been interesting

weather wise here. But other than that, I can't complain. I hope all as well north of the border up there, For you, it is. Yeah, we had a dump of snow recently, but it's just been another winter, like always, a little warmer this year. Boat. Oh good, good, good. So why don't you go ahead and introduce yourself to the audience. So I'm Alex. I'm thirty four years old. I live alone in a small town just outside of Edmonton, and I grew up

in Vancouver, BC. And presently I work in the railway industry, and I have a half sibling that's currently living in the US. Growing up, I always felt like a black sheep. I always felt like there was something wrong with the world and that I never really fit in it anywhere. But again, I kind of know better now, I kind of see what's going on. Growing up, I used to be a metal head. I went to a lot of concerts and everything for a solid decade. But then when

this cabdemic hit, it kind of changed everything for me. So and I went through a stage of depression about how people used to make fun of me for the music I listened to and everything. But again, I've changed a lot, least lately, and everything's just starting to make sense, and I'm I'm growing to appreciate who I am and how God made me, because he doesn't make any mistakes, that's right. And you know, there's eight billion people, or at least so they say, and we're all unique. There's

not two people that are like what, what particular type of music? Were you? Like a slip knot guy or all over the place Georgia, Yeah, slipknot. I got into the really heavy, crazy stuff everything. And now I kind of, like I said, I've been steering away from all that stuff and I've been opening up to other music and everything good. But yeah, there's plenty of it, that's for sure, And there's even still to this day good music being made. You just have to find it.

The stuff they promote is trash that we know, but there is decent music out there. So you said, growing up, you were kind of the black shoot of the family. And I think a lot of people who have been on the podcast or listen to the podcast kind of have gone through that same type of thing. So basically, from the get go, you saw the world differently than most people. So I have a bit of a story, and I'd like to kind of rewind back to a lot of key points

in my life. But I kind of woke up to conspiracies and everything probably around two thousand and nine, okay, but prior to that. And here's something very interesting. So, like my memory is strange, Like I'll forget what he had for lunch yesterday, but then I'll remember very specific events and conversations I've had from like two decades ago. There's one in PARTICU Killer I'd like to bring up. Yeah, go ahead, I'm the same weight,

by the way, go ahead and share that with us. Yeah. So, at around the age of eleven or twelve, give her take, I was in a conversation with my sister, and she's only a couple of years older than you, mind you, and she I clearly remember her saying I can't remember how the conversation went, but she basically said that she doesn't believe that we ever went to the Moon, and then she also said that we never probably never been to space either, And it's just the strangest thing because

we've never move into anything. We've never heard of flat Earth, we never even heard of, you know, conspiracies involving the Pike moon landing or anything. So it's just I find it interesting that I remember that particular conversation, and the way I see it, it's almost as if the Higher Power is working within me and has been guiding me to the truth for longer than I

realize. So in essence, that seed was planted in your head many many years ago, so when he did broach the subject, maybe you wasn't You wouldn't just pooh pooh it so quickly, right, Yeah, that's that's really interesting. You want to kind of lay out that timeline that you were talking about, kind of your your journey to the truth. Yeah, So flash

forward to around two thousand and nine. I was just with a group of friends and they were having a conversation about the Illuminati and the New World Order, and this is my first time hearing about this, which opened up a whole new world for me. It was from that point onward that I started picking up on things researching, watching videos, et cetera. And over the course of the next decade, I started looking into all kinds of things like

Denvery Airport conspiracy, one eye symbolism in Hollywood. I grew up going to the movies a lot. My dad as a kid would always take me to see a movie like almost every weekend. And I continued that trend throughout last day, and I started noticing like almost every movie poster showing like half of

a person's face with one eye. And then I also looked into things like the Bohemian growth conspiracy, dark set of Disney, Halien cover ups, subliminal messaging, and movies and music, you know, like led Zeppelin, Sterway to Heaven, playing that backwards Yep, stuff like that and so on and so. Prior to researching flat Earth, there was always something that bothered me about helio centrism and the New World Order conspiracies. They just didn't really mesh

very well to me. But before ever hearing about flat Earth, I just couldn't pinpoint wide so like, you have a huge deception on a grand worldwide scale. What are the odds that an event this elaborate, in this biblical would happen on this particular planet when we're told we're just a grain of sand out of all the billions of other planets out there, right, Like, but of course I never knew about flatter so I just couldn't put two and two together, you know, right, right, So it would have me

wonder, you know, what might be happening on other planets. But again, like I said, but if you think about it, and you think about what the purpose of helio centrism is, it's the trick us that into believing we're not at the center of creation and we're not special, right, And in my opinion, this New World Order agenda wouldn't happen if we're not special. And when you really dive into every rabbit hole out there, none of them truly makes sense until you place them in the geocentric model. So

geocentitrism really is the granddaddy of all conspiracies. Like you say, it is a center of everything, It is a center of creation, and it is a center that connects all the dots together. But again, I have not realized this until I actually dove into flatters. And one would you say, what year was it that you started to dive into flat Earth? So it really hit me about the year and a half to two years ago, give or take. But it all started when I started the job that I'm currently

at in twenty sixteen. There were a couple of individuals at my work that believed in it, and the crew I was with would always gossip about them, make fun of them, call flatters ridiculous all that. I didn't really have anything to say. I didn't really join in, but instead I had gearist turning in my head, thinking like, what is this flat Earth? And like most people, I had that stereototype vision in my head, thinking, you know, like of a flat earth pancake floating in outer space with

a Christopher Columbus style saleship falling off the edge. But yeah, a compassionate side of me didn't like the idea of others being made fun of over a belief because because I grew up, And I was just gonna say, because

that's something you dealt with growing up, right, Yeah exactly. I mean I grew up learning that we don't make fun of others no matter what they look like, what they believe in, even if you think it's ridiculous, it's just plain wrong, right, Just let people live their life without judgment. So so yeah, I searched up flat Earth and came across force the flatter society talking about all that upwards acceleration nonsense. Thought it was kind of

silly, and I ended it there for the time being. I thought, maybe there's more to this, but I'm just not sure about it. But then came the scamdemic, and that's quite a story for me. The events of the last four years have been very interesting, to say the least. I guess the word to describe it would be like coincidental. I'll explain it and you'll see what I mean. Okay, I just put a coin in

the jar for you. Go ahead and tell us a little bit about that journey through COVID, which once again I mean that, whether intentional or not, woke up so many people over the last several years. And it's again it's kind of a blessing in disguise that you know, while it did make a mess of a lot of people's lives, it woke a lot of people up too, and it may have very well ended up saving a lot of

lives and souls as well. Ah. Yes, indeed, so in my case, I actually started the scamdemic, as I like to call it. In March of twenty twenty, I was on vacation in Florida. I left there before what was the date, Was it March eleventh that it started? Yep, March eleventh, there's your thirty three. Yeah. Yeah, So I left for Florida before that date. I think it was like maybe March six or seventh or something, and I went to go visit my sister who

was living out there. We spent ten days together just kind of catching up and everything. She showed me around a few places where she lived, and here's where it guests. Interesting. So we decided to do a day trip to the Kennedy Space Center. We saw the elaborate presentations the tours, saw famous ships and rockets on display, like the Space Shuttle and the Lunar Lander. I guess it was a replica of it, but same thing pretty much, and we thought it was amazing. But little did we know at the

time it was all one big lie. And after that we went to Universal Studios Orlando. And when you first get there, what do you see? You see a massive round ball Earth with those big words Universal Studios. That's right, and yeah, like what more? Could I say, I mean again, little did we know at the time the truth about you know, that kind of doctrination we see in movies and everything. Yeah, there's some

