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it on a Friday. Another weekend is upon us here in December, closer and closer to the end of the year and the traditional hiatus from all of this broadcasting. But it is the Fifth Hour with Ben Maller and Danny g Radio. Not here today because four hours a night are not enough. Eight days a week, eight days a week from a secret podcast studio somewhere in the

north Woods. And we thank you for finding the podcast and being part of the podcast, and I do appreciate it if you subscribe to the Fifth Hour podcast, which is very important, uh, and you enjoy that, and you also listen to the other podcast, the Ben Mallor Show podcast. There was a bit of drama. There was a technical snaffoo. The last couple of weeks where the Saturday and Sunday podcast we're not getting posted in the right spot. We

have worked that out, so we have exciting news there. Yes, the podcast has straightened all that out, so everything should be good now. But if you missed some episodes, we did do the mailbag, and some of you sent me angry messages. A couple of you were very upset that the Sunday mail bag you sent a question in there was no mail bag. Why did you ask for questions? I didn't. I'm not the king of doshers. I didn't ask for questions and then not do the podcast. We

did the podcast. But anyway, enough about that. Yeah, that's boring. Let's get on now to a surprise appearance on Today by none other than one of the longest tenured callers to the Ben Maller Radio show, one of the goofy Er characters and the Mallard militia. I go way back with this guy, twenty years of talking randomly sporadically with the man, the myth, the legend that is none other

than Doc Mike Docs from Chicago. He has not been calling the show that much recently because he's been traveling around the United States and Doc is calling us now from New Mexico. He's actually he's hanging out there on his way to California. He's been all over God's Green earthier from sea to Shining Sea. And we're gonna talk with Doc Mike, catch up on many of the great stories.

I'm sure Doc will hijack the show and talk about uh, drinking urine and all that, but well, at some point we will get to the famous bloody goat head that he dropped off at Wrigley Field, which led to amazing moments in in my life of doing the show and a national story that played out with Doc Mike from wrigley Field, Chicago on Cubs opening days. So I see him calling in right now. Let's welcome in from the roads of New Mexico. We bring in Doc Mike. And Doc.

People have said all kinds of things about you over the years. I've gotten listeners that have said that Doc is not real, You're a lizard person, you're this person, you're that person, you're a paid character on the show, that you're on the payroll, all kinds of nonsense. So let me ask it, Doc Mike, are you a real human being, absolutely live and in color. Yeah, alright, the Fox Radio for over twenty years. Well, I know you. You've been calling the show for for a very long time.

And you go back to the days when we were on the Score late at night in the in the overnight hours, and you started calling, and you were there when we got banned from Chicago radio for a long period of time. You you had a role in that. Congratulations, Doc, You mean Fox being banned, are you? Well? Well, yeah, well not me, but I part of Fox, so the whole you know, I was swallowed up with everybody. That's a long time ago. That's like fifteen years back. Uh, yeah,

it's been it's been a long time. So you are not being paid in any way, Doc, There is no compensation from me. I have not sent you a check. You've sent me a lot of things in the mail, but I have not sent you anything. Is that accurate? Those were all post paid? Yeah? Yeah. I have multiple presidential posters. How many elections have we run together in Doc, you of course as the president, me as your vice

presidential candidate. Uh five five elections. They only do one of these every four years, Doc, Right, and we're running again. I've got the posters in my car right now, heading for Los Angeles, and in fact, Regina wanted to come out to Los Angeles and the three of us get together for dinner. Oh well, there you go. Is she making a trip? I know she travels a lot. You and Regina one of the hot items on the show.

You you visited the the Twin Cities a while back and you hung out with Regina And yeah about that. Now you're heading You've you've been all over the country this year, Doc, you were in the Northeast, You've been all over the Midwest, obviously being in Chicago, and now as we're talking, you are on your way to California. But you're actually in New Mexico. Is that accurate? That's right, Las Cruises? Yeah? Now why are you? Why are you in Las Crucis? Doc? What are you doing there? I'm

doing the podcast while you're just passing through. Right. Where are you coming from? No? Originally, where are you? Where are you coming from? Elama Gordo. I stayed in Alama Gordo last night. Alama. I've never even heard of Alama Gordo. That's where the first atomic bomb was dropped. I know you're awful young, but that's you know because on the Second World War, Well, I am aware of the atomic I am aware of the atomic bomb. Doc, I have hands.

