Journey to Kauai Recap

So I really really do respect that. Uh there's a great quote from a rapper, Uh, that's the purpose of life is a life with the purpose. So I'd rather die for a cause than of the life that is worthless. So it kind of brings that to my mind. Definitely is very very inspiring for sure. Here give the time. Welcome to the fire Pit with Matt Chanella. Alright, we're

back after a festive and compelling Masters week. Thanks to all who listened to the series of fire drills, which will continue to happen during major championship weeks and if and when there's breaking news and golf. Before we get to today's episode of the fire Pit, which is a recap of our recent journey to Kawaiti, which can be seen on fire Pit Collective dot com. I want to thank links Soul for their sponsorship of this podcast and a lot of what we create here at the fire

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I believe the bag Boy Nitron Auto Open push cart is the best out there, and for me, it's not even close. All right, back to Kawaiti today, I'm joined by Colton Nedler, a producer, shooter and editor here at fire Pit Collective, as well as Patrick kanig Are Drone Ninja,

still photographer and producer of our fire Pit festivals. We have a bunch of guests throughout today's show, all of whom who start in our Kawaii show they've watched the episode and they're here to provide feedback, insight, and additional perspective on how and why Kawaii is so special. We start with Derek Kawakami, mayor of Kawaii since and who has a special place for the Wailua Municipal Golf Course, which is widely considered one of the best value plays

in the country. Guys, fun to be doing something a little different this uh, this episode of the fire Pit. Good to have you with me, Colt and Patrick. Thank you, Matt, very much appreciated and happy to recap the whole trip of you boys and other guests. Yeah, it's a pleasure to be here and relive the magic of Hawaii. Transport back to a beautiful week in our lives. Guys were

awaiting Mayor Kawakami. The way it's gonna work is we're on and we've scheduled out these variety of interviews happening kind of every fifteen and twenty minutes, so people will be popping on, popping off. Uh, we will sounding off, I guess before they pop off or pop off. The call um be a variety of things happening. But I'm I'm really excited. You know, we've we've we've we dropped the quiet episode of Journeys. It's can be seen again. Like I said at fire Pick Collective dot com, We've

done a bunch of social teases. There's much more to come out of this episode, inc including some more digital shorts. But each one of these journeys is starting to sort of look and feel very more, much more episodic each time. And and we're sitting on St. Andrews is also in the pipeline, which is gonna be very exciting as we lead into the hundred and fiftieth playing of the Open Championship. But this is this is gonna be a little different.

But I'm also excited about the kind of the new format again absolutely, And uh, you know, having these kind of wrap up recap podcasts to relive the trips. Uh, it's so incredible to kind of go over the lessons that we learned and lived at that time. Um, but also to sort of you know, compare across across Journeys the different lessons that we've learned all over the globe, and it's it always seems to be a different lesson

from each little place. Yeah, even as this was my first journey uh with Matt um and it was I mean it was December and it feels like a lifetime ago. You know. I've been uh fortunate to go on a number of these sins then, and each one is like a little bit a little bit different, little bit better. I mean, it's like I'm watching myself grow up, uh pretty quickly, and it's uh it's cool to be like,

you know, the donmost guy in the room. You know, like some of the stuff I say that, you know, because you guys are all you're talking to me experts at what you do, and so it's fun to to pick some some tidbits and uh oh yeah, I would have handled that differently now, or I could do this, or like, hey man, I did a good job at that little piece. So um fun fun. Well, here we

go on that note, Patrick, here comes Mayor Derek Kawakami. Mr. My friends, I gotta tell you, um, right out the gate, before you guys say anything, I want to say thank you because um, you know, there's a number of TV shows that have highlighted kite and um, I would say this above and beyond paid the ultimates. It's not even a golf sure, I would say, right, and this is

coming from a guy that's a non golfer. If I thought this, if this is like the Golf Channel or anywhere else, I would have watched this and thought, this is just about us, about our way of life, about what's important highlighting I mean important people, Uncle art Uncle incident. But I just wanted to say thank you you did as well that that means so much to to us.

You have no idea, you know. We we pride ourselves on on our style and our format, and in a lot goes into this obviously you know better than anybody, right, It takes a team of people do anything, uh, you know worth note. But the production, the producers, the you know a lot of people went into making sure that the people we spoke to, where we went and who was articulating this this story. Uh, that always matters to us, and it obviously mattered mattered to the people of Kawaii.

Each person let us into somebody else who they felt would be a great you know, uh voice to have in here. But you know the other thing is is you guys are doing the work. It's you, it's it's the people you know, and and we've you know, in talking to each person. I think each into person has taken taking responsibility to on themselves to try to make

a difference. And in total, if you connect those dots Kawaii to me, we left there going if if if Mother Earth, If everybody who lived on this planet had this same kind of focus and sensibilities and commitment to a selfless kind of great or good like it seems people have on quite where would we be as as as a as as a globe. Absolutely? And I think you know, I mean in a sense when things are not right right, I mean they use the word porno,

which is what is right. And um, you know, when people come into the community and they're not syncd in so to say, they really stand out really quickly, right, And then there's two paths that can either hey, I gotta get acclimated and be a part of this, or I'm always going to be kind of like sticking out like a sore thumb. And I think in a sense it's because of what you just described, and um love it.

My whole office is just so happy with the entire entire production from just how you were able to really take the focus on our culture, what's important to us and I gotta tell you. I mean, you know, there's so many people on Koye that haven't experienced the sport of golf, and I hope they do, just if they're like just a person like me that goes out and you know, got to pick up my ball and keep up with everybody. But just it's a part of our island that I think everybody should be able to see.

And when you highlighted ho Kuala and how they talked about how they converted part of their golf course into a farm and walking path, you know that golf course again is really near and dear to our hearts because that's where my dad hosted the Richard they called Comy Memorial Golf Tournament, one of the biggest tournaments in the state UM to raise money for organizations like Hospice UM you know, for youth sports and activities, junior golf that

their program and UM. When Whole Koala decided to pivot from having to eighteen whole golf courses, what they did was they opened up these areas for the general public, so if you're not a golfer, you can go and enjoy those trails and in essence be on a part of the island that you know, previously only golfers new.

So it's really cool how that came together. We felt we we've left their feelings so much smarter about about what's possible, so much hope, you know, about what's possible because you know that sustainability issue and being you know, we all have kids. We we we we want you know,

we want grandkids with their generations are coming. And if we don't pay attention to what's happening to Mother Earth, we're there's not going to be a lot of a lot of a lot more generations that get to enjoy all the all the fruit of of what's happening around us. So I don't know, I just you know, you're obviously doing a lot of things right. Your leadership and a lot of the leadership that's happening in that community on that island is something that I think we can learn from.

And uh and thank you for your preservation and focus on Wailua. As your father said, take care of this golf course. And that was a really touching That was a really touching moment um in in a very you know, sort of a touching a show. Really no, and that's I think you know, I mean as a son and you know, I mean I think, um, what we strive to do is keep our promise to our parents, right, especially when they're not around, is like, um, that's when

it becomes most important. But like I think art Fujita and Winston Agatha, and both of them are my dad's buddies. Right. You look at those guys there, I mean, those guys are their seasoned, right, but you look at you can tell how strong they are, right that mono, that power that they still have, and when they get to say, you know, they're playing like twenty seven bucks a month. You know, for our senior citizens, I think it's indicative

of what we prioritize. And you know, when you've got junior golfers that can play around for a dollar, Um, it reflects to the rest of the world where our priorities are. It's with our kupuna, right, our elders, and with our kiki, with both the future and those that came before us that made a brighter future for guys like me. Col you grew up in Honolulu. What are your what are your thoughts and comments from Mr Mayor? Well, first of all, Mr Mayor, thank you. We took our

cat to you. I really appreciate your time now and also during our trip in coming by Waylua and sharing that time with us was really special and it was a beautiful message to share. UM. Because my question is, you know, these lessons like live Pono Malama dina and at the forefront of a lot of people's minds uh in Hawaii, all across Hawaii, but especially Kawaiti. UM, what do you think that is? It's some in the water.

I think culturally, you know, um, and it all starts with you know the kanaka, right, kannaka moui, the people, the original people and how they were very much a part of Earth, a part of the ana, of a part of the ocean, and um, you know, in a sense, Native culture is always pay respect to what what sustains us. You know, if we didn't have a healthy earth and

a healthy ocean, we wouldn't be able to survive. So I think we pay the ultimate respect to coexisting and understanding that we are just a part, just a part of the puzzle which we would call our entire ecosystem. And if anything is thrown off kilter, it has a resounding impact. UM. That has unintended consequences, So we always strive to to strike that balance right and I think

that's where the tug of war is. And you know, it's amazing because you know, I watched that show and heard the perspectives of other people and um, you know, just to tie it back to golf and to all the listeners and watchers, I am by far never going to be considered a golfer, but I like the game and the sword of golf because of what it represents when you think about it a golfer, it's a sport

that boils down to integrity, right, self governance. You count your own you count your own score, and if somebody has a divid they go back to to go and repair it for the next person. Right And and in a sense, um, I think that's why, Uh, there's a lot of parallels between the lifestyle in Hawaii and ENCOI and this sport and a lot of them um co exists together beautiful analogy their self governance. Amen, Mr Mary, I know you're busy, We're not we're gonna, we're gonna

let you go. But before we let you go, you know, did it give you hope and did you learn some things about your island by by listening in on on you know, people like farmer Samuel and kay Lee E and and and uh you know Uncle Arthur of the canoe club and all the different things that are happening. I mean, it's just incredible, Uh, the amount of different person you know, Mary B. Porter King and the efforts

for junior goal. I mean, what was your takeaway and from from just the overall of and as it relates to the individuals, well, it's apparent from each and every person that we're very much tied to this place, right, I mean to hear about the history of you know, the Prince Golf Course and you know what used to be there before, you know, cattle right, the paniolas, the ranching and um, it's very apparent that our people are

