Waking Up

starts right now in the air everywhere. We're back at the podcast was on sabbatical a lot longer than it was supposed to be on sabbatical, but we are back this weekend. Good to have you along with us. The global reach of I heart Podcasting available wherever you get your podcast. You already found it, so you know that. And we do this podcast now, back at it for eight days a week, because four hours a night clear really not enough in the overnight and back against his will.

He did not want to do this. There was a lot of pushback to do the podcast this week. David Gascon is back West of the four oh five past. I had to twist your arm a little bit Gascon. You did not want to come in here and do this. You had other things you wanted to do, but that, but not the podcast. I don't know if it's twisting my arm as much as it's pouting. But when you can call it twisting, you had a little Kyrie mallment, dude, I mean this podcast. Where's you out, Kyrie? Kyrie was

taking off work to do nothing. I I don't take off work to do nothing. I take off work to do other work. Well, Kyrie took off work to go on a zoom call for a political candidate in New York City angling parties. It's a little frazzled, but he's he's doing. Okay. I did not see that photo until you sent it to me. And then when you sent it to me, I thought, okay, I need to slowly go through this because there's something in here that he

wants me to see. And then one by one by one, I started It's like a bingo card, right, That's exactly what it was when I started looking at everyone else. So, just to give the story, so a friend of mine sends me this text, Hey, guess who's not at the

NETS game tonight? But and then it was obvious. And then it was Kyrie on a zoom call with like a bunch of other It looked like the Brady Bunch open there's a outdated reference, but it had you know, like a zoom call, had all these boxes and there's there's a Kyrie checking in full of vitality there and certainly looked fine and not playing in the game that night. I love that it was just before the start of the game. It was like a few minutes before the

Nets game. I want you to start, and there's there's Kyrie doing his thing. But has anyone gone more full Looney Tunes in sports over the last few years? And then Kyrie I'm talking about recently? Oh no, But I mean, if you're gonna go full Looney Tunes, then you have to be And it's Rodman right, like, don't you just have to go a wall, go to Vegas, bang some strippers, do some coke, and then come back to work. Well, well, Rodman was able to play for the Chicago Bulls while

doing a lot of that. He had, you know, occasionally needed a vacation, as we learned in that documentary in twenty where he had to go to Vegas and just for whatever. But but he was. And I remember when the Bulls would come to La to play the Clippers of Lakers. The stories of Rodman's activities were legendary and he didn't slow down. And it's like when I was around baseball players years ago and I traveled a little bit with the Dodgers and the the guys in the bullpen.

They dragged me along. I was a young guy. We went out and had a wonderful time at the different clubs and different cities. And then I could you know, I was young and I hadn't lived that life, and I could get I was like, I couldn't even get out of bed in the hotel room, and then these guys are going out pitching. Remember what time it was in New York and then the Mets were still playing

Chase Stadium back then. But we had a very interesting night where I got back to the hotel room as the sun was rising in Manhattan and they had a day game against the Mets. It was a getaway game against the Mets, and a couple of guys I was out with frolicking around pitched and I was convinced they were gonna be terrible. They were fine, it's like they went it was their routine and they I couldn't believe. I was like, wow, isn't the old guys are like

a battery acid in there in their body. Isn't the old story that David Wells through his perfect game with a hangover? Well there's that, and then there's that picture from the pirates who was on on What was he on? Um? Some kind of drug? I forget what it was. But back in the in the seventies, you know, if they weren't playing well, I wanted to see someone come out and throw some haymakers, you know, and get and get

them in line. But now because of the way this is gone here instead of bare knuckle box in some pugilism um, they don't want any of that. They want they want It seems like the consumer only wants positivity when it comes to this stuff. They don't want to hear anything I And it's like they defend these people like they're they're you know, they're sisters and their brothers. It's odd to me, but that's that's the way it goes. It's a tough line, though, because there's a lot of

negativity already in this world. Why have any more on top of it. Well, yeah, I mean that's the the argument, but they treat it personal. I I've never been there with us. I love the Clippers, and when the Clippers suck, I I point out that they suck. Same thing with the Dodger in the ram. I'm not afraid to to do that. I think you should do that. I think that's a good fan. I think a bad fan is to just be a blind sheep and be a lemming, and no matter what happens, you're like, oh, it's okay,

don't worry to make drinks some more kool aid. I mean you don't. You don't need the amen choir is what you You don't need that. So at least that's my opinions. I realized there's a lot of people in radio that now that the younger guys in radio act that way too. They don't do that that much of the extreme criticism, but their jobs are safer when they don't.

