Fire Drill 043: Thoughts from the International Team Room

thoughts in my head. Can't get John nothing thing what I'm thinking about my head, can't get him now, Nothing think what I'm thinking about. Hello and welcome back to another Fire Drill podcast. This is Alan Schipnuk joined by Michael Bamberger in Philadelphia. Jeff Ogilvie in St. Andrew's, Scotland. He's there for the Unhill links. Came straight from the President's Cup, So let's just get to it. Jeff, First of all, how are you feeling? Are you are? You? Are? You? Are?

You've worn out? Are you run around? Emotion? Like? What is the state of being right now? I'm pretty tired? Um it's now? What is it now? In? Is it Wednesday yet? No? It's the Tuesday night for me. I went to the last I last slept on Sunday night for a little bit. Um yeah, um, so tired from all the traveling last week, but I'm still pretty high on last week. We had a really good time. It was it was a super fun tournament. Um, I feel like we did really well. We had an unbelievable atmosphere

in the tame room and um yeah, great fun. And now I'm at the old course. So it's like I'm having a pretty good run. That's a great run. I mean, we knew that the Internationals were going to be underdogs, obviously missing a few potential, you know, key building blocks with their defection to Live golf. So the outcome was not a shock. But I think for just watching at home, the team spirit, the energy, the vibes, Captain Imbleman's leadership.

Obviously Tom Kim turned into a star. I mean just take us into the team room and inside the ropes like didn't Obviously you guys are disappointed to lose, But what did it feel like to to you to the international team coming coming out of that that performance? Yeah, I mean, look it felt good or week. Um, Trevor did just an unbelievable job as captain. I mean, Ernie sort of, I don't know, turned the ship around if

you like. Um, I think we've been kind of trading water a little bit as a team, and Ernie sort of gave us the shield and sort of created a bit more of an identity to the team, and sort of Trevor just jumped up and just ran with it, um and just expanded on everything that sort of any stuff at it and spoiled us rotten and hadn't really set up incredibly well, and it was just a great atmosphere from the start. It was. It was an incredible team and so we we still have started rough. Obviously

there's a Friday. First two sessions, Um, we sort of put ourselves behind the eight ball. But I think Saturday Sunday we kind of we won. We won the last two days if you like. We didn't win the session on Sunday, but if all the points over the last sort of three sessions, we got more and a few heroes were born and some pretty cool moments. It was a pretty it was. It was a super fun tournament and probably the best one I've been involved with so far. Jeff,

you see these young. You've seen a lot of young players come up through the years. You've seen Roy Chicawa, and you've seen Jordan's Speef and lots of other twenty year olds. Where would you put Mr Kim on the on the spectrum? How do you how do you see his golfing life unfolding? Yeah, I mean the future is bright, I think. I mean we hadn't really. I mean, I guess if you're an area an Avid golffeller or you sort of might have seen him coming, but most people

didn't see him coming. And all of a sudden in summer he started having top tens and then one a tournament and now he's in the President's Cup and he's a hero like Um, he was part of beating Sander Choffle and Patrick Kentley, so it's a pretty unbeatable pairing to this point. And I mean they've been incredible. So um, he's certainly number one in the enthusiasm steaks. Um. He was incredibly fun. He was up and about all week.

He was the same in the team room as as you guys saw on the broadcaster at the tournament, just full of enthusiasm. I guess when you're twenty it's sort of that's more your headspace. But yeah, he was. He was so much fun, and he was so excited, and he didn't want to back down, and he was happy to get big matches and big games. He kind of wanted those big moments, you know, and he certainly thrived in at some of the celebra otions were um, celebrations

were sort of contagious, you know. I mean, even the US crowd, which is usually sort of pretty one sided, they sort of all got on Tom Kim's side as well because he was just so much fun to watch and um, yeah, incredible. I think he's got a great he's a great, great future. He hits them all really well, he's got a great mind obviously, just sort of get himself so high and then get him back ready to play the next hole. And he was massive in the big moments. I mean, it's hard to explain to people

