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guest joining us from the great state of Texas is our friend Mario. Mario, how are you doing today, sir? Well, George, how are you doing today? Man? As your listeners are listening, my name is Mario. I'm from California, born, raised out there. I'm thirty five years old. I've moved out here late August twenty twelve. I moved out to Texas and you know, throughout my whole life, I was I was
blue piled, so you know, I was. I was in the Matrix, which I'm trying to get my girl to watch, which she has not wanted to in a while. But anyways, I've been out here since, like I said, twenty twelve, and did it really and you know, didn't really you know, reddil myself until later on in life and when I you know, I lived through all this, you know, nine to eleven, which was you know, I was only thirteen at the time, and you know, at that time, I still didn't even that did not wake
me up. That was just more of a of a oh, it's a big event that's happening, you know. And then right after war happened, right, also lived through you know white t K, which is you know, something to another, which was kind of cool too. I not cool, but it was. It was interesting going from white to K into nine to eleven, right right back to back. I was, you know, a kid, like I said, thirteen years old, and I feel like I didn't get blue pilled until you know twenty obviously twenty twenty. I feel
like I was fully awake then. But going back a little bit, around twenty seventeen, I decided to go back to California, right, And when I when I went back, I'd started to notice that this is right, I guess right after Obama left office and Trump was getting in office, and everything in the media was Trump did this, Trump did that, Trump didn't do this, Trump is gonna destroy over the world, right, and you know it was it was so basically that was like, I guess, like
a nudge. I would say, that was my nudge, Like, okay, what's going on? And then I started looking into I guess surface looking into politics and like I said, everything was just Trump, Trump, Trump, and it just got drilled, you know, from twenty seventeen to twenty twenty when everything happened, and uh yeah, I mean it was getting drilled a lot with freaking Trump. Was you know, too much too man?
But I said that was my nudge that kind of basically, you know, basically waking up and you know, moving your eyes and open, I mean your eyes, like what's going on? What's going on? Okay, and all you've seen is just propaganda you know, the right and the left, you know, in your face and you're just locate. That's that's a lot right there. So basically I would say I went back to sleep at that
time. And then which also you know that all that when it comes to conspiracy theories, obviously I went back to sleep, right But obviously I knew the I had a feeling that the moonlighting was fake nine to eleven was inside job, which I never really dove into. I just heard from word of mouth, Hey you know this, that this happened, this, you know with the fake planes, no playe theory. Yep. And after a while, like I said, I basically woke up in twenty twenty. But that's
my trying to thought. So in twenty I would say twenty twenty two, twenty three, early twenty late twenty two, I was going through Facebook reals, right, and then this guy named Caleb dot Fe from TikTok. Caleb from TikTok. He had this one model which was the solar system, you know, racing through space, and I was like, wait, wait, wait, and then he's you know, he broke it down. You know, we have a solar system, we have the Sun, we're spinning around.
And then which to me, obviously, hey, that made sense to me. You know, that's that's what almost everybody's used to you know, everyone everything going around, So the Sun. I was like, dude, well, what's it mean. It's racing through space, chasing the galaxy or whatever while we're spinning. And that's so like I was always into this,
into science fiction. And when he basically broke me out of my show when he described what the scientists, when NASA is teaching everyone else and what we're basically now teaching to the to the students, saying that we're racing through space while or how Dave Why says a courch crewing through space. You know, all around and whatnot. It just did not did not resonate. It just did not make any sense to me. It doesn't make any sense. So that's where I started like, Okay, what is this, you know?
And then all of a sudden, I started seeing flat Earth the Briels on Facebook, which, in reality, I was like, if something is being hid in Facebook, it shouldn't be on Facebook, I guess, but it is. I got my eyes, got to see him see them, and yeah, man, I I went on Spotify. I typed flat earth, and yours was the first one to pop up. And uh, I'm pretty sure you hear that a lot. Yeah, I'm pretty caught up. Yeah.
So it's like yours, yours and a few others are the only ones that are just strictly flat earth or whatever, which is okay, I'm gonna give you know, this guy a chance to see what's up. And and here I am, now here you are on the podcast. So yeah, and again it goes back to I'm glad I made And I've had so many people tell me that they're glad that I titled it that way, because that's how they found the podcast, by literally putting those two words in the search
Engine. A couple of things that you had mentioned talking about movies and The Matrix and once you are quote unquote red pilled, when you go back and watch some of the movies, isn't it incredible how you see the same movie so differently as you did the first time while you were asleep. See, yes, I have in I actually haven't seen The Matrix lately. I've been trying to watch it with my girl, and she convinced me not too long,
love to watch the Fifth Element, so we watched that instead. Okay, Bruce Willis, But yeah, watching certain movies and going to certain music events, like, it's a little bit different now once you're blue, red pilled. So what's the better music town Dallas or where you were in California? And you know, I wanna be honest, man, Dallas music scene
is pretty darn good? Is it? Pretty dark good? Plus? I mean, I'm older now, so I shouldn't have money to go and spend on concert with one, but argo when I was younger, you know, I had to ask permission from my parents. Hey, you go, what kind of music is it? That's that's you're not the right music for you, you know, being stubborn teenager or whatever. But I would say out here the music scenees a little better. I mean we have Pantera, that's
right. Actually with te Pantera and Metallica in August, it was pretty pretty good show. But like I said, it was a little different, especially since I've just recently opened my eyes, you know what I mean. Who did they have replace Daryl with? And it's uh oh Zach Wild? Oh sure, sure, sure he's a he's a hired gun for musicians. Man, that's awes. I'm sure he gets paid well to do it. No, you diems good, he's good. And then I forgot what who drunk
for them? But other than that, it was a pretty good show, especially in Metallica was closing out. Sure, oh, I mean it was good. It was good for what it was. And but yeah, I don't know, man, because I'm still nervous you and tho this is my my second one under my belt. Oh no, you're doing great. And another thing you mentioned that kind of made me laugh was y two k for literally like that. I think it was late that last eighteen months, probably
from about mid ninety eight into two thousand. That's you know, the banks were going to fail. The computers were going to shut down. The power grids were going to go down. And I remember I was stationed in Hawaii and we're standing there. Obviously we're five hours behind the East coast. So I'm calling my sister. It's like, hey, you still got power. She's like, yeah, nothing happened, just laughing. Yeah, I remember
those days. Okay, So I think it was. It was the weekend of the of I was a kid, man, I was a kid. The stores were a little scarce, a little bit, you know, with with just you know, the actual essentials was just water and whatnot, you know, I mean, they did a decent scare at that time. Sure, like I said, I was it, you know, I was. I was, what twelve eleven and but uh yeah, white too, White t K was interesting. And then I had looked at my dad and I
was like, Dad, I forgot to turn off the computer. We had just got into combat off of the line at that time was a five hundred and twelve megabyte. Yeah, top fine man back in the day. But
yeah, I mean, like I said, White t K happened. And then nine to eleven, nine to eleven shook me a little bit, just because I lived in Riverside, which is forty five minutes away from La So at the time, I was like, what, I think I attacked Los Angeles too, you know, and from gathering what happened back then, you know, it's like they quickly put Muslims that you know had attacked us and whatnot, you know, quickly right on, right on the spot after it
happened. So it was you know, like I said, I didn't really dive into it until just recently. But really my first rabbit hole was flat Earth. Like I actually dove in and then basically it spit me out and say, hey, you got to learn all these other conspiracies before you come
back to flatter Earth back because everything's related. So I've been like, you know, going back and forth to like, you know, a little bit here and a little bit there, but a lot a lot of truth leads back to flat Earth, which is like, it's not a coincidence there, Come on, now, man, you know, it's not a coincidence, which if you really look up the term coincidence, it's irremarkable event or circumstances without apparent casual connection, which they're alone. It's like it should be very
rare. That's right now, like very rare yes, and and like I said, like I'm not gonna eave me to this, and they're looking at a lot of things. It's just everything, everything's tied in, even like Titanics tied into the Rothschilds and JP Morgan get me in a whole now, I'm just trying to well a singer ship. You know, it was not just an accident that it hit an iceberry or whatever. It was all caused, you know, yeah, And so I know it's just going to this.