very much tied to our history. That where we are today and where we're going, um is very just as much, if not more important, where where we've come from, what are the origins of all of this and um it's a reminder for people like me who you know, in the scope of the job that I do as a mayor, I would be on the younger end of the spectrum and as much as we are noted for being ambitious, forward thinking, like let's move and march forward, that I have to in order for me to effectively lead this

beautiful island and our people, I have to make sure that I have my feet firmly grounded and where we've come from, and to make sure that we're paying respect to to all those that came before us, that what the land was and the story of the land um is perpetuated to the next generation so that we can appreciate it. You know, if we're out there and just thinking that this is just a golf course, so be it. But it's very apparent is that there there's a story

behind everything. And in tying to the golf courses that you know, we we have to make sure that we're mindful that we are um. We are on sacred land. No matter where you step on Koali, there's a story, there's a history, and it's sacred. One of the biggest messages that we try to convey to our show is, you know, if you're a visitor to Hawaii or Kuwaiti,

you want to have guest mentality. But one of the most surprising things that we found was that the locals of Kaiti also have guest mentality right much so we are all just just here and and we uh you know, we all pay our respects. Thank you, respect much respect to you and uh and to your island and to all the people and uh and uh you know, we're honored. Like I said in the story, we're honored to to share these stories and for all the access and support

we received throughout the process. Uh. I can't thank you enough. So I appreciate you and thank you folks enough. I will end with this. You folks are um always welcome back. I tell you, um not not everybody is like just warmly embraced why they come back again. But I will tell you I probably speak for many people, but what you were able to do and the respect that you paid to our island and our beautiful people is profound. And you, you folks are always welcome back with open arms. Mohanna,

we're in the Ohana, okay. Uh, thank you very much, Aloha, thank you. It's easy to lose faith and politicians these days, there's just not a lot of there's just not a lot of good. You know. I don't care if you're on the right or the left. I think it's safe to say that there's a lot of disappointment going on in the world of politics. But you know, I think of Steve Leary and winter Park, who helped Zone to navigate the redo of the winter Park nine And I

always thought, man, that's that's real leader. Like what he did and how he did that was real leadershipship. And then you take the mayor of Kawaii. It's like, you know, this island that is so sacred and special in so many ways, and you know, there's ten thousand I was reading seventy three thousand people on Kauaiti. The the population is almost doubled since the eighties. There's ten thousand sort

of Native Hawaiians who live on Kawaii. And that that balance that he's talking about about how you make it affordable and livable for the locals and and but you also allow for you know, sort of free commerce and capitalism. And but you know, you can't just let it just run them up. Otherwise you're gonna end up, you know, overdoing it and and and ruining resources and essentially, you know,

ruining the island. So I can't imagine I can't imagine the level of complexities that he has to navigate in trying to appease sort of growth but also uh protection of the past, and yet he distills it down so so neatly, his beautiful analogy between golf and community, the idea of self of governance and how that is you know, you can live that through the sport of golf, and that's how you should live your life with your community, uh and the part of the world that you live in.

I mean, that was that was transcendent. Yeah, that was that. That was cool. I mean I'm trying to think maybe that that might be the best moment uh that I've had it here at fire Pit, and there's been a lot of our good moments at fire Pit, but when he came on, and you know, there's something about that moment right there that I was like, this is it getting get knowmedge from from the man for a job

well done with felt as good as anything. Um. Yeah, I'm giving I'm giving it the award the coolest moment right there. Well, it's not stopping there. We have a whole list of guests lined up. We've got Mary B. Porter King coming on, We've got Huilani and and Kelly from who O Kuala. We've got kay lee E. We've got farmer Samuel lined up. We've got uh jeez Zeke from Point Poo Bay. We got We're not this is no look and here we got we got Mary Be lined up in the waiting room. Good morning, can you

hear me? We can? Good morning. It's not a miracle. I would have said, I would have said, you know, Mary Be, two years ago, I would have said it's a miracle. But now, given all that we've learned from COVID and the technological advancements we've made through COVID, I feel like it's not actually much of a miracle at

this point. That's true. Well, I know, so I guess that might be one of the positives of COVID for you many But yeah, and as it relates to golf, there are a lot of positives because people sort of you know, uh, reimagined their love affair with the game. Um. But just speaking about reimagining love affairs, my gosh, Mary, you know, Mary Be, we we we loved spending time with you on Kawaii. So that was fun. Well, you did a spectacular piece on high lighting our beautiful island.

There's always that part of me in which it was spoken in the spoken during the broadcast as well about we want you to see it and love it, but we want to make sure you take care of it at the same time. And it's it's always that a little bit that fear of UM we don't want we

want to make sure we keep it. We keep it, Christine so so so do you think you know, just having seen it, do you think we we were able to communicate those types that that type of messaging that it seems to me and every person we talked to that was reiterated. You know what we were getting from you and so many others was this real concerted effort to preserve the not only the culture, but the future of of of an island so special, as special as quite he is. Really no, and I think that's what

you did the best. Really. I think you really let people know that, yes, this is spectacular, and but make sure let's keep it that way for future generations. But I thought your piece on every piece of your UM I don't know which column anymore, we'll call the show. We'll call it a show sure is good. Really, it really highlighted that and the people that you spoke with had that passion and I thought you did a great job.

I hope the county was thrilled with it. I know Supanovo reached out to me, but I think I'm sure the county was thrilled. Sue has been given us great feedback, and she's getting a lot of great feedback, which obviously means a lot to us. You know that there's nothing you know, there's nothing worse than feeling like you've nailed a story and then you hear back like, oh, you totally missed it. And we we pride ourselves on not

missing it. What what is the nature of the story but a lot the production credit goes to alex U, Peggy and Colton Adler, who could obviously on and who you know who really pride themselves on on getting us in the right spots to meet the right kind of people so that we don't miss it. The story being what it is now and it is key to have that local person involved. Um, I think that's the biggest key. And you didn't miss it. I think you hit it spot on. Col What do you got from Mary b Well?

I mean, as always, thank you, Big mahallows to marry v for for her hospitality, and being a part of this project and serving as consultant early consultant as well for us obviously as somebody who grew up in the islands. Uh,

this this project was close to my heart. And um, you know, I guess just knowing knowing sort of the local culture and in the quite easy local culture is different even somebody growing up what is it you know, forty miles away or something like that, or all of a hundred of across a hundred miles away you twenty minute flight. Um, it is very removed, right. I mean I grew up in a big city, you know, on Owahu and to somebody from Quaite if if I go to Quaiet, Hey, how's it like for me? Especially now

living on the mainland. You know, I feel like, you know, quite even quiet at home for me, right, but but it's still you know, each island is its own culture. It's still a little separated. Um. And to be able to you know, I've never spent you know, that amount of time on quiet and really got to dig in and learn about it and meet the people and talk about the culture. Um. So it was a even a learning experience for me. Um. And uh yeah, just just

more appreciative of it. And I think I guess what what really left an impression on me was, you know, guess mentality is very important, right, especially for the visitors that come to the island. But I think the surprising part was that even the locals on quite have guest mentality, right, Yeah, you're correct. It's um, we're very so unique here. I think we're very different. And like you said, every island is different, um, and in a beautiful way. They're all different,

and it's just how they've all evolved. The big island, because it's so big, is a little more separated, and we're you know, we're the smallest of the four major islands, so and so we're a little more of a community here and people know more people here where you grew up on o Wah who you're we We go there and and it's like a big city. It's like going into Los Angeles or something for us. But um, but then you get out of the big city and you see how beautiful Oa who is and and what it

has to offer it really is. It's amazing. Just gonna add one thing, Quaie being the you know, one of the smallest communities, but also the oldest, which is important and I think um was it Kaylee that was really driving that point home during the show, you know, just the importance of being the oldest kind of the you know, older brother, older sibling of the other islands and just

sort of the responsibility that comes with that. We we were we are the oldest and the most historical as far as UM Western civilizations concerned, since Captain Cook landed here first. Um and uh we were discovered first. But and we're the oldest. And that's why our island just the earth the way it looks, and they h where it looks so different than the other islands. And we're formed by one volcano where Maui's too, and so that's

why they're all so different. H. You know. On on with us is Patrick Kaneig who you know speak of views um at pool. Ok. You might not have seen much of Patrick because he had crashed his drone at Poor k That's just why we don't have any drone

footage of poor Care that that particular day. But um, Patrick would would you know any thoughts or questions for Mary b as you know now that you finally have a chance to really get to spend time with her because instead of chasing your your drone into a tree, yeah, well we we didn't land a tree at landed in somebody's backyard and it's safe. We gotta There's a couple

to be watched the episode. There's a couple of quick clips that were able to so it wasn't it wasn't all for not, but uh, the great bummer about that was that, you know, flying the drones kind of takes you away from the action. And so when you when we're walking with somebody like Mary, b uh, do you want to get in there and just kind of hear what she has to say, kind of experience it. He actually plays the game. I mean, uh, it's like it's a it's a legend that you just kind of want

to get closer to. So, uh that that was the great bummer about uh losing that drone and I had to leave the property actually for a quick uh like ten minutes, and you guys and I like zoomed out there. I mean, I won't save the details of the technical snaf foods of that whole thing, but but I was pretty nervous for quite some time. I'm happy to return it and recover a little bit of footage, um from that from an unfortunate flight, is there I find my

drone app Is that how you found it? I knew I had to land in it was kind of like a backyard area, so I didn't want to infend somebody too too much, but I had to had to go down, So I had an idea just from where I saw it and where I tried to put it down, so I knew where I was going. But um, yeah, I arrived and it was it was upside down for some reason, but it was safe. It was safe. I'll tell you. The footage that you did capture throughout the whole show

was absolutely spectacular. I mean, if people weren't attracted to I didn't know anything about us, they're going to be blown away by seeing the footage that you captured just on every coast line that was really beautiful. Well it's a it's a treat because I mean I've flown a drone over every state in the United States and a lot across the world, and uh, I don't know if there's a better place to capture imagery um than in Hawaii.

