Episode 112: Flat Earth Interview with Brandon from Australia

The following presentation is Del Marvis Studio's production. Welcome back truth seekers from around the world. It's time for another edition of the flat Earth Files. I hope everyone is having a great week. We have a very special guest joining us from Australia in just a moment. His name is Brandon. Before we bring him on, just a reminder, please do stop by the website, stop in the chatroom, drop your questions in the forum for everybody to ponder,

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the next week to ten days. We're going to catch up with your emails and some interesting articles that you all have sent for the listeners to hear.

And also before we hit the record button, Brandon and I were talking and I've mentioned this on my other podcast many many times, but I don't think i've ever mentioned it here, and we were talking about how on YouTube and other platforms over the last several years there's been a great, a great cleansing, if you will, of Truthers that hasn't really hit the podcast community yet,

but I think it's a matter of time. So reminder, if we ever do get pulled off the podcast Realm for any reason, we will continue on on the website. So just in case, even if we don't make it to tomorrow, I wanted to say that is the backup plan if we get the YouTube treatment like many other Truthers got. Our fallback plan will be to continue this platform on the website. But with that being said, do look ahead in the next week to ten days we will catch up on listener

emails, voicemails, and et cetera. All right, so let's go ahead and kick off today's podcast, and joining us from Australia is Brandon. Brandon, thank you so much for sending us an email reaching out and wanted to come on and tell your story. How are you doing today? I'm good, thank you, but also at the same time I'm quite nervous, just

because two reasons. You're the first person had an audible conversation with about this topic and secondly knowing it's going to be an audience of a couple hundred thousand plus people listening and it's playing on me. So no, it's it's just refreshing though, to be able to actually get my thoughts out, you know, I believes, and because as you know, if you keep somethings such as by birth, which is extremely significant, trapped inside of your mind,

it can can almost in you crazy. So yeah, I'm just glad to be on here and just a shout out to you. Thanks for all the great work you've been doing. I've watched, I listened sorry to all of your episodes now and you've had some great guests on and yeah, so brilliant

stories that they've shared. So you know what's really amazing is I would say probably upwards of ninety to ninety five percent of the folks that have come on have never even really done a public speaking engagement or done anything on a public platform like this in the way that people have been able to really take their story and share with the audience so well, and it resonates with everyone because I think the important thing whether or not we agree or disagree on some of

the what about satellites? What about this? At the end of the day, I think most of us realize that we're being lied to on a grand scale. And like the other thing we were talking about before we hit the record button was we just don't have a lot of people locally. We don't have a lot of friends or family members where we can have this type of conversation with. So it is truly refreshing to be able to sit down and have this type of conversation. Yeah, no, I definitely agree with you.

I've tried to bring it up in a person to multiple people, but you know the story and how it goes the indoctrinational lives so deep within them, which that was was at the same time. You know, we call it discredit that we call them, we call it be arrogant about that and the way that day look at us, they think we was born with the Laites, when in reality, we've all gone to school, we've all had

the same education as to them. We've all gone through all the science subjects, including physics, and you know, funnily enough, we actually know more about the globe model than them. And it's just unfortunate, really, And that's the way it's all unfolded. But yeah, I'll kick off again into my story. But basically I was nineteen years old, so I'm twenty six now, So yeah, seven years ago I stumbled upon matter and basically I

wasn't really exposed to many conspiracies before that. And besides nine eleven, which is pretty much the gateway conspiracy to most conspiracies, I mean, it's pretty much ninety nine percent of other people that picken others most likely started with nine to eleven. And yeah, I was at a friend's house and we were just you know, drinking, having a chat, and we started talking about nine to eleven, the Rocks Child's how they control pretty much all the central

pacts around the world. And yeah, then it just spot something within me to some you know, puriodosity that wanted me to find help more. Because when you first start getting into conspiracy, it is really fun. It is because it's something so bizarre and something you know, sort of different from what you believe and from the main stream narratives. It's just, you know, it is fun talking to what the other side of it is. And yeah, that just basically went me down the rabbit hole, as we say,

and I stumbled upon. I think it was hollow Earth before I got into flat Earth, to be honest with Yeah, and hollow Earth was pretty convincing. I think it's with hollow of the entry was like at the North Pole. I believe that's what I was listening. Yeah, I was listening to that and did a quiet night to belated video and then the video still And obviously the way the algorithm work back then, back in twenty sixteen is it

would show you relevant videos or relic videos to whatever videos you're watching. Whereas as we walk not to day that just does this And basically from that it took me to you obviously know who d Murphy is, right, Dad Murphy. He had an episode live on TV in a Scandinavian country. To remember which country was? Was it Estonia or I don't think it was Estonia? I want to say it was Oh my gosh, I tell you remember episode of What About? Don't you so again? You know which? You know

which episode referred to? Or I feel where is? Yeah, let's just call it Scandinavia. Right, Yeah, he went He went on there and basically he dropped so many thought provoking points that just you would have never even thought of you know, like you just lived in every day today life and these questions and things that he were bringing up. It just really just triggered

some sort of curiosity with him to kind of word more. And then I watched the hat and then I brought it up to a friend in real life, and then it convinced me that it's obviously clearly not what and I believe that, you know, then unbelieved it. So I was going a bit back and forth between it, just because it was so out there. It was hard to kind of believe something that, you know, what's extreme.

And then just something drew me to it again. I just, yeah, it's just something just wanting me to learn more about it, and luckily it did suck me in, and yeah, I just consumed so much information about it. Back then in twenty six sixty was the golden era of you know, you know, anti anti error, the things that against the major narrative by you know, conspiracy as such, and that eventually disappeared, as we

know, the great censorship program of Google. And now it's basically you tied up in any conspiracy and you actually get the opposite of conspiracy, You get why X is so stupid or you know, all said, Yeah, it's just obviously there's there's reasons why they do that. It's damage control obviously, and they don't want people to find the real videos that the videos that will give you the correct answers and things like that. So consumed a lot of

Dad Murphy. Shout to Dad Murphy. It is brilliant the way he articulates himself and some of the points has got a just a great the album. Watched him. I highly recommend getting on too Deefy twenty five on YouTube and Eric Dubert of course, and I'm pretty sure everyone's listening to Eric Dubay. He obviously created the two hundred proofs spinning goal and the same with him.

He's just so articular and very knowledgeable as well. So yeah, and then, like I said, just kept consuming content and videos and it got to a point where you're kind of just thinking, like, but wow, it's just it's it makes so much sense, you know, I was saying to you, being nineteen is really young to even be considering something that is just so against reality. When people that age are worried about, you know, what they're studying or what could go to do on the weekend, got a

friends drinking on in whatever it may be. Don't get me wrong, I was still doing a little bit of that, but no one else. But's really you know, thinking deeper into these things like myself. So, and as we were talking before the show, it's good in the sense because like a lot of older people, you know, forties, fifty sixties, even seventies, they're just waking up now to these truths. Yeah, so for them to live fifty sixty, seventy years with that belief and now they've got

to try and unwinde all of that programming, it's good. Be a lot harder for a twenty zero to do, Does that make sense? Sure? So, yeah, it just shattered my quoe belief of reality because that's just what we're told when we brought up, and it all starts from when you're in that classroom and you're shown that'spin ball, and throughout your whole school life is just indoctrination. And yeah, just something so profiled like that, it's just it does It makes you kind of anxious, of course, and you