It's just a big, big eye opener. Man. Like it's a big eye opener. And like I said, it kind of like spit me back out saying, hey, man, learn some of the other stuff because everything is related anyways. That's like I said, that's where I'm at right now. And I'm glad you made that analogy because that that is something that we should describe how coincidence. And I just threw a coin in the old coincidence jar just for bringing it up. But it should be something that happens.
So like it's such a combination of extraordinary events and when you look at all the coincidences from that one day, whether it be the guy who bought the properties just six weeks before, and he got the insurance money, and the Bush family being part of the security team, and the Yodago message system warning all the Israelis not to go to work that day, and Lucky Larry Silverstein being late to go to work that day because of a medical appointment and
his daughter's being stuck in I mean, it is literally like five hundred of these type of things, which again, does it prove anything, No, But where there's smoke, there's fire. And I think with the history of everything that our government has done, just the shady, extraordinary evil things that we have done, if anybody doesn't take the time to look into it, then shame on them. Yeah. And uh, like I said, man, I was well, I seen all the smoking guns, but I was
too content. Yeah, sure, content to wherever I was at. And and I would have you know, let's say a family member tell me, let's just go like to like nine eleven. I know that nine eleven. You just everyone could talk about it forever, you know what I mean. But that's probably the only one, big, big event that I can really relate to. And it's just people would just you know a little bit here a little bit there, and I'll be like, Okay, well, yeah I can see that. I can see that. But that's all I ever
stayed at, you know. And it was just because it I lived through it, I didn't want to go through it again because I was, like I said, a kid, I just but it didn't shook me enough to wake me up, you know, to see, hey there's something wrong. I would be like something shady, but whatever, let's just go back to bed. So yeah, and it's I mean, I'm glad I woke up.
I woke up, you know, and it's it was meant to be out at a certain time, you know, and which I have a question for you actually, you know, sure, And because I always see this every time, I see this at least twice a day, which is twelve thirty four, And and I like, let's hold deal with with with with flatter kind of I'm getting into more more biblical deal with you know, with God or whatever, which I was on and off with religion for years.
And then like I said, this one last thing right here, kind of like hey there's a career man, there's someone up above. But I always see twelve twelve thirty four, and I looked up online what quotes biblical? Because I always see them either I wake up at twelve thirty four if I go to bed early, or I'm at work and I see twelve thirty four. I always see twelve thirty four. So these twelve thirty four and in
Cheing James verversions because old generations of vipers. How can ye, being evil speak good things for out for out of unabundance of the heart to them? Ah, my bad? You could abundance of the heart and valves speak it, which I have no idea what that means. Man, I'm really trying to like decipher what that means. Which I'm glad I'm talking to you about that. Yeah, And when you when you sing a lot of verse like that, sometime to make it, to put it in context, it's good
to read maybe the verse before, the verse after after. So if you look at thirty three, it says thirty three either make the tree of I'm sorry, either make the tree good and his fruit good, or else make the tree corrupt and his fruit corrupt. For the tree is known by his fruit. So is he saying that you know anybody who puts out bad and for you know a bad person is going to generate bad just is going to bear bad fruit. He's going to bring bad things to you. Right,
you don't want to hang around bad people. Now that you get to the verse that you're talking about thirty four oh generation of vipers. And obviously he may be talking about I probably have to read the entire chapter to get the full context, but maybe he's talking about, you know, as the Bible says in the end times, people fall away from God. So he may be talking about the generation of vipers, the generation of people who have turned
their back on God. How can ye being evil speak good things? Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaketh So again, you know, with kindness and goodness in your heart, you're going to speak good things those who have evil, and you know that's why he kind of refers to them as vipers are going to spew, you know, evil words. So, like, what we're doing here today is we're sharing our knowledge and we're sharing our beliefs, and I think we are speaking the abundance of the heart.
Right, We're bringing goodness and we're uplifting people. We're not tearing down people, which there's a lot of podcasts and TV shows that that make a lot of money off of tearing people down, and and you know, being like vipers can agree with that. I can agree with that. And then also I when I looked up that that those quotes also came with Luke three four, Luke twelve thirty four thirty four ye, because I guess I wasn't
sure what it meant because I just I just started looking it up. Oh okay, and me game Matthews twelve thirty four and then Luke twelve thirty four, which Luke twelve thirty four says for where your treasure is, there will your heart be also, which I I'm like, I'm pretty sure I had to read the one before, but I just clipped on the on the geter here. Yeah, when I googled it, when you first mentioned it. When I first s googled it, it brought up the Matthew for the Brew
of Vipers, that is the first one it brought up as well. Yeah, for where your treasure is, there will your heart be also? So what is your treasure? Right? Is your treasure following Jesus Christ? Because if it is, then that's where your heart's going to be. And I would say my treaditor, right, it would be the truth, man,
the truth. Like that's I mean, that's where I'm assuming if the creator it showed me, you know, brought me, you know, towards Caleb or whatever to come through my reels, because if you wouldn't have showed me the whole soul system, you know, doing its thing or what NASA for
claims to be doing, I know I wouldn't be here right now. I would still be you know, in a guess, I would be still blue pill trying to wake up, because I mean I never really trusted the government to begin with, but I was never fully on this side of things wanting to know the truth, you know, yeah for sure. So I'm assuming. Yeah, so I'm assuming there's a reason why I will seeing these numbers. And also I always see thirteen, Like thirteen always pops up in my
in my in my in my day. And that's like like either I added up to thirteen or I see the actual one three everywhere. It's just one of those weird things, which he says is the number of lucky number, which then also you can go into other things which you know, there's thirteen families that get the world all and then there's there's Jesus, and there's twelve
Disciples, and it just goes all down the line from there. So it's kind of like is it a really good luck or is it just another thing that I have to look at, you know, which also brought me into numerology, which I don't I'm like, I'm just anewly when it comes to all of this, So I'm like literally just taking all the knowledge that I can in and so I don't know, I mean, it's it's been a it's been an interesting journey learning about you know, the the treaty, the
Antharctic Treaty. You know, you can't really go past the sixtieth parallel and why would why would they make a treaty you know, protecting the penguins or something back in the day to where you can't explore it. I mean, why is it that countries that were in world wars can agree on that one thing but can agree on on anything else. It's just kind of brings up
a lot of questions. So just that one reel that he showed me, or that I stumbled across you across brought me through, you know, through and through everything where I'm at now, So I'm pretty I guess blessed him. It comes to that. Yeah, Calebs, I think he's a pretty big account now on TikTok. He's got a lot of followers and he's opened up a lot of eyes. Yeah, I've seen him. I actually got to message him saying thank you uh for showing me that one reel or and
he actually replied saying, you know, just thanking me or whatever. That's awesome. It seems like a dude. So that's all. It's pretty cool, really cool. And then in your journey another thing that you mentioned that was an eye opener for different reasons for different people, but in the case you made, I don't hear enough of and it's something that we should really
talk about. It was not so much the Trump of twenty twenty, but the Trump of twenty seventeen and eighteen and nineteen, where you had one television station that basically was saying he was the son of Satan, and then you had another TV station like Fox News saying, you know, he's the greatest thing since slice bread. It was very wwe ish to me, right man, it was, It really was. It was like you know, smackdal Versus Raw for sure really was man. Yeah, twenty seventeen, seventeen,
eighteen nineteen were for me. Like I said, it was just more of like you know, waking up, you know, like those starting stages. But I didn't really wake up until twenty twenty. Man. It was, like I said, I still feel like kind of late twenty twenty two or whatever when I saw Caleb the Real and I was really just looking for just any old podcast, anything, just to kind of like pass time at work. I was already you know, I screwed the government, you know,
they faked this whole COVID thing. And never, I would say for the first week or so. Yeah, when it came to COVID, and COVID came on March, you know, in twenty twenty, and it was coming everywhere whatever. Uh yeah, I was a little worried, you know. First couple I was Okay, what's going on? What's going on? But then I was like, wait a second, I feel like I've been through this before, which came to my hy two. K oh the wait, I kind of went through this. They made a big old scarce about the
computer's going out doing all this crazy shit. Now they're now thinking it gets a virus something. I can't see what's going on? What's going on? And then like people were, you know, ramping up. Oh, people are dying left and right, left and right, left and right. And I lived by a hospital. I didn't see anything. I mean, you know what I mean, But I didn't see anything. Man, I was,
Okay, what's going on here? So then, like I said, twenty and twenty two, and I was still going through all the political you know, Trump here, Trump there, and Biding this and Biden that. Man, it was just hecktic thing. And man, I was that was a rough time for a lot of people. And I didn't I stayed working. I was there working every day. But I'm kind of glad it happened because it's I don't know, I feel like I feel like I'm actually living now. I guess. Yeah. Well, that had as much to wake
