The Fifth Hour: Barn Burner with Cheese

on that Thursday night game last night. We talked about it on the Overnight Show, and I don't want to rehash that here because we already discussed it. But if you missed the original recipe podcast, the Non Extra Country Podcast, it was a humdinger, a Barnburner of a finish as Lamar Jackson made multiple mistakes at the end of that game. And Lamar is a polarizing figure, as we know, because

he does things that nobody else does in the NFL. Right, there are some things that Lamar Jackson does that nobody else can do in the NFL, and there's also basic things that other quarterbacks are able to do that Lamar messes up all the time. And that game was the persona ocasion, was the epitome of the Lamar Jackson experience. And the Ravens didn't play all that well. There were

some defensive breakdowns. They have a new defensive coordinator, several new coaches on the staff, and they still had a chance to tie. And if they had scored the touchdown, the lively was out of bounds. If they had scored, they would have gone for two. But enough about that. We have another game tonight and that is in Brazil. The Eagles and the Packers will duke it out as there is military security protecting our NFL players in Brazil today and that game will be on Peacock later today.

More on that coming up on this the Friday edition. This sixth day of September edition of the podcast here will have the wardrobe change or was it the flapping your feathers like you just own care, cheeseburger in Paradise, and the phrase of the week. So there's a lot of stuff to get to. Today's National Read a Book Day. Who me and you can read a book while listening to the fifth Hour podcast, so you know that, Yes, you can multitest. You can read the book and listen

to this podcast in the back. And while we want you to focus on everything that we say, we get credit as long as you play the podcast. They have ways to track you. As you know, Big Brothers always watching or listening, so they can track you and how many people are listening. And when you listen to like you download the podcast, you listen for like five minutes, we get credit, but we get extra credit if you listen for ten minutes. I don't even know how it

all works. I just know we need a minimum of like five good minutes. We get a little credit for two or three, but we'd like to have more. We'd like to have more than that. So that's the deal on that.

But today is fight procrastination day, and opportunity for you and maybe me when it comes to the adulting stuff but not work stuff, to face your procrastination issue head on. And they are of course saying this is a mental health related and all that stuff, and yeah, well, it does actually lead to hoarding. I know that from having listeners who have gotten in some trouble Cowboy and Windsor and some other guys that have gotten to hoarding. And

it actually originates. Procrastination originates from a Greek poet who was among the first people to speak against procrastination. In a poem titled Works and Days. The Greek poet spoke to his brother who had mismanaged his inheritance, asking him not to abandon his duties. And so it goes all the way back to Greek times. So it is fight procrastination day. Now for us, we take you behind the scenes on Benny Versus the Penny. This is our second episode.

It has already aired in some markets, for example in Philadelphia. It has already been broadcast in Philly and a couple of other cities. Now the the main hub of this every station matters. But in Boston where the show is produced, my guy Vinnie and the production team Kevin and those guys put the show together. And our first showing on NBC Sports Boston will be tonight at six o'clock. We're in a great slot. We're on right after Felger and Maz So that's the very popular afternoon drive from the

sports of Michael Felger and Tony Maserati. It is simulcast. It's such a popular show that it is simulcast all I think all four hours are on NBC Sports Boston and then we come on after that. So that's a great slot. And Benny Versus the Penny not only if you miss it at six o'clock, it airs again at eight point thirty and nine to thirty, so there are three showings tonight of that program. There's no reason to miss in the Boston market on NBC Sports Boston Benny

versus the Penny. So check that out. Now, I did have a bit of a wardrobe issue, not a snaff foo. It wasn't a wardrobe malfunction by any means. It was a wardrobe change. It certainly was that. So I'll take you behind the scenes. Last week, the episode was boomed out to the masses, and we get feedback like any job to the radio show, and from time to time the bosses will say, hey, like this, I don't like this, you know, and then it's up to you to figure

out how you want to approach things. And we have a great team that follows the TV show very closely. As you might imagine, there's a lot of people involved, much more than a radio show where I have pretty much total editorial control over the radio show that I do. It's not exactly the same. I have a lot of leeway, a lot of leeway on the TV show, but I do not have complete and total control, nor would you

expect me to, nor would you expect me to. There's a lot of care that goes into it, right, It's very surgical the way to put the show together and all that stuff. So in terms of the picks, those are obviously my picks. And sometimes I might say something that is allowed on the radio and not allowed on television and for whatever reason, for whatever reason, and so we make sure not to do that again, make sure

to clean that up. But as far as the wardrobe is concerned, I did get one comment from one of the big bosses at NBC is like, hey, you know, I like the show this, that, and the other thing. However, however, and then they'll point something out. And if you've known me at all from the Overnight Show, you know, in terms of that show, I am the fashionista. I just am I Eddie. Come on, Eddie wears the same thing all the time. Coop no, and Lorena has been away.

