The Fifth Hour: Live on Tape, Geno Smith Reaction!

If not, he won't be with us at all. But I think he'll be with us on the mail Bag on Sunday, And so we wanted to on this Saturday take time away. Now. Normally we don't talk sports. Normally we don't talk much sports on the weekend Fifth Hour podcast, but The cool thing about this is that when something happens that is worthy of our attention, we are able

to break format and go right into it. And so this being the Saturday edition, the rare and appropriate, rare and appropriate bonus sporty coverage on the Fifth Hour, the trade that rocked the NFL. We'll get to that. We also have the phrase of the week, and who knows what else will pop up here on the Fifth Hour podcast, but we'll begin with this an emergency mal monologue, emergency malar monologue, and we were not planning on doing this, but the events changed on Friday, so we had an

unexpected trade in the NFL. I assume you know by now you heard about it, but maybe not. The Raiders and the Seahawks said, hey, you know what we need to do. Let's make a deal. And so they made a deal in Las Vegas acquired quarterback Geno Smith, yes that guy, Geno Smith from the Seattle Seahawks, in exchange for a twenty twenty five third round draft pick. So that's it pretty simple. The Raiders get the player, the Seattle football team gets a lottery ticket, and that is

the trade. So let us discuss the question for the esteem panel which you are a part of. What does the malor report card read? The malor report card read for this particular deal. All right, So we've got cosplay, waste management and sopranos, and we will combine all of these things together and we are going to make a special meal here on a Saturday, the Gabba ghool. We're gonna make the Gabba goool, all right, So num Burdwan, I said, numb burw Yeah, I love the unexpected trade.

Let me start with that. I'll get to the mall of report card here in a second. But I love the unexpected trade that these high fullutint plug me in NFL insiders information men that are supposed to have all the answers, not always. They're caught flat footed here. They had no clue they were snapping. Nobody had been whispering that Geno Smith would be traded. In fact, the opposite was coming out of Seattle. The Dodo Birds were talking about extending Gino Smith. They had had meetings with Gino

about an extension. So this came out of left field. This came out of thin air, which makes it all the more fun to break down here on an emergency Malord monologue. So as for the report card, and remember, we are impartial, we are fair, and we are balanced. We are measured with our commentary. So I want to be fair here the Raiders on the Malor report card. That could be a shock jock and give some kind of ridiculous score. But I'm not gonna do that. I'm

gonna I'm not gonna go fugayzy on you. The Malor report card, I jotted down on my note my note app here on my phone, which I'm looking at right now. I dotted jotted down an F y as in fair, as in foul, as in all of that. My god, oh my, oh no, hell, Bill Miller, I mean, come on now. So I went F Now, Seattle they're the team that traded the player. They got a promisory note in return a third round draft pick. So I gave

the Seahawks the D. I rotate nuts. They got the D and the Raiders got the F. So what in the world are we doing here? Welcome to bizarre world. Remember about a week ago, the Raiders were all hot and bothered. They thought they had their quarterback, Matthew Stafford. They were gonna get Matthew Stafford from the Rams. You can ram it all day, you can ram it all night. And then Matthew Stafford, after meeting with Tom Brady at a clandestine location somewhere in Montana, Stafford said, I'm good,

I'm going back to the Rams. It is interesting to note that after that all went down, a number of these so called insiders. Oh I knew all along. Oh he was never going to leave the Rams. Yeah, okay, yeah, sure. But the Raiders thought they had a shot at Matthew Stafford. They didn't get him. Then there was Aaron Rodgers and his name popped up, but instead the Raiders end up with Gino Smith, which is hilarious. It is I mean, at some point we need to do a wellness check

on the Raider fan base. Here. It is the mass Raid ball relocating to a Vegas theater, is what it is. I mean, this is called like it is. Geno Smith, for several years now has been doing cosplay. He is impersonating a QB One. It's like somebody going to comic Con dressed up as Spider Man. You're not really Spider Man, You're just dressed up as Spider Man. And that's Gino Smith now if you want to tell me that Gino Smith is a high end backup that you can play

for a couple of games and maybe you'll be fine. Okay, I can even agree with you on that. But if he's your starting quarterback, you're porked. And if you're trading for Gino Smith, if this is your move here, that you're going out and you're trading assets to get him, what does that say about you? Holy Canoley, I mean, let's call a spade a spade here. Wow. All right, So that's where we are. Now, how should Raider fans feel? Should they feel encouraged or discouraged by this trade for Genosmith?