who haven't. I mean, people can sort of understand sort of first team nerves and maybe a bit of pressure and sort of a member guest or normally even just a little golf of it or something, but the pressure that you're feeling these sort of tournaments is more than

a major by a long way. I think because you're sort of carrying your whole team on your back for those little moments, and when you've got your whole team driving up in carts and following and in the eighth grade getting surrounded and you're holding a big part like that, pretty impress if so. I mean, I think one of the measures of a golfer is how well they handled those big moments. And he handled all the big moment really really well, and and had looked like he was

having the time of his life. What was your favorite moment of the week, Jeff, There was a few. I mean Tom and see we're beating Xander and Patrick was pretty fun. Maybe I think seaweed holding is burdying the last to beat JT. I think um JT is probably shaping up to be probably the hardest guy in the

world to beat in that style of event. Loves going out first, Love sort of sending the tone and he sort of revs up the crowd and plays up the fist pumps and sort of it's it's got that feels sort of like the Mchael Roy Patrick read sort of match like that really sort of ultra high level sort of egg each other on sort of try to antagonize each other a little bit and see we're coming up the last and just hitting it close and making the part.

That was the level that they played out for the last night Holes of a Mad I mean, Kuyle Hollow last week was really really hard. Like arguably I would say it was probably set up a little bit too hard for a match play tournament. UM. And the way those guys, some of these guys finished that that tournament off, and the way to see we played on Sunday, um just incredible. So when you see we made that part in the last hole, it was a pretty pretty amazing feeling.

What did you think of of Justin and his uh kind of bitchiness about having to hold out you know, three ft puts in a tense match. What was your take on that. I don't I don't get that sort of thing. I mean, I think that's all part of

match player. I think that. I think I think for the think the US guys don't grow up playing a lot of match play and the whole game around gimmes sort of once that mind game is kind of mind games strategy to sort of gimmes and giving and not giving him, And I think it's all part of the It's part of match players a game, um, and look part of justin JT's reaction is is part of the game as well. You know, that's his mind games on

the way back. So it's all, it's all, it's all in a good spirit, and he handled it really well, j T. I I don't love when people complain if it's they don't get given a part of me, if it's such a give me just part of it, tap it in, you know. I mean, if it's like, if you're never going to miss it, then what does that matter if you put it you know. Um. Yeah. But again,

I think it's all part of the game. I mean, he's so invested in what he's doing, j T, which is why he's so good at match play, um, and so good in those moments that you can't be that invested and that intense and not sort of have those sort of moments, you know. So I just think it all adds to the drama, and I think it's all part of it. And I'm pretty confident there's no hard feelings at the end of the game. I just think that's kind of what's going on during the match, And

of course it's not a game. If it was a gimme, it would have been given. Obviously it's missible. Uh So you know this is a gipper talking. But I'm I'm I'm totally I'm totally with you. Um, Jeff, There's there's only one person on the ground who probably had more experience at team events um than Fred, and it would have been I think your former neighbor Bones Jim McKay. What kind of presence do you see for McKay at

these team events. It's just astounding how many of them he's been at, going back to their to the early nineties would pay those two are I mean, he's Bones must have been it. I don't know how many has he been at he's been it. It would go back to the ninth Yeah, I mean I could know at least because it goes back to the ninety four Ryder Cup or thirty. I mean, it's just he's been it Cup year. That would have been Phils first. Um, so close to thirty Yeah, incredible, Um, And what a sort

of asset for j on his bag. Yeah, it was great to have him their Bones. It's good to see him back on the bag. I mean, I enjoyed listening to his commentary. But he's back doing what he loves doing, and um, it just adds to all the theater and the drama of the whole thing, you know. It's um yeah, he's seen a lot over over the years. He's seen the U S win some when some amazing tournaments, amazing team events. He's seen him lose a few Ryder Cups at least. He's been on both sides of sort of

the thing. Um, yeah, it's great, It's it's great to have that sort of experience. I mean, it's like we had Adam Scotty playing on our team and he's played ten of these things now and he he commands such a presence in the team room and um it's sort of is as much a leader as anyone else in the room. So it's bones I'm sure has the same effect in the US room. And when he starts talking, everybody listens, and there's no substitute for experience and those things.

