This is as much fun as we have as golfers. I mean, we have a miserable existence sometimes. I mean it's like it looks so dreamy, but it can be a bit of a grand But this is exactly what we do it for. And this is as much fun as I've ever had playing golf. So put another log on the fire nobody hears. Give the time. Welcome to the fire pit with Matt Chanella. We're back for another Wishbone Brawl at Goat Hill Park in Oceanside, California, about forty minutes north of the airport, right off of I
five yard Part sixty five. Municipal can be played for forty two dollars during the week. On weekends, members, seniors and active military play for twenty eight dollars. It's San Diego residents pay less than forty dollars to walk, and juniors under the age of seventeen pay ten dollars. There's also disc golf on Sundays, Mondays, Tuesdays, and Thursdays, which is fifteen dollars on weekdays and twenty dollars on weekends.
So what is the Wishbone Brawl? In short, it's four professionals playing a mini municipal using vintage equipment in front of an animated crowd not confined by ropes. Kids and dogs are everywhere, and all the money raised supports junior golf. When people talk about growing the game, this is it
on so many levels. What you'll hear in this podcast or all the relevant audio moments throughout the day which starts with a warm up session on the driving range and ends with the post round interviews on the eighteen green. In between our some walking talks on the course and throughout play with the players and some notables in the gallery, and you'll hear the occasional reacts from the crowd after key moments in the match. The teams are Xander Shaffley
and Dean Wilson versus Fred Couples and Jeff Ogilvie. They're playing per Simmon Woods. The format is best Ball of the twosome. It's November, a perfect Saturday morning in San Diego. The crowd size is estimated to be a thousand adults, another two and fifty kids, and about forty or fifty dogs. All of the proceeds are going to support North County Junior Golf, which is based out of goat Hill Park, and the other half of what's raised goes to support
the goat Hill Park Caddy and Leadership Academy. Before we get to the start of the day, I want to thank links Soul for their support of the Firepit Collective and specifically this podcast. The lifestyle brand, which was started by John Ashworth and his nephew Jeff Cunningham, is all I wear on and off the course. Go to link soul dot com and use promo code fire Pit off your next purchase. I'd also like to thank Truly hard
Seltzer's for their support of this event. Their contribute of thirty six thousand dollars for the Skins game two thousand dollars per hole is the kick start to the fundraising aspect of the Wishbone Brawl, which raised over a hundred and fifty thousand dollars last year. The money that's raised is through ticket sales, Truly's contribution, and the online auction which can be found at link soul dot com forward
slash Wishbone. There are almost a hundred items to bid on, which includes golf trips to some of the top destinations in the world, signed surfboards by Legends, like Kelly Slater and Ramachado, fittings at Tailor Made and Titless v I P tickets to a Padres game, and so much more. The auction ends on December five at eight o'clock pm Pacific Standard time. And with that it's eleven am. It's about sixty eight degrees and it's time to address the
crowd and catch up with the competitors. Welcome to the Wishbone Brawl. This is the fifth annual Wishbone Brawl at Goat Hill Park. First, we'll give yourselves a round of applause. You got tickets before closed out, Fred you get anybody ask you for tickets in the last couple of days. Hey, for the kids in the crowd, if you want to come over here, there's a couple of mats set up. We have clubs if you want to take a couple
of swipes, hit a gong and win a hat. As these guys are practicing and warming up and getting ready for the start of the brawl, any kid that wants to come over and take a take a rip, hit a gong, win a hat after his first year here last year, we're walking up the sixth hole to the green and Fred Couple said, you know what, I'm definitely
coming back next year. And guess who's here, ladies and gentlemen, Fred Couples, Freddie, what was it about this event that made you feel so early on like this is something I want to be a part of. I'm coming back. I'm in Oh. I've known John Ashworth forever and Mr Ogilvie right here couldn't come because of the COVID, so I filled in and now this year we're teammates. So
that's how that works. But uh, I had will last year as a partner and I still have eight at my Caddy and her sister Annabelle's county for jeff So this is kind of like a family little deal. But really the charity is great and people don't know this, but this is kind of what I grew up on at Jefferson Park in Seattle, a little public golf course that I learned to play really really well, and it honestly got me to where I am. And Goat Hill
is a lot like Jefferson Park. John Ashworth, obviously, you guys have a long history together, going back to the start of Ashworth. What's it mean to you to kind of stay connected to somebody like that supports some of what he's trying to do and which is a truly authentic grow the game sort of hub of of of golfing life here. Well, I think, first, you know, I lived fifty miles up the road or not even that far, and I've I've had a few people say let's go
play John Ashworth's course. I've lived in Newport for seven years, and I'll be honest, I didn't know what the goat was. And then and then I think last year I saw a little thing on the Golf channel where you're superintendent, who I don't know if he's out here today, is phenomenal, and I just I got a big little rush listening to them talk about this gentleman who runs the goat and for what John's doing. You know, the first thing I said is this driving range is like Augusta National.
