Too Close to Call

fashion of fairness. He treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the rich pill poppers in the penthouse, to clearinghouse of hot takes, break free for something special. The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller starts right now in the air everywhere you cannot get away from the Mallard brand because management wants us to keep doing other shows. So it's the podcast, the spinoff version of the Ben

Maller over a Night Show. Because four hours obviously not or not not enough during the week on the overnight clearly not enough. We do this now eight days a week. At least some of us do this eight days a week. And this the Saturday edition of the podcast and we will have plenty of amazing audio content for you. Of course you'll be the judge of that, and back this weekend. You never know when he's gonna be here and when

he's not gonna be here. He's very bougie. The work ethics not quite up to standard, but David gascon nice of you something. The only offs you know, I figured, uh, you know, and salary demands aren't there met just yet. So I gotta, you know, play a little tough. I gotta play a little a little push, a little back. You know that dance would do. So just kind of sitting here with us common people, the holy poloy sitting at home. It's Ben Mallory, the common people. Yeah again,

I know you're oblivious to this. I'm in a professional radio studio from your house, with better equipment than the equipment that you're sitting in front of in that particular room. So I just want to point that out right now. I'm in a situation where the quality on my end is wonderful. Yeah, because the equipment is better. I won't be curious come tax Seas, and I know we're around the corner, but I would imagine you'll you'll push things

back a little bit. I will be curious how much money you saved in on gas, not like tires, not on oil, but gas. Well, it went up. The electricity bill went up, as you know, to pay for the electricity here for all this equipment here. It's there's a lot of equipment in this particular studio that I have, So yeah, balances out, No way, there's no way that balances out. Like you you drive a hefty, hefty ways

a way to get to the Fox Sports studios. Yeah. No, I do occasionally go in there, and I go out there and I'll check out the Neanderthals like yourself that worked there, and I'll do it. You know, time of time you check in when you need to pick up mail. Let's not confuse anybody about you checking in with people. It's killing two births of the ones. Of course, show you a little bit about my and my ambition here compared to guest gon. When when I'm doing the show

and the broadcast line goes down, what I do? Run? You know a rain storm. See, I'm hungry like a wolf. I want to keep working. So what I do? I got that fire my belly guest guy, so I gave them almobile. I didn't even put shoes on. I was in such a hurry because well, the main reason I was in a hurry is because that guy Brian Finley on the air and I could see my career going away because Brian Finley was doing the hour of radio while I was was driving around. So I was a

little concerned by that. I have I actually have a remedy for that. And for you. Yeah, this is something I was taught by someone else that works on one of these networks. Why don't you tape recording and or hour and have it in the bag so you're talking an evergreen hour. You could just put that on at a given moment there, just in case. Right, Yeah, No, it's not a bad idea. It's not a bad idea.

And uh, I have thought about it. I now. I I was in the mother ship, the Fox Sports Radio studios when Wrong Button Bob got the nickname Wrong Button Bob. When Bob Gara went nuclear and turned he hit the kill switch on the entire network four radio stations, in a switch we didn't even notice existed until Robert Garrett found it. The producer now of the Odd Couple, by

old producer and all I did. I said, you know, can you go back and reset the computer because you had to go back into the control room to reset the computer that I used when I was in there. And he went back and he flipped the switch, and uh, and then we found out what happened if Fox Sports Radio went off the air and was not met with a lot of enthusiasm because they had They did have some tape shows, but they were like ten years old talking about college basketball. They were not generic, is what

I'm saying. They were not. They were time sensitive and did not satisfy the needs of the consumer. And correct me if I'm wrong. Wasn't that the best of Steve Disager? Yeah? Well yeah, we heard the Sager doing a college basketball like n c A tournament scoreboard, which would have been fine if it had been that year and it had been college basketball season, it would have been perfectly fine.