They say there's a so sited white sands, and they dropped the bomb there and then they took it to Japan. Aren't you concerned? Talk about the still the radiation levels in that area. Aren't you a little concerned about that? When you will improve yourself against the environment by drinking your urine radiation, there's no effect. So so you think that the urine protects against the nuclear fallout that could

be in the air everywhere? You believe that. I don't not only that, but e M f uh COVID the whole shot. It's it's a liquid gold. And who told you this, doc? It's been in the research. Go to look at scripts research from two o two. There's a link on my website to it. The ozone is created uh through antibodies. And they threw out everything they knew about the immune system in two o two it's grips and and found that that the major immune system does

not come out for a mosquito bite. You know, that's like the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, UH, coolest carred there's a technique that the body generates ozone and then creates an antibody on the matrix of the cell. Yeah, well, doc, you got you Actually gotta speak up, Doc, because I can barely hear you, which is a very odd to me that because you're such a loud I know, I told you to talk in your normal speaking voice before we began the podcast. But this is, this is unbelievable

to me. You're talking very low. Now is when's the last time you got sick? I mean, you called the show and you you got you got a little sick. When was the last time you actually got sick? Yeah, I don't remember, Ben, you don't remember. No. I did a degree turn in nineteen. Yeah. I had a terrible motorcycle accident when I was thirty. Wound up with fibro, myalergy and chronic fatigue for twenty three years. Because they

told me there was no cause and no cure. Okay, well I got cured with oxygen therapies and so on. The therapist that I was working with. Then I went to the Oxygen school, and I went to reflexology school. I teamed up with Dr Turchaninov and Phoenix and started educating myself in oxygen and ozone therapies, and since then I've been bulletproof. Yeah, now, what do you say, Dr and I we've talked about You've called the show and

brought this up. You haven't called us in a while because you've been on the road here, you've been traveling and it hasn't worked out. But let me ask you this, Doc, Uh, you call up and say this, and inevitably multiple people will message me and say, what is going on with this guy? Doc, Mike, there's no he's just pulling this stuff out of the sky there. What do you say

to that person? Doctor thinks you are looney tones I mean about urine therapy or ozone and oxygen or just well you're in the urine therapy in particular, Doctors many people that are very troubled by this when you call up and they blame me. They want me to ban you, Doc from the from the show, And of course I'm not. I'm not in the in the banning business. I try not to ban people. You know, there's a few that have been banned, but but people get very upset. Doc,

this very passionate topic. Who knew that drinking your own piss would be a passionate topic. But people get very upset when they hear you talk about this doc. Well, you know, they've got the Internet. I don't, but I use it as a research tool. It's very, very valuable. All they've gotta do is go to the Google or one of their engines, go in the search by urine therapy and look at the links and the results or

whatever they call it up in the left hand corner there. Okay, last time I looked, there was a hundred and eighty eight million with a m million links. Okay, I've been all over I've been all over the world with my stuff, Ben, you know, from Australia, the Norway, and I can name the countries in between there. Okay. Every one of these countries teaches their children you're in therapy. What culture doesn't I'll help you the U. S. S R. I mean US S A Okay, and we're going to U. S.

S Ir one of these days. That is that we're moving to the with the biggest country on the planet. Yeah. Well, this is a wild podcast doc here. I'm gonna get in get a lot of angry email from this podcast. I've gone over this a number of times with you, I know, and I a please date it every minute

that I wait for your show. You know. The only thing that's uh, I like waiting more for is my dead the hygienist, Well, your dental hygienist is a little better looking than I I would be, Doc, But my my goodness, Now, what about just the possibility me just throw this out, Doc. You you do for those that don't know what you look like. And I've met you several times over the years. You you look amazing, Doc. You are unbelievable your physical conditions. Is it possible it's

just because of good genetics and diet. Is that possible, Doc, that you just won the genetic lottery and that's why you look so much younger than your age, and that you just can thank your parents and their parents and their parents, and that you just you you one in that department. Is that at all on the table for you, Doc? It's probably a part of it, because you know, we're all a part of our genetics. But lifestyle stress reduction. I've got uh, three brothers and three sisters. Okay, I'm

the healthiest of the bunch. They're all into doctors and stuff like that. Okay they I'm pretty sure they don't do your ine therapy. Okay, I know that they. Some of them take pills, a lot of them have had surgeries and so on. Okay, I'm the youngest. I'm the oldest boy. I've got an older sister that looks eighty okay. Uh. And in the photo which we had not too long ago, even though one of my brothers is uh on vacation for a long time. Um, they say say that I

