Winds of Change

Ben Maller Saturday, Saturday Saturday. Because four hours a night or not enough, We do this eight days a week. No need for the applause. But we are here eight days a week to provide you with marginal audio content. As you know, we do the radio show five nights a week on the overnight and on demand. Absolutely so for those of you that say there is too much Mallard,

please never enough, never enough. So on this Saturday edition of The Fifth Hour, we we have breaking news, actually breaking news, the winds of change, a Fifth Hour with Ben mallor exclusive. You will not hear this content anywhere else. We will give you that coming up here in a bit. Also time snamp Madness under the covers No More and the Big Oh and whatever else we have time to get to. But let's begin with the winds of change. And they have affected our radio program. Uh, they have.

And if you've listened to this show over the last probably month or two, you have heard a lot of me and not that much of the person that I've been doing the podcast with and uh and and for the past couple of months, it's kind of been like that, less and less of West of the four oh five David A. Gascon. But that was not by design. Uh, that was not by design. When this podcast started, it was a collaboration. We were both gonna be be available

as much as we could. We make it a priority. Unfortunately, because you know, some work assignments, which is really good news for for David. He's gotten a lot of play by play gigs. He's taken other side work, acting jobs, and you name it. And as a result of his other assignments, he has been unable to provide his time for this podcast on a regular basis. And he made the decision earlier this week that that's all he don't he don't and so no More, Uh, David Gascon on

the fifth hour and Uh. Yes, I'm I'm bummed out. I was hoping we could work it out and David could be part of the podcast going forward. I think this thing is gonna be even bigger than it is right now. Uh and I truly believe that because of the the audience that has continued to go up. And we as you know, you complain about the commercials on the podcast, but that's a good problem to have, right The problem is when there are no commercials, right, that's yeah,

that's that's when things are not going well. That's that's when you haven't done your job. When there are a lot of commercials, then you're winning. Yeah, stripe up the fans. It's a big deal. Uh. So the podcast is doing very well and uh and and we I'm really happy for David because he wants to play by play and he's not it's not really a podcast guy per se. And uh and he you know, he was unhappy with some things, and we don't need to get into all

that here, but I am happy for him. I hope he becomes the play by play guy for a college or major college or an NFL team or NBA team. Someone should hire David Gascon as a play by play guy, and I'm hoping that he gets a big network job somewhere. As for the fifth hour going forward, is it going to be just a solo act, just me bloviating into a open microphone and sounding like a clown. Uh, well,

there will be a lot of me going forward. But I have talked with management as a result of the events of the last week, and I am very excited to find out who is going to fill the number two chair on this podcast. I have already had several conversations with the big boss at the company. That's how important this podcast is. That management is like, all right, we gotta figure this out because they've got we've got good advertisers here, and they don't want to They don't

want to have this thing up. They want this thing to get even bigger and better than it has been. So if you want to suggest someone who should be in the number two chair, who you think would be a great a sidekick someone writing shotgun with me, you can do that. I will tell you that the wheels are in motion. And we've already had conversations, as I said, myself and management, and we have had a couple of names that are at the very top of the list. People.

Some of them you would recognize other than other names, Uh, probably not so much. Uh. And these are people that I know in radio, people that you may know. Some have worked on the show in the past, some have not, some I've never worked with. And it's it's really a

matter of the schedules lining up. Because of the overnight show, there's only certain windows that are available for me to put the podcast together, and as a result of that, I have a pretty unusual, pretty unusual schedule, and so we have to find someone that can accommodate that schedule, and we'll see if that person is out there. Hopefully it's one of the candidates that have already been mentioned. I can't name them here. I've been told by management

not to do that. But we think of it like a Mallard fifth hour draft, right, and the fifth hour is on the clock, and the pick is in and the pick we don't have to pick. We don't We do not yet have the pick. But again, I have spoken to a couple of people that are interested in the job, and we will find out going forward. But I am looking forward to, uh to having uh, you know, someone here who's gonna be able to be part of