liminal messaging and some of it is so subtle. And even keeping in with the Disney narrative, when you walk into Epcot, what do you see? You see that huge ball right at that giant globe looking ball. It's always there, no matter where you look. Yeah, exactly. So that was that I made it, made it back home safe. And then the next year, in twenty twenty one, in the summertime, I went on a road trip to a few places here in Alberta. You may or may not

have heard of them. The first place is called Drumheller, and Drumheller is famous for being kind of like a dinosaur town, and there you'll find life sized dinosaur statues on display throughout the town. There's even like a huge t rex. He can go inside and stand on the balcony in side of its mouth. And then there's also a dinosaur fossil museum called the Royal Tyrrell Museum,

so I check that out. And then there's also another place called Dinosaur Provincial Park or they have fossils at the original big sites you can go look at. And once again, little did I know at the time the lies about evolution and dinosaurs. And here here's a funny thing. I don't know. I can't remember if this has been brought up before, But when did

they tell us dinosaurs went extinct sixty six million years ago? So there's your six six Oh, I'd never even noticed that, right, So yeah, And with all the events of the scandemic, I started to read Bible. I also created a Spotify account, started listening to podcasts, and at this point I still haven't come across splad Earth yet, and so I would get into all kind of kinds of conspiracies, and I'd try to piece everything together

with heliocentrism in mind still because I didn't know better. So I would ask questions like, was Jesus actually like an Adunaki from another planet coming to return soon? Did the flood happen because of a near collision with another planet? How do aliens fit in the Bible? And I was asking all these kinds of questions, and I was just looking for the answers in the wrong places. Then around the beginning of last year, thinking this pandemic changed my life

a lot. Already, I was about to answer the next level of awareness when I came across a post on Facebook it and this post basically explained all the math involved in calculating the physics of the Earth and Moon, the speed of sound, et cetera, all multiplications of six. You had a guest on here a while back that really knocked it out of the park with this

one. But I thought, yeah, right, no way. So I did a little bit of research on me and Trinette pulled out a calculator, and I found out that all this is true true, And it was at that very moment my perception of reality took a pivotal turn towards researching flatters. And then, of course, once you start to go down the rabbit holes to try to disprove it, it doesn't take very long to realize that you've been had all your life with the globe theory. Yeah, and but in

my case, it wasn't me trying to disprove it. It was me trying to connect some dots because prior to this, of seeing all these numbers involved, I was already looking into simple asm way. Can name a few examples like sixty sixty six in the Monster Energy drink logo. You turn a bottle of mine, he can be er upside down. You see six sixty six with an inverted pentagram six sixty six hidden in the Google Chrome logo. Yep, which, by the way, Google uses at GPU to power their software

called a drenal. Really yeah, don't quote me on this, but look it up if it the the software is created by a different company, but Google has ties to it somehow. But so, yeah, you have a drino and then you have the browser Chrome. I don't want to put in a rabbit hole because uh no, sure, sure yeah, but so real quickly while you're on that, it's it was designed by Qualcomm in two thousand and nine. But yeah, it's called a drino and it is linked to

uh to Chrome. That is interesting. I'll have to look and look all the numbers involved with it. It was actually used in the Xbox three sixty console as well, right, yeah, yeah, it's interesting. So anyways, like I was aware of all these numbers and everything, and even even like Donald Trunk, for example, I've noticed him flash you know, the sixty sixty six handjes, I've seen him do that a lot. Sure, Yeah, I've seen I've seen Elon Musk do it and celebrities using that gesture

how they put their hand ups down and cover one eye. You've probably seen that, oh one hundred percent. And I'm glad you brought that up because all the talk in the media today is, you know, the interview with Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones, and I forget either when they first started or as they signed off, they gave each other the Freemason handshake with the extended index finger. Yeah. I kind of figured as much. I liked Tucker

Carlson for a while, but I never I was always suspicious. Yeah, I think once again, this guy has chosen to be on Team Good, just like in wrestling, and they use him for disclosure. But again, they're gatekeepers. They're not going to give you the whole truth. They're going to give you partial truths. Right. Yeah. So there's that and then and not just with six sixty six, but I've also know where to sit with the number three three, Like you know, if you take the CNN

logo tilted sideways, you see thirty three yep. And then if you go to your Google Maps and you go to Washington District Capital and you look at the wayout of the streets, you'll see an inverted pentagram. I don't know if you've noticed that before. Which one was that? Now? So if you go, like go to Google maps and go to downtown Washington District Capital or the White Houses, and if you follow the streets or sorry, of

the patterns of the streets, you can see an inverted pentagram. Yeah now, but yeah, yeah, for sure much of Washington d C. If you if you look at it from an elevated view, it actually the whole wayout looks like an owl, which is kind of a shout out to Moloch. Huh. I didn't notice that, but uh, yeah, I did notice the pentagram. And then of course there's the pentagon yep, yep, and and then there's the uh the Washington Monument, which I noticed that in

inches, it's exactly six six hundred and sixty inches yep. So I noticed that, And I mean, come on, it's a it's a what do you call it monolith obelisk or you can call it. Sorry, yeah, it's it's an obelisk. Like like, come on, like put it together, right, Yeah, I'm I'm on that map. Now, you're right, that is kind of I don't think i've seen that before, where that

particular streets set of streets are in a pentagram. Yeah, it's just funny you have all these like and it goes on and on and on these coincidences. Yep. But my point, all this awareness of numbers, basically it had me thinking there was something suspicious about the heliocentric math questions or equation. Sorry, And eventually I became cure enough to search up flat Earth on rumble. I much prefer using that over YouTube for obvious reasons, and I came

across a documentary called Impossible. I don't know if you've seen that one, Yep, sure have. So that was the first one that I watched, and that blew my mind. And after watching that, I was just overwhelmed with excitement. I just found the biggest game changer of my entire life, and everything I researched prior to that started to make a lot of sense. So I spent the next several days trying to find everything I could on flat

ear if I listened to podcasts, video clips, et cetera. But I didn't find a whole lot and it kind of felt like Flat Earth content was lacking. But I can't remember how I found it. I think it just came up in my search results, but I found your podcast. Listen to the first few episodes and it was instantly hooked. You're well spoken, polite, relaxing to listen to, and you give many guests the great opportunity to or their stories. And I just want to say thank you and think thank

you to every single guest that's been on here. Everyone has had something, something really good to bring to the table. Yeah. Absolutely, and again it's a it's a typic tip of the cap to the people who come on here. And it's a lot to come out here and open up to, you know, people around the world. It takes a lot, and you know, I really tip my cap to to everyone who has come on the

podcast and to everyone who come on in the future. For many people it's the first time that they've ever done anything like this, and you know, everybody does such an extraordinary job. And again we learn at least I have learned at least something from every single guest. So whether you agree with them or not, if you come away with something new and helps you connect another dot, then that's positive for sure, and that's kind of what I'm hoping

to achieve. I'm just doing this because if I could just wake one person up, then I feel like I've done something that's right because more than likely that person will wake someone up and it becomes a domino effect. That's how that's how we win, right. And also your podcast linked me to a lot of other things like the Level documentary series, David Weiss's app YEP and much more. So again, thank you, yeah, thank you. I appreciate it. So have you heard of someone by he calls myself Josh Monday?

