Episode 116: Flat Earth Conversation with Jared

Welcome back, truth Seekers. Just a brief message before we begin our interview with Jared, which just concluded. It was a great conversation and I hope you enjoyed it. I just wanted to take a moment to say thank you. Tonight is actually the one year anniversary of this podcast, and I think we've had one hundred and twenty two episodes during that time, and I wanted to take the opportunity to say thank you to all the listeners and all the

people who have taken the time to email and send letters. But I really want to take a moment and say thank you to all the people who have taken their time and came on this podcast and told their stories. Over the last year. There has been some tremendous stories that have touched a lot of people, and I can't thank you all enough for having the conviction to share your stories and exposing your personal life and your feelings and the things that you've

dealt with in your life. And I'm here to tell you they resonate with each and every person. I've gotten so many emails over the past year that specifically state that so thank each and every one of you, and ladies and gentlemen, we have big things coming next year in twenty twenty four. More on that in the coming days and weeks, but we have new things coming, bigger things coming, and hopefully you will be a part of it.

I hope everybody had a great Thanksgiving. Our family had a wonderful Thanksgiving. My daughter got engaged, my wife's had some family come down Sunday night. I guess they got here. So a lot of family time, and I hope you all have the opportunity to spend quality time with your family as well. God bless each and every one of you. Just wanted to take a moment and thank you, and without any further ado, here is our interview

with Jared. The following presentation Isnadel Marve Studio's production. Welcome back to truth seekers from around the world. It's time for another edition of the Flat Earth Files. I hope this podcast finds you well. We've had a very special guest joining us tonight and we're going to jump right into it. Please help me. Welcome Jared to the show. Jared, how are you doing to night? Sir? Yeah, hey, good man, how you doing great?

Had a nice conversation before beforehand. It's great to meet you, and please take a moment introduce yourself to the audience. Yeah, my name is Jared from like south mid South Florida. Just working and trying to keep this whole thing going and crazy times that we're in and I've been I was raise

like fairly normally like most people. I was reading Christian IF and yeah, I mean as I'm married, I have I have five kids and an amazing I have an amazing wife that is very much, very much at support through this process of of waking up in this this guid of journey that we're on here. That's awesome and that's very important. Yeah, it's huge. I can't I can't even stress. I have friends that that don't have quite the same thing. I had a lot of friends to do, but I just

I can't even imagine without that. Yeah, for sure, and with I'm not getting into any specifics here, but I wanted to ask you this because I was not entrepreneur self employeed God myself in the past. With what has happened over the last several years and the hyper inflation and the supply control issues, have you noticed a big difference and has the has the bottom line affected you so yeah, that that's kind of interesting. So where I'm at,

I'm in a part of Lorda that really doesn't suffer much from that. I hate to say that because I'm not trying to be weird about it. But it's a very wealthy area. It's one of the top growing city in the country, I believe, and we get we have a lot of people with a lot of resources. Will say and uh, we get, we get fairly sheltered. I mean obviously, like in oh nine, things went really sou oh yeah, but when they pulled all like COVID done, I mean,

things got like awkward and inconvenient. But like as far as like real impact, I'm I'm an electrician, so I'm I'm like in a trade so I mean, I I don't really know. There's probably people that like more like retail obviously that had issues, but not not so much. Media was we stay thankfully, we stay pretty steady. That's great to hear it.

I encourage a lot of people, you know, if you're leaning towards college, if if you have a specific need, if you're going to be a registered nurse or doctor, obviously any college, but really you're getting into a trade school right now, is just it's a tremendous opportunity and you're not going to get buried into into one hundred and thousands of dollars in day oh anymore.

You know, like when I was coming up in the trade, would not not yesterday it bothas would pay for you to go to school, you know, obviously not this kind of school that makes your start your own business, but they would pay for your your on the job training. Yep. My oldest almost eighteen, he'll probably be let you do this the point and he he's gotta be. He's going to be going into the trade at some point. I'm pretty I'm pretty happy about. Yeah. I'm sure you're related,

and God bless your five children like myself. And how long have you been married? I had been married for a eighteen years. Well, congratulations, that's awesome. Yeah, let's talk a little bit about I'm sorry, go ahead, that didn't mean to interrupt you. I didn't know I didn't you have you have you have white children as well? Yeah, we've got five children, seven grandchildren, and we'll have number eight in January. Think she's due January the eleventh. Wow, that's amazing, that's the Yeah,

big families are are not boring? No, not at all. Oh my gosh. No. My my brother in law, he has he's married, he had he had six kids. And my best friend John shout out. Jonathan's well, dude, my best friends Don he has five kids. And when we all it's mean, try to go to a restaurant with that many people. It's it's a thing. Yeah, over the surreal thing. When we roll up, it's like we take up half the restaurant. Yeah, we we you we would we Actually, me and John have been on vacation

together twice. Then we would go to like we'd like gone up to the mountains because you know, we're Florida. We don't have the freaking mountains here. We get to like North Florida, we take that mountain, but like we go to North Carolina and like some of the small town in North Carolina and when you go out to a restaurant and you have thirteen people, you

call ahead. Yeah. It was just always kind of funny to go in those restaurants to say, yeah, twenty of thirteen and like you know the kind of game where you know, the dude box stops when you walk in because you're not around there yep, the record scratches. Everybody turns around and look at you. Yeah. Yeah. So tell me a little bit about your awakening process. How long ago was it, What was kind of the first rabbit hole that you came upon. Yeah, So, unfortunately, I'm

not super rivolved when it comes to that. I was raised. I was raise basically like everything is exactly what you think. There's no you know, there's not really anything fifty about our government. There's not really anything weird going on. And you know, when nine to eleven happened, I was eighteen, all of nineteen, and I was actually I was not living at home at the time, so it was kind of like, oh, you're moved

out of the house and now like we're going to war. Yeah. And at the time, you know, I would meeting my wife and doing all that kind of stuff, and I thought, I remember thinking like very soon on, I'm not going to coim right away, but I remember thinking like fairly soon on, like this just doesn't seem this doesn't seem like what's going

on. So I guess, like I guess the answer. The answer that is is definitely COVID sparked me looking at things, and I guess it was kind of fortunate that my wife and I woke up at the same time, and I would say nine eleven, and I know you're gonna be You're gonna one hundred percent understand sure, but nine to eleven is maybe the biggest freaking deal that's ever happened in my view in some ways, just the from of the alchemy to the just all of it. I mean, you break down

the numerology, everything that went in nine to eleven. I don't know that we'll ever really quite get it all, because it's one of the few subjects that every time I look into it, I learned something else and I'm like, oh my gosh, you got to be kidding me. Yeah, I'm the same way, And I've changed my mind several times about things, not about that it was a nefarious activity with people behind it. Then the official story was a lie, but you know how it was executed, who was

behind it, those things. Over the years, I've certainly changed my mind because and I've recently, just over the last couple of days, been sent some information and some different video shots from different angles I've never seen before. So it's it's again, But you're right, we'll probably never get the truth, but it's hard to get to the truth when everything is a lie, right yeah, yeah, And that and that was like, that was the biggest thing. That was the biggest thing for me, was being in you

know, I'm not the owner. I don't own the company I work for, but I am one of the managers and I'm I'm my boss. My boss is really the great guy, and he runs the company. You know, the managers that we do what we do, kind of do what we want inside of you know, within third and balance. So I'm kind of looking after my own part of the company so to speak. And that being said, you know, I'm I'm the guy at home depot in the morning

getting set Yep. That that part of it just oh man, just the freaking the word that gave me right now, the the I guess it's dron DRACRONI in the right word. Just just the fact of like how they put everybody into this like mass hypnosis over fear, and they really had people just like moving their minds like people like it divided people. I don't want to get into like personal name with me, but like I had people that I care about a lot that would not deal with me because my wife and I

my wife. My wife has been anti backed before it was cool to be anti back, but like just would not deal with us in the same way. And you know, I loot communication with some people that were really close to me over COVID and only recently kind of regained that. And it was that it was that process of going through that and saying, and I'm not gonna be like, oh, I just wouldn't be getting because I didn't know.

I just knew that it was weird and something didn't feel right. But I would say when I realized, hold on a second, they're lying about this, Like I know they're lying about this now, like they're demonstrably lying about this, And all of a sudden it was like, well, what if I look back at the things that like nine to eleven, And it was all of a sudden just that state. It's almost to the point where not to be like play Devil's Advocate, but it was almost to the point

where like you had to stop and think. I always say to everybody, but there had to been a freaking think tank sitting around going okay, we're gonna okay, we're gonna pull the full thing, and uh, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna endadvertently, we're gonna wake up ex percent of people. Oh, we're gonna get expercent. Yeah, but I do that, I do believe. I do believe probably get like you.

