The following presentation is Del Marvis Studios Production. Welcome back to you with seekers from around the world. It's time for another edition of the flat Earth Files. I hope this podcast finds you well as we recorded this Thursday night, October nineteenth, seven pm Eastern time, and we have a very great guest standing by. Her name is Paula from Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Before we bring her on, just a couple quick reminders, please do stop by
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dot com. Let's go ahead and bring on our special guests this evening, and her name is Paula. Paula, how are you doing tonight? Good? Thank you, George. I'm really excited to be on your podcast. I discovered you last I think it was February, and I couldn't stop listening to it. And I've read that a few times people saying that, So thank you so much, absolutely, and thank you for being a part of
the podcast. And without the listeners, there is no podcast. So a big tip of the add to everyone, including yourself, always volunteered to come on and share a little bit about themselves, and why don't we go ahead and kick things off and you can introduce yourself to the listeners. Okay, I am from Alberta, Canada. I am fifty one years old. I grew up in a Christian home. I got saved when I was about four years old and I still remember it well at that moment. I've been married
for twenty four years. We have two daughters who are both in university aka indoctrination Institute right now. My training is I have a Bachelor Religious Education degree from a Christian college, but I actually work in a public school doing the literacy program. Well that's great, you know what, It's great to have a good hearted, loving Christians in the public school community. We need more
people who were pro life, pro God within the system. And yeah, absolutely, one hundred percent, And I guess we should start by talking a little bit about By the way, the fact that you can remember going back to four years old is amazing to me. I have a hard time anything like before seven, really, and it's amazing that you're actually able to remember the day that you were saved when you were four years old. I do. Actually, my mom was a very very strong Christian and she told me
I needed to accept the Lord as my savior. She explained the cross and what it meant and how Jesus died on the Cross from my sins, and I remember being I was a very strong will child, and I remember running around the house for maybe an hour and I just was like nope, nope, nope. And then finally the Lord was working like so strong in my heart and then I just went after her. I said, okay, I'm ready, and then I asked Jesus into my heart and it was very real
and I still remember it so thank thank the Lord. I'm just so thankful. Yeah, that's amazing, And congratulations on your children and university. Sounds like a wonderful family. My question I always like to start it with, is kind of your journey to the truth, but a little twist to it because I get different answers on this. Did you always notice something a little different? Because I noticed a lot of people who maybe wake up earlier in
life that they always notice things and they question things more often. Was that your journey or were you like me who woke up a little later in life. I think like my mom was always very awake, and I think like she introduced me, like when I was a teenager to text Mars. I don't know if you know him one hundred percent. I have played him on my classic audio on the fact on her many times. So she was reading his Illuminati book back when it first came out, and she was talking about
that, And so I was always and I always questioned. I didn't really know anything about the Flatters. I'd never heard about it. And I'll tell you that story in a minute. But I was always just questioning things. And like I said, I was very strong willed, so I didn't really go along with everything as some other people do. So and like I said, my mom was a huge influence in my life. She was just such a great Christian and she lived her faith like her Bible was almost like torn
apart from youth. Sure, like you know, it was just like she amplified what it was to be a Christian and so, yeah, so she would talk about things like the Illuminati and that kind of thing. And then early, like maybe five years after the nine to eleven, I started researching about that and then yeah, it's just sort of different. And then when my kids were little, i'd make them watch Disney conspiracy theories instead of Disney.
They weren't allowed to act. Really, that's interesting why kids say they're trauma trauma sized, because that would make them watch like how Disney is part of the Luminati. And I know that sounds harsh, but like my kids actually grew up knowing quite a bit like about what was really going on in the music industry. And yeah, I think they watched this whole of maybe two Disney movies. But and I don't regret that. But some people think
that's crazy because Disney is such a part of most kids' lives. But yeah, so that is really interesting. Uh, we did a call and show last night on the other podcast, and we had a listener he was kind of young. He was twenty two years old and he was new to waking up and it was kind of traumatic to him, and it can be that way to a lot of people, to have your world turned upside down.
So and I get a lot of people asking that. I actually had an email today asking there was any children's books kind of truth or children's books. And there's a flat Earth guy. I'll try to put it in the description.
He has a seven book series on flat Earth for children. But I think what you're doing is good because I do think in retrospect, and I've been thinking about this a lot lately, when somebody does kind of wake up, I don't think it's as traumatic as of going from completely being asleep and believing everything the government says to having your world turned upside down. And there
have been so many people who have done wonderful things exposing Disney. Bill Cooper did a wonderful not a podcast but a radio show when he did his Hour of the Time exposing the Lion King and the true story behind that. So that's very interesting. Was it random videos that you would find or was there a conspiracy series on them? You know, back in the day that was like early two thousand. My kids were born like two thousand and one and two. The treet you could find a lot of things on YouTube, oh
for sure. And so that's mostly as I've heard from other people talkholed. This a lot that's been hidden now most of them, so you really have to date. But back then you could just go from one clip to the next, and so it's a lot easier to find information. So yeah, there wasn't really I just would search different areas of things that I was interested in, and then I'd show my hits and you know, just I wanted them to be aware, even at a young age, like what what it
was all about. That's really well done and that's something that a lot of parents struggle with. That's another common email I get is especially the holidays, right, people are more you know, going through our podcast catalog, we've had guests on who have talked about the mixture of paganism into Christian holidays, which goes back to the Council of Nicea, the first Council of Nicea back in the fourth century. I think it was like three twenty two, three
twenty five, something like that. And when people find out about you know, the Holly Tree and what's behind that in Hollywood, and you know the Book of Jeremiah does kind of talk about bringing trees in your house and adorning it with silver and gold. It's tough. And for some people it's not tough. They say, hey, that's just what we believe in and we have strong convictions. But also as just a father and like some of my fondest memories, I lost my dad four years ago and is Christmas morning at
every you know, our Christmas was the same every year. It's where we were a traditional family. And for people to take their traditions and kind of toss them to the wayside can be not to underscore, but for some folks it's a traumatic experience, absolutely. And that's the Christmas thing I really struggled with because my kids love Christmas and so we have always celebrated it. As
I know, it wasn't the day of Jesus birthday. I know he was probably born in October September October, right, But we have no thing of Santa Claus. We never have, and we we always read the Christmas Story on Sieve. So I know that's something I've really we've struggled with it as well. But it's just like we have to signed up to this point not to not to stop celebrating seriousness. So yeah, I know exactly what you need. Yeah, it's it's it's a big deal. And again that is
part of the matrix that they've included. And again, if you do it the way you do that's you know, make sure you put Jesus first, right exactly, Yes, yeah, one hundred percent. Before we skip forward, I wanted to let the listeners know text Mars. I will put some links in the show description for you guys. He was one of the first guys to really come out and say that the Oklahoma City bombing was planned and carried out by the government. He was a deep dive into Hillary Clinton and
the Trilateral Commission, the Builder Berger's, the CFR. He was really out of his time. I think he passed right before COVID, like November twenty nineteen. But he's brilliant. I will put some links in the show description.
