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Everything about RainDance National, a new golf course in Northern Colorado, is BIG, except for the guy who helped design it and the odds that it won’t hit. 

 It’s big news that there’s a new golf course being built. According to the National Golf Foundation, there were only 18 new ones in 2019, and some of those were only nine holes. The number on the RainDance National scorecard, from the back tees, will be over 8,400 yards, which will make it one of the biggest and longest in the country. The 1,000-year-old arroyos that the course is built around are big. The mountains that surround the course are even bigger. The landing areas, greens and expectations for the finished product are also all big. And then there’s Fred Funk, one of the littlest and shortest hitters in professional golf, who’s the co-designer of RainDance National. Nothing is bigger than his smile as he walks the routing and talks about how much fun he has had getting the opportunity to break into the business of course design. Funk, who won the 2005 Players Championship, is quick to point out that at an elevation of 5,000-feet, with most holes playing downhill and with the ideal playing conditions being hard and fast, the length could be deceiving. 

In this episode of the Fire Pit, while sitting around a fire overlooking the arroyos, you’ll hear from Funk, Harrison Minchew, Funk’s co-designer who spent most of his career working for Arnold Palmer Design, and Martin Lind, the third-generation farmer who finally pulled the trigger on a project he’s been sitting on for over a decade. 

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The land as you're going to see as the sun bowls today, you'll see that this property dictated what the golf course is gonna be, and it needed to be big, almosts and two holes back to back. That's large, of course. Fred Funk eats up two holes in twelve yards. Put another log on the fire and nobody hears. Get the

time Welcome to the fire pit. With Matt Chanella, ed C was a golf course architect responsible for almost three hundred designs and renovations, most of which were in partnership with Arnold Palmer, who see started working with in v two. Courses like Tralee and the K Club in Ireland, Avillara and Carl's bat The Tradition in Laquinta, Sawgrass Country Club in Pontevedra Beach and Bay Hill in Orlando are a

few of his most notable projects. Ed C, a past president of the American Society of Golf Course Architects, died in two thousand seven at the age of sixty nine. I've worked with his son, Mason C on several stories during my eight years at the Golf Channel, where Mason often freelanced as a producer on projects such as the story on Gil Hants building the Olympic Course in Rio. Mason and I share a love and passion for golf course architects and architecture and the stories behind the designs.

Mason will be a regular contributor to the fire Pit Collective, and he starts with the story on rain Dance National in Windsor, Colorado, a Fred Funk and Harrison Minshew design. Funk is the winner of eight PGA Tour events, including the two thousand five Players Championship, and has won nine times on the champions Tour. This is his first opportunity design and build his own course. Minshew worked with Ed c and Arnold Palmer until he broke out on his

own in two thousand eight. The course they're building is for Martin Lynde, a successful developer in northern Colorado. I met up with all of the above earlier this year to tour the land, walk the course as it was being finished, and to record this podcast on how it all came together. But before we get to that story, I just want to thank our friends at Link Soul

for their support of the fire Pit. John Ashworth and Jeff Cunningham have created so much more than just a lifestyle brand that I live in both on and off the golf course. Links Soul is a lifestyle that permeates out of goad Hill Park where they've helped cultivate a course, a culture, and a community vibe that's become a blueprint for what's possible at a municipality. For discount on your next purchase at links soul dot com, use promo code fire pit And now sitting around a fire pit with

Funk Minshew in Lynde overlooking what they've created. This is a story of rain Dance National. At some point in your life, you acquired this property and there was thought that there would be golf here, right, So as a kid, we would come up here and trespass and slat up and down on the hills. And then my dad, who's ninety years old and God blessing me still alive, tell stories of how he had to walk these arroyas from

Windsor back to his house. So it's been part of property we've known, but we never owned it until the uh maybe two thousand two. But we really really didn't have a purpose because it's not really a place where you could graze cattle. It's pretty steep, and it has this kind of a mystique about it where it's arid and dry and crisp in the dry ears, and then it's like this in the white ears and it's just magnificent and trying to fare out what to do with it.