But it was neither of those things. It would have been awes would have been awesome if it was in March, right, Like we confused? You mentioned how confused the people would be. So that's that's great. So what's what's on the menu of this? So that's fine? So all right, so on this Saturday edition of the Fifth Hour. We've got a word show, drama, rama, We've got that a lot to get to in that discussion. Also cydeclops, tales of West of the four oh five, and the nickname claim and

so we have all that. In addition, if we have time, we'll get to pop quiz as well. That's a lot of content. That's a lot of content. That's bonus content that only the p ones that tune in even on the weekends get. Other people don't get this content. Guest guy, this is amazing content. We I come in here with a lot of gumption to put this together and people,

you know, not everyone will here. We're fine. This is for the special like one per centers if you will, that are extremely locked and loaded, that support the podcast or they have nothing else to do. Well that that also well and also the honey Dooo list on the weekends. I hear that a lot from from the fellas. You know, you get the get the stuff that you gotta do on the Saturday, get up early, do some stuff, put the podcast on or there, go for a walk or

whatever whatever you do. Many different ways you can consume the podcast or your truck driver and I know from talking to moving Man Matt, the Great Moving Man out of Boston, that he will save up the podcast, the whole the full Monty and then when he goes on the road, goes to Oregon or somewhere across the country. He was just put on the podcast anyway, All right, now, Awards Show, Drama Orama. It is one of the biggest

weekends of the year on The Ben Maller Show. And if you've been listening, you know, if you've been paying attention to the overnight show, all about the lead up to the pinnacle, to the big payoff, right the crescendo. Uh, and that would be Sunday night into Monday. Now, why is Sunday night into Monday different than all other nights

on the Ben Mallor Show. I'm glad you asked. Uh. It is the night that we present in living audio color ones Benny Awards, celebrating mediocrity in marginal over night sports radio. And I know Gascon for you, this is very difficult to be part of. You now, you're not part of that show, but this is where we honor the people you consider peasants and sharecroppers and hay seeds and country Bumpkins. These are the people that are below you guesscon but to me, they're equals, and so we're

gonna honor these people. It's always a stressful time in in the show. Um, but I know you don't like that when we kind of celebrate the regular people. You were annoyed by that, Gusco. I'm a little appalled by it. I'm not gonna lie. I mean, everyone that's out there that listens to this podcast knows I'm underappreciated and undervalued and undercompensated. And to that I break my back for you.

And and then additionally, I am not I am not even up for a consideration as a benny for a commendable fill in, because that's exactly what I am, or what what you have on your show with three guys, most of them sleeping from majority of the four hours. You lean on me like a good wing man, like this is Pete Mitchell and Mother Goose and top Gun, like I am here there for you at any given time, not only on the air, but at the middle of

the night. I supply you with entertaining and theatrical stories that make you laugh a little bit during a You have a special kind of Michigas as my grandfather. You are so oblivious, you know, you have missed a bunch of podcast I've missed like six that's a lot. That's not a lot. That is a ton. Okay, that is a ton. And you're so oblivious, You're unaware. The Pikes has been fine. No one hasn't. If I'm getting directly it sucks on this, then yeah, no, I disagree. Who

do you want to rip that? We've had great people that have come in here and done the podcast. What are their names? Well, last week we had bow of the show that was in here and did an amazing job, and he talked about you want to Yes, Yes, he was great. He didn't talk too much, he didn't try to steal the show at all. He was he was one with Kevin the Great, Kevin O'Connell. Kevin, here's a solid job. He's the guy that just left the company two days ago. Okay, continue, well, that's fine. He probably

got a better job for the Curse of the Benbino. Continue, that was the curse of the Bambino at all. He worked on your show and then he quit. He laughed. Well, because now because of that, it's the catapult. He's not probably got a better job. Good for him. The other Mallard's success story, Mallard tree booming. Maybe he could go right for a local newspaper and playgiarize some articles and then get fired. Wow, savage monster, you're a savage monster. Yeah, alright, anyway, listen,

the point of this is guesstcon. The show goes on the Jubilasian the celebration. It's always a laza lallapalooza. I think it's the of the word I was looking for there, but it's it's always fun, even when you're not here. So, but the reason, get back to the point please. Alright, So we're talking about this this week being special. Why is this a stressful time? Because there is so much on the line. There was so much on the line. You win a Benny Award and your life changes in

amazing ways. It does. You get immense clout in the little village that is the Ben Mallory Show of the Mallard Militia, in our little ecosystem, a little world here. It's a big deal. This is a big deal. You

might say, Oh, who cares, It's just a dopey overnight show. No, one's listening anyway, and you might be right about that, but we have our own little cult and for the nocturnal creatures right to get together there and all the carnivores and the primitive beings that listen overnight, that are up all night with us. Ah, this is huge, This is very important. It's essential that you are celebrated and honored with the Banny Award. And now the the real

reason for the anxiety, though, is emotion. Emotion takes over. The better story is in the losing locker room, and it's just a couple of layers this. It's the people that don't get nominated. I get nasty emails. I've been listening to you for X number of years and your

trow used to be good. But I cannot believe I sent you seven thousand three text messengers Twitter and you did not put me on the list of a nomene Always like that, And then I also like the nominees who don't win and then have bitterness and resentment towards the show as well. And I'm not getting the Benny's.

