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The Fifth Hour: J-Scoop, Fighting for Ukraine

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Ben Maller & Danny G. kick off your Friday with an interview! J-Scoop is a proud former Marine and dedicated member of the Maller Militia. As a super fan of the show, he's traveled around the United States to chat with some of the legendary callers on the show. Recently he traveled from Northern California to the Ukraine to help out the cause in the battle against Russia. J-Scoop walks us through his journey to Ukraine, what life is like, his day-to-day activities and why you can't use a smart phone in a battle field. 

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Come boom. If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants of the old Republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He treats crackheads in the ghetto gutter the same as the rich pill poppers in the penthouse. Wow. The clearing House of Hot takes break free for something special. The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller starts right now in the air everywhere. Welcome into the podcast dojo as we are back at it, a brand new weekend of podcast ready

to go. We pop the podcast bubble as it is the fifth Hour. We thank you for subscribing, for downloading the podcast, for giving us a nice review, and we are back up to our old tricks yet again. On the Friday edition the podcast, myself and Danny Gray. We welcome in now someone who has been a big part of this show for many, many years. We've had him

in studio. He has traveled the entire United States to meet other listeners of the show, and now he is spending some time with us on the international line, which sounds pretty impressive. But the magic of WiFi, the magic of the Internet. I can look at this man right

now we have a video connection. You can't see it because we're on the podcast and it's audio only on the fifth hour, but we welcome in a man who has been a big part of a many many things that we've done, a platinum winning member of the Mallard Militia, the Great Jays Scoop. Now Jay Scoop is joining us from a secret location in the Ukraine. You're saying, hey, Mallard, isn't that country at war with Russia. Yes? Yes, Jay Scoop, who lives in northern California, has made the trek across

oceans to get to Europe. He's had to cross into the border several plane flights will walk you through all that, and I wanted to have him on to go in depth, find out what it's been like, what his experience has been like as he's traveled around in a country that is actively at war against Russia. An amazing thing to experience. Now, a little backstory. Jay Scoop did spend four years in the military, and he's a proud former Marine and so

he has that background. He also has some Ukrainian bloodlines, so that's also a factor. But let's welcome in now without further Ado Live on the Fifth Hour with Ben Maller and Danny j from Ukraine. We welcome in a Jay Scoop. Jay, why why don't we start with this? Jay Scoop? Tell me how many hoops? You look great, by the way, but tell me how many hoops you had to jump through to get to where you are right now? Oh man? And isn't it crazy right now?

Like you're literally in La and I'm in Ukraine talking to you right now, Like this is mind boggling. Well, and you look like you're like next door. The wife is pretty good. I can I kind of can tell whatever room you're in, it looks Ukrainian a little bit. It doesn't look like American broom. There's there's not a lot of advertising on the walls or anything behind you. So I got that. Yeah, well, from from what I'm told, this is a revamped old communist like Hoteller or something.

But wow, only the best, Jay Scoop, Only the best. But yeah, originally, um, you know, and I told some other people this, but when this swar first kicked off over a year ago, I was like, oh man, you know, I really feel for these people. I'm also a quarter of Ukrainian, like, I really want to go over there, But at the time I was in a relationship with my girlfriends. So that's usually always been the kicker for me, whether I was gonna try to jump in on a

conflict or not. If somebody I loved was like there, I usually would refrain. But obviously my girlfriend and I broke up in the summer last summer, and that kind of opened the door for me coming over here. So I decided to pull the trigger once I once I saw that it was possible. So you see that it's possible. But I would have no idea if I woke up tomorrow and said, you know, I want to go to the Ukraine, I have no militarch anybod I want to go, like,

I wouldn't. I wouldn't know how to get there. You can't just fly into the Ukraine. You you would mentioned that you had a lot of different stops on the way. Hey, obviously it's a long fight. You live in California now, so you had to fly from northern California to Europe, And did someone walk you through it? Did you know because you were in the military, did you kind of have an idea of how to get into the Ukraine

or how complicated was it? Yeah, so it was kind of interesting because I had good intel and bad intel and I had to go through the stages there. But you know, I did have a couple of people that I already knew in Ukraine, a girl that I liked those over here, an artist that worked on some of my music graphics stuff, a couple other people. So I was asking, you know, like, Okay, how do I get over there? I already knew it was a no fly zone, and quite frankly, if it was still a fly zone,

would you really want to take your chances? You know, exactly? Yeah. So basically I was like, okay, how do I get in there? And I knew, you know, okay, I got to go to a boarding bordering country and get in, so Poland seemed like the most likely one to do. So then I had to find out how to get a cheap flight to get me to Poland. And then from that spot, it was like, okay, how do I get in? How hard is it to get in? What

do I need to cross that border? You know, it would suck to go all the way to the border. And then they're like, yeah, no, what what the hell are you doing if you can go home now, surprise you're not getting in. So how much paperwork did you have to bring with you? Like? Yeah, how complicated was that part of it? So? You know, I went out I think it was visit Ukraine Calm or or something like that, and it had all the all the hoops right. It was just like you know, your standard okay passport.