it and bounce things off. Uh. And I think it'll be better that way, to have someone regularly here, and we'll get bigger and better guests and all that stuff. I I do hope you enjoyed one of the more wild hours that I have had doing conversation spoken word radio. It reverberated around the podcast world. John Ziegler who joined us on the Friday podcast. And I imagine my inbox is full right now. I've not checked with emails. I can't believe you'll put that guy on. I thought he

was great. I thought he was interesting, and to me, the whole point of doing a podcast like this is to let interesting voices speak. And I was a fan John when he did radio at CALFI in l A back in the day. I do follow him on Twitter. He's a firebrand. Uh. He's a lightning rod guy, very enthusiastic, can talk and talk and talk. I wasn't even much on the podcast on Friday. It was. I asked a few questions and then I I got out of the way and I said, all right, let's get into it now.

I know some of you are gonna be upset because political bullshit Yeah, there was some of that that was part of the podcast. But everything is political now and so just kind of get over It's okay, it's not that big a deal. Life will go on. Life will going But I thought John was wonderful, and you should check that out. You know, you've got to be open minded about things and say what you want about John and in his personality, and some don't like it. I think he's as I said, I think he's very good.

But the thing about John is he has spent the better part of a decade as an investigative journalist tracking down just about everyone who's still alive tied to the penn State story. So he has not cut any corners. He is. He mentioned in the podcast, he's traveled back to State College, Pennsylvania, back to the prison in Pennsylvania

where Jerry Sandusky is in jail. He's talked to him, he's talked to relatives, he's talked to people on all sides of the spectrum, and he determined, And we can go back and hear the Friday podcast if you want, but he mentioned that he he determined, with a thorough investigation, the outcome that he did not expect, even though he was open minded going into it, but that he determined he thinks the Penn State story is a fraudulent story,

and yeah, it didn't happen. I don't know. I mean, that's what he said, and for many it's hard to believe. And uh I I have listened to some of the podcasts that John's done. He makes a very compelling argument. And as I told him in the podcast, is that if if this is all accurate, all the evidence that you have, you've pretty much laid out the roadmap for a an appeal, and what is a compelling case for

a victory in an appeal? But it hasn't happened. And John mentioned there would be some documentaries that are that have been in the works about Joe Paterno about Penn State, So we'll see if anything comes to that. But I do recommend the The Friday podcast if you did not hear our conversation with John Ziegler. Now moving on the time stamp madness, the time stamp manage, and this is I'm just gonna geek out a little bit on broadcasting.

And as you may or may not know, one of the cool jobs that I had for very for a very brief time. Couple of years, I did Dodger pregame and postgame programming. Um, I was a phil guy for part of a year. I did uh travel briefly with the Dodgers, very briefly. I went on some road trips with the team, and I got to know Vince Scully a little bit. Vince and I cons all time great right is the the o G And Vinn was very

nice to me. And just the fact that he knew my name uh as as a as a kid growing up listening to Vince Scully and watching him on TV, I was like, Wow, this guy, man, this guy knows me walking the footsteps of legends and Vinn. It's been retired and I haven't seen uh Mr Scully in many years.

And I did see on his Twitter account. By the way, Vin, I think it's an open secret, not on Twitter, but there is someone that works for the Dodgers that provides content quasi from Vince Scully and so on the the Vince Scully Twitter account, Vinn shared an interview that he did. I believe it's for a documentary and I wanted to play the clip for you because it was is great

and I love stuff like this. I love that so much of life is experimentation and just throwing spaghetti against the wall, and every once in a while, every once in a while, a bunch of that spaghetti sticks. And even the all time greats like Vince Scully, uh, they have this happened. So to set this up, Vin is doing an interview about sports commentary. It's called The Commentators, a hundred years of sports commentary and the the classic Vince Skully no hitter call and the Sandy Kofax perfect game,