We've done this for several years now, and some people hold such a grudge that we have lost some of our higher ranking members of the mall unlesha pe once because of displeasure for not winning an award which does no financial no monetary value. You don't get a trophy. And you know every everyone, every year there's at least one or two unhinged whack jobs, the chowter heads that

come out here. But I say to each their own guests, alright, So I got a question and a comment for this first offic The comment is this is it's probably Coop's idea, but I thought it was a great job that you guys have nominated a renamed it Genie and Medford Caller of the Year. Well we did that several years ago. Genie passed away. Thanks for paying attention there. You're a

big fan of the show. But the Genie and Medford Memorial Caller of the Year awards the greatest caller in the history of sports talk radio, the Overnight, the great Genie and Medford loved her, loved I thought she was fake for the first five years she called the show and says this, No one could be this crazy, but she was. That's good. Now. The question is is do you have anybody that you would consider in the running

for a Leonardo DiCaprio kind of a war. Like. What I mean by that is it took DiCaprio year years and years and years to finally win an Oscar. Yeah, he was nominated sometimes other times he wasn't and just never want anything despite having good work. And then he finally had that happened. I think it was with The

Revenant a couple of years ago. So do you have anyone on your big board that you say, keep an eye on him or or her because they've been in contention a few times and just have never gotten over the hump. Oh yeah, there's there's several members of the Malle militia that are underappreciated, under rated, undervalued, however underword you want to use. And uh, and I don't want

to influence the voting because the voting is Saturday. There's still time to vote and uh, you're laughing at me, but but seriously, because this is the final push here and now it's a little harder to vote now because I had to move some tweets around and you gotta check my timeline on there. You might have to scroll down a little bit. Maybe I'll repin that. I'm not sure how we're gonna do that. But the the voting is on. There's a way you can vote on Google.

One vote per customer. There's a link. It's on the Facebook page. You're gonna have to scroll down a little bit, but please vote if you haven't voted yet. Some of these categories are literally, I'm not exaggerary, literally and figuratively being decided by like ten votes or less. It's insane. Now, for the sake, for the sake of transparency, will you let everybody that's voting on this know that when the voting starts, it will not stop at four o'clock in

the morning and then restart any hours. Letter Well, well, let me put us away, gast Scott. We will have on on this edition of the podcast, the Saturday edition of the Fifth Hour podcast. Well full transparency. We're gonna wait actually to announce the real winners. We're gonna give out the awards on Sunday night, but we're gonna wait a couple of weeks there to all the absentee ballots come in, and then we're gonna count the absentee ballance,

which I didn't even know it's possible on Internet. Pull We're gonna wait for that. You never know, Genie might actually vote then concern the dead vote. Now, just give me a heads up as we're doing this and we obviously the podcast is uh is recorded in a previous day and Saturday, but to give me an idea of where we're at now. One of the categories Best Show Marketing. This is a category that includes shell Shock really being the driving force the guiding light for the mallarw maneuver

drink at a bar in Colorado. Thank you for that moving man. Matt came up with the Mallard the mobile Mallar Militia billboard on the back of his his big rig driving around the highways and byways of America. Andrea the sports astrologist Virgo and service on Twitter. She promoted the show when they did a feature on her on CBS Sunday Morning, gave us a shout out, and then Fats in Philadelphia lit himself on fire screaming Ben Maller during the NFL Draft, which was a great way to

market the show since he and die so Um. Those are all all the the nominees in this category, but the top two are literally the separation point between number one and number two in this category is seventeen votes. Seventeen votes is the separation very close, best lame joke Writer of the Year, very very close as well, splitting hairs here. Uh. In fact, this one, there are as we're doing this, five votes separate first place from second place.

