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As we are back at it seven days a week. We started this during the pandemic, and the pandemic still going on, and we will continue, and if you keep downloading, we will likely continue forever, forever and ever and ever, every day of the week. A little taste of the Mallard experience if you want. Talking in the third person, But as I Ben Mallard, and we are bloviating the day away and again, for some reasons, clearly management not listening to this podcast. We are joined by David Gascon,

known by his nickname Gag. Aren't you happy that the management is not listening to this because if they did, it might be a little embarrassed at certain times of the day. But I don't know what you're talking about. There is nothing to be embarrassed about here at all. Oh, I'm not embarrassed. I know you're not embarrassed, but they could be embarrassed. There's this is morphed into it's not

really pop culture. It started as a gambling podcast and then it has morphed into I'm not really sure what you would say this podcast is, but it's it's a little listen, a little of that, and a lot of nothing. You know what it is. It is the evolution of Ben Mallory. Like I personally have been thankful and grateful to experience this ever since the day that we started working together. Because we are you gonna take credit for something? No, no,

not at all. I'm just I am telling you what I'm experience into because there were days and times where you told me I don't want video cameras in here. I don't want to be on the air. I want to be on the radio and the radio only. Um. In this past week, I've seen the continual evolution of you.

You've gotten, You've gotten on zoom, You're getting a webcam. Um, like the things you were totally against that I had brought up to you another colleagues here at Fox um people have been doing over the last year year and a half. Now, I'm not asking for any credit because I won't get any um, but I certainly do appreciate the victim. I'm not the victim. I I just like I am the catalyst for certain things. But you know, let me explain what happened. Okay, all right, So it

is true. In the future, probably starting sometime next week, maybe the week after, I am going to have a cam set up in the home studio here. And the reason though, it is not because of you, guess agree, Uh uh, it's not. I got an email from management and they said, hey, listen, we're promoting you know, Cowherd and got Leave and all these guys, and the video content is pretty popular, especially now during the pandemic. And we have no video content of you because you're in

your house and we can't put a camera there. But if you put a webcam up and you set up a way to record it, then we could highlight you and promote the show. And I'm like, well, I need any promotion I can get, you know, doing the overnight show. So I was like, all right, you know, I'll do it. Why not. And there's some other things that I have thought about doing that I have considered doing that that that couldn't happen or maybe you know, down the line,

depending on what happens with some other things. It's all happening to side together. That fascinating. Listen, it's not fascinating, it's all I think. It's just no, it's not no. So you know, I don't think anyone wants to look at me at all. I'm ugly, I'm repulsive. I got into radio because I'm ugly. But I will go on camera and uh, people watch, that's fine. If we add

more people to the show, um, that's that's great. But you've always wanted to do more, right like you you were on in Australia or New Zealand, you're you're in Boston. You've always wanted to do more. So there's that push and pull with you that uh you know, I'm not gonna say me, but there's other people that have encouraged you with air quotes to do more on different platforms. Uh, not to say that I have encouraged other colleagues you to do that, sort of thing, and I've tried to

do that on my own for them. UM, but I'm glad that you're coming around. This reminds me of of Lethal Weapon. That's a great movie. UM one, two, three, and four. It's like it's like Riggs and Murta like you are. That's relationship. Like there's that point in time in your radio career we just say like, fuck, I'm too old for this ship, and then here I come, and I'm like, Ben, we're not too old for that ship. Never said but you thought it? You thought I never

thought it. No, I've never thought that. I don't. I don't even think I'm as old as I am. I feel like I haven't really aged. I know I have because my you know, I'm losing hair and I got gray hair and crap like that. But I'm like, physically, I don't feel bad or anything like that. I feel the same. I approach life the same way. I don't. I don't feel any different. I know I'm getting closer to the end in the beginning, but it doesn't matter. I don't know. It's like, come on, I know, but

you were so against these other elements psychology. I had a full plate. I had a full plate. I had. At one point I had w E I and Boston and I was doing two or three days a week at night. And then I had the New Zealand thing, which was a weekly appearance on the radio New Zealand, and I had some other stuff on the side, so I had no time to do anything other than that.