So I think I've laid it all out for you, but just to pile on it's a dog pile. I would say that the Raider fan should not feel encouraged or discouraged. The emotion would be emasculation because this is an emasculating, demoralizing, and humiliating moment. You're like, well, Tom Brady's the guy. Now he's running the show, and you get an f report card on the malor report card making this trade. Tom Brady's got a piece of the pile. We keep hearing how he's he's in. You know, he

owns a little bit of the Raiders ten percent. Mark Davis the owner who won the genetic lottery to get controlled of the Raiders. So Mark Davis is the controlling owner and Tom Brady owns a little bit of it, but he's making football decisions. And Mark Davis could have simply hired some twelfth man fanboy in the Pacific Northwest and said, all right, I want you to run the team. You're a Seahawks fan, but I want you to run

the Raiders. And that's what they've done. The Raiders have now recreated the twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three Seattle Seahawks. Let me repeat that for those of you in the back of the room that aren't paying attention. It's early here on a Saturday, as we're doing this in real time, the Tom Brady front office has recreated the twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three Seattle Seahawks. That is a bold strategy, Cotton. The Raiders have one

weapon on offense at this point. Brock byers now keeping my Gino Smith playing in Seattle, a winning culture, good defensive players, a coaching staff, I know, Pete Carroll's there, but he hasn't established himself with the Raiders. But he had built something up in Seattle. They had a winning culture, and they had DK Metcalf and a bunch of other playmakers, and Gino Smith was nothing more than blah. So now he's going to a team that doesn't have all of

those things, has one player in Brock Bowers. And here we are, Oh my god, what are you doing? Like seriously? All right now, page two as we flip the page here on this edition of the Fifth Hour with me Ben malor Danny G'll rejoin us tomorrow, yes, sir, and I'll share with you the real reason Ben hates Gino

so much on Sunday's podcast. So we turned to page two and the question on page two, is there anything that we can take away from the timing of the Geno Smith trade between the Raiders and the Seattle Seahawks. And my answer, I'm nodding my head. Yes, you can't see me, but I'm nodding my head. Yes, thousand percent. Right. This is a PGA tour event, is what it is.

It's a PGA Tour event. It is the Waste Management Open or go as we like to say, even in the plugged in world of social media and the interweb and all that this is a takeout the trash Day Blue Ribbon special. Right, you release bad news on a Friday afternoon, Friday evening in an attempt to soften the scrutiny and people. It is proven on the weekends, you don't pay as much attention. You've got plans on Friday and Saturday, and Sunday's a wind down day to wind

back up for the week. And so if you do something that isn't very popular, if you make a move like this and it cuts both ways, it's not just one side, it cuts both ways. So if you make a move like this and you're trying to avoid as much negativity as you can, you announce it on a Friday. You don't announce it on a Monday or Tuesday or Wednesday. You do it on Friday, and you do it, as we've laid out, for obvious reasons. Now the reason it's

bad for both sides. For the Seahawks, they are confirming what we all knew that Geno Smith was a bust, that this guy was a failure. It didn't work out in Seattle. They have essentially wasted several seasons of your fandom if you're in the game there, if you're a Seahawks fan, and they have been in a holding pattern, They've been treading water there in Seattle for the last three years. And it validates my long standing take. I know Nosterdinas doesn't like this. I think JJ in Renton,

he's on my team crying. Craig also seems to be okay. But that Noster Denis, he was so far up Gino Smith took us. He could not see the sun. I mean, he's right up there. But validates my long standing criticism that Gino Smith has full Jabbroni status as the quarterback in Seattle, and he is not only a quarterback, he is a Schmendrick. And for the Raiders, as we have also spelled out for you, but we'll spell it out again,

