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Well hi team i'm fitz kohler your very bossy fitness pro from fitzness.com and welcome to the fitzness show today i'll be i'm going to share an interview with you i i just completed it it's an interview i wish i didn't have to do my friend colin egglesfield who you may recognize from film and television. He was in All My Children. He's been on TV shows such as Melrose Place, The Client List.
He was in the Kate Hudson movie, Something Borrowed. He's had an extensive career in Hollywood, always playing the hunky guy because that's what he is. He's been, well, I'm going to let him tell you what his most significant modeling job was, but an incredible young man, only 51. He was on my show in 2021. We were discussing him training for the Chicago Marathon. He was on my, I interviewed this guy about 15 years ago as well.
He's someone who is so fit and so healthy that I've always taken a real interest in what he does and what he has to share. He's just a really wise guy too. And I don't mean wise guy, not a Weisenheimer. He's filled with wisdom and he actually does a lot of work right now in his career to help people and guide them with wellness retreats. And he has some books out. ColinEgglesfield.com is where you could be looking him up right now. But Colin was just diagnosed for the third time with cancer.
I just it's so upsetting. It's just so upsetting. You know, I, I pre my cancer diagnosis, there were like my dad and my grandparents and, and friends were diagnosed with cancer. But then I guess once I was diagnosed and I get this real compassion because I've been there so scary, it's so stressful. And now I have so many friends, my, my cancer comeback series books has expanded my horizons, my realm of friends with cancer.
And I'm grateful for those friends, but it's everywhere. And I don't know, I just, I... The other day I was on Instagram and I see Colin in a hospital gown and a hospital setting and he has incisions in his abdomen. And I just thought, what the hell is going on? And it's cancer. And so I reached out and I said, Colin, would you like to come on my show and share? And I knew he would because he's so open and he's so eager to share his experiences
to better others. and he was as open and honest as a person can be. So his first two cancer diagnoses were testicular cancer and this third was prostate cancer. Again, he's only 51. And what I find is that men aren't really comfortable talking about either type of cancer where women, golly, we're standing on the top of roofs saying, hey, everybody, look at me, I have breast cancer, and I only have one boob or this or that.
You know, women are so open discussing these difficult issues, and men, not so much. I mean, obviously, removing testicles or having radiation would come with some obvious, challenges to a man. And then removing your prostate also comes with some really. Difficult decision-making and possibly life-altering consequences. So I'm really grateful Colin agreed to come back on the Fitz in the show. And he just shared. He just shared.
And he's going to be okay. He's going to be okay, I think. I believe he's going to be okay. But tough stuff, but boy, is this a good listen. Cancer or no cancer, he's got a lot of really interesting, valuable pieces of wisdom to share. And I think we should all hear it. And if you know any men, that's right. If you are a person who knows a man, you should make that man listen. Because Colin's talking about the things men refuse to talk about.
And then if you are a woman who cares about men and would like to be knowledgeable about some of the experiences a man in your life may endure at the hands of testicular or prostate cancer, you should listen. It is so good. And again, I'm so grateful for his time and willingness to share. So here he is, Colin Egglesfield. Okay. How are you doing? I'm wonderful, thank you. How are you doing? I'm still a bit sore. Okay. But I am feeling better than I did yesterday.
I love that. I love that. So let's get right into it because I hate that you're going through it again. Let me just adjust my lighting here. Sure. uh yeah it's been a crazy past few weeks as i'm sure you can imagine. How's everything with your health? So I just, I think I'm four years out of treatment and five years in remission. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Excellent. Yeah. So I'm doing great.
So last time we talked was in 21 and you were telling me about having to deal with testicular cancer and marathon running. And now here we are. I was just on Instagram, and I saw your image, and I just about died inside. So what's going on, Colin? Yeah, it has been a, I would say, a very tumultuous, confusing. Scary, relieving past few weeks. I was diagnosed with testicular cancer back in 2006 when I was working on all my children and was getting, got radiation treatment.
And after my surgery and I was getting my checkups and then a year later, they found a tumor on the other side. And so they had to do another surgery. And after that, they told me that based on what the statistics are regarding testicular cancer coming back twice and the radiation that I received. And then after that, because I had my testicles removed, for lack of a better description, I had to be put on testosterone hormone replacement therapy. So I've been on that for the past 18 years.
The benefit to that is that most men, as they get older, their testosterone starts to level off. And most men, without them even knowing it, are chronically low on testosterone, which can affect mood, focus, sex drive, ambition, and. Testosterone also, though, can aggravate the prostate and accelerate inflammation and the acceleration of prostate cancer.
So my doctors told me back then that we need to just keep monitoring you to make sure that you're not getting too much testosterone and that you're doing your PSAs. So the benefit to all of this is that I've been getting my checkups. I got my PSA checked again last year and it was a little elevated. Normal PSAs are below four. Mine was high sixes. If you are in advanced stage, metastasized prostate cancer, it can go up to twenties.
Okay. So I wasn't like too far out of the norm, but it was still out of the norm. And so that's just a blood test, correct? That's just a blood test. Yep. And this is where I think everyone needs to just get this simple blood test done because it's non-invasive, really just doing a little blood test compared to some of these other exploratory biopsies and that sort of thing. It's a quick way for you to just kind of get a pulse on where you're at.
And mine was in that range and then uh or actually it was low sevens and i decided you know i'm just gonna wait maybe six months and get it tested again and got it tested again and it was high sixes so gone down from low sevens to high sixes but still outside the range so my urologist recommended a biopsy and i'm like come on what are you talking about like this it's like so close And he's like, look, we've got to look at the statistics and the data.
And I'm sure you're hearing a lot of what people are talking about online right now. Ivermectin, fenbenazole, and iodine, and all these. So many people are coming up or sharing their experiences of taking some of these medications and, you've obviously heard of a lot of this stuff, right? You know what? I have. I have some friends with ovarian cancer who are taking those things. One of them swears by it. She's stage four. She says cancer has regressed and she's doing great with the ivermectin.
Other word, I'm not even going to try combo. And then I have another friend who she's been dealing with stage four ovarian cancer too. And she's been on it and we really didn't get into her results. But yeah, it's a whole different world. I'm not, I'm not utterly familiar with them. Well, let's see what you have to say. Teach me, Colin. Yeah. So, you know, just my wanting to do my own research, because obviously now some doctor says we need to do a biopsy.