I was fully focused on all that stuff. And then you know, the EI thing went away because we went on the Sports Hub in Boston five, the Sports Hub by the way and Boston the great radio station, and then New Zealand went away because of the coronavirus. The whole fucking network shut down in Knockland, New Zealand. Unfortunately, my friends out of work, and hopefully that will come back after the pandemic, but there's no guarantee it comes back after the pandemic. So uh so, yeah, so I

lost all that other stuff. So now I'm like, all right, you know, the part of me when I got into radio, I was like that, well, I don't really have a backup plan when I get into radiar other than working at Costco or something. Not that that's a bad job. It's a very important job now, but I never had a backup plan. So I was always like, all right, if I'm to be in the business, I gotta have a couple of things going. I gotta I gotta be

a juggling I gotta juggle a couple of things. I don't jug juggle a couple of things I can't put. You know, it's that only I don't want to put all your eggs in one basket, right, It's really true. You want to have some options in case something goes sideways with one of the gigs, and so right now I got no other options. You know, I think I think you can agree with me on this, is that just because you have a full plate doesn't mean it's

necessarily the most nutritious. So I think when you scale back and you have a well balanced meal, and you know, I I think that you would agree. Being in radio for such long period of time that you can't do it all by yourself, even though there are times where you do everything by yourself, having a good support staff and people that encourage you and promote you and support you makes life for you that much more and pleasurable, right,

I mean, such a NARCISSI I'm not even talking about myself. Well, you are you can do this smirk this annoying really doesn't say it's a west of the four o four, west of the four oh five argant that you have, and it's nauseating, you know, it's absolutely nauseating as what you know, what's east of the four or five? Ben Maller, Beverly Hills, Glendale, some of the finer cities in the United play you just compare Beverly Hills in Glendale. I love Glendale. Pasadena's east of the four Old Fast is

not west, It's not. There's a very depressed part of Passadena. Bullshit, Yes, hell yeah there is. Trust me. You go a little north, No, you go a little north of where were in that Altadena Pasadena area, little north of the famous strip there Colorado Boulevard where all those great restaurants and I used to love. Oh man, I look forward to going back to Colorado Boulevard past. Yeah, we had dinner there one time. Yeah, I love it. I used to hang out when I

lived at an apartment in downtown. I would take the train out to Pasadena and just hang on. I loved and the vibe was great everything. But but if you go north, I mean I used to go to a gym that was on the border of Pasadena and Altadena, and I got my card broken into at that gym, and they said it happened all the time that that was it was that area. There was a ton of crime in that area. So yeah, there are pockets west of the east of the four oh five that are nice,

but overwhelmingly that's where the blue collar worker lives. That's that's where the salt of the earth. I know you don't like salt of the earth people and all that you don't like the blue collar. Well nothing, that's what you all. Nothing tells me blue collar like an individual that performs their work at home. Now, I mean, since I'm not really white collar. Have you mentioned several times off the air I come into work like I have to wear a mask and and I'm driving to work

all these different times. So let me point out, just just for the record, Um, you do this because you're not important enough to work from home. I don't understand that the company does not value enough. Just remember that to all your listeners out there, you're not important enough so you have to go outside of your house. You're so important that the company wants to protect me from

the bug. So they've demanded that I quarantined the Mallard mansion because there's so I'm such a valuable piece of the Fox imp are that I have to stay in my house twenty four hours actually with twenty three hours a day because they go for about an hour walk, So twenty three hours a day I have to stay. How important night want to even risk my health to go outside? Think about that? How it's amazing, And that's

that's just the way it is. I agree. And with that same logic, we can apply that to other people that listen to your show that are required to go out of their house to do their job. That's the exact same logic that we're applying. Those people aren't as important, they're not as valuable apparently, So that's different things. In radio. I explain this. You know, you get talked to you

on your level there down your grade level. So so here's the thing in the radio twelve degrees is alright, alright, So in the radio business, um, we can work remotely. If you are a police officer, you cannot enforce crime remotely. If you are a nurse, you can't. We're from home, you can't be effective. You can't do You can't doc right now, you can't. You're not as effective when you're actually seeing patients. Right somebody comes to you and says, hey,

I'm sick, I've got whatever illness. If you're not physically there, it is much more difficult to properly treat those people. So therefore those jobs you have to actually do. I'm in a business where you don't have to do it. You're not in the same side of the business. You're in the lower wrong of the radio business. Yeah, that's that's that's where you started. I think I started in San Diego. Actually I started before that, No, but I

mean in terms of the job and and operation. The way that you were into the industry was what as a board op or an anchor. Well, I was very briefly an engineer that was a board op, but that didn't last very long. I was the engineer for San Diego State men's basketball. I told the story before. I had some major disasters when I ran the board for Aztecs basketball back in the day. I still have night mirrors about that, and that's a disaster to be in my book. So I did that, and then I was

I was I started an intern for Hacks. I ran the board for a little bit. I did a little producing, not very much of that, and then I became a radio reporter, did that for a number of years in the nineties, and then they started a station in l A. And I became a gasbag, a talk show host. This is fascinating because you were more valuable than the guys that you bitch and monat by being off the radio.