You would agree when you go when you go looking over that edge a little bit like if you go full blown Tony Bruno, unless you're Howard Stern, like you can't look over the edge and have a security blanket. You go over, you could fall over, and just yeah, well, it's always like it's a it's a risk assessment. Yeah right, it's risk assessment, and you have to do cost benefit analysis like is it worth your time? Right, the old risk reward situation. And that's always been true, and it

really depends. It used to be if you made enough money for the show, if you were the number one morning show or the number one afternoon drive show, you had carte blanche, you could, you know, show me the

money and people would would just cow tounty. But then you know, it's like I remember when I was doing local stuff and the Clippers were terrible, and but they were on the station, so they we were told it was a partner, so we had to be careful because and I was like what and uh, And then you know, it's just it's just the way the game. The game has played there and all that stuff. But hey, it's been interesting. It's good for talk radio. Though the James

Harden trade. It's not good for the NBA that the employees are deciding where they're working and all that. That's not particularly great, but it's good for sports radio. And Kyrie is the gift that keeps giving. He is the cash cow. He is wonderful, But do you feel more inclined or less inclined to watch these games though with these guys going in and out of the lineup. Yeah, I mean the whole thing. It's also without the fans too, you know, this a whole the whole deal. It's just

not I talked to Eddie about this this weekend. He's like, he seems okay with it and cool with he doesn't watch the NBA. That doesn't count, no, I know, but he's like, you know, he just doesn't seem to mind the lack of fans, Like I still still bothers me. I'm not not that I loved the cutaway shot to Joe Blow getting all excited, but just the energy, just the whole vibe and all that. I think it depends on the sport like n b A. You know this, if you're at a Lakers game or a Heat game,

you get those courtside shots. They're usually nines and tens that are getting looked at, but then double at Those are lottery picks, right, But the n C Double A tournament, you want to get the kid crying his ass off because the team just got beat in the sweet sixteen and and he thought they were to make a run at a twelve seed. I'm down. Aren't need these grown adulters sobbing. I don't need to see the drum major hears running down their eyes there because their team was eliminated.

Eliminated as opposed to Mr un Limited, the quarterback of the Seahawk. All right, so I did want to spend a few minutes many people asked about. Well, first of all, my my dad, I want to thank many of you that reached out to me. Thank you. I've not written back to everybody, but very difficult times, you might imagine, So I'm gonna try to get back to everybody at

some point here. Um, there's still a lot of stuff to do as far as that is concerned, and my brother has been out from New York helping me with some of that stuff, a lot of it, actually, so I do appreciate that. And while I was away, Tommy Losorda passed away, and at some people that were emailing me asking me for some Tommy the sort of stories.

And I'm just gonna spit ball this off the top of my head here because I I didn't, you know, prepare anything per se But my relationship with Disorta is a pretty bizarre one, I would say, because I grew up of watching the Dodgers and any Angels, not just the Dodgers, any angel. I grew up in Orange County, so I watched the Angels too. In the Dodgers, uh, And I watched the eighty eight World Series on TV with my my parents, and I saw the Gibson home

run and all that. But in nine four, I got I got a gig where I had access to cover the Dodgers. That was the first year I had media credentials to cover the Dodgers. Losorto was still managing. So I'm mind you, I'm like a teenager or whatever, and um, you know, interviewing all these people that a few years ago I was watching on TV, and you know, it's a weird thing. So but Losorto was managing the team in four and I covered the team the last the

last two and a half seasons that he managed. He he left in the middle of the nineties six season. He had I think he had a heart attack. He had a health problem, and he was replaced I believe by Glenn Hoffman was the interim manager that Bill Russell took over whatever doesn't matter, but anyway, so, uh, you know, I was in awe when I was first around the sword.