Now we're getting into, okay, this is pretty serious. And I realized that, you know, having gone through this whole cancer experience, you know, 15 years ago, I feel like It took me a while to heal and to move on, not just physically, but emotionally, mentally. And then for a while, I was just not wanting to even have to deal with this again. It took some time to think about it. I started talking to some other doctors, talked to my urologist from New York who did my surgeries.
And the consensus that I kept hearing was that most men die with prostate cancer rather than from it. Most men get diagnosed with prostate cancer in their late 60s, 70s, and 80s, and that there's ways to treat it where it's not the massive decision of getting a prostatectomy where they go in and remove it, you can get these radiation pellets that are put in there that, show a high degree of efficacy with shrinking the cancer tumors or whatever, and putting it into some remission for a while.
So I was looking over these different options, but they said, we can't know anything or what to do until you get this biopsy. And so finally it's, you know, all right, fine. I got to look at this and hit it straight on. So I went and got the biopsy.
And that's a pretty uncomfortable experience where they ram the probe up the rear end and they, with 12 clicks of this machine, it's like you can hear it every time it clicks and you're like, oh, so walking out of there, just a little, you know, sore. But after a week or two later, they came back and said that the Gleason score is what they use to determine the pattern and the size of the cancer cells that they find. And my Gleason score was...
Again, somewhat outside of the normal range on one side of my prostate. And so they recommended that most men in this situation are in their 60s, 70s. We'd say, you know what, we can do the radiation pellets and you should be fine. But they said, because you're 51, that if we do these pellets, first off, you've had radiation 15 years ago. So we don't recommend doing more radiation because that can cause scarring and complications later down the road.
And you'll probably get into your 70s or 80s and may have some more prostate issues with other cancer tumors coming up. So we recommend you just removing it right now. However, prostate removal, because your prostate sits right underneath your bladder, the urethra that goes from your bladder, it goes right through your prostate Really? Yes. Okay. Out through your unit, and that's when your urine goes through the prostate.
There's two sphincters on either side of the prostate before your pelvic floor. So there's essentially three stopgaps that control your urine flow. When they take your prostate out, those two sphincters get removed, and now you only have your pelvic floor to control your urine flow. Okay. Because most men don't really focus on doing Kegel exercises. Most men's pelvic floors are not, it's not tuned in to squeeze and control the urine flow. Okay.
So that's the rehab that I'm going through right now because I ended up doing the prostatectomy. Is learning how to control that urine flow. So after the surgery, after they take the prostate, they have to reconnect the plumbing. So they have to then put a catheter inside. So that was fun having that for the first five days and your collection bag on a walker.
And so it was full on. Thankfully, I had my girlfriend and a good friend of mine staying with me to be able to make sure that this is taken care of. And I'm telling you, when your girlfriend changes your urine bag for you, this is the kind of person that you want. And you know, that is a great life partner because I think health issues really can test relationships and can make you really realize who your true friends are and the people that really love you.
And this experience has really shown me who my real friends are. The outpouring of support has been amazing. But with the surgery, they use, it's called the Da Vinci machine, where they do six incisions laparoscopically across your stomach. One through your belly button, two on either side, and then one above. And they insert these cameras and this mechanical arm because the nerves that control your erection function cradle the prostate.
And so they have to go in and essentially scrape out all the prostate tissue and they've got to be careful not to nick any of these nerves because if they do, it can affect your ability to get an erection. Yeah, permanent damage. So with this machine, because it's robotically guided, they're able to be very precise and get as close to the nerve endings or nerves as possible. But there's still a little bit of prostate tissue around there. And so...
This is where the monitoring comes in and where you may hear, well, my uncle or my grandfather had prostate removal, but there is still possibility of the chance because there's still some tissue there that sometime down the road. So I've just got to continue to get my PSA checked. I'm doing my physical therapy for the Kegel exercises and the protocol for prostatectomy afterwards is every day I take a Cialis erectile function. Okay. It's like Viagra. Okay. And so on that every day.
And so just even having this conversation may sound, or, you know, just seem weird to be talking about urethras and penises and prostates and re-plumbing. But I think since I've been posting on social media, there's been a lot of outpouring and people asking questions Like, so my husband was just diagnosed or my uncle had this, or I'm speaking to a friend of mine because his father just got diagnosed with prostate cancer. So there's a lot of people with a lot of questions.
And so this is where I feel just even having these honest conversations about what it entails, what it's like. The emotional rollercoaster of, am I ever going to be able to have sex again? And my, the urine, you know, the incontinence and how long is that going to last? And so thankfully, I feel like each day I'm feeling a little stronger. I'm still even just, I'm almost three weeks. Thursday will be three weeks from my surgery and I'm still really sore.
Just hard to twist and move and cough but it's just taking each day one day at a time and and just i'm just more than anything grateful that that part is done and now i can focus on what i can do to get better and we will be right back are you looking for the perfect gift for a loved one battling cancer? The Cancer Comeback Series by Fitz Kohler offers hope, inspiration, and practical guidance with Your Healthy Cancer Comeback, My Noisy Cancer Comeback, and The Healthy Cancer Comeback Journal.
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You feel helpless because you can't really do anything really about it other than what I was doing was doing research, trying to talk to other doctors, and hearing about these other alternative ivermectin and some of the things. I asked my first urologist, and he was like, well, I don't know anything about that. And I said, well, have you ever heard of Dr. Joe Dispenza, any of these like...
Mindful energetic quantum healing modalities and he was like nope nope i mean i i'm sure there's stuff out there but i don't know what that is and i'm thinking you are a medical doctor. And this is what you you you treat prostate cancer yet you haven't even done any of you know i get you get trained in medical school a certain way, but why wouldn't you start exploring other things that are out there just to even know what's out there, you know?
Right. They should be able to at least tell you why it's terrible or why it's useless. Right. And that's why I didn't feel comfortable working with this doctor. And I fortunately was able to find another doctor through the City of Hope Hospital here in Phoenix, and they're great. And my doctor, he just came from the University of Iowa, and I graduated from the University of Iowa. So I thought it was a sign from the universe that, okay, this is my people.