There's certain times in your show where it's just puts and you're yelling at Roberto and everybody else here at Fox Sports Radio because you're not on the radio. Your valuable voice is not on the radio. Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven p m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Here's what's coming up on the menu for today's edition that we've already been doing the podcast, but what we have to don't

know why I need to do it now. I mean, he's already a zillion minutes into this thing. But but anyway, so here's what's coming up. We're gonna get to respect respect. Also Kremlin's and Goblins Buster and we have don't stick to sports as well. We'll get to all that, and we will begin with this. You know, Gascana, we just talked about my road in radio and how I've been able to maneuver the highways and byways of the radio industry.

Um mostly successful. I've only been fired a few times in radio, and so never has anyone ever done anything to say, hey boy, you're doing a good job. That's a solid, that's a solid man, You're great. Doesn't happen. I've never won any awards in radio. The closest thing I've gotten to an award in radio is restaurants in Kansas City, Denver, and Lawrence, Kansas and formerly in Syracuse and in Michigan named food dishes after me. That's to me a Marconi award right now. I did technically work

at a radio station that won the Marconi Award. W e I the year I might was there for like a year and a half, two years or whatever, and they won Marconi Awards. So that's how I got the nickname Marconi Maler Marconi because I was part I did two or three shows a week at night during the week, and that station won the Marconi Awards. So I am a Marconi Award winning broadcast as horse shit, it's not horseshit. I was at e I and I they they won

the Marconi fact look it up. Very like Parker review or Luke Walton of you to just pick up a ring, you know, they get a ring to they get the same ring. Smush Parker got the same ring Kobe Parker, Kobe Bryant got and just like you know, you go down the Chicago bo Dickie Simpkins get the same ring as Michael Jordan, didn't get a different ring, get the same fucking ring. And I was part of it. So, but that is the backdrop. I got an amazing seeing surprise.

You know, the one thing I have not done ever since March actually it was January nine. Ever since that day, I stopped checking the company email. You know why, I'll stopped checking the company email. I have a pretty good a couple of reasons why. But yeah, it's go on. Yeah, So I got whacked on that day. It was the worst decision in the history of Fox Sports. Rate. I was terminated. I got the coal miners holiday, as they say they're I was put on the do not call list,

and so you know, it was the the budget. The economy had crashed, you know, eight and it was early oh nine, and they laid off a bunch of people and I happened to be on that list. And so I went to check my email and uh immediately lockout. So I realized that that day, I can't trust this email because if something doesn't go right, you know, if there's a you know, a fart in the wind, this email is gonna get shut down. And so I that

day I stopped checking maim bout. Now I have to check it a couple of times a year for W two forms and things like that, you know, that kind of tax stuff. It's tax season right now, so I had to check. So the other day I logged into

the company email. I slid her in there, and I hadn't been in the company email a long time, and I get this this message, you know, and I eat most of It's just like Dan buyer emails and Steve the Sagre emails, and these guys they were sending like this, the news of the day cut type thing, which I never even look at. Thanks, but they said, you've said some of those as well, So I never even look

at those. But so I'm going through my email. I'm trying to see if there's anything that I missed that I really probably should have seen, but I'm bad at checking email, and so I get this email. I scrolled down. You know, most of it's pretty generic that a lot of the radio trade websites, they'll send us links two stories about the industry, what's going on in the industry, especially now with the pandemic, and a lot of those things in the inbox. So I'm like going through and

I'm doing whatever. Uh, and then i get this email headlined, Hey Ben, I'm asking your approval for and then hiss the details and uh, this is outstanding. So I occasionally referenced a very brief education that I had at Saddleback College back in the day. And so this is the program director of Saddleback College. The radio station which actually

now since I left. When I was at Saddleback College, it was only in South Orange County, but they partnered with cow State Northridge, and so it's like a simulcast. My old college station is now a simulcast between cow State Northridge and that they have studios down there, so it's a collaboration between satellite. It's like a satellite type deal. So it's on in both l A and Orange County. When I was there, it was only on in Orange County.

