The following presentation is Del Marvis Studios Production. Welcome back, truth seekers to another edition of the flat Earth Files. I hope everyone had a great weekend. Actually, as were re courd, it is Thursday, November sixteenth, twenty twenty three. We have for special guest Colton standing by. We'll bringing him in just a moment before we do just a couple of quick housekeeping items. The website again the flat earthfiles dot com. Again, it is the
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Colton, thanks so much. I'm glad we finally caught up to each other. Thank you for having me Colton. How are you doing good? How are you great? And again thanks, it's great. A lot of the folks the conversations we've had go back to the summer and we're just now catching up with everyone. Please tell the audience a little bit about yourself. So my name is Colton Layton. I'm thirty two. I'm originally from Florida, really actually about forty five minutes from the Space Station, and I grew
up there. I went into the Marine Corps when I was eighteen. I went to West Station, California and was in for four years, and then I got out and I moved to Massachusetts and that's where I am now, about thirty five minutes south of Boston, and that's pretty much where I am now. So you went from balmy Florida to the cold, wintry Northeast. Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was a wild journey because I got
up here and everyone's like, how do you like the winter? And I go, I actually love it. I wish it would no ten feet a year, and everyone's like shocked. You know, that's how I am. I prefer the cold much. I can't stand the heat. I think much of it probably comes from spending five and a half years in the Middle East, but but I'm the same way. I enjoy the cold much more than I do the heat. Yeah, no, it's yeah, winter is the best. I actually spent about six months up in a last at My cousin
has a house up there. I went up there for about six months and it was that was even awesome going up there. But oh yeah, I was just growing up in Florida, like, uh, everybody pretty much was in the whole NASA thing. My neighbor he his dad worked on the spaceship. My stepdad's friends they were plumbers at NASA, like everybody was. It was just NASA where we lived. I went to an elementary school called Colombia, and actually in the sixth grade, Columbia blew up and NASA came to
our school and the news cameras were there. And it's been spacey ever since. And then I finally woke up around COVID and started looking into things, and I've found you guys on a whim. Really that's a wild story. Tell me a little more about Florida though, and your your family and your friend's involvement in NASA. Were they like working at the Kennedy Space Center, Kate Canaveral whereabouts? Were they employed or were they like subcontractors? No,
they were like they worked at the Space Center. Like he my buddy's dad. He did something he like clean, I don't know, he did something with We were really little, and he always used to say, like I want to say, like under ten years old, and he always used to say, my dad like builds the spaceships. And I was like, no, you're a liar. And his mom's like, oh yeah, but yeah, they just did that. And then we had some other family friends that
were like plumbers that worked in Kennedy Space Hunter. And then we went to the space camp at during the summer at the space station. Like everything, I had all the stars and the planets and stuff, and my ceiling hanging up. It was just that's how it was growing up. It was kind of wild. And I asked my mom from like an early age, I always remember this. It's really weird because we were just sitting in the kitchen one day I was little, probably I don't know, ten again, and
she was doing laundry and I asked my mom. I was like, if we're spinning, how come we don't get stuck to the wall or we don't get dizzy, Like I'm never dizzy. How are we spinning like this fast? And my mom was just like, I don't know, it's just how we were born into the world, Like we don't get dizzy or nothing. So I just said okay and went on about my day. Yeah, and I think that's the same for a lot of us, you know, I
think a lot of us did question at some point in school. I had mentioned early on in the podcast how our teacher put water in a bucket and spun it around and explained that that was gravity. But I said, well, if that was really the case, should the why don't we flip the bucket around? Should it to be holding the water just like the Earth is
holding the water to the to the ball. And we get a lot of that I think growing up, right, it's just the way we're that's just the way it is, right, kind of ingrained in a lot of cases, just to accept it blindly. Right, Yeah, no exactly. And
then so that happened. And then in eighth grade I remember this. I was in like a cooking class with just that was one of my high school electives, actually with ninth grade, and we were it was me and a group of people were talking about space or whatever, and I said, I said, the only thing I don't get about space is if space just never ends, like where does heaven start? Like where is it? If there's no direction? Now it just goes forever and we just keep spinning and going
like where is heaven? Like how do we just go? You know what I mean? And everyone's like yeah, there, like you're way too deep into this. I was like, I'm just asking, like very curious. Yeah, and that's a legitimate question. And it says in the Bible about Heaven being above us. It's you know that people think that heaven and this is what I think I kind of thought before I actually took the time to research Flatter that was like another dimension almost right. Yeah, it was like
yeah, I don't even know. And then all you got to do is open the Bible and just read and it's it's just like, don't think anything. Just what do the words say? That's all you got to think about. And it's like, oh, yeah, there's no dinosaurs in the Bible. There's no space there. It's because it does it's not it's not there. It's like just right in front of you the whole time. Yeah, it sure is. And another reason I'm really looking forward to the December two
Pastor Odal and the debate he's having with Pastor Lock. I think his name is down in Mount Julia at Tennessee. Did your military experience after you woke up? Did you ever think back to some of your military experience and think, huh uh? Did you look at things differently after you woke up? I don't know, because I remember being on we went on a meal as we went on a ship over to the Middle East, and we nothing happened, but we were still there for eleven months, so I don't really count
that as a deployment. But I was just there. But I remember being in twenty twelve, like being there and my platoon sergeant it was like, he said, the first weird thing I ever heard in my life was this country was built off or there's always going to be worse. People make way too much money. He's like, something will happen and we will be a war forever. And I was like, what how did how do you make money off of war? Like I was just like, I don't get it
doesn't make any sense. And then but now looking into everything, I'm like, oh my gosh, it's right here. This's the whole time. Indeed, and you know, September tenth, two thousand and one, they announced they were missing two point three trillion dollars, and we all know what happened the next day, and then yesterday the report comes out that they're struggling to account for four trillion dollars. And again, war is a racket, which
Smedley Butler wrote the book about eighty years ago. War is quite the racket. And we've been at war pretty NonStop for the last one hundred years, right between World War Two, right into Korea, right in Vietnam, Desert Storm, and then they have the declared wars, the War on drugs with a enemy that had you know, when does the war on drugs end? When does the war on COVID end? When does the war on tear end? They give these vague enemies so they can continue on with their scheme forever.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like it's always something, and it's always it just happens. Like if was I gonna say, oh, the main thing, I don't know if you want to go down this rabbit hole, but that's like about an hour and a half away from me. The whole main thing I looked into and I was like they didn't send the canines, are nothing out to find this guy. They they didn't check his house for a couple of days, and then they found him. He was dead, and I was and I looked, and somebody sent it to me.
They passed like twenty five different bills that like within a week before this happened, like a gun, a couple of gun bills, a bunch of other things. I'm like, oh wow. And then now this happens in Maine, where there's if you have a license and a pulse, you can buy anything you want. There's no gun law, there's no nothing there. It's like one of the free estates. Yeah it didn't It crazy how quickly that story just died. It's like, oh, we found him in a dumpster,
dead with two gun shots to his head. Nothing to see here, move along. And I had scanner reports, by the way, which I posted the initial scanner reports, because as soon as it starts happening, I go to Broadcastify to listen to the police scanners live, and I found someone
who had recorded it. They had said that the gunman. The initial reports all said there was two gunmen of the Middle Eastern descent and they were driving a completely different car than what this suspect was found driving, which ended up being with a white sue brew or something, and this guy came to shoot them, is what I heard. Interesting that Yeah, so I heard it was the Middle Eastern guys. And then this guy was defending people's My wife
was telling me about it. I just left because at this point, like I, I listened to you this and your other podcast, and I just I just laughed. I'm like, they love going after Middle Eastern people. Like it's all like nine to eleven. Yeah, was that everything. I'm just like, oh, I just laughed. My wife's like what, and I'm like this is comical. It's all. It's always something. But it also really goes to speak how how uh? That was such a big event.