go through all these emotions and it's just yeah, it's it's incredible. Really, I was thinking about it. I was thinking. Most people can probably agree with me here discovering the truth about flat Earth, which basically on bils the reality of who we are, what we ought, and why we hear a souch and yeah it's a destroyal It's yeah, it's just it's just crazy, George, Yeah, that's it is. And I said many times I

don't know if I could have handled that when I was your age. But at the same time, you had a lot less to unwind than I did, for sure, and a lot to say and look back over the thirty years, especially of what I did you know as a profession. But the other thing is waking up prior to twenty twenty, how did that change your view on the world and medicine And we saw a lot of crazy tyranny going on, I think probably more in Eastern Australia than the West side. But

how did that being awake during that time? How did that affect your life and the things that you saw down in Australia. So basically, at first I didn't believe it. I didn't believe that. As soon as I've seen it, I'd already understood how big Famer worked and how it's just it's a money machine, and I'm aware of obviously Bill Gates and his agendas and things

like that. And prior to COVID, there's obviously the video of the simulations of a mass pandemic that came out, actually seen it a before COVID, So seeing that and then seeing COVID get released, it just I was just chuckling to myself. And unfortunately Australia was the first country to introduce mandates, so he didn't get the job. You were rejected from certain public places,

mainly restaurants things like that. My work is I'm in the mining industry, so Australia predominantly wa is one of the epicenters of the world of mining, gold at or and things like that. Massive industry yerea is pretty much the backbone of the Australia economy. And my job basically involves flying to and from work, so you're fly into work and you fly out from work otherwise not as fire for and because you're flying so much, you need to get the

jump to ride. So I was in a position of you know, potentially getting out of that role, which would be a lot of money to be sacrificed, which I could really afford. At the time and getting the jamp of course, so it was a gamble. It's like playing Russian buru weete.

So originally I think it was you just need the one job to work, get on the plane of flight to work, and they brought out the second job, so I to up the gamball, got the first one, nothing really happened, and then they brought out you need to get your second one to you know, continue and go up. So I got the two jobs to keep on working to pay for the bills. You know how it is when you're trapped inside the system. Very odds were escape person. We

don't. And yeah, it's just it was hard for me to small as well, just because I knew that the agenda behind the vaccine. And I mean, I don't want to say there was nothing I could do about it, but there is. Obviously you've got to you've definitely got a choice, right, But it's indirectly forced upon you, do you know what I mean?

That's how to good at work with it. We're not forcing you to do anything, but they're indirectly forcing you to do it because as a result of not getting the jab you know you can't do this, you can't do that and push in a very different position, George, It really does. So it's very evil what they do. What they did to people, making them force people choose between a career and an experimental vaccine. That was the

most evil thing I've seen in my lifetime. Yeah, definitely experimental is Yeah, it hits the nail on the head definitely, and especially releasing something so soon without any even mid term studies, waltern studies and things like that. Unfortunate. Well fortunately I don't feel any x now. But who used to say, five ten years something called creep up. We just don't do it.

So and you know, most of us have had vaccines from being a kid, right obviously poorly all we hepatities and things like that, and nothing has really happened. And I'm not saying before vaccines the way I believe it worked is probably got good batches and bad batches, and unfortunately those back batches are the ones that can do you know, detrimental damage, you know, autism, Dado syndrome, things like that, you know, things that really mess up to you. So but yeah, just just gets just to get

a little bit into vaccines. You know, as I was saying, went down the rabbit hole of different conspiracies and watched so many videos on vaccines, finding out that there's fetal mattering there, you know, body fetuses and ethyl mercury, you know, all these other things that are proven to be harmful to the human body. Yet you know, people still take them. It's

just I think it's all about what enness George. People don't have the time because we're so busy, we're so so caught up in work, and you know, just so many distractions around us to stop us from taking the time to look into these things. So fortunately for us, the people that do discover the truth, it's it's great in that sense because you're you know,

you're tooling up your arsenal so to speak. Yeah, you're preparing yourself or future circumstances where hope can they have choices such as getting the jab or not. But yeah, I don a lot of people didn't take the job, which you know, good for them if it was. If if I didn't get that decision forced upon me between a job and a vaccine, definitely will

have got it. Definitely would have got it. So yeah, So yeah, with the mining business, I assume that's got to be similar to like I have friends and the oil business where they'll fly up there and I think they work twenty eight or thirty days. Then they're off for maybe a week or two. And while you're up there, you live in like containers with another person and then they serve your food. You're isn't twelve one twelve ye

is? It's it's kind of like that. Everyone's got different swings. So you've got obviously one week on, one week off, two weeks on, three weeks or four weeks on. I'm one week on, one week off, so it's a great balance between being away from work and being holed from work. That's nice. I've got one, what one child now, he's just turned one and the wife is pregnant, so thank you. Yeah, we've got our baby girl to next year in April, in the bed April.

So yeah. So basically, yeah, like you said, you've got doggars up there, and yeah, it's it's it's not bad. It's not bad. It's not as bad as people think it is. But yeah, it's a great industry, Sipean. You know, the money is good, of course. It's it's one hours, don't don't get me wrong, it's twelve hours. Per day. Yeah, but when you put in perspective, you work up there for a week and when you get home, you know, you've got a full seven days off just to kind of relax and do

and do nothing. So I too talking about my children actually and the vaccines. Why she's not quite awake to the potential damage of vaccines. So unfortunately, the one year old Vincenzo always called he got his form mother jabs ah, and she wants to He's gonna have another set of one years old. She wants to get loaded up on those as well. And I've tried staying to what you know, I just I don't believe it's necessary. It's not

needed, and you know how it goes. It's just that they're so not not to sound arrogant, but not to sound like, oh I know more than them more because I don't know this. It's just they're not aware. They're just simply not aware of not educated about the opposite information of what we've been told, you know. And Headbum's done it this way, so she's going to do it that way. You know how dolls take the mother's advice

and things like that. So just it's hard for me to swallow really because I just know how you know, bad vaccines could be had, so many horror stories of people jabbing the children and you know, get illnesses, sicknesses, chronic illnesses and sometimes terminal So it's a scary thing for me, definitely. It's George. Indeed. Indeed, so you were nineteen when you woke up, and I'm assuming, pardon me if I'm wrong, but I'm assuming you probably met your wife later on after you were waking up, right,

No, not really quite a while. Amazing, Yeah, seventeen. I was seventeen. Well I was still together now, so I've been so eight years. We just got married last month. So wow, congratulations all around. So thanks highly stealed it. How's the conversation when you first came into the information? How long was it until you started to share it with her or at least pick her brain about it? Probably pretty soon because the emotions

that it caused, you know, anxiety, depression. You know, depression is a big one, just because, like I said, it just shatters everything you think you know about reality. Because fundamentally speaking, all the main quarter the leak of any human being is you know, we came from the big bang of course, and thelution occurred, and here we are today, this space out there with an infinite an infinite amount of planets, and you know, that's just what you believe, and for that to come crashing down,

it just it really does take a toll on you. You know. I've heard you say, and many of the guests said they couldn't sleep for a while, and that was me because you're just stuck in your thoughts and at the same time you kind of thinking like I just crazy, or you know, like is this true? And you're upset as well because you know no one else is going to listen to you, and no one else believes you. So it's just how it is. We've all gone through it,

haven't we. We've all gone through those emotions, and yeah, explain it to what I was like, this is the reason why I feel like this. What do you think? You know? And she's open to it. Don't get me wrong, she knows I'm intelligent, she knows she knows that