But anyway, so that being said, they are promoting and tributing. Uh. They wanted to give tribute to me, a proper tribute to me, and they also at the same time, I wanted to promote the radio station. And so the ultimate sign of respect from Saddleback, as Warner Wolf would say, let's go to the audio tape. This is going to blow your mind away. The single I'm not exaggerating here the single greatest honor I've gotten in radio from my old college radio station. Here we go April. Ben is

born in Irvine, California. Obviously a bright and inquisitive child, Ben struggles and a conventional high school curriculum, but his keen interest in sports broadcasting leads him to enroll at Saddleback College, where he becomes play by play announcer of Gauchos football and basketball games on the radio. This experience at Saddleback helps prepare Ben for a full time career as a radio sports journalist on Fox Sports Radio. I love l s you in this game. I don't trust

a j McCarey. Saddleback College salutes, Ben Malice the Ben Mallard Show. We are in there everywhere, that aucho always a gouchow. Where will your saddleback college dreams take you? Find out at Saddleback dot e du man. That is like audio porn is what that is? So that's so narcisstic. The soul is great, that is wonderful. Are you like Alex? Where you so excited? I called you the wrong name I called you. Let me tell you something. I'm for Clempton.

All right. I am choked with emotion, is what I am. I am so finally, after all these years of bloviating over the radio and and being a gas bag and all this the finely, we have reached the pinnacle. A radio commercial slash tribute to me, what do you mean? We wonderful vers this we know to me, I didn't say what I said. You said we have reached this pinnacle. Well, it's a it's an effort. You know, I've got multiple personalities, as you and my personalities have worked out. This is unbelievable.

But it's one thing to have the nicknames. You know, I'm known as the spin massive Misinformation, the banner broadcaster.

I've been called the Beethoven of BS by people that listen to the show, the curmudgeon of commentary, although I'm pretty optimistic, all of a sudden uh chasm of sarcasm TSAs any dark night a week night sports radio, Mogul of mischief, Benny the Brazen King of zing, Moneyball Mallard, facetious Fox, Salting of insulting, jumping Jack of wisecrack, Insight of overnight name, Bob of Negativity, Sage of Outrage, Pinnacle of synegal, Prince of preposters, Professor or propaganda, hazar I hyperbably,

and the mad Hatter of sports jedder and and mind I had. One of my other nicknames is Benny Brightside. So I am known as Benny Brightside because I look at the I look at the glass is half full and getting filled up all the way to the top. But go ahead, guess I know it pains you to give me a pat on the back, and uh that boy and all that, but that momo, that commercial to get people to go to Saddleback is outstanding. I mean, they're they're gonna be overwhelmed with students now because of that.

I just think that we should applaud you for for opening your eyes, because, as I mentioned the top, we are doing so much to help push you out of your comfort zone and you're beginning to finally blossom like a delicate rose that you. Yeah, I mean, it's so contentious, you guess. I'm not. I'm you are? You got this like smart again? I gotta teach you, all right, I gotta teach you how to be relatable to the common

name I am. I mean, I'm not. For the record, I have never hung up on a color that calls me internationally like you did earlier in the week to Terry, like you hung up on the guy you want to stay high, Terry thought ye, Terry. Initially, Terry played oblivious. Originally, you know, played a little oblivious like I don't know what's going No, no, no, And then of course I figured out that you were communicating with him. Uh, you scumbag behind my back. In the end of all, you

were the lowest common denominators what you are there. There's nothing wrong with me trying to promote your podcast to the masses. That is, you were booking. You were booking a guest, which, first of all, I don't have guests. We have friends that hang with those people that we liked that we hang with. I don't do guests on this I don't like guests. Uh, it's not an interview which people we hang with. We asked random questions too. Now I want the record and to show that we

had actually planned and I had booked someone. We won't say who, but they flaked I got the message about an hour before we were beginning to record the podcast that this person flaked out on us. So we'll see whether they come. We give them another opportunity to come on the podcast in the future. But yeah, so does that give you any excuse to clip Terry at the knees and cut him off? I mean he was calling long distance. Well, I would have put Terry on the podcast if it had been my idea, but it was

your No, it was not. Yeah, originally it was. But you were working in cahoots behind my back in some kind of mutual admiration society with Terry, where you're gonna put him on. You found the one guy in the militia, the one guy who likes you and gets all with you, and it gives you extra syrup. It's sickening. Is what

it is. It's nauseating. And so of course, rather than put on a great man brigad dear general, like moving man Matt from Boston, or Justin in Cincinnati, or Chris and Houston, you put the ship in the militia legends in the militia. Well here's the thing. Like, I gotta like Chris and Houston. I want to do a power our with Chris and Houston, but he's working at the at the store. He I can't he can't dedicate the amount of time I need because he's got stuff to do.