was the youngest looking of the bunch. Okay. Now I credited to my change of lifestyle, which is three years ago. Okay, I was kind of young looking them. I was in my uh fifties Okay. And I know when when when people ask me, you know, how come you look so young? Doc, you don't you know looks I'll be seventy seven next month. Okay, um, how come you look so young? And my first reply is good women, it's not it's not genetics, it's uh, it's making. Whoopie, Doc. That's the key to a healthy

life is the making. Yeah, years ago. There's probably lived about twenty years ago. I found a book in a company and He's library that I worked with for Ozon an oxygen it was I don't remember the title, but it was something. It was interested me because it was something like reverse the aging process or Forever Young or some peuple like that. And I opened the book to a chapter on endorphins. Okay, now, uh, you know, one of the best ways to activate a hundred trillion of

your endorphins is an active sex life. And I've had that all my life too. Were you ever married, doc? Were you ever married? Back here? I have never known you to be married. You've always kind of been out and out about enjoying the fruit over that. Sure, that just take a minute. I was married to my first wife for twenty five years. We were both millionaires. Uh after that, towards the end of our marriage, she wanted her a million, and I said, okay, here you go.

You know, she divorced me and she got a million and I got a million. Okay, Well, not long after that, one of my buddies, his mother, was a matchmaker, and she introduced me to my second life. We got married about a year later on her birthday in Australia. Because I had a lot of money, we just traveled over there and got all our permits and everything tied the knot went up and down the Great Oak Road. Playing

golf was a wonderful program. I was married to her about five years, and very unfortunately her sister died and she lost it. They were very very close. It was a beautiful relationship and and I just she said, well, okay, if you want to leave, it's up to you. Because she started drinking and I think she was doing some drugs and things like that. She was very depressed. So we got divorced. Then I had a patient, a model

twenty nine years. I was in my forties and as this model came in from uh Canada with fibro myalgia, and I heared her, well, she wanted to be near Doc Mike, just a case that came back. So she came back to Chicago. We got married in a green card, and when after six months you can apply for a green card, she got that, paid all the fees and everything for our divorce and moved on. Beautiful girl, look at that. So you've been married three times in your

call it two and a half. The third one that was just yeah, I don't think you're supposed to admit that, doctor, I don't know that you're supposed to admit that you did that. I don't know, you know you want to get there. Used to be, uh, you could get as many green cards marriages as you want. But I think with after nine eleven they put the clamp on it. And you're married three times or two two and a half. As you say that, how do you make your money?

Though you said you had millions of dollars? Did you inherit the money? Did you? Did you work in business and make them up? There was some inheritance, but my wife and I were very frugal. Um for the first uh, i'd say twenty years of our marriage, I was a I'm very talented when it comes to carpentry and this common sense and we uh uh set up a relationship with a widow that had a state home and I was I did all the maintenance, security and so on,

long work and everything there. And we had one bill for about eighteen years was our phone bill was seventy I'll never forget it was seventeen dollars and sixty three cents a month. That was the only bill. We had no red and we were both working hard. Um, we didn't have any kids. We decided we weren't going to have any kids because we were traveling and we were having a ball. So when when the widow died, she left us some money, but we had already amassed uh

pretty good fortunate at that time. Added it together, we wounded up with two million dollars in cash and real estate. I had the rental property, had some farms, had a hunt lodge. You were living large, stock you were you were large and in charge making that kind of money there with well, but you know, I will say this dock over the over the years you've been calling show, you don't seem like at this point you really care

about money that much. You gotta have money, but you don't seem to really be too obsessed with money, you know. And you know, after the state bankrupted me, they I went through my million in about ten years, you know, in and out of court with the state, all right. And I found out at that time that it just takes a little bit of dough to get to tomorrow. This morning, as I was riding through the desert, I saw some guy carrying a half a dozen plastic bags.

I know he was homeless. And the desert is reasonably warm here, it's about sixty degrees but he had a heavy code on and and I don't know if he slept under a bridge or what. But he's going to be here today all day, and I'll be here tomorrow too. And I know he's got a lot of less than I do. I've got a vehicle, and uh, here I am talking to one of the premier radio broadcasters on the planet. Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven p m.

Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Well, thank you. You know, I'm just fascinated by you. Doc. You started calling the show, and we've had so many great moments on the show, and in part of the Mallard Militia, the magic of the Mallar Militia in those early days, Doc, when you were my caller from Chicago and we were we were rocking the radio at night there.