So as you're you did mention that you did come across nine to eleven in your journey as well, right, yes, yes, for sure, And that was kind of my you know, I knew something was up with that, and there's so much new stuff on that coming out too, so things I hadn't even considered with you know, the direct energy weapons and all that. So it's just a it's constantly changing, like there's just so much. But yeah, that my journey to flat Earth is interesting. Do you
want me to tell Yeah, please go right ahead. Okay. So it was like probably, I know, I can't remember who was twenty twenty or twenty twenty one. I was just in the kitchen. My daughter was there talking to my husband, and she just said something about I was just kind of listening to their conversation and she said something about flat Earth and I said, I said, what do you mean, Like, what's flat Earth? And she said, oh, some people, she said it in a kind
of a mocking way, oh some people think the Earth is flat. And I said, oh really, and then she's like yeah, and then they were kind of just making fun of it. And so anyway, I saw I jumped on the internet and I spent I'm serious, probably three full days. I can't look like I went down the rabbit hole, as she say. And I started listening to Rob skip up that he was the first one
that I found, and it was so interesting I just I couldn't. I was just like, oh, my goodness, this is amazing, and then Eric Dubey mark sergeant of course, and I by by the end of the weekend, I was like, well, of course, of course it is everything that I had questioned, Like I believe the Bible is mostly literal, like not mostly figuring in of course there are things that are figurative in revelation
and things that, but most of it I believe it's literal. And I've always been that way, like the Bible as one hundred percent God's word and it's truth, like it's for us, and so all all these it just clicked. It was like, of course this yeah, Like so I didn't even have any I wasn't incredulous really, I was just thinking, yeah, this all makes sense now. Everything just clicked, and it was pretty amazing actually, because when I read the Bible now, like I'm like, yeah,
when it says God came down, he actually did. Like he came down. He didn't come out of nowhere from all these you know, he's right there, like he's he's right above us. And it was just amazing. And so I kind of put it on the back burner for the next couple of years that because COVID hit, you know, it had just hit or was you know, we were just and that became my focus for two years. Basically, I uh, I knew within two days it was a
bioweapon. I I work in the public system, so they were doing the masking, the you know, the whole that whole thing, and so yeah, anyway, that was my first initial journey to flatter it. That's amazing. I want to backtrack for a hair before we get back into end of Well, let me ask you this first. Do you think you would have been willing to look into flat Earth if you hadn't gone through all the other conspiracies? First? Yes, because of scripture? Absolutely. Okay, Yeah,
that's good. That's a kudos to you, because I'm not sure if I would have taken the time. Yeah, just because I don't know if I would have taken the time to look into it, is what I'm saying, Right, for me, perotionally, I'm like flat Earth or whatever. But but yeah, when it was presented to me at that point my journey, I was like, well, everything else seems like it's a lie,
so maybe it is. Yees right exactly, And I know, and I don't know one hundred percent sure that I wouldn't but I believe I wouldn't be because I just, yeah, I when you look at scripture once you see it, like when it makes scripture come alive, it's it's just it's everywhere.
It's everywhere, like now I'm seeing it, and like I wouldn't have you know, you just kind of passed by scripture sometimes you don't really look at it closely, and then it's like now, like for instance, on Thanksgiving, our pasture the pastor rent out of some one hundred and four and beautiful song, but it's there's like hole, there's versions in there about established there is you know, like it's fixed, like and before you just sort
of go over those verses you don't really think about it. And now I'm like, yeah, it's it is. It's just so it just makes scripture come alive. That's what I've found. It sure does. And you know, it's another thing I've been thinking about recently is that one of the reasons the flat Earth has taken off worldwide, especially amongst those who a very religion,
I mean, the tour. Much of what we refer to is in Genesis when we're talking about when we connect flat Earth to the Bible and of course, the Torah is in you know, it's in Muslim, it's in Judaism, it's you know, the first five books of the Bible are most in many other religions around the world. So it is something that people around the world can see if they take the time to kind of look into it.