I mean the sort was a bigger than life personality and to see behind the scenes, behind the curtain, to see how it all operates, you know, it was it was ile and I was like whoa. You know. I was in the same way and renovated the locker room at Dodger Stadium in Forever. So it was a crap

locker room. But a couple of things I remember about those years, the last couple of years Tommy was managing the Dodgers is he always had the buffet, the post game buffet in his office, so the players, if they wanted to get food, had to walk past his desk to get food. He had this big, long table. It was like it had drawers underneath it, but it was

the buffet table. And so they'd bring in that night's meal, the postgame meal, and so you know that I remember remember call that and also remember the two types of the sword. And this was very intimidating for a young radio stringer, okay, because I didn't really know the rules, and I kind of learned as I went along. You know, most people do that, and nobody told me here's what

you do, here's what you don't do. But my first time, first two times around the Dodgers in in the ninety four season, I recall very vividly when the Dodgers were winning, right when they were winning, and they were like a

pretty average team that year, right around five hundred. But when they won, you got happy Tommy, and he wanted to tell you couldn't wait for us media guys to come in there, and when we got right next to him, put the mic right there and he had a beaming smile talking about his team and whoever was pitching that day and all that stuff. So that was one Tommy. And then I remember when the Dodges would lose, it

was a totally different Tommy. He would be sullen, he would be down and uh and I recall going in there and you know, you know, I stand right next to and put a microphone down his throat, and he would be eating. He never really I don't remember ember eating after they won a game, but when they lost, he would be eating in there, and they like spitting food and all that stuff. I would call that very much. But but Tommy was very nice to me, and they did make the playoffs, and then I think the ninety

five season they made the playoffs and got swept. It was the I think that might have been the first year of the expansion of the playoffs. They were in the divisional series. They played and I think it was Cincinnati that year. I think they played Cincinnati that year, but they did not play well. That was the I remember correctly, Benito Santiago was playing for the Reds. He had a big home run and I believe it was

Game one, if I remember correctly. But that's that's the year that I stood next to march Shot behind the batting cage and I was like three times the size of March Shot and she had her dog with her. I don't remember the dog being there that day, but I remember her wearing that red sweater, the bright red Cincinnati Red sweater, and she wanted to get right behind

the batting cage there to watch the guys. And I remember the players coming up to her on the Reds and I guess you have to suck up the ownership and uh and all that. But those were the days of the Dodgers had Piazza and Carols and yeah, Jose Offerman was hanging around there. Tim Wallack was on that team, Mandy Um Yeah, and they had Hdeo Nomo Nomo Mania was going on. Tom Candiotti's knuckleball he was pitching then.

And Ramon Martinez. Yeah, my, Ramon Martinez was good. Yeah, he was a good pitcher, unfortunately not as good as his brother, but they had him too. He was. Yeah, well for a few kind of got away from them. Yeah, Ramon was more of like a twelve to fifteen game winner as opposed to a twenty game winner at Hall of Famer. Yeah, he's you know. You know, Ramon actually pitched a few games for the eighty eight Dodgers, did you did he really? Yeah? And I think not many,

but he did did end up on that team. Uh. And then some of the other memories about about Tommy just kind of scatter shot here. I recall when when Tommy couldn't manage anymore, and then eventually he became he was like the liaison for the Dodgers. He was the ambassador. He's for the rest of his life. He was the the goodwill ambassador for the Dodgers. But I remember when they had him as the Interiom general manager. And it was one of the funniest stories. I have, one of

the funniest Tommy stories. So Tommy gave this speech, this address to the assembled media, and he was going on and on about how you know, you guys can write whatever you want, you can say whatever you want. I don't care. You know, I'm the general manager. I'm gonna do what I want to do. That kind of thing, you know, a lot him achievement. I loved it. So I'm in the press dining room at at Chevez Ravine and uh Ug Kricorian, the great Dougricorian, longtime l a

sports writer, retired for many years. So Doug Recorian was riding for the Long Beach Press Telegram at the time, and apparently he had done something that annoyed the sort. And now the reason we know this is because Tommy stormed into the press box. He's the general manager of the time, goes into the press dining room and says, where's listen, where where's Krikorian? He wanted he wanted to find Doug because Doug had written something ripping a move