And Justin's uh, I can't put him on because I got the FCC. I gotta worry about that guy's got a potty mouth. Yeah, well, wasn't he busy like flying to another state to go visit one of your old colleagues ex girlfriends and getting the corona or something like that. I don't. I don't know what's going on. Oh now, all of a sudden, you don't know what's going on. Listen,

I have no I have no idea. I hear rumors, yeah, I hear rumors, but I I do not know whether that and see, Chris and Houston can't come on you know why. It's because he's not available. I can't rip. Just if that's true, and you know people traveling around to uh hook up or whatever, I can't. I can't be ripping now. Now you're not supposed to do it because of the coronavirus. But back in the day, let me tell you guess you know I you know, I

would drive pretty far. I mean I would go pretty far if I thought I had a chance of succeeding. What's the furthest you've driven for a booty call? Or I think Santa Barbara. Okay, it's not like you're going to like, well, but it's this. But but listen, if we were on the East Coast, it would be like three states over from where I was living at the time. So, but you're going to Santa Barbara. It's not like you're going to Stockton. What do you are? I don't know

what's going on with Justin. He's driving around picking up bodies. That was his gig for a while. It's hard. Women generally don't find that attractive. I don't know, what do you what do you want? You know? To be fair, he's probably like a dead body in bed anyway. Wow, Well, you would know. Maybe you should, you know, test it out from your female militia members. It probably so. Listen, Terry, I liked you, I don't like you as much. What the fun is that I found out you were behind

my back like a snake with gascon. That is not the approach I would have taken there. And so you you know, you got a little bulls on your back now, Terry in England, I hate to say that, but it's not right. Now you have to kiss the boot. And if you kiss the boot then I will put you back into good graces of the Mala Milish. I'm willing to forgive and forget. I will give the all them branch to you and all that. But Bet, speaking of kissing the boot, I did watch one of your favorite quotes.

I've watched that movie There at Night, the man who shot Liberty Valence, sixties movie that I quote quite a bit there. Yes, it's pretty good. Right, that's good. When the legend becomes the fact, you go with the legend that solid it is true, it is so true, and we've you know, I hate to beat maccabb but I did a monologue the other day about Roy Halliday and his demise and the NTSB report came out and it

was bad, bad, bad news. You know, he's on ampheta means he had drug addiction apparently, like a whole cocktail of am being and all these other drugs. Now, who's drinking? Now? Who crushed you more? Because I remember when you did your Jose Fernandez monologue. Oh I got yeah, keep saying thing, Well, it's these guys when the legend becomes the fact, you go with the legend. Legend is these guys are star athletes, their bulletproof they have no they don't. They don't fall

to the same vices the rest of us have. And so when they die, we're supposed to give them a state, a rule in the proper and knows, people, we all have issues, and we all have problems, and no one's infallible. I get that. But you know, if you get all boozed up and fly your plane into the ocean, you've got two young kids and a wife at home, you know,

come on, are we supposed to celebrate that? And if you get in a boat in Miami in the in the night, in the middle of the night with a couple of buddies and you're doing a bunch of coke and you crash into a jetty and kill everyone. Do you deserve a state funeral? And nine days of the morning, I say no. Now, maybe I'm in I'm cruel and all that, but the lesson. The reason I bring that stuff up is because when the legend becomes the fact, you go with the legends, and people don't want to

hear that that. They just want to they want to celebrate the greatness of the athletic ability. Yeah, that was good. I noticed that earlier this week. Two you actually watching the World Series game? I did. I don't usually watch old games, and apparently no one else does. We heard from somebody this week that the ratings are terrible for

these games. But but I watch a little nostalgia. I was flashing back to when I was a kid watching the World Series on TV, and I love Joe Garagiola and vincel I'm such a broadcasting nerd like I was more excited about seeing Garagiola and Scully on TV and it propped back. Oh man, did I love that, dude?

I used to watch those guys. And then and then after that, I like overdosed on nostalgia because I fell into that trap that I do every once in a while, I'll do the nostalgic boogie, and I'll go over to the YouTube and I'll type in this week in baseball, and and then for like the next two two and a half hours, I will just like time will stand still and I will just worship the late great mel Allen and twib notes and uh straight A's in Oakland. The Cardinals are flying high in St. Louis, like all

those dopey lines. But when I was a kid man, did I love all that crab? I thought that was the greatest thing in the in the world here and all those And now you watch it, you're like, oh, boy, if I said that, I'd rip You know whoever said that, now I'd ripped. But you know when he when he said it was it was great. Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two

am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. It's weird because we were actually ready to tape a podcast episode like two or three weeks ago, and the background audio was actually Game one of the World Series, and you were ripping me because I was watching highlights of that. Yeah. Well, yeah, the one World Series eight allowed allowed. I did that. I did that during I think one of your shows when you're off the air for a healthy amount of time. Which which health problem did I have that you brought

onto me? Which the comrad existant condition came out because your com rex dropped. So I was. I stubbled upon YouTube and I was watching the nine a f C Divisional and championship games on NBC. Dick Enberg was on there. And that's another one. Charlie Jones, remember Charlie Jonson. Yes, Bob Trumpy. Bob Trumpy always did the shittiest games and