And he was able to just really sit and answer my questions about some of these other alternative forms of medicine and healing. And he's like, look, Colin, there's a lot of different modalities out there. He said, they may very well... Help drink cancer cells in some people. And the problem is there's not enough of the statistical.
Sanctioned FDA regulated studies for us as doctors in the health professional industry to be able to recommend this stuff without the liability falling back on us for recommending things that have not been studied or proven to be effective. So I think more of these grassroots stories that you're hearing about people who are taking it and they're getting really good results, my hope is that it will cause some of these studies.
The problem is it costs billions of dollars to do these FDA-regulated studies. And who has that kind of money? The pharmaceutical companies. So the ivermectins which is a a drug that's used to kill parasites in horses and farm animals i don't know who the company is that makes that but i mean maybe they could sponsor the study in humans like this is where it's like my doctor was like we just need more studies done for us to be able to really make these educated decisions.
He said, but what we do know is based on what we see with you, and of course, there's always outliers, but with your prostate cancer, and we caught it early, he said, you've got about a five-year window. This is a slow-moving cancer, so you've got about five years, but the longer you wait, the chances are that these microscopic little cancer cells might escape out of your prostate and get into your liver or your kidneys or your brain.
And so I wanted to do something quickly about it. And so I took about. That was about a year where I was looking into... Oh, is that right? So you were diagnosed with prostate cancer a year ago? Yeah, in November of 2023. Wow. Okay. Okay. And so I actually did start working with an integrative health practitioner, and they recommended these detox, this detox protocol and coffee enemas. And basically, the benefit to this was I did a full blood panel.
And this is where it's amazing because most hospitals and doctors don't recommend this full scale panel. And what they found with me was that I had a fatty liver. They recommended me doing a detox. So, I did like a month-long liver detox and that there was certain minerals that I was deficient in that were affecting my metabolism.
And they were saying how cancer is a. Obviously it's the unregulated cell growth where a cell gets to a point where it's either not getting what it needs to repair itself or, or there's toxicity or parasites in the environment. And so that's why every person in everyone's case is different. And so you can't just say, well, ivermectin will work, or benvenazole will work, or this will work. And so it is an art to all of this where you kind of have to experiment on your
own self if you're willing to do that. And have you taken those drugs? I have not taken any of those drugs. Okay. How come you've chosen not to? Pardon? How come you've chosen not to? I was afraid that if I didn't do something soon enough that I was risking the chances of the cancer cells spreading. I mean, also like in conjunction with, or was that just, and I'm not second guessing you. I'm just, I'm, I'm learning about all of these, you know, the ivermectin thing.
You know, it's very interesting to me how with COVID, how the world went nuts when people started saying I'm taking ivermectin and it works and how the media was like, no, you can't have that drug that's been used for eons and guaranteed, you know, safe for almost everybody. It was, I mean, I had never heard of ivermectin before, but it sure was curious how freaked out and how dare you even suggest it, even though people were saying it was helping them. So yeah.
And what I'm curious about is why can't we talk about this in the media? Why do people get shadow banned on social media? Like even Mel Gibson was on a podcast and he was like, they were taking, you know, the... Joe Rogan, yeah. Uh-huh. Yes. And Joe Rogan was like, I remember... Bingo.
Because for whatever reason, I don't know why, like what is Facebook meta? What does... X and like what is like are they beholden to the fda or like who who is saying that this stuff can't be talked about what i this is where it's really confusing and it gets to be confused it's just i mean i get there's a lot of money in pharmaceuticals but i mean i think at a certain point if more and more people are starting to take these things and they're seeing results And hopefully, again,
there's going to be some FDA-regulated studies, and not that the FDA is the end-all be-all, because you hear stories about with the OxyContin scandal where the head of the FDA approved OxyContin and then ended up getting hired by them after he quit the FDA a few months later to go then be on the payroll of the Purdue family. Aren't they trying to make a rule that those folks cannot work as a lobbyist or in the pharmaceutical industry for five years after leaving a government job?
That's a good question. Yeah, I think I heard that. Yeah, I do have faith that some of the craziness that's been going on is going to change. I think we're, we're on the precipice of a new freedom to have the conversation and yeah, some, the truths will come out. What do you think? Such a good question.
It's a really good question. What I'm really fascinated about is like quantum healing and like what Joe Dispenza talks about in terms of doing the meditations and visualizing your healthy cells and your body being repaired. And even this integrative doctor that I was working with, you know, I tried it for a few months of like really being held like conscious of what I was eating to the point where like no seed oils and no processed foods and no this and coffee enemas.
And is that exactly what it sounds like? Yeah, I never actually did it because when I saw what you had to do, like stick a funnel up your rear end and put coffee in there and let it sit for like 10 minutes and then you flush out. You know, it's definitely a lifestyle.
And if I feel like if I was living in a vacuum, I could practice all this stuff, but with traveling and going out to for meetings and dinners, and it's really hard to eat healthy to the, like on that type of level where you could at least even try to see if doing that would have an impact on cancer. And it got to the point where I was like, I have to make a decision here.
Either I stay at home and be a monk and eat like chia seeds and drink water for the rest of my life, or I just get the surgery and be able to live a normal life and not have to worry about, is this cancer going to spread any second? Well, yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's, that's the fear. I remember when I was diagnosed, the doctor said, you have breast cancer, it's already spread to your lymph nodes. It's running through like wildfire. We need to treat you urgently and aggressively.
And I just thought, okay, well, let's do it today. You know, and they moved me rapidly. I think I started chemo 10 to 12 days later, but it still felt like forever thinking, oh my gosh, is it in my brain? And, you know, and I'm not a reactor, but the stress that comes along with a cancer. Oh, yeah. Just brutal. So I, you know, I saw your photo come up on your Instagram story of your surgery with those wounds on your on your awesome abs column, Colin. And I just thought going on.
And so dealing with that twice. I mean, I, I really, I don't, I don't fear a whole lot, but the thought of having to go through cancer again, it's just unbearable. So how, how have you been mentally? I mean, I just, or emotionally, I should say. Yeah. It's been ups and downs. Like some days I'm like, all right, I'm good. I got this. Woof. I'm feeling good. And then some days I'm just like, why do I feel so anxious and, and sad?