Tommy had made. It was just hilarious because it's like a couple of days earlier he had said, oh, no, you can say whatever you want. I don't care, you know, and all that stuff. And then I remember another sort of so I remember in Via Beach there is a few years after he was managing, and it was St. Patrick's Day, St. Patty's Day in Vero Beach and it was, you know, a big deal in spring training. They had they brought out the green beer and green hats and

they had a big Saint uh St Patrick's party. This was actually the time that the O'Malley family was transitioning to Fox, to the Fox ownership for the Dodgers, but there was a big party. We were doing the show back to l A. So it was on very late. And Tommy, who I had a you know, a pretty

good relationship with as a media guy. You know, I didn't know, wasn't close personal friends, but I thought, you know, he knew who I was, which was you know, it's a big accomplish when you're on the Dodgers of Tommy Losorda and Vince Scully knew who you were. That was a big deal. And I got I was lucky because both of them, you know, I I relationally knew my name and thing. So that was pretty cool. I was very proud of that. But Losorda was the general manager,

you know. Later on. This is before that. So we were in Vero Beach at this this this gallows St. Patrick's Day event. We're doing the show back to l A. So it's late, you know, it's like, you know, midnight, one in the morning, whatever we do on a night show in l A Bet and Dave show. And it's very rainy night in Virio Beach, like a huge monsoon is coming down, and nobody wanted to leave because it was really nasty weather and they just want to day

in party. And when you run the Dodger Town, which is I guess something else now but obviously not there. I think it's a baseball facility, training facility anyway, So the sort of comes down. He is, uh, he's wearing a he's got a big green St. Patty's Day had on, and he's enjoyed himself. Tommy, he's you know, he's at

a good time at the party. And he's in that room and we were getting vintage Lotsorta in this little small radio booth, which was the Dodger Talk booth that they did in Vero Beach that they did the shows for the postgame show, and uh, it was awesome. I mean, Tommy was just he didn't want to leave. It was like it was it was really really a lot of fun there. And I remember that. And also remember, you know, the last few years I would run into Tommy and

I I think there was something. And as he got older, I think he, um, you know, his memories started to go a little bit. But I recall like this weird connection because I had started as like the teenage guy and he was near the end. You know, it was like so he kind of remembered that I was one of the reporters that cover the team because there weren't a lot of guys left and that that were around in in the days that he was. Man, he's been a long time, and people lose jobs and do other

things and things like that. So I love being around Losorda. It was a lot of fun. And and I and also the other stories about Tommy the Great rants and and people think the Kingman rants the greatest rand. I think the one with Kurt Bovakua is even better than the Kingman ran. And and I know you've heard that over the years, like the remember the Bovacua rant from Losorda. Yeah, I'm trying to look for right now. Well it was.

It was in the nineteen eighty two. The Dodgers are playing the Padres, and I guess the Dodger pitchers kept hitting Padre batters and Kurt Bovacua of the San Diego Padres, I guess he came out and they got into a dust up, and then after the game he called Tommy the sort of that fat little Italian and uh, uh, my man, Tommy back. Imagine if you did that now. Could you imagine if Bavakua came out and said you fat little attack and today, oh my god, he'd be canceled.