I loved it. You know, every Bill's game when they were bad, or Colts game when they were terrible, Bob Truppy, or you know the Bengals who were still terrible, and it was I always knew that was a bad game when Trumpy was doing. It's kind of like now, my my friend Dick Stockton. If Dick Stockton's calling the game, it's not one of the top games in which is weird because he had some really good games in twenty nineteen. I think that every time we went through the menu,

he actually had some some pretty decent games. They turned out to be good, like you had, you had graded him as bad, but then they actually turned out to be competitive. Well, let me say this, when Fox puts the schedule out, they project what they think are going to be the bad games. It doesn't always work out because you're projecting. It's kind of like the weather. You know, it's a forecast, and the forecast is often wrong. But they're projecting what's gonna be a popular game in this

day and age. You got you know, weatherman that are wrong, and now you've got doctors and people that are looking at models that are wrong on the coronavirus too. So so yeah, yeah, listen, it's I've been ranting about that. That's a whole We can put that in a different podcast because I got some thoughts on on that. It's fascinating what's going on right now out there, But I wanted to get to the Gremlins and Goblins buster, alright, so I should win some kind of I heart be

above and beyond the call of duty a word. I don't know if the company has something like that, but my god, did I do a courageous act this week. So if you've listened to the Overnight show, you know that I have had some major technical issues that have popped up over the last couple of weeks. Was knocked

off the year. I had to do multiple segments on my phone because my equipment was malfunctioning and it was a nightmare, and from the remote studio that we're broadcasting from compliments of the coronavirus, and so I had some issues here. I used to have an I s d N set up. Not to give you a little inside radio, but I guess I'll give you an inside radio. So I had an I s DN set up, which is a hard wire line and it's old technology. The company wanted me to get rid of it. They moved on

from it, the industry has moved on from it. I never had any problems with that. I never had any problems with the I s d N line, but the company wanted me to get rid of it and go to a more complex internet based UH situation. And so I did, of course, because you know who am, I'm just I'm a nobody. So I said, sure, whatever you want,

I'll have another UH. And so so anyways, I did that, and I've had I've had nothing of a problems with this new setup of of late, and so every day we'd have issues that the last couple of weeks, and so Roberto would send off an email to the engineering department and crickets. Nobody got back those not even in an acknowledgement that they received the email. Well the other night it was such a ship show that literally that and I you know was it was. It was crazy.

So that led to like the what what's the term defcon one? Right? And that's what the So they went Defcon one, DEFCN five? I think is it deathcon five? I thought it was Defcon one. I thought it goes in reverse. I thought like def Con five was was the worst? Yeah, I used to think that too, and I said Defcon five. And then I had somebody with a military background who said, Defcon one's actually the highest statue. Yeah, there is five is minimum, one is max. Yeah. So yeah, yeah,

I made the same mistake. You would think it would be the oppotuite, you would think Defcon five would be the worst. And then but no, Defcon one is the I love how like google Defcon five and all of a sudden there's a picture of JFK in there. Cis it's appropriate? Any So? Anyway, so I had some issues and after the last disastrous broadcast where I was like, I was really like after usually trying to whatever happens, I'm like, what, who cares? You know? Go to bed?

But I was like piste off because I was like, spent spent a lot of time getting ready for the show, and you assume you'll be able to do the show the way you want to do the show, and it's a disaster. So anyway, So I get a phone call in the afternoon from the one of the head engineers at I Heeart, who I didn't even know who. This guy never talked about at the company for years. I've been at the company for probably twenty years, never talked again. His name Fred. No, it was not Fred. I've talked

to Fred before. This was a different guy. So this guy calls up and, uh, hey whatever. We had a brief conversation. He says, listen, call you back in about half an hour. I'm gonna get somebody else on and we're gonna we're gonna go through this, we're gonna figure out what the hell is going on. Um And so I said, okay, fine, I'll be here, and in half

an hour later, Ring Ring calls me up. I'm on I'm on a conference call with a team of engineers and we go through all the equipment here the I Heart engineers and they I have to fix it, though, I have to physically do the thing to fix it. So they walk me through the steps that they think, you know, they're they're checking boxes and what they think the issue could be. And we figured out the problem

and I was able to fix it. So I should win some kind of I Heart Media Engineering Above and Beyond the Call of Duty award UH and UH possibly an FCC award, some kind of FCC. I have an FCC license. I don't know. I guess it's it's expired. But when I got into radio, I had to get a card from the government to run a radio board. And they don't have to do that anymore. Roberto told me the on the air the other day that he does not have a license. I had to get a license.