And like, I went into my physical therapy last Tuesday and she asked, you know, so, so how are you doing? And I just broke down. I was like, I don't know why I'm so emotional right now. I can't, this is so much. And I'm like, I'm just, this all kind of, you know, I, I, I've been working on this and, and trying to mentally prepare for all of this, but how can you mentally prepare for, for this?
I've just been really taking time to just go for walks and be around nature and slow down and not feel like I'm on any pace to get better and just to give myself some grace, feel the feelings and let it out and talk about it. And what's helped is just sharing my message on social media and seeing so many people going through similar experiences and knowing that what I'm going through is helping other people. That's really been helpful.
So I think you're incredibly, I hate to use words that people always use, but really brave, Colin. I mean, when I went through it, I told people, I have it, I'm going to be fine. And then I lied my whole way through. I just told everybody I was fine, even when I wasn't, because I just couldn't deal with not being a ray of sunshine. That's my role in people's lives, right? But I find with prostate cancer, men are not talking about it. They're not talking about testicular cancer.
And I'm sure you probably had zero people to look up to and go by their guidance. So it's really. Well, I read Lance Armstrong's book when I was in 2005 before all the cycling stuff. Whether you like him or not, here's the thing. When he went through his cancer battle, my sister bought me his book. It's called It's More Than Just a Bike, or it's about more than just a bike or something.
And just reading about someone at that type of prominence, having been able to move through this cancer journey and being okay, gave me hope and strength and encouragement that, you know what? Well shit if he can do it and he's back on the bike and he's living a pretty kick-ass life then.
Why can't i you know so i think we do need these role models and inspirational figures in our life to just know that okay i'm not alone in this experience yeah and that really helped me yeah you're not i mean golly you're so young you're i was i was reading it's interesting breast cancer is one in eight women in America. Prostate cancer is one in eight men. I did not know that. Really? Yeah. And then it's, you know, under, under 50, the odds are really, really low.
But once you hit that 50 to 60 range, it's like one in 54. So you're still really young for it, but guys just aren't talking about it. I remember, you know, you're in the world, right? Once you tell people you have it, other people come out of the woodwork. Of course, my books, inspire that. But people are telling me about all the things. And I didn't know that having your prostate removed could cause erectile dysfunction.
And one of my race friends told me he had it. He was like, well, I just got married. And in my mind, all I could think is, oh my God, she wants you alive. But that wasn't my decision to say anything to him. But what a difficult decision for a man to have to make. I'm so grateful they have this robot that can help you get past that and still function fully. Yep. Well, we'll see. I'm still in the beginning phases of this recovery. But honestly, I'm just relieved that that part is over.
And now I'm determined to will myself back to full functionality. Well, if anybody can do it, Colin, it's you, right? Yeah. You're the guy. You're going to have to come back on the fitness show. I'll let you know how it's going. Let us know. So how do you think your fitness and your health has paid off in this situation? I feel like my recovery has been very quick. And even doctors and physical therapists were like, wow, you're up. You're already up and walking and moving and like slow down.
Don't go too fast. And I think what's been great about being active and doing my weight training and biking and running is that a lot of it is all about blood flow and the more active you are, the more blood flow gets to the parts of your body and blood flow delivers nutrients to our cells and it pulls away the toxins away from cells as well.
So I feel like being active and especially my cardiovascular, I was sitting in the hospital and the nurse took my blood pressure and she was like, do you work out? I was like, yeah, I do quite a bit of running and biking. She's like, yeah, your blood pressure is really low. And I was like, or your heart rate is really low.
It was like 40 something. And she was like, it's very common for athletes to have a low heart rate just because we're so used to, we train our bodies essentially to be very efficient with our blood flow and so i feel like a lot of that has just helped me recover faster and be able to get up and and move starting to stretch a little more as well and.
Yeah and just focusing on trying to eat clean and healthy and better right pardon not perfectly but healthy right not yeah i mean i guess by perfect like i still like to eat bacon you know even though but I'll try to eat bacon without nitrates. Okay. I will, you know, I'm pretty particular. I try to avoid eating bread. Like if it's a breakfast burrito and there's a little flour, you know, in the, in the tortilla, fine.
But for the most part, I will, you know, I'll try to skip as many carbs as possible unless it's like a sweet potato where it's, you know, all natural. I eat, try to eat lean meats. And I switched to chickpea pasta, but I just saw last week that a lot of chickpeas are sprayed with.
What is it locally gluckling, propol or whatever which is like antifreeze which is actually like just so many like corns and flowers and so many so much agriculture is just still sprayed with a ton of pesticides, and this is where like you know you think about why is the rate of cancers why is the rate of cancer is skyrocketing and it makes sense if you're constantly eating pesticide laced food and you're eating food that has a lot of just fake stuff
in it i you know i went to the farmer's market here in scottsdale and there was a guy who made his own organic chocolate and i was like he said there's no emulsifiers in here like soy lecithin okay and i said yeah what is that i've seen soy lecithin in a lot of you know because i love dark chocolate and dark chocolate is healthy for you it's got a lot of antioxidant properties so i try to eat it every day to be honest with you even just like a little piece
and he said the big manufacturers when you you heat the chocolate up so it gets liquidy and then when you start to cool it down into the bars the soy lecithin. Allows it or it makes it so that it cools in an equal structure so that the bar has that snap type of quality to it. And that's all equal. He said, if there's no soy lecithin or these emulsifiers, you may have one part of the chocolate that is like kind of really thick and strong and another part will be really crumbly and fall apart.
So the soy lecithin unifies the consistency of the bar. So it is that consistent snapping, you know, firmness. Okay. And he said for organic chocolate makers like myself, but the soy lecithins can just gunk up your system. And he said, uh, what I do, what we do is we heat it up and then we slowly cool it down and then we heat it up again and then we cool it down. And he said it takes longer and it's more of, there's an art to it.
It's almost like brewing coffee. Do you brew it for like four minutes or 10 minutes? And what kind of water are you using? There's an art to it, but it takes longer and it's more labor intensive. So he said for the bigger manufacturers of chocolate, they just throw that lecithin in there and it allows them to just cool it down and then ship it. So it is that mixture of...