What about getting a shot in every arm? Yeah, And but your story is a common story where when I ask people, whether it's uh, you know, in an interview or just offline having a conversation COVID, most of the people who are awake today, I would say at least, well, it might be high, but it seems like half the people I've talked to over the last few years, COVID was part of a major part of

their awakening process. And here's here's this is a two ways of thinking, right, I'm sure if I don't know, if you've been kind of just paying attention to the news, like I kind of keep an eye on it just to see what they're throwing at us. I don't sit down and watch an hour CNN or anything, but I'll kind of peruse the internet to sy was the propaganda they're shooting at now. The big thing is China's white lung syndrome is now being reported in Massachusetts, and it's pretty you know, it's

starting to sound just like what was going on back four years ago. Right, it started in November with the videos coming out of China. And the other thing is it is an election year, but I don't I'm not to say, and there's an election coming up? What are what are the odds? But my thing is, and here's where I wonder, do they really think they can get people again after that? That? Like we didn't fall for it the first time, or was the first time a trick just to

get the shots? And the second time? Are they really going to release something? You know what I'm saying. I know, I know there's a lot of people. We got a whole conversation. Go ahead. Yeah, I'm definitely on the I'm definitely spent a lot of time, you know, when COVID happened, It's been a lot of time thinking about, you know,

what did they telling us it's happening? So that obviously led me down the terrain theory right looking into that and through you know, I would definitely say that I'm not off Dredge spent, but I definitely kind of fall more on the I think that if they had the ability to do what they said they were going to do, they would have done it. And I and because of that, I mean, I don't really believe viruses. It's not that, not the ripoff crow, but I don't think they exist as described

correct it. Like I say many things, like somewhere between terrain theory and germ theory, probably somewhere between there's the truth, right right, yeah. I So I would view everything and I have the conversation with my buddy John about this frequently, but I would definitely you everything that they accomplished with COVID

could have been accomplished by or relee thing talks and into our environment. There's nothing that they did that requires the virus, especially when you take an in my view, In my view, once you take and you considerate in the hospital protocols which they were pininarily using to kill people, right, you have

the brim dezevere and an intubation cocktail. Right yeah, yeah, exactly, So once you take that into account, everything they've done, Everything they did they could have been accomplished with with you know, environmental toxin in my view, and you know, I don't really know what I'm saying, but you can get what I'm saying, sure, absolutely could be water air. I mean, I don't know where you're at. But today, man, they were going overtime with the chem drail. Oh I should have taken pictures because

me and my wife came back. We went down to our local meat mark to pick up some meat to stuck up the freezer, and we got out of the car, looked up and just like you said, even here in the mid Atlantic region, we're around Dover, Delaware. Over time probably yeah, most I've seen in the last couple of years just sprayed everywhere. Yeah, and and and I kind of you know, it might be anecdotal, but you know what I see right now is I had two kids, just

got to being sick. I'm on the front side of getting sick. It's kind of weird, you know what I mean. Call it a coincident. M hmm. But yeah, So like that was my that was kind of my my my real awakening. Now it's far as flatter. I am very much in I Mark Sargent had a big impact on me. In your interview with him was freaking great, by the way. That was mostly him, so well, yeah, but I mean, like it's just my my early

thing with flatter its is I got. I got to mention if anybody hadn't seen the Founded Earth Brothers the final card, I'm sure you've seen it, yeah, but that that was the video. It was one of the things where Survey says, I remember exactly where I was. My partner at work at the time. Jesse shout out to Jesse, he's watching this video,

and he is. He is such a cool guy. He looks up from he looks up from what he's doing, and I can't He's watching on his phone about without years then, so I can kind of hear he's watching something, but I can't really make it out watching this video. And he looks open, he gets and he gets like really fired up, and he's like, all of a sudden, he's just good. It's all a freaking line, man, it's all. And then I was like, okay, okay, let's let's come down. Let's see what are we what are we looking

at here? So then we watched like most of that video together, like kind of while we were working and that and I I went hung in me and my wife watched it and I would say, and why I brought up Mark Stargan is because he said something. I think it's then maybe Flatters clues every day he wakes up and he tried to disprove Flatters. And that's that's kind of how I view things, and that's that is what science is supposed to be about, right you continue uh to test it and make sure that

it stands up to the theory, right exactly. And I yeah, so I saw that video and then you know, I know everybody says day thing, but I that beck at Warm that I saw that that really made me go, Okay, I don't really want to like look into this like even more was level Eric dubay Uh and Hibbler and that that documentary blew my mind. I remember that was that was the one that after those brothers are anything.

I love those guys. I love everything that they do. I think they have they seem like they have I've never spoken with them obviously, but they seem like they have like the nicest spirit about them, super kind and yes, and they're the same off before if record just having a conversation, they're the same genuine people. Oh yeah, oh yeah, I can totally see that too. And you know that that that documentary you put together with

it was so it was so well done. It wasn't like super fancy, but the final card was so well done and it hit like all the points. It didn't just go, hey, you're a lot of globe, here's what you need to know. It was like they really like walked you through it. And that was That was the first thing after the thing level. That was the first time I really said, this is a real freaking problem. And you know what, you know that what's the first flat club?

Don't talk about flat clubs, you know? But but wait a second here before before you go further, I need to ask you what in you allowed you to I mean, before that, before COVID. Let's say it's twenty nineteen. If anybody would have mentioned flat Earth to you, would you have an even given at the time of day? I mean, I mean, honestly, yeah, I would have. I don't like where to fuel people

for thinking about things. I definitely would have thought, yeah, you're stupid, But I wouldn't right, so I wouldn't have been like, what what was it that let your guard down and interested you enough to look further into flat Earth? Was it? That? Was it? The Founded Earth Brothers?

The final card? It? Yeah, and you know honestly what it was what they were coming Yeah, they were coming at being from a perfective that and I'm I'm very much I'm very much to believe her in yahweh and I hold you know a lot of you know, scripture with high regard. But more than that, what they were saying, I just knew that they were telling the truth. I know that sounds kind of weird, but like I knew that what they were saying was was coming from a place of truth.

And when they hit on the timeline, that was one of the things that really that really kind of got to me was the timeline. And nobody ever thinks about like, Okay, well you have this happening. You have you know, you have Admiral Burt you know, from like the late twenties all the way into the forties. And then oh, look of that, you know at Mark Sargant said, they go down there, they find the edge, and then that was borned yep. And you can then cert you

can think you can even take finding the edge out of that equation. You can just look at all the other stuff that was going on in broad daylight to the public eye at that time and say this is weird. If doesn't make sense, why why is Antarctica? Why did that treaty feel an existence we can't agree on anything? Like, why would we why would we do that? Yep? And I read an article regarding the space Shuttle and they even mentioned in that article that this is one of the few things that we

still, uh you know, deal with Russia on a friendly note. I'm like, really, we're on like the verge of this world war and you're still best friends with Russia when it comes to outer space and Antarctica, the two places that are completely one's a lie and one's hidden. Yeah and yeah that yeah, I said it. Yeah, I'm sure, yeah, and

yeah go Ukraine right right right right, So I don't know. I definitely that that was that was really goode for me, just the whole the whole idea of like the timeline, the fact that I do live in Florida.

I don't want to use up all my shoutout, but I do live in Florida, and things in Florida are through her flat and I live near like a fairly big bridge and you can go there and your your eye level when you're right before you go over this bridge is baby maybe eight feet and if you get out of your car, you know, I mean, it can be dubbing, you know. And that's one day. It just didn't you can see way too far. That's all it is. Did did the math? It just it does It doesn't work. We can we can just we

can be things that we shouldn't be able to see. And they've they've got people thinking, They've got people thinking all kinds of stuff with you know, they've they're they're really doing asteroid saying all the time. I don't every once in a while some about here's somebody at the gym or something, and we'll be like, oh, I heard the two guys the other do me in the gym talk about how there's the aposis or whatever the whatever the hell that

one's called. So's to come get it from twenty twenty nine. And I think that that that's just one more thing they use to reinforce and to keep us in fear too. At the same time, could if you think about it, you know, you know a lot of kids. And one thing I noted is, you know, like Avengers movies, So what the Avengers

movies? They are these magnificent productions of visual feats, and it is all, all of it, Every single freaking moment of those movies is subliminally reinforcing space or the idea that we are not the only life, oh one hundred percent yep. And it absolutely saying how like it just goes unnoticed. Yeah, that's why we say we've got we pay for our indoctrination, we pay for our Netflix, we go to the movie theaters, and all this reinforces.

Uh. Like, right now, if you went to Google and just put an asteroid and clicked on news, uh, this four point five billion year old asteroid could reveal the origins of life on Earth. So once again, here's a story that normy uh, you know, Sammy's on his lunch break and he clicks on it and sees this story, and once again this subliminally reinforces that the whole at Bible things just a it's just a story.

Yeah, And and it's all the freaking time, yep. And what you don't what I never realized so recently too, was it's on every front. It's not just it's not just we've done this, we're doing the thing in media. It's where yeah, we'll go asteroid, look at elon luck, what's he doing Oh he's doing cool stuff. How cool? The and it you know, in some way it you know, I got dated before I forget. You always say that I think it great. So I'm not a big bord guy and and and it. Yeah, I have a couple of

friends that are. And it's kind of embarrassing when they started talking about sports, because I don't know, I just got it a ord. But like, one of the things that I noticed is like I never was in a sports but like energy wake up like that, like they had become ridiculous. Yeah. I used to be a huge sports fan and now it's just uh an occasional you know, you know, just sticking my head, pulling my

head out of the rabbit hole. Uh, it just just to clear my head out for something to do. But yeah, I mean I used to if if my Philadelphia Eagles lost on a Sunday, Man, I was mond down too. I was mad. I listened to sports radio commiserating with my fellow brothers. And then yeah, man, when you flat earth did it, Like I was kind of hip to nine to eleven and all these other things. But when you realize that we are not on a globe, and

that is uh and there are many facets to it. You know, we say, uh, flat Earth is, or I should say heliocentrism is the granddaddy of all the lies. But there's so many facets to that, right that they're hiding God and that you're just here, You're just a blip on of a screen that's been going for billions and billions of years. When we know that all of that's a lie. Yeah, And you know one of the things that you just you imitged me of it. My wife filmmating,

