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Fire Drill 033: Godspeed, Tiger

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With the 18th hole as a backdrop for this Fire Drill pod, Michael Bamberger, Alan Shipnuck and Matt Ginella relive the conflicting emotions of watching Tiger's farewell to the Old Course. They also go deep on a stacked leaderboard and the tourney's good vibes.

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It is about that skill set. It's about the hands, it's about the putting, it's about the imagination. It's you know, we're going to see a wide variety of shots come Sunday, the last nine holes, it's going to be it's going to be an incredible display of of artistry. Put another log on the fire nobody hears given time. Hello, does Allie ship knuckle? Welcome back to another fire Drill podcast. I'm with Michael Bamberger Matt Janella. Behind us is the

eighteenth hole of the Old Course. Is ninety five pm on Friday. They are still playing golf. We're gonna try to keep her voice stops so we don't interview us. One's putting stroke on the eighteenth hole. There's a lot going on here. Um, guys, one hell of a dig off we got. We got to start with Tiger because he was as great as camp Smith played and Rory and Victor Hovland and Dustin Johnson, I mean, big game hunters on the leaderboard. But this is the day that

was all about Tiger. So, Michael, what were your thoughts about Matt floor Right here I met Matt. Matt, what do you think? No, we're not we're not starting with Tiger. Where we are starting with is the first tea announcement that Michael so boldly predicted would be to the first tea Mark Calcavecchia, Guys, I woke up this morning specifically to play this audio and trickle this into this podcast. Jake played the tape. This is game number one, and

that's why we're starting with Mark Kucaebecia. Do you understand they that's yes, you missed the whole. It's only mistake I've ever made my life. Yeah, I mean that's epic. Like they started at six thirty five, here we are fifteen hours later, they were still playing golf. It's an incredible testament to the will to get this thing in off of one off the first two only, which you have to do. I mean, you can have a guys, finish on number nine out there that would just be wrong.

But it's the old courses, unique with all the holes that cross each other and the loop like it just leads to slow play. But all right, we thank you for that, Matt. We appreciate your efforts. He gave up your sleep for the listeners. Man, if you woke up to Mark huckebec yet, what do you think missus Sheila Walker did, because she's only down the street here one

hundred and fifty yards. If that well, I feel I feel like we're gonna get to Sheila Walker, because I did end up talking to the great Sheila Walker, the great great granddaughter of old Tom Morris, as she was peering out her window as Tiger was finishing up. So

we will get to her because that happened. I was able to reconnect with Sheila as she's looking out her window as she's overlooking the Eighteenth Green after Tiger Woods finished, which was a big part of the story I'm writing, which I'll file and published Sunday morning, about all these connection points that are happening for me this week. But now I feel like we can actually talk about Tiger.

And by the way, before we talk about Tiger, I feel like we should hear the fact that Tiger was announced to the first tea earlier today, and that to me is worth listening to. This is Tiger Woods, the Tiger Woods. That's awesome. You gotta love it. I do want to note, in the context of Sheila Walker, that Matt said he would actually leave his wife for Stila Walker, considering she's like eighty years old. It's a bold statement. And we all love Katie, but um, that's the affection

we have for Sheila. But unless also the accent, the accent, but also the apartment on the eighteenth hold. I mean, it's it's tempting for us all. Now let's move on, Michael, Tiger access to the first team. Can't you get us off the course? Yeah? Well did you? I read this week that some family had sixteen times on the old course in perpetuity. They were granted that as as some swap. And in nineteen ninety two the RNA sixteen times every

single day foursomes on the old course. The RNA bottom out for like a quarter million dollars or pounds just to get those times back. I don't I don't know the whole story, but I want to know it now. For like the sixth time, let's talk about Tiger Woods. Michael, we were, we were out there right by the eighteenth green. Matt was the eye in the sky from his perch heir at the Russi's Hotel. It was a big moment. It was a little melancholy, it was emotional. The floor

is yours. You know, I didn't appreciate until today. I just actually kind of never focused on it that he played in the nineteen ninety five British Open as an amateur, and then later that summer, let me see, I had my timing right, he won the US Amateur on Really, you know, people like to say, oh, I've played links scurses in the United States, there are very very few.