That was back in the steroid era of baseball. But over the years, just for some people that are new to the show that don't know some of the great moments in the past, uh the some of the stories I recall, but the goat heads always come up. The bloody goat beer, the beer for losers, the Cub futility. And one of my favorite Doc Mike story is for years you would go somewhere around Wrigley Field and you would drop off a goat head, a bloody goathhead around

Wrigley Field. And this was the thing until the Cubs finally, you know, won the World Series a few years ago. But uh, and you'd call us up and tell us. You'd call me up and say, Hey, this is what I'm gonna do and whatever. You and then you started calling me while you were doing it. You say, hey, Ben, I'm outside. You know, I'm outside Wrigley I'm on this street. You know I'm near the Harry Carry Statue or whatever it might be. And so you give me like the

whole blow by blow as it's happening. And this thing blew up, Doc. And you remember it was the cub opening day. I think they were playing the Giants, the San Francisco Giants, and it was raining in Chicago. I guess started raining yet okay, dropped when it was dry, and they canceled the game prior to the rain. Yeah,

so so the Cubs. So the Cubs open day is canceled, and it's your baseball opening days a big deal and people kind of move on from baseball until later in the year, and so so the baseball the baseball writers needed something to write about. And the headline story all over the sports websites and this became like a news story was that the Cub game was was rained out and somebody had dropped off a bloody goat head at

the Cub offices. And the funniest part of it was the mayor of Chicago at the time, Ram Emmanuel, at a news conference announced on television to the whole world that the Chicago Police Department was going to find out who did this, that there was a top priority with all the crime going on in parts of Chicago, that the Mayor of Chicago was going to get to the

bottom of this dock. And I am laughing. I'm like, wait a minute, I have a voicemail message from Doc as he was doing it, which I think is incriminating. It is, but you you had said, Doc that you know the you were buddies with the police and all that they were all there. You know they knew everyone

around Wrigley Field, right, you still do, I think? Well, you know, the deal was the mayor was arguing with the rickets, the billionaires that wanted to rip off the state for about I think it was a hundred three hundred seventy five million to Redo Wrigley held. And they were, you know, in and out of court. They were so

in them. They were trying to get the money. These are billionaires that had three hundred seventy five million, you know, his pocket change, okay, because they run that a merrit trade. The rickets run the merritrade. They're making a billion dollars a day. Okay. So they when the when the bloody go ahead showed up, they accused the mayor of sending it, and they contacted the mayor's secretary and she said, no, the mayor sends fish wrapped up. That's the Chicago thing,

you know, it's sleeping with the fishes. So and and the story goes that he when he was younger, he and in politics. He was running some kind of a campaign and the guy that was in charge of it lost for that kendidate, so rom sent him a fish in a paper bag or wrapped up in some newspaper. You know, you're going to be sleeping with the fishes. I never heard this story secretary knew that, so she said, no, he sends fish. It was somebody else to put the boat head over there. And of course I know all

the cops around the stadium. They're great bunch of guys. And you know, they went over there. This guy Brown, who was their marketing guy. He was the one that started it. They didn't give the box with the head to the Rickets headed addressed at the Rickets. Uh you know Junior Water his name is, that owns the Cubs. His father bought it for him because he's a Cub fan since he was in diapers. Oh you you'd like that, wouldn't you like to have the Cubs as a trinket

on your mantle? Oh? Yeah, daddy, So he bought him the cup. All right. Well, so Brown calls the cops. They bring the they bring the box to Brown. He calls the cops. The cops say, excuse me, is this your first day on the job. Just goes back to and it looks like this might be doct Mike's work. So just like forget about it, you know. Well he goes and then he then he blows it up, you know, and they canceled a game. The rain was still in Iowa when they canceled the game and it didn't rain

that much that night either. Yeah, I remember that. And so when when you dropped off the box at the cub office, did they open it up right away or did they even know what was at what point were you even in there? Did you just drop it off and leave? And I into Gate ten. You know that there were there were there were fans in the stands and everything. It was early, you know, it was like um ten o'clock, eleven o'clock in the morning. Okay, the game was so for noon. You know Lily Fields of