I mean, people I think they know. But the idea is to showcase maybe some of the things uh that we we didn't know or we couldn't see by this, and you know, me being the first time we're on the on the journeys with with Matt in the team, it's interesting because I've been to Quiet before and it's kind of like the first time you really don't know what you're doing and you get a lot of this I don't know if it's tourists sort of destinations, but it's tough to dig in uh and and and get

to note the people. So that was probably the coolest part, aside from just capturing the imagery. Then you're like, oh, this is this is I get it now, Like I'm you know, I had conversations with local people. We more than just surfer level, and we dug in and then you start to understand what that guest mentality is all about and the appreciation for the land uh and the you know, the conservation, all the things that are going on there. And it's much more powerful when you when

you dig in below the Hey we're in Hawaii. There's beaches. It's it's unbelievable, sort of like whirlwind. I think most tourists and visitors to Hawaii experience. We certainly don't have all the attractions that in a wah who has, you know, we we we attract a totally different type of visitor here, which is great because they really the people who who come here um end up you know, their outdoors people. They're hiking there in the water, there doing outdoor activities,

and uh, that's the beauty of Kauai. It's uh and I don't know that. The North Shore, especially to me, is one of the most beautiful places on earth. Um. And uh, they make a little of rain, then everyone always thinks of us is getting rain. And I was disappointed that that one piece at Poipu Bay and we're on the South shore at rain because everyone thinks we rain all the time and we don't. We don't all

the time. But um, it's just uh, you know, it's just one of the most beautiful places in the world in my opinion. And I haven't been everywhere, but I'll tell you where I have been this. I don't think

there's anything much prettier. No I've I've said all along, you know, we've we've done the cliffs some more and and the Giants Causeway in Ireland, and and uh, you know the Grand Canyon, and and there are obviously some you know, the the the mountains that the Titans or or the Canadian rockies that you know near Bamp Springs. There's some visual you know, splendors out there, some some things that that that just sort of boggle your mind

when you see them in person. But the Nepali Coastline is on listing in my mind, quite frankly, is at the top of the list. It's unlike anything you know. To be at the base of the Nepoly Coastline or sort of take those boats in and out of the Nepoly Coastline as you're going into the caves is incredible. And then going back to the drone concept, Patrick, you know, the first time I ever got into a helicopter was in Hawaii, and I said to myself, oh my god,

if you're gonna get into a helicopter, I wasn't. I was always nervous about being a helicopter. If you're gonna do a helicopter, do it in Hawaii, because what you know, becoming a human drone to see what you were showcasing from a drone perspective is that's the place to do it. It's unlike anything I've ever seen and and you'll ever see. Yeah, I think it's it's tough to even capture. Like a drone does a good job of showing maybe an alternate

look for those that take the boat. And but it's really I mean in person, it blows you away, like you gotta visit because it's like you see it and you the scale of it is really hard to grasp until you're you're standing there on the boat or um whatever that may be, and it's like everybody just wow. I mean I saw pictures of it and the first time I saw it, I was like, wow. It really On the subject of guests, we all know, we also have Zeke joining us. Now, Zeke, we played Poipoo Bay

with the matches still all square. Zeke, You're you're on with Coltneller, Patrick Kannig and Mary Mary b. Porter King. Zeke, what are your what are your initial reactions of of what you saw from the from the show? I thought you guys did a great job with the production and showcasing coy. Nice good to hear. How about how about Point Poo Bay? Man, I mean, you know, visually from the ground as as we were you know, as you were saying, there's just a lot of wows out there,

there's no houses. It's a beautiful place, but from up above, and when it came together as the show, it was like, my goodness, this is spectacle killer. The sights, the sights on this island are unbelievable. I mean just not only in plot fool, but the whole island itself. So you guys captured what what Patrick captured from the air was very very good. I heard some of the video was kind of dark, but I mean from what I saw

when he was playing that day, it looked pretty incredible. Yeah. Um, we have Mary Mary Beond obviously, and and and and before we let you go, Mary Mary b I wanted to just get some more thoughts on on junior golf, not only as it relates to Hawaii, but Kawaii and you know, uh, in everything you've done and all the efforts you've made and the selflessness of trying to sort of give back, talk a little bit more about about the progress being made or or what some of the

challenges are that that still remains to sort of truly grow the game on a place like an island. Well, just that that We're an island, um, and we are islands and where you know, I grew up many years ago in southern California and I could hop in a car and they'll play in tournaments every week and every day all over the state. Where it's a challenge here and uh for our kids to participate in events off island.

I mean, uh, Colt can tell you that. But we as I may have mentioned that we started, we took over the first teach ch apter the beginning of last year, so in Hawaii, and so I'm very excited about that, just to get more kids into the game, to start them in the game. The game itself teaches you everything you need to know about life as is without words, the game just teaches us that. But Pooka is going to be our home site here on Kauai, and we hope to have um other will have the other courses

around participate eight. But I just think that right now we're unlimited there. As you mentioned earlier that the game around the US has been booming and we're trying to pick up the game now. Unfortunately, we were shut down for those times during COVID, which was difficult, so we did lose kids and Uh, we're shut down in junior golf for almost two years, so we're trying to get

it back up now. UM. I think seeing the Masters last week and the drive chip and pud and the things that would motivate young people and our college tournaments come to the islands now, um, that to me energizes everyone and they can see the potential. And it's hard that our kids, you know, we are isolated from the mainland. We're so they don't know what's over there. They don't

know what the possibilities are for them. And you know, my goal has been to try to educate them that the sky is the limit for them and that there are there are possibilities, the possibilities of gaining that education through the game, but more importantly that if they could play the game for lifetime. Uh, the world would be a much better place for all of us. Amen, Amen, Mary B. Porter King Um. Well, always always a treat

to hear your voice. Mary, be and thanks again for your for your time and cooperation and your perspective on Kauaii while we were there and and especially now. And uh, you know you're always welcome at god Hill Park here.

You've got a lot of friends out here. Everyone I bump into says hey, Mary May your your name comes up almost every day at god Hill Park, So your legacy is sort of UH and your roots system throughout throughout the game is UH is healthy and UH continues to grow in in with nothing but respect and admiration.

So thank you for everything. My son plays. They're quite a bit and I think Eeke's taken some money from my son too, so um, you can maybe hold off on him a little bit, you know, saying parents, so you'll be nice to him, Zeke, I try to be, but yeah, thanks you guys. You're great and I love the show and I love what you're doing, and thanks for spreading the good word and good luck. Thank you

so very thank you. All right, take care, Zeke, Zeke, welcome, Welcome to this show, which is a follow up show on the show that you're obviously starting. Apparently I'm not the only person that you fleece out there. You're you're you're equal opportunity, you know, flee sir. I guess I wouldn't call it fleecing. It's a game of skill that

we're playing against each other. So if if you need strokes, like my friend's father said, the driving Greens is at the beginning of the course and you guys can start working there. Well, I know, we pointed out, Zeke that you know in the show that you're not from Kawaie, but now call Kawaie home and uh and and you're sort of general impressions again on the show, not only beyond the visuals and popo, but just on the island

in general. You guys did an incredible job showcasing the whole island, just the cultural aspect, the sense of community, the sense of stewardship that everybody on this island has to take care of the community so it's passed on to the next generation. I mean, just the hommer simon, you could see the generational um, how many more generations are going to continue that. There's a lot of businesses

here that are generational. So like the gentleman said on in prince Ville, for you guys at Mackay, we're just stewards We were just caretakers of it, were taking care of it for the next generation. You know, Zeke i, I you know, I walked. I want My biggest takeaway from Kawaii was, you know, on an island and having that kind of controlled space. It makes it It's not to say it's easier, but it's a little easier to

better define what the issues are. Get people aligned with a focus on sustainability and being those stewards of the land, you know, resource, you know, conserving resources. If only, if only the world think of the Earth, if planet Earth the population had the same mentality as Kawaii has about sort of the greater good of where we live and

on on this planet, where would we be? Right? Like I feel like if we can say, if we can learn from Kawaii and these efforts and this community spirit and sustainability and and the stewardship man, where would we be today? As as you know, sort of society in general, society and general in a lot better shape than it's in now, that's for sure. I mean it's just ultimately it's it's everybody taking responsibility for everything that they do.

That's really what it comes down to. And like you said, being on an island and being in a smaller community, people do do that here. I mean beach cleanups, you're talking part cleanups, you're talking just general taking care of the hina is done throughout the community here. Yeah, being land, right, I'd of being land, I'd not being land, Yes, Zeke.

Were there any perspectives, um that we're sort of new or interesting that you learned from the show for maybe the other guests, um that either you hadn't heard of before, or we're sort of posed in a you know, new or different perspective than how you've heard them before. Sure, everybody's story you guys shared had different aspects for everybody. I mean, I don't go to the north Shore very often just because you know, we're on such a small island.

Traffic becomes a problem sometimes. And just seeing what goes on up there in the taro farms and how they're keeping everything sustainable up there, how they're taking care of the land, is you know, it's a great different perspective because I don't see it that often. Unfortunately, sometimes we're just narrow minded and not narrow minded, but narrow focused on what we're doing, that we're not opening up to everything else that's out there. And seeing your guys production,

was it opened up? You know, you opened your eyes to a lot of different things than what you just see on a daily basis. Certainly introduces us to new things, and I think to a lot of people. I mean, especially when you talk about the North shore of Kuwaiti. You know how unique it is when, as Kaylee told us, the u N recognize them as one of twenty communities across the globe to do this sort of thing. You know, Um, I can imagine that not a lot of people have

been introduced to that sort of way of life. No, And I didn't even know that that they had won that award. Um, that's incredible. I mean, to be recognized, that's a worldwide recognition. That's just not a national recognition or a state or regional recognition. That's worldwide. And that's incredible. Yeah, it was. And yet you realize, like, if you don't put systems like that in place, or if you don't preserve those gardens like they're doing, if you don't make

those kinds of commitments. I mean, it took them a long time to get there and get that up and going and get it to where it is. Now that that was a relentless and exhaust of uh you know,

commitment on a lot of people's parts. But now you see it, you go, thank goodness, this is this kind of stuff is happening because again that becomes a blueprint for not only what's happening on your island Kawaii, other islands in Hawaii, other islands in the world, and then and then and then again, sort of spinning it up

to the greater good. Yes, another thing I could point out when you went to many Honi fish pond, you that fish pond was overgrown by mangroves and there was a lot of effort put in by um the local councilman who organized this group to go up there and clean it all up. There was no way you would have been able to land the canoe there five years ago.