you downplay this trade for obvious reasons. You have just acquired a thirty four year old quarterback who is a jag, not a Jacksonville Jag. He's just a guy, and you're going to then apparently pay him if when I'm hearing his accurate, the Raiders are going to give Geno Smith a new contract. So you traded a third round pick. Who cares about that? But you got a guy who's thirty four, so he's passed his athletic prime, not that he was ever good, and you're going to pay him

more money. And so again Tom Brady has recreated the twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three Seahawks of Pete Carroll and Gino Smith. They were together two years in Seattle. Those cats combined had an eighteen and sixteen regular season and somewhere Al Davis is spinning around in a graveyard near you. Eighteen and sixteen, the record a five to twenty nine winning percentage together, and again that was with the Seahawks that had playmakers around. Gino Smith, had some

names on defense, and there was a winning environment. None of those things exist in Las Vegas. And now they compete in an AFC Division AMC West that has the Mahomes Reid dynasty in Cana City, the Jim Harbaugh Chargers, and the Sean Payton Broncos. And so you're you're in that mix, which is good afternoon, good evening, and good night, if you know what I'm saying. Now, final thought from the Seattle side of things I mentioned on the Mallor

report card. The Seahawks got a C on the Mallor report card because they have a The word I will use is flim plan at best. That's being kind. They have a flimsy plan in Seattle. You're trading away Geno Smith, which again I think that's a positive. You're finally admitting that we've got a problem here, and that's the first step, but doesn't mean you're on your way to fix anything. But you're getting rid of Geno Smith, so you're at least gonna have somebody new at the quarterback position, some

younger blood. Okay, so Geno Smith goes for the ninety second pick. That's what we're hearing here, the ninety second pick of the draft, which is nothing that gets you all turned on. You know, you don't feel a little tingled. You get the ninety second pick in the draft. Who knows what that will be? Likely nothing, But then you find out the whispers on who Seattle's going after. Now, when I first saw this trade pop up on my phone, I said, okay, well maybe that's where Aaron Rodgers will

end up. He'll go to the Pacific Northwest. They don't have anybody else there, so he'll go, hey, hang out and we'll see how that goes. And that'll be good for talk radio. It'll be fun to have Aaron Rodgers in Seattle. Well not so fast. So then the name that keeps popping up is a guy named Sam. Not Iowa Sam, That would be Sam Donald. The plot thickens. Yeah, yeah, yes, that's the same Sam Donald. I know, I understand your reaction. I had the same reaction. I I know it's rather shocking.

It's rather shocking. All right, So how how do you process the Seahawks going after Sam Donald? So as they they said on the iconic show The Sopranos back in the day, marown Like if I was a pirate, I would say, shiver me timbers, is what I would say. This is like trading in a bag of manure. You're like, I've had the manure for while, I don't need them newer anymore. I'm gonna go down. I'm gonna trade in the bag of manure and I'm gonna go buy a

bag of fertilizer. I think the fertilizer will do better than the manure. I don't need the manure anymore. I'm gonna get rid of the manure. I'm gonna say, buy the manure, and then I'm gonna bring in a bag of fertilizer, and that is going to change my life in amazing ways. Sam Donald is a younger version of Suck. He's I believe, twenty seven. But that doesn't matter. It is the fact that he has an underlying pre existing condition here. And you know what that condition is. Are

you aware of the condition that Sam Donald has. My right hand was getting a workout that is correct. Yes, he has a glitch. I don't even know if that's strong enough. It was a cataclysmic debacle. At the end of his run in Minnesota, he was fine, he was fine, he was fine, and then it was not a telethon, It was a gagathon. He suffered from a panic attack as he gagged at the end, death by asphyxiation. There for a one Sam Donald, who did all of the

things you can't do. It was an unmitigated disaster for the Vikings, who got down to the very last game of the year against the Lions in the regular season and then football Armageddon. It wasn't just a snaff woo. It was uncomfortable. It was awkward. It was purgatory. The Boogeyman was knocking on the door. It was one of those things that go bump it he bumpity bump in the night. Sam Donald was not just a sloppy Joe. He was stuck in a maze, could not get himself out.