It's perfect, and you guys just reseated or sought at it, so it's perfect. The kids can come out, dogs can come out. It's got a nice I'm not this kind of guy to talk like this, but they say it's got a nice vibe. What what do you know about the nice I'm a hundred years old. That's why I'm saying that. I think it's got a great feel to it. So I don't know what a vibe is, but this is a great field to it. And what do you know about the masters anyway? But augustin Nashville, Ladies and gentlemen,
it's so good to have Fred Couples here. We'll get the more announcements later on. That's good luck today. Good luck Jeff Ogilvie. He kind of made Wishbone Brawl history in ten after play was extended, they go back to the ninety thirty three yards swish walk off game winner two thousand six US Open winner. Jeff Ogilvie's here, Ladies and Geffen, Jeff, you came. You had a great time obviously, Uh, you know, a global pandemic got in the way of
being here, uh last year. But what do you feel as you are as you're back to kind of essentially defend your title? Wow? Yeah, we had a lot. I went in. Some may never come back after that, right, not right? Yeah, I mean it was pretty exciting. One moment that was good times. It's just a great, as Freddie said, vibe that we have out here at the goat. Um. Yeah, I've been a fan of it since UM as started sort of on this program side go Hill and been by a lot and it's one of my sort of
him away from home whenever I come through town. It's the greatest part. You're hosting in December right right prior to Christmas in Melbourne where you grew up, the sand Belt Invitational, and it's an event that's kind of like the Wishbone Brawl on steroids. It's for pros and amateurs, men, women, boys and girls. Uh. You're obviously a big fan of kind of this movement of something that's a little more
alternative than just a traditional kind of professional event. Why and and and what do you see the benefits for you being part of something like that. I just think golf should be upon for all right. Um, this is just the one thing I would have loved when I was a kid was to get to play with the pros more often and to get to play the great courses, and we didn't get to do on this so um this is we're put on a tournament on the best
courses in Australia arguably the world, some of them. Um. Four days in a row, men, women, pros and men, women avators like the boys and girls come and play with us and have a real tournament around the best stuff. It's I don't know, it's just it's a game for everyone. It's a very restricted game. And I think that's why places like they got its own boarding, because it makes golf fun. However you want to come play and just complay however you want to play, and if you're in,
if you're a good person, um, you'll fit in. Um. And we're just trying to run a thing like that. Really. Yeah, great to have you take us through your bag. What are you swinging in terms of of your true woods today? My true woods? My forwards a McGregor that I've got gifted from somewhere. It's pretty old. I think sixties maybe, but when they made a good one. There's Freddy all the test. He's using his games from the good old days. Um, when they when they made a good one, they stayed good,
right like I cook. It didn't change as fast in those days. So this one's pretty special. My drivers are it's a hon mark from Japan's um and the Japanese have alway my beautiful golf clubs and it's just a Yeah, it's a Norse pub. It's got a stiff enough shoft and uh, I don't think it guys very stride, but it's fun to hit. You've been popping through goat Hill Park over the course of John's resurrection of this, and
you got to play at twelve Holes yesterday. But just talk about kind of the evolution of goat Hill Park from your eyes as a guy who works in architecture, who's a fan of of what's going on in development of golf. Yeah, I mean, what a cool place him in when Ashby said we're gonna side this place him and he kind of broke me up here and showed me. And there was no irrigation for years in the whole places of the bowl just landed hill and rolled at
the bottom of the hill and every hall. Um I thought, well, I was a long way back to that place, but um, he's done non labeled job. It just gets better and better every time I come the range. As Freddie said, the voluble of the field. The place is so special. It just makes you want to come and hang out, hit holes and play some holes and them, I don't know, just gets better every time I come back. Jeff Bogilby
ladies and gentlemen, who's always welcome. I go to Hill Park, but yet like goats own local legend, uh, six time winner on the Japan Tour, builds a lot of the clubs that some of the guys are either using or put with a bit of a like a clubmaking savant. Please welcome Dean Wilson being this was always kind of a thought and an idea that you and John kind of hashed out. And here it is as this trajectory
of this event just keeps going in one direction. But what's it mean to you to kind of continue to see the evolution of what's happening here? Right? I mean, you'd inher. It's pretty awesome to me. It kind of started when John and I were just trying to He mentioned trying to make a tournament and to raise some money for charity. Uh. He made a couple of phone calls.
He called Xander, I called Charlie, Chris Riley over there, and they were all open to coming out and helping, and he came out the first year and with six years later we got you got this. It's really really awesome. So I'm very happy to be a partner, take us through your bag? What are you? What are you swinging around here today? Right here? I goop got some Byron Nelson. What I think is cool about this is the number here is point three, which is his stroke average on tour.
So I think that's pretty cool. I know it looks like I have a modern draft by Shafting, but this thing is from the nineties, so I'm not sure about it's a flexibility. It's kind of like a fishing pole. Um to talk to me about goat Hill Park? You're you're you know, Oh we got a goner. We got a goner. Come on out and take a round of applause. Come on. What does it feel like being the first gong or a goat Hill Park? Pretty good? Yeah? What's your name? Ian? What card? How old would that feel like?
And what's he gonna feel like going to pick a hat from Mrs Shafley Signed ball by Xander Shafley. You at the end of the day, Dean, that's really what this is about, right, It's about the kids, right, And I just want to echo what Freddie said. You know, I grew up out of Muni Muni's at my heart and just to come out here and see everybody from all walks of life. It's just awesome and I agree with everybody's This place has a great feel, great vibe and probably a part of yeah again. You know, what
do you know about a good vibe? Come on? Yeah, Ladies and gentlemen, always a pleasure. Dean Wilson, m Xanders Shafley is back Ladies and gentlemen. Been a part of all five young Xander. It's not like you don't have much going on, you know, you're not busy. Uh what's it mean to you for for you to be a part of this event and and sort of put this on your calendar every year? Yes, obviously been made, you know, a priority in my schedule. Everyone always sponsors everybody. You know,
my crew knows that. You know, this day is is left open. So for me to be here and support the community and give back is very important. Dave Emrick, who runs North County Junior Golf Association, your longtime friends with his son here, San Diego native San Diego State. Uh is that kind of part of what this is all about? This is a giveback for you. Yeah. You know, on the piece of paper it says I'm in Las Vegas the Vata now, but everyone here knows that's not true. So, um,
it does feel to be back here. It's nice to see a lot of familiar faces, and it's nice to see new faces as well. Uh. The idea of looking at the faces of these kids in the crowd and the experience that they'll have out there today in the years past, putting those memories in their planting that seed, does it feels like that's kind of part of the growth of the game. Yeah, And selfishly, you know, it makes me feel good to be able to be that
sort of vehicle for them. And the more kids that can just sort of, you know, stay on the course, whether it's on this golf course or playing other sports is really important. And so you know, I'm gonna have kids at some point in the future here, and I definitely would want them to be a part of something like this. Yeah, very special. So we'll take us through your bag. What are you swinging around in the woods category? Oh? I got just the one, three, and five switched ending up.