what I'm talking about. But I just think at the same time, people don't realize how important it is, right, Yeah, people just think People just think, oh, well, you know, if it doesn't matter what shit in the Earth is because you know, just we're still living life the

same way and things like that. But in reality, I think the reason why people think so shallow like that is because they think that all believes stem around a shape of an earth, for God's what it is, with the existence of space still in it, do you know what I mean, And the existence of the Big Bang and the existence of evolution. But in reality, all beliefs are you know, when you deny the heliocentric model, that

means everything else disappears as well. So getting into that, you know, we talked about the agendas on here, and there's definitely two man agendas that play. First one being a monitory agenda. So we've obviously tolked about how much Na's earned per day, right, I think it's something like seventy million, seventeen billion a day. But I'm not just that. I've not heard

any will mention this on here yet. I'll bring it up, right, So it's fair to say that the music and film industry are pretty big. Oh sure, right? Yeah, sorry enough moving in film. Sorry, that's the same thing. Movie and music industry are massive, yeah, Like music is a part of pretty much every person's life. Every day. Movies are a part of every every every person's day. How much do you think the music industry is worth, George, Oh, I mean I knew a

revenue. Yeah, And before I said that, I want to preface this. I've had the I've been able to peek into the music industry and their parasites. They're absolute parasite. It's just like every other major industry. The actual content creators, like the kind of conversation we had beforehand, how little content creators actually get from actual revenue. I've had the ability back in twenty twenty to peek in personally and see what kind of cut and what percentage that

people who were actually grinding and making the music actually get. And it's a very parasitic business. I did want to preface you git that, but I would understand if you were going to buy like the entire music industry within itself, I would bet you it would be close to a trillion dollars. Yeah. Yeah, well, I'm not surely talking about anewal grossing oh annual I

would get yeah, billions of dollars probably, yeah. Yeah, So I'll just put into perspective, right, So, the music industry we're talking twenty six billion. A yeah, wow, okay, the movie industry one hundred and fifty billion. Well do you think the space industry is worth? Well? It's funny because on a recent podcast or no, maybe I was being

interviewed by somebody. I had mentioned that because I did contracting in the military and every now and then audits would come through and you'd always have your receipts and they would question this. And I said, if you were an auditor, right, there are deity contractors who sole purpose in life is to audit government spending. Would you question a nut and bolt that cost fifty dollars because

it was for the Space Shuttle? Like knowing in the back of your mind that you remember when you were X amount of years old that the Challenger disappearing into the sky in flames, would you question anything that had to do with NASA? So I imagine just I mean, we know how much did they get from the government, but they don't talk about the entire business as a whole, and it's probably upwards of a quarter of trillion. Do I would

say two hundred and fifty billion dollars a year. So music industry twenty six billion a year, Space industry four one hundred and fifty billion a year. I was off two hundred. So we're talking, we're talking, Yeah, we're talking. The space industry is twenty times bigger than the music industry, which is unbelievable to think about. So yeah, like I said, we bring up how much nasamatic, but as a whole we don't talk. That's never been mentioned. I don't believe. So we can definitely see that money

is at play here, and not just that, George. The biggest one is the the you know, hiding God in a sense, hiding you know, what we are, who we are, what this always, what is reality? Where we came from? And because like I said, with the heliocentric model, that also from the Big Bank, which just to add, the Big Bank is still a theory. Theory doesn't mean fact. And just to add as well, you know the Big Bang theory being invented by a priest. I'm not sure why you got so much credit, but yeah,

it's just it. The another sort of thing with flat earth is when you look into it, when that all gets stripped away, you're left with so many unanswered questions, aren't you, yes, so many because your answered questions in the past, were came from the big bank, and we evolved from prime ord. You'll lose that, you know, eventually became a switch, funnily enough, stopped evolving. And yeah, you just don't question anything else. But then when you learn about Flatterer and it goes from a belief to

a knowing, it just opens up so many unanswered questions. And yeah, I'm a believer in God. God. When I say God, I'm referring to a creative of course, this was definitely all created. I don't know how, but yeah, I believe God to be some sort of intelligence, some sort of source at the center of everything that you know, has created everything. And unfortunately we can't prove any of that. It is just again

a belief. We can take others faith, but we all one hundred percent know everyone who's listening on here, that we definitely didn't come from nothing, which in a sense is counterintuitive to physics because it's it's said that energy cannot be created or destroyed, right, So for everything to be here coming from nothing, does that make any sense to you? Absolutely not, And that

goes back to myckery. They mock us so much. People don't even realize that they don't even hide things anymore, and they do it out of mockery. And getting back to theories, et cetera, Heliocentrism's most basic, you know, foundation is gravity, and gravity in itself is a theory that is based on extremely borderline proofs. Again, the universal theory of gravitation is not a fact. It is a theory. Just because you hold an apple up

and drop it on somebody's head doesn't mean that there's a gravity. All of that is a theory. But when and here's the thing. And I've said this many times, but it bothers me because people will continue to question you, what about this? Well, what about this? And if you can't answer every single question, which is humans, that's kind of pompus of us. Right, There's some things that will just never be able to prove. And some of it is because we're not allowed to experiment on our own.

There's laws, can't go past the six degree parallel. And if you can't defend every single question, then it automatically defers back to their thing, the ball, which you know I've got right here. I got a cup of water in a cup. If I didn't have this cup, the water would be all over the place. Yet you tell me that that water trains and trillions of pounds of water can stick to a ball that is spinning one thousand

and sixty seven miles per hour. Yet a little billow of smoke can just rise from a fire, a butterfly can float through you know, why can't I jump higher in Nova Scotia where it's spinning not as fas I mean, there's just so many things that have fallacies in it for people to say, well, if you can't answer every single one of my questions, then it's a globe. Yeah, that's yeah. I've personally found not in my experience.

When you try and bring up, you know, a topic, the topic of conversation, it just becomes an argument, you know, and you could give twenty valid points and if you can't answer what one of those questions, everything that you've just talked about is completely discredited. And yeah, it's just I think at the same time, we can't we can't blame them. We've all been there and it's just cognitive dissonance at the end of the day. If you're it's what, it's just, it's a survival mechanism of the

hu membrane. If you're trying to upset somebody's core belief, then it's psychologically a response for them to try to defend that belief, you know, So they're trying to find any reasoning to hold on to that belief, and that's what we see. But yeah, going back to gravity, a funny thing as well. Again, none of us probably know this because we don't think about it, but we believe we're told that gravity comes from the center of the Earth, right, and it's a molten ball of a glover or whatever

it is. And the funny thing is metal looses magnetism when it's melted. Oh yeah, you know, how does that make any sense? George? It really doesn't. And not just that, the fact that we've only dug seven and a half zero zero plate five percent yep into the Earth's surface, but we we somehow know, you know, all the ways of the Earth and what's in the center Earth. It's just absurd, you know, it's just for us to believe that, Yeah, we're really all golible, you

know, we're really all glible. Yeah, And I think a lot of it again is out of mockery. A lot of it is, like because you know, the illuminated, the illuminati. The illuminated they like to you know, they've retained the information to look at these peons. They actually believe that they're on a bar that's spinning, hurling through space and all of these other things that they mark us about. Let me ask you another question to

kind of go a little different direction. People like Bill Gates when we were talking about vaccines, people like Elon Musk, who is you know that the keeper of free speech on Twitter now and also a space guy SpaceX and I guess he was on Joe Rogan again within the last couple of days. I've

seen some of those guys floating around. Are these people, whether they're presidents or these big people like the gates Is and the Elon Musks, are these genuine characters or do you think these are characters that have gone through whether it's like a CIA or a deep state type of thing that you know, they train or I don't want to say breed people, but you know they raised these people to assume a role and become a character on the world stage.