There's no true links scorses. But I would say the closest thing I've ever seen to a links scores nine States be Fisher's Island, which not many people have gotten to say, a Newport Country Club back when Tiger won there. And when I think about it, this like continuum, which kind of a word of the week, like old Tom

Wurrise is a phrase of the week for you. But this continuum of Tiger really beginning his links Land golf here and then winning at Newport against Buddy Marucci in the US Amateur, and then carrying on and on and on, and to think that this is could be the end of the line, likely will be the end of the line of his British Open on the old course where he so proudly says it's my favorite course in the world. It's my favorite. I don't know if he says it's

my favorite, my favorite course in the world. I think you'd have to be emotionally dead not to be not to be moved by that. And the fact, you know, he's a jocular person when he says, you know, well, I've got a locker at the old course, but like he meant it, it's a big deal. He's got a locker in the in the RNA Clubhouse, and you can tell that it means something to him. And I think, you know, I think it has been forties. He's finding out that this game, like Trevino is saying the other day,

has made his life possible. And to say that it is really to say that the people who support this game, like the three of us, and like you know, the few hundred people are show out here at ten o'clock at night, they've made Tiger's life possible. I've gone on too long here, but there's a lot going on here in every level. Well, and you know, Tiger, who we all know, grew up on these very scruffy public courses, these military courses. The fortress that is the RNA Clubhouse.

It's the ultimate inter sanctum more than anywhere else in the golfing world. And you know, he's talked very publicly about he wasn't welcome a lot of places because the color of his skin. And now he has a freaking locker, and you that's something that you can't buy, and it's it's pretty cool. I know I've said this several times already. But the flip side to that, Alan, it's his public golf course. And I think we're all, whether you really think about it or not, I think we can't help

but be drawn to the fact. You know, we're all we all have public golf in our background, especially these days, Matt. But yeah, you can't overlook the fact that's a municipal golf course. Yeah, Matt, You've been a part of Tiger's professional life in a lot of ways. As the photoed Sports Illustrated, I think your your professional lives are very intertwined. What did you feel watching Tiger come up eighteen? No, it was a complete circle of my life. I mean

it's a complete circle of certainly my professional life. And you know I was saying to you guys my first week at Sports Illustrated in nineteen ninety six, as the photo eder was Tiger's first week as a pro in Milwaukee Open, and obviously, I you know, so for me to sort of start there and then be here to watch him walking, you know, hit that opening T shot, walk down the fairway, and then to watch him hit that eighteenth T shot and walk up this fairway and

over the bridge and down the middle and uh, you know, to acknowledge the crowd tip his cap. This was you know, the the one little glitch in the whole system was that he missed that birdie putment. This was am We're just being shushed, I think by the marshals because someone's putting out on eighteen. So I mean, I think it was the y'alls down, Okay, okay, we're going. But no, I mean I think it was definitely, you know, to

answer your questions, is emotional. Definitely was emotional. It's not to say that I cried or that I you know, I'm not even sure that I got twos. But I just think that this was this was a ceremonial moment in the in the career of somebody who again eighty two and fifteen, this is this is something we're never going to ever see again. This is I think I always made a point of cherishing the idea that we were seeing greatness as it relates to what happened on

the golf course. There's also a little bit of sadness to me that we're saying goodbye to a guy at forty six. We mentioned this yesterday. There's definitely a sadness to the idea that I'm not sure that this is the last time he's at Saint Andrews and the last time that he says goodbye to this crowd, because as several people have pointed out to us as we're walking around town, Jack Nicholas is still saying goodbye. Like Jack Nicholas said goodbye, he said goodbye again. He just got

the Keys day United said said goodbye again. We're going to see Tiger Woods at Saint Andrew's. More, this was the last time he teed it up with the idea that he could potentially win the golf turn. That to me is what's sad at the age of forty six, like he is so broken by his own doing in so many ways, in so many levels. That's to me is what's ultimately sad about this that this was you know, and again eighty two fifteen, even missing years a worth of time as a competitor because of his own doing.