Five And we keep in mind hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people have voted, and five votes separate this category. That is this insanity, UM and some of the other categories that are extremely extremely close. UM. Female Caller of the Year, the ladies stepping up the game. Are we gonna have to change that just a genderal, gender neutral call of the Year in the future, I hope,

but maybe you maybe you dumb it. As as title nine Color of the Year, about title nine Color of the Year. Now we've had a big sea change in this category and the favorite is still in the lead, but number one to number two as we're doing this two votes. This is insanity and the person that was in number one is now fourteen votes behind number one. So it's all it's like a horse race, neck and neck. It's gonna be a photo finish in many of these categories.

It's so exciting, And we also have the social media brackets which are online, and the final bracket is up. But we had sixteen finalists, the Sweet sixteen, and we're pairing that down. We also had the category for the Top Power Hour from from which you of course mocked and ridiculed, and radio it was tremendous. Radio was wonderful.

We learned about people, learned about their lives and the very relatable something I know west of the four oh five, you guys, you guys can't even have your streets safe enough for the Great Tiger Woods to drive through. So you guys got your issues over there west of the four or five. Just want to point that out. Maybe, Yeah, all right, So now as far as the people getting upset again, I just want to circle back to that, as the White House Press Secretary would say, So you

you really don't need to go start raving mad. P s A. You don't have to go start raving mad because you didn't win a dope awards. You you know, on the on the bennings. It'd be cool if you did. Not everyone's gonna win. Obviously, it's not like you actually win a trophy. I must stress this. You don't win anything you get, but you do get golden tickets, which are only good. It's like Mickey Mouse dollars. They're only good at Disneyland. It's virtual street Craig, you get some

of that. But the callers, I will say the callers were more important than ever in our shows. Much different than the other shows in that, you know the other shows, they most of them have gone away from taking calls and having listener contributions. And some of these shows, I'll let you in a little secret, some of these shows, as Taboo to says, they actually taped their show. They even they're not even there to take calls because they're,

you know whatever, they're doing their thing. We're doing it live and we do obviously have a lot of interaction. That's one of the things that makes the show different and unique. And it was sports shutting down. Uh, you the listener were more important. We had no actual sporting events for over a hundred days, almost a hundred and fifty days to talk about in so we thank you now. Well, well we ever get the chance since we since we introduced Benny versus a Penny in online, would you ever

consider doing the Benny's on YouTube? Um? Yeah, I I would, but it's it's part of the radio. So it's like for the radio shop. So I feel like it should be in that world. It should be in that world, because as much as I try to get people to listen to this podcast and to the other things that we do, there's there's a certain percentage of people that just our only radio listeners. And as much as I have tried, and usually it's people over a certain age

all stereotype that the radio. I love radio, but I am able to listen to podcasting and streaming and whatnot. But some people aren't um and they're only able to listen to the radio. So I don't want to eliminate those people who are the backbone and the of the show. So we have these side clops. What is these cideclops all about here, guests? So it's it's that that cloud that that we have kind of crafted and created, that was upon us in September when we first launched to

Fit Down with Ben Maller. It's taken us to the the highs, the highs of you being disbanded from rams and Seahawks games, to the loads of loads with my car being hit and windows being bashed out. I was I was not around last week obviously, and I know that was felt by you not being on the podcast for a couple of days, and wonderful. I I thought, you know, I had some issues. I needed to go

visit an optometrist. And you know, for a month, maybe like three weeks, I had dryness at least I felt like I had dried us in one of my eyes and I was scratching it and rubbing it so much. I thought maybe it was an eyelash, maybe it was just something from the morning time. Couldn't get anything out, and I I tried remedy it by putting a warm cloth in my eye eye drops and nothing worked. I even took the drops that I used from my ear

since they were eye drops, and still nothing worked. So I went to an optometrist and visit with the autometrist and she's like, I'm gonna run you through an entire evaluation since it's been a few years since you've had an exam. So I said, all right, final, if you take a few minutes, no, no worries. Then I went through a seventy five minute I evaluation and I shoo you not. It was like a full blown exercise routine. I was gassed. I was so tired, like just my

eyes and my head from the functioning. And she said two things. She said, Hey, do you have double vision? And I said no, Why And she says, because some of these baseline tests that I put you through, it looks like you have double vision. But your eyes reset so fast because your eye muscles are fast, but your eye alignment is unbalanced, so you're gonna be susceptible to that as you age. And I was like, fuck, this