Would you agree with that absolutely? Yes, one hundred percent. And going back to COVID for a minute, because that is something near and dear to my heart. I had a radio show and that was going on, and it was just wait, what you mentioned it was a bioweapon. Do you think it the COVID itself was a bioweapon or do you think the vaccine was a bioweapon? Or do do you think it was both? Or what was your thoughts on that? Well? I think that it was a regular
coronavirus which had been around for ever. Yes, I think they did take it and they did the gain of function research in a lab and then I don't know if if it was released on purpose or not. But the the event tool one that took place in New York in twenty nineteen, in November or October, I think it was October. It was a simulation exercise for the release of a virus. I think they always tell you what they're going to do ahead of time. I think that was they were getting ready to
release something. And I think that the obviously the vaccine is a bioweapon as well. So people say, you've heard you've probably heard this. The vaccine wasn't created for COVID. COVID was created for the vaccine, right that, So, yeah, I think it was. I think it's both. Yeah, that is something that I've wrestled with as well. If part of me thinks it was the cold and they manipulated and when people got to the hospital, of course they put them on rem dezevir and the intubators, which was
a death sentence to get their numbers up. But the JAB was always the end game in my opinion, and that you were talking about new information always coming out about nine to eleven. Even recently, there was an article that came out just yesterday that in mainstream media that settled by the way, both the MRK and Fizer vaccine had billions of particles of this, that and the other thing. But again they released it yesterday. Is anybody focused on vaccines
right now, No, because they're distracted. It's always that they'll disclose it. It's just they do a fantastic job of oh, look over here at Israel and Palestine, and meanwhile, you know, everything else is going on,
nobody's paying attention. Well, it's interesting here in Canada they are pushing the I don't watch mainstream news at all, like I haven't for three years, but I was at my aunt's the other night and she had the TV on on mainstream news, and they were they did it like two twice, like they did a whole story, and then they you know, half an hour went by and at the end of the news cycle they did it again. Get your vaccine, get your vaccine, get you They did a whole
So they're really pushing it in Canada. Our dictator here is he's working for Klaus Schwap so he's got to get his you know, pat on the head every now and then. So, yeah, they are pushing it here and I'm a little I'm hoping they don't mandate again like that's been like do you want me to get into that a little bit about yeah? Please? Okay. So September twenty twenty one, I have two daughters in university. I had been calling the whole summer different they go to a different university. My
youngest was just starting in another university in British Columbia. My oldest was in her third year at at it. I won't say which one, but so I had been calling all summer, are you going to mandate? A going to mandate? And he kept saying no, no, no, So we get Finally we got an email at the end of August that they were mandating and you weren't you were You weren't going to be able to be in the university if he could not, if you didn't get it. So I my
sister helped me. We did upnotices a liability for both universities and I sent registered mail notices a liability. Are you familiar with them? Okay? So basically it's just it's like can notice that if something, if they forced something and then something happened, it's on them. They're responsible for it exactly. And in BC, where my daughter my youngest goes, the notice of the liability is actually considered a legal document, where as it's not in Alberta.
So I sent to the president of the university, the vice president, the board of governors, and the secretariat I sent registered mail notices of liability, and within four days I got a call on my cell from the vice president of students or resin and he said, don't worry, your daughter doesn't have to take it. She'll be okay, we'll take care of her. So I was so thankful. I praise God for that. And she's in her third year of engineering there and still hasn't had to to take it. That's
amazing. Yeah, and so and then my oldest she waited till the last day in November of twenty twenty one, and she got an email. She was in her third year, she was almost she's going to be done her English degree now she's finishing her teaching degree this year, like in April, she'll be finished. And she got an email saying that if you don't get the jab by Monday, you're out. You're done. Wow. And so she and I this is interesting because I sent Norris's a liability to her university
and with registered mail, it's it's supposed to be guaranteed. That's why you paid the eight bucks to try out the same thing. President, vice president, Board of governors, and the secretariat. And then I never heard anything. I kept waiting and waiting, and then finally I watched the post office and they traced them for me. And she's the lady's like, this is weird. She said, all four packages went missing. As soon as it got to the first place in Calgary. They all went missing. There's no
record of them. I said, well, how is that possible? She said, I've never seen that before. So I said to the postmistress, I said, okay, I'm doing this again. So I took the time I had to print them all off. It's quite a bit of work because I sent a personal letter with each one. And anyway, so that time, she said, I will guarantee that these will get there. And so I did get them there, and I called the vice or the president's office.
His secretary answered, and I said, did you get them? She said, yes, we did, and I said so she and basically they didn't care. They couldn't have cared least, and so yeah, and so my oldest got her. She had she got two shots and it was it was very and she said, Mom, I've wanted to be a teacher since I was in fifth grade, in which she did, and she worked. Both girls work so hard to get through you know, get honors in school,
and that was their dream, right, they're both following. And so, yeah, my oldest got two shots and that's all she's had and we're hoping that, you know, she won't ever get another one. But she's still in a very woke state right now, like she going to this is her fifth year, and teaching is probably the most woke of all the I'm thinking, oh, sure. The Teachers Union is in the in the United
States is literally the strongest union in the country. Yes, and they push like one of her classes last semester, like for teaching to greet is how to teach kids to become transgender, Like that's oh, that's still yeah. So she got her two shots and I was pretty heartbroken, but I'm just I had to commit it to the Lord and trust him. And we prayed for my husband and I prayed for our kids all the time, like,
uh, we just pray that God will bring them back. They did profess to be saved when they were little, and they grew up with a lot of scripture and like they so I believe they know, you know, but not to the COVID things. So that was so then I spent I just spent hours researching and being in meetings and going on, you know, different things online and through that whole time. And I was researching the vaccine. I called Pfizer twice and asked them where I could find their long term studies.