I never got a license. I got a license with a licensed broadcast. I was, I got a license. What year was that? This is the early nineties. Yeah, that's interesting. What's that that was? That's interesting. I've never I never knew that. I mean now, I mean, you have the badges though you have badges and paperwork that gives you a clearance to to drive. I know, yes, I am h key, Uh what does it say? It's the term there,

there's the I don't forget the emergency resp answering it. Yes, yes, there's some Communications Act that passed during one of the World Wars that broadcasters are essential. And uh, you have a card. I don't use it because I'm not leaving my house, but you you have in case you get pulled over and they say you're not supposed to be out of your house now, and you got that, except

if you're in Michigan. Now you've got a couple of sheriffs that are actually uh putting the boots to the governor out there about about people being quarantined not able to visit other people from door to door. So it seems a little much. It seems a little much to me, you know, I don't know. Drunk on power. Maybe Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation.

Catch all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app search f s R to listen Live Well Vett Well Vette taking things a little too far? You know, there's always that person that takes things a little too far, right, then yeah, you're having fun, and then somebody does the one thing they're not supposed to do. It's like they dropped the turn in the punch bowl or something like that. Oh, we're just kidding right now. You can't now not since

you brought it up. Um, and being off the air, I know it was a naked feeling for you, because I know you tend to have a stopwatch when you're not talking, but you're on the air, Um, someone else hawking the mic. Supposedly, how was the show when you were off the air? Well, I don't know because I couldn't hear it, so I don't know. I assume Eddie was panicking and Coope and Roberto were trying to figure out what was going on. And so I when I got knocked off there Sometimes I got knocked off in

the middle of a monologue. I was doing a Christian McCaffrey monologue and I got knocked off, and I didn't know. So it's funny because I had mentioned on this podcast with Lee Klein we had on a few weeks ago, and I and Lee had something similar happened, and I goofed on him, and I guess it's again the karma laws of the podcast world with you a whole and sure enough, the same thing after me. I'm doing a monologue. I'm thinking I'm nailing it and I'm gonna get a

tent from even the Russian judge. And then all of a sudden, I find out that half the half the monologue wasn't even on the air because it got cut off after seven minutes. I'm starting to think that i'm your karma, like for all the wrong that you've done in your life, all the wrong reasons, you're you're my bad luck. I think it's what you're I'm snake bit having to work with you. I think that's maybe right. Maybe By the way, kiss of death, by the way,

we talked about this two weeks ago. Every day with you guest, on this Friday thirteenth, I just want to say, it's nothing wrong with that. Everyone loves a good Friday, right. If you were an animal, you'd be a black cat. Wow, Now you're racist, all of a sudden, as something racist about that at all? Talking about God. So because you don't have a lot of confidence in other people. So I'm curious as to how the show does. Yeah, I

don't know. People, here's the odd thing that people loved it, you know, and people the biggest fans, and I get a lot of One of the cool things about doing the shows, we get real time reaction. And people were they they thought it was the greatest show they'd ever heard. And here I am thinking, man, this is just embarrassing. This is a network radio show. We can't even stay

in the fucking air. And h I'm doing this on my goddamn phone, you know, in the middle of the night, scream and I'm like, what it's like the end of the world. And then I get all these emas, Oh, that was great. That was the funniest show I've ever heard. That was like a throwback to the old days, you know. And and it's you know what it is. It's schadenfreud. It's shot. People are taking joy out of my misery.

They are feeling pleasure, just like I feel press you know, I I feel a sense of happiness when I hear something bad happens to the astros. That that is a powerful drug, that whole revenge thing, that's, you know, the quickest and easiest way to remedy. That kind of of technical and error on your part. Take your ass into the studio like Coop does, Eddie does, Roberto does. That doesn't guarantee. And now I know you're a newbie, a neophyte in radio, but let me let me teach you

a little something about business. I've been knocked off the year there. I've been like, yes, Bob Gara got the nickname wrong Button Bob, Bob Garra. I asked him to reset my computer one night. He then proceeds to walk down the hallway. He makes a right turn, then he makes a little bit of a left turn, then another right into the engineering room and proceeds to shut down the entire network. He found the one switch. Nobody even knows what switch that is, and it shut us off.