people up as any other event did in the last fifty years. COVID was responsible for waking a lot of people up because of the ridiculousness of it all. How you know the virus. You know, you were safe six feet away, but five and a half feet you were going to catch COVID. My wife forked at a hospital during that time, and she said the same thing. She's like, there is nobody in the ar. This place is
just dead. And that's why people, you know, gave the nurses a hard time for you remember all the crazy TikTok nurse videos, which, by the way, most nurses thought was cringe themselves. It was just a few people who did those, but it was because they had nothing to do. The ears were empty, and so I was thinking, that's all. Like, you know, I didn't have TikTok until just recent that really, and you know, but on Facebook you would see TikTok reels, and you know,
I would see nurses just dancing around. I'm like, wait, I see from from like for instance, my my, my coworker. He he dabbles a lot in a drudge drudge grudge I forgot what that drudge? Yeah, you know, and he gets all his information there and he was like, you know, I guess that's more truth foolish, I guess or whatever. You know. So and so whatever, you know, either way, he knows how to pick out his truth or whatever. So he would tell
me hospitals are empty and whatnot. And then I would see on TikTok people complaining, Oh, we need hell, we need stuff. I'm like, well, that place tells me no. But then TikTok tells me, hey, I'm seeing that we're empty while you're also showing me that you're busy. What's up? Make up your story? You know what I mean? When
it came you know, when it comes to that. I also saw a lot of like a few big people or sources where they would shut out like movie scenes of heavy er traffic or whatever, and it would pass it on as news, which saw NBC do that. I wish I would have got the links for all that, but I saw CNN that, Sorry, my bad, CNN will play movie clips that had heavy scenes of er you know scenario. So they would show people that and people believe what's on the TV,
just like a good old Reagan set. So yeah, and once again nobody got held accountable for it. The propaganda was next level. I remember early March, slate February sometime around there that brought in those two ships, one in the Port of New York and one in San Diego because they just, oh, the hospitals are going to be so overflowed that we're gonna have to you know, stash the extra people in these ships, and you know, you're starting to see, you know, all the people put off the
I think they call them electa surgeries or things that weren't life you know, at the during twenty twenty, a lot of people put off a lot of things, and it's catching up with them now. The uh, you know, the death rates are off the chart now. Obviously some of that maybe because of the jabb At Abadoo, but it also is probably a combination of people who put off medical procedures, preventive maintenance. Just like preventive maintenance on
your car. You don't change your oil for twenty thousand miles, your engine's going to be a wreck. Right, that's true. So I'm sure COVID, what was that like for you? You were in Texas at the time, so it probably although you were in Dallas area. Well, what was it like for you during that time? Were they pushed in the mask? Uh? What was it like at work? Et cetera? And Okay, so at that time we were going through a a Okay, so I'm a I'm a blue collar worker man. I work out in the warehouse and we
distribute cheese all around. We get all the cheese from from from Wisconsin and New Mexico, so of both, you know, cheese capitals of the United States. And we distribute cheese to UH to basically all all all of Texas, part of Louisiana, Oklahoma, and UH in Arkansas, which when we distribute the cheese to all the all the big distributors, all the big dcs, we buy it directly from the source. So during that time also we were going through a h our owner was selling his his the company to some
to some investors and investors the owners of Chicken Express. I don't know if you have any checking Express up in Delaware. You know, it's just basically a fast food you know, chicken joint like Canes or whatever. And uh so one of the other the owner of Chicken Express has the kids, the kids, their kids ow us now and we were going through that change, so they did. They We were lucky for them not to push the mask man they at all. So we worked the whole time without masks. They
didn't push it. We weren't really even really worried about it because we needed it. Was luckily we work with nothing but but but conservative people for a few and so they you know, a whole mask thing was like your mask? Yeah, fuck that? Oh my bad. I didn't need to cuss. Uh. So we never wore a mask. We just went to work and going to and from work. Man, it felt like uh an apocalyptic journey there because there was like no cars inside. You would see one straggler
here there, you know, all fully masked up. You know. But like, I guess I got lucky. I didn't have to wear one. They didn't require the job or anything. So and when it comes to that, I really I think I lucked out. Man. I really couldn't ask for anything better than that. Yeah, that is a story that you don't hear too much of most of the stories you hear a people who, like
my wife, they humiliated the people who didn't want the job. Not only did they have to wear one mask, they made them wear two masks. So my wife's working a twelve hour shift wearing two masks. So it was a humiliation ritual for them. Really, that's they were trying to humiliate them and suffocate them until they caved. But fortunately, you know, people stood strong in their convictions and hopefully it will never ever ever have to endore something
like that again. But something tells me with an election coming around, what do you see for next year yourself? What do you think twenty twenty four is going to bring you have any ideas? Man, I I feel like I think might push that again because I like, right now, like I see a couple of stories here and there, they're trying to ramp up some type of like you know, COVID deal again and I started seeing people mask up again. Yep, So I'm assuming I'm thinking, Mike, this is
just me thinking out loud. Basically, I think, Hey, we're gonna try it again, see how many more people we can get the jab, and then we might move on to something, you know, something else. But yet again, it could be like, hey, let's not do something. It's not do the job or the mask. Don let's just do something else. You know. It's just it's either they're gonna you know, take with two hands or just take with one hand. It's just really, I
mean, it is an election year. That's That's what's kind of like making like my eyebrows you know, go up, Like, Okay, what's going on? Bro? Like what are y'all gonna do now? Especially now that you're awake. It's kind of like, what are you gonna do now? Man? You know, like you really you're keeping you know, head over your shoulder, you know, what's going on? What's going on? Yeah,
I really don't. I don't want to say anything, you know, like Simson has predicted so many different things, right, you mean we can do go off of them if she would they buy two next Yeah, I need to go back and check out some recent episodes and see if they say anything about next year, because that's probably what we'll need to prepare for. If you guys, I encourage everyone to follow with the CDC on whatever social media that you use, because they really just within the last twenty hours this
one. It's the holiday season, but it's also a respiratory virus season. They push jab jab jab. Then there's a health advisory for California in Mexico,
and of course this is what cracks me up. The update of the updated COVID nineteen vaccines are expected to provide protection against new variants like the BA dot two point eighty six and the j ON dot want these things like you would never think that you would be reading like and again, in twenty twenty, everybody became a medical expert man, everybody became a medical expert, right. I think I became one too. I don't know if everyone did for
sure. Yeah, some people bowed to the altar of big pharma. But that is important because, like I say that in a funny way, like everybody had an opinion on the medical industry. But at the same time, like I didn't know anything about shedding prior to twenty twenty, and I didn't
you know. Then you start reading things like murder injection, Murder by Ejection by Eustace Mullins, and then you start to realize, oh my goodness, gracious, and then you see how the vaccine schedule went off the chain in the late eighties early nineties, which really at the same time the down syndrome and these type of things. That's when they really took off an autism,
and you realize how to fit the government really is. They push poison on us, and the things that are good for us, they teach us our weeds or they're dangerous for you. Yeah. Yeah, Like I said, I'm mute to all this. It's like I opened up to to fly Earth and like flower Earth, like I said earlier, spin me back out and say, hey, man, you gotta look at some other stuff too. So it's like right now, it's like what path do I go? And
it's just you know what, I gotta learn that. Also, I've been like a little bit here, then I back out, you know, I take a breathe, and then I go to something else and then you know, so I've been taking a little bit, a little bit of everything at
you know, in small portions. But yeah, it's it's it's interesting how they and I mean they the controllers, you know, the rulers of the of the world, how they really want to dumb us down and make us not who we really are supposed to be, you know what I mean. Yet, if you try to think about what what would the world be right now without currency? If you know, we really did break away from if everyone just broke away from the matrix right now, what would really be the
world? Like, how would it be? You know, it's kind of like a big pill to swallow because it's hard to imagine because you're so used to, you know, playing with monopoly money, you know, day in day out, which you know, I slave away at you know, nine to five avery and I have two jobs technically, so you know, I'm doing. I'm doing sixty sixty five hours a week just to just to keep
my head offlow, you know what I mean. It's just looking back at in the nineteen thirties, nineteen twenties where you kept one hundred percent of your paycheck. Yep, which this might go against some people. I feel like certain taxes are okay to maintain things, but yet again, you really need taxes to maintain all the with the like the roads and all the mainansuff you would need. Would you really need a lot of taxes just to maintain that.