That's how bad it was. And that's that That goes to show the how they're improving the land, making it better and sustaining it so that people can see it and appreciate it. Yeah, it makes me want to you know, all of this, all of this made me want to move to Kuwait. I was like, my gosh, you know, we're here in Oceanside, California. We see the efforts being made by John Ashworth to preserve and and sort of

set up this community asset for the future. But it's like you know that, and and we we love and appreciate and support every all those efforts. But like you take that times a thousand, it feels like that's what's being done in Kuwaiti. You know, it's like wow, it's it's uh, it's just amazing. And I'm sure you feel the same. It's like if, like, if everybody does their part, and if everybody's is held responsible or claims responsibility for

their part, that's how this that's how this happens. It's about taking ownership, that's for sure. But it's not just happening here on kuwait It's happening everywhere. You look at the Big Island, you look at Molokai, you look at the night, you look at what they're trying to do in Maui. But for me is I mean, it's incredible. Cold knows knows what Hawaii's like, the sense of community,

people looking out for you. Colt knows that when he would go to his friend's house after a long day of practice or surfing, the parents always had food for cult. I guarantee he ate very very good, even if it wasn't at his own house. I mean, there's the parents all taking everybody else's kids at that point, you know, and it becomes a whole sense of community and everybody looking out for each other. Absolutely, and I think it's cool that that Kauai can you know, can be a

leader in that space sort of. You know, as we've talked about it, it's the it's the oldest, most historical and you know, from the perspective of sustainability or practices like they're doing on the North Shore, hopefully Kauai is the leader for the rest of Hawaii to follow. Yes, yes, And I think we're the whole state in a hole is headed in the right direction. That's for ye. Yeah, I think for for somebody that is not super familiar

with why. That's why it's so fun to tell these stories because you get in there and you kind of figure this out and understanding you're like, well, no, nobody else is doing like doing it like this. You know, there's no communities like this. Maybe there's a little bit, but like then you take it, you put in a story and you share it and you open people's eyes. Um, these things don't happen overnight, right, So it's about changing the perspective and exposing people to different ways of doing it.

And it's like, I mean, I'm super proud to have been, you know, part of just telling the stories so more people can understand what it is. It's different about Hawaii. Maybe they can take one little thing, uh and start something in their own community. So it's like that. That is for me was my big big takeaway from from being a part of this team and and and meeting folks like yourselves. Yeah, I appreciate it. I mean exactly.

You're exactly right. If if you can take a small piece of something from this story that you guys provided, and it's a great story, and apply it to yourself, you'll see changes that you wouldn't even believe you could treat on your own. You know, it's if you apply it to other people. You bring people in with you. Again, the sense of community. You can't do it by yourself. You need a community, you need you need that village

behind you, you know, to start change. Well, our our matches all square, Zeke, and you have an open invite for a little home and home we can we can continue this match at goat Hill Park. You come to my turf and uh and we'll settle this will settle this score, you know properly. I look forward to it. I look forward to a rematch. I look forward to you moving here and join the Ironland. We can play every day. And you know this, as long as you

bring enough money to come around. There's there's it's good to go. Zeke's on the long con. He's he's playing the long game. Thank thank you. So so yeah, it's it's it's the same bet for you. I think the biggest takeaway for anybody who watches the show is just just play with Zeke for fun, you know, don't don't don't bet Zeke at home. I have Venmo, I have Venmo.

We're good to go, Beno Benma. Uh. Well, Zeke can't thank you enough for your time that day and uh and all of your inside and perspectives and and uh and and now as well. So thanks for joining us and uh and uh look forward to look forward to more conversations and more more courses in our future. I appreciate you, guys. Thank you very much. You guys did a very good job showcasing coit it was I was very proud to be a part of it. Thank you

guys very much. Thank you buddy, hellos, Thanks zan Aloha man, just bringing back good feelings, you know, man fresh all I got chills when they say we do a good job. I get all I get. I mean, I can't help but feel proud, proud of every you know, everything we do is a true collective effort. And obviously this you know, especially a journey, A journey is always like yeah, there was three of us. Jesse was another shooter with us

UM who helped edit some of these scenes. We got the whole you know, Louis and Colin and Marco the edit team, Alex on the production side, Uh, Jake is going to help support a lot of the social cuts and this podcast. But you know when we say collective effort, um, that's certainly what this is. Yeah, it was fun to prepare. Last night. I just got I watched the episode and

I was just like I was just a fan. You know, this is good, this is fun, um, and it was it was cool to see my you know, my contribution as part of the team, and it's like, you know, its own, Like this is cool that there's zazing scenery, but like can you put it to that stuff with

cold Jessee and all the production effort that goes into it. Matt, you know, telling the story and leading the way, it's like wow, I mean you talk about it's community, right, so I mean if it's very well, I mean with the you know, what we created here is how Hawaii is evolved as well, so that community can create something so much more power, more powerful than any one of us can do, no matter how good we were or craft. And so it's like that kind of opened my eyes.

Is a is a lone ranger for a long time on the road of golf course photography. Um, like, hey, this is this is cool. I mean it's uh it was I got there last night, just kind of looking back through it, and this is this is good TV or whatever. Good This is a good show. It's always a good thing when the end product transcends your expectations or sort of you know, the what you had in mind, how you visualized it as one person, when everybody else comes in and brings, you know, what they have to

the table. I mean, just watching it last night, same thing. You know, I've seen a few of the rough cuts, but when you see the final product, man, it's just uh, yeah, it was. I was very proud, you know, to hopefully represent Hawaii, wah and Kauaie. But it's proud of our team. I was proud of our team mostly you know, and I you know every uh everything that that each person brings a little expertise in a little you know, specialty to the to the game and it uh and it

it really showed him this one. Yeah, the little there were little things. I remember that moment and I captured that. Oh that's perfect. It went and fit into the bigger picture. I was like, yes, nailed it, Like I got something there it is you know, so is uh it was a walk down memory lane and then like an enhanced enjoyment. It's like a really you know, a really good memory. You got even better. Well, we got more guests coming on guys. Next up is Kelly Hinna. Welcome to our

reek our journey recap to Kawaii. Um, that was so well done. You guys did an amazing job. Oh that means a lot. Uh. We just had Mary B. Porter king on, we had Zeke on from Poipoo Bay and and obviously Lani is coming on in a little bit. But um that that means a lot to hear from people like yourself who obviously love Kawaii you know, as you know, beyond far beyond, you know, just a destination. But to for a place you call home. For you to feel like we properly represented and and portrayed Kauai

in a way that you're proud, makes us proud obviously. Yeah, Art Art Fujita, what a classic guy, so funny, Oh my gosh. And then Art Chow. Oh that was hilarious. Hilarious. Yeah, bro, we're going over here as my uncle over there, my grandpa. Oh my god, was hilarious. It was so good though you went paddle before. Yeah, alright, here's here's a battle. Yeah, get into the canoe. Just like golfing, Just like golfing,

Just like golfing. I see I see him probably like every other day because he's walking or he's biking around the property and then he lives right around the corner too. Well, that was a beautiful That was a beautiful part of the of the journey obviously and something that was unexpected.

But to see, you know, what he told us and taught us about, you know, sort of the fish, you know, the fisheries there and uh and what had been done to preserve those or bring those back into you know, expose them in a way that we can actually go and do that. You know, those are the kinds of things that you know, as as a visitor to Quiet,

you would never know or understand or potentially appreciate. Which is why being able to meet up with someone like that and have that experience and be able to learn that and share that is to me as someone who you know, makes a career out of storytelling, those are the stories that are worth telling. Yeah, yeah, thanks a lot, Matt. Now we're going to be inundated by more visitors? Is it catch two? Sorry? Not sorry? Yeah, z Uncle Arthur said,

I think it was his last line. Um in his scene there he goes, how many people get to see this? But Kelly talked to us Kala obviously is is um is where you hang out? But I mean, what did you did you learn anything about about the island when you watch the show? Is this is this something that you're you know, you're all you're you're all very well aware of of of the of the concerted efforts being done to preserve the culture and create sustainability for not

only this generation but many more to come. Oh yeah, you know, um kay Lee was he was kind of he was spot on um with your that was that was really cool And I got to learn a little bit more. I volunteer on that side of the island um at Lima Huli, this amazing garden with the National Tropical Botanical Gardens. So you know, just working the land has really taught me a lot. And then learning more

and then um hommer assignment. I didn't know, you know, I knew the family was still in there, and the woman, that Filipino woman that was there for like forty plus years, that's my classmate sister, so we you know, and so and was like, oh my gosh. But when my daughter came home, um visiting from Iowa, she's like, mom, hommer assignment, let's go, you know. And then mine mine is always a small half cook with two orders of vegetables, no spam, hold the spam, and that's that's my order over there.