So when we got it acquired, I always felt that we should preserve it because anytimes you see homes on a hill, because we're land developers and we put homes on property, but we try to be unique. But when you see homes on the hill kind of scars the hill. It doesn't look good. So we want to preserve it and thought about putting a golf course on it. And we're really just in the conceptual stages of it when I met Fred, and how did that happened? So luckily

I was going broke fast. If you're gonna go broke, go broke fast, don't. It's a painful, cancrous thing. You just want to go fast, right, But I was. It was oh eight o nine and I was going broke so fast and you couldn't borrow it, right, right, yeah? And I was. I had one of my best friends from high school was a chief pilot. We had a flight department. We had to sell the jazz because you can't get four barons agreements from banks when you have

jets and boats. So were we were throwing everything off the Queen Mary, trying to keep it floating, and and uh so Craig, my my pilot, said, hey, I asked him to try to find somebody that would trade a jet for land, because I couldn't borrow anything on land, but at the time you could borrow on a jet. So I was just trying to survive. And he said, I've got this guy has a black lear and the end numbers are Foxtrot Foxtrot, so he goes he might

want to trade. One ends up being Fred Fonk. And the only thing worse than having the land development going broke in the late two thousand eight nine would be trying to go hang onto a jet and go from the regular tour to the Champion tour. So yes, exactly. So now we call it the two dead dogs for a dead cat trade. So we're just trying to get rid of stuff that didn't work for us. And about two hours into this tour, Fred flew up to be

with me. In about two hours into it, he really didn't see anything I had that was very attractive to him, and it just wasn't gonna workcake Ud Perkins out. Yeah, but then you would have had all you would have had all the good PGA tour players over there, waitresses, Tiger would have been there. Hey, you're Mike up Fred. So so we're just having kind of a hoot, kind of like this. And I'd only known Fred an hour and we're driving around and I said, Fred, have you

ever designed a course? And he goes, oh god, it talking my bucket list. I would love to do that, but that's a pedigree that I'm never going to be there and that that's kind of gone. And at this time golf courses were starting to not be developed anymore. So we drove up here, about half a mile over there, and it's a friend, look at this. This would be a great golf course, and he goes, oh, man, this

would be fun. So it wasn't. It wasn't six months and he had gone back and called me and said, my next door neighbor, Harrison has been with Palmer and they're not building anymore, so I want to bring him out. And it was just a hoot and they just woom boom boom, and then of course the recession. Okay, hold on, hold, let me stop you right there, let me stop you here there, because I'm gonna go back out and get so. So, Fred, how do you remember this story where you're coming in,

You're you're trading a plane what like? What? Yeah, we had a letter thirty one that we were trying to get rid of, and uh, I just wasn't making the money. I couldn't justify the cost of that thing, the annual cost of that thing. So came out here to see what he had to offer. And we're driving around everything we're I could have had a residential land, I could add industrial land. I could add a Perkin's pancake house. Uh. Like you know, I really don't want to and I

really need money. I need cash and uh. And then he drives up on the hill. It was actually right off the top here, and you could see down this and not really see the the roy is the way you see him from the bottom, but I could see there was something and out of nowhere he says, Hey, Fred, I want you to design your first signature of Fred punk golf course. I go what I said. We just

met like two and a half hours ago. He said, yeah, but you know whatever, and I'm thinking he's blown smoke and two and a half hours that was only like a twelve pack into the deal. Yeah, that's right, that's right. So then we go and where, I mean, where are you serious? I mean, were you just messing around? No? Because because within two hours of being with Fred is about all you know you need to know about him. You just you just got this magnetic fun about him.