Day game Joint. You know, they just had night games for too many years now, Okay, So the fans were going in and there's this real sleepy looking guy was probably one of the rickets, you know, on a on a coattail over there is had half cocked. You know, look, I've been drinking all night. And I gave him the box and he said, who's it from? And I said, um, it's on the box and he looked and it's been

inspected USPS. So he's okay, I'll take care of it. Well, you know was the next thing was they were and they had my license plates. They had everything on me. You know. In fact, one one year when I hung head there, the cops asked me, how why are you doing this? You know, there's more security here than the White House because they had me a black way. Yeah, there's cameras. There's there's cameras all over that place. Yeah, it's yeah, it's it's like yeah, yeah, alright. So so

we've we've covered the goat heads. Now also, Doc, this goes back. I want to say, late in the first decade of the two thousand's, Michael Vick was a big story. Michael Vick, the star of the Atlanta Falcons. There was a federal dog fighting me. He was the most popular player in the NFL at the time, was on the cover of the Madden video game. The guy was what I always thought he was overrated as a player, but he was. He was a very exciting, very popular player

on the highlight reels and all that. Back that was in the days before the internet really blew up. And so one of my favorite Doc Mike stories is you traveled to Leavenworth, Kansas to have a meeting with Michael Vick, and you called us up and you were our unpaid corresponding calling this up from across from the federal prison, the penitentiary there whatever you said obviously there in in. Uh, yeah,

you were. You were hanging out and you each day you said you were there for several days, you went in and put your name, You tried, you requested a meeting with Michael Vick. And I remember you doing the play by play on that doc. That was a fascinating moment in show history. And uh, because I remember every day there were little news nuggets coming out about Michael Vick. But here we were an overnight show and I think

I was doing weekend overnights at that point. And you were, you were, you were standing outside the prison day after day, Doc, waiting for that meeting with Michael Vick. Well, the thing was, you know, I got the inside track from the guards there that he wasn't in with the general population. Okay, they put him in a clinic in a white uniform, no stripes, and he was I don't know, empty and trash cans or you know, Washington windows or something in there.

He wasn't with the general population. So he did. And of course he's a pretty tough dude. He probably wouldn't have gotten messed with anyway. You know, they probably wouldn't been asking for autographs. But um, he had a life Oreilly over there for his prison term. Yeah. Now when you you had your little situation with the State of Illinois which led to your band. Oh cool, listen, Doc, I can't I can't do the full retrospective on the podcast here. We we had you on the radio show,

which we'll get you later. During the beginning of COVID for a full we had the Doc Mike Power Hour, which was very well received by the way, so hopefully this podcast will will do well as well. But the famous story go back to when we were on Overnight in Chicago on the Score, which is a massive radio station which booms all over the Middle part of America, and it's the people got a complete education on steroids,

that's what. Yeah, because they liked steroids so much, and there were there were doctors at the Bears that were administering the steroids and they thought, well, you know, we can't have this, you know, we gotta we gotta have I don't know about all that, but all I know, Doc is that you you were banned in part of your punishment from the State of Illinois. Is you could not call the radio show for how many years? Doc careers?

Two years? And uh? And then I remember, I've given you my number, and I tell the story all the time. I remember I gave you my phone number. Doctors. You were very concerned about getting ahold of me when the two years was up, and so I said, listen, Doc, I never give out my number. This is a very important thing. This is my phone number. Do not give this out to anyone. And I said, call me when the two years is up, and then that's it and then we're good. And uh, you have called me, Doc

every week at least once a week since that. It is an amazing Doc. You are a machine, my man, a machine on the phone. Uh and uh, I get the whole play by play as I don't really travel that much anymore, Dock. You know, I'm pretty locked in in the l A area here. But you know you're invited. You're invited to Minnesota because Green Bay is not that far from I know you've got relatives or in the Green Bay area up there. Yeah, no, I do, I do. And and the planted with through Minnesota. Well that was

very nice of Regina. No, we have a lot of We do very well the show in Minnesota. That's one of the great markets for the show. We do very well on CA Fan. There's a lot of people that are up really weird hours in the Twin Cities and they enjoy the station. And we just happened to be on the station. It's not really because of our show. Those that those guys want to have you. Wasn't that uh some group in Kansas that was an affiliate or

something like that. Oh yeah, well, yeah, we'll get to that, Doc. That was the Kansas City store. But the Minnesota thing I I had planned before all these you know, shutdowns and all that stuff that happened in at the beginning of I was going to go to Minnesota. That was my plan. We're gonna have just like we could all met up there because Regina's you know, yeats, there's no doubt. Well you know, I happily married man. But yeah, I

thought she's marrying you, Doc. I thought you and her were an item there Regina and you, well, we got we got sidetracked a little bit while I was up there. I understand. I understand. So anyway, that doctor plan is my brother does live in Appleton, Wisconsin, which is part of the Green Bank. Yeah. Yeah, So the plan was actually to come to Chicago and then drive up through Wisconsin up to Appleton. It's not that you know, you

