It was like like the Old West saloon, you know, swings open and here comes Tiger and there's that. I don't know if we saw there's this corridor of humans all the way from the clubhouse down to the first tea. Just everyone just wanted a glimpse, just like almost to reach out and touch him. Another log on the fire, nobody hears get the time, all right, Jeff, we're back for another fire drill. I saw you hanging out under the tree this afternoon. We're both at the Augusta National
Golf Club. Obviously the story of the day was Tiger Woods. We gotta start there. What were your impressions of his play and can he keeped up this not not the golf so much as just the physicality of walking these hills. I don't know, Yeah, I'm sure he can keep out the golf. Um, it was nuts. I mean, one out there, it's not easy. I mean there's not that many people under pie. You know, he's taught for tenth which is
pretty crazy. Um. He looked really tired coming up the last there's last few swings that looked like his body wasn't moving, Like it wasn't the first time, you know. Um, so I think I don't think the challenge him his golf. I think the challenge is getting around. Yeah, even like on fourteen that snipe off the tea, like that's my swing where the lower body doesn't move at all, you just come over the top, like get a little more speed.
But nevertheless, like that looked like a tired swing. So I mean credit Tagger that he you know, he ramming that put on sixteen, incredible up and down on eteen, like he's never going to give in even even if his body is not quite working. No, I mean you're not surprised he makes that power on the last day.
Really it was amazing. Yeah, and look he might as I mean they you can get he could get fit of each day like he guess and probably walked out in holes like that like that without sort of stress. He could be better off for that tomorrow, or he could get more tired. I mean, I don't know, but he knows how he take feels except for him, but it was pretty impressive. Why not in contention? Crazy? Yeah, that that energy. I was right by the clubhouse door when when he came out and I put this in
my store. It was like like the Old West saloon, you know, swings open and here comes Tiger and there's that. I don't know if you saw this, this corridor of humans all the way from the clubhouse down to the first he just everyone just wanted a glimpse, just like almost to reach out and touch him. And even there was a Green Jackets, hill Ear and Iansam they were there like it doesn't matter who you are, you're sort of swept up in the energy of it. And it
was cool to feel that. Yeah, it was nice. It was cool. I was right there at that time too. It's like potting the red say right, it's like I need in Augusta does all of a sudden the corridor, the wide corridor just appear right. Tiger walks through and it's there. But it happens for everybody, but for him it was very defined. And there's twenty days on both sides, and um, that first taste saying, um, it's pretty special and it's the best one in golf of that we
do regularly like that. It's just I don't know, all the grand Jackets under the tree and all the pretenders under the tray and then everyone around and I don't know, it's just it's just it's where everyone enters the course, kind of there where everyone starts they die. It's just a good spot. It's just nice. I chatted up the guy who actually opens the door. Um, I went, not quoting. Mightn't want to get him in trouble, but he's like,
this is the best job in the world. Like, and not long after Tiger came through, Nicholas was just finishing up. And so this guy, he's just a random security dude. It's only a second year. He's not like an institution. But him and Jack were chatting and it was just like, yeah, it's where the whole golf worlds converges, right in that spot. And it just made a little extra energy around around
Tiger's opening shot. And even though it's kind of this little wipey you know, he'll slice, that's actually progress usually he like he's a violent hook into the ninth fairway, right, So yeah, one, it's not his favorite T shot, I don't think. I mean, the time you build up that T shot for so long though in your head, you know it's a hard one to hit. Um, but he got away with it, and yeah, and he shot one under on a tough day. I mean it's not. It's
not that easy out there, really. I mean it looks soft, but soft men is long, and it was Wendy at this place. Anytime it's Wendy is hard. So fifteen seems like it's playing really long. I mean, he played the part five is what even for the day and looked like he's about one yard off on a few of his iron shots like ten, perfect drive around the corner and then just just missed it like one yard short, rolled all the way back and he got up and down. But I mean, I feel like he didn't max out
his round at all. You know, only putty made of length was on sixteen, So I don't know. It's easy to get carried away and talk yourself in like you could do it. I don't know if you can do it. But his golf looks good though. I think if he, if he does have that gets better every day fitness squads.