It went on for several days and it literally just disappeared out of the cycle, just going yeah, it didn't really make any sense. I I didn't really know. It's It's just just it was there. It was covered and I was listening to actually had a radio station I used to listen to all the time. It was politics twenty four to seven. And then I
was like, I bet this guy's covering it. And then he was like he was telling people like stay inside, like do this, do that, And then some guy called in from Hampshire and he was like, you should be taking off the radio. This is America. You go out there, you have your Second Amendment, and you take care of yourself and your family. Like he started yelling at the radio host, and I was like,
this is great. Like I left this radio station cause it was He's a like Trump to I, like, if we vote, we're going to change the country off of a paper ballot, right type guy. So I'm like, this is why I left this radio station. And then like this other guy from New Hampshire was just like, yeah, like this is America. We need to like protect ourselves like small community governments and everything. And I'm like right, oh, like people are seeing it. Yep, We're getting
somewhere. People are waking up for sure. Yeah. And speaking of that, why don't you go down kind of your your awakening, you said it started happening during COVID, Yeah, so well for yeah, So I I'll
back up a little bit before that. So I was in fourth grade when nine to eleven happened, and I was in like daycare, and this lady came in and she was like the two towers saw today And I didn't know anything, and this is like super embarrassing now, but I was like, wow, that's a lot of water because I just thought there were water towers. And so I stepped out and my parents pulled me out of school and the whole world's coming to an end and they're like we're going to war,
blah blah blah. And then I remember like, and that was that. But then I would say I would say, like ninth grade, I just asked one simple question, like how did Building seven fall till the grid never got touched. I don't know how, It's just fell on the ground and there, And of course my parents said, well, the the twin towers fell and it shook the ground and and that's how that one felt because it was so much damage and all that. And I was just like okay,
but that never really made a sense. So I was kind of always being real curious about nine to eleven. And then yeah, so that happened. And then then COVID happened, and I was upstairs in my house and I saw on Facebook like this killer disease is just going to kill everybody, and I go here, we go and that we were all in lockdown and everything, and they took away. You know, you couldn't do anything we had. You couldn't go into Boston, you couldn't do anything. You couldn't go
into bars. You can do anything without the vaccine. And I my wife was like I'm gonna like she like signed up. She was like the first one to sign up. I was like, I'm not doing nothing, and like no chance because I was self employed so I didn't have to answer to anybody. But then they were like I was I'm not a truck driver,
so I worked for myself. But I was talking to my buddy and he was like, hey, Walmart, the DC's which is in Lewiston where I went, which is where the shooting started there, once you get on their property, like you have to have the vaccine. I was like, I'm not doing this, like I gotta do something. Well, well, I held out to the last second. Anyways, unfortunately I got I only got two shots. But I remember telling my two buddies that were here. I
was like like, we can't go see the Bruins. We can't see the Celtics, Like we can't do anything in Boston without the vaccine, and they both looked at me and they're just like, okay, then we never go to Boston to get it. We just hang out at your house and you
come to my house and they're like they they still didn't get it. And one of my buddies he actually turned me onto your podcast and that I'll get to that later, but I was like, all right, but anyway, so that happened, and then I just was like, this is weird, Like everybody has to do all this and all that, and so yeah, the COVID thing really started to make me look into like a lot more. And like you said a hundred times, Bill Gates builds computers. Why is
he eat vaccines? Like all these people are they're they're not, They're the guy works on computers. What is going on? He's strange, Like I would love to know stuff about him. Yeah, he's a shady cat. It's interesting this guy used to It was reported that he actually created some of the viruses and sold some of the software to stop it. And now he
where does he creates viruses and sells the vaccine? Right? Gaddafi said in two thousand and nine, America creates the you know these things and the viruses and they sell you the cure. Yeah, Bill Gates as well, and he was again is he in your opinion, is this guy like a legit story and he's just an evil person or do you think he's just another player on the stage following a script. I have weird thoughts on so. Uh
so this is very strange. But me and my brother in law, who I'll talk about later, we I'm not maybe not speaking for him, but me definitely, I think this is strange. I think big big players like Elon and all these like maybe maybe uh Clinton, Bill Gates in that like them too, and I don't know, maybe Trump, I don't. I don't know, but I think everything is planned it in an Arctica and then they come here and while all this guy builds rockets, when that's half the
reason we can't go there, because everybody meets there plans it. And then oh, this guy worked at IBM in the garage and now he's a billionaire, even though we knew this was gonna happen thirty years ago, you know what I mean? Like, I don't, that's you. I know it's strange, but that's kind of I don't think it's strongish at all. If you remember on election day or right around election day twenty sixteen, November twenty sixteen, John Kerry went to Antarctica and a lot of people believe he came
back with the marching orders for you know, the next plan. So I don't think it's out of the realm, like you said, they create the stories, right Elon Musk, son of a diamond guy, and maybe they are. I mean, who knows, It's just I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that that's the case. And again, these planners, these controllers are generational. They don't plan for a couple of years ahead. They plan for generations ahead. Now, of course do they change plans.
Of course they do, because anytime you make a plan, there's something bound, something you predict that's going to happen that doesn't happen. So you go to plan B and Plan C and trust me, these guys probably have all the way down to Plan Z two. Yeah. No. But so so then my wife is now like on board with flatter but in a thent he kind of started it for me, even though she like didn't really believe it in the beginning, because so we had a daughter during COVID. I
had my first daughter during COVID, no vaccines. They're like, middle COVID. She they this freaking hospital. I can't believe. This is ridiculous. They made her push in labor with a mask on. For both of my kids. It was I was blown away. They're like, she broke her leg uh in uh. I don't know, like six months before I'm like that she gave birth. So I was like holding her leg right and I was like, I'm not wearing this is dumb. This is my family.