he's just filmating. He he Actually she went down what we all we can call whatever you want, called mud blood tartary, sir, how do you want to view it? She got into that like way before I did, and she would not waiting for but she definitely studied it more and she's kind of more on like I guess, for lack of a better time, you

could call her people kind of on the gnostic side of that. Now where that's kind of where I am. I think that the controllers of this place, they've they've done such a good job that I definitely would I would definitely veer towards there being a reset in the In the eight p. Eight hundred camps. That's kind of where I'm landing. I'm definitely open for more information order to be corrected, but that's kind of where I keep There's just seems

to be a lot of discrepancies there. But I think, what what happened in the in the recent history, you know, you look at like the sixteen hundreds is really when evolution in hereio centrism was starting to be pushed. And I allegedly and I and I say that because I don't I just don't know how much we know of the past. Where are you at with that? Man, It's a great question. I've wondered that many times. If there was a reset, we know it wouldn't be a flood because a water

flood, but there was a mudflood. And I've seen hundreds and literally hundreds of videos showing buildings when they're excavated, and when you look at the Pyramids, I think that is really one of the keys to because we know that once again the official story of how they were built is just it's a joke. It didn't happen that way. And even Easter Island, there's so many

things. Now, is there some type of manual reset where you know, they have this constant where Okay, we're going to start with the printing press, and then steam engines and then automobiles, rockets reset, and we keep our own people, our own families in line to who air quote create these things. Right, Like my great grandson's going to be a guy named Jeff Bezos and he's the Internet that's going He's going to create this thing called Amazon.

That's something I've thought about a lot, you know what I mean, because these people, the controllers do think generationally. My thing, there is a long game. Yeah, one hundred percent. We're concerned about you know, what are we doing next month? And these people are looking, you know, twenty thirty fifty years down the line. It's to me that that's

a great question, and that's something I haven't spent enough time in. And once again it's one of those things can we even prove and like you say, these these Francis Bacon, Shakespeare, Copernicus, are these people that really existed? Or is this part of the story. Yeah, and yeah, that's a great point too, because it's like I think that there's a lot of I think there's a lot of history that you can know, and I

think that there's a lot of stuff. There's a lot of stuff that you have to take with like the biggest grained thought that you can imagine, because I think if you were to just put up in right now, put us in a microcosm, and now imagine that we don't have quite the technology for documentation purposes that we do have, and go one hundred years back, now burn the whole world, and you have some record left over. What do you think that looks like it's nonsense. Everything that you had an idea about

for reading those records would be freaking nonsense. Sure, So it's really hard for me. I've just had conversation with my sum the other night. It's really hard for me to say, yeah, Aristophanes, Yeah he totally existed, right right, So this guy back in the Greek time proved within what if you lived, think within two percent or three percent the circumference of the

earth. Yeah, cool story, bro yep, cool stipe bro. I just I just don't think that, like, I don't think that the stuff, when you line it all up, it definitely points to get back on track. It definitely points to a crafted narrative of them having there, them having foresight into the future that we don't have and sang, we need to do it, we need to get evolution going. I don't know if you've ever looked into Project Looking Glass? Have you? You know that I've heard

of it? Is that the one for the vatical It's no, no, it's I believe that within like nineteen ninety three, there was some leaked footage and it basically they have some time a tech that allowed them to I don't want to say, like not a time machine, but they have some kind of tech that they were probably I mean, I don't really believe. I

obviously don't really believe in extraterrestrial, but they were. They have some kind of advanced tech and they were able to like run scenarios through it and see see like kind of like an advanced timeline of where we're at. And they couldn't see past twenty thirty If I'm correct, I can be off by a year or two of act. But they couldn't see past twenty thirty. And when they tried to look past that, there was no mediating from that timeline.

Do you see what I'm saying? It was almost like everything intersected. Gotcha, you got to think that if these people are operating at a level that they are, and I do believe they are playing white five D chats on a level that we can't understand. Unfortunately, I do think the creed. But if if they are able to do that, and they are reverse engine engineering tech, I had one hundred percent. Except they have some mean however you want to make that work. It's fine if they have some means

of predicting the future. Now, obviously I'm going to depart from people in that when I do believe that when you threw every turn the jig at the rap here, he's going to come back. He's going to claim he's going to claim this place for his And I don't know. I don't have a leal tholid fkatology timeline. I've been all over the board, but I do believe he's coming back. Yeah, And when you look at how the world is operating and just the debauchery that you see on TV and the internet every

single day. Listen, I'm not a prophet, and I'm not going to say you know next year, you know, but just when you read Daniel and Revelations and other put the Jeremiah, other books of the Bible, and you just look and see what's going on again. I'm not saying days, weeks, months, years, but it just I don't think it's too far away. That's just my opinion. Yeah, and that same No, it wouldn't. It wouldn't surprive me at all. If if if twenty thirty was

the deal. Sure, I don't. I don't think, you know, if there's no man noticed that the day or the hour, that's right, But you know there's there's definitely you know, if you a he said that, you know you can look at the fig tree and see when the time is mere essentially, and I think that there's those are yeah, those figures are getting ripe. Yeah. Yeah. And the whole thing, this whole nonthing with Israel, I mean, I can't, I can't even I don't

know. I mean, I don't want to put John Bob that I I for the first time ever im So if I'm going a lot, I don't know what to think. I just don't know what to think. It It all looks like the Ukraine thing would like a climber to be like, all right, we're gonna give everybody this, then we're gonna get everybody so over and confused. That nobody's gonna know what to do. Yeah, it's it's good to see the listening out himself too. Yachts last week, because I

mean you have to decompress. Yeah, no, the war, Yeah no, he the tholid dude. I like him. Yeah, great comedian, great comedian plays a piano. Well too, if you've seen that video. Yeah, when I find out, when I found out that dude was an actor, I would like, you gotta be kidding period. Look, Ronald Reagan was an act like Donald Trump. Uh, here's an actor. Donald Trump had a TV show and uh, if you look at his family lineage, it's very interesting too. Yeah. I have I have, I have

an excellent hand a excellent group of people. Uh. It really can't say. I'd really loved to shout out my group of friends, but I'll just say they're a group of friends at my kids school that I met and I'm so grateful to have them in my life. They're all just like awesome dudes, the kind of dudes that would do anything for you, and I think a lot of them, a lot of them are definitely on the same page.

It's all of them are on the same page. If anything ever got too real in this in this country, all of them, all of them would be on the same page for that. That's fantastic and that's what I've go ahead, sir. Yeah, it's just been an excellent support system. Some of the guys just were really really just great people, like believing people, and it's been it's been interesting to kind of go down this road. And but I'll tell you a super quick story. This is super cool.

I won't I don't name So I just started, my kids just started going to the school, and yeah, I do do a fair bit of gun stuff, and I like, I'm looking for a group of guys kind of different light stuff and some guys and they're like, yeah, you can't do that because you know, some guys that are in some firearms could like maybe

give you some yeah pointers or whatever. Anyway, a lot of this guy at the playground of the school and I was like went up to him and I was like, hey, you know, I'm I'm kind of new here. What's going on? And this so happened that like that week, our kids we had I think we have kids that are like in maybe one of these kids in the same graded mind. They were going to Kennedy's space center and we got to talking and I just like, I have basically like,

yeah, Kennedy's face, there are you thinking about that? And uh I was very very new Flatters maybe weeks and uh, this guy he went out on the low and I he he is like hurt, I have a pool in my mind for doing this, and he goes, yeah, I think it's nonsense basically, and I was like why and he looked at me Dad and he goes, he goes, oh, you know, a little firmament thing. Wow, And I was just like whoa. And at the time

live it gets like that cool? And we did there we talked and I kind of like I didn't really like went on like where where I was that, but I listened to him. I'd like, yeah, okay, but I should have known at that point that was a real good educator of like how like minded a lot of these people are. If it's amazing, I wish everybody could have something like that. Yeah, that's that's very important. I you know, one of the most common emails I get is what can

we do? The fact is that the folks in DC are really at this point unreachable, and they have their own you know, January sixth sealed Dad. It's right now, this day and age. You have to find like minded people in your community like you did. That's that's where you got to start and continue to grow your commune unity. And once you've got that community grown and rolling, then you can reach out to maybe the next town over

and Canada continue to build with like minded people. And that's where it's the only way we're going to beat this is to walk away from the current system. You can't beat it. You have to walk away. And I get that question a lot. Yeahuse you know, one of our listeners things might have been. Dan asked me today about the five oh one c threes where they make churches, you know, have to fill out this paperwork and sign

off on it as far as their tax exemptions go. And then of course if they don't follow the government's rules, like you can't talk about political parties or anything like that. And of course I've heard a lot of stories from pastors directly that they were told either close down their church back in March of twenty twenty or they would lose their tax exemption status. It's just all of it's criminal. Yeah, that I fear that not going to be that that's

going to be a thing again. I mean we know that prophetically, you know, quote unquote, it sort of has to be read that point again where they're able to do something out and and put it back in that that

kind of retraint speak yep, yep. And but I think for them to execute it, I kind of mentioned it earlier earlier in our conversation, I think for them to actually be able to pull it off again, I think it's going to have to be in conjunction with something, and I'm very afraid it's going to be the cb d C. I think it's called the Central Bank Digital coin, where uh, you know, cash is basically eliminated from society and then you really get into the comply or don't get your your your

money type of deal. I really think because the market is really on the verge of collapse, or bonds are the worst since I thought I heard somebody say since the Civil War, the situation or bonds the interest continues to go up and we're approaching thirty four trillion in debt. So that's my biggest fear is they try to implement this digital coin and then you can you really start looking at them. You can't buy your cell unless you comply. Yeah.