Josh Monday? Is that the That's not the lunch break guy, is it. He's just a fella I found on YouTube or storring on YouTube on Spotify, and he does podcasts and he he talks a lot about flat Earth from like a biblical point of view. Okay, so I was listening to him and he points out a lot of good things involving flat Earth in the Bible and numbers in creation and everything. So I kind of wanted to go over that for sure a little bit. So if you read Genesis, starting

from chapter one, it goes over the creation of each day. So the first day is the creation of light from darkness, and the word good appears once in the first day, referring to the light. The second day is the creation of the firmament, which separates the waters above from the waters below. And something interesting to note is that the word good does not appear in the second day, and his analogy is that maybe it's because the firmament separates

us from God in heaven. Possibly. And then you move on to the third day, dry land appears, creating the earth and the seas as well as the seating of the land, basically bringing vegetation right yep. And then that verse does note that it was good yeah, and then it says it was good good yep. And then the fourth day creation of the sun and the moon to rule the day and the night, and the word good appears

once, referring to these two lights. Sure does. And then you go into the fifth day of creation, and it's basically everything that wies or swims, birds and fish, so you have life in the waters and in the air, and the word good again appears once referring to the creation of these forms of life. And then you move on to the sixth day, basically creation of all living things on dry land, cattle, I think it says, and also the creation of humans, and the word good appears twice,

referring to all living creatures on dry land as well as humans. And something I found interesting is that mankind is created on the sixth day, right, And then if you go to Revelation thirteen, verse eighteen talks about the number of the beasts also being the number of men six, right, that's right, So I thought that was interesting. And then of course, then there's

a seventh day, which God rested from his creation. So and if you count how many times in the word good appeared seven times, the word good appears seven times, and there's also also seven days in creation. And is it just a coincidence that seven rhymes with heaven? That's interesting. So there's

that. And then so what I'm getting from this is six is associated with the devil and seven is God. And God is perfect, the devil is imperfect, and the devil will try to take over the rule of God and will seem to come close, but will ultimately fail because six is just one short of heaven. Storry up seven. So there's that analogy. That's a good analogy, and that's I'm glad you're discussing this because hopefully by the time

that this podcast is released, I would have already done. I'm doing a podcast kind of breaking down the occult numbers, numerology, a little bit of jamatria, that type of thing, because we've talked about it over the last year often, but many people may not actually know what the thirty three means, what the six sixty six and the sixes and all that means. So number one, you've done a great job breaking that down and I've never heard

that analogy so well done well for sure. And another thing I I also noticed, I'm sure a lot of people have noticed them all. There's seven stripes in the Bible, and then there's then you have the Pride Flake, which only has six stripes. I have thoughts and all that stuff, but I don't I don't really want to get into that on this podcast. But there's that. And then finally, there's one thing that's always bothering me, and it's the fact that there's exactly sixty six Bibles books of the Bible.

Yeah, exactly the reason why could be argued. I don't have the answer to that, but I always have been wondering why, what are your thoughts on that that. That's something I've broached many times. That's like, you know, would have been perfect if there was sixty seven, because that would be basically good against evil, because I've always looked at the number six as

a dark number, not not standalone. Right, you know, you know it's your sixth birthday, that you know you're evil for a year, but just the way in which it's used and seven is reflected on as a positive, and basically the Bible is basically you know, good against evil. Right. Interesting? Yeah, But so for the reason that that's always you know, that's a question we'll never know because this is something that was you know, the Bible has been canon I so long ago. We'll never know the

truth. But I always thought that was kind of interesting too when you look at Revelations, what was it thirteen eighteen where it talks about the six sixty six, and yeah, hell uh, there's exactly that many books of the Bible, right, So I do have one theory, but again I don't know if it's if this is what it is or not. But they've also hidden lots of other books and everything, so maybe there's other books that piece

things together further, sure, such as Book of Enoch or something. Yeah, Joe Beleeese Mcaree's all those and maybe they took those books out to get it down to that number for whatever reason. I don't know, but that's one theory possibly. And what the answer you'll get is, excuse me, when when the Bible was canonized and you know, was chosen which books were going to be included that there and again this is the official answer that you'll

get. Not but what they'll tell you is there wasn't enough evidence supporting the books at that time, and it wasn't really until the Dead Sea Scrolls that really gave enough evidence for them to justify them being put in the Bible. That's that's the story. But again, man is flawed and nefarious and is

there something darker behind it? I don't know. But again, you know a lot of people have since waking up and realizing that they are going back and looking in the Biblical apocrypha and all the other supporting books, whether it be Enoch, Jubilees, Maccabees and you know all the other ones which are our guy believe a good supporting documents, especially Enoch when it comes to Genesis

for sure. Yeah. So so that's that. Another interesting thing that Josh Monday brought up is that in heliocentrism, they tell us what they tell us the universe is constantly expanding. Therefore, in theory, they are pushing God in Heaven further and further and further away every second, every day. And that's the way I see it is it's almost like a mind control ritual in a way, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I concur with

that one hundred percent. And everything they do, no matter how small or how big, it is to hide God, whether it's the news cycle to keep you distracted, or in many cases, like I've said before, we pay for our own indoctrination with the movies and TV, et cetera. And

because that's really what they are doing. You may think you're watching something harmless, but I guarantee you, even if it's a thirty minute TV program, there's something very subtle in there that that is trying to steer you away from God. Absolutely. And on that note, I did a couple of analogies on a movie and a music video. Okay, so have you ever heard of a movie called Metropolis came out in nineteen twenty seven. Yeah, he's silent. Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, that is actually was done in

Germany during the Weimar Republic. Well really, I didn't go that. Yeah, it sure was, and it shows it's like this big machine and it's basically I think what they're trying to say is like the machines are spitting out people. I remember the part where the guy goes in this big machine's churning and that kind of spits the guy out. It was very ahead of its time. Again, I think, like you said, it's cheese, look gets almost one hundred years old now, right, Yeah, it's I just

watched it for the first time a couple of days ago. It is quite the rabbit hole of a movie. It basically like tells the story of a great city built on the hands of slaves, and it shows working class slaves that power the city, living and working underground yep. And there's also a scene in it shows the deity Moloch, but it shows him as like some sort of machine, right, And it shows people entering the mouth of Moloch

to be sacrificed yep. And then it also shows what they call in the movie the New Tower of Babble, which is basically represented as like a modern day skyscraper, and on the top of the tower you see an inverted pentagram. And then it also tells the story of the original Tower of Babbel and how it fell. And there's just a lot of stuff involving the fusing together of man and machine, mystery Babylon, and the rescuing of children from underground.

So basically this movie has a ton of symbolism for sure. It to me it kind of feels like they're trying to show us events to come of the not te future involving the new World order, oh one hundred percent. And it's I don't remember if I watched it on the internet archive or YouTube, but I'll find it and I'll put it in the show notes so people can watch it. And I'll also put the uh the Wikipedia link just for you guys to see the movie poster, which is interesting in itself and again

something that caught my eye. It costs in today's worth, about twenty one million dollars to make, and this is during a time when money was not, you know, too easy to come by. But again, it went on to be a big movie and it had again, like you said, a lot of symbology in it, a whole lot, absolutely, yeah, and they put it in everything. And I also wanted to go over a music video analogy that I did, Okay, and I I I seen this

music video and I piece this together. This was way before I ever found out about flat Earth, probably I'm gonna say, like probably eight years ago. But there's this music video by an artist named Ketsha and it's called Die Young. And if you watch this video, it's just it's ridiculous how how much symbolism is in there. You see the all seeing eye, the skull and bowen symbol, you see upside down crosses and pyramids both upright and and

inverted constantly flashing throughout the video. A pentagram and what a pure be some sort of Satanic ritual of some kind, Holy ken. I mean I could, yeah, I could argue that there is more Satanism packed into this one

video than the entire Slayer catalog. So while you were talking, I just watched the first sixteen seconds of the video and it had the Illuminati eye, the skull and bone's symbol, and then the word evil on the the what's the vehicle that carries the hersirs thank you so just just in the first sixteen seconds. Yeah, and if I'm not mistaken, part of the lyrics, like, there's a section of the lyrics that says, we have the magic

you cannot touch something along those lines. Wow. So it is essentially what I believe they're trying to say is that this type of music is casting spells on its audience by a way of brainwashing and manipulation. And no matter how much you try to warn the listeners who love this type of music, you will be made out to be crazy and they'll just continue on with the indocrination.