I'm not wearing an ass like get out of my face. And they're like, you have to work. I'm like, so whatever. I would just put it on. Like after the baby came out and everything. They wouldn't come into the room or nothing unless you were all like masked. It was ridiculous. It was just wild. And then we had my son Jack well,
we had me and her. My wife had COVID again. It's crazy how you get the vaccine and you get COVID yep, multiple times, but we had COVID like two days before and so I guess it didn't change your charts or something. This lady comes in like a full bomb suit and like Jack is already born. I'm hanging out. We're like watching college foot I got the TV on and I'm like, what is going on? And she's
like can I entern? I'm like, what is going on? She's like, you're exposed, and I'm like, it's all she just tested negative, like before we checked into we had to check into the hospital and they tested us and we're good. So then she's like I have to leave. Then she leaves, they update the charts, and then she comes in white gown like nothing ever happened, Like she's at the like the grocery store, and I'm like, what is going on? But anyway, so the whole flatter
thing, sorry went down a tangent. But my parents came into town for my daughter's first birthday and we were at dinner and then my wife we started talking about like how the earth could be flat, and my I was like, no, it's not flat, Like I've been around the whole entire world on the ship and i never fell off. It's not flat, Like there's no way. And then she went in the kitchen. I don't know why she thought of this, and she got a circle out of the paper towel
and she goes, what is this. I go, it's I It's I go, see it's not and she laid it flat. She goes, look it's flat. It's it can still be a circle and be flat. And I was like, oh wow. But then I never really gave it any like attention. And then you started to see like like Taquille O'Neal on TNT came out. He he talks about being a Mason all the time. He's
like, no, the earth is flat. Kyrie Irving got kicked off a basketball team for talking about flatter, Like everybody's talking about this is weird. And then a while back I was just I used to watch a lot of YouTube. I still do. And this guy I listened to he's a huge he Asfleet was made reason that got me onto flatters as well. He is like his whole YouTube is faith based and everything. And I remember listening to a podcast back in the day him on YouTube with his buddy and he was
in the seal teams and everything like he's he's done everything, wow. And he was just sitting there talking to his buddy and he goes, yeah, space is steak and the earth is flat. And I go, I'm gonna have to delete this guy, Like I like this guy so much, and he just like ruined it, Like what is going on? And then that, uh, A couple episodes ago, one of the people were saying that the blonde kid on TikTok about flat earth and the Bible. Yeah, there's
a him. I found him on TikTok and he went over the flights and then he showed the Simpsons hitting a home run and through the herb yeah, And I was like, oh, I was like, it's flat. It's it couldn't be more flat, Like there's it's flat, but I could you you could not sell me on space not being real. So I'm like, okay, it's it's flat. Here we go. And then so my brother in law, my wife's sister, my wife's brother, was getting married. So we went to like their uh like engagement party. And you know how
you always have like that buddy, you can tell wild stuff too. Sure. Yeah. So my buddy Norburg shows up and everyone's there and we're all drinking and talking like sports and everything. I go, I go, Brian, I got to tell you something. He's like what because he he was He's like, uh, nothing, he you tell him like it's new to him. He's like, yeah, like I thought about that forever ago. He was into like Alex Jones, which I am too, But like you
said, that guy knows way too much stuff. There's something up with him, right, he knows he knows efforts. That's weird. He's he's a character. But the same guy, Brian I'm telling you about. He He was the first one that said to me that the thing in Connecticut may not be what it seemed to be. And everyone was like, you can't say that. He's like, it just doesn't make any sense. So I knew
I could say something wild to him. Sure, So I was like, dude, I'm like ninety nine percent sure the Earth is flat, and he's like, you know, I have no evidence that it's around. And then my other brother in law, Rick, who actually turned me onto your podcast, was just sitting in the back and he goes, really, I go, yeah, I just the flight patterns all this blah blah blah, like
it doesn't make any sense. And I had zero like Bible proofs, No, no, this was all just like flip flight paths and everything else. And then so I would so the party ended whatever blah blah blah, and then I was I would just like went to work and I'm working and I get a text one day and it's from my brother in law Rick and he's like, I think I think it might be flat I go, dude, I'm telling you it makes sense, and he goes, I just found this
podcast out. You got to look into it and it was your podcast in no way. Yeah, So I was like, oh, I was like, okay, I'm in. And then I ripped through the first ten right off, like back to back, and I was like, so we talk, but we talked three times a week. He's and then he told me about like the fact Hunter now that I always I'm I'm opposite, like you always say that I think I think nine to eleven is is worse because then
people will understand that the government lies. Yeah, but like flat Earth is massive and it's but after listening to the Fact Hunter, it's like this is like this whole thing has been a stage for hundreds of years yep. But everything it's funny now because like we talk all the time and all, like we would go me and my wife just went out to dinner and we dropped the kids off there and we're talking to I'm like, hey, dude,
you check this out. Like, uh, I was listening to this and my wife comes in, ping, guys, stop, that's all you ever talk about. I'm like yes, and he's like no, which like we mainly talk about the other podcasts and and he's just like, yeah, it's wild, but no. Yeah. So I was while I was truck driving, I was listening to the other podcast and I my favorite podcast. One of my favorite podcasts you ever did was the Classic Rock one? What Laurel
Canyon? Oh yeah, my goodness. I wish Dave McGowan was still alive. I'd love to pick his brain for hours. So I like my whole wife's family, we're all in our like mid thirties, and we all should have been born in the sixties. Like that's all we listened to is classic rock. So we were at her in laws and I was talking about Laurel Canyon and my one my other brother in law, who works for a company that puts things into outer space. He always messes with me and my buddy,
my brother in law Rick. He's like, you got like helped him over. And he'll tell people these two things. Earth is flat and we're just like cause it is. And he's like, do you know what I do for work? I go, I get what you do. But they're not telling you like there's probably you think there's eight thousand. I don't even know. Observes that many people that now like that seems like a high number. Yeah, indeed, that that is certainly a high number. It could
be as low as as a couple of thousand, right, Yeah. I just I just think think a lot of people just don't know. But well, I forget what we're talking about. Well you think, let me mention real quick. I think it's really important that that, you know, listen for the numbers for just this one little podcast. There's a lot of people who listen, versus a lot of people who claim to be flatter earthers.
I think it's really important. We're't a timeline where if you're in a position to have these type of conversations, and you're lucky Colton to where you have people to where you can have face to face conversations with this type of stuff, because many people, including myself outside of my wife, really I don't have anybody really where I can sit down and have a conversation with about the truth about nine to eleven and about flat Earth. So it's really important that
we like what you're doing is you're throwing it out there. So I can I commend you for that. Thank you? But oh yeah, no, I remember now. So once again, every time we always meet, like as a family, like a big family, like her family, we all go over there, I would say, like once a month. So we're over there just hanging out watching TV. And I started talking about Laurel Canyon. I'm like, you gotta listen. I I think I told her. I was telling Rick. I was like, you gotta listen to Laurel Canyon.