It's interesting, you know, the US now one or it's been nine in a row since they've they've lost a President's Cup. And there was there was some talk ahead of this event that, uh, maybe they need to blow up the President's Cup and rethink it because it's too lopsighted. I like Trevor Immelman's fire at the end. He clearly

took exception to that statement. And really, when you look at the last four President's Cups, Royal Melbourne last time round was fantastic two thousand fifteen, it was a nail biter, was decided by one point, and even though this one wasn't close, it was still memorable and there's a lot of spirited play. So can we safely say that the the demise of the President's Cup has been premature? Absolutely? I mean if anybody, anybody who was there last week

would would be blown away by that sentiment. It was an It's an incredible tournament. It creates an unbelievable atmosphere. I mean that that the final score is almost flattering to the US a little bit. I mean, with an hour and hour and a half to go, it was if you looked at the leader board and everything you stopped it there, we were going to be really really close.

I mean had about two thirty probably two thirty three o'clock, it looked like we were a reasonable chance to win the tournament, you know, I mean, so I think it was closer to the end. Leader board suggests we obviously were way behind, but we had a great Saturday. Sunday was was going really well. See, we sort of started

off amazing with that win. And there was a lot of black on the board when he won that, and I sort of counted down and kept looking at the score board and looking down my phone to see what was going on. And it's like, well, we could actually win this thing. So and it seemed the US guys you could tell that, hang on a minute, this thing's on here a minute, we better start paying attention. Clearly they were paying attention before, but um, yeah, it's it's

just an unbelievable event. I think all that talk beforehand, it's just I don't know, it's just trying to get reactions or something, or selling newspapers or I mean, this is your guys, world, but anyone who's ever I think, and you guys are both being to President's Cups and been around and felt the atmosphere, and it's an incredible event and it's only going to grow. The international golf is really really strong. I mean, I mean, we can't forget that this US team that's being fielded at the

moment and these Wryter Cups and President's Cups. Is maybe one of the best teams of all time. I mean, it's unbelievable sort of combination of young enthusiasm who have really brought into this sort of team event thing which might have happened for a while. And you've got You've got Patrick Cantle and Zana chaff who are sort of best friends and an unbelievable pairing. You were justin Thomas

and George's spaces who have just incredible chemistry. We're developing Scheffler and Burns, all top ten players in the world at all. Unbelievable combinations and good friends. I mean, you get three borderline unbeatable sort of pairs in your team and it's a pretty hard team debate. So um, this it's it's the US is in a really sort of

great period of their sort of tame golf. And I mean, it wasn't that long ago everyone was talking about what hows the US ever gonna win e Rodic up again, you know, And now you look at it's like how that is? And We're never gonna beat them? So that's what's so great about them. You have sort of these pikes and troughs of teams and sides, and it's it's it's fun for the US right now, and it's sort of it's a great challenge for the internationals and for for Europe to sort of find a way to sort

of win one of those things. Job. I know there you're different events, but there's a lot of similarities. The right to cup in the prisons go of course, the European Tour, well, let me rephrase, um, Europe decides for itself who's going to be on its team. Uh, just for the for the for the late listener, do you think it makes sense for the Pug Tour to dictate to the international team who can and cannot be on it's team. Um. I don't think there's a bit of

there's a load in that question. There's a loaded question. Um, just give it to a street Jeff, come on if you if you are suggesting that should live player has been have been allowed to play, I don't think they should have been. No. Um. I think that the international team should have its own identity and control the way the team is sort of picked. I think if the PGR two has probably got a right to sort of decide the pool of players that you can pick from.