Know, healthy things cost more, unfortunately. So it's fascinating because people ask me, why do they, they say just breast cancer run in your family and I'm the one, it's just me, lucky me. Yay. But I'm a vegetarian. I exercise, you know, I try to pinpoint what would I have done? You know, I drank like a sailor when I was in college. Oh boy, did I ever, and alcohol is certainly something that is a carcinogen. God, it's been a long time.
And I'm not radical about anything, Colin, but I sat down, I listened to RFK Jr. And I thought, oh, some of that makes sense. Are there chemicals? I mean, I've never been that girl thinking, what chemicals? But I think we should think about those things. I'm glad there's somebody who's going to be in charge that cares about those things. And I'm not the expert, but perhaps there are people who are that could help us out. Why do we have certain dives in our food that are banned in Europe?
Exactly. Right? Yeah. Yep. It is good to see RFK in there stirring some stuff up and hopefully. Making it so that there's more of a democratization in healthcare where it's not controlled by, you know, these pharma lobbyists, we're able to at least be able to have these conversations without feeling like we're going to be censored, I guess. Right. Well, nobody's ever censored my show. That would be so awesome. They're like the Fitzmaid show. We got to take it down.
So many years ago, when I, it was my first time visiting Europe, I was in, I landed in Hanfleur, France, and it was 50th anniversary of D-Day. And what a stupid person. I didn't go over to those festivities, but I'm walking around Han floor and there's a little grocery store. And I thought, Oh, that'd be cute to go check out a French grocery store. And they sold their chickens out front with their heads still attached. It was just these dangling chickens.
And I thought, yikes, no, thank you. And I decided, you know, if the FDA wasn't involved, I wasn't eating meat in any other countries. And I've traveled abroad extensively and I never have eaten meat over there. But now I think, I don't know if I, I don't know if I'm so impressed by the FDA anymore. Or maybe I should have had some chicken over there when I was eating that. Yeah, I don't know. I think some major improvements need to make because the
cancer cure rates are rising, which is wonderful. The medicines are getting better, more effective. I can't wait till they get vaccinations for so many of these diseases, right? But the diagnosis rates are increasing for the under 50 crowd. I know younger and younger, more and more people are being diagnosed. And I just can't think it's anything but the environment and the things we consume.
Definitely. Definitely. I think it's, you hit it right on the head when you said there's so many chemicals that are banned in Europe. I think there's like over 2,500 chemicals that are banned in Europe that we allow, you know, our foods, our cleaning products, our makeups, our all kinds of stuff. Well, you know, they say it's like the dyes. Okay.
Well, let's say we're going to eat whatever's in a cheeto does a cheeto have to be orange i don't know i mean could we eat a white cheeto probably could you know i mean i don't i don't know how much influence these colors have over our decision i mean maybe if you're a kid and you're looking for something fun oh yeah i mean come on look at lucky charms and fruit loops they're so fun to look at of course it's gonna And the thing is, they've done studies where our
brains are just hard, hardwired for bright colors, which are the fruits, lemons, oranges, blueberries, cherries. And so these food companies know that as long as they create these big, bright, you know, enticing colors on these boxes, it triggers our reptilian brain to think that's food, that's sustenance. Let's get it. Now, on that note, how come people aren't looking at cherries and oranges and lemons and saying, hmm, let's eat some of that?
Because I feel not enough people are eating enough produce. You know what I'm saying? If I'm drawing people in, why are they steering clear of the produce section? Yeah, because it's the presentation. And when you go to the grocery store. That's why marketing people who are great at marketing, they're great at what they do because they present something where it is either sexy or it appeals to the reptilian part of our brain.
So if you look at, you know, palm, pomegranate juice, where they've taken something where pomegranate and pomegranate juice, no one really heard about it. I mean, it's red, you know, they're nice. And then they create, you know, cool logo with the heart on it. And they've had cool marketing campaign about it. Marketing really has an effect on our subconscious decision-making. And they say roughly over 90% of our decision-making is subconsciously.
And so you may consciously believe you are making a choice, but it is based on unconscious, subconscious programming where you may not, and it may not always be based on fact. So what we do is we make a decision based on these these beliefs that we have and if it doesn't line up with the facts or with reality we will try to find a way to justify it to fit into the narrative that we want to tell and that's what cognitive dissonance dissonance is we see this a lot of in politics.
Or in all kinds of things where like even just with food, like, you know, to say, well, I mean, ice cream isn't that bad, you know, and where it tastes so good and it appeals to, that those feelings of making us feel comfortable, satiating, part of it's biochemical. Cheese has, yeah, a lot of these like cheese has, what is it? Casein, casein, casein, whatever. And some of these other ingredients that mimic cocaine and heroin to the point where you get addicted to this stuff.
So it all plays like marketing and what they put into foods to make them more. Basically, your body gets trained to have them. And when you don't have it, you go through these withdrawal periods.
And these companies know what they're doing. I read recently the cigarette industry used to lace cigarettes with fiberglass particles, so that when you breathe in, these fiberglass particles would go into your lungs and cut your lungs up to deliver more nicotine into your system to get you more addicted. It's disturbing. It's very disturbing. Huh. Wow. All the things nobody ever wants to know, Colin. That's awful. Who knows? We'll probably get banned eventually for talking about this stuff.
Unless Elon Musk and RFK do something about all this stuff. Jesus. Jesus. So, you know, you take two young, healthy people like us who are doing almost all the right things. I mean, do a little bragging. Tell people how many marathons you've run, Colin. I think it's seven set yeah i believe it's seven incredible and then san diego new york l.a. Chicago yeah i've done probably 15 triathlons.
And yeah i'm so anxious to get back on my bike and just be able to start riding again well i bet that's coming soon And we will be right back. Do your hips, glutes, quads, and hamstrings need extra support while running? Of course they do. Both soothing and comfortable, compression tights by Leo Revee boosts blood and lymphatic circulation while increasing muscle pliability, which helps prevent fatigue and injury. Made for men and women of all speeds.