Like I called head office for Pfiser in Canada and I said, could you point me in the direction of where I can find on your website the long term studies that you did for this vaccine At nine View they didn't have any, but I was just trying to, you know, And then the lady she's like, what are you talking about. We're in the middle of the child. They won't be completed until twenty twenty three. So I said, so, basically, you're rolling out a product that has had no long
term studies. And she said, yeah, so unbelievable. You know, the very first sentence of the Nuremberg Code says the voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential, and then it goes on to talk about free choice without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, dress and coercion, which is I mean that coercion is the exact definition of you take
this vaccine or you're kicked out of school. I mean that is the direct and I'm so thankful for you to bringing this up because this is near and dear to my heart, and it upsets me that we have allowed them, just like we allowed the JFK assassins and the nine to eleven perpetrators. We just move on to the next thing. Since then, it's been are you Ukraine, Russia or are you now Israel Palestine? And COVID is just behind
us. It is what it is. We'll just move on, even though they closed our churches and made people get this experimental vaccine like you said, which is still in the experimental stage, where we're just going to move on from that. And that's what just it boales me to no extent. It just makes me so mad, it does. And they're not giving informed consent.
Like I don't know if you watch Delbate Tree at all. I know exactly who he is, and I watched him occasionally when I can yep, yep, yeah, he I mean that like the Informed Consent Action Network. I mean he is huge in like you know on all that you have to get people in informed consent with any medication you're supposed to and they just bypassed
that completely. So absolutely. And I remember back in twenty one, twenty twenty one, all the videos people asking for the ingredient lists, and there was even some with the nurse or the Walmart or Walgreens person would open up the box and it would just be a blank piece of paper exactly. No, that was common. So yeah, it's yeah. Imagine walking into a party someone handing you a cup and say drink that, and you're like, what is it? Oh, don't worry about to drink it, and so
I'm not going to drink it if I don't know what it is. But people were just rolled up their sleeve and took whatever it was. I really really wish we would have done a better job of standing shoulder to shoulder and no matter our race, political background, or religious background, because we continue to allow them to divide and conquer us. Well, it's interesting. I was, I was going to a lot of the rallies and when they were like downtown, you know, Calgary, and I would It's just amazing when
you're with that many people that are on the same page. It's touch an awesome feeling to be walking the streets with people that know what's going on and yeah, so that we don't really have many going on right now. Yes,
I think people are kind of complacent right now. And this is actually I think it's even more important now that people stand up because the next thing will be the Central Bank digital currencies that they're going to roll out, and you know, they want to do it with cash, so that everything that we do will be controlled. And this isn't conspiracy theory, so it's happening,
so yep. And they will track your every transaction, so even the little things like when they say if you have X amount of dollars on eBay that you sell you have to claim that. You won't even be able to hide through that anymore. Every single thing will be tracked. And I do believe after that they will roll out the social credit score. And I've already
been personally affected. I got kicked off PayPal and you know other things like that where I'm not able to conduct transactions because of my beliefs, and then people turn around and tell me, hey, man, you live in America. You got the friend. No, it's that is a piece of paper where it should be an agreement between the government and the people, but only one side actually adheres to it, that the government doesn't care about the country.
Actually no, and that's with with our dictator. They've come out again and said that they they can have control of people's bank accounts again as he did during the Freedom convoy. So we have a government very eager to implement communism fully. Are you aware of past Archer, the one that did the get out video? Was he was he the guy from Poland the minister. Yeah, yeah, they arrested him. I've been to his church a couple
of times, and like he had some things rallies and stuf. Uh, but he is I still love watching that video because it's just so uh like he actually stood up to them and it was pretty amazing. Yeah, I really wish we would have seen some of that. We saw that in Idaho. People stand up to it in Moscow, Idaho, and then of course the police came up and said, sorry, we're just doing our job, and then they would arrest the pastor and haul them off, which is why
we're in the situation we are. People have to if if you say that you know you're sworn into bold the constitution, then do it. Don't answer blindly to politicians. Yes, exactly, It's interesting working in the public system because I was actually shocked by how many people, like most people in the system, took the job and I was wanted. But the thing is, like I was one of the ones that Dan. There is a couple of other ones in my school. But when we were we were told we had
to take it or test every well twice a week. We were forced to do the PCR test and then send in our results. It's interesting because I wrote a letter to the head office for my school division, and I only used like reliable sources like VG access and the CDC, like the THEARS. I used the Constitution in my letter and as to why it's illegal to what
they were doing. And I had one of the head guys whom the school division come to my school to see me, like I had to meet with him in the boardroom and he's like, that's quite the letter you sent, and I'm like, well, I said I'm not going to keep testing. I put that in my letter as well. I said I'm not going to keep testing till the end of June because of the ethlene oxide on the swabs.
And so he said, well, I have heard that they're going to drop the mandates and they actually did within two weeks, so I ended up staying. But what was interesting is the accidentally from head office and told an email to all of us that were not that had not taken it, and it turned out in the whole it's a huge school division, but that there was eighty four of us that hadn't taken it. So they were supposed to
do buying carbon copy that they didn't. They forgot at one letter, so we found out that there was eighty four of us that hadn't that hadn't taken it. So that was that was interesting as well. What percent would you if you had to guess what percent of all the teachers, would you say that was probably ten? Wow, I'm getting ten fifteen, I'm not sure exactly how many are. And this was also support staff, so teach your
support staff, like everybody, gotcha? Gotcha? Gotcha? Yeah? That was there any people in leadership like district superintendents, et cetera that were part of standing up against this or were most of the people in those positions of power more worried about their paycheck than standing up for you guys. I would say that would be the case that yeah, they were Alberta. I have to be careful because like I don't want to speak to something I don't like.
