Patch Work

Ben Maller starts right now. That it does, you know, it's it's actually really like the sixth hour of the podcast right now as we begin to do this week, and there will be no magical tales of me pooping

my pants on this week's edition of the show. But it is the fifth hour available, as you know by now because you're listening to the podcast wherever you can get your podcast, the global reach of the I Heart podcast network, and we are here every week for at least one good hour, and during football season we are degenerate gambling losers and handicap every literally every game in the NFL regular season, unless I get sick and have

my gallbladder taken out, then we don't do that. But it is time to start a new here, and we have quite the beginning to mess around with because David Gascon has worked his magic yet again, known as Gagon on the internet. Here and this is a new record for you. Guess now, this is a full hour delay in recording the podcast. Congratulations. I think we might have actually have to say, like an hour one thirty four minutes. Yes, that's about hour and hour and thirty four minutes of delay.

And to paint the picture here, So I log in from the studio that I use into the central studio there and the we have a special podcast studio which is only really used for podcast and so I I do, like I always do, I log in regularly, and I hear so I'm like, oh boy, that sucks. You know, that's you can't really do a podcast with. So I tell guess Gun, I said, hey, it's all it's all funked up. You know something's wrong here? And uh and what did you tell me? Guess? Do you remember what

you told me? I said, exercise some patients. I said, you felt, well, whatever, I said, why don't you go tweet about it and actually quote me on it? I will do that, well, I will ask you. At least I had the courtesy unlike we'll get to that later. But unlike a guy I work with, Eddie Garcia, who broke the bubble of trust. I asked you, so I did not break the bubble of trust, and I gave you the green light. There's no surprise that he would

try to shop you from the knees from behind. But you know in different guys, so it is what, Well, that's a different story. You guys stay focused here. So anyway, just did okay? So I told you exercise some patients. I told you to switch the COMRAX, told me to reconnect, because of course you assumed it was my problem. God forbid it would be your problem. The lack of force I by you. I'm sorry. I'm not an engineer by trade.

So the fact that I had to bring four different engineers in here to get the fucking thing right, and it took us ninety four minutes, I would safely say that it wasn't on me. Consider the fact that I did. I believe it was Becaud. You shouldn't. You should have you should have predicted that this was going to happen, because there's a problem. Every week, there's some insignificant, irrelevant

thing that causes major problems. I know, and you'll cover this in your own studio during your regular Monday through Friday show as well, consider the fact that there's usually an arm, a leg, a letter, or trash that's in your studios. So I am Mr Sunshine, I don't talk about that. I do not. I learned from a program director, Bob Bennett, back in the day. One of my early program directors, Bow Bennett, taught me that you should never talk about what's wrong at the radio station. You should

only talk about what's working at the radio station. I've always followed that creed my entire life. And I love radio engineers because I've worked at even I've worked at Fox for a long time, I've worked at other places, and they all are cut out of the same cloth. There's like a certain personality where one becomes a radio technical engineer. They feel like snipers, right yeah, I mean they're crazy and they all have the kind of the

same personality. They they they all know all the things about Bob's and the you know, the Dow hickeys and the watching mccollits, and the gadgets and the gizmos and all that crap, and um, it was fascinating just imagining and you you actually took some photos you were giving photographic play by play as they were literally four four engineers to make sure this podcast is up. So hopefully people will enjoy the podcast. But it's like brain surgery, right,

you don't have just one doctor in there. You have about four or five different physicians in there, kind of going through the different parts of the body, the anatomy, the the brain itself. And that's the exactly what we had here in a in a studio which apparently had just dirt insteade of a patch that connected you to us, us to you. Yeah, so what we did is we we got to mop out and we were able to

scrub a dub dub and make that go away. So it's very exciting now that we've wasted a good solid five minutes on the fact that we couldn't get on to do the podcast because of some interference. Now we can actually do the podcast. I've decided today not to give a rundown, guess because you told me in podcasting you don't really need to give a rundown, just do it. Yeah,