He's like, all right, I'll check it out. And one of the wives were like, what's that? And she is like, uh, why I word this? She like the no, like whatever, She's not really an outside I don't want to stay outside the box thinker. I don't know how to word it, like a straight al bil personal crutch her soul. If she found it out about Laurel Canyon, like so, I was like, I was like, you can't listen to it, and she's like, why I go. You will find out the whole world is corrupt and
you've been lied to your whole life and it's just it's nuts. You can't do it, but it's and she's just like I was like, if anything, I said this, I go, if anything, listen to Flatter if that's a little more reasonable, And she's like, oh, I could never get behind that. But I want to listen to Laurel Canyon because it's like it talks about and it's crazy too because the doors that who's that guy that's the same that's the town I grew up in, Melbourne, Florida. His
dad like, that's the exact town I grew up in. What's that guy's name in the doors? Uh you mean Jim Morrison. Yes, yes, they're from Melbourne, Florida. My dad lived his whole our whole family lived in Melbourne, Florida since like the fifties it was. And that's the thing too, like it's so like when they talk when you guys were talking about things like that, I'm like, yes, I know that whole town I grew my whole family has been there for since the fifties. I know exactly
everything, and I don't know how much. In that podcast, I touched on the British part of it too, because the Tavistock Institute really was heavily involved in the rock and roll music scene, in the creation of the Beatles and Zeppelin and things like that. Yeah, no, I don't remember that, but I just always I was pointing to Laurel and I'm like, go listen to that. It's I'm very, very bad at I know you always say like, do bradcrumbs. I can't do it. I just can't do
it, and you're just gonna land on that there. So then we so I had my trucking company and it just wasn't working. So I went back to where I started at this like small construction company, and I like started there and like there's like four of us that were that are still there, but there's probably like five new people that I've never met. So it was my first day and I'm talking to this kid and he's like, I'm listening
to the podcast and he's like, what are you listening to? I'm like, oh, this guy, I go, I listened to two podcasts and he's like what. I go, Fact Hunter and uh Flatters Files. He goes, he goes, oh my god, you're telling like the other driver we used to have but he got fired because he was being wild. I go, what, like he was like sixty three and he was he one thousand person that sounded like he listened to the Sacs Hunter. I'm like,
how is that wild? And he's like, oh yeah, like he thought this and about the Rock of Fellers and I go, no, it's it's true. Look up the like the stuff that they I never met the guy. And then but now, like I I talked to the this kid now I talk to at work. He's like, I'm like, yeah, dude, the earth is flat, Like I don't know what to tell you. It doesn't make any sense. And I was like, we're not on a
ball. And then I I don't. My kid had one. I found a ah like a sponge earth and I soaked it in water and I threw it in the air and spun it and all the water came off. I said, why is it not sticking? How come this is falling off? What is going on? And he's just like he was just like, I don't know, but it's not it's and so what he started to come around and everything, and I talked to him about stuff too, but it's just I'm just yeah, not good at him. The whole bread crumb thing.
That's all right, though, I mean for some people, you know, maybe it's not enough because you know, sometimes they leave a bread cumb for something and maybe that one particular bread cumb a crumb doesn't resonate with somebody. I think it really just depends on the person. The one thing I do know, it's really up to the other party to whether or not they're going to be willing to listen or not. You could be the best salesman in the world, and if that person is not interested, you're not going to
make that sale. Kind of a weird analogy to put it in as a salesperson, but really, everybody's different, and I think you just got to find what motivates that person and how to deliver it to them. Right. Just there's no magical elixir for everybody. Everybody's going to have their own individual approach to them. But it's awesome that you have single handedly woken up several people. I try, and then my mom and stepdad are I don't know,
they'll never get it. But my mom, I don't know, like she's odd, Like she when I first told her, she was like, you are out of your mind. Then my stepdad went to Catholic school. His whole life and his whole family is like live by the Bible. So I'm like, I can easily get this guy, Like it's simple. So but that was another thing because I was like, I was like, hey, you gotta like read Genesis. There's no outer er. I go,
and that's how the whole outer space thing happened. And my stepdad goes, well, it doesn't talk about outer space, and I go, yeah, I haven't got there yet. I don't know if outer space is real or not. And then I listened to like one of the first ten episodes on Flat Earth and I go, oh, it's not in there because it doesn't like if regardless if you believe or not, if you do believe, you would think that if this is the creation story and this is how everything happened,
I don't think it would get left out. Hey, we're excellent in space spinning and uh yeah, we're all just here and two rocks they hit and we came from fish and they they fell on the ocean. They came up to the land and here we are, Like, how do you just miss that whole It doesn't make any sense, Like it makes more sense like, oh, it's been a lie the whole time. And the other thing. Yeah, And the other thing I tell people is if evolution is a
thing, why did we just stop evolving? That's what I say to people now because I I'm like, evolution is sick. And they're like, what do you mean? I go? How come? I go? So we came from apes and chimpanzees and monkeys, right, And they're like, yeah, I go, how come meet? Or you cannot go anywhere in the honor for right now and say, oh, in a hundred years that's going to be a person or fifty years that's gonna like it doesn't just stop it.
It's either a thing or it's not a thing one hundred percent. And I've mentioned to people in churches that you know, how can you support the Big Bang theory? And you know their answer is, you know, God is all incompassy. He oversaw the Big Bang, that's how he created. Well that's not what it says in Genesis, right, But no, it's just like you it sounds dumb, but it's just just read the Bible. It's it's there. If it's not there, then it didn't. In my
opinion, it didn't happen. Like, like you've said before, either the Bible is a thousand percent true or you can't. You can't pick. It's either one thousand percent true or one thousand percent falls right, We're not we're not picking here. It's either this is it or it's not. Right. You can get into dangerous territory when you start to say, you know, well this is true, but that didn't happen, right, You could pick and choose. Now, obviously there are proverbs and saying that nature that are
obvious meant to be proverbs and things of that nature. But the stories of the Bible are, in my opinion, it's the most factual history book in the world. I can tell you at the top of the head. The history books that our children have are one sided stories that is a little bit of truth that are covered in a lot of lies. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's crazy, like just thinking, yeah, it's crazy how things are. I don't know. I'm I'm pretty sure you said this in a previous
podcast. I don't know if it was you or another something else I was listening to. But the winner writes the book. That's right, if you win for like the winner, right, So if you didn't win then, like you lost, so how are you gonna tell me? It's we'll just I'll just kill you again, or like we'll just go to war again, you know what I mean. Like the winner writes it. It's not like, okay, you from your side, you tell me and we'll put this to It's one side. That's why they call it his story, right,
his story, the victor story. The victor gets to write history. Yeah, and then but yeah, no, So my mom like she is not really like on board or anything, but she's like, it's you think way too She always tells me, you think way too much into things and all this. Anyway, they moved to North Carolina, which is like the Bible Belt, so there's churches everywhere there. So she called me the other day and she's like, hey, I just wanted to call and say hey.
And I was like, okay, hi, and she's like, we have this kid at work. He's like in his thirties and we were worried about him because he's been coming in late on Fridays. So me and the boss we're going to talk to him about possibly letting him go. And I'm like, oh, okay, Like this is random. I don't know why you're telling me this, and she's like, well, it comes to find out he does Bible study and that's why he's late. So he's gonna start his
days or later. And I'm like, okay, because I that's like, guess we if I talk to my mom, like if we talk on the phone, like it always ends up going towards the Bible, because like you're supposed to tell everybody you know and try and save or get as many people on board as you can. So I'm just like, I don't know, slowly but steadily, just trying to work my way in. And she's like,
so I found that. So I started talking to this kid because he does a Bible study and she's like I had to ask him, Colton, I hope you're not mad. And I'm like what. She goes, yeah, I told him. She goes she goes, hey, my son thinks the earth is flat, Like is he crazy? And he goes, no, there's there's four pillars like just straight faith. And I was like, I told you, it's in the I was like, Mom, I don't I don't make the rules. I don't make things up. It's in the
Bible. Just read it. It's there, and she's like, I was blown away. He said the same thing, like there's the foundation and it's on four pillars. And I'm like, yeah, I've been telling you this and she's like, Okay, I'll look into it more, but I don't know it's gonna be our because her whole life obviously growing up in Florida, and we've talked about it, and she's like, I just want to live my life. And this is what I've been told, like we go to space, we do this, we do that, like this is it.