Ben Hogan threw himself in front of his wife to avoid an oncoming bust, Like that's not what Tiger has done. So there was sadness, there was you know, there was emotion, but it's it's different. It's just different. It's I'm still processing, to be honest with you, well, to Michael's point, I'm slightly dead inside. But um, and I've never had great

chemistry interpersonally with Tiger. You know, you can be so remote and when he was he was a golfed I just playing enter and we were SI we weren't on the team, and he kind of let us know that. And so I don't feel an emotional connection to him, even though I've loved writing about him and doubt he's made our writing lives way more exciting and interesting. But as I watched him coming up eighteen, I really felt it,

like in my chest. It was it was a moment and um, the panorama of these glorious buildings and the just the these grandstands that go all the way to the sky, and I could hear a bagpiper out there on North Street and the shrieking gulls, and it was just very evocative. You know, Sheila Walker, Matt's crush hanging out of her window. Um, the tweety old gents on the on the balcony the RNA building. It was like all of Saint Andrew's came here to show Tiger off

and to say a proper goodbye. And it was meaningful. He's he's given so much to the game and the game has taken so much from him, uh in certain ways. And um, I thought it was a special as happy out here. I was here for Jack Kubye um and um, you know that that was more celebratory. You know, he was hale and hardy and well into advanced age. And it was like it was the right time. As you guys said, it's too soon for Tiger, and we all feel that, but um, it was a moment, and I

think we're all lucky to be here. And and I thought Tiger handled it with a great class. And the golfing gods never disappoint you know. Roy McElroy's walking down the first fairway. He's kind of the heir apparent to be the the voice of the game and the conscious of the game in a way that's maybe Tiger never was but um and for you know, I think that was what kind of broke something loose inside of Tiger

was on Roy tipped his cap. That was cool, and right behind him was JT and Bones and they were making eye contact and it was there was a lot going on there, and it was it was special to be here, so special. I think, why don't we let the listeners actually hear what it was like to hear Tiger Woods come up the eighteenth fairway and all the way to the green. Jake rolled the tape. Shout out to Jake Wildowney, our ace producer back in the lab. Um, now we can we can move on from Tiger and

we have one hell of a leaderboard here. You know, Cam Smith there was I was doing the math my head. Can you actually shoot fifty nine? I mean, if he birdied in you it maybe do something crazy on eighteen. But he played a phenomenal round to kind of take this tournament by the throat. But Rory went out really late today and he gave a great chase. Victor Hoblin's right there. Dustin Johnson kind of set the pace early. Let everyone know that this golf course was here for

the taking. We should note that there was a lot of moisture overnight into the morning, and so the course definitely played slower and softer, and still it's still it's still a very firm and test, but it took a little fire and the wind never came today really, so it was it was the ideal scoring conditions. But what do you think of the way this leaderboard of shaping up hanging at the weekend? Michael, You know, it's interesting to hear your phrase to take it by the throat,

because I don't have that feeling at all. I feel like a double bogey. Even though we haven't seen the blowups, we know they're coming only because they always do come in open championships. So you know, it's astounding that the guy's thirteen hundred through two rounds, but I think he's won double bow get from bringing a lot of people in and I think we'll have a crazily interesting weekend.

And just one notice, as we're standing here, you know, in the in the in the dusk, like you can see how green this golf course got just with really another with just a little bit of rain. But at The point I'm trying to make is this golf course lives like very few places do, and like Augusta National is spectacular. We all live being in Augusta National, but august National so manufactured. Here's like it was brown yesterday, today it's green because we got a little bit of

overnight rain. It's wild. Yeah, Matt, Matt, what do you think the way this weekend is shaping up? No, I mean this is all we could have ever asked for. Like I said, when the game I sort of tweeted that out earlier, is the week is like when the game really needed this kind of cleansing, this kind of soulful massage. You know. I was like, you can count on the old course and with the leaderboard, we've we've now you know, sort of said goodbye to Tiger. This

clears the decks for for this battle. And it's it's there's this not a lot of people are gonna talk about, but there's there's kind of this battle for the for the soul of the game at stake. Like there's there's guys that are on the board that are live guys, and there as guys that are on the board that are very strictly you know, PGA Tour guys, and I mean, there's just seems to be so much more at stake.