which is an all time great call. If you're a fan of radio play by play, you know exactly what I'm talking about, even if you're a young punk and you know, like Sandy Kofax is like a dinosaur to you, you know that call, And so I wanted to play this. This is from the again the Vin Scully Twitter account. Do Vince Scully and this has been and will react to it. This has been telling a story about what

became his signature for no hitters and perfect games. Here's the greatest play by play man in baseball history, the Great Vince Scully. In his own words, you know when you do play by play every day, but just about sixty seven years. Once in a while, you get lucky when I say lucky. Let me explain. Whenever the Dodgers had a picture pitching a no hitter, or the opposing picture was pitching a no hitter, we would always tape the ninth inning and we would then give that picture

with whatever team. As far as a record of the night or day that he pitched the no hitter takes Andy Kofax. Cofax had pitched three no hitters, and in the course of each of the three, I always made sure that I got the a of the no hitter, so that when Sandy would be walking out to the man, I would say, and so on this July Sandy co Fax heading for the man to try and pick up X number of victories and a no hitter against so

and so. Well the night it is perfect game. In my mind was the fact, what else can I put on the tape so that thirty years from now, when he's playing it and reliving the moment, he'll have the date. All right, let's stop right there. So Vince Scully actually created the cameo. He gave Sandy ko Fax a cameo in any picture that threw a no hitter for the Dodgers or against the Dodgers. So he just mentioned the date, the origin of the date, and now he mentioned he

wanted to add something different. And this is where it gets even more interesting. The great Vince Skule, He continues, go ahead, Mr Scully, and I thought, I know, I'll put the time on it down. The time is useless as far as baseball is concerned. It wasn't in the old days, but it is now. So I did the game, and I would start calling off the time, only thinking of Sandy Kofax and the kids listening about his perfect game.

And so it was at nine he does this, at he does that, and he pitches the perfect game for the next few days. The only thing I heard about was how dramatic it was to have the time included on the game. Did I take about couldn't do it. I just happened to look out. Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. All right, so that's the sound bite from the great Vin School. A couple of thoughts.

First of all, self deprecating, right, he just looked out but the story that Ben told is something that I've heard a lot in my life. I think it's a good lesson that just experimentation getting positive feedback. We're all wired the same way as human beings. We love positive feedback. It keeps us going, right, was like, all right, you got some good feedback, you gotta you got something kind

of working here, and let's do it. And you know the idea that the whole point of ven giving the date and giving the time was just a personal audio cassette to hand to Sandy Kofax or Don Drysdale or Bob Gibson or whoever was the great picture back in those old days. And uh, I have effort start. We had on this podcast, you know, a couple of months back, we had Ted Sobel's uh in l A sports media guy icon in l A Media for years, Ted Sobel,

and he's told stories. He wrote a book about broadcasting and his experiences in l A and Brushing with Greatness or something along the lines of that. But Ted and and some other people would tell stories about going to dodge a stadium and you didn't even need to bring a radio because so many people had radios. That the soundtrack from the crowd was Vince Scully doing the play by play like the players on the field. Could hear

Vin doing the play by play? He might as well have been on the public address system at Chavez Ravine. It was that that crazy. I guess that was the days before headphones and uh and whatnot. But I really secondly, I relate to this a little bit. One of the catchphrases that I fell into was in the air everywhere right kind of hockey, kind of cornball, and I just shouted it out one time when I first started Fox was fright. I didn't say that. I didn't really have

much of anything. And one night, it was a Saturday night. If I remember as I remember it, if I'm remembering it accurately, and remember we as as we get older, our memory is a version of the truth, but not likely the whole truth, only part of the truth. But as I remember the story as I understand it, I drove, I was driving it. It was a Saturday night, overnight, and in those days it was like a six hour show, five hours live, one hour repeated, and occasionally we would

actually do all six hours live. So it was a long road in the overnight, long time and so I came in there and I just started with my usual bull crab and I began there. I was like, we are in the air everywhere, and just like Vince Gully, not quite as much positive feedback, but I got a lot of positive feedback. People like, that's a good line, that's catchy. I like that, you should say that more.