He'd be canceled. It could be nothing that but in those days like okay, we'll settle our you know, this is how we do it. Men would be men, and do you say that, I'll get back at you. So the next day, let's sort of, when they was asked about it, he went on this awesome rant and uh it was. It's true. I recommends on the internet. You can find it on the YouTube. I'm sure it's on there somewhere. But Jim Healy, one of my favorite radio shows when I was growing up. Used to play it

every once in a while. But his rant was essentially uh. He said, I'm trying to get the funny like, oh, but Bavakua couldn't hit water if he fell out of an f and boat. That was one and then he said I got in the other line that was used as a dry was I garan ffort you when I pitched? This is a little sort of when I pitched and I was going to pitch against the team that had guys like on it, like Bavakua, I sent an e and limousine to get that CSR to make sure he

was in the mother fin lineup. It was awesome. It was.

And the late great Joe McDonald, the big Nasty l A radio legend, the francessa of l A Sports radio, Joe McDonald, he told me he was out there all the time and he was friends with But he told me and some of the other guys that cover the team, but way before I was around, in the heyday of Tommy, that those rants, the rants about Kingman and the rant about Bavakua, there were others that were not recorded with audio that were even better that that were lost for

time because it was just newspaper people and they were writing notes trying to repeat what he said. Um so I he had so many of those moms were the Philly fanatic got into with the Philly fanatie ache and and also Losorda is responsible for the first mascot ever being ejected from a baseball game. You know which mascot is it? Mr Matt No, you Pi the Montreal Expo's mascot and the Expo's mascot. Who's I think that Montreal

Canadians mascot now? But you p was on the dugout and would bang on the visiting dugout in Montreal, and the Expos had good teams and the Dodgers and remember they played the Rick Monday home run was in Montreal. Um anyway, sort of was so upset with his mascot distracting his team by banging on the dugout that he went out and started screaming, and anyway, the mascot ended up getting ejected first time in baseball history. Tommy the

sorta responsible for the first mascot ejection. That's pretty good. Yeah, So anyway, rest in peace, Tommy Losorda and he he will will be was I don't know. Some people think he was phony. I don't I never got that that sense. I mean, I also remember one of the other things that popped in my head when you talk about the sorta is I recall the Hollywood crowd and they had this little area outside the Dodger Clubhouse, this little cubbyhole thing outside the Dodger Clubhouse, and I remember the big

stars of the day would be waiting outside. Because the way it worked is the media they had a ten minute cooling off period. Media would come in, you had interview the sort of first, then you interview the players, then you left, and then once everyone in the media left, the sort of would welcome in, you know, some of the celebrities. And I remember the day that it was

a big deal. Frank Sinatra came to a Dodger game, old blue Eyes music allegend, Frank Sinatra and friends with with the Sorda and he came in this big limo caravanan and all that, and it was a big, big to do big to do. So again, Rest in peace, Tommy. I'm sure I'm forgetting some stories that will pop up somewhere down the line here somewhere down the line. Now I have if we have time for we can do a few I have a few bizarre, odd, crazy things

I've found on the internet. Stories. Yeah, we can do that. Did you see the story of the racing pigeon, that is the racing pigeon that could be killed? Now, no, what country was this then? All right, so this is a great story. I don't know how anyone really knows these type of things, but it's uh, it's there. So the this is from Australia. A racing pigeon traveled from Oregon to Australia eight thousand miles eight thousand miles, all right,

surviving imagine. I don't know that I could survive a trip on a boat across the Pacific, so across from the United States to all the way to Australia. And now the people in Australia so paranoid about the Boogeyman that they consider the burg a quarantine risk for the Corona and they are they're planning to kill it. Yeah. The bird arrived in Melbourne in the December. It had been in a race October twenty nine, so from in Oregon, so from October twenty nine to December. It crossed the Pacific.