No, yeah, for sure, just talk about what you feel comfortable, for sure. Yeah. Everything that I like. Doctor Willie Mackis is he worked for Alberta Health and he said they are extremely corrupt. It's just put that way. So I think that they basically took over the province and it was our premier was no longer really leading the province during that time,
so we were being run by the bureaucracy of the health care system. That's interesting to me because I'm very familiar with Canada going back to even to the eighties, where Calgary was kind of a cowboy city, right they have the Calgary Stampede and yeah, and they still do yees. Yeah. But would you say, like many other states, you know, or cities in our country, have you seen just a huge shift from conservative you know, beliefs
to this whole new Wok agenda in the last twenty years or so. Absolutely, Calgary this last election went, it was always conservative and Edmonton was always like liberal or more NDP right, So this last election it was almost like neck and neck in Calgary, which it's yeah, over the last twenty years, it's gone from very conservative to now it's barely you can barely, you know, eke out a conservative majority. So yes, for sure. You
know, I didn't realize growing up. I figured Canada and US were just kind of the same, just with a border until many ago when I interviewed an author up there. We're still friends today, and he's like, yeah, we don't have a First Amendment where we're not allowed to just openly say everything that we believe, and there's a lot of people who don't know that.
I know, it's a lot different than than the States. I think Canada has always been known as a very friendly, free country, and up until honestly the last five years, I feel like it has been, but just seeing how it's changed in the last it's so it's very hard to watch. I try to and I'm not saying this to be pious. I just I really feel like we need to pray for our leaders, because the Bible talks will, you know, praying for those in authority, and I sometimes
want to just screen, like in anger or whatever. But I feel like the more I guess beneficial thing is to pray for our leaders, that God will turn their hearts toward him. How was it for you as a Christian to stand by and watch these pastors get arrested by local police and being harassed by the RCMP. It was hard to watch and it is still like. I went to see the premiure the opening of Church under Fire. That's Rebel
News. Rebel News is probably the only one of the only news stations in Canada that covers kinds of things, and they did a documentary called Church under Fire. Have you seen that one? I'm not sure. I had I know Rebel News when they they did a fantastic story on January sixth, but I'm not sure I've watched Church on Fire, True Underfire Church and it's a story of several pastors that were arrested during maybe put it in the in the
I just found it. I'll put it in the show links. Okay, Yeah, that's so that's a definitely must see and it talks it shows how what happened. It's not every pastor that got arrested, but just it's the story of several that what happened and how they responded. And it's a really good overview of kind of like what the church was under and I you know, the Bible talks about persecution. There's some countries around the world that are
just going through terrible persecution for being a Christian. So I don't feel like we should be exempt. I mean, it's part of being a Christian, It's part of like suffering for the Lord is part of being a Christian. So but yeah, Canada wasn't. We weren't one of those countries before, you know, so that it is heartbreaking to see that. Yeah, it really was. By the way, just a fact check to myself, that
Rebel News story wasn't January sixth. They it was the story that where they blew open the story about Michigan governor Governor Whitmer, that whole thing that the FBI concocted, It was really just a setup. That was the big story from Rebel News. I'll put that in there, and I'll also put the link to Church under Fire. Canada's were on Christianity. Yes, thanks, Yeah, and I want to I want to look at that one you were talking about. I haven't I haven't seen that. Yeah, that that whole
thing smelled from day one. And then Revelus it's such a great story. It was July twenty first, twenty twenty one, and they exposed the whole thing about how it was just to set up exactly like January sixth. Oh wow, okay, I'm going to look into that. Yeah for sure. So first I commend you for your conviction. I could do everyone who Again, I believe in freedom of choice, So if somebody wanted it, that's
fine that that was their choice. But to the people who were willing to risk everything and stand up against it, I will always have the utmost admiration for those people like yourself. Yeah, it was for me. It was just like no, absolutely not. So yeah. Yeah. The struggles real. You know, they are obviously, like the movie says, the attack on Christianity, and then on top of that you become a flat earther. Yeah, I know, and that I don't. It's just it's amazing.
I like I said, when I'm studying the Bible now and if can I get into that part of it? Yeah? Okay. So you always ask what were the how do you say it, gold stars or what things? Yeah? What what is your your silver bullets? Silver bullet that's it? Okay, Well the first one is the Bible like one hundred percent. It's
everywhere. Genesis, Exodus, Deuteronomy, for Samuel, Joe, songs, Idea, jmid Jewel and one of the things I wanted to touch on, like I've been studying about the King James and like the Bible since I was like twelve years old. I was reading at that point. Doctor david otis his books. I don't know if you're familiar with him. What was his name again, Doctor david otis Fuller you olt ere sounds familiar. I have to look him up. He's written like very in depth and I started.
I wrote it him when I was twelve and I about the King James and he wrote me back. And his books now we've moved a lot since I was like, so I don't I can't find his books in my library, so I think I might have either lent them out, but I went on eBay or Amazon, I can't remember, but they're out of print, but you can get used copies, but they're over one hundred dollars for his books. Now. They are extensive on the King James and the history and why
there is a big difference. So I just want to give, like, if somebody is interested, this is really interesting. If you go into Biblegateway dot com and that's where you can read the Bible online in all these different versions. Right, So type in the search bar firmament, and you'll notice that there's there's not one reference to firmament. I tried the NIV, that ESB, the New Living Translation, New Life version, the NAESB, there's zero. Yep. Sorry, didn't find any results for your search. Now
go to the King James. There's fifteen. Yep, there's fifteen results. So and the other like one for the in the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth Genesis one one. All the other versions say heavens. And I looked last night. I was searching heaven versus heavens in the Bible.
And when you hear the word heavens, it if even just the word itself, it's like a vast expanse of you know, forever, like as they say space, it is right right, But when the word heaven is very specific, and so I think it's very important, like firmament has been removed from all the new versions, and that's like the foundation of like because my husband and I talked, I asked him about that and he said,
well, this ferment. The firmament is no longer just doesn't exist. And I'm like, well, where does it say that in the Bible, and he won't answer me. Yeah, so I just think that's it's really like I used the King James because not only I believe it's completely acrid, because it's taken from the Texas Receptis, which is a Greek. The Greek manuscripts and that were like there was over five thousand, and people always say, well they didn't have the latest they didn't, I mean the oldest manuscripts.