There's like, there's this one hundred and fiftieth playing of the Open Championship, and and I just I'm I just as a fan, as someone who loves to observe, you know, major moments. Certainly this is one of the most major majors that I've ever witnessed because of all that's going on here, I cannot wait to see how this unfolds. I disagree that people aren't going to talk about it because if you get Rory and Dustin on Sunday Live versus PGA Tour, I mean, really, these show horses reached

circuit and no one dislikes Dustin. I don't think, Um I could say something snarky that might get a suit, I won't. Um. You know, Dustin's is a people's choice, but they're people will take sides, and of course Rory having you know, the quasi British background, and of course um being an Open champion like he will be the people's choice, but there will be a whole spiky element. You know. Greg Norman's gonna have a bunch of tweets in his draft folder waiting to see and Taylor couches

on the board too. Um, we all shout out to Scottie Scheffler, who there is a great lineage between the Masters and the Old Course, a lot of repeat champions. And of course we all know that Bobby Jones took the design principles and the strategic values of the old Course and put him on a park land setting. And that was the genius of Augusta National. But um, yeah, it's it's definitely um oh, leaf blowers all right. Leaf Blower crisis is over one thing that Michael pointed out

in our in our press room, bulls with Dustin. He's won on Oakmont, which is probably the ultimate US Open venue, He's won on Augusta National. If we were to win an Open on the Old Course, there's always been a sense that as much as Dustin has done, he's a slight underachiever. But if he gets this one, I mean that those are the crown jewels of golf, really and it would be also you could say a PJA Championship Valhalla, but that's it. Otherwise he's got them all, and um,

that's a joke. People end up. But yeah, I mean, so there is it. I don't think Dustin is consumed by golf history per se, but he's very prideful. Like I mean, he told me one time he really wanted to win the freaking fed X Cup because it bother him. He's always second or third, and of course you want the money, but he's like, yeah, of course he wants some money. But it was also like there was an

element there like I'm tired. I know I'm better than these guys and somehow they're finishing ahead of me, and that like bothered him. So I think there's a little more heat in there than that we would think. But what are the other potential storylines on the board that that gets you excited? Michael Well, I mean we you know, well, when you get beyond you got cam Smith one of the players, You've got Rory and of course Dustin Johnson representing their two tours. But just a quick side note

on that. I don't think ordinary golf fans are going to see it as this live PGA Tour divide. I think one hundred and fifty year history of this thing, the thirtieth time being at the Old Course, I think that really carries the day, and I think people will just be so happy it's been such a harsh time in this world and just be able to sit back and spend the weekend watching, you know. And we've all had this experience being at home. You wake up early

in the morning and there's the golf. They always say, oh, you're going to watch the golf. There's the golf on TV, and just let the whole thing unfold as it has here for for well literally centuries. I think that the I think they'll live PGA Tour Divide is not going to be a factor for the ordinary golf, and I don't think it'll be a factor for me either. I think I'm just really eager to see the shots and see how the course holds up to you in the modern game. I agree with that, but it is it

is a funny sideline. Um some other names you mentioned, Adam Scott with a very sporty sixty five to get himself wild. I mean, he's been so quiet, but you know, I mean his stated goal is always to win the career Grand Slam. Like he that's the standard he set for himself and he's he's only a quarter of the way there. So um Patrick can't lay with a beautiful round to get himself in it. I mean Matt Fitzpatrick six under today and to get to surge up to a tie for twelfth. I mean, these are these are