They think the working hypothesis is the pigeon, which is named Joe by the way, Joe the pigeon. They think that Joe the pigeon hitched a ride on a cargo ship across the Pacific. See, that's a smart move by the bird, because you might say, maybe in the middle. Imagine if you're a bird in the middle of the Pacific, You're like, Okay, I'm gonna take off now, well you would die right there's nowhere to you know, you couldn't make it back and all that, And so I stayed

on the boat. Cargo ship gets to Australia and now the Australian Quarantine and Inspection Service are freaking out and they're like, oh, this is unsafe. Sounds like the the Great movie Outbreak. I don't know if you were watched that movie back in the day. Dustin Hoffman, Renee Russo. I feel like I did, but I don't remember. So you can repeat Kevin Space he was in it too. Um let's see, because Dustin Hoffman was in the military, but he was a it was a medical doctor and

him and Renee Russo had a splitting up. Anyways, what happened was is that this monkey had a virus. It was called like the Mutabi virus. Yeah, and it hit on this cargoes ship and it scratched one guy who had it as a pet, and he died on the boat. But the monkey was still in the in the cage, and so it went to a pet shop but I think in San Francisco or like in the middle of California, and then it was sold. It was sold after the

owner of the store got bit by the monkey. And so you have this virus that was now being pushed around this area, this town in California, and Dustin Hoffman was trying to fight off this virus. At the same time, Morgan Freeman and I want to say it was Donald Sutherland were colonels in the military and they wanted to basically napalm the entire town. So they were talking about like just blowing up this entire town because they had

a Mutabi virus. So Dustin Hoppman and Kuba Gooding Jr. Were able to get the host, the host monkey, extract the the the antibodies from it, and then injected into people to make them a hole again. So that's that's tremendous movie knowledge, guest. And I'm I'm shocked that you remember all those details. They're just reading on the internet. No, no, it was the nineties. We got no internet right now. It is that right. The internet is not working? Is

what happened to the internet. Man, I'm happy the door is open, right. This thing is being held together by a tin can and some tape and mcgiver's pocket knife is keeping this thing going. When you go back to the studio, what's it gonna be like? Because before you laugh, you were you were high hurtling over trash. Um. You know. The wall was was taped up with with sponsor logos and those aren't there anymore. Um. I wonder if you know how to get back into the building. It's been

so long. Wow. Uh, well I was supposed to go pick up the mail you get a lot. Yeah, I haven't haven't been able to do that because of some stuff. And yeah, I'll get back there. But I have a feeling we'll probably doing this kind of set up for a while, so I don't think, you know, even when things they get back, I have a feeling that the the setup will continue, uh later on. But But anyway, what other story. I a couple other bizarre stories that I saw surfing around the inter web, the interweb. Do

you see the magic mushroom story? No? What's the shout out super marios? I don't know what is the magic mushroom story? Not those kind of magic mushrooms are I'm gonna send you the story here is. Well, you don't have internet, but your phone's working. It is it is? I got rented person up, we can talk. What's that rent a person who does nothing in Tokyo? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good story. That's something. Well you can do that right now. So yeah, in Japan, this guy, I

think this is a legit story. I've never heard of this newspaper, but it's it's the Japanese National Daily since nineteen two? Is it the Menici? Is that how you say it's good? I've never been never been to He've been to Japan. No. I do want to go to Tokyo though, that'd be awesome. Yeah, my dad used to. One of the big trips he went on when he was working as an engineer was to Japan, and he loved He always would tell the story about going to Japan and how cool it was and how you know,

it's just amazing the whole. You know, just opened his eyes to this whole. It was really cool for him. But anyway, so in Tokyo, this thirties seven year old guy rents himself out to other people. He's like, I think that's like what prostitutes do. Anyway, he rents himself out to other people's quote do nothing, and he has been apparently overwhelmed with people on social media whatnot very

happy with his support. I guess in the Japanese culture, apparently you're supposed to work and you're not supposed to be a lazy slug, and this guy is a lazy slug. He'd do well here in America. And there's a couple of things though, So he can eat and drink with you and give simple feedback, but he can't do anything more. This is better than cameo. Yeah, well, considering now, he charges ten thousand yen, which works out to be nineties six dollars per per request. Yeah, and I should really