He had anxiety, and that was what we expected. We expected that to happen, and it happened even worse than we thought it was going to happen. The wobbling, the gyrations of grimacing from agony and all that. You have to wonder what kind of LSD they're enjoying in the Seattle Seahawks' front office there, if this is really the move. No, I don't want to kill them too much because they haven't added Sam Darnald. But if you look at the map from thirty thousand feet in the sky, the jigsaw

puzzle is starting to fill out. Stafford stays with the Rams, the Raiders trade for a Hindenburg like quarterback and Geno Smith thinking somehow they're going to be able to not

get manhandled, and by the rest of the division. Seattle now is on a rampage to get Sam Darneld, which would mean Aaron Rodgers ends up going to the team that plays with the Giants at this point, and then you've got who's next the next wave of quarterbacks as Arizona finds somebody that is dumb enough to take alligator arms Murray who is easy to disarm because he's got alligator arms, and eventually as the season goes on, he falls apart in the second half. That happens pretty much

all the time. And then you've got the Kirk Cousins thing. Does he end up in Cleveland? So things are starting to settle into place as we see teams. If you're unprepared here, you're screwed. You're screwed if you're unprepared. But there's a lot of moving around going on as the new league gear in the NFL going to begin soon enough. But that that was quite the day, Quite the day. Back on Friday, as the Raiders Tom Brady be careful what you wish for? They go out. Is he gonna

blame Brady? Does he get criticism because this seems like he's not doing a good job, being unfair to Tom Brady. That hiring Tom Brady to bring in the Seattle Seahawks of twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three is not what you were expecting that that should be for voting, But it's not vermoting. It went on, he did it, and because he's Tom Brady, it's like authorized and it's permissible to do that. And you're like, well, I don't think it should be. I mean, like come on, yeah,

just again, I can't stress it up. Gino Smith was not very good when he had two or three really good playmakers. He now goes to a Raiders team, barring some kind of dramatic offseason improvement, a Raiders team that has less than Seattle. They have less to work with than the team he was at. Now. The other factor here, if Seattle is able to get the right quarterback, which would not be Sam Donald, would not be Sam Donald,

is there a path to keep Dk Metcalf. Now, my argument, I did a monologue about this during the week on the Overnight Show, is that the reason Dk Metcalf want it out, we want money is always at the top. But then behind money, he realized that he was not getting the ball enough in Seattle. He didn't like the environment,

didn't think they were gonna be able to win in Seattle. Well, now that DK Metcalf doesn't have to play with Gino Smith anymore, who he must think is absolutely horrible, and they get somebody else in there, does that change things for DK Metcalf? Does he now say, all right, well, maybe I'll stay in Seattle. They're gonna pay me. Old John McKay quote. When you talk about what's going on with the Raiders and the Seahawks, you do a lot of praying, but most of the time the answers no right.

And the Seahawks, it's the term that has been used a lot well is rebuild, But that's really just code. That's lip service for we're gonna suck, right, and we're not in it to win it and all that. And football is one of those sports. I know, no Stredina doesn't understand this and some of the other dopes, but football is one of those sports where even if you

have a remote possibility, you go for it. You go for it, and you never want to be that team that just settles in to the little village called Suckville. You just don't want to embrace the suck. You can't do it, and it's a shame. You got to have that perseverance to go out there and compete, and even when things aren't looking great, luck be a lady here.

Maybe you'll run into some kind of fluky thing and some good stuff will happen to you, even though you don't have a great quarterback or this, that or the other thing. But I'm sure we'll have plenty of time to talk about that more as the off season rolls on. But I wanted to make sure to do that. And it's one of the great things that we have here on the Fifth Hour a pod is that we are able to when we feel like it, we can just

do sporting. We can be a sporty pod. And I didn't do another rant was some of years a I got from Cleveland, Well, you're gonna do a rant this weekend on the podcast. But that story with Miles Garrett was like, no, probably not. I mean I saw it. I can only do one Mallard monologue per Fifth Hour. We've already met our quota on this edition. But I am aware that the Browns owner Jimmy Haslam declined the request to meet with Miles Garrett as he asked for