It's their event, um, and they set the rules for the event, just like the U S g A sets the rules for the U S Open and well GUSS sets the rules for the Master's. I mean the presidents come to PGR two event and they set the rules for the tournament. So UM, but I definitely think that the international team should should and his growing sort of once they control. But um an equal sort of say in the matter. Um, we had some merch in the tent last week. You saw some people that there was

sort of it wasn't half of the tent. Clearly, it's never going to be in the US Ryder Cup, but I think in the international ones it's going to be close to half the ten or more our merchant. I think gradually you'll see the shield and the international sort of merchandise sort of popping up in the crowd. We started seeing it last week and um, it's becoming a

real thing. And if you actually think about it, I mean the US the US team is going to have three million supporters and the international team is going to have six billion. Um. Theoretically, Um, there's the supporter base for the team is potentially massive, um and everybody, and and that should be just taken as it is. The US is clearly the strongest country engulf by a long stretch,

and it's fun to try to beat the best. Um. So yeah, I think I think that the international team should have sort of a lot of saying and the team and how it operates and how we set up our sort of awakened how it's all structured. Absolutely, because I think it's only two golfs benefit that this tournament thrives, and um, the international team gets the great crack auditor that they deserve. I mean, the shield is really cool.

It looks like a superhero logo. I'm a fan without a doubt, And um, you know, obviously it was a subtext. This whole President's Cup was live golf in the background, and the players who were there weren't there. But I think in some ways the US team was helped by

the way this is all shaken out. And clearly they missed Ustin Johnson, who went five and oh at the last president at the last Ryder Cup and is playing beautiful golf right now like he would have been an asked, there's no question but to get rid of Bryson de Shambo, Patrick Reedham, Brooks Kepka, who are are three of the spikiest personalities in golf. I guess would be a polite way of seeing it. Um. I mean, Jeff, did you detect a different camaraderie and team spirit on this US

team than some previous incarnations? Are they certainly? Yeah, they're they're They're are They've got a great sort of thing going on the US team. M as I said, They've kind of got three sets of best friends who are all young. They're all top ten in the world. Um, and there's I mean, I'm not even putting Colamara Kawa in there, who's obviously an unbelievable golfer. Um Cam Young who that's the first time I've actually seen him play up close a few times. I mean, the way that

guy hits the ball, it's just unbelievable. Um. Yeah, they've got they've got some really good stuff. And Scotti chef well, scottis Cheffler unerstand as he was in the thing. He's got number one in the world. Um. Yeah, it's it's a they're they're in a good spot. I feel like there was that period. Um, I feel like Tiger and Phil ended up sort of really having sort of great

sort of passion for the Ryder Cup. Um, but I don't know if they really sort of fully were embraced in it like say a Sergio or Monty was for Europe. You know. Um, but now I feel like they really do have seven Almost the whole team room just really enthusiastic about this team events. They seemed to really really enjoy the contest. Um look forward to it. I mean the yeah, I think they've got The US team has got a really has got a lot going for it

at the moment. And it's the talent is so deep too, like you say, and you say, sparky personalities, but there's some fair talent that's that's not there as well. And to consider that the team is as good as it is without Brooks, kept care and Dustin Johnson and um, it was only a few years a guy that Patrick Grade looked like he was going to be like the most unbeatable match player in these tame events we've ever seen. Um,

and he's not there. Bronson's not there. It's Um, it's incredible how deep American golf is at the moment and how good it is. Yeah, and even and Tiger is Tiger, but you know his Ryder Cup record is is mediocre at best. You know it was he was such a big personality. I think he intimidated some of his teammates, and he was an introvert, and he created unusual dynamic in the locker room. And Phil loved these team events, but he sucked all the auction out of the room.