Being an American, I didn't have to worry about like a visa or whatever. But then it was like, okay, you gotta have your COVID stuff ready. Your COVID stuff has to be within you know, reasonable amount of times since your last shot. You have to buy Ukraine COVID insurance in case you get COVID over here. You won't be like bogging them down in the hospital as somebody who didn't have any money. Um, now that sounds worse than it is. You had like a lower tier version

and a higher tier version. The higher tier version, I can't remember. It was like the eight bucks or something. It was like a Burks. It was like, oh crap, and then I looked at the price, was like oh whatever, just like rattle off the few dollars like stripper money. At them. And then so you're saying, you're saying, Jay Jesse, you're saying that the American dollar goes a long way in the Ukraine. Is that? Is that what you're saying? The difference in in the money you can stretch a

little bit. Yes, it definitely does. Um right now, it's hovering around thirty seven revenreveniez to the dollar. And so like a good example, when my last Uber ride was sixty herevniaz, so that can tell you that's under two dollars that it took me for that ride. So okay, So yeah, okay, so you have your I can't believe this COVID insurance is still a thing, but whatever, I find that they have their rules. So you have your COVID, you have your COVID insurance, and then what else did

you need? And so then there's a couple of things like they want to make sure you have enough money for your stay, so that in conjunction with this standard one, right, why are you here? Where are you going? And why are you why are you coming here? And so of course I'm like, oh, I'm coming to visit the mic at this hotel. And honestly that's all you had to really do is say, okay, I have this reservation at

this hotel and here's my bank account. I show that I can meet them, and they have this little algorithm, this little formula that says, okay, this is how much money if you're there this many days, is how much you have to prove you have. And I had enough for that, So so I had all this stuff. Ben when I got to that border, they just looked at my passport. They didn't I did all that shit and I didn't need any of it. So it was mostly

outdated stuff. So they ran you around and then I took one look and then I go ahead, do it, do what you want. So when you get when you get to the border, like you know, you're you're tougher than me, you're in the military and all that. But when you get to the border and you cross over, and you know you're going to a place where there's like Russian bombs coming in, Like, do you know right away did you see stuff when you cross the border.

Did you have to go further into the Ukraine before you you saw some of the stuff that you've you've witnessed her since you've gotten over there. Sure, well, although everywhere in Ukraine is in range. Ukraine is a very big country, and so when you enter on the west west side, it's so far from the front that you know you're you're pretty safe. So Leviv is the name of the biggest, you know, city out on the west side.

You kind of cross and then go through there, So it takes quite a while to get over into the more dangerous areas. So when you're crossing the border, you're not really worried about the Russians. You're worried about the border gardens from getting in, worried about the politics of the Ukraine possibly maybe, And then the other part of it. I was curious, I mean, this is you're an American, you're in the Ukraine. Did you have to deal with the embassy? Are they even open in the Ukraine because

of what's going on there? Like that part of it? What kind of what kind of stuff? Did you have to deal with that? From what I understand, there's still representation there. But honestly, I just ignored them. I really only was going to involve them if it turned out I needed them to volunteer for the Ukraine military, and I wasn't sure if I was going to be doing that.