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So and when you're doing that it's a good it's a very great it's a good incentive to keep you in shape and you know working in front of the camera is a good incentive to make sure that you know eating healthy and you're hydrating and one of the things that i really find fascinating is gut health i really have realized that your your gut health and what your biome is down there really has a lot to do with your mood. The health of your skin, just your autoimmune function. It's incredible.
The more I see people focusing on creating a healthy gut flora, a lot of their issues just clear up. Yeah. I just had my favorite registered dietician on my show. I just published today, Tara Collingwood, and she was talking about gut health and how it's so beneficial to have a little bit of each type of produce. And there's there's steps you can take, you know, there's, there's drug free ways to improve your gut health and how necessary that is.
So powerless, I think we've both, both felt very powerless at times where they say you have this, and then you're just, you're stuck going, okay, how do we get rid of it? Help me help me, which I hate asking. I hate not being in charge of me. And I feel like you're probably the same guy. So what are the things that you definitely do to control Colin? Well, you bring up a good point. I would say when I was younger, I didn't want to ask for help. But after my first cancer experience,
I realized that I couldn't do it alone. I tried to do it alone. And when I was working on all my children, I was going through my radiation treatment. And after three weeks, I didn't tell anyone. Fortunately, my schedule lined up where I could go to work and go get my radiation treatment, go home, feel nauseous and flu symptoms and want to throw up and then wake up the next morning, go back to that and work.
There's one instance towards the end of my treatment where I had to get my scenes were scheduled for the afternoon.
So I scheduled my radiation for the morning. so i went to the radiation then went to the studio and i couldn't get through my scenes my director came over and just said you know you're right you don't look so good and i just i was like i i'm not doing so good i going through radiation treatment right now i had cancer surgery two months prior he's like what do you why didn't you tell anyone you idiot like and you you really think about it, I was like,
who is it serving when you don't share with people? You know, I realized it was, it's a manipulative thing to do, to hold it in. When you think that you're, you don't want to be, most of the time people don't want to be a bother. They don't want to put people out. But the thing is, then you're preventing them, you're giving, preventing giving them the opportunity to make them feel purposeful, to make them feel like they're making a contribution.
When people make a contribution and know that they have some sort of purpose in making someone else's lives better, that's what makes them feel good.
And that one, that's what makes them feel purposeful. and it so by sharing what you're going through you're actually giving someone the opportunity giving them the gift of them being able to step up into the role that makes them feel the best about who they are so i think it's this energetic flow that if you stop the flow and just hold it in, like stopping blood flow, things start to wilt and die. And relationships can wilt and die if communication stops.
Your mental health can wilt and die if you don't share and get it out and let it flow. And being able to do all this stuff and filling your cup back up so that you can then be out there and give to other people. You got to be smart enough to know that you can't keep giving, giving, giving energetically, physically, mentally without getting filled up. And the only way you can get filled up is if you keep that cycle going.
So did you learn that lesson quickly when you were on the set and on all my children, or did it take you longer to figure that out? Yeah, no, I, after sharing that, when I was first, when I first got to the show, you could tell there was this like, who's this new guy you know who's is he coming in here is he gonna take over the attention and the fan letters and so some of the other guys on the show weren't super friendly to me and after, they found out that i was going through this.
One of them offered to go to the hospital with me and take me he was like dude sorry to hear this If you need anyone to go with you, I was like, honestly, yeah. My next checkup is like, you know, Thursday, I don't have anyone to go with, you know, would you mind coming with me? And I, you know, I, I never, I would say a few words to this guy on set and we kind of just did our work and then went our separate ways. Yeah.
But this experience allowed him to show up to be the provider and the friend that deep down he authentically was. But I think sometimes we let our outside superficial perceptions of things in our, again, that reptilian part of our brain, which is all about survival. Like, who is this? Are they a threat? But the more that we just tune into our heart center and I just keep focusing on trying to find out what is amazing about someone else.
And once they see that you're interested and they see fully seen and heard by you, their walls will most likely go down and they will show up for you. And when these guys saw that my walls were down and that I was in a vulnerable position, then their walls went down because they realized, well, this guy's going through a really difficult time. Maybe he needs some help. So this is really helpful for men, I think, just being able to talk about this stuff and just say, you know what?
I can't do this alone. Would you mind going to the hospital with me? And you know what? if they can't, then that's fine. People think, well, if I can't go, so you're going to think something bad. No, this is where we got to have an honest conversation about, I will go if I can. If I can't, I will honestly let you know, and maybe I can help you find someone else who can.
But people are afraid to have these conversations because people are just afraid of letting people down or putting people out or putting them in a situation and people just a lot of what I do and talk about, I teach a communications class. You can see here over here beyond impact. Okay.
And it's beyond impact communications mastery. And a lot of what I've learned from my acting classes in terms of how to connect authentically with another human being is something that I found out in the real world is, you know, thoroughly lacking. And my acting class has actually helped me become a better communicator in my real life relationships, more confident, just advocating for myself and speaking up for myself and just honestly sharing things that I'm going through and what I need.
And there's a difference between neediness and needing something. Okay. That's brilliant. Right. And I think a lot of people think like, well, if I ask for this, I don't want to become a peer needy. There is a difference where someone who's nagging and needy and someone who confidently asks for something that they need. So a lot of it has to do the way in which you communicate something, the way in which you ask. If you ask with confidence and certainty.
That's what gets communicated to the other side where they then, people don't like neediness. They don't like weakness. It makes them feel insecure. And it's part of our genetics where we don't want to interact with people who are coming across or seemingly needy. But if someone says, I need some help and I can take care of this and I'm okay with this. I just need some help here. Would you be able to do that? Where it's an empowering conversation rather than a disempowering conversation.
And this is some of the things that I talk about in my communications masterclass. And it's been profound to see some of the insights that I share with people, how their relationships shift and change and looking, changing our perceptions and perspectives on how we interact with people from a perspective of being right to a perspective of wanting to have a loving relationship. Because a lot of us want to be right. A lot of us want to see, honey. No, see, see, I told you I was right.
See, but then that puts up a wall and prevents us from genuinely connecting with people and it can be difficult because. But we've got to make some difficult decisions. And do you want to be right? Or do you want to have a loving relationship? And there's a middle ground there too, though. So I love that you went there. At the end of my show, we always do a communication tip of the show. I always ask my guests, you have a communication tip. Anything to help you connect with other people better.