You know what's sad is when I'm just kind of scrolling down through the comments just wonder how great the song is and it takes me back to my childhood and it never gets old. Her best song, just on and on and on, and people just can't see the evil within it. Yeah, it's they show it to you. It's right in front of your face. It's so obvious. You just have to you have to find that part inside

you that you need eyes to see. You know, again, if you don't understand the symbology and the numerology, it's going to go right past you and it's going to fool you. And again we when people are done work for the day, they don't want to take the time to do this stuff. They would rather just do things, you know, sit down in front of the TV and drake a cold beer and cold today, which again we

all have to have time out of the rabbit hole. But if you don't really understand this your time on earth, it's a battle of good and evil, and Satan knows the end is there and he's trying to drag as many people down to Hell with him as he can. And his greatest tool,

he has two greatest tools. Number one deceit. Number two believing that he never existed, right, like, not truly understanding that hell is a real place and there's only two places you can go when you die, and that's a real thing, right So yeah, I mean, and that's just one example of many music videos out there that have like this level of ridiculous in your face occultism, Like it's it's just mind boggling how people can see it.

And it's funny, you know. I used to get again, I used to get made fun of for heavy metal that I used to listen to, for being satanic when the very people who would make part of me would listen to stuff like this. But yeah, like if you pick everything apart, whether it's CNN, Disney, MTV again, you'll see truth and disclosure right there, hidden in plain sight. And think of the words that are involved with the television changing the channel broad cast, like casting a spell and

even the word spelling in itself. You can't this bit of a tongue twister, but you can't spell spelling without the word spell. That's right, and then Holly would yep, that's a big one. Many people have touched on that. Yeah, like these are all words that are found in a isn't right on? And I've had many people ask email me for that Jordan Maxwell clip where he really breaks down words and what they really mean for sure.

So there are some other things I wanted to talk about. So I don't know where you want to take this next, but yeah, you hold your note there, because I do want to go back and cover a few things that you had mentioned. Let me go back to my notes here to dinosaurs. Let's talk about dinosaurs everybody while if you have the opportunity, if you're not out like laying block on a scaffold. Go to Google and just put

in dinosaurs in the search engine and then click on news. You know, I never realized that they push as much, if not more, dinosaur news. Then they do space stuff, like if you put in asteroid, you'll get within two days. All these results of asteroid ten point two three came within you know, fourteen million miles of Earth today. You know all that stuff. But there is a lot, an awful lot of propaganda with dinosaurs

to this day, every single day. But it's interesting because, again, like you said, according to depending on what website you go to, some say sixty five, some say sixty six that an asteroid impacted the Earth and dinosaurs became extinct. Well why was it just the dinosaurs and not everything else? That's what I don't get, is there? Did they have an excuse for that? Yeah, I'm I'm not too sure. I actually haven't looked into dinosaurs a whole lot, but I've been I've heard a couple of different

theories out there that the bolones are actually all fake or something. Yeah, I've heard the bones are fake. I've heard some people think it's the nepheline. And then again there are that this is something I've weighed on back and forth. But there are you know, great beasts pre flood that maybe it could be those as well. Yeah, that's what I always kind of lean

towards something like that. But the whole like, if you think about it this way, like they're telling us we're a ball floating in outer space at its four billion years old. Yeah, and to go along with that lie they have to support different ideas like dinosaurs and evolution and that we evolved from

monkeys. And then in order to go along with that theory, they have to support the idea that we have evolved their technology and understanding of the world over the course of human history, when I think it's the other way around, if you're really getting into tartaria and all that, right, right, So, yeah, according but according to this all land animals weighing over twenty five kilograms died out. But for some reason, squirrels lift or whatever.

It's just it's interesting how they pick and choose these things, and they are subject matter experts, and actually, yeah, you're right. This particular article, and this is from the National History Museum dot com does list it as sixty six million years ago, causing all non bird, dinosaurs, and many other animals to die out. So again, this supports dinosaurs, but once again, what does it support heliocentrism? Right? Yeah, you can't have

one without the other. You can't have an asteroid in an enclosed you know, realm like we live in. Yeah, and yeah, just follow the breadcrumbs. Wherever you see that number popping up sixty six, there's probably something

behind it. Oh, one hundred percent. And it's interesting again, it takes me back to pastors who spends six eight years in school if they're getting their doctorate, who can't see through the heliocentric lie, and how they don't understand how nefarious it really is. Yeah, for sure, hundred percent. And then what else did I have? The Denver Airport will touch if we have time. But that's that's a good one too. You had mentioned it,

but I do. I'll let you finish your thoughts, but at some point I want to get back to COVID and how you dealt with it and how it affected you and what was your job pushing it and things like that. But I'll let you go ahead and continue your thoughts for now. We'll get through this, and then if we have time, I'll ask you some other questions. Okay, I have a couple of other topics I could get into. But you have you ever do you know about out of body experiences?

Sure? Yeah? So well, you had a guest on here, I think his name JJ from a while back. We touched about sleep paralysis. Yep. So I've had quite a few of experiences like that in my past. Basically, it says, if your spirit or soul has left your physical body after falling asleep, and you can see your surroundings from outside of your physical body, it's kind of like your conscience is fully awake and alert while your physical body is asleep. I believe all this, and I'll explain

why. So when I have these experiences, they always begin where I'm presently sleeping, So it starts out typically in my bed, and the experience starts with me floating above my physical body, and I can turn around and watch

myself sleep. Man, it's the creepiest thing ever. So, and you could float through solid objects and everything like that, and all of my surroundings during my experience, or exactly how they are physically, like if I left a glass half full of water on my bedside table, I'll see it during

this experience, like exactly how it is. Wow. And the first one I had, I was about sixteen years old at the time, and I started floating off around the house and I started to wander and explore, and then I realized that I could go anywhere I wanted to, and I remember the first thing that came to mind was that I wanted to go see the Pyramids in Egypt, like, this is the coolest thing ever. I got

to go see the Pyramids. But it was at that very moment that I felt a presence of some kind calling to me, and I got curious started to move towards whatever it was. I ended up entering the bathroom, which was pitch black because all the lights are off, and then this dark figure pushed me to the ground started hovering over me, and that's when I panicked and instantly woke up. Have you ever seen do you remember what the Ring

wraiths look like in Lord of the Rings. Yes, that's kind of what this thing looks like, like a black, hooded cloak figure with no face. And a good friend of mine mentioned that this kind of sounds like what's called the Angel of Death, and I did some research on this and I found out that this is how the archangel Asrael. It's how he's kind of loosely described. And in Islam, Asrael is the angel of death who separates souls from their bodies, which is literally what an out of body experiences.

But I also want to point out that Asrael is never mentioned in the Bible. But still it kind of makes me wonder what that experience was all about. Is just a weird coincidence? Yeah, Now did it seem can I ask you this? Did it seem much different than a regular dream? Like? Did it seem more realistic than a regular dream? Yeah? Because like you feel you're fully alert and aware of your surroundings, but you're dreaming.