The reason the manuscripts that they found in Alexandria were complete was because they weren't being used because they weren't considered worthy. So it's not always they were using them all the time to and they would just wear out eventually, but they would keep translating. And the King James was they were taken from the most trustworthy text, the Texas Receptist. Right. That's awesome, you know what. I went on eBay speaking of old books, and I won an auction
just today of the Bible Dictionary, William Smith's from eighteen eighty four. Wow. Yeah, and only with shipping everything, I paid less than thirty dollars, so I think, Yeah, there's a lot right now on eBay. There's a lot of Bible dictionaries and cyclopedias. I had a listener email me a week or two ago saying that they've gotten encyclopedia from I forget it was the thirties, forties or fifties, and I think they got it for less
than forty bucks. Wow. And the information from then to today is even you know, I put the video of nineteen fifty eight Encyclopedia Britannica showing the firmament is in as late as nineteen fifty eight in the encyclopedia really absolutely. It says it's I forget exactly what the numbers were, but it talks about how the firmament was thirteen thousand feet at X degrees, you know, sixty
or seventy degrees down there. I forget exactly what the numbers were, But I'll go back and try to find that video as well and put that in the show description. Yes, that's so interesting, and it's so interesting like that the new versions removed that word completely. Yeah, because I do think because people are waking up and they're scrambling, just like when YouTube came out. Everybody could go down and find nine to eleven conspiracies and flat earth and
everything else with no problem. Well, now A, they're hiding it, and B if you even mentioned vaccine. I was doing a live radio show and I used to do it through YouTube as well, so people could watch the radio show on YouTube, and I had it taken down midstream when we started talking about just boom, it was gone kill the stream. Oh wow, yeah, So they That tells me though, like if you're catching flak, you're problem over the target. Yes, exactly, that's so true.
Yeah, that's like the next one that was Antarctic. That was the next silver bullet. Just the way the treaty was signed. I just that was one of the things that really convinced me as well. And the new one I learned from your show was the rupus Nigra. How you say it? That black rock? Black rock? Yes, that was I went. I kind of did a deep dive into that or it was just unbelievable. It's
so amazing. So I want to ask you something. My husband said, there's like a difference between the magnetic north Pole and like there's another North pooler, so there's three, there's a magnetic north. There's a true north, and there's a grid north. Okay, yeah, that's the true north. But what can you explain that? So no, I gotta go. That's my old army days. True north is a direction of the Earth's surface towards
the place where the imaginary rotational axis of the Earth intersects the surface. But the magnetic north is to me the most reliable because you're getting an honest and what do you think about how powerful that magnet is. I'm here in Delaware, thousands of miles away from the Arctic Circle, and my compass that I've got a couple of compasses sitting right in front of me the point right to that thing. Wow. Yes, But the true north and then a grid
north is obviously you know, for maps, et cetera. Okay, that's one of his things. Like I've been trying to talk to my headspend about like just sort of you know, ponting seeds, I guess, but it's having none of it. So, but he's also the type he has, like his calendar is like from this here is like pictures of the Hubble space te telescope, and he's been into space. He goes to space weather space. Oh wow, space weather. Really, that's interesting. I didn't know
that that was the thing. I think it would. And so one of the things I want to encourage your listener is if you do have left ones that are not on board, Like I've tried everything from sarcasm to just I think it's better to just right right now, I'm just decided I'm going to leave it, and just I've just been praying about it. And that's because I did try it for like the last year or almost a year, I guess, But it's it's just one of those things. It's better not to
fight, I guess about you know what I mean. It's not worth like breaking up a marriage or oh for sure. And again it's not a salvation issue either, so it isn't. And if you just leave hints and bird crumbs, maybe eventually he will maybe, But if he's looking at space weather, maybe not. But yeah, the true north is more of a thing with the axis and the globe. And that's why we always talk about magnetic north because that is, in my opinion, what word north really is.
Because we're in flat Earth, we don't believe it in axis that's constantly shifting, right, Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so I meant to ask you earlier, and if you mentioned it, I apologize. Is there do you attend a church? Yes, we do. It's a small church, like
if everybody came on a Sunday, it'd probably be forty people. Oh wow, okay, so yeah, and they are like, it's funny because a few months back they had creation ministries come in and do presentation and it was fine, but at the end they asked, do you have any questions? And so I put up my hand and I said, so, how did the how did the space the people that went to the moon, how did
they get through the Van Allen Belt? And he said, he goes, they just they got through it. And I said, well, how come they haven't been this, you know, to the moon since oh they've gone several times to the moon. They've gone like eleven or twelve times. And I was like, oh okay, But he he was one hundred percent like a global little worth there so and even asking questions, he just like didn't
even engage in that. So but most of the people in our church, I would say ninety percent of them are not not that vexed, and they're not that they know what's going on as far as everything else of everything, yeah, that's good, yes, yes, and it's great that part of it's wonderful. That's awesome. That's good to hear. And again that's something a lot of people say. You know, we have folks like Pastor Odel, who you know, is not afraid to mission in his church, and
he did lose a couple of families, but he gained hundreds more. I think we have a pastor coming on next week as well. We'll see how he goes about presenting that. And it's again, it's not a salvation issue, so I don't have any heartburn either way. I think for me it would be weird because if I know something, I'd be up there every Sunday just dying to share it. But again, when I asked Pastor eard Law, I was like, how was it when you said that the first time?
You must have you know, just had nerves just trying to present this information. Wondered if everybody's going to stand up and leave. Oh, it's hard to like, there's such a there's such a people, don't. They just shut their mind off as soon as you talk about it. It's just like a non they will not engage. I wish we could just discuss it because it's so interesting and just to have a discussion. I started after I listened to him Pastor den Ohnal on your show. I started listening to him,
and he's really good, really enjoyed his messages. Yeah, he's a lot of fun to listen to. I listened to him probably once a week. He does tremendous work in that line with your husband. Is he a rabbit old guy too, Like, is he aware of nine to eleven and things like that? Yes, somewhat. He's more into eschatology, oh lot. Sure. He loves researching and times and different things like about that. So that's kind of his passion. And he loves the Lord so much.