The entire network went dark, and uh, he got the nickname wrong Button Bob from that point forward, and he got promoted. Now he's the producer with Rob Parker and Bruss sort. I mean, he did something manly like you you just discussed, but it was an error. It wouldn't happen if you were here in the studio with us. So it's fine. I mean, there's other hosts that come in here and still do their show. But you know,

if you don't want to, it's fine. Well it's not many they didn't do that, and uh, key people, they're trying to protect their health, people like my know, Jason harm In, people like that. You know who comes into the studios. You know, Colin Coward goes into the studio in Burbank. So it's pretty nice that he can conduct business there. And well he does that in part, I believe because he wants the camera in there, because he likes the video that gets Internet. It's good for his brand.

He's a TV guy. He can't really do TV now because the show is on on hold and all that. So at least, I mean, at least admit a little bit that you miss coming into work. Like listen, I do miss coming you know. I got into radio because I like going to the radio station every once in a while. I would like to do the show from home and hopefully when things get back to normal, I'll still be able to do that. But no, I I

I am annoyed by this. It bothers me that we you things can't be normal and and you know it's it's annoying to me. I feel like, you know, this is this is unnecessary a lot of this stuff. That's just my opinion. But you know what the management management wants. I follow. I'm a good foot soldier, guest guns what I Well, you should learn that sometimes because maybe you that in the bullshit. I'm a great wing man and you cannot deny that. In fact, I know you're annoyed

by a lot of things. I will be happy to report that this podcast is up over the last thirty days, so we are doing more podcasts, so that might be who cares. That just means that it's more popular. I think that's good this. I'm glad people like the podcasting, whether they're downloading the podcast and that is. That's one. And now we've started and creating a monster. So now we have to do the podcast. We have to do three a week. Now we were doing one and now

we gotta do three. So well, it's not hard, is it. Well, it's hard to cash the check, you know. Let's just say it. Listen, you wear the big belt. You gotta fucking school to promote you on air. You got the luxury of you have the true generations of broadcast. Yeah, you have the luxury of operating your show from home. I think you carry a big stick, so you know, if you want the hell, you know, it's fine. Again, I appreciate that, guest, and we don't need to talk

about that family show. But I'm not gonna complain. I gotta tell you, I'm not gonna denounce you for saying that. If you want to talk more about that, you are more more than welcome. All right, Well, we'll put the baby to bed, as they say, right, guest. So you've got Facebook, Twitter, Instagram accounts. Yes, I got three different names on three different platforms. I'm really trying to get my Instagram following up because that that's the newest of

the platforms. And that's Ben Mallard on Fox. I'm a late arrival to the Instagram game. So Ben Mallar on Fox and usually post some stuff on the weekends more than during the week but you can see and I might start put some videos on there from the new camera that I'm getting in my remote studio here, so we'll have some videos up there. Also the Facebook page Ben Maller Show, Now that's the Place in the Future podcast. So this weekend we'll have asked Ben, which is well

not really asked. We call it the mail bag or grab bag, whatever you want to use. It's a spinoff of Ask Ben. It's your questions. Those all come from the Facebook page. So if you love this podcast and you want to contribute content to the podcast, the easiest way to do that would be to go to the Facebook page, which again is Ben Mallard Show on Facebook, and then on Twitter, which is what I use a lot during the show to get real time reaction from listeners.

We have the Muppet Militia that's on there with Earning the Great Old Pineer and then a bunch of muppets that started up. I don't know who's behind that, but it's pretty funny. Uh So that's Ben mav just my name there on Twitter and that's that's all. I'm a guestcon I guess you're not a Facebook guy. You're not allowed on their banned a couple of years ago, but you're still on the other play. Yeah, I'm on Twitter

at David J. Gascons. If you want to send me some d m s to be a guest on the on the podcast, you can do that shout out Terry over in the UK and then uh of course on Instagram at Dave gascon So yeah, and of course you're you're not gonna solicit women to send you d M s. Right, you're not doing that. Well, I mean they do that freely, don't need to beg for it, like guys in Ohio. But you know, wow, wow, wow wow. You know he's going to get the last word. You realize that now

he's got like a lifetime supply of golden tickets. He's just gonna call up and it's gonna be NonStop. It's gonna be nobody's listening at that time. Anyway, according to the numbers, many people and ratings are up on the radio show too. Ever, since we stopped talking about sports anyway. All right, listen, have a great day, whatever you do today. We got podcast every day of the week, so come back.

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