And and as far as the CBDC goes, is it true that I heard somebody the other day say that in Canada that's like a very real thing. But I get much more out in the open. Uh. I've heard some countries are on me go ahead. Yeah, it kind of. It kind of makes me think that, well, I mean, whether it's not in

Canada is beside the point. It kind of makes me think. It kind of makes me think that, like, don't you they really just have backup plans for backup plans, you gotta think that, oh one hundred percent. Yeah, for sure, just like in the military, we have planned A, B and C, and if if A fails, then this is what's going to do. And then if we get attacked during this, then you're going to do that. They they absolutely one hundred percent because they anticipate.

In psychology, is you look at Edward Burnet's and those type of people that they can usually read how people are going to react, and they backward plan. But they also for sure have backup plans and certainly plan C, D and E as well. Probably Yeah, Edward Bernaid, he the guy that like made bake anything. Yeah, the all American breakfast of bacon and eggs. And then the Liberty the torches of Liberty had all the ladies smoking. Yeah yeah. Grow I think Grow is talking about the go yeah yeah,

so all that. Yeah, by the time we get by the time we get further down the road here in the next I don't know. What do you think happening before the election? Well, I from everything I've been scouring, they are obviously fishing with us to see what scares us, because every day for the last week it's been a flu, a pneumonia, this white lung. I think they're trying to see and they have the ability with their tech to see the numbers fluctuate and how people share stories to see what really

hits the fear porn. But I man, I'm telling you the last week in the news with the Bank of International Settlements in Switzerland completing their test on the CBDC, it's I just think that's coming. And then they always and are they going to do a false flag and Israel or Russia and kick off. That's the thing I'm most worried about, that they do some kind of false flag you know, Oh, there was a new suitcase set off somewhere and see here's the thing before I want I want, I want you to

remember that explosion in bea Route back in twenty twenty. I know, twenty twenty was a crazy year, between the Summer of Love and and and COVID. That was I think it was August a fourth, which I think is Barack Obama's birthday of all things. That that huge explosion that just shattered the port in Beyrout. Do you remember that? No? No, wow, no, I that Yeah, look it up. I'll put the link in

the show description. I thought. I always thought, because that story just kind of went away like that was going to be a test run for an upcoming false flag. They wanted to get the visual of what it would look like. I mean, yeah, I completely accept that. Yeah, they're always doing. Yeah, that did all goal to get not necessarily like the dethentthetized, but to and plant so soothly engineered god of the idea that was in twenty twenty. Yeah, it was. I was right. August fourth,

twenty twenty. Latitude thirty three degrees longitude thirty three degrees Is that correct? We get a what could they get a nine eleven in there somewhere. Yeah, they get that, or that a number of deaths to hundred and eighteen. There's your eleven A best nine plus two? Wow, yeah, yeah, you're under and eighteen. Hey, I thought of you the other day. Do you know why? I don't know if you said that there? Maybe I just thought you said that. Do you know why there weren't

ninety one highjackers on nine eleven instead of nineteen? Yeah? No, why if everybody would have believed that right right, right right? That was probably their first grade yep one or even nine hundred and eleven. Yeah, they would have enjoyed that. No, all right, if we get to I just can't you know, I'm good, have happened all the time to people, but I just can't see what twenty twenty aren't going to look like. I think whatever twenty twenty look like. And I don't like to be a

fearmonger too. I want everybody to to live your life, enjoy your family and things like that. But at the same time, you've got to be cognizant of like these people literally stole power, which I mean we've been we were hijacked for Depending on who you talk to, some people say, I interviewed that lady a couple weeks ago on the other podcast. She said it went back to eighteen fifties. Some people say, obviously nineteen thirteen with Woodrow

Wilson in the Federal Reserve. But like, I think the official in your face, this is not your country was the election of last year. And if you think that, like, never in recorded history has anybody ever stolen power, right, like like basically a coupdata and then said well, okay, here you go, We're done. You can have your power back. We're going to to set you back to a real democratic republic now. Yeah, And I gets I have a hard time with the whole. Yeah,

I agree, one hundred percent. I just thought I have a hard time with like the whole Oh Hillary, with both to win in twenty we didn't rig the election, right, right, man? And I just I can't. I can't my head around that. I think that was they They wanted people to love Trump because you can't. You couldn't find a more evil person, a more loathed person in the world more than Hillary. So I think even the people who were kind of, you know, in the middle probably

leaned towards Trump. But again it. Yeah, that whole thing is a story. These people are selected, not elected. Yeah. Now we're watching I had a good friend of mine, you know, we're watching the movie. That's what's going on. Absolutely expensive movie. Yeah, very infestive. I did you know, Oh, I want to tell you, so you had. I had listened to a little bit of his stuff before you got

him on Back Hunters. Gary Wayne. Gary Wayne's amazing. Yeah. I think his stuff with Thurn is he the knowledge that guy has about everything is freaking dust. He's got unreal knowledge and the way he's able to see things. Yeah, but him, so when when he does it, when he does the lecture on Thurn, it really makes you think that maybe maybe, but obviously like we're you know, we're in a spiritual battle, like I mean, all the stuff, the side of what's going on, Like we're

in a spiritual battle. And I think one of the hardest things for people to understand, you know, like some of my friends, you know, when I say, oh, you know, sometimes I just get kind of over it and I'm just like, yeah, not only ritual, and they're just like, well, what are you talking about. That's insane? Well, it's only insane. If if you buy the why that they have convinced us all of they believe in things that we don't believe in, like they

worship God and and that we don't. And at the end of the day, that's what this to me is from what I seem like, I don't know the specifics, but that's what this is about. Like they they're giving their get to other things that we don't we don't really understand, and that's why, in my view, a lot of the numerology always works out the

way it does. They do these things on specific dates, they have these you know, I mean, as much as I do think that the Hillary Trump thing was obviously the show Hillary Quinn is, I mean, there's no way if he's not, I mean, satanic would be another statement, would you say, or oh for sure would that Luciferian? Yeah, one hundred

percent. Yeah, yeah. So I mean there's no way you feel like, okay, stuff like that and go, well, the people are they're giving their allegiant things that we don't understand, and and they've got everybody, they've got everybody basically kind of get glossed over because they were in good. The first thing that you know, you've heard the freight. The best thing

the devil ever did convent the world that he didn't that's right. I'm the best thing these people have ever done is convent the world that people can't be that evil, and that that is a crock evil one hundred percent. And you know what, actually two things. Let me finish my photo thought on this though, I think pre nine to eleven I may have not bought into the flood mud. I'm sorry the mud flood story because of free will and

everything else. But really on that day, like they intentionally killed three thousand Americans, and then of course they they know that Americans are patriotic and and they knew that people and I've told the story one hundred times that you know, my buddy was a recruiter in September twelfth. He had a line around the recruiting office. And you look at people like Pat Tillman, God rest his soul, and you know it's so part of it was a ritual.

But they also from the Brenasian side, they knew how we were going to react and and we we bought a hook line and sinker. Yeah, yeah, I have, yeah, I have, I have buddy, And yeah, they they've done me combat to it and then thank you for you're there by the way, and you were you were in for twenty white was it

twenty four? Twenty hey for ye holy and yeah, if there's so many things and watching one of my buddies, I didn't have the I didn't really have the heart to be like, oh man, let's get into it. But yeah, one of my buddies who third, he came up every day he's like, dude, what do you think about nine to eleven? And it's like, I don't know, what do you think about it? And he's fully awake to it. Wow, And it's you know, I mean, you know it's hard. Absolutely, it's it's tough. And you know,

I was. I was definitely raised. My grandfather was, Oh I hate I'm going to mess up the rank. Sorry he was. I believe he's the lieutenant colonel in the navy. Okay, he was very high and he was My grandfather was an awesome person. He died lad with like fifteen. But every he's one of the people. I'm sure you have somebody like that, but he's one of these people. Every time I think about it, I just remember just good, just good things yep. He would freaking

lose his mind if he was alive today. Oh my grandfather too. We me and my brother in law were just joking about that the other day. I said, I wish I could bring my pop pop back for just five minutes, let him kind of watch the news and some commercials in a movie or something to see what's going on. Oh hell, get me out of here. Just you know, that's the way they were back then, right, You're like, are you kidding they There was no that they weren't gonna

They didn't have filters, there was none of this. Uh you know, you can't say that that's not how that that's not how they rolled. Yeah. Yeah, I still remember my grandfather. I mean, you know, kind of looking back, you know now, it really does kind of jump into the category of my grandfather was very much heed a W. He a

W guy all the way the theme here. Obviously he cassed away before the junior Oh sure, but he he you know, he had nothing but adoration for W. And you know, obviously I kind of wonder or what we are experiencing is you know, for lack of a better term, like the the grain awakening, whatever you want to call it because the thing like their things. Now we look back and we go, well, I mean Wan might have been okay, but we know the thing now, Yeah, maybe

it wouldn't the best, you know either. Yeah, that's right for sure. H W and h W for sure. I mean he's a he's a what a war criminal in the International Court in Indonesia, like they're born out for his rest. I did, yeah, yeah, I did think. You know Colum bun would the junior. Yeah, it started with Prescott the

grandfather. He he he joined back during World War Two when he was one of the guys that when he was stationed at Fort Sill, Oklahoma, he went out and he rounded up a Comanche skull, which is still to this day at the Skull and Bones little you know, that weird room that they use at uh Yell on the campus. Yeah, and then Prescott or then h W and then w al three were skull and bones. Oh it's so,

it's so, it's very it's very insidious. And I yeah, they and again they right back to the that's a good job of making everybody just kind of pep this up under the brow. You don't really want to talk about it. But what I do see people kind of being more open.