But that that was really fun that, you know, the hommer assigmon that was are you really cool? Are you local enough where they where you just make eye contact and they know your order or do you have to you know, that's what they were saying. I thought was unbelievable. They just look at and they bring out the sup

like no words spoken. Yeah, so funny because and then when it rains on the island, and it's like, oh no, you gotta go super early, Tomma get ready because anytime it rains, bread and Deli and Hommer's Simon get slammed. That's what about the lily kuoi pie? How is that something that from time to time? Oh? Yeah, yeah, and then people take it off island, you know, so they'll take it to a Wahoo if they're going to go visit family to outer island, and then the rain they'll

bring the lily. Boy. Remember after our remember after our state championships. Uh, we played at White Lua and by one memory of that trip, one of a few, obviously, but one one one memory is going, uh we have the trophy ceremony. Thanks trophies are all posing as a team like all right, guys, you didn't and our coaches like, hey, guys, come on, come on, gotta go, gotta go. Were like, what casey, we just won? What are you talking? I gotta go home right before a flight, let's go, So

we go drop by him road. I remember the parents just carrying trades of like fried noodles and stuff like onto the airplane to bring back home to Hullelulu. Yeah, there. It's gosh, it's such a classic place and they've made you know, the changes in the seating area and I don't know if there's any pictures of the way it was before, but the the table or the owner went completely around. It was like a U shape and the

cook was in the middle. So we always like to sit in the back and watch the cook, you know. And they would be open at two in the morning, so after going to back, then the discotheq, and then we would go go over and have assignment to help that hang over. The next morning we went a classic We went I think three times in our trip there. I think we went there three times, right like it was it was it was it was once you get once you have that and you get exposed to that,

and you think about what are your other options. The idea of just going back there just seems like, let's let's not let's not overthink this, let's just go back to Homer Run Like it went three times and I was mad it wasn't four. Uh what about the what about this? You know? I know, Uh, you do a lot of hiking and you're your outdoors pretty much everybody in Hawaii is, but um, the spectacle that is kawaii,

I mean to me is just mind boggling. And to be able to get that many drone shots, the visuals not only of Ho Kuala, but you know, the Nepoli coastline and all the other you know, the Poipu Bay looks spectacular from the air. I mean, you just can't go wrong now. And you don't see it right when you're playing the hole coming down, you don't. You don't see those clips unless you're hiking it and then coming up.

But yeah, that was really really beautiful. And your parents obviously their ashes, their ashes being out there on that green and give me a birdie, Mom would give me a birdie. Dad? Is like that was it was. That was a very you know, the spirituality of it all, uh and what's reverberating out of that land and that water and that's floating around in the air is just it's very addicting. It's a very special thing. So I'm

jealous that you called that home. Yeah. The other last Wednesday, my girlfriend and I we paddle canoe, so we did got in our one man and we met at six in the morning and we went by the sixteenth hole. So I said, hi, mom, Dad, Charles, Rita, all, everybody's all over there. And then we paddled out to the buoy out by the lighthouse and in ninny and you know, it's still kind of early, but A l A I did my A l A greeted the sun. It was it was so cool. That was really cool. But then

this Wednesday there was a big swell. So then I met Sherry at Waialua River, so we went up Wailua River and re greeted the sun there. I mean, it's a tough life over here on the islands, and that's that's your background is that's that's wow. My my daughter will call the one in Ireland and she goes, mom, what are you doing. I go, I'm on the by ride or I'm hiking, and she goes, yeah, that's Kelly o'kanna's life must be hard. She's in Ireland. You said,

I'm sorry, Ireland. You said in Iowa. Going to school okay, cool? Cool, yeah, going to school. Well, can't thank you enough, Kelly obviously for for for for the time spent at Hokuala that that day and sharing your your perspective and uh thoughts on on your home and the island and the just general soul of the culture itself. And uh and also

thanking you for your time now, so I really appreciate it. Yeah, no problem, you guys all right, have a three day thank you okay, yeah, and then come on over and we'll all go hiking. Yes, yes, yes, hiking and canoe there we go alrightee yeah on the big screen, man, the visuals of journeys quite incredible on the big screen. Um, it holds up, man, it holds up. It's what thirty thirty three minutes or something like that. Grab a beer, sit down, enjoy it. You can kind of it's it's

worth hooking it up to the big screen. Whatever you have to do, it's worth it. It feels like a little mini doc. Alright. So one of Kelly's colleagues at Hokuala is uh Hulani. Who Lani is going to be joining us now? Guys, here she comes our next guest to this live ish kind of fire pit production. Yeah, and of course she's in a golf cart. Hulani. Did you get a chance to see the show yet? Oh my gosh, you guys are amazing. Wow. Yes, that's amazing.

That's um as as someone obviously who really helped lead us into the right path right out of the beginning. Obviously the you know, the song to the sunrise and then everything that transpired after that, but um, you, you know, everybody left the lasting impression on us, but you you, maybe more so than any But just because you you you allowed us and offered us so much connection to UH, to the land and UH and sort of the spirituality

of what's happening around that land. But it means a lot, you know, to hear back from someone like yourself and everybody that we've had on so far, that makes us feel like we we were able to kind of capture the essence of Kawaii. Total chicken skin, dude, total chicken skin. It just brought tears to my eyes of of all that you guys expressed from our from what we do here and the things we are with, um, all of our money. He needs to come visit us, you know,

it will become our guests and our ohanna. Like you guys, you know, when they come, it just really shows and and and shares all that. So you know, our heart, our heart is just full at warmth and and goodness and mohaala to you guys that was just simply amazing, simply amazing. Thank you so much, well, thank you obviously, thank you, and and oh koala was was a special day.

I mean that was the only you know, of course and property that we got to spend a full day at, you know, from the golf course with you and Kelly, to the farm the farmer Sam, who's gonna come on here in a little bit, as well, all the way through dinner at Huailani's no less at the end of the night. I mean you, as Matt said, you set the tone not only even for the show, but you set the tone for a trip as well. We really you took that with us moving forward throughout the whole

week in I wanted to add one thing. I was just kind of going through some photos of the different people that we met and a lot of people smiling. And it's unofficial now, but I ordered you best smile, best smile at the trip. So congratulations there, all of you guys and anyone of us you know that that shared that genuine aloha. And when you have genuine aloha, that smile is just automatic, automatic, and I see it all the faces. Yeah it Hulani. When you we've been

asking everybody. But you know, as you watched that show and you know were you did you learn? Did you learn more about about your island that maybe you didn't already know, or learn more about about individuals and their efforts to try to also preserve and and and create

a sense of sustainability for future generations to come. Yes, definitely. Um, so a lot of these you know, I kind of knew um and knew some of the people and just just uh knowing that you guys were connected to those people, I was like, wow, um it really it really um um talk to my heart and that it just um express while so so Jack doing you know that these guys coming and sharing what we have to share to the world and for our future, you know, just for

not just for us, but for our children and your children and everyone else's children they come. It was a true blessing, true blessing. So thank you so much for hoping up with those guys. Um, yeah, blessings, total blessings. And what you guys shared on the island and stuff, it was like really amazing. So mohala doing to Mohammad, come back, guys, We're coming. We're coming for sure, that's

for sure. That's already confirmed. How about how about Kelly and in the north that the Mackay course, and you know the connection to the land and the and the UH and and the farming that's being done, and just sort of I mean, you know, everybody, everybody had their own sort of perspective and touch point on two onto onto the general narrative of of what's being done. But um, he really he really hit. He really hit our hearts as well. My favorite, my favorite hit home, Um the

sustainability as far as our color. Yeah, color that that shares you know, what we what we need to sustain and how it continues on our life every day. He was just totally awesome. And and what was that? Did you were you one of him on that one? Or were you guys? Were you guys tied at the very end? I forget, but but oh my gosh, he was. He was amazing. So he and I was a team. He and I were partners against the pro there and and

I think we pulled it out. I think we pulled it out the end or or I hit that put to to end in a tie, I think is what it was. I think I had to have that put to tie. The match and I had gone in the water and still was able to salvage Birdie. After the after the after the after the water bowl. Yeah, hands down the most excited ever seen Matt. I've got a couple of pictures. He was screaming, he was pumped. He wanted that putt and he got it. And I'm pretty

sure it was for that the half. You're correct, it's for the half yet. But that was that was fun. He he uh. We're still trying to track him down where we're hoping to get him to be a part of this podcast, just because you know. When he he said, oh, I said, um, oh, we we hunt there? Oh what do you hunt o? Wild boar? Oh you hunt wild boar? You know, with a bow? He says, no, not a bow. So I'm thinking when he says not a bow, I'm thinking, oh, okay,

he hunts with a gun like the natural. I thought, oh, he would be more natural than that then a gun. But okay, he goes a gun and he goes no, no, no, dog and knife. I go dog and knife. He went backwards from a bowl. I was like, dog and knife, what does that look like? And he was like, oh, the dogs hold him down. And you come in and you get that, you know, and we were like, I took me two holds and cover from the dog and knife story. And then and then he goes, uh yeah,

first tea, your honor. You're like, might be the hardest, you know, the first tea. Yeah, I didn't rattle you. Well, Lonnie, while we have you, why don't you You know what we didn't get the show was was a lot of what you guys are doing with your staff there and you got you got foot golf and you got so much.

You know, we did what we were able to touch on the farming and the hiking trails and what you've done with the other what was the other eighteen holes, but talk more about just how many things you guys are doing there at Hokawala to kind of enrich the experience not only for guests but employees as well. Yeah. So, um, just the other night we did a Ohana night Ohana

rocking blow. Um. Remember when you guys came and we did like all our our employee event, but we did our rocking blow with them where we lit up the range with um with neon lights and um, we had like a volcano type type fire on each on each um not tea box, but the holes, and we had globe balls and we're hitting onto and we had live music and food and we had so much fun and had the employees come and enjoy that. They had a blast. I don't know what time we went at home that night,

but we had a blast. We had loungese and everything in cards and it was amazing. I kept thinking, dude, you guys should have been here for that, totally having fun. Huilani. We dined with Huilani at Huailani's from with food from farmer Samuel on the other golf course. It's become I mean, it was like that was that was the perfect day. Yummy, yumm. It was delicious. Can't thank you you. You know who was there right you know who was there right behind us?

Did you not? Yeah? That it was David Robinson, who you know when we're in the middle of shooting. By the way, he's an avid golfer, a big golf fan. When we're in the middle of shooting, he let his family go and he was It looked to me very uh you know, I feel very comfortable saying this. He was trying to sort of stick around and say hello, you know, because I'm I'm pretty certain that he was a golf channel watcher, so would have have seen maybe some of what we were doing. He's obviously saw we

were shooting. He stuck around, and but we were so immersed in the actual shooting of that last scene. He eventually gave up and kind of walked away and was like, I guess I'm gonna miss these guys. But I mean, I felt like the Admiral David we wanted to talk golf. The funny thing about that is, if you watch it back, you can see him. He's in the background, but he's heavily, heavily blurred out in the scene. I was like, I think that's something we're just blurring out David Robinson and

carrying on having ourselves time. Just good glass, good lens. Yeah, that was Hulani and Farmers, Samuel boxing out one of the greatest, you know, one of the greatest inside players in history. It's like, you know about defense, Yeah, good defense, good defense, and we appreciate it. I'm trying to protect that Portuguese being super we had, you know, I mean, thank god, Yeah, yeah, that was what thanks you guys for this time and this day, I gotta I got a head, I got a not a call to go on.