It's I don't know, it's kind of hard to explain, but it feels like a cross between reality and a dream, like being awake and being in a dream. It's like a blend of the two. Kind of that's interesting. I pulled it up on Google real quickly, and many of the pictures it shows them riding a black horse that kind of reminds me of, you know, Revelations with the trumpets and the horses. M Yeah, so, and I've had many of these experiences, I haven't had them a lot lately,

but and a lot of them. I just I don't really feel comfortable sharing them publicly, but sure, if people want to talk more about this, they can contact me. But I do, however, want to share another experience I had of sleep paralysis. Okay, their guest JJ from Ontario, if I remember correctly, he shared his story which kind of inspired me. So this one experience I had at the time, I had two cats, and I basically remember waking up from a deep sleep. Only my consciousness

woke up and my body was still sleeping. Sleep paralysis. If you've ever had it, it's like a very uncomfortable feeling. You start to panic and you feel an urgency to try to force your body to wake up. Takes a lot of mental exertion to do so. So I tried and struggled and struggled for a while, and after a while I finally managed to get my body to move and wake up. And the first thing I saw when I woke up was one of my cats was tangled up in the cord for my

window blinds. It was I don't know how my cat managed, but he got himself wrapped up and it was wrapped around his neck and his body and everything, and it was choking to death. So I immediately rescued him. So it's my belief that something of a higher power put my consciousness into alert so that I'd wake up and rescue my little fuzzy companion. Wow. Quite

a story. So yeah, how things work like that. And again, experiences like this just over time have also contributed to making me see the world differently, right for sure. So that's that I haven't had these experiences in a while, Like I said, and I kind of wanted to talk a little bit about like frequencies and vibrations. I have a pretty good website to

link you to as well. Basically, I've been observing, how I like to call him the Cabal, how they've been trying to control us and trying to keep his docile, obedient slaves in every way possible, Yes, sir right. They constantly bombardos with beer propaganda, poisoning our food and water supply,

spraying the sky. I was pushing us away from God with the heuocentric model, pumping us full of Rockefeller medicine, and it goes on and on, but it goes deeper than that, and I will basically go over everything. And this also ties into how COVID affected my life interest as well. If you wanted to get into that, yeah, that'd be great. So I'm I'm really lucky my job never mandated the vaccines. That's good. That is also surprising, being because you were in Canada and he was he was

really pushing that right, Yeah for sure. Yeah, they my company, they have a office block downtown Calgary, and I guess they mandated it for them, but for my particular physician and location, they decided not to. That's great, So I'm very blessed for that. For sure. A lot of people didn't have the same opportunity. So I'm lucky I never ended up

getting vaccinated. But whereas I going with this? Yeah, so, and also because I live alone, I have a lot of like spare time to kind of research things, and so I've not only did I research flat Earth, but waken up to that woke me up to a lot of other things. And one of those things is literally the clothing that we wear and the

bedding that we sleep in. So there has been a growing trend in since fabrics, primarily polyester and nylon polyester is a petroleum based product, and believe it or not, lots of recycled plastic is now being turned into polyester. Yep. So if you think about drinking from plastic water bottles and eating food out of plastic like int go lunch containers, yep, is bad. Just just imagine what wearing the synthetic fabrics can do to you in the long run.

Yep. Polyester, I'll read this, polyester belongs to the terminal branch in a chain of toxic and reactive precursors. There's a lot of research that suggests that polyester carries carcinogens, which means excessive were of polyester can lead to problems such as lung and skin cancer. And it can even cause respiratory infections. And it's funny because I've mentioned before my father never spoke a cigarette the day of his life, and you know, he he died for a respiratory

type of you know, pulmonary type of type of issue. And again, it's everything from our clothes to our food, to water we drink in plastic bottles. Yeah, that's I'm glad you brought that up, because that is something that people don't know. Petroleum based products are a lot of what we wear and consume that they put it in everything. Yeah, literally everything. So and a lot of people will argue that there is no evidence that synthetic

clothing is harmful, but speak from people's experiences. In my case, for example, I used to wear one hundred percent polyester boxers and in hot weather, I'd sweat and I'd get rashes from that. And then I switched over to one hundred percent organic cotton and I've never had that problem since because cotton absorbs moisture better, right a hundred yep. So, further research into into these fabrics led me down this rabbit hole of frequencies and vibrations. So,

all physical matter in our existence is made up of different masses. All matter has a vibrational frequency, whether it's water, a rock, piece of paper, literally everything vibrates at different frequencies. So here is some interesting information regarding the vibrational frequencies of clothing. So, and it gets spiritual and it gets a little biblical as well. Now have you heard of linen? Obviously, Yeah, you've heard of linen and oil, right, sure, So linen

is a natural fabric made of flacks. And then it's considered holy a time. In the Bible, linen and wool are known as what are called super fabrics, which send positive vibrations to heal and maintain health. They both vibrate at five thousand megagroots and apparently scientific evidence shows that wol's energy flows from left to right, whereas the frequency of linen flows from right to left. Maxing

these two together will cancel out the healing effects to zero. And there's even a Bible verse I can't remember which one it is, but it instructs us not to where linen and wool together. Really yeah, so there's that. And then, but have you noticed how hard it is to come across one

hundred percent wool nowadays? It's it's very very hard to one of the prepper guys I listened to he actually created He's going to this more organic one hundred percent wool stuff, which is really really good to know now that you know, you've kind of opened my eyes to this. And by the way, apparently there's two Biblical verses that are relevant to this, Liviticus nineteen nineteen and

Deuteronomy twenty two eleven. So again, both books of the Torah, which go a long way back, and it prohibits the wearing of wool and linen fabrics in one garment. Yeah, that's interesting. When you piece it all together, it just kind of makes sense. Apparently it's called shatness, and i'll hae been heard of that. Yeah, I'll put that in the show

notes for people to look at us as his cloth. Shatness is cloth clothing containing both wool and linen, which old law derived from the Torah prohibits wearing. So there you go. I'll put that in the show notes for you guys to peruse for your enjoyment and learning. And yeah, and then continuing on, you have cotton. Cotton kind of vibrate from a frequency of seventy

two hundred and ten megahurts, give or take. If it's not organic and it's bleached or dyed, it brings it down to about forty to seventy. And then there's all the other fabrics such as polyester, rayon, etc. And those are way down at around ten to fifteen megahurts. And then it goes on to say a sick, nearly dead individual's frequency is about fifteen. So that's interesting if you really piece it all together. Yeah, it sure

is. And this is something that again most people don't even realize there's frequency within the clothes that they wear, or like you said that the carcinogens with polyester, or the wearing of wool and linen together, all these things are Again a lot of people say New Covenant not pertinent. But again, if you look at some of these things, and as you were talking, I just scan it through, there's hundreds of articles that talk about the where they're

actually consult Some of these are considered healing type of garments. Yeah. And another thing I wanted to point out is that I can't remember where I heard this from, but I read about how linen used to be like a hundred years ago, used to be in all the hospital beds, and now they swapped it out. Yeah, they took that away. I'm sure most of us. It's probably Chester now, I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, And one hundred years ago was basically right around the time the Rockefellers took over the

medical industry too. So and what was their big thing with oil and so what is right that it all comes full circle? Yeah, So if like, if you can like maybe find some articles of linen it's it's a lot more pricey though, But uh, like I I've been slowly switching over all my my wardrobe to cotton, and then I went and picked up a set of linen sheets, and I found out that since then I've been sleeping a

lot better. But again, this is just my experience, So like, don't take my word for it. If you're curious, give it a try yourself, see how it does for you. Right, every bodies should certainly try for themselves. And again, every anything that's good for you is going to be a little more expensive. Right. We always talk about dollar Burger seven dollars for a salad. Right, But again, it's so interesting that

here we are talking about Rockefeller education. They made their money through standard oil. They made their money through the petroleum industry. And you know, it turns out that it's polyester, is part of you know, is derived from petroleum. It's full circle and all this stuff is harmful and again sick people. You know, the medical industry can't make money off of healthy people. Right. Yeah, and there's something else that wanted to get on the story

with you now you can touch on with with that. So about a year and a half ago, I've started to do a lot of things at home like I would like. I've been. For one I've been. I started a garden last year. Sorry is this at the beginning of this year? Great? So for the first time I started to grow my own vegetables. And I have had absolutely no knowledge of how to do this, and it was shocking how well it did. I literally stuck things in the ground and

watered and I had a ridiculous amount of beets and potatoes. I had to give some money to my neighbors. They didn't know what to do with it at all. That's awesome. Yes, it's easier than you think. So now I have oursley grown all my counter since since April. It just won't stop growing. Like it. It's easier than you think. It really is. It really is, and God made it that way, right, Yeah, And they don't want us to have that knowledge, No, they don't.