that's true. I guess in certain podcasts wherever you are, I think you traditional to start off with, well, I had a great trip last night I did some ayahuasca or had some wine. Yes, yes, I killed the buffalo buffalo meats. Say it tastes really good? Let me tell you something. Yes. And I think the silver lining with all of this is that because the technical issues here, you were not allowed to patch through a guy from the East Coast on today. Oh that's right, Well that's

what you were referring to. Of course, the great Marcel in Brooklyn, who I'm convinced now that the Mallard Militia has decided that they are turning our show, that the Overnight Show into an episode of Punked and it's who can goof on Marcel the most? So, my man, Marcel, who I enjoy. I get a kick out of Marcel. People are starting to turn on him. He was voted the caller of the Year by the Mallard militia. In a democracy, the people voted for Marcel to be the

call of the year. And so he calls me up the other night and out of the blue says, uh, you know, breaking news. I'll be co hosting the Fifth Hour podcast on Friday with Ben Maller. So where is he? Guess on where is Marcell? Why is Marcel not here. Well, thankfully, we don't cord the podcast on Fridays. We publish on Fridays. I thought we recorded this in real time. I thought we did this on Friday. We don't know. We don't know. Sometimes we do it on Monday, depending on your schedule. No,

we've never done it on Monday. We've on Sunday or Saturday or Tuesday. We have done it on Wednesday. But you have you forced me to adjust my schedule to kin here to yours and your bedroutine. Yes, yes, a total diva. I am the Beyonce Fox Sports Radio to accommodate my schedule, Yes, very difficult because normally the way this works is the producer of the podcast, we go around that person's schedule. That's normally how these things work. Yes, different producers are the ones that tend to put on

the show for the host. You know this point well, yes, yes, from Sin to Salvation clearly. But as far as Marcela is concerned, I don't know which one of you knuckleheads in the mile of Militia told him that he would be co hosting the podcast. We have yet to put anyone on. I've tried, I've asked I've said, hey, Gascon, I've got a whole you know, roll the decks of people on my iPhone. I can call up people I've

met over the years, old players, coaches, media people. We can put them on here and we can, you know, just do that as the podcast and do an interview. We could put callers on. We can have Chris and Houston come on and do a segment. We could you know, go with the marked a full name guy and his neurosis and all that. And you've shot me down every time. No, no, no, no, no. I yeah, that's a select group of people I'd love to have on as a guest. That includes Kenny Albert,

Chris Myers. Uh, those are two to come to my mind initially. That's right. Guesscon's idea is to use this podcast as a vehicle to help enhance his standing media are standing. I'm fine, I'm sitting. I'm not even standing in media. I'm I'm not mainstream. I'm fine not being mainstream. Now. I wouldn't mind it nice TV I pportunity, because that would be okay. But right now I'm very happy just being in the shadows, hiding out in the darkness of

the overnight. Now, you're not some dark night that comes and saves people at night. I am. I saved people from insomnia, Bruce Wayne during the day, and that's that's not I am, no, no, no, listen uh the audio superhero. Seriously, people are depressed. You don't understand who's listening to the

radio I do. You can't handle the overnight. You've got people that are depressed, they're not happy with their job, they've got medical problems going on, they got all kinds of things that bring them to the show, and that we enlighten them and they get a couple of less I think you're one of those people that's on social media now and trying to create an anxiety about the coronavirus.

And so you just mentioned with the amount of depression and sickness and flu and all these bad things that are happening, you love negative radio because positive radio does not resonate. So therefore, the people I do chime in. All you do is you continue to salt on the wounds of the First of all, the whole point of any media is to get a reaction out of people. I think that's the reason that this exists. And if you're if people don't react, they don't watch or listen.