And I said, and that's kind of what I like to have as a lot of fun in life. And so Fred, do this golf course? Just do it? Yeah. We we went down to his office and he broke out the topo map and it said rain Dance on the top and I said, what does that? He said, that's the land that we're just on. I go, no kidding, I said, well, that's the name of the golf course. We ever do this? And sure enough it is? And uh and I'm not that familiar at that time in my life of reading topos, but I could see there

were some big elevation changes in these erosion ditches. And I said, we got to go back and look at it from the bottom, and we did, and that's when you can see it all that from looking up into it, and that's unbelievable. And at the time I didn't think, can you really build a golf course on it? But I went and walked the land. I went home. I came back soon after and I walked the land and this is unbelievable. And then I went back home again

to Ponto Adrian. I showed Harrison the topo map and he just studied it for about ten minutes, dead silent, and he's never quiet either, and uh, and he just looks up and he goes, this is really magnificent. What did he really say? Hey said, this is fucking awesome. And so he said, So we we flew out and and uh, he saw it, and we started working on a routing and it kind of really the front nine I routed itself once we decided where we were going to start. Hold on one second, now, so what what

what what's your recollection of? Like seriously, like, what's your relationship with Fred Funk? And then and then he shows you this topo map? So Fred wins what two or f tpc? Yeah, And so you know we're our office is like a mile and a half from the golf course from Sagress TPC and Players Club, and he he interested in golf architecture. So he called the office up and he wanted to have, you know, come and see what we did that year that he won the Players.

That year that he won the Players, he won the players went in March, and you came there like in May or something. And actually I just had a coldon Osbie the morning speaking because you can't have fun without it, because the doctor, the doctor said you need to go home and lay down. Of course I didn't do it. Fred's coming to the office. I wanted to hear what he had to say and show him around and all that. So so I did that, and then we met again through a mutual friend and I said, Fred, I'm going

out on my own. I love to work with you. And then about a year and a half later he had this deal. He said, Harrison, he called me up. He called Gary verbal or mutual friends said what was Harrison's phone number? Again, I think I got something. So he called me up and told me about the property and said we'll get a topo and so I can see what what the owner has. And Martin sent him a topo and he came by and he showed me. I go, you gotta be kidding me, because it was obvious.

I mean, that's what I do. I do topo maps. I've been doing it for you know, thirty years. And and then when I got I said, we gotta go look at this. I said, let me do a routing and getting mistake it, and let's go take a look at it. And we came out here and I just go, Fred, this is unbelievable. And then so we're chomping at the bit for my freaking decade. And I mean Martin kept saying, we'll do I'll do it when it's the right time.

I got it's got it. It's the timing thing. And this is all based on sort of where the property, the real estate stuff is was economy, some of it was lending ability, some of it was my own portfolio. Had to get way to get a lot of stuff finished up that was just a mess. So I had to get that done. And and yeah, you know, Fred and now are chopping at the bit and we said, is he really going to do this? I think there was three years where they thought it was just not

a freaking prayer. And then you've been here a bunch, you had done a routing, you'd walked to the land. Yeah, you're waiting. Yeah, and then and then he then he um, Martin gets the old companies who come and and locate some drill sites. And it was a drill side on number one, and that obviously went away, but they moved it over where they original driving range was. And then he had another company and whatever, and obviously they helped fund the golf course. And so Martin said, well, they're

gonna put this big pipeline through the golf course. You might want to do the grading plan for the back nine. And I said, sure, of course, I mean I wanted to do something. And we did that and they built it, and then we waited some more, and you know, and then I knew they were doing the development because you know, I saw the land plans and all the all the you know, the marketing and their concepts and that sort of thing. I said, that's cool, and so we kept going and then Fred and I said it is he

really gonna do it? Fred? Because we were just so anxious, and you know, the whole market was just nothing there. And so we kind of came out here last August and we you know, he had to do he was grading these first Moore holes and they had to do put some grass on the ground and whatever. And and then I got round up with con here and we had to you know, we wanted to do part of it then, so I kind of talked him into doing and I said, you know, we could probably deal without irrigation,

and Jeff or the superintendent, that better irrigated. And then and then I said, well, well, well we can put some permanent irrogation in. And then the HTP pipe was you know, all time, right down that drawer right there right now. See him, Yeah, wow, look at him. He's got about a seven foot wingspan. Uh huh. So anyway, finally it was Martin pulled the trigger. And it's been frigging balls to the wall ever since. And I wait, wait, wait,