And thus here we are, many years later, and just about every hour of talk radio that I have done for probably the last ten years, I think it actually goes longer than that. I'm very bad at dates, but it goes longer than that. And sure enough, now if I begin an hour and I don't say in the air everywhere, someone inevitably will say, why didn't you say that? Well, it's up with that. How come you didn't say in the air everywhere? That's not right. You're supposed to say that.

You're the in the air every week everywhere guy, and people people get upset, and I'm like, you know, quiet, quiet, yeah, I mean, listen, a trained seal here with a beach ball and I'm just bouncing it up and down? Is that what I am? How dare you? How dare you? All? Right? Moving on from the time stamp madis. Actually, before I move on, one of the thought I had to I wanted to add a post post note on the time stamp madness. Uh, something that radio people do, that news

radio people do that becomes very important. When something either really good happens or really bad happens, it does make it more dramatic. For example, one of the worst days in my life September eleven, nine eleven, and I recall that day, and if you were alive then and you were old enough to remember, you also remember nine eleven. I mean, that's a historic person, you know, historic event

in people's lives. But I remember listening to radio and the Emergency Broadcast System came on, and I thought, wow. I always thought I've been radio a long time at that point, already in two thousand one, I actually ain't been in for seven years or something like that. But I I was like, this is always no, they don't actually use the emergency broadcast system. That's just some kind of government thing that they're not ever going to actually

use because they've never activated it in my lifetime. And sure enough, this is the emergency broadcast system. This is not a test, this is not a test, and they went through their whole thing, and and they but that and then going back in the documentary. Some of the documentaries that have been made about nine eleven, they used local New York news radio and they would say it's you know, seven on September eleven in New York, and then they give the weather and they talked about the headlines.

And that time stamp became a big part of many of the documentaries telling the story of September eleven because they took the radio broadcast count obviously you know where this is going, and to build up the drama of how the world changed when we found out about the hijacking, the plane that hit the World Trade Center tower, the first tower, and then the second plane, but the time

stamp before it. There was a time stamp after the first planet hit, and then another one after or you know, in between, and then uh one after and that became

a big part of telling that story. And it was giving a time stamp, which you actually do in radio, which has often been a courtesy right now, there there is a little inside radio stuff that it used to be uh the diary format in terrestrial radio, where you would have to fill out a diary and physically right down the time that you were listing, like pen paper, the whole thing. You'd have to log that you were listening to a station. I think I think they don't

do that anymore. I believe it's on the internet. I don't know. I don't think I'm supposed to know how they keep track of radio ratings. We have We have many more ways to track audiences now than we did in the early days with my career because we have internet. We I'm doing a podcast now, we know exactly how many people listen to this podcast. We can tell advertisers

X number of people listen to the podcast. The cool thing about being on the radio show during the week, you know, as a as a radio geek, one of the one of the things is that we not only have the live audience, the overnight worker that people working in factories, driving trucks, making food in kitchens or just dealing with insomnia, but then we have people that listen only to the podcast. So it's like double dipping, which

is kind of cool, right. It's like, you know, some nights on the overnight there's not as many people listening. Might be a might be a holiday, which I think more people listen on the holiday is there kind of bummed out by themselves or whatever. But there are nights is a little slow, and we know when we're doing the show that, yeah, you know, the live audience it might not be really clicking, but the podcast they're there. They'll be there in the podcast. So that's that's kind

of cool. But but that's one of the timestamp thing in radio. I remember I had a program director when I first got into the business who's like, every time you open up the microphone, you give the name of the station and the time you're listening to Extra Sports six ninety it is four fifteen in the afternoon, you know. So that's what we're supposed to say. Alright, So under the covers, no more, Under the covers, no more. Uh, this is a tribute, if you will. We don't know

when to do tributes. But I read a story the other day and I guess this guy radio legend, his final broadcast as a regular employee was on Friday night. So last night Steve Summers Steve Summers his final night hosting at w FAN. Now you if you're not a radio geek or a big radio fan, you might not know that, but I feel like we have a fair amount of people that like this, maybe you who love radio and appreciate the ancient art of spokes spoken word broadcasting.