And then we do the song on the show, which I'll have to do later. But brilliant. It's hard to ask for help. I remember, you know, feeling like I'm a helper, not a helpie. Nobody helps Fitz Kohler. You know, when my mortal started showing, it was really uncomfortable. But then I just decided, okay, I needed people to help drive my kids to school. I was just too sick to do some of those things. And I also couldn't feed them. I couldn't cook. I couldn't do a lot of those things.
And so And then I will spend the rest of my life trying to make it up to everybody else. Just trying to pay it forward. You know, that works for me. That works for me. And I do like helping and it's, it feels good. And then you're right. It's, you got to let other people be that person, be, be the hero, be the hero for the moment or the day.
And it's just great advice now for guys. Give some pointed advice for men going specifically through prostate cancer from nuts and bolts of the science stuff or the emotional stuff. What are you going to share with them? Because guys don't like to talk about this stuff or they're afraid to. So I have a chapter in my book that I wrote. It's called Agile Artist, Life Lessons from Hollywood and Beyond.
And I write about one of the chapters in there is called Freeballin' because after my second testicular cancer surgery where I had it removed, I ain't got none. So I think being able to bring some levity and a sense of lightness and humor to this, But then also asking yourself the question, who do I choose to be in the face of this? And do I want to be someone who can look this uncertain experience in the face and create some certainty and some grace and create a positive outcome for myself?
Or am I going to let life and this cancer dictate who I am, what my life is going to be, and how I feel about it? And a lot of the times as men, we thrive in environments where we have control, where we can assert our dominance and certainty. And that's why when men are out of control, a lot of the times they will resort to anger because nothing gets you into certainty faster than getting angry.
And so I think it's important that men go to the gym, put on your boxing gloves, tap into that masculine side of who you are, create that certainty. But we've also got to be careful about doing that in environments where it's safe, or we're doing that in the gym, in therapy sessions, with our friends, and be careful about unleashing that curiosity around people in your life, especially women who are mostly nurturing and wanting to provide these environments for us to feel safe in.
And the story of the prince slaying the dragon and rescuing the princess, that metaphorically describes men. Then we need to learn how to slay our own dragon within ourselves, which is that self-control and that emotional intelligence to be able to slay those angry, fierce feelings to provide a safe space for women, for women to show up to be in their feminine nurturing centers.
Otherwise, if men were too much in our victim-blaming-what-was-me energy, then women then have to assert and slide into their masculine energy, and then that can completely change the dynamics of a relationship. And men and women who love each other may actually be bickering the whole time, and they don't even realize why. A lot of it has to do with these archetypal and energetic shifts. And this is what I talk about in my communications class.
A lot of the stuff that we get trained in as actors about archetypes and personality types and creating your self-identity to play the character you need to play. And this is what I teach and I share with men in terms of really, don't be afraid or shy away from leaning into your masculinity. This is the time when you really need to do that, but know that there are safe spaces where you got to create to be able to do that.
So then you can show up for the people in your life who are there to support you. Well said. Well said. I love that you are also of the nature of control what you can. Right? You can't control everything, but there's certain things you can choose for yourself and practice, right? Yep. Yep. Huge. So what's next for you? Well, I've got to do my Kegel exercises. Right? Is that hard for a guy? It's not hard. It's just got to do them 10 times a day.
And there's two different exercises. is there's the, you flex that Kegel muscle, which is the muscle between your anus and your balls. And the physical therapist actually puts their hand there and will make sure that you're flexing the right muscles. And so you hold it for a count of five and then let it go and then take a breath in. Breath out and then hold in the kegel for five i feel like we're doing this together now are we kegeling and then let go and you do 10 sets of that.
And you do five to six of those throughout the day. So roughly 50 to 60 of those. And then you do what are called quick flicks, where you hold, let go, hold, let go, hold, let go. And so we had to practice today, flexing your pelvic floor muscle down there and then standing up. Tricky. and then flexing it, and then sitting down. Because anytime you squeeze after prostate cancer surgery, you tend to leak. There's incontinence.
So this is practicing becoming aware of being able to control that pelvic floor muscle so that you can consciously control it to prevent your leaking. Okay. So on that note, share your expertise, because I'm sure they've done some explaining for you. For a man who has not had prostate surgery, what are the benefits of Kegeling for your average Joe? Well, it allows you to be able to hold your urine for longer. It allows you to be able to control your ejaculation and orgasm.
So flexing that muscle, I don't know if this is a myth or urban legend that Sting, he was so in tune with these kegels and tantric sexual practices that he could have sex for like 24 hours not like whatever but all of that is intertwined down there so just practicing this stuff and one of my nurse one of the nurse practitioners told me that one of her patient clients he's a truck driver and to remind himself to do his kegel exercises every time he comes to a red light,
that's his time to or his reminder to do his kegel exercises so if you're driving in your car and you come up to a red light that's your that's your time to practice your kegel exercises, to be able to become a king in the bedroom king in the bedroom i love that we're going to call them kegels for colin every red light and that's important like i do when i let my dogs out to go potty. I stretch my hips every time. So we're going to attach this new, exciting exercise to red lights.
That's, that's great stuff. Did you ever think you'd be on a show teaching Kegels? No. Here we are. Here we are. And you're, you're damn good at it. So, so something I would like to bring to your attention. One of the things, I am doing right now is I'm doing my own 21 round challenge. So I had 21 rounds of chemo and that was my least fun part of all my treatment. I had radiation and surgery, but chemo was the worst for me.
And so what I've decided is I'm going to trade every one of my rounds of chemo for a round of adventure, just something to turn my heroics, harrowing experiences into happiness. And so I've already completed five and they include running Boston Marathon. I did a dancing with the stars competition. And then recently I just swam with a bunch of whale sharks.
And so I've got 16 more and I'm still deciding what they're going to be, but maybe you could take, whether it's 21 rounds or three or whatever number you decide and, you know, purposely.