But I'm the snappy dresser. I'm the snappy dresser on the show. I'm on camera there, I'm just on the YouTube channel for the show, and it's like I'm walking down the catwalk all time. So it was odd when somebody from NBC contacted me and said, hey, you know, I like the show, however, I'd like to update this little wrinkle. So it caught my attention. It was hat related.

It was hat related. So one of the big bosses at NBC's like, hey, I would like you to have a different hat, and he even went on the interweb and found the style of hat that he wanted me to have. The look and all that. I said, Okay, you're the boss. I mean, you gave me a damn TV show. Whatever you want. I'm there, man, I don't know. I'm in radio, you know, fashion, even though I'm the fashion Nissa on the show. It's like, okay, this is a different world from me. I thought, like a wardrobe

and worry about my appearance and stuff. I can't be a disheveled slob and I mean, man, So he sent something to me and we immediately bought it. Bought this this hat from hand crafted from Ireland to where so we got the hat doing the show normal week. In terms of prep, you know, sent the stuff where it needed to go to Vinnie. I do most of the prep for the show. Send it to Vinnie. He then

puts everything together, the rich tapestry of information. He has to sew that together into a rundown where we have the A block, the B block, and the C block. Because it's half hour show, so you get the beginning, the middle, and then the end. Boom boom boom, and that's it. Shows over. So I send him the stuff. He then sends me back at the end of the day, he sends me the rundow. So then at that point I have to compile my talking points and I don't

use it tele a prompter. That's Tom Looney. Tom Looney's prompter. Tom, He's Tom the prompter. Don't use a prompter. Probably should use a prompter. Don't use a prompter. So it's all pretty much muscle memory where I go over my notes and I'm trying to remember like key points I want to make. But the show is my end is improvised what I'm going to say. I have an idea of what I want to say, and I way too much

much information on every game. The show is only half an hour, and because of that, as we've talked about in previous episodes of this podcast, the fifth hour, a lot of stuff does not end up on the show, and the same thing happens in radio. It's even more exasperated on the television show because there's so many moving parts and you're on camera, then you're off camera and you're paranoid about how you're looking, and the whole thing. And so there's all that involved. There's all that involved,

but the wardrobe thing. So you get to the point, please, Okay, I'll get to the point. So I show up to the Universal studios and I'm the first one there because what I do is my move is I do the radio show and boom, I'm getting off the radio. I scoot right over to Universal students. I'm like, hey man, I'm at Universe. This is great. But there's no one there when I get there, there's no one there, like

the security guard. There's somebody in the CNBC newsroom, in the MSNBC newsroom, because it's kind of where we have our studio. It's in the the NBC Tom Brokaw building over there, and so we have our own little little cubby hole there, and there's a room right across the hall. You go out of the studio. We record Benny versus the Penny, and it was a big green screen and cameras and the lights and all stuff. So you go

out of there, you make a right turn. There's a whole hallway, but you go you don't look at the hallway, you just turn right. Then as you're walking down you take a few steps down to the right, and then to the left there's a door. There's a couple of tables in there, and that's where I spend most of my time on the Universal Lot. I go in there. There's power, there's a whatever you need there. They got

everything you need. There's a great commissary there down the hall where they have all the usual nonsense with water and coffee which I don't drink. And there's downstairs there's snacks you can you can get you have to buy them, I fast, so I don't. I don't buy them. But anyway, well, so I go in that room and it's the middle of the night. There's no one there whatever, and I'm just trying to compile and put together how I want the show to go. I and it's like some things

that I want to make sure I get in. There's some things that you know, whether that gets in or not, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. So I do that, and I guess some other stuff I have to take care of. So I'm in there a while and kind of doing my thing and all that, and then eventually Looney strolls in. Now the great thing about when Looney shows up to record the show. He's there right before we have this call time. They send a sheet down.