a lot of ballers. And it's so funny when you talk about the old course, like, oh, there's so many lucky bounces, it's so quirky, it's blind, it's the rub of the green, and yet it's the best freaking players on the leaderboard time after time. It's not luck. They deal the bad bounce better than the other guys. Maybe mentally they're stronger, but you can't have this many great players at the top and say there's any element other than just pure skill, imagination and shot making. Um, Matt,

what do you think? Yeah? I mean that this this sort started saying this golf course will continue to identify like a champion in a way that is about that skill set. It's about the hands, it's about the putting, it's about the imagination. It's you know, we're going to see a wide variety of shots come Sunday. The last nine holes, it's going to be it's going to be an incredible display of of of artistry, so he thigala that we just that I keep bringing up, but like

he's having so much fun. Like think about Jordan's Spieth in his prime or Rory McElroy in their prime, or Tiger Woods in their prime. The reason why they were in their primus because they were having fun playing the game of golf. And I think the person that goes out like Cam Smith, he's just an Like he's just an incredible putter. He's making putts from all over the place. He's a good ball striker. Obviously you don't when the players without doing that he's got, He's got all of it.

So he's gonna be really hard to beat. Like you know, uh DJ's got a lot of raw ability, but like Cam seems to be so willing to make big puts or long puts and not even be surprised by it like he is, and you know, he he's just rolling

the ball on the hole. So I as much as I would love to think that there's going to be this big bunch up and things are gonna happen, I just think Camp Smiths can be hard to be but it's it's just because it looks like he's having so much fun playing the game of golf right now, and that's always really here. If you've got that talent and that punning stroke and you're having fun, good luck. Yeah. Well, and I mean maybe the best chipper in the game

right now through his hands are just so phenomenal. The hands, And you know one thing in these conditions especially, there's three part fours in the back nine they're drivable ten, twelve, and eighteen. And then you've got the mother of all part fives with the hell bunker and all that, and then you've got the road hole, which can has broken

a lot of hearts. Like, the combination of attack and defend is just so spectacle on this whole golf course, but especially the back nine, and especially the back nine on Sunday, Like, I just think the old course dishes it out in a way that's really cool and unique. Yeah. I just think we're going to see a wide variety of pin placements this weekend that are going to force all of what we're talking about, the hands and the imagination and the defense or these the strategy is still

to come. We're at halftime. I was just looking for the pin on one. Yesterday was insane. Today it was more insane today for the first time really all week. I'm a little embarrassed to say, but I really walked the entire course and really looked at every pin. It was crazy where they had and they're still shooting super low. There's really nowhere for them to go. Like August National US opens, they moved towards Sunday. They were on Sunday on Thursday and they upped it from there. I don't

know where they can go from here. I mean they're gonna put in the valley the sin here. I don't know what they can do, but they are trying every every every trick in the book. You know, if they reduced drivers to thirty eight inches, they might have a chance, but that's not going to happen. What was Tiger was Tiger say spicy? I think he's talking about the pin on twelve, And I mean there's there's lots talk about

the pins, but I think that's cool. I mean there's so the humps and undulations and the bowls like that makes it so much more interesting when either you can you can use them to advantage or mediaco shot gets repelled, like that's what this place is all about. So you know, put them wherever you want, RNA, because that's what we need. If you guys are gonna drive a four hundred yard it's on these fast fairways. You need something to make it spicy again. Can you imagine a rider cup at

It's one of the funnest things ever. Can imagine? Yes, different national How many different nationalities? We have? One, two, three, four, five, six seven? Is that six different nationalities on that board right now? Five? Yeah? I mean that's neat and it's the most international of all the championships. It makes sense. So um anyway, it was it was a hell of a day of golf and um any any final thoughts

for yours? Hamilton Hall? How would you like to go to the University of Saint Andrews And here's your dorm room? It's Hamilton Hall we're looking at right here. You know. Now they're condo it's worth millions and millions of dollars. But it wasn't that long ago. It was just a dorm How well does that? I got a chance to go out that you'll see the video last later this week. But I got a chance to go to that roof.