No, not really. You just getting all the taxes so you guys can do your pedal, ship pedal, whatever the hell y'all do, and you know, and everything they do over it, you know. So it's kind of like and everyone lived with the without without having someone over looking over them. Because that's that's that's a lot of freedom right there, if you really think about it, Yep, you know that's a lot of freedom.
Yeah. And I've had this discussion before that, uh you know, going back to what you just said, if we just walked away, I think really then people would understand how much effort freedom really takes, because it's a lot of work. Man, you're talking about educating your own children, bartering, relying on your neighbors for things, and it's just, uh, you know, when we were in Iraq for the first tour, everything we did
was working towards survival. Eating, you had limited food, you had limited water, and it really wakes you up to how spoiled we are and do they spoil us just to keep us lazy and content? So we don't really get angry like we should be, because, like you just mentioned, if you want to have a conversation about local taxes to help upkeep things, I'm
sure most people would be willing to have that conversation. But when you work the first three and a half months of the year for the government, like I think they call March twenty fifth tax day, because from January first to March twenty fifth or thereabouts, that represents like the portion of your annual income
that goes to the federal government. And when you see all your money going to other countries and then you see your fellow, you know, brother on the side of the road, and it's such a mental health crisis we have in this country, and such a drug and when I mean drug I'm talking like fentanyl and opioids and things like that. Right, we have so many people here in this country and crisis, yet they just ship off and and debt our country to the gills. And it's really hard to watch. It's
devastating to watch, and nothing you can do about it. Honest, we all just stood up and just not conformed, but were in reality we're just too too comfortable with like, oh, well, I have my have my have my TV, I have my Netflix, I have my child tomorrow that I have to go to, you know, And it's like, but you're aren't you the ones complaining that you're overly pain I mean, I can stop doing that. But what's one person gonna do. It's not gonna even make
a DBT. You need hundreds and thousands of people, you know what I mean. Yeah, And what we see is boiling the frog. All these changes have occurred, you know, slowly over the course of one hundred years. But if you, like you said, if you took somebody from like nineteen twenty and brought them to today, they would go nuts. Between the propaganda, between the debauchery that we see right, the pride and the self glorification and the taxes. We we've really gotten away from just being good human
beings. And we're too we as people are easily trained by the television and the internet to tell us how we should feel and how we should act and when we fall in line ninety percent of the time. And it's because it's so easy. I mean literally, we just one click away. Seeing back in the day, you actually had to stand up, get up and move
this channel. Now it's just from a from a distance, You're like, click, click, click, click click, let's see what's on, you know, And yeah, it's so easy just to what what are they called when horses when they have those things, the blinders, you know, I mean like it's just easy just to you know, be blinder. Just stay right there. I was gonna ask you some there right now, but I went wait, I went on the whole different tangent. Man. I went blink, man, Yeah, it happens, you know, while you're doing
that. I wanted to add one more thing from the CDC when we talk about getting angry. This posted yesterday at noon. It said expecting a baby RSV. The leading cause of hospitalization for babies is spreading through the US. You can get a vaccine between weeks thirty two and thirty six of pregnancy. That kind of stuff just drives me crazy when you see pregnant people getting jabbed and then your baby's born and within the first two minutes they're jabbing up the
babies. Eh, that's it's uh good. There is uh trying to see something up about population, right, Yeah, what do they say? We're right now eight billion a fountain like that. It says by twenty forty five is supposed to be jumping up to nine billion people. But there is one thing. An article I saw a while ago as I'll meet you, typed in what would the population be in twenty Oh you're talking about the Degal Report. I think so, and it's supposed to be pop like zero zero kids
are supposed to be being born by then or something like that. Yeah, the US population is supposed to drop in twenty twenty five. According to the Digal Report, which they ended up pulling because it got some it ended up getting mainstream attention. It was supposed to drop to twenty five million something like
that in twenty twenty five. So you're talking in a little over a year that that's for that to be a true you're talking and again that is there's also another conspiracy that the population isn't really as much as they say it is. But I mean that is something we can't really prove. But you're talking about a mass dialalf of three hundred million people in a year. I don't know if that's that's the big chunk and the best of decent chunk. Yeah, now if they I'll tell you what, man, I don't know.