So even losing the two the greatest players in the last well the greatest player of all time and one of the second best in the last thirty years, in some ways seems like a net positive to the U S team because you know, those guys were there home their personalities and some of the baggage that came with both of them. So yeah, it just felt like this US team was had a together in a sit that is rare and it is fun to watch. And of course that was also the case with the way this

international team bonded. I mean, what did what did you do? And what did Trevor do? And and the other guys around the scenes help foster this atmosphere where these guys came together from different tours, different countries, different parts of the world, and yet they seemed they seemed so cohesive and tighten it, Like, what do we not see that they went into that there was a lot she didn't see. Yeah,

I mean Trevor just did such a good joke. He just was so passionate and enthusiastic about sort of the role and this team. Um he'd been I mean the communication. I mean that they've been chat groups on the phone. We've been chatting and communicating since the day after Royal Melbourne,

you know, three years ago. Um. And he put him in Calman to his wife, put so much of their time in this and they they just Sushton pushed and pushed to make it the best possible environment for the players, and from as soon as everybody arrived, it just felt really really good. Um. I mean it's then then we don't need to describe all the little things that he did. But just the passion and enthusiasm I guess which is an enthusiasm is infectious. He gred some, he gave us

some great rousing speeches and made it a lot of fun. Ah, and just it wasn't hard. You didn't have to buy in. It was just it's just like I'm on this train, Like the train came past and I'm jumping on this because this is the train I want to get on. You know, it was just um from from Monday morning Sunday night, Monday morning. It was just like, Wow, this is this This week is going to be fun. It's

a little bit different. The young guys, eight rookies, all just so excited to be there, just blown away by how sort of big these events. I mean, I think it takes you by surprise the first time you get to one of these things, how big they are. When you ahead house sort of on one level, has spoiled you're getting on another level, how big to build out of the golf courses and sort of how how nervous you are on Thursday morning, and sort of it's just it.

They just feel really amazing and exciting and big and full of pressure, and it's like kind of the ultimate test of you as a golfer. And I think Trevor just sort of created this sort of I don't know if family like bond that just it was very early in the week. I mean, I think early President's Cups that I was involved in, and I feel like all the way back to the start, because we bring so many sort of nationalities and cultures together in the same room.

Usually by Saturday or Sunday, we were like an incredible team, but Trevor sort of got that achieved on Monday morning. Um yeah, because of and it was the lead up. It's not just the week. It's lots of team meetings, lots of dinners throughout the year, sort of practice rounds

all the time with prospective teams. I mean sort of the collective group or twenty five or so players who could potentially make the team at sort of the start of sort of all in the mix, you know, and it's like it's it's a big group from the beginning. And um and as I said, like it said, it's it's a collective. It's collectively every country can sort of unite in trying to beat sort of the best team in the world. You know. It's just just an incredible job.

And it was just exciting. Like it's that they're so tiring those weeks, especially as the captain, um, because every night you're sort of debriefing and working out what you're going to do tomorrow and sort of strategizing and sort of going through all that stuff every night, so you're not getting a lot of sleep. And you're having really long days. But it was just so it didn't take any like the alarm goes off, Bang, I'm getting up again. I get to do this again. And it was excitement.

So it's just fantastic weeks and Trevor sort of he steered the ship incredibly well and made us all want to go along with him. Just it was sort of an Trevor isn't that well known to the American golf audience was sort of an introduction to him, but will get a really much bigger one come in April when he does his first Masters. Can you share with those any insights you might have about what kind of broadcaster

Trouble will be at the Masters next year? Well, I think anyone who watched some of his media conferences next year will sort of see how classy and elegant he speaks, and it's well thought out um and a lot of passion there. I mean, he's been a golfer since. I think he could stand up Trevor and passionate one. And he loves the game. He's sort of a true he's a true golf fan as well as being an unbelievable golfer.