So that's obvious human nature is if you know the plane lands, it's not a story. If the plane doesn't land, it's philm you know, film at eleven, we'll have the details. And so that's how it's always worked. But that that's not my problem. That's that's the problem of whoever designed human beings, These weird cells that we all are. That's how it all, you know. And I love these guys. There's always one one douche bag in the back of the room. There's well, you know, you're too negative, you

should be more positive. And uh, of course this person is the is the the village idiot, if you will, in the room. But as far as I want to go back to Marcel here because he is he thinks he's Edward R. Murrow, breaking new US. You know, Walter Cronkite, old school TV guy back in the day. Hear in reality, he's a mix of Brian Williams and Jason Blair, is what he is. It's it's just fascinating. He he reported h that George Washington was killed Marcel did by Charlie Brown.

That was one of his reports. Apparently he's never heard of George Washington or Charlie Brown, and he reported the most famous one from our guy, the Milkman in Colorado, that the Titanic had just hit an iceberg. So the first that the George Washington story came from Robin Vegas. The Titanic one came from our friend in Colorado. I do not know who set Marcel up saying he was going to be a guest on the podcast. But Marcel, I'm sorry you're not on the podcast, and it's not

my fault. I advocated for you. I wanted you to be on the podcast, but guesstcons a douche bag over there and he would not allow you. I just think that we have limited time on this kind of a platform, especially when it gets condensed because of technical difficulties, and so I think we need to maximize it with good quality material as opposed to anything of that sort. Yeah, all right, Uh, just to look back at last week, I think the podcast did pretty well, considering most of

it was talking about shitting. Yeah, the bulk of the questions I got from people that liked the podcasts or like, what the funk was he thinking keeping his underwear? Yeah? People were very disturbed that I kept the soiled underwear and was bothered by this, that this is problematic and I have some kind of addiction to feces or something like that, and no, I don't. I watched them. They're fine. Now.

That transport was a bit of an issue, but you know, once you got through the transport stage, you're all right. I was a little caught off guard that your wife actually would have come to the defense of the Costco employee as opposed to you when you were sampling well for example, listening, Uh, let me tell you something about the wife. Okay, she is not in the sample game. Okay, she's not. She doesn't understand the sample game. She's on this like gluten free diet. She can't eat ninety of

the samples at Costco. And what's happened When I go to Costco with my wife, she she shops and I stock the samples. That's what I do. I am on the prowl for those little mini hot dogs and and tacos and all those things. That's what I mean, that's where I am. So she doesn't even know what's going on with the sample game. She does not, which is more the reason why I am just perplexed that she would come to the aid of someone providing you with free samples and then taking a shot at you as

opposed to you. That's that's blood right there. Man. Well, not see, she wouldn't because, like I said, she wouldn't be around me while I'm doing the samples. She would be unaware of what's going on. I understand that. But hypothetically speaking, she did say, hey, I would come to her defense and not bends. Yeah, but she doesn't understand the tone of that angry old woman the Costco that asked me to buy the product. And uh, you know, I I like the Costco sample people. They don't actually

work for Costco. They subcontract that out, so they're they're not Costco employees, but they're certainly not a protected class. They're not untouchable at all. Who made them a sacred cow? I mean through your job. It doesn't mean just keep It shouldn't matter how many samples people take, because you gotta keep putting them out anyway. That's exact, you put

them out all day. Now. The only reason I thought for a second of why she would come to her defense and not yours is probably because she knows that you're frugal, and it took you twenty years to remodel the kitchen catastrophe to have that done, so that could be one reason. Well, I know you like to lavish her with praise, and I don't know why you were choosing to do this right now. On the podcast, she hates you, by the way. She always says, why do

you do the podcast with Gascon? Can't you find somebody else? She she specifically has said, I'm the beacon of light in your life outside of her, and I provide energy. It's a dark light. Apparently it's a very dark play. That's fine. That's where you're you realize. I know you're a narcissist at all, but you are not held in the same reverence that you think you're held in. Well you're not. You have a very high opinion of yourself, That's true. Somebody does have to, might I point out?