So so my first foray over here was really more of a reconmission at first to decide, okay, you know, what is it like over here, and then maybe I can make a decision, and then if I needed help, I was gonna try to go through the embassy things. But it very clearly says on any website you go to, the US is telling you not to come here, like everywhere. So if you get smoked over here, they're basically gonna

say I told you so. Yeah, and so they have no it's liability, right, it's always the lawyers, right, yeah, yeah, yeah about lawyers and lawsuits and things like that. Let's rewind for a minute though, because before I got to that border man, he was a ditch my freaking flight. So my flight was from San Francisco to London, which was cool. I'd never been there before, so I can technically say I got to be there, and then from

London to v in Austria. Well, you could see on my ticket there was thirty five minutes from when I was supposedly gonna land to when that next flight to go to crack All, Poland was going to take off, and everybody on that plane along with me that had this. We kept asking, hey, are we good? Are we good? Like this is a small window, are we good? Yeah, yeah, you're good, You're good. What happens We get and we run through and they make you go through the screening

all over again, like it. I can understand if it was like a different flight, but this was Austrian Airlines to an Austrian Airlines thing, so it wasn't like we anything where we should have had to go out and then back in, so that slowed us down. We get up to the thing and they're like, yeah, no, sorry, it's too late. And by the way, the next flight's like I don't know, like a day away and all

this stuff. And that killed me because remember I have a lot more stuff ahead of me, I have a trained catch a bus to catch all these things, are already paid for set up, and the stupid thirty five minute turnaround ended up literally derailing all my all my travel plans, so I had to call audibles at that point. Did they give you refunds on the trains and the planes and the part of the automobiles the rest of the trip, or did you have to buy pay pay

for that again? They were like, Okay, here's a hotel in Austria, will pay for that, take a cab, here's a card. When you end up paying for that, we're going to reimburse you. And here's this flight like the next day. And so you know, I'm sitting there just raging, raging, right because like I was supposed to. And so I just basically got online and I started seeing if there were any other options. I even checked to see if there was like an uber that could take imagine how

much that would have cost. Well, maybe not much, but my god, that would be a long uber ride. Yeah, because I was like, well, it's an our flight, like it was a short trip by plane, but you know plane, I mean, it could be going over mountains, who knows. So ultimately I found a there's this a bus company that's pretty international. It's called flix Flix and they cover a lot of different areas. And there was a bus route that went from Austria through Oh I'm gonna I'm

gonna mess this up. It's either Slovakia or Slovenia. I think it's Slovakia going to Slovakia. We'll go We're going with Slovakia. Nobody looking don't look at a map. Nobody look at a map. All right, we're just gonna go with this exactly. So Vienna Austria into Slovakia, you traverse Slovakia and then you pop out through the border to Ukraine. There. So instead of crossing from Poland into Ukraine, which is a little bit more easier route in I was crossing

in from Slovakia. And let me tell you, that bus ride wasn't too bad because it was comfortable. But when I got to that border, it was like you know when you go through customs, is the one guy and you go through and you're like, ah, shoot, okay, that was good, no problem. There was four moments of that, every time I handed my passport and then and then we would inch forward a little bit, and then there'd

be another guy, and then there was another guy. And they even stopped one guy and pulled them off the bus. I'm like, oh, they're coming for me. This must be what it was like in World War Two, Like what's happening here and there? And these guys and they're like checking you out there like mad I and you're mad dogging and all that, right, like what are you doing? And you're American? So did you say probably Were you the only American doing this? Yes? Yeah, yeah, I had.

To the left of me, I had this girl who had dual citizenship for Great Britain and Ukraine, and so she was helping me out with some of the you know, translations and things like that. But yeah, I had very very limited speech to be able to If these guys engaged with me, I knew I was screwed because they'd be like, oh, he doesn't know the language and get off the bus, let me see what you're about. But they didn't do it. I was under the radar. It

was awesome. Have you seen any Americans since you've been there? You've been there a while now, is there have you seen anyone who's from the States there or is it just all people from the Ukraine and maybe Great Britain or some other places. It's funny that you mentioned that, because just last night I heard my first two English

sneaking people. When I got back in town, I got grabbed some stuff at the market and these two black guys were walking by me and I'm like, wow, that's those are the first black guys I've seen since I've been here. And I listened, I'm like, I wonder if they're sure enough. They were speaking English, and I like kind of like did the old way, like hey, what's up? But that was crazy. That was the first first people.