a trade. And again, I'm not doing a full monologue. I'm just a couple of thoughts on that. For Steve who's in Ohio and Steve O in Ohio. All I would say is there's there's one of two scenarios in play with Jimmy Haslam and his decision to not meet with Miles Garrett. It is either a Haslam is a softy and he knows that if they have a face to face meeting, Miles Garrett can sweet talk him, use that Svengali effect, and then all of a sudden, Jimmy as them will pay him more money and they'll patch

things up. It's either that Haslam's a softy, or Haslam it's the other extreme that he wants. He wants Garrett gone. He don't want to pay him, and he doesn't want to meet with him, doesn't want to do it. Wants other people and a lot of rich guys are cowards who wants somebody else to be the go beatryt between the intermediary and set all that up and not. He doesn't want to have to be the one that's the bad guy. Doesn't want to be the bad guy in all that all right, time now, time now, in the

fifth hour, that's enough of that sporty stuff. Way too much of that. Let's get to the phrase of the week. That's right, the phrase of the week. I've always appropriate this week in honor of the trade of Geno Smith, which was just for a third round pick, a three year starting quarterback only worth a third round pick, as the Raiders traded a third round pick to Seattle for Gino Smith. So let's go back in the hot top time machine. You probably don't remember this. It goes back

man almost forty years. One of the great quotes in NFL history about a trade, about a trade, and it was from a head coach in the NFL who said, trade him for a six pack. It doesn't even have to be cold. Close phrase, that is the phrase of the week. That's right, trade him for a six pack. It doesn't even have to be cold. Now, that phrase originated with one of the great characters in the NFL many many generations ago, but a guy named Buddy Ryan.

Buddy Ryan was the defensive guru of the Chicago Bears the last time they won the Super Bowl in the nineteen eighty five season or Championship after the eighty four season, and Buddy Ryan would go on become a head football coach in Philadelphia, and he did not like to bite his tongue. He liked to let it rip. And so Buddy Ryan in nineteen eighty six. So we're going back

a minute, but Buddy Ryan is in training camp. He's the head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles, and he did not seem to light one of his running backs very much. They had a running back named Ernest Jackson on the nineteen eighty six Philadelphia Eagles, and he was not a coach's favorite. Buddy didn't something about him. I don't know what it was. I even go back and look at the archives. But Buddy was not a fan of Ernest Jackson, and so he said, hey, trade him for a six pack.

It doesn't even have to be cool. Now. Jackson played the season with the Pittsburgh Steelers. He went to the Pro Bowl. That was back when the Pro Bowl meant something, not now where the Pro Bowl is water balloon toss and tic tac toe and pinned the tail on the donk. Back then, it actually was an all star game, the Pro Bowl, and was an honor to be there. Even to this day though it's all pro status is what matters more. But anyway, so Ernest Jackson played one more

season with the Pittsburgh Steelers. The Buddy Ryan quote, trade him for a six pack, it doesn't even have to be cold, is one of his most memorable phrases. I would argue that Buddy Ryan had more memorable phrases as head coach than he did actual success on the field. Some of the other classics from from Buddy Ryan. Remember he had said quarterbacks are overpaid, overrated, pompous bastards and

must be punished. That was a Buddy Ryan quote. He was the defensive guru, of course for the Bears and whatnot, and he hated quarterbacks. Couldn't stand him, could not stand him. He's also been credited I'm not sure if he's the first one to say this about he said one of the the players on the on the Eagles would be selling insurance in two years. That's what he say said, Which is you say that now? Oh my god, I can't believe he said that. Oh my god, you can't

say that. You are such a mean person. What is wrong with you? And that whole deal. Some of the old school coaches, Yeah, it's it's wonderful, wonderful, wonderful. Maybe once in a while, we get a great, great SoundBite like Mike Gundy at Oklahoma State few years back when he he said, I'm a man, I'm forty right, you know, you go after me and all that stuff. That was a funny one. It's sporadic, but the old school guys tremendous, absolutely tremendous. All Right, we'll get out on that, have

a wonderful rest of your Saturday. We'll have the mail bag. Hopefully Danny g will join us on the Sunday mail Bag, and I get his thoughts too, because he's mister Raider. We'll get his thoughts on the big trade tomorrow. But until then, we'll chat with you down the line and have a wonderful rest of your Saturday. Later, Skater, he's a winner. Bo Folation