And he's yeah, I think he's his announcing I think, I mean, if anybody's been watching CBS in the last few years sort of, I hope that they enjoy his sort of analysis and the way he says the game. And I think he'll be He will be really good. He'll do his research, he'll work really hard. Um. He wants to be great at anything he does. UM. And he's very well spoken and and he thinks about thinks about what he's saying and quite eloquent. I think, um.

And I mean, I mean there was getting standing ovations coming back into the team room after his media conferences every day because if sort of the team was watching it that the TV's in the team room and everyone start of watching sort of how he's doing it the stuff. And UM, I think he'll be great. I don't. I think they've picked the perfect person. You know, you mentioned Kim Young, and we touched on Tom Kim, but who else really impressed you, you know, seeing them up close

inside the ropes like you did. Um, San Burns I saw up close for the first time, and wow, he's really really, really good. Um. He handled the big moments really well. He um hits it incredibly far, drives the ball really really well. He looks like he's got a really impressive future. Um, Scottie Scotti, Cheffley, it's at further than I thought. Um, he was hitting the miles. Um

cam Davis was great. I mean the way he stood up on Saturday afternoon, him and Scotty played one of the highest level sort of best balls I've ever seen, especially coming down the stretch. It was amazing. I mean cam Davis finished eagle Bertie Bertie for them to win, for them to win that match, and Scottie and was making Bertie Bertie Bertie as well on those last three holes. I mean it was just and as I said, quaital

hollow is, it was not set up easy. Those creens were rolling really really fast and the pins weren't easy. And Um, cam Davis was impressively. Here's the ball really well, said Cheffler, sort of impressed me. I mean, tom Kin was amazing. Seawork Kim was just outrage It was just outrageous. I mean he's that. I mean, I guess if you don't really really, if you haven't been inside the ropes and seaward him. I played with him, um or sort of watched him play up close. She's probably like, way,

I see where Kim's beating Justin Thomas. I don't get how that happens. But like anybody who's ever played, we see who knows how is how high his ceiling is as society as anybody's. Um, and he just loves the big moments. He's just incredible. I followed him around quite a few holes two or three of his matches that living in National and seventeen, and like, I saw something pretty special in the big moments and he uh, he did it again. He was incredible to look, they all

played so well. I mean, look, golf, I haven't really been inside the ropes that much in the last couple of years, but the level of golf is going up so fast. At that level, Um, it's fun to watch. She really is. I mean the golf it used to be there was three or four guys. I mean for someone like me, I guess who plays and maybe doesn't want to acknowledge other people's skill because that sort of helps my mental game. I I used to be impressed

by two or three people in the range. Maybe you know, like, wow, he's gonna be able to beat that guy's good. But everyone else, Yeah, he's kind of he's all right, but it's just unbelievable how good all of these guys are. Now the level is so high. They all swing it great if you stand behind both teams on the range. It's just just an absolute clinic about how these guys um play the game and they make so many parts.

Jordan always boys me away with how many parts he makes. Um. Yeah, the level of the level of golf at the top level is is improving, maybe at the fastest rate that has for a long time, it feels like to me anyway. I mean, the difference between the sort of there used to be three or four, as I said, top top two or three golfers in the world, was so much

better than twenty years ago, you know. I mean, look at the gap between Tiger and second, and then look at the difference between Early and Phil and the next guy sort of at the time, you know, but now t in the world, they all to play just outrageously impressive golf. Um even further down. Um, yeah, the level

is really really high. It's fun to watch. It's it's a thought to the whole people should go, people should go walk along the roads for some of these guys because it's just incredible what these guys are doing at the moment. Trip I was on the I was on the phone earlier today with David's love, and he said, you can't have a team room like the one we had and not have Phil's name come up, not have Dustin Johnson's then come up. Uh he didn't say Patrick reed,

but you know maybe Patrick reed as well. Um, did you find something similar in your team room in terms of people who weren't there? You know, it didn't come up at all. I mean, going there, I thought, well, maybe there'll be a bit and and the press tent tried to get it out of it and get it out of Trevor and um, but no, I didn't. It didn't come up. Trevor was really really good about it. Just that just weren't the unmentionable is It just didn't come up. Um. He created such a great atmosphere of