But you guys are all right on visit us to get hello, thank you, Okay, bye bye. I mean with golf in general, you know, they say you develop a connection to the land, right, but we literally, jest did its food and it tasted amazing. I've never had that sort of connection to you. I mean, it's kind of like hunting, right, you know, you you developed that connection with your food. It's through the process of hunt, you know, going out there, taking your dog and knife. I guess

you know, it's your relationship with the animal. And then uh, you know, it's a special experience to to then eat it and nurse your body with it. We did that with vegetables and through the hands of farmer sam but very similar Hulani. Obviously. We we had dinner at Hulani's with Hulani and we ate the food that was submitted by grown, cultivated by none other than and driven over, driven over by driven over by farmer Samuel and farmers Samuel is joining us now, Farmer Samuel, can you hear us?

How's it going, guys? Farmer Samuel, Um, I've i certainly we won't take this personally. But have you have you had a chance to watch the show yet? Oh? I watched it twice yesterday, back to back. Oh yeah, I was gonna play it in my car when I was driving home, but Ronnie gave me the common sense to not do that, so I I anxiously away as soon as I got home, like this is going on the TV. Yeah,

I was still. I I really really thought it was awesome and I I had no idea what exactly it was gonna be, and I was I was very you know, surprised and pleasantly surprised. It was really good. I mean, you know, we've heard, we've heard, we've heard from a couple of people now, but nothing means more to us than to hear from people like yourself who obviously care

so deeply about about this. You know, your reality, you know, in part became you know, the larger narrative of sustainability and and cultivation of natural resources and and then utilizing you know, those resources in a in a practical way that you know that that benefits more than just you know, it's it's giving back and not just taking. And so to hear, to hear you say, uh, you know that that you enjoyed it, and that that it was that it was true to sort of you know, the culture

of Kawaii means a lot. I learned quite a few things as well, seeing the old Gulf legends and the history of the different courses and just some of the stories that were sprinkled in there. Was it was. It was just very fun for me. It didn't feel like, oh I already know everything about Kauai and just kind of you know, absent mindedly watching it. I really was. I really enjoyed it. I think guys did a great, great job. Well, thank you. It means a lot. Well,

you know, at Patrick and Colt on here. Obviously Colt grew up in in Honolulu, and Patrick was flying the drones and getting those those up angles which are so valuable to a production like this to offer different visual perspectives of an addition to getting the perspectives from people like yourself on the ground. But uh, the the farm to me, you know, right out of the gates for us to spend that that morning with Hulani and then end up with you at the farm and then back

to the dinner in which we're eating what you've grown. Um, we were saying that if we ended the day there, we felt like we had a great show. That's not counting everything that happened after that that day. For us to spend that time with you was just very special. Let's do it again. Give us an update, giving us an update on the farm. What do we got, what's going on? What's hot right now? What are you delivering

to the to the to the restaurant this evening? And yeah, so let's see you guys were out here when was that December? Wow? Yeah, the time flies. Um, yeah, we got Ronnie on. I don't think she was nest working here technically at that point. Yeah, so we got she's now on the She is my the other employee. Now that's great. Um. Yeah, so that's that's been helping a

lot in every single aspect. Uh. And yeah, she just she She's gonna be a huge thing to offer because we're gonna be doing a lot more kind of making the farm not a background production thing exclusively, but also use it as a venue and be sure that it's part of the front facing experience of Timbers of Hokuala. So she's done a paint and sip and we did a golf event where we made cocktails with ingredients a percent from the farm, using kaloa rum and so fun

things like that. And we actually have our hollay, which is uh fancy word, but it is a very nice little thing we got, but it's our old sales trailer was brought out to the farm. It has a nice

lanai deck in front of it. So we have an actual permanent structure now out on the farm too, be able to really open our our horizons with what we can do out there, having a not only a place to get out of the rain and the wind, but um, a place to be able to make products on the farm, to be able to entertain and um, you know, make make memories out here and not just have it be kind of an island of the resort. I'm so excited

about that. We had a long dry winter January through March, not a drop of rain, so that was tough and very hot. But a lot of our trees got shocked and so we have mangoes galore coming right now, great citrus this year. Um. Yeah, that we're we're really renovating the entire field, changing it up. Half of the field is now going to become a community garden for tempers, guests and owners. So we're gonna be filling up these raised beds and have half that field dedicated to um

basically a community garden. So lots of stuff going on. It's overwhelming, but really really exciting stuff. That's so that is so cool to hear and and you know, to watch you in action, you and Ronnie in action, and to see all the different things that you're cultivating, and and uh and and your vision uh and uh to hear that even just since the December, how much, uh, how much you've been able to advance advance the ball

there is just I don't know, it's exciting. I I. We were saying, you know earlier that if only, you know, if you used kauaie E as a as a micro cause of of sort of the greater you know, mother Earth, and if and if we could take the messaging from from what's happening on kauaie not only what you're doing, but a lot of the other people in the show that we talked to in their efforts and what they're doing, if we could, if we could sort of instill that

into the mentality of of what's happening on planet Earth. Boy, wouldn't we be in a lot better place than we are right now? I think if more people have that mentality that you had right there, the world much much much better place. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. I couldn't agree more. And yeah it can. It can be tough, easy to lose hope. But you know why, why focus

on anything you can't control. Focus on what you're doing with your own two hands in front of you, and that is make that your entire reality and worry about nothing else. That's kind of what I try my best to do. Much easier said than done. Did he give you any? Did he give you any? A little more inspiration to know that a lot a lot more people were had the kind of same mentality and and and passion that you do, uh throughout the island. Yeah, it is.

It is really inspiring. Um. It makes me feel uh like there's so much more I could be doing and should be doing because you have these people that have dedicated their lives. Uh, you know, we really made true sacrifices. I feel like I'm living the dream right. I Mean, it just so happens that what I'm doing is also

a beautiful poetic thing. But um, you know, it's the the There are a lot of people that have turned down amazing not tutunities and sacrifice a lot because their passion is that strong to to protect the island, to protect their their history, of the culture, of their way of life. So I really really do respect that. Uh there's a great quote from a rapper, Uh that's the purpose of life. Is a life with the purpose. So I'd rather die for it cause than of the life

that is worthless. So it kind of brings that to my mind. Definitely is very very inspiring. For sure. I love that. I love it, and I love your other quote that we ended the meal with. You know what what what is it? What is above and and so below or yea, as above, so below, as within as without. Yeah, it's all it's wherever you can, you know, find a pattern in one place, you're gonna find that pattern reverberating throughout the entire universe. And it is this, this fractal

universe we live in. And uh, yeah, I wish I could have gone a little more in depth at you guys and think I think it was a little overwhelmed at the time when you guys visited. But yeah, just how you know, you look at how how soil we've used. Soil is living, its living matter, But really what what

makes soil better than other soil? Usually it's you have more decomposition and decay of once living things breaking down and these these microbes and bacteria breaking it down and turning that death into a positive fresh start for new life to come out. Uh. And I do think that that is this beautiful story that we can apply to the universe at at large, that while our life here might seem insignificant and our death may be such a scary thing, we are part of this beautiful cosmic scale

that you know. We we are absolutely crucial our lie and our death is crucial for everything. Man, It's about what you leave behind. Boy, I'll tell you right now. After hearing you and watching you in the field and doing what you do, I definitely feel very insignificant. I need to doired, fired, but insignificant. I need to do more. I am informed, I am inspired, but I am insignificant. So uh, I can't thank you enough. How many people get that experience. It's so cool that the guests are

you know, get that experience. Um as did we Uh, it's something that I feel like it's sort of inherent in everybody, Like you want to get your hands dirty and in the dirt and eat food that you've cultivated yourself. And when it's it's it's a fantasy for us, you know, for for of people. And to get that experience, especially with you, to be able to get in the dirt and learn about it and uh, you know, consume the fruits of our labor. Was was inspiring and I can't

wait to do it again. I would love to have you guys back out. Congratulations to Ronnie uh coming on board, give her, give her our best and uh and hugs all around, and and thanks again for your time that day.

And thanks again for your time now. I know you're probably one of the busiest guys on the island, but UH appreciate you and all your efforts and uh and and your heart and your soul and what you're pouring into what you're pouring into giving back and then and and what you're producing that um that I know, as as Colt says, the fruits of your labor are delicious. I can I can vouch and the the size of that thing that radish or whatever that was that we

pulled out of that ground. I still. I mean, that could have fed us for for a year alone, like a Thanksgiving turkey. Yeah, so that was the size of it, that's for sure. Um what with what Cold was saying, If I could just add one thing to that, I I really a theme of my life has been in all or nothing mentality, and I think that that is handicapped me time and time again. It's either a dent or it's not worth doing at all. And well, you know,

I know, I remember both. I mean I came from Orange County and sugar An, Texas, these these very nice, polished suburban areas, and I remember the romanticizing, you know, an episode of Survivor or seeing these things that seem so out of reach. Look at these people living in the moment, completely immersed in what they're doing. But I think it's it's so important to not be extreme with it. If you just go out and put your feet on

some grass, you're grounded to the earth. Smart start a small little raised bed garden and you're you know, apartment, you know, get some lights, whatever, just the little things that bring us back out of this this electronic system that we're living in and back into what God intended for us. Every little step towards that, even if it benefits nobody other than yourself, that's really what matters, because

it will send ripples throughout. If you benefit yourself with something real and pure, you will then have that realness and that pureness to give out to other things in the universe and it will make an impact. So anyways, like I said, informed, inspired and insignificant. That's why I feel anyway, So thank you, Thank you so much for that time. Farmer Shamuel. God speed on all your efforts, and uh, I cannot wait to see you again. I really look forward to that opportunity right back at you.