I thought the Russis roof was insane. Which it is, and the jigger in is to go from the jiggerin to the Russis rooftop bar to the deck at Hamilton Hall was like this incredible sort of stare step of views and perspectives on this golf course. And some people I know who bought a flat there, thinking that they were going to have an incredible vantage point for the Open Championship, realized very quickly that actually the grandstand block their view. So the party they had actually ended up

being on the being on the rooftop. But that was that's this is uh, this is the good stuff. And then I got to then I got to watch Cameron Young tee off today while having at the RNA clubhouse behind me. It turned around and there goes Cameron Young as he sets off on his shot sixty nine today, I think, and uh, one hell of around. Obviously, by the way, considering Cameron Young, what we're having said his name,

So I mean this this again. And then I went out to the fourteenth hole and had that person walking along the golf course and I mean, this is I just I'm so in love with all of this, all of what's happening here and this week and this weather and now here how many how many people are this army of you know, volunteers. You know, it's essentially superintendents and agronums from all over the world. In theory are got yellow buckets and they're roaming the fairway of one

and eighteen filling divots. You know, it's it's happening right now. I goes like I said, Scottie Shuffler and his wife thanked this group on seventeen, a couple of days ago. Obviously, Carmen leads to two good scores and that's why he's up on the leaderboard. Has nothing to do with his play. It's just strictly karma. But no, is this this is some sort of like love letter to the game of golf. Yeah, you can ask Matt question, because Matt, is this your

first open in Saint Andrew's no fifth. It's coming through to me as new and fresh to you, and I don't I kind of curious as to why that would be. I know, this path into old Tom has opened your eyes in new ways. Because the question I was going to get at is like it's such a democratic experience being here, because like I mean, you have people, you know, Mike Arco or Jerry Tardy, the long time editor Golf Digest, or just wander around. But then just you know, regular

punters and pensioners and kids. I think they've given out twenty thousand tickets to kids. You don't see this at any American tournament, Like I don't know. It's just such completely different atmosphere. And you know, people have often asked over the years, you know, why is the Open Championship boys, the British Open your favorite tournament. And I think we all have a sense of why that would be the case.

It's just it's truly open, not just for the players, but but for the fans too, all walks of life. It's you know, it's not expensive, it's not a hard ticket to get particularly and uh it's open. Yeah. And even just observing how the marshals like again, I walked down the eighteenth fairway coming home from the Jigger in the middle of the night, and the security guard that came out and greeted us in the middle of the fairway ended up taking our picture in the middle fairway.

It wasn't to like, get us the hell out of here. And if you watch the players crossing the footpath between one and eighteen when they're when they're walking down one or coming up eighteen. It's not this like overzealous, like power hungry group of people saying stand back, you can't go holding ropes. It's just literally like, hey, let them all go. It's it's, it's it's it's such a relaxed, uh, you know, sort of sensible attitude, like they're golfers, not gods.

What's the big deal. Just let them through and you stay out of their way. But we don't have to. It's not the queen coming through. It's not the queen coming Like we we overcook so much about everything relating to professional golf in America, and this just like everybody puts their guard down. And that's true of not only the players, not only of the volunteers, and not only of the security, but also of the spectators themselves. It's a very it's just a very peaceful experience. It's very warm.

It's it's it's uh, I I don't know, yeah, I don't know why this is other than it's maybe it's one hundred and fiftieth. Maybe it's because we are here together, you know, working together. Maybe it's because of the freedom we have to do what we want to do and how we want to do it. It's it's all the people I'm bumping into, all the connections I'm making time. I don't know. I'm trying to put that in words, which is the story I'm writing, but I don't know.