I'm gonna like fred I don't really like to, you know, blame my person in woods for performances shots fired, but yeah, if it's official we'll get back to you can respond from timmy para. Fred does have a plethora of person and what's to choose? Front? Uh? Does are all the thing soul wood? Yeah, same same old, same finish saying great, same cheft. I guess this is a barrel here, same
wound girl. So yeah, they feel good as ever. Thank you, living um, the the golf course and what John has done and the like you pop in from time to time and the improvements that have been made. What's that like for you to observe? I mean, every year, every year we come here, there's something new. I already heard. There's a couple of tricks here on property with a new tea boxes and things like that that I haven't seen yet. So I mean, it's just you can just
tell what everything that's going on property. It's really catering to the kids, and cater's just sort of what golf is supposed to be, which is just you know a lot of fun, just wide open um and difficult at the same time. All right, well, here's another sign ball by you. I'm gonna encourage you to give that to any one of the kids here in the front. Real how you see did now there's Andrews Shockley signed ball. There is a kid who's wearing a shirt that says
local legend. I think he may qualify. Where's Chris Riley. He's very shy, doesn't do a lot of talking, but we're gonna We're gonna pull it out of him. Winner. Chris Rutley played and to wish Bone Brawls. His overall record is one and one. He played with Ogilvie when they won that tournament. Kept him alive with the hot with the flatstick obviously uh and and lost with Charlie Hoffman, a local obviously and the head coach of the University of San Diego men's golf team. Roles playing the two
four just one in event. Give a give a round applause to Chris Riley for being battled two thousand four rider cumper winner on the PGA Tour rowlse. What's it like for you to be a part of this event? Well, I mean this is you know what Fred and Dean and Zander, we all come from Munis. I grew up at Techoloti Canyon Um in Claremont, and so to me, this is the route of golf, Like this is what it's all about really, um, and I'm just you know,
I'm officially retired. When when Jeff hold that shot and it was over, I'm like, I don't ever have to play again. It was literally a walk off for Chris Riley. It's walk off and walk away. It was. It was And um, it's great to see Jeff back. He's a he's a great guy. I'll never forget. In two thousand, in my first year on the tour, this guy hit a two iron like a pitching wedge. I've never seen
anything like it. Um, but the great guy. Um. Love John Ashworth, love you love Dean's You're awesome, you know, San Diego. So it's just great to be out here. Yeah, great to have Chris Riley and the crowd today, dog at all. Thank god he didn't bring his cat mass chaos. Where's Dave Emrick? How about a round of applause for the sponsor of this event, truly, round of applause who make make all this possible? The Efficient Drink, the official
drink of the North County Junior Golf Association. Uh, coach Jave, you know you teach out of here. You and your wife help run the North County Junior golf station. You do run it? Uh, why does it matter? Why did you get involved? Why does it matter? And what's the trajectory of the program. Wow, that's a lot of that's a lot of good questions. Are well, you know, we just started this and our art initial statement is to hold fun, affordable and competitive golf tournaments for boys and
girls half levels in ages. So we have two kind of tours. At the Executive Tour we played tournaments at and we also play on a Championship tour championship courses. And we do it because we love it. There's only one reason we're doing it because we love it. It's all about the kids. Look at all the kids here. Yeah, we're playing it forward my son. It's a family thing, you know. My my wife does a lot of work. I do a little bit, and the kids do more.
And what's it mean to you? You know, for for people like Xander, Deane, Jeff and Fred to rock up at the go this is your home turf and be a part of an event that last year raised over a hundred and fifty dollars for junior golf, both your North County Junior Golf Association and Go to Hill Parks, Junior Caddy and Leadership Academy. You know it's Christmas Day.
That's thatdn't sleep much. I was waiting for Santa Claus to come, but it's so so killed these guys I'll come out and give their time to the kids, you know, like our North kind of junior golf is all about the kids. And how do people get involved? How do you sign up? How do you be a part of this programmer? Well, go to Hill Parks are home, so you can sign up at go Hill Park or you can go to the North County Junior Golf website. A big round of applause for Dave America's wife Marcia and
everything they're doing out here. Well, I need to thank totally need to thank the players, you, Matt for coming out, John Ashworth Woody, I mean there's so many people that thank Jay, this golf staff, all those guys are. It's a big family out here in North County Junior Golf the family too, So thank you guys for coming out. We're gonna put on a great show to So we're
about forty five minutes into the day. Ashworth and his staff have been prepped being the course for weeks and after the pros spent a few minutes on the practice putting green, everyone gathers around the first tea a quick history of the competition. In the first Wishbone Brawl started and it was Xander Shaffley and Dean Wilson who beat
Charlie Hoffman and Chris Riley. Dean Wilson and Mike Weir beat Xander and Hoffman in en Jeff Ogilvie and Chris Riley took Xander and Dean too extra holes and on the ninth a thirty three yard part three, Ogilvie ended it with a swish in there was no brawl due to COVID, but in Xander and Dean we're back together again and they beat Fred Couples and Will Crop on the eighteenth hole. All right, so you're up to date. Now back to the first tea and the start of
the Wishbone Brawl. All right, ladies and gentlemen, my name is Matt Janella. Welcome to the fifth annual wish Phone Brawl. And got Hill Park in uh safe to say this golf course was it wasn't doing well and it was being threatened to be taken over, be churned up be turned into something anything other than what it is still today. A big part of the reason why it's still here is because of John Ashworth saying we can't let this happen. We gotta rally of the community. They went to a
city council meeting. They did what they did. They said what they said in this city said fine, you want it, you can have it. John Ashworth went home and said, Honey, I think I bought a zoo in. Uh. They put a new irrigation system in and it's been getting better literally every day ever ever since. People like Bill Murray, Kelly Slater, Keegan Palmer who won the gold medalist. He's gold medalist for men's park skateboarding plays out here a lot.