charge in cameo. I should do yen because it sounds more impressive. Boy, right, No, because if you charge in yen, it's gonna have a higher dollar amount you don't want to have. No, no, no, no, no no, because forty dollars in yen, forty U s dollars is four thousand Japanese yenn. Yeah, so that's great though, I'm I, I am. My price on cameo is four thousand dollars. That might intimidate some people though, but it's yen, I know, but

people don't know any better. Uh, well, I could do I can do pesos, right, you can do pastos, Yes, I can do pastos. That's seven hundred eighty eight dollars in the Mexican peso. So that's that's some more impressive than forty bucks. Now, would you Rushton? I've I've I've not been to Mexico. I've been I used to work in Sandy. I never spent time in Mexico. So how how much does the pain? How far does the pace go? If I had seven Mexican paces, how far would that go?

Pretty far? It would? Yeah? So like how I mean, how much your drinks? How many pay if I went to a bar in Tijuana? How much your drink? Oh, you can get drinks really cheap beers or even just their their well drinks like liquor and some kind of you're not supposed to drink the water though, No, that made that bad decision and once and mina zoomas revenge, right, Yeah, yeah, I did it on a wedding on a cruise down there Ticago. Not good. But yeah, a beara gets you.

I mean how much though, how much? Like two bucks three? So you two U S dollars? Yeah, and they take so that's like thirty nine paces It's good. Now, it's not a it's not a beer in a bottle, it's a beer in a plastic cup. But when you're in t J, you're you don't give a fuck. Yeah, but usually you're at that age of like eighteen nineteen one years old where you're down there. I don't recommend going

to Mexico anytime soon. You're experiencing. You want to stay off the roads, away from the fake federalllies that are pretending to be federalllies that are not. But even the federalllities you can I've heard from many people that cut them, cut him a check. No. Yeah, it's no different than here in California, where you have mayors and in cities like Los Angeles that cut off your power if you're

hanging out with people and whatnot. So well, just keep putting new restrictions and even though they're not working, they just keep keep doing. That's good, good strategy, sound strategy. Now, would you would you rather be this guy or would you see? Here's the thing that sucks is that this guy has something going from it's really good thirty seven years old, nineties six dollars to do fucking nothing. But then you get the females that do nothing but play

video games and they charge you to watch them. Yeah, I see, I like money, but I also have like things like ambition and work ethic and I feel like you need to have a purpose in life and those kind of things. And so I wouldn't do when when I have time off, and I had a lot before, you know, I had my my situation my dad. But I was on vacation for a couple of weeks and

it was tough. I I admitted, I'm a I'm a workaholic as much as you can be in a job like radio, but it's not like a real job like you know, working at a factory, driving a truck or something like that. But I put a lot of can do it. So yeah, all right, Well the magic mushroom story here. Uh so this is I would say, so some guy here is in the United States. He ended

up in the hospital. He had organ failure. Why, he injected himself with a team made from magic mushrooms, psychedelic mushrooms, and they claimed that these magic mushrooms started growing in his veins. Wow. Yeah, this is a journal of the Academy of Consultation Liaison Psychiatry. Wow, that's a mouthful. U the United fact man thirty ended up surviving. So he did, he did survive. And how about imagine that? I mean, hey, what's going on? Well, there's magic mushrooms growing in my veins.

Somebody better tell Joe Rogan so he doesn't go out in the Amazon there and uh the the ayahuasca Suddenly he starts injecting getting his in his veins. I don't know if you know about this, but here in l A you have certain therapists now that are actually they're doing different kind of psychedelic therapy now with their patients. They're they're using M D M A, which is ecstasy and ketamine. Is that right? Yeah? I was only you I read something the UFC is like investigating whether to

give their fighters some of those psychedelic drugs. That's fat men. I read that they used to do that back in the day. I know that, and in Europe, and then of course it's illegal here in the United States. But now they've slowly allowed this to to go down with with therapists and their patients. Yeah, it's interesting. All right, let's put the baby to bed. Guest Yes, yes, all right, we'll be back on Saturday and Sunday podcasts all week

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