And they want you to believe once again that dandelions are bad and hemp is bad. But you know, the oxycotin's good and pardon me, the DDT is good. Right, get rid of those nasty, nasty weeds. It's just it's it's just unbelievable how they have manipulated people's minds again to lead

them away from natural medicine. And again there is a place for western medicine, but again they really don't teach how to grow things right and what each in every whether it's a dandelion or lettuce, how it works, how it can heal. Even stinging nettles is one of the most healthy things that you can consume, and most people, once again, they think it's a weed and they spray it with some type of carcinogenic spray, and everything is backwards.

Everything is inverted, just like they teach with the Garden of Eveen, right Eden, God was bad and he had Adam and eve locked up and they didn't want God didn't want them to have the knowledge, and so they invert the story. Just like everything here to this very day. Everything is inverted for sure. Yeah, and it's funny you mentioned Danny Lines because I live in like a single family house just like in the suburbs here, and

a lot of people they do that here. It's kind of like a keeping up with the Joneses kind of neighborhood, right, But the town itself kind of stopped stopped doing it. And you'll see dandelions kind of all over the place, just not on people's lawns. Sure, but I'm gonna stop doing that and I might anger a few neighbors. But oh well, you should put a sign on your line on your lawn. Excuse me, that says you see weeds, I see medicine. Yeah, how true is that?

It's pretty It's a pretty common thing in some places for people to use daddy lines in salads, sure, and daddy line tea yep, stuff like that. So we DEI created a whole bunch of them this year, powdered them up. Yeah and right. So like, and my belief is that God created us and everything here on earth, and he did so perfectly. Yep, he makes no mistakes. All of the ingredients needed to sustain life and

stay healthy can be found naturally everywhere. There's no need for anything man made from synthetic materials, not the food we eat, not the clothing we wear, or any of the products we use. Yeah, and again, it's inherently evil of our government to mandate things is illegal that naturally grow. And I'm not getting a deep discussion into it. It's just that when you really look through it and get to the bottom of it. All of these things

are about control and lies. And to make you think that again, it goes completely against Psalms one eighteen eight. Right, you got to put your trust in the Lord, not in man. Well, they're like, well, no, it's it's not really right. That was six thousand years ago when that book was written. They were just old dumb knuckle draggers back then. You know, trust us and our Pfizer and our Johnson and Johnson. When you realize you just do a little bit, you spend ten minutes researching.

Again, if you go to Google and put in you know, the Pfizer and the largest fines. I mean they I think they got what a two or three billion dollar fine for lies and deceit and bribing actually one of the charges was bribing doctors. Right, So these people are just evil. You look at all the lawsuits Johnson and Johnson with their talcum powder, and of course everybody knows, you know, anybody's listening to is probably semi awake, and it's hipp to the fact of all of the just man everything that

those jabs have done to people. It's just pure evil for sure. And I have an analogy on that as well, so going on with what I've been doing since this scandemic started. Like, I've also been buying meat locally from a farmer great and like by the time the cattle is killed to the time it's in my freezer is like less than a week, and I find the quality is a lot better and it turns out to be about the same price as what you would buy for storebote. Anyways, you just got to

buy more of it at a time, right exactly. Yep. For for chickens, we're not allowed to have chickens in town, but there's a how to right colony close to where I live, so I go there. That's where I get my chicken and my eggs from. Great because I'd rather support that than big box stores, oh for sure. And pork I don't really eat often. I have bacon now and now and then. But uh, But moving on, I also have been learning to do a lot of cookie

at home. I'm starting a recipe book. I've also been purifying my drinking water. I have an entire water purification system built into my house and reverse osmosis drinking water to get rid of the fluoride, and then I store my drinking water in a glass jug with mineral rocks and what's what they call elite shung gaie rocks. I don't know if you've heard of that, but they're known for their water purifying properties. Ye, so there's that, and I've

I'm steering away from junk food and everything. Unfortunately, I've been wanting to find raw milk, but it's completely illegal to sell in Canada. So and after going down the rabbit bull about that, Yeah, that's just another thing that is just pure evil. We're lucky they don't mess with the Amish here. So we have connections where we can get our raw milk and my wife can make our homemade butter and it's it doesn't even the taste isn't a whole

different spectrum. It tastes delicious, it's fresh and it's good for your gut. And of course with the with the cream, you know, my wife can make the butter. So and again it's once again the government telling us what's good and what's right. You know what's wrong, what's healthy, what's not. Like you, you're in Alberta, and both the Alberta and their health services recognize that water fluoridation effectively prevents tooth tocay, especially among people who

are most vulnerable. It offers significant benefits with very low risk and reaches all residents who are connected to a municipal water supply. And again they'll champion that, But what they don't champion really is just how. And this goes back to polio. How indoor plumbing really changed the health spectrum of the country, not not these jabs and not fluoride in water exactly. And my mom, she has been brushing her teeth with fluoride free toothbased for decades. In decades,

she has absolutely no issues with her teeth at all. So Yeah, likewise, you can use like Tom's or you can use what there's like a derivative of charcoal out there right that you can get. Yeah, and touching on all that. So I also, over the course of this scandemic, I've also been learning how to make my own stuff at home. Yeah, to name a few examples, I've been making my own shampoo, shaving cream, Sun's Green toothpaste, laundry detergent, cleaning solutions, and so on.

I've been making it from natural ingredients like sheya butter, coconut oil, ali aagel. But you got to get the type without the green coloring in it, tons of essential oils and so on. And I have an analogy here, So let's get into a store bought shampoo. So, even the more expensive brands, they contain many ingredients that are toxic to your hair. Yep. They will strip your hair of all exis soils, causing your body to work over time to reproduce the oils lost, which causes your hair to feel

oily greasy, and it can also make your hair smell bad. So when I used to use store bought shampoo, if I went even more than three days without using the stuff, my hair would start getting greasy yep. But since switching to homemade, this doesn't happen anymore. In fact, I'm actually down to shampoo my hair once every two weeks now. Really yeah, and speaking from experience, it it looks and feels healthier than it ever has.

That's interesting. Now we do the homemade laundry so and it's I think my wife said it, it's like four cents a load, and it's there's none of that fake smell that you get with if you use tie or whatever. We've been using that for quite some time. And if anybody wants the recipe or the ingredients, send me an email and I'll I'll scan my wife's little

how she makes it, and it comes out very, very clean. And if I think you can add like essential oils or put some natural things in there, if you want to put some sense in it, it works great. Pennies on the dollar, and there's no chemicals in it. Now, what do you use for your shampoo? I'm interested to hear that I've been every time I make a new batch, I always try different recipes. But the main ingredient that I've been using was cat still soap okay, and I

would mix it with basically like a carrier oil of some kind. I'd throw in some essential oils and I look into like whatever essential oils are good for your hair. I've also tried making it with coconut milk, but it only has a certain shelf life. Sure. Yeah, there's a ton of different recipes, it's and everyone's different. Right, My hair is very thick and curly. I've been growing my hair out lately to sort of test the waters with my shab food and it's been doing good so far. But yeah,

like the even I even found a recipe with honey. That's another thing that I buy is raw raw honey, local honey as well. So yep. But again, like whatever recipes that I have that work for my here might not work for someone else, right, because everyone's different, That's right. It's just trial and error. You just have to have fun with it.