And I I bring this up because Steve Summers was an original. He was hired at w f A N in New York City in its inception in nineteen seven I and he has worked there ever since then. So he is done skis now and I wanted to take a couple of minutes to celebrate the career of Steve Summers thirty four years. Thirty four years mostly as a night guy. Most he has an overnight guy, and his stick was the Schmooze. He was known as the Schmooze and he had his own catch phrases that he would

he would say at the beginning of every hour. That was his his touch doing radio and made him distinctive, made him stand out right talked about schmoozing. He called him the Schmooze and he would spell out sports and that was that was his stuff. And he had nicknames for all the New York teams in the Tri state area and all that. So here's how I relate to Steve Somers. Years ago in the late nineties, I was doing local radio in l A. And in fact, I

remember the year. It was the reason I remember that I'm always positive as night. It was either night now now I'm not now, I'm second guest. He was either ninety eight or ninety nine, but I think it was the Dodgers had traded Mike Piazza. So I remember that trade happened in if I remember correctly, it had happened pretty early in the baseball season, and Mike Piazza was traded to the Marlins, and he was a big star. Is the biggest star of the Dodgers had had since

Sandy Kolfax. The guy was an icon in l A. And in those years that the Lakers were terrible and and the Dodgers ruled the roost in l A sports. And so we were on the local l A show and Piazza got traded to the Marlins. He spent a week or something like that in Miami, and then he got repackaged to the Mets. And so Piazza was about to play the Mets. I think I'm pretty sure it was ninety eight, and so after the trade, it was gonna his first games against the Dodgers. So I hopped

he hopped and scdadle off to New York. What happened to my brother happened to be, you know, living there, had been there a few years at that point, so I was like, all right, I'll stay with my brother and do the night show. Back to l A. And

I need a studio. So they hooked us up at w F A N which was at the Queen's Story of Movie Studio, TV and Movie Studio in queens In and I did it from the w FAN Studio in the back their their production studio, and Steve Somers had been working at that station at He did the night show when I came in, and then Joe Boningo was was also doing some stuff he had he had been there so so away I ran into Steve Somers. I didn't really talk much, but I remember him at that time.

You know, he was beloved and fellow. You know New York night owls there the insomniac crowd, we're we're big fans of the Schmooz. It is relatable ties into the story we told about Vin Scully and Vin mentioning. The reason that whole time stamp thing pig came a thing was as a result of good feedback. Right. Originally it was just kind of a cameo and he was like doing a shout out, you know, co Fax or Drysdale or whoever throws the no header or the perfect game

or whatever. And then it just became what he was known for. Give the time and you got tremendous feedback. So Steve Summers said the same thing. I saw an interview that he did, and he had said that one night on w f An. He just started saying that he was schmoozing, which is a good Yiddish term, the schmooze, and that became his thing. He became known as the schmooze. That became his stick a law for the rest of his time at w fans. So good luck to Steve Summers.

How about that seventy four years old? And I was wondering, that's a that's a pretty long way way. I'm getting up there in age now. I feel I don't feel it, but people tell me, oh, man, you're you're a dreaded middle age guy. And I'm like, yeah, I guess i am. How the hell did that happen? But then I'm thinking, how many more years am I gonna do this? And will I even have a choice. Will I have the carpet pulled out from underneath me, or will I have

an opportunity to pick my end date? In radio, it's the great mystery, right, the great mystery of life. As Aaron Rodgers said, it's a beautiful mystery. But Steve Summers is seventy four years old and has continued to work mostly nights, mostly overnights, weekends and all that, and he's continued in the business into his mid seventies. What a tremendous run in radio. And without w f a N succeeding, there's likely no Fox Sports Radio. There's none of that.