And I'm like yeah, but you've been lied to. So I'm just letting you know, making you aware that you've been lied to. Indeed, and if you know, they tell us. Man tells us that we have an ever expanding space, where Genesis too tells us, thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them, and on the seventh day got ended his work which he had made, and he rested right it
ended, He created everything, and that was it. Man tells you there's an ever expanding We're constantly moving and continuing on through this never ending space. So once again you have another another conflict, and you can always point someone to Psalm's one eighteen This is what I do a lot now Psalm's one eighteen eight. It's better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man. Yep. And then dang, I just forgot what I was gonna say.
I just had something, but I just I just forgot. So where's your mom at now? As far as like where you sell your owners? They're both and uh, well, my mom and stepdad are in North Carolina and then my whole other families down in Florida. Still okay, I addressed that wrong when I met was where are they in their journey to flat Earth? Do you think they're Oh no, dot, I don't think no. Even after the conversation she had with that young man and everything else. Yeah,
I'll didn't. She'll never grasp it. I don't think she ever could. I just she He saw them land on the moon in nineteen sixty nine. He was five. He saw it on TV. It happened. Well, you know, Nixon was right, nobody will believe anything until they see it on TV. If they put it on TV. And before that it was on the radio again, the Word of the worlds. I did an
episode on that. A couple of years ago at seven million, people call the operator and say, uh, we were being taken over by Martians and people were shooting their local water towers, and yeah, people will believe anything they tell them, and they know that, and they have used the television as a weapon of destruction to instruction of the mind for the last geez eighty years. I know what I wanted to ask you this is this might be like a strange question, but what I think. I think I only have
the only wild or different opinion. What is your definition of Operation Blue Bean? Because I was talking to that kid about it at work and he thought I was insane, but ninety nine percent of it was exactly like his. But I had a different part added. So, so go ahead, I'll tell you mine. My my opinion of Operation Blue being is that they're gonna
page aliens. Aliens are going to come here then in this scenario, but in my opinion, I think that will be the rapture, and when ninety percent of everybody's gone, they're gonna say it was aliens, so they could still keep the other people from believing. Yeah, there's a lot of people who do believe that Project Blue Beam is to create an artificial second coming.
I think that's what a lot of people believe. There's a lot of people who believe that they're going to do this when Jesus returns, Like as I guess, what they say is that his return as he returns, they bring about Project Bluebeam and they hope people turn against Jesus. You understand what I mean? But we know because I don't. I think that would be the opposite. Like if I think ninety nine percent of the problem is nobody believes
it because they don't like it. It was two thousand years ago. Like if I think if they could see Jesus come back and like they would instantly reference about it, they would be sold, right, But I yeah, I don't know, but that's my opinion. Because we're working on a job
and he's like, yeah, watch you'all for Project Bluebeam. I go, oh, you think it too, And then he's like, yeah, what do you think and he said the whole alien thing, and he goes, yeah, then we're going to have to trust the government, And I go, aren't you leaving out like a big part? So I don't know. Maybe I'm the only person that thinks that of it that way, but that's
kind of what I think. Yeah, the ones that I've seen, most people believe that it's it's kind of an attempt to bring a false profit, like hey, the Antichrist is here, and to kind of create like this new age religion to kind of kick off their new world order. And we've been warned about it by many people. Rumor has it that Werner von Brown told his secretary before he passed that there was a fake He didn't call it Project Bluebeam, but he called it. You know, just look out for
an only a deception. It won't be true. The infamous Ronald Reagan's speech from the eighties where if there was a great threat of alien life to come from outer space, that would be something that would draw the world together. Right, we're always fighting amongst ourselves, but if there was an attack from an outer world, it would bring us all together, kind of like an Independence Day type of scenario. One team, one fight, one world.
So that there is a couple of ways that they could do that, And if you research it, there are many many takes on what endgame, what the endgame is. Some believe that it's a again a false second coming of Jesus, and some people believe it's a way to have a fake war and bring about the new World Order. Yeah, I'm curious to see. So I think COVID work, but I think it it screwed everything up. I
don't think. I don't think people are going to be that dumb. But then again, like there's still people driving around with masks on it I far by themselves. So I don't know. But like I would like to have some hope in humanity that it's gonna be a little tougher, But I don't. I don't know. But every time they test us, we fail, right, because as soon as COVID ended Russia Ukraine kicked off, they divided us over that you had a Ukraine flag and your bio where you were pro
Russia. That got tiresome. They've ran out donate to cause or help their needy, needy families in Ukraine. Yeah yeah, like what And now they're done with that, and they went straight into Israel. Palestine, and it's always a conquering divide. You see in the news the Palestinians storming this Israel that their plan is to continue to divide and conquer, whether through politics, through war, through COVID, right to vax or not to vax, to
mask or not to mask? It is it's a continue just like that the line from A Bugs Life. If they find out, you know what we're really up to, there's they outnumber us ninety nine to one, so they keep us divided at the bottom, so we forget about the people at the top. Yeah, it's it's crazy. But I was just going back through old texts from talking to my brother in law Rick. This is from Fox News. They posted this October twenty eighth. I just being like, I
guess awake now it's just comical. From Twitter box News based scare Devil's comment twice the size of Mount Everest grows horns as it barrels towards Earth, Like just like you said, we're always going to get we could get attacked by any like there's always something that could get us. Read that side again, it says Devil's comment, Why is the sighs of Mount Everest grows horns as it barrels towards Earth. That's right. The comic was first discovered in eighteen
twelve. I saw and then I touched it to him. He goes, He's like, this is this is a comical now I said this, I said that grew horns in space. He's like, what a joke. Yeah. If you simply go to Google and just put the word asteroid into the search engine, you'll see years and years of news stories about near missus over and over. It's all, it's all always. I see it all the time on news channels. Closed miss three million miles away or one hundred and
fifty that like that, that's so fought. First of all, if it was real, Like why would you tell someone that's that? Like that's not relevant, but it's it's it's always something like like you said, we're gonna get hit by asteroids. We gotta go to Mars. We gotta do this, we can't can't. Uh diesels bad for you, like you gotta have electric cars and all this. Did you? I wanted to bring some things
up. Did you say this or I don't know if I thought of this or heard it from you, or what are your thoughts on this sounds strange, but what are your thoughts on? Like oil being renewable, like it sure it is, you cap it and then it comes back in twenty years. You go to this hole and it's there's more oil. One hundred percent, And there's many, many stories documenting that, and I actually had too.
I had a listener who emailed me. I'd have to go back and search through all the emails, but their family was in the oil business, and they said exactly what you said. After about twenty years, they could go back and get more oil. For sure. It is, without a doubt, a renewable energy source. They want you to think, because listen, if there's an endless supply of water, they're never going to be able to really sell water at a super high price, right, I'll never sell
water at four dollars a gallon. However, if they tell you that oil is a limited resource, they can play the game. There's no reason that we should be paying three or four dollars a gallon for gas. But it's all part of the game, right, It's all part of the supply and demand game. They want you to think that it's limited and we're not going to drill in America, so we continuously take it from Syria and Iraq in the Middle East, where we could get plenty of them right here in the
United States. Yeah, I just yeah, I also think like there's real free energy. But then they would lose out on getting paid, right, the rocketfeaders would go bankrupt in the lakes. Yeah, Like I always wonder that, like what if what if we just actually had they we were allowed to have like free energy and like oil and just we wouldn't have to worry
about them all this stuff. But home, it's but you saw what happened the last couple of guys who have built hydraulic or not hydraulic hydro engines for cars. Yeah, the guy in the Buffalo shooting. Yeah, the guy in the Buffalo shooting. And Stanley Myers was poisoned at a diner. He's he was the first one, like twenty years ago, maybe longer than that.