I got a couple of friends that I didn't think would really ever even entertain anything, and one of them recently I was just like, yeah, you don't really I forget the time I always stated I'm not really quite convinced that the healing of the central idea and that tends to like not quite hit lobs make people as angry. I don't know. You always say this, but didn't through hot ears it settled polar I think people get people knew the freaking

learned. I just I don't understand you're automatically and I have noticed over the last three years that it it's not quite as bad. It's starting to get out there a little bit. But even amongst the truth community. I mean that's the reason I started this podcast, because you know, I could talk about JFK nine eleven, everything else you mentioned. You know that bring on David weiss Man. I knew my email was going to be full the next

day. You're making yourself, you're discrediting yourself. What are you doing? But now I actually I've getten a lot of emails from people's like I actually took the time to listen, and yeah, I think you're right, not all of them, but there are no people quite a lot of hate about bladder it for sure. I think that's numbed down a little bit just because And here's the thing. When I started this podcast, I thought we'd get

a few hundred listeners. The fact that, like when the numbers that just made the small podcast gets I think there's a lot of people who are at least looking into it, let's call them closet flat earthers. I think there's a lot more people out there who kind of think something's up. And again that may go back to the lies of COVID, and they are starting to look into these more fringe things that they once thought, you know, completely ridiculous. Again, you talk about, well, what are the real big

ones? You know? Flat earth? And you want to talk about terrain theory versus germ theory, and I'm sure there's one more that that just is, what are you talking about? You must be out of your mind. Uh, you can't talk about the history of World War two because I'll get you out of water two. Those three topics, man, are very polarizing. And as a truther, if you if you consider yourself the truth truth

or you have to be willing to look at everything. Yeah, yeah, and that you know that that's a great point, Dared that in a podcast, a couple of grit guys do pick a podcat, but port they will have somebody on there to talk about reptilion for two and a half hours. And if somebody were if they flatter on that podcast, I know for a fact that they would take it out. That was just deleting, he edited,

if it's like weird conversational. But once again, doesn't it go back to how well they've built the matrix and the controllers have have made these things so polarizing, and like you just said, like with nine eleven and the emotional time, they did the same affing thing with COVID where all of a sudden, now you're not getting back even you hate old people and where my grandma had died. Yeah, and it gets people upset and people are I

mean in Florida, I don't know where you're at. In Delaware, I know what it's like, But in Florida people are pretty safely out at here, Like, ain't nobody and I would wear a mask here, it's not really a thing. Well, if people are wearing a mask in Florida are like, okay, so you're a Democrat. We get it. Not so much here, not there, No, the I mean it's a small state. But the more north you go, you see the ride with Biden bumper

stickers, and you see people in their cars wearing masks. And I have noticed earlier this week I went to it might have been Sam's Club or the grocery store, and I noticed a huge uptick in people wearing wearing masks. Again. Yeah, and it's weird. There's no certain demographic that was young people. There was older people. It wasn't one particular like demographic. Yeah you did the pocket of that year too, just like your fan. But it is a good it is a good window into like what what are they

pushing right now? Like what are they Like my wife always did they like, oh yell at people of the math. They must be pushing some kind of thing right now, you know down here. I'm sure thing there, but like the RFV, like the big thing that's like the that's right, that is the other thing they're losing. Yeah, yeah, all the the what do you call it? The the health the all of the state health services put out a bulletin I think on Monday or two day pushing to get

the R S V vaccine because the numbers were quote through the roof. So once again, uh, the end game is to get you to the vaccine. And they put out these notices and I actually heard it on my local radio to make sure you know it's free. It's covered by this, covered by that. Yeah. I would pass ing CDF or Walgreen the other day and they have a sign. Now I don't know that this is what they're trying to fay, but this is what the fine bed it that get your

COVID are at the blue vats. It's all on one And I was just thinking that all that all the same damn thing or that like one did they they just combine it all into one now and get everybody. Yeah, I don't know. You know, you know who Eddie Brock is, right, Oh of course, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so Eddie brodo I think he'd got something right when he said that, like they hide backed the flue like he was real big on that, like he very he had

drown conviction. They hid They just renamed it basically. Yeah, And I think that I think you can see that in real time now I had COVID. Did you get COVID? No? I did not, No you ever had it? I had whatever, the very first train that they had, allegedly I think training court. I had that and it was bad, but again, it was right on time. It was very it would very easily in hindsight. When was it the first thing? It in't it? With with it? Delta? Oh yeah, it was the first one that it

was delta. Then it was oh my god, some omicron. That's right, it was an omicron, and of course the lead in Latin. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, omicron was At the time, I was still listening to to people like Shapiro, and Shapiro was saying, listen up, everybody. Everybody's freaking getting this. Everybody's getting this, and you know what, I've freaking out that it wasn't terrible. But I just remember thinking, you know what, like so my wife, my wife like it.

She's very she has a way of like viewing things, and she has this thing and this is a little bit, a little bit woo woo, but I think it's it's it's really valuable. So if you think about the idea of like you go to a doctor, you go to the doctor who you hold in high regard, and nothing against doctors West. Your medicine has its place, like one hundred percent, absolutely. But but you go to a doctor for something that you don't really know is going on with you.

And then the doctor who you hold in almost like this priest type fashion procrane with thickness over you. Have you ever thought about just like what that does? If somebody absolutely it's it's a label the same. I've said this many times. Before you take your child, you're right, you'll get a note from the teacher. Hey, this is missus Smith. You're your your first

grader isn't paying attention in school? You need to see the doctor. And what happens the doctor labels them with ADHD and all of a sudden, now you've got a seven or eight year old on adderall and for me, and again this is George speaking, I don't speak on behalf of anybody else. I'm not a doctor. And what everybody body does for their family, they think that that's what they're doing the best thing. So I'm not here to criticize anybody, but for me, in my opinion, to use mind altering

drugs when a young person's brain is still in development. I question that. This is just my opinion. Oh yeah, now one, but that's part of the that's part of the deal. Yeah, you get a label and you get a prescription and boom, welcome to the world of you know, you're you're you're part of big pharma. Oh yeah, and a big farm a little bit. It's a little bit weird. But it might make on people up that but whatever. So what is your view on the whole medical

marijuana industry? Oh, people shouldn't be mad about it. So here's I was. It was I talking with about this the other day. Oh, I had gotten an email from a listener that I need to read. But I will tell you first number one, Like, since I was born in late sixties until well ten years ago. Let's just choose ten years ago. As as the the bar, marijuana was evil and you would go to prison, you'd get arrested, you get a ticket, you get a citation.

It was evil. It was the devil's lettuce, right, that was the nickname for it. Then all of a sudden, uh, it became medical. But you couldn't grow it yourself. You see, you had to go to the mobster, the gangster, which is the state. So I think it started with California, then Colorado, and now last count I want to say between thirty seven and forty states are doing medical marijuana. Yet you still

have people in jail for marijuana. It's not for everybody, but I believe, once again, this is just me speaking, and I'm sure I'm going to get people angry too, but it's something that if it's something that naturally grows. Once again, dandy lions are so bad for you. Spray with your roundup that causes cancer, and dandy allions is one of the most great things that you can put in your body. I'm just saying I have friends

who marijuana has saved them from suicide. I've been told by by veterans who have been overloaded with prescriptions in the military and in the VA system, And I told people on podcast many times that I felt like my insides were dying to get through that last deployment. I had a sprain MCL, I had

torn meniscus I had I was getting injections in my neck. I was broken down from seven deployments, fifty one months in Iraq, wearing body armor and helmets, carrying weapons, getting up and down in a hum Vy's what I was a fifty one Bravo that I reclassed halfway through was a ninety two Yankee. I was in the United States Cavalry for seven years, so when I wasn't doing my work at nights, I was going out on missions with them. Yeah, okay, so I never heard of that. Yeah, I

did not know that. I was with the tenth Mountain for OIF one from two thousand and three to two thousand and four, and we moved to four fourth Infantry Division and fourth Carson and I did three tours with the was its second calv ninth Cavalry, and then we reflagged a four to ten and the Cavalry's wild man. That was it was interesting. What a year for twenty four years. So when you got out, you didn't hear any pans beeped up. I didn't do any weather. I'm sorry. Yeah, do any

like private contracting? Oh no, no, no, no, I have zero. Interesting and it's interesting we talk about I'd mentioned fifteen minutes ago about one of the things I'm worried about is I'm trying to instigate like this big world war. You know, I have a little indeed thing just and I just happened to look at it. And over the last two weeks, I've got a lot of headhunters messaged me, Hey, we need help with recruiting. One one guy offered me a job to work in the Green Zone,

to be a supervisor of the guard unit at the Green Zone. And you're out of your mind. Especially I figured they would at least be paying like one hundred and fifty a year now, granted it was three months on, one month off, ninety two thousand dollars a year. That's it for the Green Zone in Baghdad right now, which every night they're getting rockets and more. I'm like, have a good day, but I wouldn't sitting. There's no amount of money that could cook me, you know, to go back

there and endure the mental stress. You know, it would just recall everything and all the progress I've made since I retired. It would just be a mess. Yeah. Yeah. I I a guy that I worked with it in the National Guard, and he really parked. He did hint sometimes that it seems like they're they're potentially moving things around. Yeah, yeah, to bad upsitting it is. And by the way, even if you go to the UH Selective Service page. Go look at the SS dot gov I think

it is, and scroll down. One of the things things we're working on. Uh, women immigrants like, I'm not making this up. Go to the Selective Service web page and scroll down and look at additional items it'll give. It'll raise your eyebrows. That's yeah, I mean. And then on top of that too, you have so that does actually kind of tie back what I what I would what I was going to ask you about. The medical marijuana thing does kind of tie back into this, and that's it.