You know, his body gets more used to it. Like who knows, I mean, you certainly know what he's he knows what he's doing on the last night, holes right, if you can get into the mix, Yeah amazing, yeah, um, you were saying before we start taping, this is all over again. We have we have Sunjay, we have camp Smith, we have Dustin. What stands out to you about this early leaderboard that it's quite I mean, it's that it's
the finishing top three. Um and maybe I don't know, you try to get by right in my head it's like, well, what's the same same about this? It's really the only nothing to say really except that it was quite soft, and it was quite soft today. They were big pitch marks and girls. So Sunday spun it all the way off the tenth grain, which from the middle of the grain, which I had seen ever before. UM, so that it was playing not like a traditional Thursday maybe a bit
of a bounce on the green and firm. It was one of the softer ones. That was the only thing. But the leader board always seems it always seems to throw up sort of names that you expected, and it seems to like a few guys that you thought we're going to go great struggle a little bit. Um Cam's obviously been almost the form player. Him and Scotty Scheffler
are the form players of the year. Not surprising. Sun Jay's thoroughbred who's going to be up in these for a long time and d J, well, I mean he was all of our pick right, So yeah, exactly what about Cam? He doubled Boogie's the first hole. We know it's a tough start, but mostly as a player when you double the first hole, like what does that do to you? And how impressed you that he was able to bounce back that way? It's incredible. It's either good
or bad. We were actually talking just before this, but I think sometimes you build up that the Master so much in your head. It's the first major for a long time, and like you're just you're just there's too much stress and like inten city there and a double on the first it gets all half the year comes out of your balloon, you know, I mean, and you sort of you relax a little bit. It's like, oh you sort of your expectations go down. Well, I'm going
to have a bad days. I will just relax and then and then you're away, right, So or it can just send you crazy and you go the other way. I think, didn't Earnie make money at eight or nine or something when the first and still only miss the gap by a shot two years ago? So it happens, and it's a sort of whole the sort of thing that can happen. Um, But he shot sixty eight with a double on the first and the double on the last,
which is um zianing. Yeah, it's like crazy. So he's actually probably played the best today for sixteen of his holes at least. Um. I mean, us golf fans have gotten to know Cam obviously in the last twelve months whatever. He's been on such a tear. But you guys are different generations, but you can give us some insight into him as a person as a player. Yeah, I mean, he's a lovely man. He's a bit of it, like a proper Australian smartass. Like he's always sort of being
a little bit chirpy and get it. He gives it out, but he takes it pretty well too, and he's fine. Everybody likes him. Um. Incredibly hard worker. He's he's very disciplined in his approach. He has he has his things that he likes to work on in his swing and he makes sure he's very diligent. He makes sure he does them at the same thing with the putting he goes through. He's got his little programs that he goes through. Um understands his game really well, doesn't seem to get
flustered if he's playing Paul, you're playing well. He just keeps doing his thing. So I mean, for a guy who's got the most undisciplined haircut on tour, the way he approaches it is it's there's guys who practice longer, but he does it right. He's just doing it, always doing it the same, never getting ahead of himself. He's like he's putting his building it brick by brick. It
feels like the way he goes about his golf. So it's not surprising to see him do so well because and he's he loves the bigger the moment the better he gets, you know, like he just he loves this, the momentum, the big times. You know, presidents can't be beat JT. I think they're end like pretty big win. Um. I think he needs fifth. In his first he was opening at Chambers Bay, which was like sort of who's camp Smith, you know, I mean he just got someone starting.
He was over finished fifth. It'side well, but that's always a good sign, right that he was like up there top ten and his first major, like I think it was his first major. So he just loves these times. He loves this moment. So I imagine now he's on the leader board, you would expect him to hang around most of the week. I mean, there's going to be against some thorough breads up there. It's a hard tournament to win, but you would expect him to still be
there at the end because that's how it's been recently. Right, where does his short game stack up to you know, the all time short games? Oh yeah, he's good. Um, But there's two shots. There's two ways to measure short game, and there's one that like the efficiency of it and how well do they get it up and down on a regular basis, And he's like right at the top
on that level. And then there's the freak shows, you know that Savvy's and the Fills and the Tigers that can just hit the shots that no one else can hit. You know, Cam's got one of the best, um functioning short games like that, and they're not in a derogatory way like he just hits great shots from everywhere. You know, But if he was twenty yards over the back of the fifth that the Master's I'd take Fill every time, you know what I mean. But if you take it.
There's eighteen up and downs for the day you miss If you missed eighteen greens camp. If every to a player missed eighteen greens in the same spots came, would probably win or he'd be right up there, you know. Um, So what was your day like as as a spectator out there? When if you're jiffcuse we had do you spend through the Masters? I'm probably a little bit of a snob and that I have trouble going to watch golf. Now, I'd be quite happy to, like if I had some
friends out there and I'd go watch them. But it's I've been inside the ropes and played and like fighting with the people on the outside of the the ropes. It's not my like my favorite thing. I mean, I can stand in the spot for a little bit and so you see how the eight greens playing, or like watch people coming to the first or something like that. Just
the thing. But I spend most of my time in the clubhouse or near the clubhouse, just because I bumped into people I've met and known over my last twenty years, and it's just spun to chat to them, you know, and be a part of it. But I watched a little bit. Yeah, that's cool. I just want to go back to Tiger because we can parse you know, he played this sole this way, he did this, or did that.