Christina Kim Kim Say, Heath Thagala, Bubba Watson, corn Ferry to Tour card recipient just recently, Colin Featherstone's in the crowd. Matt Beaconso who has status on the corn Ferry and is trying to get status on the Asian Tour. Matt Peconso plays out here on a regular basis. He's a local. Will Cropp played last year. He holds a course record at ten under with per Simmons All American in Oklahoma. He has a win on the Latin American Tour, Adam Scott.
You know. The list goes on, but none of this happens without the guy who is the leader of this place. Please give a big round of applause and a standing ovation for John Ashley. This is literally this time. We have so many great people involved over yere uh over the years, been amazing at christ Balls called thank peaseball guys showing up and doing I also want to thank our aquinible staff out here. I'm so luck to douce around about so many great people. Last Florence's superintendent, who's
been a thirty five years. You know, in our whole crew a Bernie and Mike is kind of wrong. Boys better take up uh, as well as Hunter and Jane and Time and all shop and outside staff. Thank you. Let's get the kids up front when we can't, okay, so let's all work together on neck. That's all I got. So I'm gonna turn it back up to man. Let's get this show on the boat, John Ashworth. Ladies and gentlemen, all right, our first player of the day, and it's fitting.
But it's a again he's he helped with the vision of this event. He is goats one. He won six times on the Japan Tour, one of which was the two thousand one Japan PG Championship, which is considered a major. He won the two thousand six Sprint International Colorado and recently recently at the Two Shot Charity Classic, he shot weekend rounds of sixties, seven, sixty six for a T three finish three and one at the Wishbone Brawl. Dean Wilson, you know not caddian for Dean is Aiden Watts. He's
a junior at Carl's bat High. He's been two years in this caddy program here at goat Hill Park, first time on Dean's bag. His low round out here is sixty six one over Aiden Watts. Dean's partner in this best ball of the twosome is Xander shop Flee. He is the two thousand sixteen Rookie of the Year. Seven PGA Tour wins, one Olympic gold medalist, shot sixty seven in the on a round. He's been on two winning President's Cups, one Ryder Cup, and he has two wins
at the Wishbone Brawls. Andrews Shopling cadet Fraxander is Kyler Phillips. He is a senior and captain of the Carl's Batt High School boys golf team. He has a four point three g p A. His low round out here is two under sixty three. Kyler Phillips leading the team to here.
UH Masters Champion, fifteen wins on the PGA Tour, inductee into the World Golf Hall of Fame, and about a month ago he shot sixty to win his fourteenth Champions Tour event, the first to shoot his age or better in the final round to win on that tour and the lowest final round and PGA Tour champions history. Fred Couples Keddy and for Fred is really my caddy here whenever I played god Hill Park. She's a junior at Mission Vista, third year in the caddy program. Her low
round is even par. The best reader of the greens in San Diego. Aid a league eight time PG eight Tour winner, which includes three World Golf Championships, a two thousand six US Open at wingfoot. He's played on three President's Cups and in nineteen playing with Chris Riley, switched it on nine for a walk off when welcome back Jeff Vogley. Caddying for Jeff is aids sister twin sister might notice Annabelle Lee, third year also in the program. Her low round is also even par. Here's a special
little story about Annabelle Lee. Last Sunday, god Hill Park hosted what is called the pat Riley Caddy Cup. She was the logro and low net winner on a score of seventy. Uh. Their father is a twenty seven years in the San Diego law enforcement. Please give it up for Annabelle Lee. Now this is the trophy here. Annabelle coming out. Annabelle coming out here real quick. Yeah, So this is the pat Riley h Caddy Cup. A little
bit about pat Riley. Okay, real quick, pat Riley. That trophy is from pat Riley's win in Pennsylvania is a junior event in ninety two, same year the Goat Hill Park was founded. Pat Riley was the six president of the PGA of America, passed away in May of this year.