One of the things that I see is I'm fiffer grateful in a lot of ways for that because I it had it thinks one of my I don't, I wouldn't maybe not that dramatic, but it they one of my friends a lot of pain, Like is then able to get off things from medical marijuana? Mike concerned with that is I see a large majority of the under twenty five crowd in this country now just willing elly getting medical cards. And sure,

basically you don't have to walk around Selbra anymore. No, as long as the state gets their cut, they're happy with it, and as long like you basically you go to a MetalMan and tell them it's like getting like blue chew. You go online, you talk to a guy, you pay your money, and next thing you know, you got your things. They've

made the medical industry very successible, even for animals. Now there's something called vetst You can have a virtual you know thing with your pet and they can order your dog's medicine that you know, they're really everything is really next level, and they'll give you a medical marijuana card. They want your money. This state alone made over a billion dollars last year, Delaware, Delaware. And that's that's revenue for them, not not what the dispensary has got.

And remember, you know in twenty twenty they closed church and they told you were not essential, but they lift they left the liquor stores and these other type of things open. It was things that I never thought i'd see. Once again, I'm you know, I could talk about these things all night

long. It's there's no rhyme or reason to anything how it's run. Yeah, and I do think that, Yeah, I think it's easy to kind of it's easy to kind of to look at things and just say, oh, this is all you know, just happenstance to some extent like you're saying. But at the same time, I think that there is no rhyme or reason at some level. But I think that that that's the human error level.

I think that like the big the big decisions to the big deals, I feel like that is that being extreme carefully selected, you know what I mean. I think like the people at the bottom, you know that are kind of doing you know things Willy Reilly, you know that might be just like, oh crap, this guy made a bad collage. You have done that. It's okay. We got somebody at the top that you know,

it doesn't really matters long its X lived happens. That's that's kind of That's kind of how I do because there are there are so many things that are just like well that doesn't really quite make sense. But I look, I could. I was like gonna go back in time and see if maybe maybe just tell myself like sooner that you know, things aren't what you think, because I feel like I feel like this dahindage being I'm forty, I feel like waking up at like you know, I woke up when I was like

thirty five. I think I've been in Flyers for like four or five years. If it's been it's it's just really tough. It's a lot, you know, number I'm tid of whine. I'm just saying, like, you know, doing the whole everything, doing the whole family thing, and doing all that and and and dealing with some of this stuff right now. Is you know, it's it's doable. It's it's a lot a lot of mental gymnastics. Oh yeah, a lot of stuff. And there's you know,

it's like the great doctor, people like you. You know, it's great to have good if you don't have the community, it can I have no idea how people I have no idea of people that don't have any kind of you know, support that them do it at all. I don't get it. Yeah, and you go once that further, I don't know how people that don't have a relationship with the Creator do it. I mean, I

don't know. Yeah, that's that's an outstanding point. I mean. And again, one of the most humbling things is getting all these emails from listeners that have maybe either never had a relationship with God or maybe at some point had walked away. It's funny somebody had made a really good point that when in life, when something bad happens to us, we're we're quick to blame God. But once something good happens to whether you know, to us,

many times we self glorify what I did. But when something goes bad, it's God's fault. So you need to remember it's it's all in his glory right and to flat Earth has been a once I got over the I don't want to be dramatic about it, but for me, it was I can't

even put into words with that. I mean, I still to this day remember when I first acceptedar, where I was standing what I was doing, and just I felt like, you know, like I rebooted, like a computer that completely rebooted, and I had to learn things all over again. And then I was like, oh wait a second, the Book of Genesis, it makes perfect sense. Now, this makes perfect sense. Now everything's

a lie. Holy crap. And going back to what you said earlier that you wish you had found out earlier, and I think most of us say that. But at the same time, I think God wakes or he knows when we're going to be ready to handle it, because I know I think I put blinders on towards the end of my military career, to be honest with you, but I think, uh, you know, we wake up at that point for a reason that we're ready to handle it. What are

your thoughts on that? Yeah, yeah, I definitely, I definitely think that like you can only you can only deal I think the human the humans like you can really only deal with like so much. And as oftentimes I look back at I look back at my life and the event that that maybe you know, not like that necessarily spiritually impoxible, but just like event that

maybe we're tough for me or or whatever like times to get through. I look back and I think, man, I was like at some stupid pan on freaking auto violet, and I think that that kind of plays into the same idea. It's like and that kid was not capable about oh one hundred percent. And part of that is like when I was growing up, I was either at the movie theater where I was listening to Quiet Riot or led Zeppelin, and I was in the indoctrination system, right and but and that's

the funny thing. I was telling my friend today, we're in church, you know, one hour a week, and that's I was the same way we went to church every Sunday, but I went back to being George again. You know, right after church it was hurry up and get home for football and you know it's just and then waking up in flat earth, just like many people say, really helped me prioritize everything. Yeah, there were the video. It was really good. I think it was by a Canadian

Anadian couple. I think his name was John Wong, not comedian, and I think it was called Dear Pasture. It was a really good video and it was just about how like, you know, I hadn't having kind of just a real brief story about a guy I worked around that I hadn't seen in a while. He he's an example of the reality of what an impact flatters can have on somebody and that that sounds so nuts, Like I understand,

like how nuts that sounds. The beetle, But this guy worked around him and Pads seen him in a couple of years, and then we started talking one day and he was like into all these conspiracies and I'm like, wow, that's really cool. I didn't know you were into this and he's like, oh yeah, yeah, checked this out. And he started telling me about this, like yeah, this conspiracy or there that one, and and I was like, hey, you know, we think about the moon

landing and just kind of wanted to feel where he was out. This was only like a maybe not even a year ago. And uh, he was like, oh, I don't know, I've ever really looked at it. They just look into it. Next time I saw him, you know, long, long story short, I kind of like pointed the seat that I was like, you know, I don't know if this whole thing is ascribed, you know, basically, and then they're there's a really good video,

fly video. It's probably about forty minutes long, and it's called flatters this conspiracy fact. It's just kind of a random video and it was on of course David White sadded on his app, and that's how I came across it, and I sent that to him. And this guy, he's a super nice guy. I really like him. He is an atheist. He watched that video and he texted me back and he's like he did the Holy shit.

But the point is is that that guy, that guy now confronted with something, whether he even knows it or not, that there's a creator. Could you know you're in you're in an almost perfect creation, right, and and that was something to me that like, that was the first time I was like, wow, that's that is That's quite a thing. You know. You imagine what Earth looked like like at the very beginning, how beautiful and green, and how when everything was still unpolluted, how amazing it looked.

I mean, it's still there's so many beautiful things to look at now, but imagine right after it was created being able to say it, Oh yeah, if if not, I know, like for a while, my wife was BRILLIANTO. I don't know, if you know, can ham it? Oh yeah, absolutely, Yeah, he's a pretty big deal. He's got like a big if it well, if you know, I mean, doesn't he have like a version of like the canopy theory? I know, he's definitely early Earth or whatever they call it. It's kind of him,

the one with the Noah's Ark. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, he had to create creation attitude or science something like that. Yeah, I'm not familiar that he had a canopy theory or maybe I have. Yes. Yeah. Basically, like it's basically like the the Earth had more oxygen and hind view before the flood because there was some something that was like filtering the uh, the light from the sun and the and the stars, like actually

saying it was something something along those lines. But it's kind of an interesting if you think about like bringing like the firmament into that equation. Like I don't think I don't think the fermament's were moved because of the flood. I don't either. I think they just opened up the windows of the firmament, right. And I also don't really quite understand. And there's times when it comes to like these specific things where I'm just like, well, I don't

really quite think we even really understand what the firmament is. It's a barrier, Like really, like I really liked what cross when he says that, and you think about you think about the hours that that dude is spent filming the mood and filming this guy and he literally is the ten thousand hour expert on something. Yep. And he said, there's nothing coming in in here, there's nothing going out, and you're not leaving its place with this year's

gone. That's right, yep. Definitely like that, Yeah, that's spot on space Shuttle is not going to get you there either. No, I wish I'd like to know see face. I'd like to know what what the what the mainstream like normy explanation is when I know everyone's like seeing that footage of the Space Shuttle, like it almost looks like it's gratings the farmament.

Are you talking about the one from like a week or two ago? I mean, it's been the last I mean I've literally witnessed that outside my house because I'm close enough to I can actually see Cake Cadavil when they launch. Oh okay, cool, yeah, which is I mean I'm really far away, but still, yeah, I'd like to know like what the actual explanation of that is. And there's so many things like that where it's like, well, hold one, do they get the truth? Doesn't the truth doesn't

fear investigation. And if what they're giving us is the truth, then why are there all these like tricks and they have to do all these like cuts. I mean, I'm sure you've seen the video, like David White, he's like showing like one an appalaarren't has like yeah, they never have one continuous video. It's always cutting from this angle, that angle, that angle.

Yeah, and that's that's That's the other thing too, is that it's really That's one of the other really divisive things that I don't really know how they've done that. I think they kind of did that in nineteen eighty sick with the challenger idea, right, Yeah, like they put that emotional there again that yeah, contact the fear based mind control. They put a TV at every single classroom in school, that freak. Yeah, it was just there in particular one Now a story, they have to have the story.