is another thing Ben hasn't told me about. So when I don't have double vision, this one thing that's not fucked up. Anything else is fucked up, but that's not one thing that's messed up with me. So the creme de la creme was at the end. She went through the entire evaluation, then started looking at my eyes to see if anything was in it. And this made me upset, like, I don't know, have you have you ever been outside

the park catastrophe? Have you ever had a moment in your life where your body went into a fight or flight moment that you can remember? And it was really intense. Uh, you know, off the top of my head, I'm trying to. I've been to some accidents where you kind of like your but full. I don't think I've ever fully gone into that mode, so okay, I've only been into it twice,

and oddly enough, it was. One of the first times was when I was fasting to start and I had to do a physical and I had six vials of blood drawn, and for some reason, I went into a fighter flight. Because I was having the blood drawn, I was looking at it and I felt like I was nauseated.

I feel like throwing up, I felt like just sweating. Well, when she was evaluating my eyes and then looking in to see if I had anything in them, she put this blue light into my eye and then she flipped my eyelid, and for some reasons terrible, but then it was so benign. All of a sudden, I started because I was fatigued already. I started getting this massive head ache, and then she pulled away and ben it looked like someone dumped a gallon of water on me. I started

breaking out in this massive sweat. I felt nauseated and my adrenaline was going, blood was pumping, and I was fast in that same day, but I just felt fucking dead. And she said, are you all right? And I was like, I got no clue. I feel like I'm in this like fight or flight situation. It was like that for fifteen minutes and then she said after we were done, she's like, we need to still, we need to redo this.

So after it was over with, we did both eyes and she says, you have a submittrical, asymmetrical elliptical nerve heads and these nerve heads are at the back of your eyes and they basically feed everything from her eye neurologically to your brain. And they're asymmetrical. So she says, when they're asymmetrical for human beings, you're susceptible or you can be down the road for glycoma. So I was like,

wait a minute. All the way so she asked me, She's like, does anyone in your family have like coma anthem that Natris said no and uh And she says, well, and then that's you've had that then since birth it's genetic or you've had it just because of birth. So is there something they can do now that they know this that they can manage it? Yeah, Okay, that's good,

and so this is a good thing. It's a horror story, but it's a good kind of So I gotta go to an opthalmologist now and been thousands of dollars probably it's so I need to have a baseline test to see exactly where those nerve heads are and then see how enlarge they become or if they if they don't at all. Because I asked her that, I said, hey, is this something that can reverse? Is it something I can prevent? And she says no, but we had to monitor it. So you have to be aware of this

as you age. When you hit five, when you hit fifty, you know, and beyond that. So two things that really just so you got the vision. My hearing, I know is I'm gonna, you know, my old man to hearing it. But I know I'm gonna need a hearing it guaranteed by a certain point here. And the hearing I have headphones. I wear headphones for thirty hours a week here it turned all the way up. That's gonna be my my

issue there. But as far as the flight or fight or flight thing, I think the closest I've had to that is flop sweat when I did really bad monologue and I just was drowning on the flop sweat, and I was just very uncomfortable. And that would be as close. I've done that many times. Yea, boy, the first show I ever did in radio, Oh my god, did I have stage fright? I was fine. I prepared for the monologue. Was like a Saturday morning. I prepared for the monologue.

This is my big break. I was gonna host a show and it was in l A and it was a big deal. And so I I prepared for the monologue and I just nailed the monologue. It was a perfect ten. And I was all excited. I was all proud of myself. And then I had no material prepared for the rest of the show. I had nothing. I know, I no direction, no idea what I wanted to talk about, what I was gonna do. And then of course no one called. So I'm just drowning. I was just Remember

my program director had come into. Bob Bennett was the guy's name. He came in to to congratulate me. Boy, you really did a great job. Man, you were wonderful. Man, you really just did a wonderful job. We're so proud of you. And then then he came back later in a slightly different tone, I had been blindsighted. Oh man,

yeah I was. I was so disappointed obviously with my eyes, but the fact that I went into a fight or flight situation with just the flipping of an eyelid and well your eyes, you you're were you never you messed with the eyes. You met the brains right behind that. You're you're screwed. Yeah, that was a little nervous. So that's that's where I'm att This is uh, it all goes downhill. I apparently once you hit the big four. Oh,