Known as the voice of the Little Guy, he told Shoal Creek, which was going to host the PGA Championship that year, that either you diversify your membership or we're moving the major championship, shoal Creek folded, signed a paperwork became diversified and uh what was what was considered a watershed moment in golf sort of speaks to all that we are representing a golf for all mentality. So give it up for pat Riley and all that he has
contributions to the game of golf. Pat Riley's son, Rick Riley, who has been the head pro at Wilshire Country Club up in l a for like the last thirty plus years, is here with us. He's been on the bullhorn in the last couple of years. The Riley family mottel, which is a good lesson to all kids and adults in the crowd for that matter. They had three things in the Riley family. Never give up. Jeff, you might want to listen to this because this is this is going
could pertain to you. Never give up, do the best you can, and be nice to the people you meet along the way. And as pat Riley always said, it's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice. With that, we welcome Rick Riley Dazement, who has the kids back from played nine holes back then. But the core to resurrect. It's still here after fifties, and thank you and great to see only kids had here and have a great event like this for the kids. So
thanks you guys, Love you guys. Let's have a great day. Pay well. The standard bearer today is Kennedy Wallace. She is four and she gets to go wherever she wants to go, holding up the school ground of applause for Kennedy Wallace. Welcome to the t Peter the Professor Beams,
who just fresh off writing a book. By the way from the Professor's Notebooks, he played fifteen years on the world tour, and he finished fourth at the South African PGA nineteen seventy in which he received seven hundred and fifty rands, which I'm not sure what that is, but it's not lunching nothing. He is our referee for today. He is going to flip the coins. Xander, come on out, you're gonna call it professor Bean's. Round of applause for the Professor's about half full of bones. Harp is the
call horns is what it came up with. That means couples in ogilvie. You can choose to go first or second. Your call deliberation. Okay, By the way, there's also a simultaneous skins game going on, so it's guaranteed to go. All eighteen holds two thousand dollars per a hole available and that will go also to charity. So you guys are playing for two thousand dollars a whole, leading us off, Jeff Vogeley, let the brawl be get after Ogilvie switched at a nine and walk off. The crowd chanted, oh
gol v oh o vie can we give that off? News? Can we kick it off here with a little oh govie chair, Let's go oh go v oh go vie, Oh go vie. Oh oh okay, oh go man, We're off. I could go no singing yeah, Freddy friend God, what, oh my god? De yellow ball coming, grab my shot? Turn the hall manly nobody USA USA USA plays underway and Xander strikes first with a birdie on the opening hole. A short part four Couples comes back and evens the match with the only par on the testy second and
on the third fairway. I catch up with John Ashworth, who refers to himself as the quote caretaker of goat Hill Park. What do you think ash first impressions match all square. After two we had first blood on wine and then that Freddie comes back and wins two of the part. Yeah no, I mean, kind of what you'd expect, although I will say the crowd has swollen from last year. Kind of cool though, it's kind of cool. This is I mean, it almost feels like double this, Like this
is bigger. This is way bigger. I just hope nobody gets hurt. These guys aren't used to hitting these squirrely percentage that you gotta hit just right, you know. Yeah, it's a golf tournament, you know, got to be mindful. What do you think, Betty, No, this is just to me is like I first of all, I just love being a very small part of it. It just gives you great This is this is our home. This is you know, this is where we It's great to see those guys playing number two like that we always do. Yeah.
I've been right, I've been left. I've been left and scolded over to the right. I haven't hit that green at least two two years the green. Wow. And Fred on the radio said, that's the hardest part. Three California. I think there's a few holes when you chop Cypress, all you think about is the sixteenth T shot. But show up at Sagress, all you think of as a seventeen T shot. At Stating Ques show we go down park, all you think about is your second T shot. That's it.
That's those those shots defying your day. Beautiful shots. We're gonna be Ashworth was right. The drone shots are insane. I should tell you that. At Firepit Collective dot com we have a landing page of all Wishbone content from this year, which includes a digital short of drone highlights. Meanwhile, Shoffly and Ogilvy both birdie the third hole and on the fourth hole, Ogilvy is the only one to make part, which puts Freddie and Jeff one up playing the fifth
I catch up with couples walking off the tea. How are we feeling? We're four holes in a couple of shots to five. Skanked the couple, but my partner's burnie a few so we are had, which is abulous. But the course is great, people are great, and I'm rust that's okay. The the idea that the know this, this is what this is got like. You play a lot of golf, right, You're playing a lot of different events.
You're playing a lot of different There's nothing like this, No, no, And the people to get seven hundred or a thousand people last work makes it really the most fun because they're gonna see some birdies and it's not a long day, um and it's just a it's like a retreat. Just got known. So far, we've played four holes and I've heard you got goaded about six times, me personally, but everybody.
So it's funny. Yeah, No, it's the goat doesn't play favorites right, like everybody is vulnerable though it doesn't know your name's go get him. We're now on the fifth green. Ogilvy has a put for a two from about eight feet. If he makes it, it would be his second birdie of the day. He gets the read from both Aida and Annabelle Lee. All right, I got genius right up? Patrick? There body Dan giving that FUNDI huh yeah, one of two. Shofftly follows Ogilvie's birdie with a two of his own.
Fred and Jeff stay one up as they make their way to the sixth t where with Ben Higgins, co host of Bennon Woods. In Warning three in San Diego, one of my favorite radio people. Also one of my favorite people and usually a guy who play with Alan here at Gotill Park. Wishbone Brawl is in your mind perfect a man, it's perfect. This is awesome in a word. Right, it's a good, beautiful day. The golf is good, just bad enough that I don't feel like the worst golf
of the planet. Yeah. In the second hole when they're going right left, I sad. It makes us feel good about ourselves. Yeah, oh, hang on, goat it again. Goaded again. He said he's played four holes and he's heard the word goading six times. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Spending Woods guys listen in the morning. Couples was the first to tee off on the sixth and yes kicked left toward
the fence, which, as we say, is getting goaded. Dean and Xander even the match at the sixth by both making pars onto the seventh, where Ogilvy has a twenty footer for Bertie to win the whole. After chipping it close, Xander is the only one to Bertie the part four eighth hole, which evens the match yet again, and as the players approached the ninth, t Ashworth gets on the bullhorn to address the crowd for a special presentation. Yeah, we got a good match here going everybody, good match.