Upgrade your life in exchange for the hard times that's a good suggestion i like it i've always wanted to do a spartan race you've not done spartan oh they're so fun you would love spartan that's a great choice that's a good start that's number that was actually round number one for me okay yeah wow so there's that's a good start but make a list yeah i definitely want to do another marathon. And yeah, no, that's a good, it's a good suggestion. I'll, I'll, I'll think on that.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, cancer certainly reminds us that life is short, right? Yep. Absolutely. Yeah. Force joy down your own damn throat. Why not? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay, Colin. So I am going to ask you for song of the show. If our friends are out running the Chicago Marathon or doing a triathlon like you or walking their dogs, what song would you have them add to their playlist? I want something just like this by Coldplay. Well, that's a really good song. Or I think it's something just like this.
Because it makes me present to the present moment. I want something just like this. I can't sing. But it just makes you realize like what you have is most of the time more than what 95% of the people on this planet could ever dream of having. And most of the time, the things that are the most precious to us are right under our noses. And we're so focused on the next best thing that that song always just gets me, snaps me right back into the present moment.
Makes me appreciate, yes, I want something just like this. I love it. I love it. And you are cancer-free right now, right, Colin? I am. They did the pathology on my lymph nodes and no signs of cancer. Thank God. and that's a big reason why I decided to do the surgery because I didn't want to feel like a ticking time bomb. Because when I did the testicular cancer, they did find cancer cells had gone throughout my body and that's why they did the radiation.
And I just didn't want to be in that disempowering place. I was like, this is something I can decide to do. And once I commit to it. Boom. Let's do it. Yeah. Cancer free. Cheers to that. Cheers to that. Hey, uh, thank you so much for coming to share your story. I think, I just think it's really important. Us girls, we yammer on about the stuff all the time.
I mean, the amount, the millions of women willing to stand up and shout about their boobs and less, but there's not so many men willing to do what you're doing right now. And I really think it's necessary. And we talked about statistics before, my favorite statistic for prostate cancer is that it's 99% of all cases are curable. Good to hear. Yeah. I try to not pay attention to too many statistics because I think what happens then your brain can get fixated on one demographic or the other.
Right. And something that resonated with me when I was reading Lance Armstrong's book was. Was that when he was diagnosed, he went to both the Houston Cancer Freeman Center and University of Indiana. And the doctor at Houston Center said, yep, we've got a protocol, chemotherapy, and, you know, high success rate of, you know, shrinking tumors. And Lance said, well, will I be able to ride my bike afterwards?
And the doctors at Houston said, no, unfortunately, it's going to damage your lungs and it's just don't expect to get back to where you were and then he went to university of indiana and this doctor said you know we're going to do this we're going to do this we're going to do this and lance said so will i be able to get back on my bike yep you're going to be back on your bike and you're going to be better than you ever were before and lance
was like well they just told me down to houston like these drugs he's like nope this is different this.
And he said that he said this is the way we do it and don't worry you're going to be back on your bike and lance said asked him well how how do you know that and he's the doctor said because as good as you are on the bike i'm better as a doctor wow and lance was like okay i want i want to go with you yeah that's where the power of creating the certainty in your life has a huge impact on your outcome on your the way you show up the way you
wake up in the morning and after lance was treated and he was cancer free he went back to go see that doctor again after a year later and, And Lance was like, you were right. You know, and Lance was back. Cycling again. And the doctor was asked, I think Lance asked him, so when you said that I was going to be okay, and I was going to be cured, and I was going to get back on my bike, he said. Did you really believe that? He said, I have to believe it.
And he said, the statistics, If I gave you statistics, if I said it was 5% or 10%, your brain will go towards that. Well, I only have a 5% chance of survival or a 15% and your brain will fixate on statistics. So this is where I don't, a lot of people will say, well, do you want to read about this? Do you want me to, do you want some literature about prostate cancer? Nope. I let the doctors do that stuff.
I handle my mindset i handle what i can control i handle my well-being my breath work my diet my exercise let the doctors worry about the statistics yeah and i'm gonna just do me and i write in my calendar and i created this 90-day playbook which is all about creating certainty in your life it's called the 90 day manifestation playbook and so it's all about creating the certainty in your day by writing into this brain dump bucket what you have to accomplish for that week and then every day you
get the opportunity to create your day by writing in here who you choose to be as your self-identity, what you want to manifest for the day. I've got your check-ins for six glasses of water, your two workouts or your workout, your two meditations. And then over here you have chakras, which are all about repeating the mantra of who you are. So there's seven chakras, the mantras are, I know, I see, I speak, I love, I do, I feel, and I am.
And so every day you can create the energetic, clockwise, open, circular motion of opening up your chakras and just repeating, I know that I'm healthy. I see that I'm going to have an amazing life ahead of me with an amazing family. I speak the truth and I ask for help. I love myself and everyone around me. And I love this experience is allowing me to wake up to the challenges and what's important in life. I do the things that most people will never even think of doing.
I feel strong and healthy and I am the most badass motherfucker that ever walked this planet and cancer doesn't have a chance against me. I love it. I love it. Hey, Colin, where can people find you? So they're going to hang out, they're going to stop listening to this show, and they're going to go straight to your website and find you on socials. Yeah, you can go to colinegglesfield.com, my website. You can go to my Instagram, which is at colinegglesfield.
And on there, you'll be able to see where you can buy my book. You can get my book on Amazon. This is the journal. And I've got my Agile Artist Life Lessons from Hollywood and Beyond, which is all about my journey through my testicular cancer. And then also I'm doing a health and wellness retreat April 3rd through the 7th here in Scottsdale. We've got spaces for up to 20 people. I've been doing these retreats every year for the past three years now.
And we do hiking, sound bowl, healing, yoga. I do my Beyond Impact Communications Workshop. We go horseback riding. We do line dancing we do a dancing under the stars come dance competition we go to my buddy's health spa we do red light therapy and cold pool plunges.
Just it's an amazing weekend of connection and healing and rejuvenation sounds wonderful sounds absolutely wonderful i adore you thank you for always coming back on my show when i ask you too i really appreciate colin i adore you too fitz appreciate you wish you my best with everything. And how about you commit to coming back on the show when you're getting ready to run your next marathon all right sounds good is that good all right now you gotta look at the camera and when gusto.
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