let's go. What happened? It was like wait, wait, wait, hurry, hurry, hurry. You know, Martin, Harry said, when he starts, we're gonna have it to finish. We're not going to just starting, not finish this thing. So when he pulled the trigger, the bullet was out and it kept on going and we'd never stopped. So and that last fall. When Randall and Harrison got together and gave me the preliminary budget, I said, okay, let's go, let's do it. And then I got their first change order and I haven't needed

colonoscopy since I didn't ever say that, Garrett. So so obviously you guys bring I mean, you guys bring three

different perspectives here. So you've got the grizzle, grizzled veteran who has done and seen it all and it's been waiting for this kind of opportunity for for your whole life, right, I mean, this is absolutely this is you know, at one point in your career you were working with a firm that had seventy courses on the books in a year, and now you're down to sort of the idea of quality, you know, one course at a time, spending your living here and running this whole project. I mean it's I mean,

that's what I always wanted to do. I mean, you know, I'm from August of Golf is in my DNA, and obviously there's a good golf course there, or a couple of them anyway, or maybe more, but there's one that's on TV a lot, and you know, I thought all golf tournaments were like that until I went out someplace else to see another golf course and I got another golf tournament. But I was just it was I was just kind of force fit, and that was just the

industry back then. And I always wanted to do this, and Martin said yes, and I go wow, and I said and so for me to be here every day made it possible for Rand to have a sign off so he can go to the next step, next step, next step. And from a creative standpoint, working with somebody that really knows how to build a golf course and really really great shapers to go through the process like that and to be on site is just the most exhilarating creative thing that a golf architect can do. Dream

come true for you. And meanwhile, for you, this was this was a bucket list scenario. You know, you've been watching and looking and playing all these golf courses. There's been a lot of players that have gone on to do golf course architecture. This obviously was of interest to you.

This is this is a dream come true for you too. Absolutely, I never thought I'd have this opportunity, but to actually have input on a piece of land like this is incredible to have my first project, hopefully not my last, and I don't think it will be after we it on the map on this golf course. But this is so much fun. I had no idea how much fun

it is. And I gotta say that a lot of that is the team and the attitude and the personalities that are all involved with this project, starting with Martin. Martin has created this whole area, all the people that work for Martin, all the people that live in his communities. It seems to be a super high energy, a lot of love of the land, the love of family, love

of things to do, and Martin has created this. And when you go down to Pelican Lakes, which will be the sister golf course of this um that's been here since n and the the attitudes and the energy down at that golf course is incredible. It's already there and everybody is super excited about what this is going to be and and have this in their backyard as well. But the team that we brought in, UM, Harris and

I are working together awesome. Uh. This whole project of going from the initial stages, the three of us have walked this property. I don't know how many times together, and we've all had all the different inputs, no egos. It's all about this wouldn't be this would be great, this doesn't work, it doesn't really matter. We just have done things, changed things. Everybody has had a lot of

input and that's been great. And then we have Randall and Rocky are in here, the Shapers are I've never seen shapers do what they do with super heavy equipment and be that meticulous and that exacting with the dirt that they moved with these awesome machines, and uh, what this thing has turned into. So it's it's been not only a dream come true, but something that's way beyond I ever thought how much fun it would be to do.

And every time I come out here, I can't wait to get out here, and I love being out here. It's changed dramatically every single time I've come out here, and uh, it's a amazing. It's going to be very very special. What is it about your vision and your energy and your passion that is about not just building homes. You're obviously building communities, You're building this culture, You're building you know, play ground, you know what what is at at the base of your vision. So I didn't grow

up golfer. I never held a club until I was thirties, so in my game pretty much reflects that. Now. All right, I'm a terrible golfer. So you want of the mansaying the other. You can't afford to lose second places, first loser, Harrison, And I'm quite a competitor too. But you know, family lifestyle, having a place where people can live, work and play all without getting back in the car, that's super important. So that's what we did at Water Valley. We manifested

it up here in the rain Dance. We've got about four thousand acres now that, by the grace of God, we just kept acquiring. When we're doing good. Back in