It was a teacher, which that was the reason why they put all the TVs in the classrooms so you could see Krista McCuller, the school teacher who I have to go back sometimes I'm afraid to say these things, but I think she was only a teacher for like a year or two and then she got chosen. Yeah. I believe that it's correct because all this all this SoCal engineering and my view, But yeah, what's the really funny? Uh

not be going to do? I have some like memory issues, like I don't really remember much before I was well they and what really weird is I remember staying the Challengard flode that and I mean, now granted I was four years old when that happened. How crazy is that think about that for a second. I have like very few memories of anything from my life before I was like twelve, But I rereb that that is crazy. Yeah, and yeah they again they just got everybody wrapped up with that e multiple thing.

But that's what I'm gonna say that, Like, there's there's a time like when you try to like bring up something to to somebody and people get really fired up about NASA King love NASA. Oh yeah, it's just so weird to me. Yeah, yeah, I was right. I'm glad she took a teaching job as a social study teacher in nineteen eighty three. In eighty five she was selected. Yeah, yep, what are the odds? Nothing to see her here? So I wanted I have to ask you something a

second ago. So how long did you do thought proper? How long did you do the fact Hunter before he started Flattered Wild? Three years? Three years? Yeah, about three years? Yeah, and then I mean I'm love listening like back then, but like what uh, how did that go? Like did you do a flat Earth that depended on the fact Hunter and you were rained down fire and bring down upon you? Yeah? So so early on and within the first twenty episodes I had I've told the story before.

David Whys sent me an email and the subject said flat Earth Dave, and I had delete, and uh. I kept going through my emas. But for some reason, for some reason, it bugged me because I always said, you know, I've respond to everybody. To this day, I still try to respond to everybody, and I felt bad. The next day, I went to the trash you know in your email, and I've read it and there was I think it was actually a Triple seven link in there.

He always puts links in his emails, and I went and I thought, huh, that's interesting, And actually I emailed them and by the time I brought them on, I was already bought and sold into the theory, because I think it was a couple of weeks from the time I had reached out to them and we had everything set up. So, yeah, I got something that Noll available online. Can you fill with that? Uh, I'm pretty sure it is. Yeah. Yeah, tonight we dropped episode seven

hundred. It's actually the seventh hundred podcast, so it's it's quite a catalog on that side. I think there's like thirteen hundred hours on that side. Yeah, it's yeah, it was interesting. I was a nerd, but I was already bought into it and anytime I brought it up. But it's so funny. One thing I always talk about is you can at the water cooler at work on your break you can talk about the moon landing hoax and nobody will bat an eye. Right, that's just standard type of conversation.

What do you, hey, Bob, what do you think about the moon landing? I was probably a joke. But they can't connect the docks, right, it connects directly to flat Earth. If you mentioned that afterwards, like, nobody's going to talk to you for a month, You'll be sitting at the lunch table by yourself. Yeah, they'll never live in it. But it's actually I've given up with my mom. I literally at my mom one time. I said, do you think that the moon landing happened?

Like? They said, like, do you think we really went to the moon? And it I'm not even going to And it ended so poorly. I just I couldn't believe it. I would like, but then I realized he thought on TV and she was sixteen, and he thought on TV, that's right, And but Nixon said we're all ab out the freaking TV back before that. That's right, and Nixon said people won't believe anything until they

see it on TV. And everything is on TV. And now, of course they have the addition of the Internet and videos and things going viral that way to support their cause. There there's so many there's so many things once you get into like the media and social social engineering specifically, and like the music industry. I don't know if you've ever listened to any pro stuff on like the that Paul Dad, have you have you done any of that? I'm sorry if you like to be Yeah, I've actually I did an episode

on that as well. He died in November of sixty six, I think, yeah, yeah, and then he was replaced with Billy Shears. Billy Shears, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's there's an interview with one of it might have been George Harrison's wife. He walked up sugar Hands. She said, hey, Billy, how are you doing? It's like hurt and people are like, yo, you're nuts. Yeah. I tried to make I tried to make that when I when I first kind of like started to look at into that, and I looked up into that for a while,

and that was like one thing. I was not really like pasting it with people. But if the opportunity, not like anything else, if the opportunity or I'd be like, hey, you know the Paul do the Paul Dead idea and people are just like, you're a bang, that's that's not real. Yeah. Look at the Sargent Pepper's Lonely Hearts club band there. Uh, what's his name? The Aleister Crowley's on there. You know the Paul's

dead lyrics, right yeah, yeah, the Paul's dead lyrics. And I don't think they toured any more sands A few things like on that rooftop after that, right they and who doesn't back at that time you made money off of albums. But it's still to this day the record companies are parasites all the all the company, sorry, all the bands, the Aerosmiths, the Zeppelins, they made a lot of money, uh doing their tours, you know, walking out of there with one hundred thousand dollars cash every night,

you know when they're doing these arenas, and they just stopped afterwards. I think the Tavistock Institute was behind the Beatles and wrote most of their music and yeah, and what Dave mcdall's weird scenes. Every boy should play there, everybody should read. Sorry, what what with the what with the mufflefold? What would it? What the what's the fight? They all came from that

neighborhood. Oh yeah, weird scenes in the hills. Uh geez, I always forget that the second part of the title in California, all of them

did. Yeah, they're like all from the same like it was a neighborhood, right, yeah, Laurel Canyon, Laurel Yeah, Yeah, that that was one of the things that like, but that's so that's really good, just like that whole like just generally that idea is one of the things to me that when I started understanding that, just the whole potoc idea of you, yeah, Jim Morrison taking Dad doing the whole, you know, getting at the end of the trick and Vietnam and you have all that stuff,

and you're like, oh, yeah, they're gonna literally manufacture things and lie to you about everything, but yeah, state it's totally real. Yeah, and even the Chili Peppers told you right, but in a Hollywood basement. Yeah, And that's I think that's like, that's the biggest challenge for me is when, Yeah, my kids right now they're learning a lot about like history, and and that's yeah, that's it's not tough, but it's very

it's hard for me sometimes. I've been working on this being more like, yeah, you gotta you know, you gotta learn that, you know, do your thing, and you know, I think we should. There's an argument like we should know what the world thinks to a degree, you know what I mean. It's just like you said, you got we got to check in with the media every once in a while to see, you know, what they're pushing. That's right, without that history is on that level.

I'm just saying we do have to be educated about what the world even if even if we are just you know, passing through so to speak. But do you do you mind if I if I asked, what, what do you tend attend a certain denomination? Are you from the background of denominations? Uh? My background? I grew up in a Methodist church, always been Protestant, kind of non denominational. Now just kind of a King James

version Bible believe in kind of guy. Yeah, have you I'm assuming you you've gotten into the Enochs ye knocked up that there's the channel called hanging On his words on YouTube. Are you familiar with him? I don't think so. I'm looking it up now. You said hanging on, Yeah, oh yeah, you'd love this guy's either really good as damd ken hidle Brick. He only does YouTube, which is sometimes frustrating for me because he doesn't have anything to like, just listen to. It's all it's it's uh, but

you have a really great job. He he has a lot of flatters so, but he also does a lot of oh this he's the guy who wants to deep the stream with the Founded Earth Brothers. Yeah I know, okay, gotcha? Yeah? And uh, the other guy they do a lot of stuff with Back to the Covenant, gotcha tracking yep. I put the link in the show description for the listeners too. Oh yeah, totally that

guy. That guy's walking he but he's he's one of the guys that me and my life started watching and we really, at least for me at that point, it really it turned me on too. And and this is this is the fricky conversation that you can't really have with people at your church. But they're hiding stuff in in some of these books. In my opinion, that's me they're hiding some of the stuff that's been removed from these books,

specifically Enoch Jubilee. I think they're hiding a lot of detailed about Hiptory. Uh. You know, the whole giant idea is basically unless you know what to look for, is basically removed from our canonite pect. I didn't say that it's not removed, it's just you know, you have to you have to know, you have to understand, like there's some translational issues, you know what I mean? Sure, absolutely, And if you ask, different

pastors are going to have different uh answers for you. Obviously there's the theology answer they'll give you, which is I think during the time uh you know of the sixty six books being canonized, uh, there wasn't they I think what the story was, there wasn't enough evidence to support those particular texts. And it wasn't until uh what was the name of the books that were found in the uh the sea the one day I think the dead people, thank

you, ACU, thank you that the Dead Sea scrolls. So and now everybody's you know, most people will look at them and use them as you know, books to support the Bible. But I think, you know, I definitely uh believe that the the giants had more of an influence on the world than is led on to be. And I go back toward the conversation

we had about the pyramids. Mm hmm, yeah, Yeah, that's that's different with like holding up like that's what I think like Wayne is really he's done one of the you know, it's funny, one of the people that I was kind of waking up and not necessarily all the He'll tell you that the Buildable author he believed that a flat and movable earth with a firm pid

the late might hide there the way. Recently, I don't if you're familiar with him, he wrote a book called The Unfeened Realtem that just completely blew my mind on levels that I don't think i'll ever really quite recover from currypually, and it's come out recently more I think people have kind of posted him doing it's a it's a all lecture he's giving. It looks to be from like the mid twenty tens or so. He's younger, and he's he's saying

that, hey, ancient, ancient, Israelite. They they they didn't. They weren't lighting this as poetry. They believed the stuff. They were already because I believed that the earth was flat and moveable and with a ferment. Yep. Yeah, that book is like holy count Yeah that book. He sold a ton of it and and uh it's I think it's on audiobook now too, so you can listen to it for a few bucks. Yeah, in back, I will they if yeah, if he get that the audiobook

version of that. The reader phenomenal, the reader on audible, the guy on audible who read that book. It's really good. That's awesome. I've got an interview or I've got another connection. In fifteen minutes, I go to start wrapping this up. But a couple of the notes alibis, I need to go back. On July nineteenth, nineteen eighty five, Vice President George H. W. Bush was the one who announced that Christa mccauliffe was

the one selected for the position. So it's funny that a Freemason slash skull and bones guy was the one being basically picked her for the position. Yeah, well, I mean, how else would they do it? They covered that a it's been a good time, a good bit of time covering that in the new Meddle with Me video. I thought that was good because I

think that material that people hadn't been before. Yes, it's important to and it's in our You just have to take the time to look look into her husband in the college he went to, which is a Jesuit connected type of school. It's the signs are there. We just have to take the time. And once again, they build the matrix. So we're always so busy working fifty sixty hours a week, we don't have the time to research. And then again, the biggest thing is finding like minded people and sharing the

information. This is great, but it's also very important to have these types of conversations face to face in your community. Yeah, that that that is one thing I'm going to say that how it is the dyed it the dyed and can do that, and that that's probably one of the thing that it the most calendar for me. It were we're in at fim that it made to do a thing and we're bringing doing it. Yes, indeed, and I don't I know like you're you're frenning in hunt dedding right a homesteady.