Actually, so that have to be you know, that have to be controlled because you know, they all most slightly know the true reality of the world. You know, they definitely know that space doesn't exist. Eon knows that is rockets, so they curve and landing the scene of the murder trigle. So yeah, they'd definitely play a role or we'll never know what We will never know what sort of initiation you have to go through sort of contracts that

they have decided. But you know, I definitely believe that's that that's something that goes through some sort of you know, you know, ceremony or contracts or whatever it may be. What have been some of some of your several bullets that you if you ever get the opportunity to talk to someone in person, what are some of the things that you can relate to someone easily for them to understand. Some proofs of flatter that you've had maybe some success with.

The biggest one for me, George, is the crepuscular rays from the sun. Right, I'm blessed enough to live on the coast of West Australia, so I've got a beach five minutes away, so i can see the sunset. Look, I'm obviously d're on the east side, you see the sun rise. Whereas I'm lucky enough to see the sunset, okay. And you know sometimes all the time when there's clouds in this openings, you'll see

the rays come through the clouds. Right. So if we'rely thing on a you know, a ball, right, and the sun is throwing live from where it is in a you know, linear direction, and it's hitting the face of that ball that's facing the sun all at once, then shouldn't you see those postul be raised from as far as you can see right down the coast, from all the way to the left right, that's right? You know that that in the scale of what the white the amount of light that's

hitting the earth, you know, it's it's still a small scale. And you know you're talking so obviously that the white, the white from the sun lights off of the earth right at the time, okay. And the distance of that we're talking thousands of miles, are we So the distance from the sportage you can see right down the horizon on the sea from its botty left and you can see we're still probably talking the air thousands of miles. So

it should be that the light comes down just we don't see that. We see it convergible to a certain point, which confers that we have a local sun. So the old points to the local sun and not just that. Another thing as well, it's the reflection of the water. They're getting back to my POI where half of the earth is are linked up right, We're talking a massive area, a massive volume of water that that sun is hitting. So why is it that when we see the reflection of the water,

we're only seeing a reflection of a span of fifty two hundred miles. You know, if someone's as big as it is and as far obvious it is, we should be seeing a massive reflection, George, that water should be ablittle from you know, like I was saying, all the way to my right and all the way to my left, I'm looking at the horizon out at sea, but we don't see that. We just see it in a

very localized, so small spot. Yeah, I agree. Then there's some people who will try to argue that we well, how come I can see, you know, if it's flat, why can't I see the sun? You know at nighttime? With my tell it it's a local sun, right even if I hit you know, ten thousand and what light? You know, you know a couple of miles above and I'm not saying it's a couple

of miles, but you can only see it. Everything is you know, everything is perspective, just like the picture of a long hallway, right, the hallway seems to narrow towards the end. Is it narrower, No, it's it's your perspective, the same as the horizon. And the fact that you can't see it from you know, our sun here and when it's nighttime in Australia is because it's local you you just can't see a light that far away. That's correct. Yeah, that's that's a good analogy as well.

That's the one that I use. The whole way world is not that it's getting narrowa but it's it's like an illusion, an optical version to thin given eye is, if you're in the hallway that's very long, you'll see the walls come in, you'll see the floor come up, and you'll see the roof come down to meet eye level. Right. But we know that the floor is it's flat and straight, and we know that originally is flat and straight, but visually we're seeing the floor come up and the roof comes down.

And that's the reason that the sun seems like it's going down over the horizon. It's just all perspective. Like you say, another one as well, I believe would be curvature. You know, we just we cannot find curvature. And you'd also think as well, George, that something quite as significant as curvature, it should be included in like the physics curriculum right at

school. Yeah, you'd think when you're learning about the Earth and the size and the dimensions, surely did teach you about how to work out the curvature. But the reason that's not on there is because when you do find out the formula and you apply it to real life and do different tests at different distances, it doesn't match up. And there's been hundreds of proofs of people

seeing things that they shouldn't see. So obviously the biggest swamp being in the Chicago skyline, which is the only mirage that you can see every day of the year, apparently, no matter what, yeah, yeah, not just that. The fact that you know, the world's longest shot was five was it five hundred miles or nine hundred miles? I don't think it was that far. Are you talking about with a rifle? No? No, A shot is in for photography or photography shouts, Sorry, I think you're talking

about there was a staper who did a shot recently. Yeah, it was something that effect, and it was way too far, way, way, way too far. Yeah yeah, I'm being here. Actually fortune forty three kilmas and basically the things that it was capturing in the distance, when you do the calculation, it should be hidden behind thousands of feet curvature, that's right, and we simply just we don't see it. So you said that was four hundred and twenty three kilometers. Yeah, so that's two hundred and

seventy five miles. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah, it really is. And how about the simple things? No, no, no, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut off. I was gonna say, what about the explanation for the simple things that when you're a child you think about, Like when I was, you know, seven or whatever, and the teacher

spun the bucket of water around and said, that's gravity. You know, when you're a child, you just say things and you don't worry about peer pressure, and actually you get you know, you're supposed to get smarter anyway. I guess what I'm trying to say is like at seven, years old,

I said, that doesn't make any sense to me. And at seven years old, I thought, well, how in the people in Australia, you know, I'm looking at you right now, it doesn't seem like there's a bunch of blood brush into your head because you're upside down and all these other things that you know, the boats on the equator, how how do

they? I guess that was one of the things when when I woke up during the two weeks of frustration and anger and happiness and everything else, realizing that I'd figured out the matrix was I was kind of, I guess, for lack of a better words, I was disappointed in myself that I fell for such ball, you know, water sticking to a ball that we're spinning, you know, and just the theory of people walking on the side of the earth upside down and things about nature. It was It's silly to me.

Now, yeah, I mean when you said you were quite frustrated because you didn't realize how I'm psurd is at the time. You know, I believe that's because you know, I've heard it quite a few times on your podcast and Residents, and it's so true that in school we're taught to just listen. You know. This is how it is, you told what things are and then in order for you to to level pe, to pass the silence, to get good grades. It's just all about regurgitation, isn't it.

It's just testing how good your memory is and how well you can basically pull information from that memory in order to pass past the past the test. And in reality we should be you know, given you know, pretty cool thinking questions where we need to work out problems and solve things and things like that, not just this is how it is. Memorize it and write it a book, you know. So yeah, it's it's bad in the sense because we can't really yeah, we can't really kind of get frustraighted and that,

you know. I mean, it's just that's the way the system has been designed. Yeah, And it's so intricate, and it's so intelligently designed, Georgie, so deep, and I don't I don't don't. I don't want to give them too much credit. But no way they've executed George is just phenomenal. It just it's it all ties in together. It's the way I picture it is. It's just a wend it's just a huge spider web of little eyes. And the glue that's holding all together is what is the

helios entered model. And when you stripped that a way, everything else is revealed. Everything else is kind of destroyed in the sense you know, yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right. And I've said before or you got to tip your cap to the enemy for constructing something where like you said, you're so busy working and everything else, you don't really take time to look into things. It is a very cleverly created system. The matrix is and something

you touched on that is near and dear to my heart. It is the education system, right, And I think true and false and multiple choice questions are some of the most It's going to sound silly to some people, but if you really think about it, true and false and multiple choice questions are some of the most detrimental things to ever hit the education system because think about it, you're taking a test and you're in third grade. The world is around true or false. Well, if I say false, I'm wrong,