go to Connie's. Yeah, well of course and uh and all that, and so then being in in Appleton, we could cruise down to Minnesota and and find some restaurant and hang out much like we did in Kansas City back in the day, Doc, and do a listener meet and greed I did one. Last one I did was in Seattle. I've done done in Boston, Pittsburgh, Syracuse. Uh from your guy from Seattle came to Chicago, Yeah? Which

oh the other yeah East from the Bay Area. Yeah yeah, yeah, you met him, a big forty Niner fan, right, Yeah? And you met another did you mean another? We have another listeners in Chicago, the Chicago area that I think either met you or wants to meet you. I don't know if you met him or not, but it's probably I want to be Yeah, I want to I want to meet the dock. I want to meet the Doc. Now, you actually met my wife, Doc before she was my wife. You in Kansas City. Yeah, and you scared the hell

out of her dock. I gotta tell you that. Yeah. Yeah. So we we went the unveiling of the ben other chicken fingers, which Doc drove down from Chicago to Kansas City. What year was that. That had to be about ten years ago. I think it was longer than that. Yeah, I had my house. Yeah, it was a long time ago. So we went to Kansas City and it was great jeopardy al was there a lot of the big fans at that time, big listeners in Kansas City. We had

a guy drive in from North Carolina. You came from Chicago. It was great, and you set up shop, Doc, and when you had your own table, you were signing. You had T shirts. I felt so bad that you had more stuff to give out than I had. I had nothing. I just had my my fat ass, as you would say. I was there and you you were doing your thing, and it was it was Doc signing autographs. You of course did not I think we forced you to eat like one bite of the chicken finger or something like that,

but you didn't want to. You want to know part of that, Doc, because that's not I don't do anymore fans fans No sodium chloride, Yeah, yeah, so anyway, so after the after the appearance, we got done, and this was in kind of a suburb in the Kansas City area, but it was at night. By the time we got done and we were finishing up, the restaurant was closing, and we walked out, and I think we walked out with you, and you had said I was with my my my now wife. It was just my girlfriend, and

you said, hey, I got something for you. And so it's a dark street in Kansas City, it's late at night, and I don't really I don't even know Doc. I don't really know Doc Mike other than from the fact he called the show and at that point he'd been a caller for maybe ten years or whatever it is, or less than that. So Doc's like, hey, I got something for you. And I'm standing there with my girlfriend

and tactos. He pulls out a a screwdriver. All right, He's standing up with a screwdriver in a dark street in Kansas City and says, you wait till you see this. He then proceeds to walk to the I think it was the front of the car there and gets down on his his hands his knees there and proceeds to take off his license plate from the car and then

give it as a souvenir, which I still have. Doc, I haven't probably plate here and you that's not the only I think You've sent me multiple license plates over the years. But it was. It was a crazy scene, Doc, because I still have that vision of you say hold on, I've got something for you, and you're holding up You're holding up a screwdriver on a on a dark street in Kansas City and I barely know you, and I'm like, here we go, here we go, Doc, Mike is going

to shank me on the street. But it turned out. Of course, you were very kind. Doc. It was fun and I'm so happy that you were there that night. It was a great night and we had a lot of fun meeting listeners and fans of the show and telling stories. And I want to get back to doing that, Doc, I gotta get to minnes I gotta get it's an atti. Also, we got a lot of guys that are big fans of the show in Cincinnati. That's that's something my to

do list, and so it just bounce around. But I've done a few of those things in Boston, but Minnesota at the top Okay, that's not a long drive for me to Uh So I've got to accommodate. I've got to accommodate, Doc, Mike schedules. What you're saying, I got to accommodate the doc is what I've gotta do. And try to try to get there in the summer too, so i can play some golf, because there's a beautiful golf course not too far from where Regia lives. So

I've never I've never spent much time. I've only been to the airport in Minnesota, like I've never I've changed flights in Minnesota. I've had layovers in Minnesota, but I've never actually gone out and say, it looks beautiful from the plane. It's just lakes everywhere, beautiful lakes and green lakes. Ten thousand lakes right there. There's actually more than there's actually more than ten thousand. They just stopped counting at ten thousand, Doc, because people love, as you know, they

love round numbers. So it's, uh, it's it's very important. They're very important. And you and Regina, Now this is a this is a thing here right there's gonna be on the show here. This is something that might actually happen. Huh, Doc, Absolutely, yeah. Um, I've been traveling, so it's difficult for me to uh,

you know, get on the show. But um yeah, we're get this little triangle going you as the preacher and into Minnesota, Chicago, and back to l A. Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. Okay, I love it, by the way, I have it right in front of me. I looked it up, Doc. The the state of Minnesota has eleven thousand, eight hundred forty two lakes of ten acres or more, but they stopped they say the land

of ten thousand lakes because it's better for marketing. Did you know, though, Doc, that your your your brothers state there. You live in Illinois. Up in Wisconsin, they actually have fifteen thousand and seventy four lakes in Wisconsin, so they actually have more lakes, and wisconstantly doing Minnesota. But Minnesota, from a marketing standpoint, a much better marketing plan because they put that on the license plates and and everything else.