the early two thousands, I didn't go by Ferraris. I put a deposit on the next farm and we just kept We have this thing going, and we have families that are immersed about golf, and if you go down to Pelican Lkes right now, there's thousands of kids on that golf course, and so we wanted to have something up here that would make sure the families are really respected and that the golf was fun and fair. And you can't get anybody more fun or fairer than Fred right,

and I thought the same Harrison and Randalls. I got that first change order, and then I'm just kidding so that. But but the kind of the thing you'll find about our golf courses that's very unique is and it helps us with what we're doing. When Fred said this is fun is there's no civil engineering down there. We don't have to We don't have to every time we make a change. We can just let the land dictate the change. We don't have to worry about a street next to it,

a sewer line that's in the way. Because there's not a single home on this golf course, there's kind of a moat around it up on Holds one, two and three where there are homes. Um, there's only sixty lots on the entire golf course, but yet there's hundred lots in rainows. So it gives us the latitude to when the land says, hey do this, I mean we've we've had a green down there that we lowered fifteen feet. There's a lot of dirt. I think we've lowered about

fifteen ft. We've we've flipped Part three's left or right right to left and we don't have to ask anybody but ourselves to on in the land. And it's been a really fun experience and it really has been the carbon. Moving the dirts the fun stage. For me, that's the fun part because that's when you really make the permanence in the deal. You can change grass, you can change sprinklers, but once you move the dirt, it's there, and that's

it's just been a riot build with missing. Four hundred yards is a number that I that I heard at one point. What's what is the what's the goal? What's your what's your ambition to? Uh, yes, have people that obviously live, work and play here be out here, but what is the what's your ultimate dream? So obviously Fred's been on the tour long enough to where he knows, of course, all of the things that it takes to

make a course tour quality. But the new pedigree of golfers like his son Taylor are hitting at a hundred yards further, and so it isn't just as easy as stretching the tea box back somewhere into the woods. That's that's not how it works. You. It has to have fairway length, that has to have all of these other things, and we were up about yards, I think, and I don't know what happened, but I was on the internet looking at the top ten longest golf courses in the world,

and I go, well, there's free marketing. Let's hit at least number nine, right, So what we gotta add? And we had to add about eighty yards I think at the time. I said, surly, you can find eight yards and then it just starts playing out. It was fun because Fred was insecure about that. You were like, hey, listen,

that's we're not That's not what I'm about. I'm about having the greatest golf course at you hired Fred, right, but you know Fred could play for three days and Harrison said, I'm a little bitter about these long hid Okay, you're a better little man. I'm gonna pay them back,

and they're gonna run hard and fast, right right. Actually it was gonna play honestly too short at um the way we're gonna have it, with the fescue fast British style fairways, with the downhill with elevation and an example, I always looked at our fourth and fifth holes are now on the card at the longest length or nine part four's and I was thinking that these guys at that length Rory McElroy would hit an eight or nine iron into those holes under normal conditions, under calm condition,

And that's just the length we eat it. If we didn't have that length and back the teas up on those two holes, they would probably not have to hit a driver to hit a wedge in because they're gonna get four plus drives on some of these downhill holes. So we were trying to protect that and at the same time not ruin the holes by going that length. And also it's only for the best of the best. If we ever have a tournament here, we have the

length to test those guys. Now that we have four four other sets of teas and the women's teas are all the way up to what Harrison. Uh, they're probably five thousand yards at the elevation, which is you know, it might even be a little bit shorter, to tell the truth. I mean, somebody say it's gonna be long for somebody, I mean it really would be. I mean for a kid, or for a woman, or or or a senior or whatever. I mean, you want to have an event here, I do. Yeah, Yeah, that's part of

the that's part of the vision. I I don't think there's any reason in the world that would stop us from having an event here. I can't think of one. This in the Denver metro market. I mean, they traditionally have had huge events here, like the US Open. This is crazy, but we're sitting on a fire pad and you literally cannot see a house from overset. You can see one a couple of miles down in the valley down there, but you might as well be in the