Like f a N. When it started, that was the guinea pig, and it turned out the guinea pig worked. It went really well, uh and people loved it, and it built up an audience in w f AN is at different points than the number one radio station in New York City in all formats, and it's been consistently a top ten station. But in the coveted demographic that advertisers really want, the fifty four thirty four whatever it might be, whatever picked any demographic you want. They they

do very well with dudes. But as I have said on the radio show The Terrestrial Radio Show many times, the twenty four hour sports radio format began because of gambling, because of illegal gambling. You know the stories about the NFL game with gamblers, and you know the original NFL owners were involved in horse racing in different gamblings, some of it legal, some of it illegal. NASCAR started with

illegal activity. Well, twenty four hour sports radio. The premise of it was you had to wait to get scores the following morning, or you could turn on a news station and get scores, but you didn't get a lot of information, and they will only give you a select number of scores at fifteen and forty five past the

hour on a seven news radio format. Be sure to catch live editions of the Ben Meller Show week days at two a m. Eastern eleven pm Pacific, And so they wouldn't you wouldn't get the context that you needed if you were a gambler. So if you had a neighborhood bookie and and you wanted to put a bet down, you would have to wait to get the score. And the big problems you've lived on the East Coast was

the West Coast games would make the newspaper. The paper would go to bed and they would say, you know, Mets, Mets, Dodgers, Mets Giants, Mets Padres would be in progress in the seventh innings, so you might have to wait a couple of days to find out if you want your bet or not. And there were these things called score phones that you could call up and they would just they would give you the scores. Of course, they would give

you like seven or eight minutes of commercials. And by the way, the scores are four, three, six, five and three to two, and those are your baseball scores from the West Coast, and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. And oftentimes when you call those things, they would then call you back, auto'dal you back and harass you as I remember, as I remember, But so w f AN worked and as a result that led to other stations.

The first twenty four hour sports station on the West Coast was the mighty six nineties in sun Diego, which was actually in bo Ha, California and booming from Baja to the Canadian Rockies, and so f AN started on the East coast, and Extra Sports six nineties started I think in eighty nine or ninety. It was within a

couple of years. Within a couple of years, Extra Sports six nineties started and it did well, and then we were off to the races, and slowly and surely there are hundreds and hundreds of stations that carry the sports radio format. Tony Bruno launched ESPN Radio, which became the first twenty four hour outlet, and there were some other ones along the way. There was Sports Fan Radio Network, there was one on one Sports out of Chicago, big twenty four hour network. Uh, there's a guy, Ron Barr

that did a syndicated overnight show talking sports. And then eventually Fox Sports Radio started in the early two thousands with Tony Bruno, the man who starts all the big sports networks, the o G who we've had Tony on the podcast, the great Tony Bruno. And so that's a little sports radio one on one. I not quickly, We don't have a lot of time, but as far as the Big Oh is concerned, and this is the life of Maller, the life of Maller. So after several weeks,

after several weeks, I finally finally visited the Big Oh. Uh. Now not not not that not not that big oh, the big Oh. I had my trip to the optometrist. Now, as you may or may not remember from a previous episode of the Fifth Hour, I was talking about a story. I was in studio after Dodger playoff game. So I was back in the mother Ship and I took a photo with Eddie and while taking the photo, I always take my glasses off when I take a photo because I'm self conscious. I don't like the way I look

in glasses. So I took the photo off. I took the glasses off, I took the photo. There you are talked that way up. So I took the glasses off to take the photo. I placed the glasses in my pocket. Uh. And then Roberto was like, hey, you gotta get back and start talking. So in the rush, in my haste to get back and start talking on the on the show, I sat down and I didn't even realize at the time. I was like, wait a minute, I need my glasses. So I'm sitting down, I'm talking talk talk talk, talk talk.