There's a lot of people here that speak at least some English, but I mean as far as just like flat out American, those are the only ones. I wondered why those guys were here? Did you ask him? Did you say what? Nah? I was? They were heading out the door and I was ordering my Uber. It's called bolts over here. They don't call it Uber, it's bolts. They do have Uber here, but it really sucks because there's not that many people using it. There's a bolt

and something called Uklon. Yeah, uk lo o n. How much of the native tongue have you learned? You said your bloodlines from the Ukraine? Do you know enough? As it a pig Ukrainian buy a little bit sloppy Ukrainian. I have decent enough and according to the ladies the accents working for me too so. But yeah, I downloaded an app probably about a month out from me coming here, and I've been taking my lessons on there and so far I've been getting getting decent reviews. Give you a

sample Chennio tlebab p is even know you? So I said, wouldn't you like to have dinner with me tomorrow? Oh? So you've learned the pickup lines. Yes, that's good, Yes you've learned. It's very smooth of you. The priorities, uh, I would learn like where's the toilet or something like you were going to pick up the ladies here in the in the Ukraine. Well, and then I'll tell you, though, the best part about though here not knowing the language

is our technology. I literally, anytime I run into trouble, I just break out my phone, go to Google Translate, and they're doing the same thing like they clearly they're used to it, and so if they can't speak it enough, they're doing it right back. And so we're just sitting there typing on our phones. That's awesome, that is See. It breaks down all the barriers and all the walls

and all that stuff of communication. Imagine traveling back in the day before before the phones and stuff like you to have like what books out with the language and try to figure it all out, right, you got to do body language like a motho on that one. Not

good at that. I would not do well in that world if I would not do so, Like day to day, paint the picture here, like we know what we see on the news here, and that it's obviously an active war zone in Russia's bombing in the Ukraine's fighting back and all that. So like in the city or are people is it just normals? It feel normal? Can you tell there's some weird stuff going on? Like and where you've been, you traveled all over, So paint the picture here, jascha.

What's it like day to day there? Sure? So for most of the most of the people here, they kind of go like as if on the outside they're showing like as if nothing is happening, right, nothing is different, And I think, you know, that's more of kind of like us keeping your sanity thing right, Like like the girl I was talking to you before I came over here, she said, you know, it would it would drive us

crazy if we thought about the war too much. So basically, we just live our life like it is and if we you know, if we get killed, we just hope it happens fast. And I was like, wow, that's very cold to say, you know, Like I'm used to military people saying that, but not civilians. And but you know, Eastern Europeans also have a kind of a reputation for being a little bit you know, more sterne. I don't know what's the right word, but you know, they're stoic.

I don't know if that's the right word. They're able to come year mentalize. Yeah, they have a very tough that does not happen, um, you know in America very I mean people freak out over the right now, we freak out over all kinds of bullshit that's going on here. So I can if something terrible like this happened here,

what would would take place? But yeah, what a way to live your life, though, Chase Cooper right an, you're like something, you know, I guess it's got to be the way you do it, right, I mean, diagnose the situation.

You're like, what else? What else can you really do? Yeah, it's it's crazy, And but I found that the bigger city you're in pretty much the more safer you're going to be, unless you're like all the way out in the east where the Russians are, you know, have been taken over and so and then of the big cities, the one that's going to take the most fire is the obvious one. Kiv is the capital, right, so you take the capital, you cut off the heads. So obviously

they're constantly trying to mess with Kiv. And the town that I go to when I'm not traversing other places is one of the closest, bigger towns to Kiv, so it kind of benefits from that, right, if if rockets are coming, they're gonna go the other the other direction, because it's like, well, why why I hit this town. There's not really much reason to hit this one. Yeah, And then like, but all the restaurants are open and people are out, you know, just living their lives like

you know, so no, yeah, yeah, it's crazy. Like they have curfews everywhere and it can change depending on your region. But even while I've been here, the curfew let up a little bit. Like I want to say, the curfew was between nine pm and five am. You were not supposed to be out on the streets, and I want to say, right now it's like midnight to four. It just switched to so um. But yeah, all the places I just I did some karaoke, like last time I was I was in town. I was like what and

then they were like, Wow, this American. This guy's like she's singing like he's really American. I'm like, because I am. You're like wow, You're like you're like the greatest actor of all time. Dude, you like seem like a US guy. Wow, that's why. And you're like a professional musician Jay School. So you must have absolutely dominated the karaoke machine. What's what, Karrie?