You have a call time, have to be there, and I get there real early because I got nothing else to do. Looney strolls in. You always hear Looney before you see him. You always hee him. He'd be a terrible spot. He's the antithesis of a ninja. Okay, So you hear him chit chatting, playing grab ass with pretty much everybody who's wandering around. And by that time there's people that are showing up, and you know, Looney's saying hello and he's remembering everyone's name, and you know it's

Pop Pop Phizz fizz. Oh, what a relief it is. Tom Looney's here. So I hear him before I see him. He shows up, and then we go over everything. He's got a couple of wardrobe options. We do a table You think we're kidding, but we don't. We actually do a table read, and we go over every segment of the show. And what often happens during the table read

if we haven't mentioned this in previous episodes. So we go over things, but there's things that we don't want the other person to know, like Looney will drop stuff on me when we're actually doing the show that wasn't in the table read, and vice versa, and vice versa. So well, well, it's you know what it's like. It's like exhibition football where you don't want to show the other team your playbook, but you want to play the game, but you don't want to show what you're going to

do in the real game. And so that's what it's like. But it gives you a sense of what's going to happen, but there's always surprises. So we do all that, and this, to me is a very important part of the making of the show because unlike the radio show, you go in there you want to get it done. It's on television at lasts for several days, it's everywhere people can you want to it's your product. You are putting your product out there, so it's important we go over that.

So fine, we do that, and then it's time to put the final pieces to the wardrobe together. And I mentioned that one of the big executives at NBC had said, hey, we want you to get this hat. So I bought the hat, pretty expensive hat, pretty expensive hat, and so I put the hat on, I put the sweater on, changed up the sweater this week. I got permission from the big bosses at NBC to change the wardrobe. So fine,

So I go into the studio. I sit down, new hat on, and there's a lot of conversation going on back in Boston. People are going back. I know they're talking about the hat. I know, the hat's the point of emphasis. And then they're trying to adjust the lighting. So I've got people running around behind me and in front of me trying to adjust the lighting in there, Like what's going on. It's like okay, And I had a feeling the hat something was a little off, but

again it wasn't my decision. This was somebody that wanted me to wear the hat. So I don't wear it whatever, you know, they want it, whatever they want, I'll wear clown makeup if they want, they you know, keep me a TV show. I mean, come on, some would argue I am wearing clown makeup. So I went in there, we sit down, I test the microphones, and we have to test the earpiece and all that stuff. And so

I'm pretty normal minimal things, nominal, nominal stuff. And we go through all the trivial stuff and and then I get the message, Hey is do you have the hat from last week in your in your bag? Why? Yes, I do. I absolutely have the hat from last week. So I had to go out of this to take my mic off and my IFB go out of the studio, go make a right turn, go into the room I normally hang out at and fiddle with my hat. And

so fiddle with my hat I did. And so it turns out that I will be returning the very expensive hat hand crafted from Ireland. It just I have a very large head. And you can say because I've got a lot of empty space or I have a big brain. Either way, and so the bit of a problem to find hats that fit right on the big head not easy, not easy. So then we use the old hat. You can see that today, later today and tomorrow and then Sunday morning on this week's edition of Benny Versus the Pennys.

We like to call it BBP BBP Betty versus Penny. So we turned the page on that and I got a lot of great feedback, and we're going to do the mail bag on Sunday and we'll read your questions and go over the quiz of the week from you guys. And we got a lot of email this week, which is great, and I'm sure we'll get more between now and Sunday. You can email Real fifth Hour at gmail dot com. Real fifth Hour at gmail dot com. Fine, so people are emailing me be like, hey, I want

to watch the show. I have Peacock and where's the show? So I point out where the show is. I go over here, the show's shows right there, boom, I'll watch watch the show. So fine, and then, uh, I guess it was yesterday on Thursday, maybe even Wednesday, might have been on Wednesday. I think I think it was actually started on Wednesday. I'm getting these messages that are are trickling in and people are are annoyed. They're getting progressively more upset and know what did what did I do here?

And I don't think I did. I didn't. I don't think I did any anyway. The the tenor of the messages where hey, I heard you mentioned on the radio show that your TV show is on pot On on Peacock on Peacock, uh, and uh, but I couldn't find it. Did you lie? Did you make that up? You know that whole thing? And one guy even went as far as to say. They contacted customer service. They were that annoyed they could not find the show on Peacock. So

then that sparked a minutes long Mallor investigation. As I started to freak out what happened to the show, I became a bit abrasive, bit abrasive, as they were right. The people that were contacting me were there. They were annoyed, they were upset, which is I'm honored that you're upset because you can't find a TV show that's a week old. Anyway, now I know the rest of the story, the rest