And I don't know if I should say this on the podcast or not, but I did have a brief conversation with the sheriff, all right, with the chief. Let me tell you something. He agrees with the Mallard militia that Gascon his kid, uh bad park needs to be punished. In fact, I don't know if I should quot him or not, but he said he might have to pull out his ticket book about that. That'd be actually amazing if he can he can do that. You know, he a month ago, he gave me some old scripts that

he was a part of back in the day. Do you remember, so my dad showed me some old My dad's a pack rat, So he showed me some old television scripts that he was actually a part of. He had some creative content that was that's used, and so he got credit for that with those, the initial pilot and a couple of the episodes as well, because he worked with you know, Steven Bocho back in the day

and a couple of these other guys. Once you know, people are obviously creating these these uh, these television shows that are that are based on you know, cops and conflict and whatnot. So, um, so yeah, you can give me, you can give me what the chief did say, but I will counter that with this. I actually received an email, um that was targeted for you that I it came to my possession. It said, first, let me say you

disclaimer disclaimer, disclaimer. Now I'm sure this is gonna be very impressive and a remarkable email and put you in the finest light. Uh. The if you were to do a you know, baskets, like in one basket you have the negative email about Gascon, and in the other basket you have the positive. The positive. The negative outweighs the positive roughly two one. But this, this fan of yours specifically said. First, let me say you guys are podcast

gold listen every week without fail. Been listening to Ben for as long as he's been on the radio, lying and then points out and g is money in caps as a co host. I hope he continue to get this done. So, I mean, that's that's great. You gotta read the last line there. I'm looking at the email right now. Have the inbox up it sound It's signed John Gascon. So I guess that's a cousin of yours. Has a cousin John Gascon? Is that right? John? And my family? Oh no, it's that guy running for the

l A district attorney, right, George George. Related to George, people have been at My wife asked me any relations George Gascon? Not at all, because that guy's like anti police, right Georgia Gessco. He's San Francisco, so of course they probably wants people shipping on the streets all over the place. That's what they do in San Francisco, right, Yeah, it's pretty much San Francisco. They do it in l A, too, So yeah, the entire West coast. There's a streak of

brown from Seattle all the way to San Diego. Be sure to catch live editions of the Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Al Right, so I wanted to mention I told this story briefly on the radio, but I didn't get into detail. And some guys said, hey, can you please on the podcast enlighten us on the club what happened at the ballet

because everyone loves a good ballet story. So years ago, when I was doing local radio, and I've told a little bit of this story. I don't know if I've got into the great detail, but we we I was doing a nighttime show in l A. And our sales department thought, well, we'll just send these yahoo's anywhere, and so we were doing remote broadcas asked, which everyone in

radio hates everybody. They'll say that. They might lie and say they like them, but they hate them because you go out there to some restaurant or when you do local radio and you do it a night. Back in those days, you would go to a restaurant's bars, uh you name it businesses, and you would broadcast. You'd set up a little card table and you do the show, uh and people would come by and stare at you like you're a monkey in a cage. Uh, and they

would look at you and all that and so. But I used to do this like for for the first few years of my career as a talk show host. Three usually three nights a week, Monday night football we would do something. Then we do something Thursday and Friday, because those were the nights that we could get people to pay to have us come through the radio show.

And one of the people they got to pay was a strip club in l a And this guy that ran the strip club said, Hey, you know what we're gonna do is we're gonna open up a sports bar in the back of the strip club. All right, that's what we're gonna do, and it's gonna be wonderful, and we want to get guys who like sports and you know, and strippers to come down right, have a good time, knock yourself out. So so anyway, so we get hired to do the show from the sports bar in the back,

and this thing had just opened. Nobody knew about it. You had to walk past the strip club to get into this place. The funny, that's the funniest thing, right. They wanted to get people to bring like their families to come have a nice to Philly cheese steak and watch a game, but you had to like bring the wife and the kids past the entrance of the strip club. But anyway, we we did that. The only people in

there were the ballet dancers. They were on break and they to get away from the creepy guys in the club, they would walk down to the sports bar and hang out. So we're doing the show and the audience is filled with strippers on break and the bartenders on break, right, And so then the guy's like he's getting upset because there's not a lot of people there, and he's like, hey,