That's awesome. That is the most important thing. And with everything like that's going on in the world, I'm sure he's got a lot. He's probably in that with all of his free time, Oh absolutely, and with what's happening in Israel. He just, yeah, that's kind of his he's consumed with that right now. And yeah, that ever since he became a Christian at eighteen or seventeen, he just couldn't wait for the Lord to come back.
He's just so excited, so I don't really think. I think I just say to him, well, you'll know in time, but y'all y'll know the truth. Yep, yeah, one hundred percent. And did we hit all your silver bullets? I'm sorry. And also like the obvious one into the ability to see too far. I've watched like the comonvex Earth recently. I watched that the couple's new movie like them. Oh yeah, the Fasookes. Yes, yes, I watched that one. The covex Earth is
really interesting. Have you seen that one? The one where they do all those experiments. I think it was Portugal and different places around the world. I think I've seen parts of it. I've had folks send me some clips. Yeah, that was real. Like so the ability to see too far, And I know Rob Skiva he did a lot of things with experiments with that as well, And yeah, those were my main one that that I had. That's really well done. And if you had thirty seconds in an
elevator with somebody, which which one would you offer them? It would depend who it was. Yeah, I would say Antarctic and yeah, if it was a Christian then possibly scripture. But like I have a really good friend who's one hundred percent against the flatter and so I just texted her the other day and I said, what are your thoughts on the flatter Earth? And because I hadn't talked to her about it directly, i'd heard from somebody else that she was And then she she said, oh, I've heard about people
talking about it. And then I said, well, I said, for me, the puzzle is, I just can't find anything in scripture about global eirth. And and then she just said, well, we'll have to ask the astronauts someday, felt loud, and I said, well, yeah, and then I said it again. I said, well, I just can't find anything in scripture. There's lots of scripture on the other side. But and then she wouldn't respond. So like, I'm trying to plant seeds where
I can. And even my daughter, my youngest, is in geological engineering, and so she actually watched part of the Lost History of the Platters and she thought it was interesting, but she's like, Mom, there's geodicy and
that, and physics proofs that the Earth is round. So I'm trying to argue with the third year engineering student in the physics and that's not my forte right, so i'd have to really get I guess some answers from another engineer that was a flatter Earth that how I could counteract some of her arguments for sure. And like for me, when I first started researching flat Earth, like, I never knew that Antarctica was the highest, you know, land in the world. I had no idea. I thought it was, you
know, somewhere in Asia or something. And then I remember watching one of the early videos when I first started waking up to flatter then it's like Antarctica is the highest and holds all the water in And I went straight to Google and sure enough, well what it Yeah, it's like eight thousand feet and I'm like, wow, it's okay, that makes sense, and all these little things when you find out about Captain Cook and how it took him three
and a half years and sixty thousand miles to circumference, well that doesn't make any sense because if you believe the globe theory, it's twenty five thousand miles around at its widest point. So you cut that at half at the bottom. Just an example, it shouldn't be more than twelve thirteen thousand miles. Oh wow, that's so interesting. And then of course, like you say,
you know, we're not allowed to go down there. We'll get arrested, we'll get right off by the navy, and that verse leave it some thombs where it talks about he said a compass, he said, a boundary. Oh, he has compassed the waters with until the day and night come to an end from Job twenty six ten. So like he's it's like I believe that it's talking about the Antarctic Circle Job twenty six y ten. He has the compass the water with bounds until the day and night come to an
end. It's a boundary. Yep. Yeah. On a globe, there's no boundaries. And again it's just sticking on a ball. And to think that like I'm in Delaware, I'm on the side of the earth. To me, to think that I'm standing sideways and our friends in Australia who see the same falling stars, they're not falling up, they're falling down. There's so many things, and again there's some answers obviously that we can't answer. But again I don't. I think that's very arrogant for us as humans to
assume that we have. We should have all the answers. There's some things we're never going to have the answers to. That's right, And that's the thing. Like God is God, and he is His thoughts are higher than our thoughts, His ways are higher than our ways. So we won't know everything until I think, even when we're in heaven, we're still going to
be learning for eternity a great one hundred percent. And knowledge is power, and that's one of the things that becoming a truth or is the things that you used to be interested in and kind of go by the wayside, Like for me it was sports and entertainment and such, and now I'm just constantly looking for knowledge. Yes, yeah, And I'm getting really a sense of urgency that, like I believe the Lord is coming soon, and so I'm trying. I really want every day to be with purpose and I'm really asking
the Lord for a direction. What I'm finding in my life like now is that I don't believe there's coincidences, Like I believe that God orchestrates things and just such a a beautiful way. And I think the more we follow the Lord, we see that and how he works a great and while again while flat Earth is not a salvation issue. I can prove to you through hundreds of emails from people who said that the through flatter that had brought them back
to God. Absolutely, because knowing that he's right there, he's right there, He's not off in some distant you know, somewhere in the middle of I don't know. It just it brings everything just so close and we know that the Lord is right there, and it's just such a comfort that he sees everything, he sees it all agreed. And again, if you're over the you're catching flag. You're over the target. And as much as we both as Christians and as flatter earther's catch flack, I do believe we're we're
most certainly over the target with our beliefs. Yes, exactly. I wanted to give a shut out too. There's a lady that does podcasting, Laura Lynn Tyler Thompson. She's Canadian. Do you know haven't we heard of her? I have not. Laura Lynn Tyler Thompson. Yes, her website is Laura Lynn dot tv. She's a strong Christian. But she had a guest on her show the other night. She has a really she has a lot of very good guests like doctor William mackis, doctor Peter McCullough. Yeah,
I know who he is. Yeah. So she had a past your named Robert Anthony, And I was going to write down his website, but I but you can go into bit shoot or Rumble and you can look up her conversation with Robert Anthony, and I think his website will be there. You can just But he did an awesome show the other night on on Babel.