Well who says the world's right? And that completely kills like you said, it completely kills conversation, It completely kills critical thinking. And if you're in any type of science class. What's the rule you're supposed to continually to question the theories of science, And in this case, it's not. It's an open and shutcase. And if you disagree with the mainstream thought, you're wrong. You fail. And look now, look what happened over the last three

years. If you disagree with the mainstream thought, which was vaccines, you failed your deep platform, like we were talking about before the podcast, you were your PayPal was taken away. This you know, some people lost jobs. And it all starts in school with you know, not to oversimplify it, like not with a true and false question, but that is as a big part of the problem. Yeah, I definitely agree n And the way science has been constructed, you know, it's it's encouraged to you know,

think differently. And the way it's painted is SI should be an open book. No, s I should never be a closed book. But when we start to approach different theories and things like that, you know, you get rejected, which it's kind of it's kind of silly in a sense like that, but as well, especially the globe model and especially helio centrism, is none of it abides by the scientific method. You know we will in school

that you know, the scientific method is something that is observable. It's measurable, it's testable, it's repeatable, can you quantify, it's tangible. And in reality, George, none of the facts or supported facts, and you know for figures and things like that, it's all stuff that is numbers that are sort of incomprehensible, things that we will never be able to experience, never be able to see. So that's the way they play it, George.

Really, they just they've made it so we can't experience anything in a sense. And yeah, people got to say, you know, sciences and science is basically religion. I wouldn't say science as a whole, you know, you know, you know science has does some great things absolutely medical in

the medical field. You know, we've discovered these drugs that can treat certain things, and people that are in pain, you know they have pain relieved, and you know, certain drugs taken in surgeries to do certain things. You know, to say, to say science in the religion is it's not quite right. I think space is a religion. And the reason that is is because it's all fait based. So that's it. You just you believe things without ever being able to prove prove yourself. So yeah, well done.

And something that I've mentioned before, I know on on this podcast and getting back to to your history books. Two people that controlled McGraw Hill is the second biggest text way. I think it's number one in America, number two in the world, Pierces number one, but anybody who's been to school in America you get the mcgral hill textbooks. And because Lane Maxwell's father he had a publishing company, he owned mcgrawl hill Books for many many years.

Not a good person. And Leon Black, who was the CEO of Apollo Management, and it turned out that he and Jeffrey Epstein were buddies and he gave Epstein almost two hundred million dollars he was in charge of these books. So there's some very evil people in the world that have their hands on our textbooks. So again, if we don't, if you just accept everything because it and again it goes right. The guy in the lab coat said we

should take our jab so we should probably get it. Question everything, you have to question everything, and that's what it on Clods down to. Yeah. Yeah, Well, what I've come to learn is the more science sciences essentially became weaponized because it's got one of the most powerful tools within it, and that is there's something that can make you believe anything that's said. Right, you know, if something scientifically proven, ninety nine point nine percent of

people will believe what has been said. God again, George, there we go. Sorry about that, guys. The NSA was really upset with their conversations, so they killed the zoom. But we're back, yep, yep. So yeah, where I was was basically the basically the manufactured something so powerful, and that is they're able to make anyone believe anything just by adding on the end of it it's been scientifically proven or it's scientifically proven, nineteen

nine point nine percent of people will believe that. You know, we'll take that on board. And that's such a powerful weapon, George, because you know, if you can make if you can control to the beliefs, then you know you've got quite a heavy control. And then as we know, and not just that, going back to wasting about the education system, obviously, you know, the Rockefelts have a strong strong hand on that. I think the care goes something like, you know, if we if we basically

control the book, the control nations. Yeah, they control the information being given out certainly. And the roth found said, we don't care who rules the country, We only care who controls the money. So obviously that information and money are two of the most powerful things you can control in the world. Yeah. Yeah, and and that's why they Sorry, go ahead, sorry, going back to beliefs, it's but I think I've heard I've heard

on the podcast, and I definitely agree with that. You know, going back to a kid, you know when we're talking about Santa Claus and things like that, and you know, you come to know that they're or why ah, you know that kind of psychologically damage to a little bit because you know, you then taught that you know, it's okay to lie and everything that you believe I don't be true and things like that. So yeah, it just condo wints everything, really, George, Yeah, there is a

strong everybody has. That's an issue everybody has to deal with, is uh. You know customs, you know that we have as families like Christmas and Easter, you know, and then you find out that much of this stuff is really based off you know, paganism. And then again it gets to like you said, just even taking all those things and putting them aside.

It's it is a lie, right, And if you tell a child that there's a guy who you know, rides around on reindeer and drops gifts down your chimney, and then of course, like me, you live in house that have a chimney, well, Santa Claus get in, Oh he comes through the mailbox or whatever. It's just and I've seen it before. It's devastating to some kids when they fight, yeah, when they're seven, eight or nine years old. And to me, it's like you're told two things

when you're when you're very small. Is you know that you have the planets dangling above the crib? All the children have that, right and Santa Claus, well, it turns out only one of them's alive, but the other one is real. Trust us, Yeah, pretty much? Yeah, yeah, going to an ext couple silver Bull's Yeah. Obviously we've first starting with the crepuscular rays, the curvature, and I believe the moon and stars are

a big one. The moon in particular, because what I've noticed as well, when you've got a full moon, right, for one, the properties of a dusty all aren't really affected with light, right, we're told that why reflects off the moon and that's why it's so bright, of course, but you know, a big dusty bawl of rock. I don't really see how that can be reflective physically, and not just that when you do look

at a full moon, it doesn't represent something that is a sphere. You know, if we're told everything's sphery cool and all the planets, the moons and things like that, it just doesn't look like a sphere at all. It's just it's a flat circle. There's no shade, there's no high light.

Because if it's a sphere, right, the white should hit the thing it hits for the white should be the brightest on the face it hits first, right, And if it's a sphere, it should exponentially, you know, bit weaker around the edges that it should create shadowing and things like that. But yeah, we just don't see that. And yeah, we can get to the moon's a big one as well, you know, with the moon landing. It's just it's it's crazy. And if we're seeing something that

bright, why isn't the moon lit looked like a Christmas tree? You know, it should be extremely bright and not just that Another good one as well is with the moon. If in daytime it's as bright as it is on Earth, shouldn't be applied the same to the moon. Shouldn't the moon just be as bright as the day on Earth? Like it makes no difference. But they'll come up with some bs like or the why you know it reacts differently because of the earth atmosphere and things like that, you know how it

goes. But yes, the stars, that's that's a big one. That's a very big one. When people were about when you went about that, you just like, I don't like, you know the fact that the stars are the same today as they were when people were painted on rocks and on walls. That's right, It's that's absolutely mad, George. And when you

see the time lapses, it's just a perfect circle. And if we're traveling at you know, if we're spinning at one thousand mile an hour and we're rotated around so it's sixty six thousand mile an hour, while space since you know, expanding at six hundred and sixty six an hour, you know, shouldn't we see like a disfiguration in that time lapse? Shouldn't we see you know, squiggles and uneven patterns and things like that and polarish. You know