What's your go to karaoke song? Well? I killed it because not only my good singer, but I remember part of my past I had to do some cover band music, so I just like dial up those songs that I've done like a million times. So I was doing like the Killers, Mister bright Side, Plush by Stone, Temple Pilot, It's you know, oh yeah, I just I was slaying. They're like, oh my god. Well, you know the famous

Elvis Presley's story, right, I think this is true. I heard this years ago that Elvis went It wasn't a karaoke thing, but he went to like an Elvis impersonator contest and he didn't win. He finished in like third or days because they didn't believe it was him. He didn't announce who he was. But but they people and like you're a real singer, and people are like, wait a minute, what's going that's that's that's wild. As far

as your timeline, ye, where are you at Jasco? As far as you're how long have you been there at the time we're talking right now, you've been there, it feels like for several weeks. Am I right on that? Am I wrong on that? Yeah? So I left San Francisco on the twenty fifth. I was supposed to get here on the twenty seventh. Because of that stupid Vienna fiasco. I got here a day and a half later, so instead of two and a half of days, it took me four days to get here. So so yeah, I

got here on the twenty eighth. So you've been there about as we're talking. You've been there a couple of weeks, and and you're you're enjoying the experience. I mean, you're obviously you're going there. Just you said this was a recon mission. You're trying to figure out the next step and all that, and and where you at in that

journey right now after a couple of weeks into this. Sure, So the main thing was, Okay, where on the scale am I going to be from fall on the left side of the scale as humanitarian and all the way on the right side is I'm just gonna volunteer Ukraine Army and just boom, I'm in and under their control. And obviously I wanted to lean more towards humanitarian UM and some of my loved ones were really pushing for

me to not do the military route. So I was like, well, okay, how how's the best way for me to go around this? And then I decided, you know, I think a combination of financially and and trying to get some goods to the right people UM was the route I wanted to go.

And I knew that I with my background, I'm willing to traverse into the areas that you would you would not want to go to UM and so I have brought a lot of supplies and stuff to the civilians in the areas that you normally will see that are read the map in Ukraine right now, UM and UH, and the soldiers. So I've I've gone, I've gotten to mingle with soldiers where I normally would not be able to go. But because they were able to verify that I was legit with my background, they've let me into

their kind of inner circle, if you will. So I've gotten to go in where where troops are and that's pretty cool. Unfortunately I can't bring my phone there. Uh. I believe it when they say if the drone is flying around and it detects the cellular signal, it's going to launch something at that direction. I don't even know if that's true. Is that what they tell you? That's why I wonder is do they you think they have? The technology is crazy? Right? I know, right? But am

I going to test it? I know? I know how long ago you were in the military for what four years? Right? I think you told me so. How long ago did you get out? You've been out of the military for for a number of years, right, Yeah, it's been quite some time. Now. Imagine the technology now and you were not.

I mean it's been been a few years. But think about where they're at right now with the bells and whistles, with the stuff they because every year, right, they come up with the new the new technology, and and they're always at the forefront the military. I know, Russia's different and the Ukraine's using a lot of US stuff though, right, they have a lot of a lot of the money from the US has gone to the mission for sure. Well fortunately for me and maybe not fortunately for the

infantry people. A lot of that stuff doesn't go too fast in terms of the advancements and the technology for like a normal infantryman. So even like say the rifles that they're using right now are just like kind of like a brother or sister to what I was using. A lot of the gear is adjusted slightly, but it's basically the same, Like I could easily just jump into it and do whatever. And then obviously aiming and shooting

is that's like riding a bike. So it's really more on the more support side, right, Your types of rockets, your drones, all that, these are things that weren't weren't there and prevalent with So it's like, okay, I gotta be careful getting detected and stuff. Yeah, no, for sure

for sure. And so when you when you go around, you've been there a couple of weeks, now, is there is there anything that some of the locals in the Ukraine, some of the people you've met in the different cities you've traveled to, they have anything they wanted to pass on to the people who might be hearing this, and like just curious about just the general the sense of what's going on. I'm trying to think of the right word here, but there messaging they have, or any kind

of theme you've heard from the people there. Definitely, yo, I was very I was very curious because again with how tough people are here, you know, you're not sure if somebody's gonna open up and tell you. And then much like how I know, you know, being back in the States, you know, you ask somebody like, oh, were you in the war or you know, you have to be careful when you ask them these things because it could, you know, be insensitive to that person. So you got

to know when and when not to ask things. But but yeah, one of the people here, um that I became good friends with, I just say, hey, you know, I'm curious, like what if you could tell America what you know, what you're what you're feeling about, what's going on? You know what, what would you say? And this is what they told quote Honestly, I don't want to say anything. I know that people abroad or tired of the war, and many are angry that everywhere they are burning with war,

and I understand them. But the fact is that they only hear about it and we live in it, and they can't even imagine how tired we are. We are very tired. We left our home, many families were destroyed, how many young guys, including my acquaintances, died. I'm generally silent about our Psyoche and after the war we will be mentally destroyed because we live one day but we do not know where and when something will fall and whether we will wake up. But from the outside, we

don't care about it because we're just tired. Yes, we hold on giving ourselves hope every day that we need to suffer a little more. But we were promised that it would be a little more than a month, and it turned out already four hundred and twelve days. It makes it to where you don't even want to convey to anybody how you feel. How I feel, So that's kind of crazy. And the shocker for me was the month thing. I was like months from the United States side.