Love you guys, and aloha. Wow wow. I love doing these because I mean it totally. You know, we learned a lot while we were there, but you know, the sort of reflection, especially to get that chance to reflect with the people that we were there with. Man, it's just another level, you know, just kind of refocuses recenters you. It brings me right back into the arm learning just like learning from like from he's like he's farmer, he's like father Samuel. I mean that last little bit I

was like it was very relatable to me. It's somebody that's like in an alcoholic So I'm like, oh this way, Oh this way. It's like, actually, how about some balance in your life? You just try one little thing. I was like, I mean, it was so well said, and it was a good reminder and I don't know that obviously came from It was a piece of realness that he passed along to me. And I'm just looking at It's like, now I'm feeling better just having talked to him. So now I'm more equipped to go out in the

world and spread that. Um So this Zoom call is like he's He's infusing positive vibes through Zoom and I'm gonna go send out to ocean side here. Now I believe that that was cool the less a little bit. I think we're onto something here with fire Pit Journey recaps, bringing on s from the journeys after they've seen the show to be able to reflect and fill in the gaps and get our get an opportunity to kind of

think back on on the trip. And I don't know if this is as rich for a listener or and or a viewer as it is for us, but I'll tell you right now like this. This feels as good as anything I've I've ever done, being able to kind of check back in and here feedback and then you know again get get additional. As he said, well, I was overwhelmed by you here, but I would like to

reiterate a few things. It was like, Wow, giving giving people another chance to kind of uh communicate a message beyond what the you know what ended up in the edit is really cool experience and it is overwhelming. You know, the whole idea of making the planet a better place,

that's overwhelming. How the hell do you do that? And for you know, to have him give us the homework assignment of hey, start small, take your shoes off, walking the grass barefoot, you know, but I mean, you know, I've I've picked rocks when they were redoing the range at at goad Hill Park, or you know, going out with Uncle Ashy and and kind of jumping in on on some of what they're doing whole by whole as they continue to improve that land, and that experience, you know,

just just a little you know, taking one of the caddies from the Junior Caddy Academy, that in a way is is giving back to the future when connecting with kids you know will crop out there. Running the junior academies on Saturdays at three o'clock in the afternoon is an inspiring visual of just you know, it doesn't necessarily have to be land per se. It can be next generations. Um, and that there's something to be said for all this.

It's beautiful. I think about this trip and they're gonna be thinking about a lot more that that community spirit,

all those individuals and what they're doing. Uh. But if and if you connect all of those dots who alan the spirituality, the name of the buildings, Farmer Samuel and cultivating the land, and Uncle Arthur with you know, his eighty years playing, while Loua the mayor trying to take care of and preserve affordable golf at Wailua, Mary B. Porter King trying to help and inspire junior golf through First Tea, kay Lee E and all the efforts of

those gardens that they're doing. Uh and uh, there's sort of the Tarot roots and the cultivation of all that. I mean, you know, it just keeps keeps going, It keeps going on. In the Mackay Course, Principal Mackay, you know with um, the albatross birds and all the efforts that are being made there to make sure that they have a safe place to to continue to exist. I mean, you know, um uncle Arthur and and uh and and the canoes and what they've done to preserve the fisheries

there on. I mean the men you know, knocking back the mango plants. You connect all those dots and and then not to mention the the the sigement and the little quoit pie, but you connect all those dots and it's like that now it makes you feel like it's a bunch of individuals working towards one greater good and uh, really impactful stuff. All right, guys, Kelly now in the waiting room here he comes coming in? Are you but I'm man? Yeah, Kenny? And how it killing good? Bro goood?

And that I was watching a video last night when when a That was when a bah Keylee? Where are you right now? Right now? I'm at my base yard right now and kill a whale? Can have my equipment? You hunting? Hunting, hunting a wild board, dog, dog and knife. I wish, I wish, bro, Where were you this week? What have you been up to? Um? I uh was in my week Hulu and we were m helping that community community there to get their fishing rules together to

um go to legislature proposal. They're they're proposing their rules. We met with the state. There's a senator, there was the mayor, everybody there and so now it's the next step forward to go into the BLNR board and then from there they do their last public hearing and then hopefully the govern the signs off Achilles. That's the sort of build a community there. Uh, like you guys haven't Hagenna. Yeah, exactly,

they managed their fishing area, they didn't. They that's their place, you know, everything about their place, you know, not necessarily everything is the same, you know on each island, so um,

they they gotta do. Is really really a nice meeting, man, Yeah, a lot of people showed away, like EIGHTI is something people there, Yeah, Kiley, I think that you know obviously, you know, spending time with you and hearing your background, your family history, the history of the island as it relates to, Yeah, where it was, but more importantly sort of where it is now and where it's going and people like yourself, and then obviously that the other we

talked to like Huolani and the both uncle Arthur's and and uh and the farmer Samuel and and all these different you know, Mr mayor all these different touch points of how each individual is doing their part to try to create a sense of sustainability and a and a realistic future in which you know, you're not you're not you know, sort of over over using resources and sort

of running the island in the in the ground. What was your overall take of seeing how all these different all these dots are being connected as a part of a greater good for Kawaii that then can be used other islands and even on the mainland, and and and sort of the greater global effort. Yes, so, um, watching watching the video, like even with Pola on the end, I mean that was really nice to see that, you know that everybody is on that same pages. We have

to take care of our place. Um, it was like that before, you know, before you didn't get all these uh supermarkets that you have today. You know, So for me, I I I like what I like what everybody was really aware of. You know, well, we gotta be prepared if anything, you know, we get we get generations to come and if we don't set a good example and and do what we're supposed to do, then we're gonna

be lost. We're gonna be lost, you know. Um So saying like this community that I went, we went to go and support h and they're on Maui, so that's a different island that that. We're all the dogs all connect, right, you know, from from here on. I mean, it's all when we connect. It is getting everybody there while doing what you just did, you know, but doing this interview, doing you know, getting all the knowledge and and uh from each and every one of us, best practices, lessons learned,

sharing information, uh, you know, winning that award. You know, we we documented that in the in the show and the award that you want, and you know, some people didn't know. We've talked to a lot of other people who have who were on the show, who learned a lot by watching you and understanding you know, like you might have learned something from watching them. They're learning from you these lessons, learning best practices then can then be shared,

you know. Yeah, yeah, and that's what it is. You know, when we went to the Equator Prize award, I mean, if people's had seen these people, how they were struggling in the world and they still got picked out of door countries top twenty two. You know, they're doing something right, but they're struggling to you know, it's sat in my heart in in a couple of like Brazil um um. These people living at Amazon, you know, they cannot talk

good they cannot talk good English. They can they didn't even have money to come out of the hotel room to go buy stuff. You know, that's how way back it was. And to watch to watch them express themselves in what they they're going through, you know, oh man, it really is toff man. And that's why we say, you know, we we need to get on board and do ours, do our things, you know, so we don't we don't get in that realm. We're gonna teach, we're gonna we we have everything put on a patty there

for us by all couponas you know. We gotta take advantage of what they had shall with us, you know. But it was amazing, It was unbelievable. Mhm. Choin might be a small spot, but it seems like everybody there has really expanded their horizons, you know, mentally kind of thinking taking themselves out of the present. Yeah here and now all about me, me, me and really thinking about the past and the future. Yeah, it's a lot. I like that. What what Matt? What was saying to you know?

It's and was it Matt with pool any and I think it was. I forget who it was. But it wasn't about me. It's about we. And that's the point there. It's about we, we all, not me. I know. That's all out. That's that. That's you. You're on the wrong page with with us, you know. Yeah, that was with Zeke at at poi poo bay. I think we were

kind of having that conversation. Yeah, it was about uh and you know that that's we've talked to you know a lot of people again, even just on this podcast after they've watched the show and and and it's it's you know, and we've talked about it also. How to try to make global change can get really overwhelming. You can kind of easily say, ah, screw it, Uh it's too much, I can't have I can't make any change.

But if you start with your own community, and if everybody starts in their own community, and eventually those dots get connected, just like you guys are doing in Kawaii right, used the island of Kawaii as a microcosm of the

greater good. And if people like you and Farmer Samuel, and Hulani and and and and and Zeke and and the mayor and everybody has that Mary b Porter king about the kids and I want to give back, you know to what if everybody has that mentality in their own community, well then that becomes a state mentality, which becomes, you know, a country mentality, which becomes a global mentality. Yeah, yes, yes,

that's that's the goal, man. You know, that's the goal to get we can go global even better, you know, and like like we're saying, you know, we we we haven't. Uh we have people that are thinking on the same page as we all are, and that would be something we could you know, and it will come. I I believe it will come. It has to. Yeah. Yeah. The farmer Samuel give us a nice little piece of advice. We just talked to him. Uh, you know, we said, what what can we do? You know? He said, start small,

take your shoes off, walk barefoot on the ground. Start there. You know, it kind of just become grounded. Bird. You gotta get grounded with the land, get grounded and really look at the whole picture. You know, sometimes you need to sit down and just look around your look around you you know what what you have. You know, like I come here to my my base yard, you know, every morning, and this is where I spent all my time.

So being grounded to the to the area, being grounded to life in all this is what we do when I come back down here, growing our own food. Yeah, you know, And and that's what it's it's all about. I mean again, it's we get people behind us coming. I have grandchildren, I have my my children, and so we gotta put him in that steps and we gotta do the right we're supposed to appreciate that, you know. Um uh, what was his name? The farmer, farmer Samuel.

When my wife, my wife watched this yesterday when I got back, we watched this. She knows him. He used to work with my wife at the Elti Hut in Kilue, and so when my wife saw him on that, she was like, yes, boys, so cool. And you guys can't see this, but I'm as a no deparmer fam. I'm doing this podcast with my shoes off, bare feet, it's working already, Okay, Kelly, so give us, give us. You know I love the dog and knife thing is just

killing a wild boar. So give us a little quick glimpses to how you kill a wild boar with dog and knife. Well, the first thing is training the animal to trust you, the dogs to trust you, Yeah, because you know they're in a battle with with this wild boar. And and if they don't have trusting you in being a team to work together, you're know we're gonna get closer that peak. What if you you take care of them. It's like my kids, their family of us. We take

care of them. And when you put when you take them out, it's bread in them. Yeah, it's the bloodline that they have in them to to go do that. And it's taking them out and teaching them how you want them to hunt. And then when they went once they get to a certain age, it's like raising a baby. You know, when they get older, you don't have to feed them all the time or show them whatever. You know they need to know. They're gonna know already I

start my cup Saturday morning. They know where we're going, you know. So um, it's getting the trust in an animal, and they know where to hold the pig and you go you, you go on, you know you. We usually go from the back of the pig and then we poke them in the hot on the side and we're right in the back of the right shoulder. That's where you bleed them with this where the heart is. So you need good the good dogs. They're gonna trust you to do that. Yeah. What kind of breed of dogs?