Plaris's dead center. It's never moved once. Yeah, it's just it's crazy to think about George. It really is. So so yeah, Stars that that's another big one as well. And just to get into stars a little bit further, what really baffled me was have you heard of starring a jar? Start in a jar? I'm not percent familiar with it. I meant, well, so basically you're able to recreate light in water using sound otherwise known as so on all women essence. So light can be created through sound

through water. So then that ties into the furtherment and the waters above and the waters below. And I believe that's how stores. That's what those lights are up there, or its energy vibrating the specific frequency, and when you look into it, you know, you gets cymatics and how water can give

a different shape based off and frequency that's being pumped into it. It's crazy to look at geor which and yeah, they've got different colors and different patterns, and they basically like you know when sometimes you see like a reflection of water like a pool or something on the ceiling, the rippling the fact either rippling effect. Yeah, that's exactly what stars are. And you see heaps of videos and telescopes and stuff like, you know, zooming into them,

and they just don't look like terror firm the objects. They really don't. The only reason people believe that, you know, planet side of the way they are out there is because Jupiter, when you look through the telescope, Satin, sorry, Saturn, the ring. Yeah, there is a there is actually something that does like represent what seems to be to be a with a ring around it, which I don't have an explanation for that, you

know, and I don't think we will have an explanation for that. I believe the powers that be at the very top they probably know what it is. They probably know what we are, why we hear what happens after we die? You know, They've someone living right now has all those answers, and yeah, it just it goes, It goes sort of deep. Georges, you know, obviously looking too Freemasonry and how they like to put them bark everywhere as well. George, you know that the six sixty six that's

that dominates the heliocentric model, It really does, is it? How many coincidences. Does it take, George for something to smell like bs? It is crazy, isn't it. It's just the numbers are everywhere, and not just that every single significant scientist that contributed to the heliocentric model was a freemason,

that's right. Typing you know, you're typing basically all of them, galle Lego and all of those and typing the portraits and the ball got a compass and square or they got the hit and the and in their jacket. Yeah, classically, Like you said, George, it's like a stamp. I believe it's like it's then marked the show. You know who's control in that agenda basically, So not just that, you know, the compass of the square are the two tools needed to navigate on a flat planet. That's

right. I believe that's the reason behind those two tools as well. It makes complete sense. And going back to what you had mentioned earlier, if the Moon was really a sphere like the Earth, are you telling me with all now their excuse is the reason we don't see any other part of the Moon because it completes one full rotation exactly the amount of time the Earth does. What are the odds of men that there's just you can't see any other

part of the moon except what we say. It's really yeah, I know it's crazy, and I think as well, you know, the Sun and the moon being the same side. But the reason that is because the Sun is four hundred times further than the moon, but it's four hundred times bigger exactly exactly, and not just that. We've obviously just recently experienced the full

like a blood moon with the load eclipse. What was interesting to me is with a sore eclipse, obviously the moon covers the Sun right allegedly, but we never see the moon prior and after going over the Sun. That's right, it's just a business the sun. And what all sorts of makes sense is with a word or eclipse, it's allegedly cold because the Earth, the Moon, and the Sun all line up right, and the Moon is in

the earth shadow. But if the moon's like here, you know, with such a large object in front of it, which should be blocking the light from the Sun hitting the moon technically should have been receiving any wives at all because it's being totally consumed by the large object that's in front of it. Right, do you know what I mean, as light doesn't bend, I

cannot bend. You know, light just basically travels in a straight direction, and if there's an object behind it, then that's four times deside of it. Then it just doesn't make sense how there should be any light hitting that object. But I think when you're looking up this day, I it's to do with durist fraction of the Earth's atmosphere. Of it's just you can't make this stuff up to you, which you really can, no And they reverse

engineer all this stuff using math. And that was one of the things that one of the people that they disgraced because he knew how free energy worked and he really knew that the secrets of the old world is like I used to say, is is Tesla? And Tesla says, science this part of science, at least was using math to replace actual research just because numbers work right that they say this is the end state we need, and then they figure out, well, if it's four hundred times apart, then it'll work.

So we're going to use that, is right, Instead of really looking into how these things work, they've used math and almost backward what's the word I'm looking for here? Backward engineered these numbers to make them work for their endgame, which is really centrism. Yeah. Back to Testler, actually he actually

says he's got bad. It's cool if you only understand the secrets of the niedbos, they could you know, think in terms of energy frequency and vibration, not just you know, electromagnetism plays at massive all of this as well, because, for sure, most interesting to me is it's been proven that we actually have an aura. You know, there's specific cameras that can pick

up a troidal field around us like an aura. But they say it expands to six feet, which is probably why they said social distance six feet. And yeah, just to kind of add to that as well with the electro magnetism, I find it very interesting because a common answer that a common question that comes up from other birth is, you know, how do you explained the tides on the moon. Well, if the moon is causing the tides on Earth, it should affect all bodies of water, right, Gravity doesn't

just select and choose what it has an effect on. It should be all equal. And you know, it pulls the it pulls the waters of the sea, but large bodies of fresh water lakes don't have tides correct, which makes absolutely no sense. And when you're look into it, it works out. It is probably the most likely reason it makes the most sense is when you add salt to water, it becomes common up to correct yep uh.

And you know it's all to do with the charges, you know, the moon being negatively charged with something positively charged and all these electro you know, magnetic monetic fields that are working not just around us as well, but on these celesting of bodies as well. And I want to bring up something quite interesting as well. I've discovered an experiment with is have you ever heard of the rice experiment? George? Yes? I have, yes. Is that

the one where you talked to it one way? Yeah? So I see basically proves that all for obviously effect other than the frequencies, right, and the frequency of your force can affect external physical things. Yeah, that was a range. It's absolutely baffling. Yet, So anyone listening if you haven't

heard the right experiment, so I could then conduct it for yourself. Basically, you've got you got three joy, got love, hate and neutral and on the love jar you're basically right love on their market and just don't speak, you don't have saying thing, just just think. And basically, for the love jar, have thing positive thoughts, give it love, loving frequencies, loving energy. For the hate one vice versa. Of course, for the neutral one, do nothing and every single time you can repeat it it

for many times. It's one the one jar will stay nice and fresh and luffy, and the hate jar will go moldy and very fast. And I believe the same. It's it's baffling, like if that is true, then signs should be pursuing that that's the road we should be going down. In

fact, all internal thoughts can affect the external things. It's crazy, but I believe at the same time, the powers that be don't want us to find out that information because it cannot be sleep it can it can benefit us, you know, you know, and that's they don't want that want us to be depressed. He want us to be to be poor and things like that. And the same could apply to plants as well. You can make plants grow faster. But I'm sending certain frequencies to it. It sounds absolutely

crazy. George Brandy does, but yeah, gotstem from what we see could test what he says if you want to understand the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration. I just thought I add that there because if people do want to reach out to me and they've done

that experiment and it works, yeah, it's crazy. Another one's old, George, which is quite easy to test, is there's a book I was reading by Pangarel called Eat Squared. Nine thought experiments you couldn't do right. One of them is get a metal court hanger and basically create two ones with

it. So basically like a thin piece of metal something that can just bend the courthanger, the metal court hanger, uh, so you can grip it with your hands and it's like two guns essentially, and you stand there and basically you don't have to say anything again. Just sit there, look at your your two little ones you've got, and stop thinking negatively, right, And what you're noticed is the ones will stop pulled in, stop moving by

themselves. It's it's baffling. I can't believe when it started. When it when it did it to me, I was like, wow, this is absolutely incredible. And when you think positively, George, they'll expand up and out really and yeah, Yeah, and that just proved and solidifies that we've got there's more to our senses, you know what I mean, There's there's more to what we can see and thing beyond the senses and how frequency and

vibration pas that's its part in it, in this whole existence. Yeah, they're the two one two wants to try it Rats experiments and the metal core must be metal because obviously metal's conduct of course of these frequencies. Yeah, for sure. And I did find on Amazon. I found the link East Squared nine do it your Self Energy Experiments and it's written by Pam Graut, and she says that consciousness trumps matter and you can shape your life with your

mind. So I'll put that link in the show description. Also in the show notes the Impossible Rice experiment, your three jars ignore hate and love. I've seen that before and it's it's crazy. So what's your thoughts on joking on that job? I hope it is true. You know, if you tried it yourself and it happened to you, how would you react to that? What would you think? Well, I think anybody who has pets,

it's the same thing. If you treat a pet with love, no matter almost what kind of dog it is, it's gonna treat you with love and respect. If you have a dog and you beat it all the time and you treat it terrible, it's going to be a miserable dog. And I think that applies to more than just those type of beings. I've seen this done on multiple the rice experiment. I've seen several YouTube channels do it.