He had that car that could go from California to New York and it could take h water from the ocean, water from the tap whatever, and you could just drive on it. They killed him, and then they did the same to the gentleman who was the security guard. I think it was a retired cop. He came up with a engine that ran on water and he just happened to get killed in the Buffalo top shooting. Yep. But no, yeah, it's it's just it's just crazy, Okay. I wanted
to bring this up. This is not really flatter, but so you opened my eyes to a lot of things. I got way into nine to eleven listening to the fact hunter. Now once again, I'm I'm not saying I'm like my mom because I saw it on TV. But I still though two airplanes hit the towers. But we can't find we we can't even find a pair of socks from luggage, we can't find wings, we can't find for nothing. But they found, oh, the pathports were just laying there in
the rubble. They found though, Like I'm, I think there might not have been planes. Yeah, there's a lot of people who buy that theory. I will tell you there were people on those planes and most people below
that it was an Operation Northwood type of deal. And if folks haven't looked into what Operation Northwoods was, it was something that the CIA came up with the nineteen sixty one to kind of provoke the war with Cuba, but JFK refused to sign off on it. Another one of the ten twenty reasons why they killed him, which next week will be the sixtieth anniversary of the assassination of JFK. So there was an old military air base that's not used anymore.
That happens to fall right about where the towers and the air controllers that they can kind of fall off easily off the radar. And we know many of these planes were in the air for what an hour hour and a half before they hit the towers and there were the gap in the radar and then yeah, yeah, yeah, it's again it's a big deal. And the one thing we do know for sure because we can conder and talk about the
other things, the logistics of it, how it was carried out. We know all the Israelis that were arrested that day Google dancing Israelis look at that. People were filming it as it happened. They seemed very excited. And again, when these things happen, you have to ask who does a benefit? Right, So it's a very deep subject. I was honored to interview on September eleventh, one of a gentleman whose father was a firefighter. He died. I think it was on the forty fourth floor. Yeah, I
listened to that. I remember I listened to it. Yep, that was got that was crazy and he yeah, that was wild, you know. And I had said afterwards, you know, we talk about these rabbit holes all the time, and when you talk to someone who was directly I mean with nine eleven, listen, we were all affected with it. We never traveled the same again. The Patriot Act took away a lot of our rights
and freedoms. The Patriot Act is the biggest reason why on January sixth they snatched a thousand people off from their house and threw them in prison while you're supposed to be entitled to a quick trial, and they were just locked away with nothing in sight. But there was people who were directly affected, like that gentleman whose father died that day, And it was very interesting to hear someone tell their story and then for them to wake up years later to it
being what it was. Obviously a story, you know, nine to eleven didn't happen as it was told. I think he said, well, his father's friend came and talked to him about it. It's just man. There was a gunt wrenching interview. Yeah, and then all the like you were saying, the Lady and the Pentagon, that was our first day back.
All the it just there's so many things that like don't add up. It's just and they'll never ever just say it, which it skin it and sucks because it's like and it was twenty years ago, like everybody thinks something was up, just go ahead and say it. But and every day that goes by the less of a chance. We have to get accountability to the people who were really behind it. Again, you have the Pentagon, which is the I mean, I guess you could argue with the White House. It's
the most protected building in the world. And you know there's there's thousands of cameras around there and all we have is like a quarter of a second of granty footage. I'm like, come on, man, this isn't nineteen fifty five. Yeah, the Pentagon for sure was not a plane. I'm I will take that to my brain one hundred percent. You can't. You can't fly that low and not hit the ground. Nope, not at that speed, brother, They're way too low. And it once again, no,
it hits the building. Like can I have a piece of luggage. There's nothing, there's no plane, nothing, it alllodes in it did. None of that makes sense. It just it's mind bogline. But sure is that's another reason I think why they keep the new cycle so busy keep forgetting about what happened in the past. That's why every six months I come back on
the fact Hunner and I play clips from COVID. I want everybody to remember how crazy it was, you know, people trying to get you to take a vaccine for a free hamburger, and the video clips of pastors being arrested for not shutting down their churches. I will continue to do that every six month and for people to recall, and I hope they share them with their children and their grandchildren and their great grandchildren, so the next time they try
to pull something like this, they'll know better. No, no, exactly like my so, my wife's sister. That guy Rick I was telling you about, his wife is an er nurse. He was a hero until the vaccine came out. Now now, and then she turned into a dirtbag, like overnight, Like she was just working fifteen hour days doing everything she can to help everybody with no vaccine, but now that a vaccine is out, she is the lowest thing on earth. Explain that to me. That was
my wife too. She was a hero until she didn't want the vaccine. It just it makes no sense. And I was talking to him about it, and he's like, yeah, like look at us. And I was like, that's so true. Like I I mean, it's it's been not so long, but like you said, seventeen other things have happened after COVID. It's like, oh wow, it was three years ago. But yeah, you just forget. But it's like, oh no, when everything was going on, she was at the hospital for and fifteen hours a day in
a freaking hazmat sue, doing everything she could. But now they got this vaccine now, and now all of a sudden, you're no, you're lower than Earth. Like it's it's ridiculous. Before I get to I wanted to ask you a few more questions, like your magic bullets for flatter Earth and things like that. But I wanted to ask you one or two more questions
about COVID because it's a big deal for me. When I was doing my radio show, I was doing some deep dives because I was on several hours a week into what was going on, and I was shocked to find out in the hospitals in Massachusetts what was going on the first thing that blew my mind was many of the hospitals up there had entire wings dedicated to changing transgender pediatric transgender wings, so they were giving like puberty blockers and things of that
nature as young as ten years old. I was blown away. It's wild story. The lid that did that is where we had both of my kids, and when Jack was born, they were getting a ton. This was last year. He's like, he's just turned one in September. Who were getting a ton of blowback from doing transgender stuff, so they wouldn't even like they wouldn't do like circumcision or nothing. We had to go to a different
doctor. They're just like, we're not touching any kids right now or like anything like even a circumcision or anything like that because they got so much blowback and they just the doctor came in and was like, oh, it's it's this or that. So then we went to our pediatrician in our town and she's like, oh, no, it's because of this, like they're going to a lot of blowback right now. But yeah, nope, that's the it's uh, I think it's Bergham and Women's that's it's yeah, that's the
hospitles that both of the of my kids were. But yeah, it's crazy up here. They can you can be anything you want. And just it's crazy, I had pointed out. I'd literally pulled up their website and read it on air all the things that they were doing. And about a week later, they completely deleted most of the information off of their web page. That had to do it. She said, for information, call or email.