I'll square After eight, we got an announcement. A lot of people were here in two thousand ninth with Jeff Dunk Slam dunk today's playoff walk off, and we thought that doesn't happen very often, and we wanted to commemorate that, so we made a little quaque here that we want Jeff to unveil. It's under this little red carp over here. So check it out. Are we ready spading for more on the plaque again? We have a short feature on
the making and unveiling at Firepit Collective dot com. As for the ninth, Dean makes a three to win the tricky little hole, and so as they turned to the tenth, Wilson and shotly take their first lead since the birdie at the first. My next conversations with Will Cropp, who holds the goat Hill Park course record at ten under playing Per Simmons and who partnered with Fred in last year's Wishbone Brawl. Will and his wife Morgan gave birth
to baby Oliver on August nine. The Crops live locally and Will, an all American from Oklahoma, gives lessons to kids and adults at Goat Hill Park. Will we're through nine holes. We got Dean and Xander one up, their two under best Paul. Xander has four birdies, Jeff Ogilvy has three. Bertie's there one under on best ball. I mean it's a pretty even mash. Yeah, yeah, I mean this is the mash that we want. We wanted to be close, but I think the goat showing its teeth.
We've got a little different wind today. It's blowing pretty hard out of the northwest, it looks like, and it's been a I've heard the greens are fast. That's what Dean came by and said. They're rolling out. So I think though this backman, we're gonna see some berties. There's no doubt. I heard double cut, double roll this morning. Fernie and our boys put a little extra sauce. Yeah, they wanted to see. They wanted to test the voice, There's no doubt about that. But I think that this
back nine they're gonna light it up. I was feeling this is it. I think Freddie's about to get up, and I think it's about to get up but then again, I mean, look at the wind, Look at the pin on the leven. The wind is up a little bit to them. There's a fine line of the goat and this has gotten my double in size. Yeah, definitely, definitely. I mean, if you haven't been out here, if you haven't come here, I mean you've got to make it out. You can't put it into words. We can try to
explain it, but not going to do any justice. No, never couldn't be with you. Crop was right. The boys were about to light up the back nine. Wilson and Ogilvie both birdie ten. There were a lot of threes at the testy eleventh, which is known as quote Nemesis. Shoflely and Ogilvie both birdie the part four twelve and the whole is halved with pars on the recently revamped thirteen toll as they played the reachable part four. There
is a four hole carry over on the skins. Wilson and Shoffley are still one up on the way to the green. I get time with Ogilvie. What do you think, Jane, I went through left. You got five birdies on the day. Guys are one down, dodged a little bullet there at Yeah, I'm just widen Freddies lock a back non specialists. I think him to kick get a special good magic. Yeah, it's kind of a thought. It feels good. Oh yeah, it looks looks good. Uh game? How how much the
crowded um? What's unbelievable? This is unbelievable. What of tape like this should be to a golf We should play in this atmosphere and this is this is as this is the way it should be. No ropes, dogs, kids up front, like priority on like that to me is what it grows the game? Well, we know, we know because we know this net actual feels like it feels like ocean side golfers coming out into a golf and they applight. Yeah, feels like it's like we open our
home to major champion when he's gold medal went. Like people who who you know, grew up in municipal golf who appreciate the home. Like you walk into somebody's home and you say, oh, you have a lovely home. You know that's it's just coming courtesy and appreciation for other
people's whereabouts. It's perfect. This this is actually exactly how golf should be and and do you kind of pull off of some of this stuff for the sand Belty is you're building out what you're building out in your home and we have nice robs and we have everybody out there. Like golf. What's your golf from behind? This? How much better than watching golf from the sod? Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah. And when you're on the families you get to watch golf from behind. Yeah. Right, the old
Hogan shot right at Marian. That's that's the that's view that you want to watch golf from right to the big sides and might go on to ramon grains like Catty shack on the right. Good, all right, finished strong here, let's go. We gotta and before the results of the fourteenth hole. Another quick conversation with a notable member of
the gallery. But Jamie Mulligan obviously works very closely with Patrick cant Lane, but also spends a lot of time with Andrew Shoff that you guys are under the hoods with, you know, two of the best players in the world. Obviously an event like this, what's this, what's this? What's this mean to you? So much? And that's talking to Fred during his warm out this morning, like We drew up at Paula golf courses. My parents used to drop me off at the Heldorado and wrecked parking Rombach a
monthly ticket, very smart by them, cheap baby sitting. But you know, I get to go in a swanky world and how to Zander and Fred and these players. You get to see all these cool country clubs. But at heart, we're all kind of public off people. And I'm really proud of what John's done here on an amazing vision, Dean's Investment Care. You're dealing this, It's cool. And if there's anything that we can never do to he isn't
that kind of what it's all about, right? That whole give back, pay it forward, grow the game, no ropes, put a premium on kids access, you know, value all of it, experience, right, Well, life is about doing, not saying, you know, and I think not that you social many would be great to promote this, but I love the idea that we're getting to make this beautiful game that's been really good to us for so long better by doing stuff like this. And I'm really proud of these guys.
I've known him, you know, Fred, and I even know John for I hate to say it, you know, over four decades and it's a long time. That's amazing. And like you say, it's about doing that saying. And John's a guy out here with the rakes, with the shovels, building the bunkers, changing the team like he's leading by example. Yeah, most people, we all say this a preach excellence and
practice mediocrity. You know, he's a low key, chilled guy that's not acting like he's kind of doing a thing of excellence and everything thing he's going to excellence and quiet by himself and knocked the thing out. And it was cool to hear about his vision about the same before whatever happened. And every time I get a chance to stop by and look at it, um, I love it.