of the story. So it turns out the TV show has a rather quick expiration date because we're picking games that are played mostly on Sunday and then the Monday night game. There's no reason to keep the show up other than to make us look like jackasses, you know, jack wagons or whatever. So what they do, it's just like the TV show, the TV show which is on Peacock. It's the same show, but on cable they stop airing it at one o'clock Eastern on Sunday because that's when

they kick off that big television window. So somewhere and this is way over my pay grade. Somebody that is involved in the Peacock process not only took the show off Peacock, which I'm fine with. I get it. Even though last week's episode, the week one episode preseason is pretty much evergreen in terms of the picks are going to last all year. We did win totals, we did some player I did some player props. Those bets will have a lifespan that will go all the way through

the regular season. The show this week, which you'll start start today, that in the pecking order of television, and it's going to be dated on on Sunday. Okay, so fine. But the only problem I had I did let the people at NBC know is they took the entire beny versus the penny page down and one guy contacted their customer service and the person wasn't real helpful and that you know, they kind of got upset and all that.

So I just want you to know I do care about your feedback, and I have contacted through the proper channels. I do know the social order, I know where I fall on the food chain, so I feel like I was diplomatic and we'll see where the road takes us here, hopefully, we'll get this straight now early. This is the first year we've been on Peacock and it was really cool. They had a great page. My ugly photo was on there, and from what I understand, don't hold me to this,

that page will be back up this afternoon. By this afternoon and you'll be able to watch Benny Versus the Penny week two week two week. It's week one of the NFL season, but week two for the show, episode two, and so you'll be able to watch that later today.

And you know, one thing I have no problem with being bashful is is promoting the show, and so I'll send that out on all the appropriate social media channels and this podcast companion your next level P one if you're in here, So that's how I classify you that you're even listening to the podcast on the weekends, and hopefully you listen to the overnight show. So thank you for flapping your feathers about the Peacock. We'll get that

sorted out again today. It should be back up and then remember though, it's only going to be up for a few days, so if you're planning on we were just talking about this earlier a few minutes ago, procrastinating, well, fight procrast nation. If you're planning on pushing back the TV show, you have until Sunday morning and then the thing vanishes into the into the into the outer space area. So who knows. Moving on from that, it is a

cheeseburger in Paradise. And this is one of those fun facts that I had heard years ago and I had forgotten. Do you ever have that happen When you hear something then you kind of forget about it and then it's back. And that's what happened this week. So I fell down this rabbit hole. I was reading a story about about some some fast food restaurants and how they're price gouging people and then they and then I clicked on another story and it was about the shake Shack, the burger

joined from New York. That's a national chain and they're closing some location in Los Angeles. So then I checked that out, and then I clicked on another story and it was about the genesis of the cheeseburger. Now, the hamburger, we know the hamburger where it comes from, We've done that on the show. But the cheeseburger, this blows me away. The cheeseburger only dates back to the early nineteen hundred. In fact, this is the one hundredth anniversary of the

cheeseburger nineteen twenty four. And the cheeseburger where do you think it was in? You think it was like New York, Boston, Philly, one of those early US towns. Or do you think it came from Germany? Hamburg, Germany? What if I told you that the cheeseburger came from Pasadena, home of the Rose Bowl and the Rose Parade, And in nineteen twenty four it was the first time the original hamburger in cheese appeared on a menu. Now, the actual term cheeseburger

was invented somewhere else, I think in Louisiana. I'll have to double check that, But the process of putting cheese on a burger, the first place that popped up on a menu was in Pasadena. The legend is that it happened on Colorado Boulevard that was then known as Root sixty six. Get your kicks on Root sixty six. They've had songs, many songs written about that over the years. It was where the right spot that's a restaurant once stood and that is where the cheeseburger was born. It

cost all of fifteen cents. And as the legend goes, is it true that a gentleman named hs Sternberger great name, and his two sons who happened to be twins, Van and Lionel. They were in Pasadena in nineteen sixteen from San Diego. The sixteen year old Lionel Sternberger was working in the kitchen at his dad's restaurant. There the original hamburger and cheese would pop up on the menu there at the right spot. So this kid's sixteen, he's working,

he's in high school. He's working at the restaurant southwest corner of Colorado Boulevard on an Avenue sixty four. I used to live on Avenue twenty six. It's one of my old old homes, so Avenue sixty four in Colorado Boulevard. And this this kid's working as a short order cook. And one random day in nineteen twenty four, a sixteen year old kid introduced cheese to a patty of beef. Now, how exactly he decided to do this is a bit