What kind of breed of dog are we talking about? Um, we use a lot of we gotta cross with air Dale with a little bull in them, the aggressive, but Airdale is is really a good a good breed along with a little hound in them. M hm. How fast? How fast are these these boards and these dogs of me? Are they? It's a pretty good chase and you gotta run to get up there or they get them down and you have some time to kind of compose yourself. Yeah.

Sometimes times it's like when we go to the area and um, you know you again, then you know where to go where you know they move in every week they're in a different spot, so if you kind of get their route, how they're moving. Yeah, sometimes it takes us five minutes, so it takes us an hour, but um, usually we we go and you know, we spend It's kind of in a way, it's not fun when when it's over in five minutes. You know, you get to see the mountain and all that. But it's it's that's

part of hunting. Believe the next part next time we come back. Listen, we're gonna we'll be right behind you on this on this hunt will be way behind you, you know what I mean, We'll be we'll be we'll be there. But we gotta I gotta see this. You gotta be in a front with us, followly seeing everything. Man.

You know, it's it's really need to watch. And you know, especially when you raise the young dogs and and there putting out man, that's you know, like this this is the first pig they're battling, you know, and the way they move and the way they fight with the boards, it's really like two boxes, you know. I mean, it's a pretty it's a pretty what what a what a talk about being grounded? I mean, you know out there in the wild dog and knife wild boar, I'm not

he gets more natural than that. You guys always welcome me on, man, when you guys call them you need my help. Well, we appreciate, we appreciate, we appreciate you. We appreciate that day we had together. I'm glad we

were able to uh have that match. We didn't we know we might not have one, but we didn't lose, you know what I mean, I think we title man, Well, I tell you what you what you did when you know, I handed a couple of awards after going through the photos here and you you you hands down best on course style. I mean, you had the hat, the color scheme was good, and some of the photos I got were of you or some of my favorites. You just you're an animated character on the on the golf course.

It was cool to watch. I mean that was that was enjoyable to to watch back and and and look at the photos. Um. I mean, if nothing else, you're you're blinding him with style and there there's a huge advantage there. So congratulations on the on Course of Style award. Again, thank you guys. Man. You know it was really not it was. I really enjoyed myself. I love sharing this kind of history. I love sharing our our way of life, you know, and do it in on the golf course.

In that way. I mean that was really I had a touching moment when you know, we went back and we said, you know, on the ranch, I was I was young Roman. This land here on horseback, this is all cattle. I mean now thinking back, yes, that was like wow, man, you know, I thought back, how how it was then, and and so it we got to move on with our life. We have to move. It's never going to stay, to say, but we have to find the right way to do it, the best pot

no way that is everybody benefits you. Really. We found some some great photographs in the Hawaii State Archives of Color LAO, and we put them there in the video. There's a couple of black and white ones, and there's the one kind of you know with the mountains and the background the horse there a little little canoe kind of tied up there. It's from like the fifties or sixties or somewhere somewhere in that time frame. But anyway, kind of you know, talking with you really brought us

back there. It's cool to see some of the photos from back in the day as well. Yeah, and you know I should have told you, folks, maybe I try to find the the art ball my dad. But when he left the ranch, the ranch it grows down. He got into the fire department and back there. Like I said, we didn't have the helicopters to do rescue, so that the rescue the helicopter was all the horses. That's how the trail to my dad, I always when we need

to go do a rescue. Now going back in his he's growing up there, the horse was was a car for him from cold. They would put a bag of taro on the horse, let him out in the evening and when they hike out and the wanting the horses waiting waiting for them at the end of the road down the cave m with the bag of taro. So that's how they used to That was the delivery truck.

You know. That's incredible. If I ever come across this, I'll try to find it, but it may be in the old if you maybe go back to the fire department Fireman of the Year. They have a beautiful article my dad and he's on the horse and his name is Samson Mahoike. But I'll try to see what I can. If I do, I'll just get back beautiful Kelly. What a pleasure to to be able to connect with you catch up again after the after the show. It was great to see you at the time. Uh, I'll partner

with you any day. Uh. And my my wife thinks you look like Bruno Mars, so I think I was like, he looks it looks like you know. And uh, just hard not to hard not to be impacted by your passion for your land, for your for your island, for your culture, and for your people. And uh, anything we can do to try to help spread the word or celebrate some of your successes and accomplishments, and you're hyper focus on the future. We're here for you. So thank you.

Mollow's killing you. Thank you, thank you. I like the clothing that you guys did on that on that on that US project that we did, you know, the closing the very end way. We need to teach the people the respect and and that was really beautiful. That was nice. Thank you, Thank you for teaching us. I'm here. You guys got my number. We'll go do it, okay, Thank you, Bud, thank you, Kelly, appreciate, thank you, love you, but love you.

Thank you. Yes, these people are so special, you know, yeah, unbelievable. Well, you know, we get and he's walking around his yard. He shows us the plots of of garden that he's he's you know, he's gardening and growing his own food. He shows us the smoker where he you know, he smokes the pigs that he goes hunts with dog and knife. It's not just saying it. This guy is living. These people that's none of none of these people that we've

spoken to just say it. They live. It's a great point. Yeah, I mean it's like we know, it's not like he's playing any of the stuff. We just kind of hey, let's let's chat. What are you doing? And then at any given time he's doing something. He's out, you know, working on a fishing project for the community. He's he's

you know, growing stuff right there. I mean it's, um, it's proof that at any point in time you could you can ring these folks up and they're they're they're living in you know, Arthur Chow from Kyola wasn't able to jump on the podcast because he's building somebody's house like that is it's just a definition of community. Well, look at Hulani out on the golf course, you know, almost getting hit by a golf ball. Um, we have

farmer Samuel the only quiet place I can talk. Let me leave the farm and go hang out in my car, you know, Kelly College, from college, from the from his yard where you know, next to the pig smoker. I mean, it's just, uh, it's amazing. It's a full spectrum of one side not knowing what the hell is going on or what you're doing, and the other side is these guys experts living that lifestyle or somewhere in the middle. At least we're aware and we're out there trying to

learn these lessons. And I think that's that's an important first step, you know. It's Uh, every time I go to Hawaii, I feel like, I mean, it's such a vast contrast from most of the United States, and when I go there, I do feel like it's another it's another country and they've got a different mindset compared to a lot of folks in the US. And um, yeah, you like you said, it's like we're aware, Um, but it's we're not immersed in it like like it is when you go over there. Um you would you would

absolutely change your ways and fall into that. Like he's like I think it was. The mayor said you're gonna stick out like a like a sore thumb, and very quickly I think you would, you would fall into that culture and change your your behavior, your way of thinking. Um. So it's it's cool to showcase that because they're onto

something special and un quiet. But you know, again, it comes down to that island is a is a it's it's a small space compared to you know, the the you know, sort of North America for example, you know what I mean, like California, you know, so but if if we shrink, you know, look, and I bring this up all the time, but in our community, look no further than John Ashworth who saved go to Hill Park.

Like when I say the people are living it, you don't go out to go to Hill Park without seeing John with a shovel in his hand or a rake or he's out there. He's the last man and the maintenance crew parking the maintenance cart. Like you know, he's doing something about his community. And I think it is happening here in the mainland. You know, we're trying to protect you know, municipal golf from being churned up and turned into low income housing. But it doesn't it doesn't

mean we don't support low income housing. Where can we find low income housing to help people who are struggling to find a place to live. The answer to me is not churning up municipal golf. But John's point is, but let's try to figure out a better solution. Let's stop the the assault on municipal golf, which is accessible golf that leads to you know, the the affordable golf that leads to these life lessons that teach people to have integrity, and and and and and connect with the land.

But let's also try to figure out where we can put people low income housing that to me an ocean side is an issue. Is let's protect municipal golf, but let's solve this homeless. This homeless problem mental health issues that are around us in our community everywhere we turn. I think the key there that you said is leads to right, these are macro issues, but as we see, you know, through all of these guys on Kauaite, through

John Ashworth, they're taking care of it at the micro level. Right, it starts small like Kwaite, as you said, is a very small place. Yet the point I brought up earlier is like their mindset is on a different level than everybody said is wide. It is massive, you know it it uh, it includes the past, the present, and the future. You know, we only think about here now. You know, like they might be living small with their but their minds are you know, at a different level. And he

said it my kids, my grandkids. You know, think about that, like if everybody thought about the quality of life, not for you now and not necessarily even for your kids now, but for their kids. If we started thinking about every buddies third generation from now, we would live so much differently and we'd be on the right path. Well you know the answer that's right there in front of us. And these guys are you know, these guys are kind enough to to show us the way. Yeah, they're they're teaching.

It was a it was a learning lesson and experience for the visit and and you know, hopefully the video does that for the viewer, which is a powerful thing, um that we can do. So it's cool to feel like, hey, you know, small steps. It's like, hey, we took some small steps here. We did we did we did a thing um that might matter. So and I agree with your your optimistic outlook Patrick, where you know, if you find yourself in that environment, then you adapt to it.

I think it's all innate in us. You know, it's just up to us to actually put ourselves in that situation. And it starts with taking your shoes off. Barefoot pod could be a new thing, can it? Can it? Can it start by taking our shoes off and going to go to Hill Park on mandatory golf Friday, on this beautiful Friday afternoon and ocean side man, the timing, perfect timing, am over over and out. That sounds good to me. Put another log on the fire. Nobody here is get the time.