So yeah, there's literally one thing that you can't replace homemade that there's a recipe for it, whether it's soap, shampoo, deodorant, there's there's natural recipes out there for it. And again, like you said, you do have to test different ones because everybody's different, right exactly. And and as you mentioned, like like you're buying a whole bunch of supplies, so initially it might seem like it's expensive to buy all this stuff, but in the

end you're actually saving a lot of money. Yes you are, and you're going natural, so and it's better for you, like you said, yeah, And I just want to just go over this really quickly. I have an analogy over shampoo. It's all a lie. The shampoo industry is a total lie. Much like Rockefeller medicine. They present a product to you, have you use it and get results, but those results fade away within a few days, and then you are made to think that you have to continue

using their product in order to feel clean. And that's how the abbey in their pockets. And where have we seen this pattern before? Vaccines? Right, that's right, they have the efficiency of the vaccine wears off, so keep getting boosted. Exact same concept. We're being sold lies everywhere in the

shampoo industry. Is just one example. Yep, there was. And again Procter and Gamble excuse me, is another one of these companies like Pfizer that is continuously getting found out that something they made is detrimental to your health. Just two years ago, Procter and Gamble had to pay I think close to

ten million dollars for people who bought secret and Old spice. And by the way, anything that you spray on you or put that has like a big smell in it, they're not using natural oils, I can guarantee you. They're using whatever's the cheapest, and most of them are man made things. But these things were recalled a couple of years ago because they had benzene in

them, So you're putting benzene on your body. And again it's just none of this stuff is natural, and again a lawsuit after lawsuit that you know, it's just that it's all about population control, right. They want you sick and they want you out of the way. Yeah, and reliant on what they give you, that's right. That's another thing I noticed is what woke me up to the homemade products was deordering because I'd put on a different brides of deodorant, like an axe or old spice, and it would start

giving me rashes. And then I found out that there's a luminum in it, and that's kind of what triggered all at So, yeah, and you're putting that in your I think second most absorbent spot on your body. I think the bottom of your foot is first, and then your armpit a second. Yeah, so think about that. Yeah, So that's that it was there. I don't know where you want to go in next with this.

Well, we've got about ten or fifteen minutes left. So if there was anything else that you wanted to make sure you wanted to cover, we can do that now. Otherwise, if there was anything that you wanted to talk about COVID that you had to deal with, or anything else that you wanted to to approach oh you know what also I do. Do you have a silver bullets for flat earth? I have a few written down here? Okay? Or where is it now? Like for my my main proofs for flat

earth? So I mean, the first one to me is the most obviously you can see too far, wine and simple, And the only argument people have against this is what refraction? But how can you prove refraction is what you're seeing? Yeah, It's one of those things they pick and choose to use when it's convenient for their argument. Yeah, Like like like, I don't get it. How can you prove it? Prove that it's refraction that you're looking at when you're looking at things that should be well below the curve?

I don't get that. And then the other thing is the angles of sun rays. Like if you take the angle of the sun ray beaming down from the Sun to the left, and another ray from the sun beaming down to the right, and you calculate the distance between those two points where the sun rays hit the ground, calculate the degree of angle of those three sunrays and correlation with the ground, and then follow those two sunrays back to its source. I try, I don't know. I'm kind of bad at explaining

it. But does that kind of make sense? It does, and it certainly will not equal ninety three million miles. Yeah, exactly right. So there's that. And then the third one is the fact that the stars never change. Like they're telling us, we're rotating at one thousand miles an hour at the equator, whipping around the sun sixty six thousand miles an hour, the Sun is flying around the middle at five hundred thousand, and so on, and all of these stars just happen to be moving at the exact same

speed as us. And the other thing is, we can argue that light generally travels in a straight line unless you take into consideration things like refraction, reflection, scattering, or whatever. But how is it that the light from the stars just so happened to travel directly towards us for us to see them when the stars are also flying through space at astronomically ridiculous speeds. That's right, So, like, let's just envision one star is an example. They

say the closest star to us is four light years away. I think, so the light coming from the star is stretched out across four light years of space, and that entire four light year length of light in a straight line is also traveling in sync. I don't know. That just doesn't make sense to me. No, it doesn't. Yet anybody will say, okay, right, because it came from a person with a position of authority, so they just not up and down north and south and they move on to the

next thing. Yeah, and I remember you talking about how there there's going to be like a digital book burning. Yeah, I do. And so what I did was I went and I found a couple of books and I bought them just in case I at least have something to fall back on. And I found this book on Amazon called the Flat Earth Book. And inspite

the author, her name is Karina Benitez. And this this book, it does have some spelling and grammar errors, So if you can get past that, I think it does a pretty good job of explaining how you can't physically be in a vacuum inside of space, at least with the space stations and spacesuits of what they supposedly designed and is floating out there. And what was it called again, it's literally just called the flat Earth Book. Flat Earth Book is Karina A R I N A OKK. Benita's got it found it

a pretty interesting book. Yeah. Oh another thing, where did I had this written down somewhere? There is there's a video on YouTube where it shows I think her name is as astronaut Sonny Williams, and she's doing a tour of the International Space Station and I noticed that one of the first things she says, she's describing the inner workings of the space station. But she's she says the words. She says something like, this is how we work up

here on a flat plane. She literally says that those exact words. That's interesting. I'll have to watch it. I found it and I'll put the clip in. It's about thirty minutes. But this is I think this is the most complete version. It's funny. There's close to four hundred thousand views and nobody's caught on anything. Everybody just says it's how awesome she is and thanks for the tour and everything else. But again, it's interesting any NASA

video you can find so many fallacies within it, for sure. And here's another thing. It's not just flat earth that they're like when you type in flat earth in YouTube, you get that Wikipedia disclaimer. So yeah, it's arcaic or whatever. Yep, but not just that. If you type if you type in chem trails, same thing, you'll get a Wikipedia article telling you about con trails and such and such. Oh yeah, you're right, it sure did. And Okay, here's another funny thing that I found out

from another podcast. You have to have in your Google account settings. You have to just make sure that your search history is turned on for YouTube, so that it shows what you looked up recently, Like when you type in the search bar and it as it dropped down menu. Yeah, if you type in keem trails one word plural and hit search and then you back out and then you go to search it again, that search suggestion that you typed

in will be removed, unlike everything else. Yeah, you're right. I just typed it in, hit enter, went back and tiny back in and it's not even it's not giving me the same suggestion. Wow. The AI is really super advanced and they know how to use it to manipulate people's minds, that's for sure. Yeah, they just want you to forget about it, right, that's crazy. I've tested that a dozen times and it's the same thing every time. Wow. So can you do get that question for

you? Yeah? Sure, go ahead. How often do you get kem trails out there, So it's been very bad the last couple of weeks. I think we used to get it once or twice a week, but we've noticed that they have been spraying extremely heavy the days prior to rain. I'm not sure what that means, if that's a way of toxifying the water or what. But we came back I think it was what's today, Monday, Thursday or Friday, from Sam's Club, and we got out of the car

and looked up and it was insane. We had never seen chemtrails that bad before. We have noticed they've been picking up the pace, but we've never seen it like that. So we're starting to wonder is that really what's getting everybody sick? Are they just because if you go to the news, if you go to like you said, go to Google and then just put in flu, just flu, hit enter, and then click on news, you will see nothing but stories about New York twenty six percent rays last week,