You're you're in Dallas the last and I've had the same conversation with a few of our guests the last few days, and they've all confirmed this. The amount of chemtrails that they've been spraying over the last week is something I've never seen in my entire life. It's been NonStop, dude. Okay, So going back, like going back, let's say when I was a kid, I would see a camtrow and I'm talking about when I was what maybe fifteen
fourteen fifteen. I would look up and I would see like one plane, you know, like yay, that's funny, Wiser played doing you know, snow trails or whatever, and then going you know, this is back in two thousand and four, two thousand and five, you know whatever, that
era of time. Going back to now, it's it's like fifteen times fifteen times what I would see, you know, I would literally see play tic tac toe with the with the chemtrails up there, like now they sprayed us, well, they spread us every I don't know, man, I say, do I see like fifteen different trails up there every day they're in COVID. There was a period of time where the trail stopped, and then it
kind of makes you think they stopped because there's no one outside. I mean literally, I would say we went with maybe two months, three months, but you will only see like one or two camtrolls the whole day, you know, and then you probably wouldn't even see him maybe a couple of days, you know, in between or whatever. Now it ramped up again. Every day I'm seeing kimtros So during COVID. I'm pretty sure now it kind of makes sense, not that many people were out and about why would they
waste resources spraying people? I just mean, I just don't putting two two together. I guess no, that's a great thought. I've never heard that. And if that's the case, that really makes a lot of sense and lends more creatives to the fact that they are spraying is because again, why would you waste the resources if everyone is inside. And with that being said, who do you think this is? Who do you think they are that's
actually doing the spraying. Is it like black government ops or is it military like being told, hey, we're we're doing this operator like line to the like your cloud seating, we're testing this cloud seating right now, man, I would think it's ci Ain doing that. CIA is Bully's strings and be like, hey, y'all need to do this because we're studying more air molecules or something exactly. They're ring, right, Yeah, that's just what it
is. Everything's and I'm pretty sure not like Okay, I've heard from your your podcast and many others like right now, I'm really I'm stuck on centripley. I don't know if you if you listen to them. Yeah, And either way, a lot of people talk like, you know, in between or whatever the guests like people say, you know, truthers would say, hey, it's NASA doing this, you know. But then when I'm seeing general I'm not saying just I'm to pinpointing one thing. Not everybody in NASA
or whatever establishment you are, they know what's going on. Only one or you know, if you select you know, and they's just like, okay, I need I need Bob over here to do this little thing, so I can, you know, and then James over there to do this other thing, and so forth, and so you know, so on, and then the people that know they get that stuff they gave whatever everyone else is making, and they know this is the actual plan they think they might be
making, you know, a certain special bullet for the ISS, you know what I mean. But the reality is something else, you know, and this is they tell them that we need that specification. So it's like really only a few know. But those few that know have different departments which they know, and only a few of those leaders in those departments now and so on and so forth. And that's how you can have a whole big old company such as NASSA or any other thing, you know, do a lot
of nefarious things without everybody really, Oh, how do they know? My uncle worked there? You know? So and so well, you know, what did your uncle really know? The top dude probably not, you know, so he was probably working on something, something shady, but the dude didn't know it was something shady, you know what I mean exactly. And I saw that same type of compartmentalization in the military as well. Uh, the bigger the organization. Everybody just has their their small piece of the pie
that they focus on. So sure, maybe you worked for NASA or in the military, but you didn't have you weren't at the top of the food chain. Were literally you have it, you know, the highest top secret, you know, and only a handful of people know at the top. And again those people get selected. Even in the military, once you get to a certain rank, you get selected. It's not based on merit or anything else. You were simply selected and you got to be part of the
club. Whether it's the military, whether it's music, whether it's entertainment or politics. You've got to be in the club. Damn man. They don't want they don't want know regular Joe blow, you know, being able to have a chance to actually run the place and see what's actually going on. You know, they want they want to keep the inner circle, you know, within themselves and when the government tells you know, if you work hard enough and if you study, anybody can be president of the United States.
But then you have people from the same family getting elected. Hello, we'll get doubt. Do you not see what's going on here? Is this possible? Why is uh? Yeah, dude stays in the same basically same bloodline. Man, Like it's it's it's insane. Yeah. My dad always said, you know, you should be the president of the United States, and as a kid, yeah, I believe that. Yeah I could that I
could have. But then you know, growing up and you always see the same characters just different, you know, different different person, but just same character, doesn't matter. It could be anybody up there, but it's the same person up there. It's not no one different. It's nobody from you know, no one from freaking I don't know any old state. You never see anybody from from that came actually from nowhere and actually became something in you
know, and is doing anything. It's always from their club every time. Yeap never fails. Yeah, even Obama, he worked for that same corporation where the CIA selects their people. And again, the CIA as pretty much between that and a few oligarchs like black Rock. They're the ones who are really running things that they're telling Biden what to say. You know, Biden
is not sitting behind a computer writing legislature. He's worried about what time is ice cream and nap time is, and that's just really again more mockery. That That's why I think we are kind of and again I'm not a prophet or anything, but I think we are headed toward end times because look at all the mockery they've done to us lately. They got Biden as president, that the mockery of COVID and just the propaganda that they put out today is
like, really, you think we're that dumb? I imagine playing this back in Hell. I'm trying to say back in the early nineties, it would be really really radical, way left, totally left, Like what this is what they're playing? You know what I mean? If you take all the propaganda you bring it back thirty years, you know, people are going to be like, dude, that I can't believe this is a movie, right, This is this, It's what we're going through. Ever sent that movie
Idiocracy? Of course it's it's a documentary. It's exactly documentary. And now it's just like I don't only want to watch that movie because it's it's I'm living in it right now. Man, I'm like literally living it. Yeah, I don't want to watch that movie at all. Yeah, when you see people and you know the clips and even in personne on, when you walk to a Walmart some of the things, you're right, it is,
we're certainly living that one hundred percent. I'm like you, I just had something really Oh okay, Sue said, going back to the nineties, But if you think about it that they did a lot of mockery in the sixties to think about this JFK and the magic bullet theory, right, how ludicrous is that even in the late eighties early nineties, that Seinfeld episode where they made fun of it with they had a baseball player a Keith R. Nandez, and they made a whole skit about the magic loogie that he spit.
But everybody mocked it, but people still accepted it. I remember that. And then just six years after the JFK assassination, you know, we're on the moon, and again you look at the basic things like if you believe the globe theory and you believe there's a van Allen belt and the heat in it, there's no way that aluminum craft could have got through there, which just melted and disintegrated, you know, and again that's just based on the
globe theory, which we know is a lie. But again it's they've known and I've said this before, and I think this is really an underrated event. When in nineteen I think it was October thirtieth, nineteen thirty eight or thirty nine, they played orson Wells War of the World's on the radio and like seven million people in America called nine one Well it was operator back then
from emergency server. They didn't have nine to one one. Yet people were shooting their local water towers because they played it it night and they thought the water towers like a UFO landing. Just all these weird stories and they're like, these people are idiots, don't believe anything we tell them. And I think, you know, that's really when they started the propaganda, because uh, you know, realized like they accidentally found something, you know what I
mean. I oh wait, wait, we can take advantage to this guy to come on, now, let's let's see what we can do. Yeah. I see the roth Child sitting at a table throwing money down. I bet you will tell them we land on the moon in sixty nine and they'll believe it. Yeah, I did it all. Okay, So when I when I think about Rothschilds or whatever, I really feel like it's like, uh, I'm gonna bring a lot of Simpsons man, Like I feel like
it's mister Burns. Yeah, while I was like, oh, X, you know, like you're not going to take over the human race man. No, it's it's bad. It's unfortunately. I think it's because like we're as a humans, humans and you know we are, we tend to be glogible, We can be googable, you know, so I mean, really each you know a lot of people take, you know, things that face value for for what you know, they really do. I mean, I've
done it. I'm sure you have. So it's it's because we're good natured, I guess, and in a way, at least I at least at least I try to think that we are. That's why I think that,
you know what I mean, That's why that's why I say that. And we really can't see another human do something evil toward something else, So that's why we we That's why a lot of people, I would say, they stay asleep because they can't they can't imagine someone really doing what was going on, like, for instance, in Epstein's Island when it comes to kids and and and all that a regular human being came by. No, that's just
something you see in movies. That's just something you see in movies. But like, yeah, you see saying you see it in movies because it happens. You know it's something real. You know it's something real. You don't just think of something if you, I mean really, if you really, whatever you think of, it's already been thought of before. So what makes you think someone can't do something evil to another person just because you won't do it, you know what I mean? Yeah, tell them, And that's
gonna lead me to a question back to you. But first I want to mention I'll put this link in the show notes. Fact check is the Simpsons character mister Burns based on banker Jacob Rothschild, and they both they have their pictures next to each other and they look exactly the same. But of course Snope says false. Which if Snope says false, then it's true obviously. But going back to what you just said. On September eleventh, that night, Dick Cheney, George Bush, they went to bed, and I'm sure
they had a great night's sleep, didn't lose a wink. So and again that is one of the reasons people won't dig deep. They're like, oh, there's no way George Bush would allow, you know, be behind something like that. So let me ask you this, what are your thoughts on these people who do these type of Like it's one thing for a human being to kill someone in a fit of rage, right, maybe they had too
much to drink. They're just like a like going back to coincidence, a whole bunch of remarkable things have to happen alcohol, just the psychological nature, and all these things lead up and a guy murder somebody and in most cases they end up regretting it the rest of their lives. And then there's people like the Bushes and the Chainings Chinese who get off on the the you know, mass killing and and the mass suffering of humanity. So my question to
you is, are they just psychopaths? Are they do they have a certain bloodline where they don't have that switch like you and I have, or what are your thoughts on that? Uh? Oh that was a good one, man, Uh decent this. I can't say they've been desynthesized correctly. Oh yeah, desensified basically. Yeah yeah, So okay, so let me put this okay in this analogy should answer that question. So me playing this video game red that Redemption. There's this little bar on the bottom right where it
says good or evil. Right when I first started the game, I was all trying to be good, good, good, good good, right, and I in the game it's it's made by rock Stars, just you know, killing all that good stuff or whatever, not really good stuff, but it's all that bad stuff. Somehow, I I noticed that my my, my bar between evil and good was on the more evil side. So I was trying to make it, you know, be good. And that's a
lot harder. It's a lot harder. But once you've done a lot of a lot more evil stuff, like for instance, in the game killing or whatever, it becomes easier. It's just like, eh, I just killed that dude for a cup, for a couple of bucks whatever. So if you put it in the grander scale, he's like, it's only a cup. Thousand people and then and eleven that's whatever. You know, I'm still getting a million dollars yere, you know what, you know what I mean?