So it's a it's a good job and that by that, and you love this golf dot Doc, I mean I don't remember your golfing back in the day. When did you pick up the golfing? Have you always been a golfer? Did I not know that part of your life? Doc Mike? It seems like more recently. You know, when I was working back in the day, I was working at the bank. I was a vice president of a bank, and they said you got to belong to a country club. Well, I had given up golf when I was about fourteen.

My dad took my brother, two brothers, and I golfing. He was a real good golfer and we let about two fourthsomes through us. You know, we're all hitting the ball about sixty eight feet each time we had tried to hit the ball. And that's when I gave up golf. I was a ten letterman in high school, wrestling, basketball, baseball, swimming, track, gymnastics, everything, and that was my thing. It still is. I still

trained arm wrestlers. So I gave up golf. And then I when I got to this bank in my banking career, they told me you got to belong to a country club. And they two of the directors were members there, so they pushed me right to the top of the membership list, no waiting, and I started golfing, and uh, it's an addictive sport. I've had a hole in one, I've won tournaments. I taught my first and second wives how to golf. My second wife was a tournament player when she got

done with it. Never picked up a golf club before. We've know. Yeah, see my my relationship, doctor, my relationship with golf. I I wish I was more into it because a lot lot of business deals. As you reference, you got into golf because of work. But a lot of business deals are done on the golf course. And but I'm a nocturnal person. I'm up all night doing the radio show, and so I golf is a daytime things. You can't really play golf at night, Doc, you gotta

be up early in the morning. You don't sleep much though, right, how many hours of night do you sleep? What are you talking about? There's blind people that play golf. No. I I understand you can beat the ball, But I'm saying golf courses, like you know, there's a lot I live in l A. There's a lot of golf courses in l A. But they're not open it. What manny, you come to Chicago. We got a golf course over here that's lit at night. It's the Ninth Hole course.

It's like a part three and it's a beautiful range. Three decks for hitting balls and a grass range. Also, I go there often. Okay, yeah, we can play you at night before all right, Well we'll play right now, have you there's a place in Vegas. You don't go to Vegas much though, right Vegas has the they have that I got better use for what little money I have. Yeah, well, no, you know, you don't have the gamble you can get. The Vegas used to be cheap. It's not cheap anymore. Though.

The food Vegas used to be cheap. They wanted you to spend your money gambling. Now that they have like expensive restaurants and stuff, and it's not You don't get a lot of ball, well, a lot of a lot of women, Doc, there's a lot of beautiful women. But what what happens in Vegas days? In Vegas? Yeah, unless unless you're an NFL player and commit a terrible crime, then it does not stay. It does not stay in

Las Vegas. It might get on whatever you call those h the cameras, you know, Yeah, well you don't have a smartphone. You've lived, You've lived. I know you're getting you're getting up there in age now, Doc, But you've never been a smartphone guy. In fact, you you have a cell phone, but it's not it's a dumb phone, not a smartphone. Right. I never will getting back to that golf. You know, when I got into that country club and we we uh, we're putting a bank back

on its feet. There was some um, some illegal loans they made and so on, and uh, the marketing team myself as a marketing VP, and new president, loan officer, car car guy, and and some data people and together we put fifty six million dollars in that bank in six years. Wow, it's a lot of And at the end there I belonged to two country clubs I had. I had the addiction of golf. And you can talk to any of your Irish friends over there, how addictive golf is. I mean, you just you gotta have it.