Then that was it. Before that, they had a huge, full page about what they could do for your child, and it was just and again, if you're over eighteen, you're an adult. I can't tell you what to do, but to give a ten year old or to do something like that, man, I mean I get pretty upset just thinking about that. It's ridiculous. Yeah, Like they're not too bad at our like pediatricians,
because none of our both our kids will never get anything. And every time, like my two kids go there, they're just like we got to ask the vaccines available and my wife is like no thanks, and they're like, okay, just want to let you know. And like, for example, like my son just turned one. No, it's it's okay. COVID was three years ago. He's one. He's all set, Like why are we still talking about it? They're going to ride the Caribbe train as long
as they can, I'll tell you. But I had a couple of questions for you, off, You're not really off. Well, how come with like Ukraine and all this and Israel and from a person like that was in the military like me, how come I always wondered this, and I don't know how to explain it. How come people that have never been to war always want to go, but everybody that's been never once never wants to go. Yeah, And I've always said that men in suits have been killing many
uniforms for decades. Many of the politicians from Mitch McConnell, you go to their wiki bios, when they were eligible for Vietnam, they had foot issues, they got student deferments, on and on and on, but they champion sent in us off again. I remember Barack Obama being all proud about how he pulled troops out of Iraq in twenty twelve. I think it was. And actually an old company commander friend of mine was in the last convoy out of Iraq in twenty twelve. He was very proud of it. The m
RAP vehicle is on display at Fort Hood as the last vehicle. And then you know, a year or two later, we're right back in there, and it's just and it's really sad because this doesn't get enough coverage and people may not know that for the last thirty five days between our troops in Iraq and Syria, they've gotten hummeled every night between drones and mortars and rockets,
and those four kids are going to come back. Just I mean, it's terrible that you what do you get rocketed like we did back in O three every single night for weeks and months at a time. You're not the same person. No, yeah, I know. And I was actually I win the whole nine line love And when the whole Afghan withdrawal happened, I reach out to one of my team leaders and I was like, how, like
are you good? Like what are you okay? And he's just like yeah, Like when we were there, I kind of knew it was a shit show from the beginning, Like there's a lot of shady stuff that goes that He's like, I knew as soon as we like he caught out a feeling like in twenty ten when he was there, like if we ever left in
any sort of way, like it would just get taken back over. But then he'd posted something like about the whole He posted everybody that's been to war never wants to go, and everybody that's never been once that's never been once to go. And I just pulled up an old message I sent him. I said, it's crazy. I don't understand. Obviously I never been. I never went to Afghanistan with you guys, but the stories you told me
in the platoon in twenty ten when you guys were there was crazy. It's like these people think that it's called and you can just hit the restart button. I go, this isn't a game, this is real life. And I said, also, people think certain politicians are going to come and save the day, but it's all corrupt and everybody makes too much money off of war. And he's like, yeah, it's all corrupt. I just feel
bad for the kids all over the world mine and no own business. And they get like like that to like speaking from both sides, like our hands aren't clean either, like we're we're doing bad stuff too, And he's like speaking to it like yeah, there's people that say that they're bad. That people tell you these are bad people, but really they're just living their life. And there's a bomb that goes off and everything, and I'm like,
it's nuts. It's just it kind of bothers me that everyone thinks, Like I really feel like people think it's it's call of duty, Like you can just hit the restart button and we'll go get a snack and come back and replay the level. Like this is real life. Like my friends really didn't come back, Like my friends really got shot. This is it's real, you know what I mean. Yeah, Like it's just wild, and it's one of those things you can't really explain to people. You just can't.
Yeah, it's it's it's crazy. Yeah there, it's like uh but and then they'll talk about like we can just mind our own business, like let's just try that's just for ten years, just worry about us. Yeah, it's it's sad. There's a lot of people out there saying, you know, pray for Ukraine that they say pray for Israel, but but they don't say pray for peace or pray for everyone because everywhere innocent women and children are killed. So you should be praying for everyone, and you should be praying
for peace. Yeah. And then the other thing I wanted to just get your thoughts on because you brought it up months ago, maybe not maybe not to this effect. I'm saying this, but like you really brought out to me that it's two wings of this bird with the part because I was a red hat. Donald Trump is the greatest thing. Like it was wild. How I just thought you could just vote, and the world's going to change if we if we tell enough people and go to our town and we're we're
going to change the White House because our guys coming in. But this is me just connecting dots. This isn't anything like that, but it's you mentioned it. Like so they came out with that movie about the the child trafficking and then Trump comes out and says, oh, trafficking is bad. I think we should put chips in people to know where everybody is. At the same time, I heard that, Like that's pretty similar to with buy talks
about and when else, Oh he the fifteen minute cities. He wants that, and he just came on went on Fox or something and said, I promise I will give peace. I will be the one that makes peace in the Middle East right now with Ukraine or Israel and Palesigne. But I don't I mean, I don't know correct me if I'm wrong, or maybe I'm mixed up here, but I'm pretty sure in the Bible it says that there's it's gonna essentially there's gonna be a battle or a war in Israel. It's
gonna get bad. There's gonna be one person that strikes peace, and then that is essentially the Antichrist. Like there's a lot of things that he says that I'm not saying he is. I think it's like the King, the dude New England, that King or some I don't know, but Trump is definitely involved in some way. But he's just saying a lot of weird stuff. That is, if you look into it, it's kind of strange. Well, like all now he wants chips and people. Yeah, like I
don't know, he wants ships and people. He wants guns taken away from people and then court later just it's And he was very proud of the vaccine. He was so tone deaf. He would go to rallies and as soon as he brought it up, how awesome it was that the crowd would go dead silent. He couldn't put two and two together. But the biggest thing is and we fall for it. Is what We continue to relegate power to the top, and that's not how our cuture was founded. The federal government
was built to have such little power. Right, our government should be formed like a pyramid. All the power should be locally. The federal government should be, you know, to handle disputes between the states and things of that nature. But it has grown into an entity that can trolls everything, every
facet of our life, and it's become quite traconian, it parasitic. Look how much income you lose to taxes, and how it's wasted, and how they can't account for their money, and how every single week you look at the moves, there's billions of dollars going out the door. Where's that money? How Come it's not going to Maui. How Come it's not going to East Palestine. How Come it's not going to Flint, Michigan. How Come
all the infrastructures in our country that are screwed up. Why can't we take our ourselves first and then if we pay off our debt and then if we have money left over, like a good person should help other people. Yeah, it's it's all. It's all jacked up. Like I I think you mentioned it in one of the first couple episodes, like what if we just went away with taxes? Like what if we just put our big boy pants on? Earned money took all of it, knows, social Security know nothing.
If you can't be a big boy and save your money for your retirement, well you got to work. I don't know what to tell you. We got to pay all the we got to buy into all these programs and do all that. It's it's ridiculous. Like you work as much as you want, You're gonna get one hundred percent of your money, and what you do with it is what you do with it. Yeah, you can start your own and you know, uh what do you call it the retirement fund?
Right? You can do your own yep. And like I was talking to my wife about it, because I was like, I don't think there should be like any taxes or any like. I don't even think there should be like a national guard. I just think everybody should just have their own weapons and come together as a community and just do that. And she was like, my wife is like, no, like we need these programs and all this, and we're a perfect example. I had a trucking company.