So he basically deluded that idea of him being evil. It's just like it's just whatever. It's just another day at the office for him. And the more you do it, and I'm pretty sure he has a long line of doing I'm pretty sure the first time he got bribed he was like, Okay, I don't know about this, and then the next time it just became easier and easier and easier. That's what I was kind of going at. It's just it just becomes easy first for one human to actually go either
with that either path. Really, if it's easier for him, just and fuck, I'll just take this big old bribe, kill a couple million, a thousand people this day. Okay, cool, you know it's symbolic. Okay, yeah, sure, whatever, dude, And that's probably how he did. You know, after a while, it got to that level where he just didn't care and he slept well at night. Really, and that goes to anybody. Really, that's probably the best answer I ever got when
I asked that question. And as you were giving that answer, I thought to myself, if I took a chicken to an Amish person and said, hey, can you clean this for me in five minutes? Without a doubt, not a worry, not of stress. They kill it, do their thing. Da da da da dah. But if you take to somebody who's never done it before, like my neighbor or anybody in the suburbs or somebody like that, they would stand there for an hour two hours crying, worrying
about having to kill a chicken. Whereas the Amish, it's they understand, that's part of the circle of life. That's what they do. That's how they feed their family. And boom boom boom, the mom, the dad, the children, they're all there, whether it's pulling the feathers. So that is a great analogy that I think there's almost nothing in life that people can get used to. But it's really hard to swallow that mass killings and suffering would be normalized for people. But you made a great point, a
great point, and that's probably the case. Yeah, I just feel like, I mean, and I noticed that it's a long ago and it's just a video game, you know what I mean. Like I noticed I was just going along in the oh, let me just rob this dude here, and it just becomes so easy. I was really trying to be all good, so I'm assuming maybe it's just me being human about it. I'm assuming
these politicians that put airpotes. Yeah, I'm assuming they probably go in with the best intentions, but we're human and they buck up and then they just that's the line they take off, you know. Oh, well it's easier doing it this way. You know. That's just my take on it, And that's probably why it's so easy for them to do all these these evil
acts. For sure, for sure. And by no means am I comparing a chicken to a human being, right, But but you get you get, you get where I'm coming from, right, It's it's a normalization process, right, Yeah, it would be great. Yeah, I just wanted to reinforce that to people. I wanted to kind of got our way back into flat earth for a little bit, because I wanted you to share your six silver bullets for the normy glovers, both with the from the scientific angle,
but you also have a few from a religious angle. So I'll let you take the floor my six silver bullets when it comes to and by all means, listeners, I am just now getting into this into into the biblical aspect of stuff. But from what I can from what I've gathered. My first silver bullet would be NASA. It equals deceived and Hebrew, you know that just means deceive. My second bullet would be that earth tilt and all of NASA's calculations add up to six sixty six. My third bullets would be
Polaris is stationary. My fourth bullet would be that water is level, seeks level, and I yet to see any level any water stick to any ball, unless it's just a little little little drop of water. Uh. And the last two songs nineteen one with bon bronze tombstone, which obviously state that
there's a firmament up up above, and the Book of Genesis. That's my religious my my religious sore bullets, just because I mean, really, if if you're a god seeker, you know truth, I mean, really, just enough right there, just six sixty six and all their calculations should be the eye openers. And also with the water being level. Now with my
regular bullets would be uh, we see too far. Video and photography we just you know, at one video or that photography of the Chicago skyline and then that one of the mountain peaks that were seven hundred miles long or far away. You know, that's just that's that's phenomenal right there. Another bullet would be that we are corkscrewing through space and explaining that to a globe.
I mean, like when it got explained to me that we're doing all that crazy stuff, you know, aerobatic slash and whatnot, that just kind of like that was a brick wall to my to my mind, man, I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, that makes no sense. Also, another good one would be the moonshade is warmer in the moonshade is warmer
than the moon lights. That's an interesting one and I actually got to prove out myself, and I was just mind blown because like the next thing, you know, I learned from you know, we're going around the Sun and the Moon's going around us in some outeries in the Sun and the Moon are the same size. But I mean, what even though the ninety three million miles away, it just makes no sense, doesn't make any sense. Another thing would be the treaty. Why is it that we're at peace with the
treaty and the Arctic Treaty. But yet again, where I wore when it comes to to anything else, all of NASA and aviation pilots. They they're uh, they're graphs their paper when when they're they're briefs, you know, when they're learning it says fly like you are in a stationinary plane like that means you're not moving, So that what what else? You know that Look it all up, guys, everybody just look it up and it's it's there.
And then yeah, that was my last one for the regular bullets, so it's it's so yeah, I brought two related you know, one, two different opinions for depending on what my situation will be like you know what I mean. Yeah, they were, They're all great, and a couple
I wanted to touch on was that like the numbers. Obviously, I think most people know what the six sixty six is, whether or not you're religious or not right, so, and all of them, whether it's the axis which is twenty three point four, subtract that from right angle you got sixty six point six, you know, early at sixty six thousand, and again it goes back to the old coincidence that you know one or two, sure,
but you just can't look at all of them. And also one that we've mentioned before, and by the way, I've mentioned this a couple of days ago. We're going to do a standalone episode in the next week or so where I'm just going to for an hour kind of explain like Manly p Hall's The Numbers and the Symbols where he said that once man understands their secrets, which are numbers and symbols, a great veil will fall upon mankind.