middle of a prairie in the middle of Nebraska. Right It's but there's one million people live within thirty five minutes of right here. So even though we're in the donut hole of calmness and serenity right here, there's a million people that live within a thirty minute draft. There's no question that we can't get the sponsorship to bring a major here. There's no question, And if we have to,

we'll just have red funded. We're talking about getting a Champions Store event here as early as twenty three, maybe twenty four if we have to go that late. But do you know against spell fund without fund, Yeah, it's true, you can, but I would I would personally like to see the Colorado Golf Association if you're out there listening, this would be a great venue for the Colorado Open for having an annual event. And I think it would be fantastic. You set the course up properly and allow

allow him to have a good tournament. But still the number one goal, and I said this earlier with you during the day that I want. I want the guys that the men and women that come and play this golf course and the families that come out when they walk off eighteen, they can't wait to do it again. So they just said that was a blast, unbelievable experience. I gotta do it again. And if we can create that when they walk off this golf course, we want, we want a job. We've done the job we want.

I don't want to beat him up. The golf course is going to be difficult, but I think fair, um so and beautiful. It'll be a good test for the best and fun for the average is what my goal and and dream would be. Everybody can enjoy this golf course, good tests for the best and fun for the rest. That's very good, very good. It'll be an experience and it will be a fun experience. And that you know, you could play a golf course will be fun and want to come back, but to experience the whole place

is is is really really going to be special? Well, I think the consumer now is is spoiled in the sense that you know, you know, we have a lot of options in the world of golf now. There's they're that's they're they're happening all over the place. So if you can have unique and quality experience, then you know, then that's going to get people wanting to come back. So, but this is not only going to be a golf course, it's it's growing into a much bigger entity than just golf.

And uh you can we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna lean our companies out of land development into resort development, and we're gonna have a lot of corporate retreating and overnights day we're doing a lot of hospitality and rain dance and down in Water Valley right now. But it's also a kid's hill over where the driving range was

going to be. We're always going to combine it with snowmaking in the winter and we've tested it and we it works, and so we're gonna have Bunny hills and you know, learned to ski, learned to snowboard, all that stuff. Over there, We're gonna have an alpine slide in the summer. We've got about two d and fifty ft of vertical fall um amphitheaters, so it's gonna be an activity. We feel that that eight acres over on the other side of the clubhouse where the driving range was going to be,

is going to be an antill summer winner. It's gonna be always busy, so it's going to be quite a place. I think obviously that the trend has become even at places like pineers or bandoned dunes, is to uh, you know, diversify the portfolio of what's being offered. So it's not just like, oh, here's eighteen hole championship golf. You're obviously doing a lot of different things here. This truly is

the development of something more than golf. This is a community and something for everyone, including the idea of a horse course. Right. We ended up with this just amazing triangle between one, two and nine, and we were trying to think what to do with it, and some of us have gone up to Nebraska and played the horse course. Um, what's the name of that place, Prairie Cloud. That's right, yep.

And it's just a hoot. You know, you finished eighteen, You grab a few bears, you go out there with your wedge and your putter and you just play a little over there over there, and and it's just a hoot. But for having the ability to not be pushed into nine holes or eightean holes, but to just come enjoy the property and just go pitch and put and drink a pop, drink a beer, drink water, and just have that time to learn to have our pros teaching a lot of kids. They could they could teach a hundred

kids out there at the same time. That's how big it is. And so bringing that kind of stuff. When you have a resort event and you go out there and you make a contest out of it, they'll have more fun doing that contest and they will play in the eighteen tournament they played that day. So we're just really excited about that. We need to come up with a name on it yet. And then uh with we

were talking about the vistas earlier. We actually had the architects for the clubhouse and all the resort we're doing on the hill and I'm never in my life done this, but you always raise the land to get a better view. So where's the finished floor of that building or where's the second floor of that house to get that better view.