I wouldn't know that. I'm still thirty. So we have the nickname claim and then we'll get the tales of West of the Four. Oh if I have to push back pop quiz to the Sunday podcast. All right, so the nickname claim. Big week on the show for nicknames. Now we added not one, but two and this is a podcast exclusive. Two new officially sanctioned nicknames for who for me? All right? These were given by listeners. Now

they both passed the test. They are now kosher, big shot out the Tree in Vegas, Big tip of the headphones Here Tree in Vegas submitted one. This was on the air because of my gambling habit money line Mallard money line Mallard. That is nickname number forty seven, So thank you Tree in Vegas on Twitter RP one buddy big Rig Robs submitted the nickname number forty eight, and I am now known as the Shaman of schaden Freuda, the Shaman of schaden Freud. So thank you to big

Rig rob Eyes. You know, I enjoyed taking joy out of other people's misery and sports. So I now have more official nicknames than there are presidents that have. You know, they've been forty six presidents. I have forty eight nicknames. One point up. Well, I I do appreciate the fact that you were labeled money line Mallards since a couple of weeks ago you were corrected by a few people with art dispute between what money line odds are and

what they are not. And that's good. And obviously he wasn't paying attention to Benny versus the penny in because you would not acknowledge that if it was the case, since you finished behind the penny to close out, then, in fairness and truth and broadcasting, if we had finished the year, and I might fortunately took a couple of weeks off there because you don't want to work at the end of the year, and then the situation with my family, so I couldn't do the playoffs, but I

would have dominated the postseason. I'll point that out. I just want to point that out. Well, that's good. So now you've you mentioned the nicknames. But what is the criteria? What is the smell test? Well, you know, each nickname is judged on the rhythmic nature of it, the comedic nature of it. Is it gonna stand the test of time? Can't be two time specific? Uh? And so there's there's several criteria that go into it, and these are both passed.

The test, the eyeball test, the smell test, the hearing test, money Line Mallard and the Shaman of Schadenfreud. New nicknames, very exciting. Now we have Tales of the West of the four or five quickly guess guy, Tales of West of the Four. I've I've been sitting in it frequently and I was invited by somebody on the apparatus. But for iPhone users that are out there, um, if you have access or if you'd like to, you can join

and download an app called Clubhouse. It is an application which is audio only but it's set up like the old school days of ale well when they'd have those chat rooms where you could just meet people on there and type of way. Well this thing, well, no, but

you can if you wanted to. But there's different rooms in there for different kind of categories and so I've invited you on there, but I thought it might be appropriate to invite people and to set something up like one of these days and maybe do something once a week We're invite members of the Mallam Militia into a private room where we can grab ass and talk and chat and ask questions and do ship like that for

fifty sixty minutes. Uh. It's a good platform, but it's an opportunity for people to network, people to connect and obviously just shoot the breeze about anything that's out there. It's it's fascinating stuff Like I know Mark Cuban has been on there a few times. Elon Musk has been

on there as well. Um, you get different celebrities, different personalities, and uh, I think it's fascinating that it's an application where it does away from the nuances of trying to network directly through emails and through company portals and ship like that you can actually reach out to these people one on one, and it's fascinating. I actually think it's right up there, and I think it would it's the

equivalent of Facebook, better than Instagram. It's the audio. It's only audio, yes, still, so there's no video element to it. It's the only audio. So how do you how does how do people not start talking over each other? So there's there's moderators in each room, and in order to speak, there's an icon that allows you to designate someone to raise their hand. If they want to raise their hand and talk, they can, and if not, they don't talk at all. So you have moderators, you have speakers, and

then you have an audience. Um, the cool thing is is how you connect to people. As you can list a profile like you would for Twitter or Instagram, and you can link your Twitter account and your Instagram accounts that way. So if you want to speak to someone directly, you connect with them on Instagram and then you can send them direct messages. That's happened to me a lot on there. So you can't DM anybody on clubhouse, but you can do it through other applications. So I would

recommend I recommend to do that. I think it'd be pretty fun and I think it would be Uh, do you have like an investment in this or something? It sounds like you have a financial stake. No, But I do think that we can make get a financial situation if we pick up sponsors and we do things like that. People do it all the time where they have a a segment or something like that that's sponsored by a certain advertiser and then you plug them for a little while.

So I'll investigate. I'll investigate, and I will check that out. But I believe we have to get out of here. Guess that's it's that time, right what we gonna say goodbye until we meet again. Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Meller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the i Heart Radio app.