Last thing that is kind of funny is he was asking me today because you've played the course since we've redone, and I said, out with golf clubs, I played first peak golfair with a beer, which is what Another cool aspect of all is it that you can go out and play this for fifteen bucks as a disc golfe Jamie,
appreciate you man, Thank you, Thank you. Fred and Jeff both make Birdie on the short fot Dean and Zander both make pars and so for the fourth time in fourteen holes, the match goes from one up to all square after they all ripped drivers on the par five. I catch up with Xander as we walk to their approach shots. How are you feeling? But is this exceeding expectations again? Always every year? Right Then't that crazy pro golf with all the bullshittery that's happening and all the craziness,
This at the core is what it's all about. Right now? We still have this right right kind of all the things you play and all the access you've had, all the big events, isn't this set you know? This is its purest form? Yeah, I mean I pretty much I feel like I pretty much do what I what I want to do. And you know, if I really didn't want to play this, I just would not playing it,
you know. So I really I really enjoyed playing in this and honestly look forward to every year on the calendar, so, you know, and with people kind of committing like you know, Fred got everyone excited for this year committing last year that was big for us. It's just it's just a really special thing for me. And yeah, I can't believe
it's already been five years. Now. Does it feel like you're kind of coming home when you come to something like this, this is a connection to the beginning, Yeah, I think so, I mean brings you, brings you back, um and in the best way possible. Yeah. And the kids, right, like all that's happening right, I mean, from the first year to now, there's way more kids, which is great,
more doggs, which I love as well. And do you remember do you remember an experience as a kid for you when you like got access to like maybe farm. I mean you you told us a story about how you watch Tiger played two thousand U s hoping as a kid. Are there some things that kind of relate to I mean, just everyone's so relaxed and you never have to worry about sort of anyone really, you know, overstepping from a from from our standpoint, which is which
is really cool. Um, everyone just kind of gets it, you know what I mean, No one's really like hounding yet do you do anything? And of course Fred Jeff, do you know? And I would love to sign everyone's stuff, which is what kind of what's happening organically throughout the day. So the whole the whole field just kind of just continues to just you know, flow through this whole property. So it's it's awesome. It's a beautiful thing, it really is.
Keep it going, finish strong. We need some meats, some juice here for anyone who's listening and knows the goat the fifty, especially for the pros, and regardless of the fact that they're playing per Simmons, they're all gunning for the green and two. It was Zander who was pin high right, and he'd be chipping from the fringe while he waited for the other players to chip and put up, he was approached by two little girls from the crowd who wanted to offer him a friendship bracelet. Shoftly, of
course obliged, and what transpired was something special. We have a separate video on this specific moment again on our website, social channels and our fire Upit collective YouTube channel, but I'll also let you listen in here. No surprise, he gets some lucky friendship bracelets. He chips in for Eagle
and Wilson. Shoftly take a one up lead headed into the par four six, the number one handicap hole on the course, they have that hole with Pars and after they all hit ta shots on the five yard, it's Fred Couples who puts first. The fun detail here is that Fred finds himself in that same spot where Will Cropp needed to make a birdie at the Wishbone Brawl last year, almost the same exact pin placement, same caddies providing the read. It's twenty five ft ish straight uphill
with some break left to right. Again. Couples in Ogilvie are one down and need to secure a two to guarantee the match goes to the for is over his pot. Crop is in the crowd. Couples makes the plot, crowd goes wild. He high fives Ogilvie and then meets Crop in the middle of the green for a chess bump, and then Wilson steps up and proceeds to douse any ideas of a comeback by making yet another clutch pot
a two of his own, and the score remains. Wilson and Shoffly one up, heading to after they all hit t shots up and around the green to the very reachable Part four. I walk with Stefan shof Ley, Xander's dad who's enjoying a cigar and the golf with a few of his friends. And this is what it's all about, right, Shrink it down, make it simple that it wasn't like in the twenties. I guess remember those old videos when
they were diving for the balls in the hall. Unlike you, Stefan, I don't remember the ts what I mean, like I saw the videos, but I mean there's something to be said for that, like getting back to the basics. Golf courses, no ropes. Kids are freemans, like in a priority, Like, isn't that what it's talking about? Yeah, it's real, it's really I mean, in one word, if I would have to sum it up in one word, it's it's really. Yeah. Someone else said perfect, Fine, that works too. I mean
I was part of you. Proud of Xander for sort of staying close to sort of home and the roots and giving back and being a part of something that is so influential on so many people. Yes, certainly that's part of it. But I think the boys are having a lot of fun too, you know, It's it's just something you don't ever get to do. They still don't. They don't like to lose, as they can see that the competitiveness is right there, and I think they're having a lot of fun. I mean, that's why Freddie is here.
It's loving it. And you can watch the evolution right and David and John and all that they've put into this. This is this is the good stuff. It's great. I think this. We have to limit the tickets the next few years even more. Thank you so much, Thank you. I appreciate it, and thanks for always making services always happen. Thank Now we're at the eighteenth green. Fred chips his past the whole by about fifteen feet. Wilson chips on and has about five ft for Birdie. Zander chips close
and has a very short put for Birdie. He's within four feet, but there's some break to it. Ogilvy has a chipped from just off the front edge of the green and it's for Eagle. If he makes it, he forces extra holes. Ogilvie's chip hits and rattles depend and stays on the edge of the cup. We can't believe our eyes. It seems crazy. It didn't drop. It's a gimme three. And now Wilson and Shotley have to make their Birdie puts to end the match, Wilson puts first. Yeah,
and that was it. Wilson makes it. Wishbone Brawl five is in the books. We end the podcast with some post round reflections from the players. Team d Zander aid under Jeff Freddie seven under on best ball, Jeff, you gave it everything you got. Why had a good chip there? I thought, yeah, well pretty good, pretty good. Now it looks so much fun. I mean, what a what a time. I mean, this is truly community golf at its best.