I remember thinking, oh Russia's attacking. That sucks. I guess Ukraine's are about to be wiped out. Like I don't know, I don't know how everybody else thought, but I just thought, oh Russia's army must be so big they're not going to be able to stop this. And then I remember everybody was surprised how good Ukraine was was doing out the beginning. So I don't know when that month thing came in, but maybe just after that start was good for Ukraine. Maybe then they assessed it as a month.

I don't know. Well. The other thing I've learned, and I think this goes for any any country, is do not believe when they say it's only going to be a certain amount of time. I mean, remember when COVID started here in the un two weeks, A couple of weeks will be good, everything will be all right, will identify the problem, pinpoint the issue, everything will be fine, and you know, two and a half years later, it's like it's like the old the old Bruce willis thing

him die hard. Right, We'll have a couple of views and a couple of ye what's the worst thing that can happen? Man? All right, Well, we've kept you long enough jascause I know you got stuff to do, and I thank it. Boy, the connection has been great, though. I gotta tell you I'm connection here, so stay safe. Any idea how long you're gonna be there, just kind of taking it day by day. Do you have a rough outline and when you'll be heading back to the

United States. April thirtieth is the date I've kind of set for myself that possibly come back. I would stay longer, but you know, without without a visa, residency or whatever, you're allowed ninety days within a six month period, So so I want to be strategic how long I stay. So so there's a decent chance on April thirtieth I'll start heading back and then at some point I'll probably come back over to Ukraine. So yeah, all right, Well, if you find your way to Minnesota, Jay School, Big Mallard,

meet and great. I know that's high on your priority list. Jay scoop is to any you've been interacting, I know during the show you've been we see. The time difference is what time is the show on our shows on what time in the Ukraine? Is it in the morning or afternoon like when we're doing the show live. So for you guys on the Pacific Coast, you would flip the AMPM and then you would take two hours away. For me, I do the opposite. I flip it and I add too. Oh so it starts at nine nine am.

Is that am I rent on it? Right? Your your show? H for me, it's one a am here. Oh so it goes all because a day and then a couple it's ten hours. Ten hours difference is basically what it is, all right, I got e saite. I thought it was a daytime thing, but it's kind of it is for us. It is so at one pm your show it starts here. Yeah, we're doing mid days. There you go, and all right, Jay Scop, thanks stay safe man. I appreciate you doing this. And you want to say anything to the fans of

the show. I know you've been interacting with them on Twitter and all that. So any Justin and Cincinnati, your your buddy Josh, just Josh, your musical comrade there in in Cincinnati, and I know, I know bunch I got reached out to me. They want to They've been trying to get ahold of Terry in England and some of the other guys are like, we gotta get all the Jay scope and so they're all following along with your journey here for sure. For sure, I miss everybody. I

missed my musical brother Terry in England. I tried to text him. I don't know if he's got a rotary phone or what's going on there. So Terry, just so you know, I tried, man, But yeah, Terry's actually got one of the first phones ever when they invented the phone. He's no use. It's a tin cannon string. It's fascinating. There you go, there you go. But other than that, uh, I still also tried to interact with our podcast kind of company um to the show, So just do my

due diligence. You can find me on the Mallartown podcast on all streaming format ATS and it's also now on YouTube at YouTube dot com slash at Mallartown. And I gotta say, Ozzie Guy works very hard on this on this show, and uh and especially lately because some of the content. It fell off content wise, but we're revamping it. We're gonna have fresh and new fund parallels to the Ben Mallar Show, just as the name mallard Town suggests.

I'm excited about that. And we don't do shoutouts, as you know, but this week we did not do a shout out for Ozzie Guy, who may or may not have crossed over into the may have crossed over into his forty so, but we did not give him a shout out because, as you know, we're not a morning Zu show, but on the podcast we can. We could do that if we wanted to, but we could. I don't think we should though. Yeah, that's overrated, exactly exactly all right, Jay Scoop, thank you by man, and we'll

have you on again down the line. And I can't wait for you to get back and come visit us in the studio sometime. All right, Love me off, Peace,

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