It's uh, well, I like, I like occasionally I'll go to the driving range and just let off some steam and hit some balls and things like that. But it is. If you're bad, Doc, if you're bad at golf, it's very frustrating. It's not it's not enjoyable to spend three hours chasing balls into sand traps and losing them in water. But take up and take a breath. Okay, Craft, it's the practice game percent practice and play, and then you really enjoy the game. Did you just tell me to

take a breath of my own podcast? How dare you? Doc? There? You? I can't believe you started running off over there about the dead, you know when you when you I really liked the time after you give your the ten or fifteen minutes that start the monologue, the maar monololo. Yeah, then you say okay, and then we'll take our phone calls. Okay, well your phone calls are for Ben. You know you you started running over your callers. When I had my

radio show, it was caller driven. That's all we had was callers, and I listened to these people, you know, they had their medical problems. That's what it was, you know, wake up Well show. Yeah, No, I remember, Doc, I remember the radio show. But here's the thing. They want everything in modern ration, Doc, it's it's a monologue here, it's a segment with calls. Here, it's you know, a segment with Yeah, what do you call it? And there

is there is one second air. Well. The key thing, Doc, as you know from being in your your radio show, the key thing is to keep the VU meter moving because if somebody tunes in and here's dead air, they move on to the next They're like, Okay, I'm gonna go find something else listening. Okay, what don't I forgive you for getting piste off that I'm asking you to take a breath? No, No, it's I enjoy it. Doc,

It's a drop on the show. You're part of a lot of sound bites that are gonna be played forever and ever on the radio show as long as I'm doing it. Anyway, So what happened? Not? Doc? Hold you take a breath? All right? So Doc, we were doing this. You know, this podcast is on a Friday. Here, it's kind of getting towards mid December. Now, usually by this point, Doc, Mike is in Ecuador. You are gone. You are out of the country. I thought you were going to Ecuador. Doc,

are you not going? Did you have a change in travel plans? Did your itinerary change? I took a bath on the plane ticket It was about five dollars. They wanted a twenty four hour nose test. I couldn't get that guaranteed here in Chicago, so I canceled the flight. And then I found out that Biden passed a regulation that if you're not vaccinated and you're coming back to the States, that you have to have a vaccination to get back in. So there's that was the end of it.

I'm not getting vaccinated at all. The people are dying from this thing, and so you would have been banned, Doc, you would have if if if you had left, and then you would not figured you know, you didn't know that President Biden had done that. You would have been banned from the United States for banned from calling the radio show. Doctor. You would have been an ex pat. You would have had to live the rest of your life in Ecuador, which one you say is not that.

But you seem to enjoy Equador quite a bit. Doc, You're a big fan. The women down there are absolutely gorgeous, I'll tell you, especially in the mountains. You know, that's where my clinic is. And listen to this. The clinic that I was using all the six years I was in the Andes there, it was taken over by a like a child clinic if some They had some therapists there and they were working with children. So they completely reoutfited a new clinic for me this year and they're

not gonna You're not gonna be there. There must be devastated people. And the mayor contacted the nonprofit that I worked with and told them all about it. You know how we're waiting for Doc Mike to come back because I've treated thousands of people in the ten years that I went to Ecuador. I was five years on the coast and then six years or five years in the in the mountains, and you're wonderful people. It's third World. A lot of people are medicated. We get them off

their drugs there there sugar haulics. We had got them off their sugars um. I worked with a lot of children there that had birth defects, and it was just gave me so much joy to see the recoveries of these poor people down there. It's nothing like the United States. And the people are in tremendous shape because nobody has a car. They're walking everywhere. You see women with two or three children on the side of the road walking

miles to go shopping. And then walking back with the kids. Yeah, you know, well, Doc, you should get You should get rid of your car and walk from New Mexico to California. You should. That's why that guy that's running, Yeah, that's that's that could be you, Doc. You just give up the DOC mobile and you're you're on your way. All right. Listen, I've kept you long enough, Doc, you must get on with your travels. I thank you for doing this. I appreciate it, and to it, I appreciate you. Know. This

is probably one of the longest times I've talked. In fact, it is probably just went forty five minutes because when you were in the syndicated into Chicago was max about a half an hour reading off adverse reactions. Yeah, well, we have a lot of commercials if we have commercials on this podcast, Doc, So we have that, but it's a much different format. But we've we've gone straight through so you didn't have to hear any of the commercial stock you had. You had a commercial free experience on

the podcast. And I can't wait till the day that I can get you married to Regina a nice radio wedding. You got the form. Iilled it all out for you with the names. I look forward to completing that. We need to make it a big event though, Doc, we have to. I had to a lot some time. I have to make sure that I don't want to nickel in down. This is a big wedding here. This is the first wedding I will have ever done, and on the radio, so we need to make sure that everything

is all kosher and all that stuff. So anyway, all right, Doc, thank you appreciate it. We'll catch you on the radio. Thanks. Doc,