all of this stuff. And then of course now they're pushing the bird flu narrative again. So it's a five point four million in US have already had the flu this season, So is it really just toxins from this guy. And if so, obviously I'm assuming that the controllers, you know, the big people at the top, they know when and where. So I mean, is that something that you've thought about. I think it's I think, uh, whatever they're spraying up there is maybe part of the reason why we're

getting getting sick. But uh, I think it's kind of like a little bit of everything, like chem trails, what you're eating, you know, everything we talked about basically, Yeah, that's not eve minutes, Yeah exactly, Yeah, for sure. And now it's good to know that even the clothes I wear is getting me sick, Yeah, exactly, Like it's the chem trails are ridiculous though. Here I can't look out without just seeing like an overcast of that disgusting haze. You know, you can you can tell

a part a fake cloud from a real cloud. Real clouds are big and fluffy and they look like marshmallows, right, yep. I don't know, George, I'm just getting sick of seeing a day after day. It gets depressing, man likewise, and we talk about it here. We remember growing up in the seventies and eighties, how blue the skies were, and the skies are just not the same as they were, you know, thirty or

forty years ago. Yeah, oh, and I agree with that. And even as like not even that long wo I swear just three four years ago wasn't that bad out here either, But now it's like all the time. And another question for you is how often do you see rainbows? You know, not often? Like if you put me on the spot and asked me, when was the last time I saw a rainbow? Maybe August? Okay, because here's what I'm wondering. Last time I saw a rainbow was twenty

twenty. Wow, and that's before they started spraying everything like crazy. Maybe some other people have seen some out here and I just didn't notice, Like I could be wrong, but I wonder if these chemtrails are affecting the weather so much and then they're taking away in the rainbow, like literally, do you think they're trying to block even though it's do you think there's something more deep and spiritual about it? Do you think they're trying to block us coming

between us and God? Or is that reading into it too much? That's literally what I think, that's part of it. But I think it's it might be physically as well, Like just like the way the chem trails are laid out in the sky, they prevent scientifically a rambles from warming where else I going with this, Yeah, it's it's crazy, man. I don't know. Well, you know, rainbow is literally a symbol from God.

And now that I'm sitting here thinking most of the summer is growing up at the end of a because in the summer here in the mid Atlantic region, it's not unusual. Just like in Hawaii, it was every afternoon there was a chance of a storm, and when the storm cleared up, there was always a rainbow, always a rainbow. And now that you say that, I can't think of the last time I saw a rainbow after a storm, right, Yeah, kid, That's what I was getting at out here.

Like I moved out here from Vancouver in a bout in twenty fourteen, and my experience for the first six years of living out here is that the summers they typically have this kind of repeat pattern where each day will get increasingly warmer and warmer and warmer, and then we'll have like this crazy storm that blows through and there will be lightning and just a huge downpour of rain, and then the sky will clear up, the sub will come out, and you'll

see a rainbow every time, and I have not seen that since since two years ago, and that's about the time that they started spraying like crazy. I'll tell you what, Alex, You're a very perceptive person. These are the little things that we should really be paying attention to. And you've brought up so much today that I've got a lot of research to do over the next few days to follow up and try to find like the deep meaning between you know, all of these things and the connection of the dots, which

in many cases, like we said, are spiritual. Yeah, yeah, for sure. And also where as I go in here, like the other thing is you know how people associate the term flat earth with you're crazy of course, and it's the exact same thing with chemtrails. Yep, you say that word, you're targeted as being crazy. Or if you say anything bad

about a vaccine likewise, yeah. Yeah. So However, if you search on the internet different terms, like for example, search up cloud seeding, weather modification, geoengineering, you'll find tons of articles like lots lots on it. They literally tell you what they're doing. And Canada has what is called the Weather Modification Act. You could look that up. There's a lot of info about that. There's a treaty between USA and Canada about over weather modification.

So the truth is out there. You just got a no where to look for it. You know. It's interesting we did. We had the same type of act that was passed here in the United States. And it's interesting because this really didn't become a popular subject until the mid nineties. But this act passed by It was actually sponsored by Senator James Pearson of Kansas way back in nineteen seventy six, and it's called the Act Who Authorize and Direct

the Secretary of Commerce to develop a National policy on weather Modification. Yeah, and it's funny because I've got guys at work who will argue me to death over things like chemtrail's fluoride and whatnot. All you gotta do is look, the evidence is out there, they tell you, and y'all's Canada's was put in place in nineteen eighty five, almost forty years ago. Yeah, it's

crazy, man, jeez. And again, if you think, if you really sit down and think of the impact of what they're doing weather modification, you think, how I mean that is borderline evil. If you want to talk about messing with God's creation, it really really is. And they'll put a positive spin on it and everything else. But anytime you mess with nature, I think you're asking for it for sure. Yeah, I think that's There's still a lot more, but I think you're running out of time here.

But yeah, you've brought so much to the table today, and the show notes are going to be full and people are going to have a lot of homework to look into. You know, everything that you've brought and will definitely bring you back some time even on the Fact Hunter, because you bring so much great information that will number one, make people aware that there are

natural resources for everything you buy in the store. Right, you don't have to buy shampoo, you don't have to buy laundry, detergent, and everything else is all connected. It is all connected. So when you talk about whether it's Procter and Gamble or Pfizer, they are all connected to the people

at the top. Remember, I think there's just a handful of entities that own like ninety six percent of the world's whether it be the media, you know, it all goes back to Black Rock and Vanguard and these people are not the good guys, So open your eyes. Try And that's the other thing, Alex, Right, don't be afraid to try these things, whether

it's laundry soaper, new deodorant, it's really not that hard. It's very simple and at the end of the day, it's cost effective and you're probably going to have a positive health out look because of it, well for sure. And actually it's like almost the opposite for me. I'm afraid to go back and use the other stuff the poison rate. Oh yeah, same likewise, and again it becomes secondhand and you don't even think twice about whipping up

a batch of Logit detergent and don't last forever. And it's so easy, and your clothes are just as clean and doesn't have that fake, you know, chemical smell to it, and you just feel better. But now I'm gonna have to look at the clothes I wear thanks to you, I'm gonna run up in my wife. You're where you learn how to make this stuff,

it becomes sick of nature. It's it's really easy, and not only that, but you're you're no longer contributing to all this plastic waste either, right, Buying bottle after that ball, right, that's right, And we do keep all of our stuff in like glassware. We don't put it in plastic. I do the same thing. Yep, yeah, one hundred percent. You've been a tremendous guest and we appreciate all your information and do want to give you the last opportunity to address the audience for sure. So it's

been a pleasure. Thank you for having me on here. I hope I've given everyone a lot to think about, and anyone can feel free to reach out to me about anything if they have questions, want some recipes that I have to share whatever. As I mentioned before, pretty much all the lies we've been taught or tied to heliocentrism. So question everything, not just the shape of the earth. If something is not adding up, ask questions, do your own research, come up with your own conclusions, don't give into

the fear, propaganda or the division. Hold your piece, and never stop searching for the truth about our creator and the creation amen to that. That is the most important thing. And again we'll have Alex's email address which is aife and Christian sen and that's what the s n at hotmail dot com. But again you don't have to memorize it, just go to the show notes,

copy and paste and email away. And again with all these guests, if there's something that piques your interest, reach out to them, because it's always great to have like minded people to be able to reach out to. So again, Alex, thank you for all the information. It was really a great time, and thank you all for your continued support. I know December is busy for everybody, so I hope everybody's doing okay, not so stressed out. Enjoy your family, enjoy the day. God bless each and

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