I haven't done it yet. I need to sit down and do these things because once you do it for yourself, there's no denying it, you know. And I've done the moonlight experiment, and that to me, if you understand that the light is actually colder than a dark shadow, then you know what they're saying is not true. And it's important for people. If you can do these experiments yourself, do them. There's no better uh, you know, information than from yourself. Yeah, no, definitely enjoyed. Experiment

station is probably the best way to solidify elite. Well, it's all good saying these things and having the information we know, and you know, saying all we can see too far. Go yourself, do the experiments and tested and really proved to yourself. You know what you believe is one hundred percent concrete, one hundred percentury, right, absolutely, and just turn my video off because it's it's lagged a little bit, so hopefully that'll save on some

bandwidth. And we're coming up on the last fifteen minutes of the podcast. Did you have any other silver bullets or was there anything else on your list that you wanted to make sure you covered before we wrap things up? I mean, I've got teach just thinks, George really living salt flights is a big one as well. Yeah, you know that's proof that we live on

a flat plan with no curvature. You know, we're able to see the reflection at hosts haven't been there myself again, you know stid videos or people recording on them, and when it reads just a little bit, it leaves like a thin way which looks like a complete mirror, right, and people recording being able to see in excessive fifty por smiles, which doesn't really make sense on a boat, right, Joe if there was curvature, and how

would you be able to see clouds that are fifty two hundred mouthware the reflection blow it? It just makes absolutely no sense. And getting a little bit a little bit into NASA nowt so when you start talking to NASA, where you start looking into Jack Parson's and his ties with Alistair Crowley and the word of von Braun, how he's you know, confirmed to be a that's Sember. And then look into Operation paper Clip, where the US brought off heaps

of Nazis to work in high organizations. You know, that should start during the long belt right straight away, people you know involved with the establishment of NASA. It should you know, some radars, some bell should start ringing. But yeah, not just that, the whole NASA thing, you know. Then look into the wargo with the serpent tong and how NASA you know, you know you look into the Hebrew word and it means like deceive to see things like that, and yeah, the the ISS's that's a big one

as well. What's crazy, George is people claim to be able to see the eye sss at that time, right, yeah, and ask itself this, right, so when you sometimes see it plane flying at thirty five thousand feet which is equivalent to eight miles, ye, you know, sometimes you can see a little if the sun's hitting off the wingle whatever you see a time little speck and yeah, it's it's very hard to see. That's I'm trying to say, Georgia. It's only eight miles away. So at night

time we're somehow able to see something four hundred and fifty miles away. Something that something which is the size of a football field, right, three times the size of you know, three times the size of a plane. It just makes no sense, Like, how is that possible? And when you start to look at the footage of the eye said, I believe that that footage is real. I just don't believe that it's filmed from two hundred and

fifty miles. I believe it's like a pile of altitude drawn that just applies like a curvature effect to it. The reason I say high altitude drawn is because the land mass size is that you're being shown on these streams don't really match up to the size of the mass, the size of the land if it would have been taken from order fifty miles away. So yeah, that's that's another big one. And you see the videos like of the ISS where you see like the actual ISS itself, and you both like, how's that

video being recorded? George, Right, it's as if it's just a model hanging there with the Earth coming behind it. Like, but these are the things you don't really question, like you just watch it and take it what it is, you know. But yeah, another thing's well which interests me is the ISS is supported with flying at seventeen and a half thousand miles an hour, right, George, Yes, and they actively well they constantly have

to keep sending supplies for sugar the ISOs. So I could be completely wrong, kid, but something traveling seventeen half thousand miles an hour? How is anything docking to this thing? The auto doc But it's absolutely yeah if it kids, it just really isn't seventeen half thousand miles an hour? Like a bull, it travels watch George, seventeen hundred miles an hour. Well, that's what I try to explain to people. I say, well, what

about the space walks. If you're going seventy thousand, five hundred miles an hour and you open the little capsule, how are you just not decapitated? Well, George, it's space is in a vacuum and it's not really getting the wind up there. Are you kidding me? Yeah, it's crazy. On top of the vacuum, it's impossible for a non vacuum to quakesist next to a vacuum. Correct, it's just it's not it's all repeatable. No, it's not testable or it has to have a contenter. You know,

it can't. It said, Oh, it's because the atmosphere tape us off. It's like, no, that's not how it works. Vacuum next with non vacuum. We'll make the non vacuum become vacuum. That's just the way it works. And when you learn these things, you're like, wow, like I was, so they pulled the wall over my eyes for sure, Yeah, for sure. But yeah, back back, back back to back

to the eye sets. You work at all the footage on there, and you know, been hundreds of clips of you know, ho, this is being seen wires and uh, you know glitches and studio glitches and things like that. You know, there's the footage off. I think it's good, the bathers being pushed new wheelchair through. There's that you can literally see a chronic Keyloise Green. Yeah, like you just you can't make these things up. And the one that made watched was the guy that's doing the trick.

And you just you know, sometimes you get the little punk of gravity and it's called life balls and trolls. It's just it's comical, it really is. Yeah, well yeah, and that's all the is it just it's just a fraud, it really is. Yeah, that was the explanation where that guy was trying to switch out a bolt on something and it fell straight to the ground, and it's like, oh, sometimes the buckets are gravity.

Sure, whatever you say. I'm really glad you brought up the drones though, really quick, because I'm going to give you the floor is that we have drones that It's funny that the drones we used to have would fly thirty three thousand feet. They love their thirty threes. But within the last few years they actually have drones. Now I think they're the Zephyr drones and they can fly close to eighty thousand feet. So they do have drones out there

that can fly that high. So yeah, now you totally ride that. I believe that some people believe, you know, it could be like an old mill. It's pretty illitary. Airplane and ball what we do orge it's not something traveling essentially out that's about an hour in a vacuum. That's sure for sure, like the U two aircraft, the spy plane we have that can fly about the same Yeah, yeah, that's the one for sure. And then you know you discover the Van Allen Belts and how you watch the

recordings of multiple ash notes saying different things about the Van Allen Belt. You know, can they get through it? And sat left Bullworth all a bit because we can't get through the ban Allen Belt. You can't make the sub George. You just have to look for it. These guys are saying these things. And just to top it all of George, you know, you've got people like don't pet it, that stay second, but we offer that technology you know, destroyed it and it will be painful to build it back

again. Well yes, it would be painful to rebuild nineteen technology. But you know we've got twenty twenty three old George should have back to the moon, you know other times, but then people say, oh, there's no reason to go back, like, well there is, you know, like they've only explored five one to five percent of the moon. You know what, what's you know, there could be anything allegedly, you know, this is assuming a heliocentric mobile. You know, in twenty twenty three. Now