I think it's very chilling that you referred to coming from the jigger in home and then your neighbor down the street it is her home, and she said so elegantly the other night it's my home. The home of the home of golf. Is I was chatting with the woman who lives in the home of the home of golf this afternoon, getting a reflection. It's so cool, I mean,

to your point. One thing that happened overnight which is so cool is the Links Road runs down the right side of the eighteenth Ferry and there's a big barrier that separates the tournament grounds from just the town of Saint Andrews. And yesterday there's a big twel fence and they had you know, green mesh, so you couldn't see through the fence to block it off. Because you didn't

buy a ticket, you can't watch the tournament. But people were standing up on the base of the fence peering over and they're holding their phones over and instead of bringing in a hundred you know, goons to shoot them away, the r and as like, you know what, let's just take all of the green mesh out. And so now even if you don't have a ticket, you can stand right on the road and you can watch the first hole on the eighteenth hole with as good of you

as anybody. Yeah, they did over. They did an overnight because I took a picture yesterday. People they're standing on those red and white barriers peering over the fence like doing chit ups to see over. Probably not save um. And there's a lot of ways that ARNA could have handled it. The best possible way is take down the mesh and let everybody enjoy it. So like an extra five or ten thousand people stood on that road today, got to watch Tiger come up eighteen and sharing that

moment forever. And Okay, the RNA didn't get their thirty pounds for the ticket, but they just said, you know what, this is cool, this is inclusive, this is this is bringing the tournament closer to the town, And like, how

great is that? Because would the USJA make that decision No, they would bring in a bunch of Pinkerton's and like sweep the road probably with like fire hoses and German shepherds, and you know, it would just like Bull Connor and we stand on there at the top of the road like checking credentials, and instead they just like, yeah, you're welcome here, come watch the golf. Like how great is that.

The other thing that I think a lot of people get confused is like the RNA clubhouse is full of a bunch of members they actually have nothing to do with the golf. The RNA runs the Open Championship. The RNA membership is like this whole separate membership of a bunch of people who just drinking Jenna talks, who who

like occasionally get together and play golf. Terms that the Links Trust actually manages the golf Like there's this big sort of kind of miss perception that the the you know, the RNA and the membership runs all that's relating to the golf course. But in reality, the Links Trust actually manages this land, so it's kind of that that's I think that's also part of it is there's this is the land again that belongs to the people, that's managed by the Links Trust and not by the you know,

there's a group running the tournament. There's a group of people gathering there that are part of a member RNA membership, and then there's all these clubs that line this road that I mean, it's it's there's I think there's layers and layers to all of that too, that everybody there's not like one specific group of people like we're in control, this is ours, we're sharing it with you. It's us. It's like the people of Scotland sharing it with us.

And that's the sense I get. Yeah, I mean the RNA make the rules for actually an entire world except for the United States. Uh So it's yeah, they're global stuff. All right. Well, oh go ahead, Matt. You know no, I just want to thank I want to thank Russick's Hotel because obviously we are sitting here in this incredible perch as though we're like a couple old guys in the Muppets overlooking the action. We're three and not two. But I mean, it's it's really it's really special to

be able to do what we're doing right now. Obviously, Link Soul for everything that they produce and their soulful approach to the game is something that I certainly appreciate. We all appreciate and their support for everything that we do. Seed Golf, you know, an Irish based golf ball company that is just new to the fire Pro Collective that we're very appreciative of. We have you know, par Points,

you know Brandon Kevin. These guys are you know, created that app that we so much support, certainly as it relates for me to family Golf for going out and playing a short course, playing a couple of short holes with your kids. Download the app, go make part now. And the list goes on and on. But I just want to make sure we we thank them for all their support. Thanks all of you for listening. We do appreciate this is why we're here. We're not just on holiday.

I mean, it's all about the golf fans. That's that's why the fire Pro Collective exists. So in all sincerity, we appreciate you listening and reading and watching. So we will do this again tomorrow at the end of the third round. Its exciting now, like it's feel like we've been here a long time. But things are accelerating. Things are escalating, and this term is gonna get sorted out to a large degree tomorrow. I can't which see who the protagonists are and how it all goes down. So um,

thanks again for listening. And um it's ear. I don't know, Um, that's my phone, My bad. Um all right, this is Allen ship nuck, that's imagine Ella. That's Michael Bomberger. We're out. Bye, put another log on the fire? Are we here? Is get the Time

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