And part of that happened in twenty twenty with COVID. But it's important people learn how to, you know, read and understand the numbers and symbols that are put in front of us. But the other one you had mentioned Psalms nineteen one on Von Brown's Tombstone and speaking of rabbit holes because you said, you know, you went flat Earth first, spit back out. Now you're starting to go into different things. Have you looked into the operation pay per
clip yet? Oh? Man, Yeah, apriclip you always the other one. It's Dominic, Yeah yeah, Dominic and Fishball. I said, it's Steff Fishball. Ever we go, it's just so many dude, Like really, I just like dove in like but deep end, what's up? Yeah? When it comes to uh who circum was it? Uh? We went around the talk tide. I forgot the guy's name that went around the whole Antarctic and he charted, uh what three years on that three years and sixty
thousand miles or something. I mean, if you look at all the old data and you're trying to like see that can even be another bullet point right there, because how can you chart three years out there sixty six thousand miles? And yet again they're saying that it's only what twelve thousand and so you know when you can go around Antarctica it's in twelve thousand miles or whatever. Yeah, how can you not take what's old information and bringing into something just
because someone else says it's not true? You know what I mean? So, yeah, I got into paper Clip into a high jump. I looked at all that and that's where, like I said, it brought me into two part flatter and I just forgot all the names, and there's just so much information. There's just so much information. And when they uh, which was it where the paper clip was the one where they brought all the scientists, all the Nazi scientists over and then Walt Disney and uh Stanley made that
all that lone landing. Yeah, Stanley Cooper. Yeah, great movie, movie recommended. Huh. The lighting on that movie was was pretty great. Man. You can see yeah, I you see shadows going back and forth. Yeah, yeah. How can you trust the U Nazis man or you know, you didn't? Really Nazi didn't lose a war Germany. He did And that's something that that that's that has to be true because they came over and they started all the rockets, they started shooting them up, realizing you
can't break through the firmament, which I don't really like. I have a question for you. Do you think that in Europe? Do you think that we lived in a dome or or or how? How do you believe the firmament is? I think the firmament is something that's unbreakable. There's something in the Bible having in front of me right now that kind of lays it out where it's it ever expanding and obviously God made something that only he could destroy. He made it too. I think it's clear to a certain extent.
I do think it's kind of clear, but there's no way man could get through it. But if you look at the chain of events, you know, in the right after World War One, high jump. I think they did find the firmament. They realized that we were enclosed. So and they did try with dominic and uh fish bowls, sending those huge missiles kill a ton missiles trying to break through. They couldn't do that, see, and I I mean, I don't mean to endure up, yeah, trying to
bit out you think so? So you think there were using those as lights and mapping it out, well, I mean both. I mean they're gonna hey, you know, the two birth one stone. They try to try to break through and then see how big this this, this, this, this, this this spermament is. That's a good point, Like you know, they started up and they because I seen I saw the pictures, I've seen the all that good stuff and this show that seems like they were really
trying to pinpoint how big or how massive it was as well. You know what I mean, why wouldn't you. Yeah, maybe they were trying to get means there, you know what I mean? Yeah, maybe they were trying to get a correct altitude of high how high the firmament is? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. See, and I feel like like a lot of people think that we are in the dome, and I used to think that
when I first got you know, I started diving into it. And then uh, I was watching a lot of Sean Higler's of videos and is his podcast interviews or whatever, and he kind of makes sense, See water makes water levels, right, And if the sentence the waters above as the water's below, right, what makes you think that maybe the waters above is at level as well? It's just a plain field, Like maybe we are in a in a just an infinite playing field, just like space would be.
You know, it's infinite, how they would maybe the top Maybe NASA is in quotes telling us somewhat of the truth that there is outer space, you know, infinite space, and maybe it's just an infinite plane instead. You know, that's just where I started, Like that's where I resident now. It's like, you know what, we are probably in an infinite, infinite plane, which also makes me think that we might be in a simulation because obviously, if there's a creator, I feel like, hey, you know
what, this is his simulation of what he's thinking. He sees what he made this, and this is what we are in his creation. So that also goes to where, you know, what was that explorer that flew over Attarctica and then he found other lands, which, yeah, I feel like it wouldn't be it wouldn't be documented if there wasn't anything else, especially if he's in the military back in the day. I'm sure he's not trying to do get home. I'm gonna make a cool little book here. I'm gonna
just write extra stuff. Yeah, I don't see I don't see a military military. I mean, I guess now, yes, but like it's all I'm back, you know, in those times. I don't think they would be messing around. I'm just gonna write a little science fiction book and or fiction book whatever. And so I feel like we are in an infinite plane where we are literally like in the video game, it's just playing flat. Obviously there's mountains and hills and valleys and whatnot, but we are an enclosed
plane system, infinite plane system. Yeah, And with that being said, that's possible. And again, if if you could only really humanly go so far to be away from the sunlight, et cetera, where the temperatures would probably be so insane you couldn't survive, that's interesting, I mean, And then once again it goes back to we'll never know because they they've outlawed us.
We can't go down there again. You can pay twenty thousand dollars to take into Deception Island or or Rothschild's Island, but you're not free to explore down there, which is again we hate Russia so much. But as far as Antarctica were buddies, and as far as the International Space Station, we're buddies. But everything else we hate you. Yeah for real. Yeah, and it's interesting. I mean if I was if I won the lottery, if I got billions of dollars, I wouldn't even spend that on me.
I would be like, hey, I'd pay everybody hundreds of thousand dollars. Let's go, Yeah, let's go. Let go. What's down there? Guys? All your experiences, it's it's done and paid for it. Why don't we make that movie Assault on an Antarctica? We should? We should, And yeah, it's like we'll adopt it like Red Dawn, except where
going to Antarctica? Right right? Yeah? Having greaty, you know what, even if you know what, even if someone were to say, hey, you know what, I'd pay everybody just to storm the the the wall of the Antarctica A lot of people wouldn't even do it. Oh no, even if it's like guaranteed paid, you know, you just storm the the I guess suors. Let's say they wouldn't do it, man, and I would. That's kind of sad. I don't know why people don't want to
explore. I was telling this too. I was talking to my to my to my girlfriend now at the time and now, and and I said I would totally just go. And she's like, why why would you go? I'm like, because man, there's could be other land out there. It could be anything down there. You know. She's like, well, I'm I'm have my life ear. I'm like, okay, whatever, dude. I'm actually so glad I can talk to her. She's a glover. She's gonna listen to this. It's a time I was just gonna listen to it.
If she's gonna go out and listen to it anyway, Yeah, I called her clover. But either way, she she lets me, she lets me, she lets me express myself. So it's pretty cool. That's over. That's awesome really being you know in this is kind of like your your circle friends kind of just shrink a little bit. Yep. I'm all good. I mean you can see you all your true friends are. I guess another another great analogy you made was polarius, because if we are spinning and
hurdling, why isn't it in a different place all the time. And I think that's an important piece of the puzzle too, to understand that it's it's a skyclock. We're not moving the sky is Yeah, it's because the light's so bright or whatever. I forget how David, why is breaks it down? But it's so far but yetty and so bright and you know it's it's a natalle just lie when it comes to that, which to me and one
of the things that brought me closer, I mean that closer. I mean it well brought me and kind of realized and helped me realize that we were in a plane in a station area plane was I have stigmatism, right, so you know I have a shaped eyeball. I take in the light a lot different than most people. So when I take in light, I see rays and no matter what, I guess what, you can say the distances
I see the different rays, that's her rays, no matter what. So when I looked at the sun, I imagine myself I imagined like there's a post in the sun is basically a light post from outside, you know what I mean, a daily light post, And I just imagine there's a post. So I if any all your listeners, can you bear with me trying to explain what I see and how I with how I basically analogy that analogize
even a word that we are that the sun is local. So me looking at the sun, I pretend that there's a that's on the post, and if you ever walk under the post, you can see. Man, all I'm trying to say is, dude, ninety three million miles away does not make a sense. And after everything that does not make sense, I'm trying to really express myself with this so your audience can understand where I come from. When it comes to the sun rays. When you're looking at a light
the sun, the light the rays goes straight forward. When you're in a in a when the light is close to you, that's when you can see the rays going off to the different size, to the different angles and whatnot. So if y'all imagine that the sun is on the post, you can just walk under it and you can literally basically see that it's a local light source that it's not coming from almost one hundred million miles away, you know
what I mean, Like, that's just outrageous. So that I guess that's one lucky thing of me having a statementism that made me realize easier to comprehend that we are in an enclosed system. So nope, I explained it, not blach to that. No, that was clear. And the one last thing of one of your bullets I wanted to touch on was the photography and the video one. Obviously we can see too far, which proves the curvature.