And we're actually lowering the land and lowering the footprint on the convention center because by lowering it about three ft where the the topography of the horse course and whole number two is, you won't see a house. All

you see is the mountains. So by by changing the angle, and it was kind of it was kind of odd because you never, you know, in Colorado, you always lift up so you can see over, and this one we're actually gonna set it down so that the artificial horizon that our golf course is created blocks any artificial structure and all you see is mother nature. Can you block the planes from flying over during an interviewer that might have been friends? Yet? That's about what it would sound like.

Now that's what happens. But players champion there he goes, what are some of the vistas that you're looking at here? So always since day one, even even before uh Fred and Harrison got involved, we always thought that long speak should be a signature hole looking at long speak it's the big fourteener that everybody on the front range looks

at and we have a majestic view of it. So when we got out and Fred Harrison lined it up, we literally put a survey steak right to the top of the peak to the tea box and that's where Fred Harrison designed hole number one. So I think those foursome selfies and all that stuff with long speak in the backdrops, it's gonna be a credible sales point force. Everybody's gonna want to go have their force. I'm taking

with that picture's magniicient, magnificent. The you're obviously understand marketing and you're you've mentioned a couple of times, but this is going to kind of market itself. Is that's sort of what your point, right, I mean, if you if you, if you build it, they will come and they'll do the marketing for you. You know, that's a big part of it. Um. You know, you have to have something special in today's world. You can't be average, you can't

be normal. You have to have something extraordinary. And this is extraordinary. And when people start sending, you know, posting all the social other stuff, even this fire pit, they're gonna go what is that. People are gonna want to have weddings here, and they're gonna want to have parties here, and it's just it's it's kind of magnificent. And this scene that you have right here tonight will never change.

There will never be any homes, there will never be a building that will be in the obstruct what we see here tonight. So it's it's it's gonna self, it's gonna self promote itself. And and that's another thing about that. We're we're gonna be Google or when you google longest course from the world, we're probably gonna be number two if it's measures where you thought it was. But it'll be appropriate if if he wants to have an event. Otherwise it's just going to be part of the mode

graphs out there. It'll be part of what's in play. But when they want to have them, well they could have I think seventy seven obviously, so it measured eighty would measure and we're at eighty four. Um, what about some of the other stuff? You know? I heard glamping? What in the hell is glamping? So glamping is a new trient. It's not real new, but it's in the last decade, and it's glamour camping, So it's the kind

of camp you're gonna be in charge of. Glamour won't be me, It won't be me, I can promise that, But I mean, you live a nice fire. I'd be willing to bet that these guys wives don't want to go sleep in a tent with an air mattress anymore. It is kind of cool to go out and like, imagine if you're here and you have an actual built in master bath like cab at home in a temper pedic mattress would be a cool place to spend the night. That's what glamping is. It's a super comfortable bed built

in uh um, super nice amenities. But you're in a tent or you're in a covered wagon or a royal and know yep, yep, and you and you have you have the silence that we have out here tonight. You have that silence and maybe you have a guy with a guitar comes in and there's families and you know, do the schmores and you do that stuff, and that's glamping and it's gonna be a lot of that. And again you're gonna be glamping and you might as well be a million miles from anywhere, but you're right in

the middle of a million people. You'll never know it. The hope is to open July July. Is that realistic? Harrison Fred? Absolutely? I mean, you know, we'll we'll get we'll get it seated out by the first September at the at the lightest. And it could be a little rough in the in the beginning, but who cares. You're gonna go out there and play golf. The grains are going to be good, the taste will be good. You're gonna bump it in the fairways anyway, So who cares. Man.

I've got a super peacefulness about that because we've opened two other courses on a very similar schedule, and they were blue grass, and I know what fescue grass does in this and it's gonna just it's gonna grow like a jungle. And so Jeff, our superintendent, is going to be out here with mowers in two months and where I have absolutely no anxiety about Jul twenty two. It's

gonna be great and it'll be ready. Sounds good. I want to reserve a glamping spot so I could be close to the Court Center, Air mattress and that manure spreader right there. That's all I've earned here today. I've only do you think of the interview. I've only known you for about six hours, but you're as full of ship as any of these guys are. For more on rain Dance National. To see and read about their work

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