Yes, yes, sir, like you're able to home that. Yeah, we do the chickens. That's our big day. Yeah, I want to get into that really that where we're at it. We're not like ditty like what do you think of the good light? Yeah, ditty ditty, But we don't quite have the ability to do that. But I know the thing for everything, Well, no, I was really I would really like to do that. It's so beneficial, number one, to know what you're eating

actually what's going into your body. Even with the meat we get from our local butcher that the cattle is actually like in back of the butcher shop, and we have the amish here, which is a big thing we can barter with. And then we do meat chickens twice a year, so we start our feezer with that, and then we get fresh eggs every day. We have a plant I think it's called the company we purchased our greenhouse from.

We're still and we've had some sub freezing temperatures the last few days. We're still pulling spinach and lettuce and I think my wife just pulled some radishes out the other day. So you know, it's really good because once again, when the do doo hits the proverbial fan. Next year, in twenty twenty four, again, it's not going to be so much to be a food shortage. It's going to be a grocery store shortage, right, Yeah, Yeah, they want to think that they well they don't. They deathly trick

everybody into thinking or forgetting that drove. Absolutely, that's right. The grocery store doesn't have it. I guess we're gonna have to go to McDonald's right when we can. Even you can have above ground you toss the seed and water it and guarded with temperatures. You know you could do it. And everything we have done we've learned ourselves through YouTube. Basically, we learn it, we try it, trial and error, and uh, if I can do it, anybody can do it. That's that's what I always say.

Yeah, i'd really I'd like to I'd like to do that. We're thinking about getting chicken, but we can only have so many because we're technically in the county, the county double. Let you have it like four something crazy like most counties are between four and six with no roosters. And somebody in my neighborhood totally you'll know if you have a rooster, they'll let you know about four or five months. So yeah, uster, yeah, and he doesn't he doesn't know what time it is either though. No, he just

knows when it's sun up. He'll he'll let you know when the sun's coming up. Sure, Yeah, I was gonna say one more thing that you know, you said. Yeah, they've done such a good jobt with the programming of everything. I think that's the exact reason why I try not to ever I find out that, I would say, I don't even get frustrated with people when somebody's like, oh that's crazy, how did you think that? Well, you got to think every like literally everything gets dacked against people

waking up yep. And we were that person wepwards Yeah, yeah, exactly, and it's just you know, it's hard. But at the same time, they're the guy who worked at the home deeper near me and he came up with me to day. He was talking to me, and I could fell he would wanted me to say something that was like he hadn't heard. It almost felt like that did you ever get that, like you meet somebody in there like I wouldn't. I wouldn't say anything weird or cross verse attact.

I wouldn't even really talking to him about anything other than like what we were looking at in the home depot, but he just kind of had that aura and I said something to him about, you know, twenty basically poward you just said about twenty twenty four coming up, and I could tell like it would it was a thing where I should have I should have been like taking the opportunity. And I feel like I thought, I need to get back to like it cooled the way people up to flatter nine to eleven and

everything. But at the end of the day, it's like people are going to need like relationship with the creator. Yep, that's number one, and and that like how do you you know, how do you get people? How do you get people that? And that's kind of weird, but like I don't know, I guess it's it's kind of I get that found kind of delabi but I just thought, know that you could just walk up people am or be like hey, you know, either love you you know what

I mean? Yeah, that's yeah, that's the same with it. I mean that and walking up to somebody and saying the flatter Earth there's it's we just have to be comfortable and Unfortunately they are once again are developing a system where they want us to be uncomfortable with talking to people face to face, right, yeah, and that is something that we need to get back to,

which is walking up to people having a conversation. Maybe there's if you google, I forget what the what the keywords are, you can find printable foldable like trifle. Many places have little pamphlets. Of course, you want to vent these things first, but you can hand somebody a trifle that has a link to you know, being saved, and that's something we should all do, right And you know sometimes I had somebody send me a very nice

t shirt and a long letter talking about that type of thing. You know, flat earth is important, but like you said, get you know, being saved is number one, and that's something we have to get used to having the difficult conversations with, not just our family members, but even people we randomly, uh you know, interact with just for brief amounts of time because you don't know what those people or you may be the last person that

has the knowledge that has the opportunity to subject that person to you know, eternal life. Yeah, yeah, and it gets it gets tough to kind of articulate that. And it also it's also so important to like make so long as I thought about the other day, like just like making some business cards, and on one side it would just say something alongline with like research flatters, and on the other side, I would just get your mobs. Yeah, that's because I think, like that's kind of the simple methinks.

Yeah. But at the same time, like it is all about it is all about like relationships with people, and and we get like you just said, we get so stuck. It's like I go, I go such long periods of time without talking anything but business with people except for my family, that like I realized, like the evangelism is almost non existent, and I don't know that sucks. I hate that. Yeah. Yeah, And the

fact I'm just kind of realizing that right now. Part of the problem is many of the churches have lost fifty percent of their congregation due to COVID. So that was one of the objectives. That was one of the first objectives I talked about this last week was when the Puritans came over, when the Freemasons, the Franklins, the Washington's, one of the first things they did was kind of started to soften religion. Puritans were very by the Book and

strict by the King James version Bible. And then you know, basically the Thirteen Colonies, if you research it, all the states had different thought processes and rules and laws, and they came along and the story is great, right, we all joined together and did this and that. But if you really research the Thirteen Colonies were had a lot of different opinions on how things should be run. And they kind of came along and brought in a federal

government and they hijacked everything. And you saw like when they first came in, we're just gonna come in here and oversee guys, and if there's any disputes between you will be the you know, we'll be the one to handle the disputes between the states. And now look where they have gotten in two hundred and some you know, two hundred and fifty years. It's become this just octopus that that is suffocating, that is just uh shouldn't be Yeah,

oh yeah, I'm not sure now we got to that. But that's that's the whole deport the whole Thank you, yeah, one hundred percent. But you're right. Evangelism. When I grew up in the seventies, bro it was not unusual to see street preachers in my in Delaware, Like here, we had an abortion clinic literally at the edge of our development where I lived. It used to be a Wilmington Trust bank. The bank branch closed and

an abortion center opened up in the bank. And every time we drove out our development, there was people out there with picket signs and obviously, uh they they had certain X amount of feet where they could be. They weren't like right up in front of it, but they were on the corner. And my dad would take them water and he I don't think he was ever really one of the protesters. But you don't see that type of stuff anymore. You see it on TV, right, you see the Palestinians, Russian

the Rockefeller Christmas Tree. I think you see the things that they want you to see. But here in person, I just don't see the things that you'd mentioned much anymore. Yeah, I mean it seems like where I'm at there they're thirty back then, that the city that are are more liberal than others, and the actually you'll see people like banning out that it's one like faction. The road that they're always down by and they'll be holding side that

they you know, whatever the latest like woke talking points. Sure, sure, you know picket, they'll they'll be down there at the time that you know, blue hair and all. Yep, for sure, I'm running up against it. Brother. I did want to give you the final word though before we go. Oh, I just want to thank you so much for having me on. Great great find to talk to you. I've been listening

to you for a long time. Been so cool to kind of get your thought and and uh and to kind of get to know you a little bit. Yeah, it's been really great having a conversation. And uh, I hope everybody, uh you know, if you learn something great, take that information run with it and all of us including myself, you know, and I by the way, getting back to you know, street evangelism and getting

out and get the word in person. I do get it because like there's some cities, uh crime you know, we talk about when we look at the Book of Revelations and Daniel about how things toward the end we're going to be so chaotic. The crime rates in some of these cities are absurd. So there's some people who probably fear for their own personal safety just kind of go out and to do that type of thing. So I completely get at

it. But you know, we all need to do better to spread the good word and the things that we believe in, have strong convictions and have the courage to share things that may kind of go up against other people's personal beliefs, but at the end of the day, if we can get them to think a little critically and then I think then we're moving in the right direction. So again, thank you so much for your time tonight, Jared. I really appreciate it, and thanks to all the listeners. We'll have

another podcast on Sunday night at eight pm Eastern Time for Jared. I'm George God bless y'all. Keep your head on a swivel and we will see it. You're listening to the Fact Hunter Radio Network, Just the Facts, Mammy