But and this is something that we should talk about more as a community, is the things they portray as stars and planets in their pictures and what we see with our own eyes are two completely different things, and they should be made to answer for that. Oh, I agree with you. I agree with you. I'm like, I can't afford a breaking P nine hundred
or P one thousand and their expensive cameras. But the people that actually the videos that I seen produced by those cameras up to the stars and just they look pretty different op to do what they're compared to what they are compared to what NASA is telling the population. You can see that they look like they are underwater, like they glimmer. They you know, they're they're reflective,
they're whatever, but they look like they are underwater of some sort. And also have you seen I don't know if you notice the when you look at your camera and you look at the moon and you zoom in, it's at first it's it's kind of blurry, and we use them in clear, you know, closer, it renders to look like a nice moon. Yep, therefore it's it's fake. That's even big too. Yeah, I don't know
if you've ever done that before. Next time you go out and outside, go with your camera, look up the moon, zoom in with your own camera. Because it's connected to the enginet, your camera cannot recognize it. And you can even do it at your house with the with the with the clear uh white paper as a moon. Yeah, you know, make a little bit dark or whatever and zoom in. It will render all the craters and stuff on your on your phone. Interesting. Yeah, it's pretty cool,
little trie. I've done it once a couple of days ago, a couple I've done it a couple of times a couple of days ago. I just couldn't believe myself. I was just like, what the hell, dude, I have the own personal moon in my house, in my room. It was it was pretty cool. It was a pretty cool little little trick
which I want to video and actually show people that they can do. Yeah, and it's a shame because a lot of people in the suburbs and the city have a lot of light pollutions, so they can't get a clear shot. I'll never forget I was in Uh actually I was in California, Fort Irwin, California, which is where the National Training Center is. And also in certain places in Iraq when there's no light pollution, the skies are incredible. And I really wish I had something like a P one thousand in those
places to just get crystal clear renders of these things. And again, I've had people who send me videos of the stars and the planets and it is nothing what NASA. You know, they paint these colorful things with the rings of s and just all these other Now when you look at Saturn, uh, you know, it does have a little ring and it's kind of sideways, but it's silver goldish, right, And and again, like you said, especially with the stars, uh, and again it goes back to Genesis
one. It looks like it is in the firmament because it's shimmering like light, like it's in water. Yeah, and yeah, it's I don't know why I did see, man, but it's it's a it's a lie on top of the lies. It is. For sure. This has been a banger of an interview. I've had a lot of fun talking to you. I wanted to give you the floor for any other things that you wanted to cover. If you haven't yet, you know, I know, I'm I'm gonna be helping Dave where I here. But your listeners, if you have
not gotten that app, check that app out. I'm learning a lot, guys. I'm like, I'm new to this and that app just opens up so many doors. Check out Sean Hitler's uh flu next always level level with me in Next Level. If anyone wants to talk to me about it, Man, I'm new to this. I'm I'm open for any discussion. Really, Uh, just open your eyes, man. If it doesn't seem like it's right, just check it out. That's really all i'd say. Man. And if like I said, hit me up on Facebook or Instagram or
whatever, and I'm here to chat with y'all. Yeah, for sure. Make sure I'll put Dave's link in the in the show notes as well, as long as make sure you use our our code. It's f E files and we get a little not not financial credit for it, but we're like we're number six out of all the people, so that lets Dave know that people are here in the show, and uh, they're going over there to
to help him out because Dave works is behind off. He does two sometimes three in reviews a day and he's done more for the flat Earth community than anybody else does, so I'm glad to help him out. And on top of that, it's just such a great tool. Every single day you get a new video. During the week it's like five minutes. In the weekends
it's a little longer. There's a question mark you click on that it answers almost every question that you could have from well, it doesn't answer questions, but it'll give you things to ponder on so you can draw the answers yourself. So definitely check that out. And of course, Mario his email will
be in the show description. It's Megatrocity three at outlook dot com. And then I'm going to close this podcast with two questions to Mario because obviously you're listening to this podcast, but you can't see all the Beatles memorabilia, memorabilia that's behind him. So I'm gonna ask you, what's your favorite Beatles song? Oh, dude, on well my guitar gently wee? Oh man, have you ever heard Prince and Tom Petty play that at the uh that memorial
show? No, I didn't get a chance to. Well, when you're done here, go to YouTube and it's Prince he plays the guitar and Tom Petty and Jeff Lynn and I think one of the children of one of the Beatles, maybe it's Harrison's kid. And it's such an awesome it's like seven minutes long. It's really awesome. Great song though, can't go wrong with that. And then did Paul die in sixty six? Or is that a hoax? Yeah? You know what, I kind of believe he did. Man, I don't want it to be true, but I kind of I
actually dove in, like I dove into it and did a lot. The face structure, man, the base structure is just slightly off. I mean, I maybe because of age or whatever. You want to call him, but I feel like he got replaced back in sixty six and that's why they stopped touring and whatnot. Yeah, one of the videos it might be if he died. Maybe he died in was it Strawberry Fields? Or when he starts playing the guitar right handed and they nudge him and then he starts playing
left handed over and he's starts playing it. Yeah, I think it was Strawberry Field. You know what? Another another flatter flat Earth. I don't know if you have a little bit of time. The movie Yellow Submarine, right, Yeah, sure, I don't know if he's seen it, but there's this and this kind of goes into the whole meat thinking of the infinite plane. Right. So there's a scene in the movie where they're in the
Yellow Submarine. The Beatles are trying to gather each other out to find so they could buy they could bite the Blue Nannies, which if you haven't seen The Yellow Submarine, it's a very good musical video of them and whatnot. And there's a scene where they walk into a room and there's full of heads, right, and they're all like like white. I guess I don't know how to describe it was just white heads, but in the middle you can
see the brain, and the brain is just like different pictures. And there's one picture where it has the has the United States, has uh, British and has England and has other different things in every year, and there's like hundreds of them, right And to me, I kind of I kind of broke it down to them showing a map of like the don't like the different ponds. That's to what I took from it from that video. So and also, man, there's there's a lot of stuff that I wanted to talk
about. Man, it's so much. There's also uh the four Corners when it when Flanders from Simpsons is talking to part and I don't know, I mean, I don't know. I think you can hear this audio this Holidays
commercials boo YouTube. I'll turn up the stream. Hey oh yeah. So basically right there when he walked up, he walked up in the little hill and to me, it's another flat Earth reference because they're basically in sprinkld is located in uh In in the middle of the United States, and in the top of the hill and they can see the four corner, they can see the io Nevada, and I forgot the other four cities. But to me, that's a flat earth preference where you can see long distance. Y.
Yeah, yeah, the truth. That's a lot. That's awesome, man, It's been a great conversation and uh a link up again down the road. It's it's a great time. And I like to uh sometimes keep a light to and have a conversation about the beat because again, uh, they do tell the truth and they use the media and entertainment music as disclosure. So you've got to really be pay attention and be aware of everything in your surrounding. So again, man, it was a great conversation. God bless
you. Any final words for the listeners. Yes, Uh, the greatest trick the devil, the devil ever pulled was pretending he never existed. Ye. Yeah, that was Paul Harvey back in sixty six. He gave that. He gave that speech too. That was tremendous. Yeah, great advice. Well again, thank you to all the listeners for your continued support. Thank you Mario for your time and your insights. A lot of a lot of great insight today, So thank you all. God blessed for Mario.
I'm George. Keep your head on a swivel. God, bless y'all. And until the next time we meet my friends, we will see. Uh. I know it's been a struggle. I don't know if you've had time. Tell don't by all the way? Yeah, don't you feel more? Your smile ain't the same. I saw wall go from you. I feel like you've lost your way. Don't give up, No, don't give it. But never this home. Don't let go on the primise. It ain't done yet. He's gone up, plaid. Why it's a right time?
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