It didn't work out. Guess who's helping us out? Me and my wife and we don't get crap. I go, look at us. We're figuring it out on our own, trying to get out of the hole. And I go, No one's helping us. I go, why can't the whole country just do that forever? Like you make one hundred percent of your money and then you figure everything else out on your own. But we gotta we gotta pay for everything else and the border situation, and everybody needs money that
we got to help for some reason. And the big corporations when they fail, or the big banks, like in O eight or nine, what happens
they get bailed out. Yeah, it's it's insane. Like that whole thing about the banks made me when I realize that money essentially doesn't really exist, Like my mind I was like my mind was blown for a while, and I'm like, oh, it makes so much sense though, Like you need money to buy something, but so you go to a bank and then that the bank essentially gives them a piece of paper saying we're gonna pay you. But you pay the bank and then the bank takes the money that you paid
them, gives it to them. But they keep like the bank never really gave out any money. They gave them a piece of paper saying here, you know what I mean? Yeah, Yeah, it's just it's it's wild how everything connects and all that. Yeah, it's a big club, and we ain't in it. Like they say, we're coming down to the last
ten minutes or so. I wanted to ask you, what are you some of your big bullet points that when you do or when you are able to sit down with someone and you want to introduce them to a flat Earth, which ones you try to communicate the most? I do the uh flight plans. I do the Simpsons, like all the stuff that they do about the like con firmament and the like the baseball stuff. I what else do you think there's you know, there's no real pictures of Earth on Google. It's
all enhanced. There's not a real picture. What do you try to relate that to somebody about the Simpsons? Do they understand what you're trying to tell them? Like? How like they tell us the truth? And in these type of TV shows, like do they get it? Kind of? Like I A lot of people I tell that too. They just say, like the guy who made the Simpsons as a time traveler, and I'm like, I said, okay, but you could just be like out of the Bible,
Like it's the same thing. Not that time traveling is a Bible, but like the a lot of stuff that they forecast is in the same book that everybody like I read. I don't know. I don't know how to word it, but like, yeah, I don't know, so I do. We can see way too far. You can go to there's a place in Indiana, South Bend, Indiana. I think you can see Chicago. It's like thirteen miles or whatever. It's like something. It's like far. You're not really supposed to see it, but you can see. Yeah,
I don't. I I do a lot of like Bible stuff, but not everybody is quote unquote on the bandwagon. So I try to bring completely neutral and just be like, look at this or I don't know, the north Star never moves. We I did. I did the math out to my one of my buddies. I was like, I'm thirty two. We traveled like three hundred billion miles and the north Star has never moved. I doesn't make any sense. Like and we're sinning and you know what, I mean,
so the North Star it never moves. Yeah, I don't know. I probably just stuff like that. Yeah. I've been using the term skyclock a lot lately with people to try to get them to understand that it's the sky that's actually moving and the earth is stationary. And that's it's been called that for thousands of years, a skyclock, and there's a reason they call
it because the sky is what's moving, it's not the earth. Yeah, but no, Yeah, I just try to do like little things and I just I don't know, I try to talk to as much people as I can. I just thought. We have this other driver actually, and he was like, hey, what kind of headset do you use? Because if you have drive us a semi truck and get pulled over, you get like a two thousand dollars ticket to the driver and then the company gets like a
five thousand dollars ticket. So we always have headsets. So I was doing him. He's like, I got this is that good? And I was like yeah, And we were doing a job and I was like, would you let what do you I go? How many podcasts do you listen to a day now that you always have your headset on he's like, I just listened to music. I gotta He's like, I gotta start listening to some
podcasts, and I go, I have two for you. And then I told him about the fact hunter and flatter and I knew he didn't get the vaccine, so we like started talking about that and he's like, how do you. I started talking to him about flat Earth and he's like, I go, there's no real pictures of space, like go on Google, They're not there. They're enhanced. He's like yeah, but we went to he
goes, oh. And then we started talking about evolution and he's like, but the science and I go, yeah, but the science said the vaccine was good for you. And he's like, that's Jeff Ferd. Dude, you got to be an idiot. He's like, he's like, you people are dumb if they got the vaccine. I go, yeah, but it's like I'm trying to say, like, but the same science that said about the vaccine. He says that we're in a ball and we're spitting, and you know when he gets Disney and all this, and so anyways, I
was like I was telling him. I was like, look, if you want to, I go, I could talk for hours about this. So we listened to episode one Prescott Bush and on The Fact Hunter, and he came back and he's like, I have like seven thousand questions. I'm like I'm like all right. He goes, what you cap out? He's like, what's Dematria. I'm like that it's like a number. I was like, I'm not, I have no idea, but it works, like it just the math math's out. It's it's weird, but it works. And
he's like, yeah. He kept talking about numbers, and so I got him on that and he's like, yeah, it's crazy. I was like yeah, because I was telling because we were talking about sports, and I was like, yeah, DeMar Hamblin number three, who passed out and then on the same team a couple months later. This is what started the conversation.
The same team a couple months later, Damian Harris broke hurt his neck and he had to get in an ambulance with mar Hamblin's number was a three, but it was on both doors, so the ambulance number was thirty three and Damian Harris's number was twenty two, and the skull in Bowen's number is three twenty two right something like that. Indeed, they'll was like, wow, this is the same team, Like I don't know how many more like coincidences. Like I was just like, oh my gosh, this is nuts.
And he was like, how does how does Dematria have to work with the Buffalo Bills. I go, just look into it. I go, I'll just leave it at that, and then you can do your thing if you want to. And then then we started talking about the other podcast, and he started listening to a couple episodes, and I'm like, I go, you a long way to go, buddy, I go, but we're going there. Yeah, that's good that you've got people questioning the truth.
That's that's what it's all about. And that there's a very famous picture right after his injury. The entire team is circled in a huddle and everyone is kneeling except for one guy and that's number thirty three and his name was Neil. Oh wow. Yeah, I'll put that in the link for for folks to check out. Nothing to see here. We've just about hit the night
minute marks. I want to give you an opportunity. I really appreciate you coming on, and I'm glad we were finally able to catch up after several months of correspondence, But I definitely want to leave you with the last word, just keep your head on a swivel. I really got nothing. That's pretty much it just start. Don't take things at face value and look into things, look into everything. Yeah, and that's a good point in myself.
You know, several years ago after I come to grips with flat Earth, I was disappointed in myself in a way because to think that, because obviously I was into all the conspiracies, quotes, conspiracies, and to think that they were lying about everything except that we were on a ball that's spinning, hurling through space, et cetera. I was kind of like, man, that they really really have a great psychology, right, they built the
matrix perfect, They have as doubting one of the most obvious lies. But also, and we've said this before, it may not be a salvation issue for those that are saved, but however it can be certainly a deterns to people who are not saved to really understand what flatter earth really means. Yeah, I agree, Like, I don't know, I just I think it's it's obviously massive because you're being lied to and that's just another way for them
to control you. But yeah, it's it's not really a salvation thing, but it's it's good to know, like the truth, and then you have all the scriptures and everything else that would favor your opinion, your thoughts. They certainly do a heck of job, heck of a job trying to hide God to think that you're just here in a very small space and time that we've been around for a billions of years. And yeah, and it's a
gravy train too, right. Look at how much honey NASA gets and you had family members and friends that were a part of it, so they obviously are going to buy into that wholesale. Yeah, and it's which is fine. I mean, I guess yeah they can. I mean they get a check or whatever, so they can. I'm not gonna like argue with them, like it's just this is what I think. And if you think that that's great, they'll be it. I guess. Well done. Well,
thank you again for joining me, Colton. It was great to meet you, and thanks again to all the listeners. We appreciate the continued support. I hope everyone has a great week and keep your head on a swivel ladies and gentlemen, and until the next time we meet, we'll see it. I know it's been a struggle. I know you've had spain. I don't feel tired, held down by all the way. Yeah, I know you feel more you smile. Ain't the same I saw well go from here.
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