It was before the top of the hour, and I reached down to get my glasses and abracadabra, hocus pocus, much to my dismay. Much to my dismay, my glasses. I grabbed the glasses, I pulled them out, and I said, wait a minute, my glasses seem a little soft, you know, a little lighter, a little lighter. Here, what is the us all about? And uh I looked down and there

it is a half half of my glasses. And of course I start, I start, I'm I'm just I'm you know, I turned the mic, I'm cursing up a storm and all that stuff, and uh, Roberto and the guys they're doing the old Nelson from the Simpsons, and everyone's like, oh my god, how does that happen? These are expensive glasses. And so anyway, as a result, I needed a new pair of bifocals I had I had in the past, I had in the past kept a backup pair, which I'm glad I did, and so obviously I used those.

And but from my old pair of glasses, it was turned out the lots the parties over. So I finally had my first appointment new eye doctor. I did not go to Costco. They were booked up. Plus my wife. I said, no, no, you gotta go like the traditional eye doctor. I said, who cares all it's the same thing they when they went to the same optometry school. But anyway, she wanted to go to the local eye doctor. Uh. So we finally got an appointment with the new doc.

Full battery of eye test my eyes, all the usual stuff, all the hoops you have to jump through to get new glasses. And I'm happy to report I passed my exam. My hearing is all left up, but my vision, they told me, are aging. My eyes are aging at a normal rate. I am in the proper percentile for someone my age. I don't know if that's good or bad.

I'm not sure if that's good or bad. But I knew when I was a kid, based on common sense, I was gonna need glasses because my mom and my papa, my mom and dad both wear war glasses, and so I knew the odds, based on the genetic makeup and me being a direct result of half of them, that I would need glasses. Now spoiler alert, here's here's where

it gets even more interesting. The big Oh. So I go to the Thomas Stress to get the glasses, and then I get the exam to give me the prescription, and the spoiler alert, I go to check out the glasses. We find a pair of glasses that I allow my wife to pick out. And the reason I do that, and the reason I allow my wife to pick out the glasses is because A I don't really care, and be I can't see myself. I don't have eyes looking

at me. And no matter what pair of glasses you pick, I'm going to say, boy, look at that four eyes nerd. What a poindexter. So I don't even worry about it. I'm like, Okay, I I know who I am. Uh, And there's no there's no need to get all sappy about it and all that stuff. No, I mean, listen. So anyway, anyway that we go to pick out the glasses, I find a pair that my wife likes, I approve, So we give the glasses to the person behind the counter.

They then say, well, unfortunately, your dome is so big. How big is it that the glasses will not fit? Your head is too big? You have a melon head. And this is what's known as big skull problems. So now I am on the prowl for some spectacles that I will will find it will fit my large cranium. I have considered going online. I found a couple of websites. If you have a suggestion, you have helped me out tremendously. You helped me out. I had an out aunt problem

with the Malo Mansion. Listeners to this show, the Ben Mallory Radio Show and the podcast have given me the solution the Toro Aunt traps that I always use when we have an aunt infestation, and you have helped me now with the mosquitoes, I have used a couple of different options that fans of the show have recommended, and I've had different levels of results with that. So now I'm asking if you have a big head and you

wear glasses. This is a very small percentage of those listening, but I'm trying to only talk to you right now. Please please uh send a link if you have a suggestion some place that's got a reasonable reasonable price, that would be great, That would be absolutely wonderful. Anyway, I

have a wonderful rest of your Saturday. We will have a mail bag, a wonderful, glorious mail bag on Sundays Sunday Sunday, and don't forget cameo dot com if you would like to have a personalized video message, cameo dot com and you can check that out also on Twitter at Ben Mallard, Instagram, Ben Maller on Fox, Ben Maller on Fox, the Facebook page. A lot of content for this podcast, in fact the mailbag. Some weeks we get a lot of questions, some weeks we don't get that many.

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