But there's just something supernatural about the guy that no matter what he does to his body, no matter how many times his swing changes or different coaches or whatever, controversies, he drags himself through like he just has ability to play this game in a way that almost nobody has
ever had. And um, you know I remember back in I think it's two sixteenyear and I talked and that was when he was kind of his night deer and trying to understand it, and you gave me this great quote about you know, there's the Tigers have all great, but you know how dondes of people can do that? And you went through all this stuff, and you know,
there's like there's like there's like a magic. There's like a and ephemeral, undefinable thing that makes him Tiger wood like and we just see that over and over and it hasn't changed. And we saw two thousand nineteen here and might see it again this week. Who knows. I mean, how would you describe that, that that X factor that Tiger has I don't know. I mean, like I said, ultimately comes down to it ultimately proves that of his more in the head than it is in the body.
You know, he's clearly a specimen of an athlete, one of the best to ever play golf, played it from childhood, so he had more miles on his legs or more competitive golf by the time he was sixteen than most people had by the time the twenty five. So he had all those sort of things go for him. But ultimately the part of Tory and the chips at Memorial and the chip in at sixteen against De Marco, when all those things, that's just there's a level there that
no one else has ever reached. And I just think it's ultimately like his determination or his desire to refusal to lose, desire to win, has just been stronger and better than I mean, it's like phelps, you know, come down the last it's like it's not swimming anymore. Like there's something else there. You know, they just wanted more than everybody else, with a better level of focus and everybody else or something the better than anyone's done it.
Look at Jordan, how do you make those shots? You know? That it's not just because you're shooting actions better than everyone else's. It's more there, and it's got to be somewhere inside between the years or in our makeup, not not the physical side of it. So he's whatever that is, whether it's determination, desire, will focus, or of all of that sort of stuff. He just said more of it than anyone's ever had. You know. That's it's it's incredible.
So let's let's let ourselves dream. It's Sunday and Tiger is still in contention. I mean, can we see if we say, if he were to pull us off, it would be the greatest achievement in golf history. Yeah, that would be pretty amazing. Um, I mean, Hoggans was pretty impressive. That was eighteen months after he was never gonna walk again, you know. Um, But this is at a much older age. Hogan was like like sort of a bit primer in his age. You know, this is I mean, he's not
young Tiger forty six Jack. I mean there's there's a little you know, there's a little something there. Yeah, there is something there. I mean it would be that it would be nuts and surely it would be the best. I mean, if we said that in nineteen they do, right, I mean I just like, um, it would be more impressive than nineteen by a long way. I mean it as at night was pretty crazy. I mean, you were
there like that was something else. He was like, I mean, people can be playing golf, but he was like he shouldn't have been playing golf, you know, And so that was pretty nut. And the US hoypened too, but this, yeah,
next level most crazy thing. I probably I was chatting a pillar when after right around you know, the first tea, and you know, he was a he was an All Big eight defensive back and he's from a different generation, like those were tough guys, right, And we're talking about Tiger and Hogan because he knew Hogan a little bit, and he said, well, the only difference is, you know, Tiger got rebuilt with all this metal and all these plates, and Hogan it was just his body. So he's like,
I kind of give the tiebreaker to Hogan. I was like, all right, that's that's an old school point of view, you know. I mean, Tiger has obviously some some modern medicine on his side. But we're even discussing this and debating it. It's just It blows the mind, like, well, that's what he's done, and he's boning m on since the mid on he's wrong. He just extited our expectations every time, you know, in every way. So that's just
who he is. Well, if you had to put you on the hot seat, what will you shoot tomorrow on Friday second round? I don't know. It's supposed to be really tough tomorrow and it's actually to be fair. Probably a good forecast for Tiger because they most of the field wouldn't have seen the course play as tough as it looks like it's going to be the next two days.
Super windy's getting cold, So I would you would go to the experience there because they won't have seen it play like that, or less of them have seen it. You've seen that before. Um, so I think that's actually to his advantage. I don't know if cold weather it is good or bad for the state of his body. It might be good, right, I don't know. Um. And by the way, no one even talks about his back anymore, Like that was the you know, fifteen months ago, that
was the defining question. Well, Tiger's back, let him play golf, and we've just completely forgotten about it. Obviously, had not playing golf for a year or whatever helped them heal the back and rest in a way he never had recently. But we have no idea, Oh yeah we have. There's zero way of guessing, you know. But it's going to be fun to watch, I agree. All right, Well, another fire drill in the books. Thank you for your time and your insight. Servill do it again tomorrow. Hopefully done Dale,
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