we should have live streams the astronauts up on the Iss. They should have smartphones now where they've got Instagram and social media. Can't be doing live streams every day that you know. You don't see that, George, You just don't see it. You know, there should be cameras set up on the mood, you know, live streams on the Moon. You know, like there should be all these things now. But you know that they've never gone back to the Moon because they can. You know, we've got the technology

to there to prove that they can't and didn't. And the fact of the matter, Ise George, is they physically can't anywhere because the Moon is not physical a thousand percent. And you know, people will capitalize on anything. And if it was legit, you know, fifty five years later, we would have Jan and Joe Normy going to the Moon instead of going to Disney World or or Vegas for a vacation or where you going. Oh, we're going to the Moon. You know, we're going up there for three days

and they can kick back and look at the Earth. Yeah, we got back to the moon. Voyage ball cannot sends see like what ridiculous, Like Colb. Just one last thing as well. Yeah, I want to get into antist group. Bit well it'll be a little bit too well, but I believe if we'ren't able to prove it, well, the best like you'd be able to prove a flat earth, right, is if you have to

sit down to get around Antart's right. If you're going one direction, you'd have to you'd constantly be steering right, wouldn't you That's right, because you'd be you well, well, make if you're constantly having to steer right, and then five swords if you got the place the other way, you're constantly having to be steer wet, steering wet, then that would literally prove a fighter you know, bore whatever trembled for that old but as we know,

you know there's military ships that will intercept you if you get too close because at the end of this door, when you're doing things like that as well. Yeah, and that was a big one for me when I was doing my research when I saw that Captain Cook when he circumnavigated Antarctica, he he logged sixty thousand miles and was it like two and air for three years, Yeah, which makes absolutely no sense. George, I think antot it was about twelve thousand stopping that. Yeah, like they say, but yeah,

that's that's that's a big one as well. A big one as well is the Antarctic Treaty, George, Right, all of the countries that hate each other still signed to it. You know it absolutely no sense. You know, we hit Ukraine, we hit Roushia. Sorry, you know, all these countries that are allied slash enemies, but there's treated for some reason,

we're old friends, we all shake hands with. Just that on the world should be a bit suspicious, you know, that should start to bring the bats alon right, especially like you said, countries that we've been I mean, look at Russia for the better part of eighty years, they've been our mortal enemy. There was a time there in the nineties into the two thousands maybe where we were you know, buddies. But all these countries that are

in our sworn enemies except you know down there, I truly believe. And again, another thing that I'm really glad that you brought up earlier was Jack Parsons, because I think there's probably a few of our listeners out there that have never heard or researched Battylon working and this is a series of rituals that was performed shortly after World War Two with Jack Parsons and the scientology founder l Ron Hubbard and these right, Yeah, these were all based on the incarnation

of Babylon and it was the ideas of Alistair Crowley. Yeah, and these are the people that founded NASA. Yeah. It's it's incredible, isn't it really? And then just the top it all of Verder von Braun, who you know is a rocket scientist, and you know, assuming he would have been into space and physics and all that, but he died obviously too.

He referred to the Fermament, which is obviously what he's covering us. Essentially, he could have put absolutely anything on that tombstone Georgia, you know, to do in course the universe or space or absolutely anything, but he decided to choose something like that. So that's just I think his last sort of message to us, you know, as he went out a great I think everybody, you know, as they get closer to death, maybe they have

second thoughts. And I think that there's stories out there about one of his personal assistants that had warmed of Project Blue Blue Beam and things like that. But I do think also was interesting, you know, his way going out, you know Psalm's nineteen one that talks about the firmament and that just you know, when you look at at a face value, why would a guy who you know was a big part of outer space, why would he put

that on there? Probably because towards the end that was his way of of trying to at least drop a clue to mankind to kind of figure out the scam. Yeah, well, no, great, I've been a little ideas more that I thought about, looking an experiment, idea how it can prove

it's no curvature. I want to hate your faults on it. Sure, although if it's possible, well, if you to get like a really flat piece of line into like some wearing Texas rye which at least notes that fivest place in the US or in the world, if you would get along enough road, right let's call it two kilometers, try and find, like you know, get some drums of cable or some rope or something like that and

tie it to the back of two cars. Like if you were to then drive far enough where there's pure tension on that rope, if that's even possible. Then a distance of two kilometers, there should be thirty centimeters of curvature. Right, So if you were to measure each at each end of the rope and then in the middle of the rope, it should be thirty centimeters less than the end of each rope, right, that's obviously. But if it was flat, then the same distance would remain all the way through.

Right. But then I don't think, like, is that is the logistics of that even possible or you know, can you even get tension on something that long? But yeah, it was just just a cool idea I've thought about that could potentially prove. Yeah, that's interesting, e that's something. Yeah, obviously the logistics would be difficult, but just I find it something perfectly, But that's an interesting thought. That's that's the type of out of

the box thinking that we should have as humans. Not just like you said, go on full circle back to the education system where you memorize and regurgitate. These are the things that people should be trying to think of to be creative, to experiment for themselves, Like whoever came up with the impossible rice experiment and these type of things. No, definitely, Yeah, we do need to particularly think about these things. And I think the more you look

into this stuff, you do develop a sense and a skill. Really critical thinking skills do increase. And you know you do think it's on the book, George, and I definitely agree to that. Well, listen, it's been an amazing ninety minutes. And again for as young as you are, I'm amazed with all the thoughts and things that you brought up today, and I'm grateful for your time. I know it's for folks listening, it's like one thirty in the morning for Brandon. So I'm very thankful for your time.

And I do certainly want to give you the last few minutes to say whatever you would like. Yeah, for sure, but it's got you go very fast. Every every guest just say that. Yeah, I could talk for outs about this, George, you know, because like I said, I've not really talked to anyone about this in person. So to get everything out that's inside your mind, you know, you could be talking for days.

But yeah, just one thing I want to say that I've not really heard anyone say in the outro is if you are coming to well, I mean, if you're one hundred and twelve episodes in right now, I'm assuming you should be converted. You know, you should you should be you know, you should have the flatter belite. But if you've just stumbled on this, as you know, any first episodes whatever, just don't be scared.

You know, it is a very daunting thing at first. You know, you get quite anxious and depressed and things like that, but you think your whole life has changed. Don't get me wrong, it is life changing at first, but like I said, it's been seven years for me now and you know, objective reality is still the same and it does get better.

So yeah, hanging there, it will be a rough few weeks for you, but just just yeah, just just know that everything's going to be okay, and there's a higher source out there that's that's guiding you, and that's the reason probably why you have come to this truth. But yeah, that's that's my little bit of advice for you is just just don't worry. Everything

will be all right. There you go. Really well said, and again, thanks for your time, and God bless you and your family and best of luck with your You said you had a daughter on the way in March. That's correct. Yeah, that's that's awesome. Well God bless you guys, and be safe. I know the line of work you're in can be dangerous, so take care of yourself and don't be a stranger. And just

thank you so much for all the information you shared today. I know it's going to resonate with a lot of folks, and we'll have as always, we'll have Brandon's email in the show notes, so if you'd like to reach out to him, feel free to do so, and we'll have all the other links as well. So thanks again for your time, and thank you to all the listeners. And that's it for today, folks. For Brandon, I'm George. Everybody, have a great rest of your week and until

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