I mean, this is good players trying to help out sort of everybody at one of the coolest places in the world. I mean, what else can you say? This is like I just do this is this is as much fun as we have. It's golfers. I mean, we have a miserable existence sometimes. I mean it's like it looks so dreamy, but it can be a bit of a grind. But this is exactly what we do it for. And this is as much fun as I've ever had playing golf. So you were just staying on a podcast
last night. There's a lot of lonely nights. There's a lot of lonely days as a professional golfer. You're traveling you're grinding, you're you know, sometimes the score uh can impact what you think of yourself as a person. And you come out of something like this, a community like this, does this kind of story restore your faith and what the game is all about. I always had faith. I mean, the game is always there. The game is bigger than all of us clowns who play it for a living.
Um yeah, this this is just what it's all about. I mean, it's as I says, community getting together. It's it's all inclusive. It's golf is actually meant to be fun. It's not meant to be a ground. It's not to be too too hard. Um yeah, I don't know what else to say. I mean, this place sums up everything. If everyone in the world did what Goad Hill does with golf, golf would just be like Jeff og will
be is flying out tonight back to Australia. Big round of applause for him making the effort and being here and being a part of what's going on here. Jeff Ogi, how about Ada and Annabelle By the way, the best caddies out here by a long stretch. If anybody wants to come out here and like work out how to put out here these two there your girls, Freddie, I
mean hard fought battle, came down to the end. Make that put on seventeen, Jeff, you know breaks the Flag on eighteen was an incredible display of of the good stuff. Right well, yeah, I would like to say, first of all, Jeff said a lot of great things, but I I want to say real quick, all the people who came out, the thousand people, it means a lot to us to play in front of a big crowd from the Champions Tour.
This is like a major. So but a second I want I want you all to realize Mr Ogilvie, who was my partner, who I let down a little bit or a lot, you buried three out of like saw Australia to go home tonight. So I just want to say, you know, when when people say, like my favorite tour stop is Riviera, everyone kind of knows that. But when we sit here and we say how important go to Hill Go Hill is, we're not just saying it because
we're here. It's a hell of a spot. And I'll finish by saying, I know John Ashworth forever and he doesn't do anything second class us and he's done a hell of a job here and I really really really want to thank everybody, but for coming out watching last last year. He grabbed the bullhorn. You said, you know Aida and Annabel two of the best of caddies in San Diego. I think you can probably reaffirm that. No,
they're they're they're my two favorite. Um. I haven't seen him in a year, one of my buddies, Jamie Mulligan. I think we're going to try and get him the coming Big Canyon or or Virginia. We said that last year. It was difficult, but these two right here, they had great caddies too. I don't know him very well, but Jeff and I the two twin sisters are very special to me. They're just incredible young girl guys. Fred Couples of Si Zander. I mean again, we were talking a
couple of holes ago. How this continues to exceed expectations, which is that's saying something right, because every year it kind of gets a little bit better, a little bit sweeter, a little bit more, a little more kids involved, a little more dogs, just keeps going right. I mean, how do you how do you summarize this? Yeah, I mean I was walking down was talking to Kyler my caddy and I saw a baby, you know, going through the moguls and the stroller. I saw like ten dogs, kids running,
saw parents chasing kids, a drone flying around. Um, these boys with us. So it's uh, it is so hard to sort of keep it, keep this feel, um, and you guys have just managed to do it. Kyler and Aiden. Let's talk about their efforts and and the fact that you're able to spend time with kids and that kind of mentorship and the and the the impact you could
have on kids like this. Yeah, that's awesome. It's definitely an important thing to our irresponsibility that we all have to get back and um, this is just a small part of it. And to John Ashworth, he's a man where where where as Yeah, I mean he's just sort of our quiet hero out here. You know. Um we're in the spotlight and he's just roaming around in the back. So, um, we know how important he is. Everyone out here should know how important he is. Without him, this one't all
be here. So thanks to him, Xander shop thing guys. Dean Wilson goes to four and one at the wish phone four and one. It's the goat of the goat, you aced the fit, you rattle at home, you see you the deal here on eighteen. Just just summarize an event like this, I mean, what can I say? Honestly? Um, just coming out here and being able to share this with not only with everyone, but just to play with Xander, Freddie and Jeff. I mean, it's a it's a dream
come true for anybody. And just to do it at our home at gold Hill Park in front of all these people, and everybody's having a great time. And I just want to echo everything that they said. I love the dogs, I love the babies. I love the noise. It's awesome. It's it's what golf should be and it should be fun and enjoyable. Dean Wilson, guys, Dean Wilson's here. Let's go, guys. One more round of applause for not only the players, but for John Ashwood. What a great day.
Thanks everybody for coming out. It does get better and better every year. And uh it's because of these guys right here. I mean, God, they take their time out of the you know, they do it the kindness of their heart and their soul. And uh, anyway, thank you so much. And hey, let's present the Wishbone. So the Wishbone. I got a little something to say. Oh yeah, So Dean Birdie's three out of the last four. Xander makes
six birdies and an eagle. They're eight under combined. The winner of the Wishbone Brawl, Dean Wilson and Xander shoffer one final reminder. To support this event and to specific causes that go directly to junior golf, please go to link soul dot com forward slash Wishbone and either donate directly or bid on one of the ninety four items available in the on line auction. Bidding ends on December five at eight pm Pacific Standard time, and if not before then, I hope to see you out at the
Goat for Wishbone Brawl six next November. Put another log on the fire. Nobody here is get the time