we are so happy you guys are all here. What a great opportunity this is for this international team to sort of, um, when a President's Cup in America that, like I'm being genuinely honest, it just didn't. It just

wasn't even a factor in the team rooms. And I'd credit I'd credit Trevor for that because it could very well easily have been, especially when we were down eight too, and as I said, the questions were coming, the questions were coming, and when all the the players were sitting up in their press conference, of questions came and the the players just did an unbelievable job at saying no, no, no, we're the ones who were here, We're going to win

this tournament. Next question. You know, it really wasn't talked about, and it might have been thought about by others, but to me, it didn't feel like it was a factor at all. Although Trevor did have the sickest burn of the whole week on Twitter. I don't know if you you must have seen it where Greg Norman put out this very faux sincere tweets a picture of an old President's cup and I wish the boy is good luck and Trevor's response in our Cops is just l O L.

I mean, that was that was pretty epic. How did that go down in the team room? Yeah, that was pretty well received. It's uh, yeah, that was that was pretty funny. And I guess a lot of these Trevor has sort of been dealing with this the whole time, right because he's sort of he's been going through the roller coaster of not knowing who who he's going to pick,

and all this stuff sort of happened. He's had three years to sort of playing this cup out, and I'm sure he had a few a few guys more than penciled in to his lineup, you know, and um, he had the sort of the stress and anxiety going along about who's going to be coming and who's not, and so he's been sort of living this story for a while and then for stuff like that to come along, It's just he handled it with such class. I mean, I just think it's It's might sound from the outside

like it wasn't classy, but I think that was. It was just the perfect response because it was just a nonsense tweet really from egg Um just more about it's all about Greg, you know. Um, yeah, it was funny. The team loved it. It was it was brilliant. Oh no, yeah, I thought it was classy and its understatement. But we know you haven't slept in a long time, Jeff, what We're gonna let you go here, but you have to

tell us one good story from the victory party. I think I saw son Jay maybe doing Gangham style and impressive fashion for a big man. It's got pretty good, pretty quick feet. But um, what other funny things happened Sunday night in the wee hours. Lots of funny things happened in the way I was not many of them are gonna not any of them are going to make it on this podcast. Son Jay was a very impressive Gangham style dancer. I mean it was. Look, it was

the best spirited party. It was the best. It was one of the best after parties of these things we've ever had. Quite quite often, it can be a bit flat if you've lost the tournament. Um, but no, it was. It was so I don't know, it was so joyful. For whatever reason, everyone was just so excited about how well the week had gone. Majority of the US team came into our room because it was more fun um at last, after a few hours sort of ours was

just keeping on going. You know, ours just kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger, and to their correcit to the two US teams credit, they all came in and they all hung out. I mean most of them hung out most of the night. Um, no no details, but JT and Jordans were there till the end and it was it was brilliant and they were open arms and every time they'd come in and Trevor would congratulate Jordan's speed for winning the cup and congratulates and a Chaffle

for winning the cup and yeah, congratulate Patrick. He they all came in and it just it was this collective, joint sort of celebration. It was brilliant. It was a really good time. It went really really late. Most of us were for fulfilling fairly worse for wear on Monday morning. Um, but it was, yeah, it was, it was. It was a good nod. It was good times. Hello that Michael, any last questions before we let Jeff go. No, that

was perfect. Now, that was that was a great all right, Well, thank you for taking time to reflect on a pretty epic week. Jeff. We wish you luck at the Dunhill. If you know, what's your favorite golf course in the world, so we'll all be watching you. Um, there's been another Fire Drill podcast. Thank you as always for listening. For Michael Bamberger. This is Alan Chipnuk. Jeff oogilvie. Uh. We'll do it again soon, hope. Bye. Big Pleadin made a fortune with my ship game. I ran the table and

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