of a mystery. There are two theories that food historians have come up with, but we do know he called it not a cheeseburger. He called it the Aristocrat burger. The original hamburger with cheese is what they called it. So version number one is the story that I like better. That I like better. This story is the kids screwed up and it was a cover up. Now, often you hear the cover up is worse than the crime. This

time the cover up was better than the crime. So Lionel Sternberger, at age sixteen's working his dad's restaurant, short order cook. He's behind the counter there flipping burgers and uh uh, he accidentally burnt a patty. Now for me, that's not an accident. For me, that's what I want. When I go to get a burger, I want it burned. I cook burgers usually on Fridays. It's burger Day. Today's burger day, so I'll have Bobby on the griddle. I might make a cheese steak, but so cheat day, cheat meal.

So I love it burned. I love it well done. Most people know. So back in nineteen twenty four, you don't even want to burn hamburger patty, but you don't want to throw it away because stuff's pricey. I mean, fifteen cents that's very expensive for a burger. So this kid's like, hey, I got an idea, and a good old Lionel Sternberger says, I fed up. So when you f up, you got to cover up. And that's exactly

what he did. He made a mistake and in order to hide the mistake, can't put makeup on a burger that's burned, so he slapped a slice of cheese to conceal the charcoal on the burger. And the rest is his story, or is it. Another theory is that this kid had nothing to do with the idea and he was just following orders that the customer came in. There's some random customer and said, hey, I'd like you to put a piece of cheese on my burger. And the kids say, ah, right, whatever you want. I'm just the

short order cook dude, and here you go. Knock yourself out. And that's how it started. Either way, though, I like the first version of the story better. You can decide for yourself. We've got the phrase of the way, all right. Phrase of the week this week is back to the drawing board. This was requested by a listener named Michael, who is from Indiana, So thank you Michael for emailing.

Appreciate your listenership. Michael lives in Indianapolis. He says he's a Colts fan, does not like baseball, and likes the Indiana Pacers. So pretty standard. Pretty standard, I would say, as far as the teams that you like, he wants us to break down back to the drawing board. So this actually is credited to an artist, a cartoonist. Peter Arnault is the name, and it goes back to nineteen forty one, so the phrase back to the drawing board not that old. It was a New Yorker cartoon New

Yorker magazine. The cartoon depicted a dude in a suit walking away from this crashed plane while carrying rolled up. And the way the cartoon was drawn was it was a mechanical drawing of an aircraft and there was a little cartoon bubble over the head, and the cartoon bubble over the head read well, back to the drawing board.

And supposedly the phrase originated actually during World War Two and then made its way into some military dudes, we're talking and the cartoon has heard it and put it in the New Yorker, and the phrase if you don't understand what it means, Kin Bobby's here, it's you screwed up something. It was not a success, and you got to get a fresh start, you know, begin again, you know, make a new beginning. However you want to say it, start from scratch. There's so many other ways to say it.

But back to the drawing board a phrase that originated in the New Yorker magazine cartoon in nineteen forty one. And now you know the rest of the story. And if you want to recommend a phrase or a word you'd like us to look up, please do so. We love words, love looking up words and trying to dig down rabbit holes and find out where things come from. But that should do it for us today. Danny will be back tomorrow with me Danny G for the Saturday podcast,

and we'll also have a fresh pod on Sunday. We'll have the mail Bag on Sunday. Joy the NFL tonight, don't forget Benny versus the Penny again, should be back up on Peacock later today, so we're excited about that. And watch that NFL game Eagles and Packers, which will also be on the Peacock Boy. They should run like a promo for the t R show Benny Versus The Penny on Peacock Boy. That would be awesome during the game. Don't think that's gonna happen. But you can dream, you know, dream,

Why not dream? But all weekend NBC Sports Boston tonight six o'clock obviously in Boston three o'clock in the West. If you have a satellite and you can watch it, It'll air all weekend and over and over again, several showings tonight in Boston, We're on. In Philadelphia, we are on in the morning today. Phillies are playing tonight and we'll be on again on Saturday morning in Philly and in the Bay Area. You're gonna be overwhelmed with Benny Versus the Penny. So Andrea and mister nice Guy and

Matt all you guys, thank you for watching. We'll have new episodes up. Even Inka Terror who's blind, loves watching Benny Versus the Penny. Have a wonderful rest of your day. We will catch you tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow later, Skater, Is that what Danny says? I think that's what he says, right, Yes, got a murder. I gotta go