It's called Babel and trans Humanism Why it's more relevant than ever, And he talks about how he believes that the technology back in the day, like during that time of Babel and Noah, was very advanced and they were messing with the gene pool. Then he this is on the side note, but he actually believes that dinosaurs were being made like the like he believes God created dinosaurs like the herbivores, right because Joe talks about these huge creatures with tales and
his theater and I believe those aren't referencing dinosaurs. That he believes that these creatures like the t rex, the carnivore, they were being created in like labs. And I was thinking, I wonder if, like with that movie series that was so oh Jurassic Park. Yes, I was thinking maybe that's based on like actual history, you know how they say the truth, the truth and in the media and truth in movie. That's right. So his show, like that show with him on her show was very interesting. I
just thought some of your listeners might want to look that up. And was that on her website or did you say that was on Rumble bit Shoot. Well, I always go to bit shoot or Rumble, but she should be on her website as well. I think most of her videos are always on there. But yeah, you can find it. It's Robert and then like I said, the name of it is Babbel and transhumanism. Why it's more relevant than ever and his name is Robert Anthony. But it's really he's got
some his website's pretty pretty awesome. And what is the her website again, Laura Laura Lynn dot TV. Oh okay, yeah, she's got some great, really great guests perfect. I will definitely check that one out. That is very interesting to me. And I do believe they they and that's the thing, you know, they talk about the Big Bang theory and evolution and cavemen, just about how dumb the people, you know, a couple thousand years ago, where I believe nothing could be further from the truth. I
believe that they knew how to use free energy. I think many of the big buildings and cathedrals were used to harness energy. I think we're being lied to about a whole lot of stuff. Absolutely, it's about control, because they know that if they can control us, and then they have all the power. So David Wiese talks about that a lot. Yes he does. Yeah, he hits the nail on the head for sure. Were there any other nuggets they had written down that we had we hadn't covered yet. I
think I've gone to everything in my notes. I'm pretty sure I'll probably remember stuff that. No. That's It's been so awesome, And I have such admiration with people of conviction I understand and the struggle of trying to share our beliefs with loved ones, and to many that is a big leap of faith, if you will, for some folks to look that far. But I do believe in due time, as many things are disclosed, that maybe they'll they'll say, well, if this is a lie, then maybe you know
the globe is a deception. As well. Yes, yeah, I think I think more and more people are waking up. And I honestly give credit a lot to your show. I've when I first came across your show, like I just found it was just the way you delivered it. And you're just so normal. Like I don't mean not to say that other people aren't normal, but it was just so easy to listen to and so interesting. Yeah, so thank you for all you do. I just believe God has
led you to do this. I think it's very important. Well, I appreciate it. But my wife might disagree with you with me being normal. I'm just kidding. Yeah, she listens to it. She'll get a laugh out of it. Yeah, for sure. And you know, I really really appreciate the kind words. It's a labor of love. When I found out about nine to eleven again, I kept blinders on until I retired from the military in twenty fifteen, and it was a big punch in the gut,
A huge punch in the gut to me. So I said, at some point, when the time is right, I did want to share my thoughts, and that's I'm not here to convince anyone of anything. I'm just here to tell people what I think my opinion, and at best, if we can get people to question what the guy on the television is telling you, then I think we've done something exactly. I agree with you one hundred percent, and of course above that and moreover, is spreading the word of
Jesus Christ absolutely by one percent. Agree. Well, this has been an amazing interview and I appreciate your time, and I do want to give you the final word if you'd like to close things out for us, Okay. I just want to encourage your listeners to trust in the Lord Jesus Christ. The Bible says that about committing your way onto him and he will direct your path. Trust in the Lord with all thine heart, lean not onto thine own understanding, in all thy ways, acknowledge Him, and he shall direct
thy path. And I want to encourage your listeners to stay in the world. Just get into the world. It's so exciting. It just it's even if you just read the psalms. Our lady's Bible study is doing the psalms right now, and it's just it's so encouraging, and it just gives you strength for each day and keep your eyes on the Lord. He sees everything
that's going on. There's no reason to fear. The Bible says, I think it's is it three hundred and sixty five times or something they say one for each day of the year, like fear not or something along those lines. So we don't need to fear. We need to trust the Lord during this time, and as we see things even escalate further, we just hold
on to the Lord. He's got us, He's with us, and even if we do go through persecution, just as Stephen in the New Testament that was stoned his face just with a glow and God was with him, and God will always be with us no matter what. Yeah, amen to that, and just know that we don't know what the future lies. It could get a little tougher than things we've seen in the past three years. Just stand talling your convictions, and like I say, if man's law crosses God's
law, make sure you choose God's law every time. Amen. Yes, thank you, Thank you, Paula. And it's been wonderful meeting you. God bless you and sounds like you've got a wonderful family. And tell them I said hello, and thanks for sharing your word to the folks around the world. Okay, thank you so much, George, thank you, and to all the listeners, thank you again for all your support. And Paula's email address will be in the show description if you'd like to reach out to
her. And we've got a lot of show notes that I'll be plugging in there and lots of videos for you to watch. And if you've never heard of text mars, well you'll be on board by the time you're done looking at the videos that I'm gonna plug into the show description. So God bless you all, keep your head on a swivel. And for Paula, I'm George. God bless you all. And until the next time, my friends, we will see you. I know it's been a struggle. I don't
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