the guy that ran the place comes up. I remember he came up to me and I was doing the show with Dave Smith, and he says, hey, can you know, I think you should interview these ladies. You know, this is the largest gentleman's club in the Los Angeles San Fernando Valley. I believe is that that that was their their title back in the back in the day. So it just interview the strippers, you know, because that guys will hear a woman's voice, they get all excited. They

want to come down and see the ladies. Uh and so okay, So we go up to the to the dancers, the ballet and the strippers, like, hey, can we put you on the radio? Like eight of the they were like ten of them. They were shuffling in and out. Eight of the ten refused because they all gave us some version of hey, I you know, I'm just doing this. I'm going to U C l A. And I'm just doing this for a little extra money. Nobody knows I'm here.

I don't want to talk on the radio because somebody might recognize my voice that kind of stuff, or you know, this is just my part time job. I have another job. I'm a respected member of the community, you know. But they were like like complete horrorsh women that love talking, but everyone else they didn't want to talk. And I remember that. And the other thing I remember is that after and I was single at the time, and we would go into the ballet after we got done doing

the show and they'd let us in. And one time I went in there with a TV guy that had been working at our radio station, and we walked in there and the owner of the strip club was so excited to see us. He came. He came running over so excited that we're hanging out at his ballet here watching the every the activity, the booby shaking, all this. So so he comes up to us. He's very guys and shakes are handing. Oh man, I'm so happy you

guys are here. A big fan all of stuff. He then proceeds to hand me a couple of vouchers to get into the establishment next time, you know, free passes or whatever and free drink cards and uh. He then hands the TV guy a V I P Gold card, So everything is for every time he comes for the you know, for like for life. I was so pissed. I was like, what an asshole? The memories, Wow, what

what time of the day was it? I know, as night, but is it like eleven o'clock twelve o'clock one o'clock because you're a single then, so yeah, so we would do the show from that show at night. I think was it was seven to midnight, and it was seven to eleven for a stretch, and then I think eventually it became like seven to ten, but for a long time it was seven to midnight. So it was a five hour monstrosity and it was all live. The none of it was on tape. I know a lot of

these guys taped their stuff, but this was completely live. Now, did you were your frequent visitor of the ballet after that? I was not? Um, and I you know, I'm not. I mean, I don't hate the Ballet. I'll go back in the day I used to go with with guys,

you know, friends of mine would go out. But I it's kind of like the equivalent of you would like a nice cheese burger and you go and look at a cheeseburgers, spin around, you know, and just touch your your teeth, but you can't actually bite into you know what I mean. It's like going to a steakhouse and walking in smelling everything and then having a walk out. Yeah, I mean, and you know I get it. I understand,

you know, otherwise it becomes a worehouse. But but you know it's like, you know, it's just like really a waste. It's a lot of more. You can't go in there and not spend a good chunk of money. Have you ever spent a good chunk of money inside of a ballet? Uh? Not my money? I have one time I got some funny money to play with, but that wasn't my money. That was they said, here, you're gonna knock yourself out.

But that was you know wild That was in Vegas actually, and that was a guy that was a fan of the show that that hooked us up. What about you, gus On? You a big guy, You're a big star. I mean, and you know, I was doing another ballet story. This is great. This place isn't around anymore the Hollywood Tropicana, remember I don't probably don't remember that. I do not. So I was leaving in Holly It at the time, and this was right near the one oh one freeway.

I think it's like a warehouse or something like that. It's not far away from uh for those that live in the Los Angeles area that Tommy's in Hollywood, which is on the opposite side. It's it's in that general area anyway, so i'm i'm, I'm going with my buddies. There were hanging outcause I live in Hollywood and there were several TV stations that were just down the block l A t V, I think the CBS station, the ABC station had at that time, they had their offices

just down the street. It was hilarious because between the six o'clock news and the eleven o'clock news, we saw several of the anchors who walked over to kill the time between newscasts into the Hollywood Tropicana. It was, and that reminds me of of a great story and you would you would know exactly who this is, but I will not. I want to punt the name any anywhere

near you. Um. One of my first internships was what they local television station here in Los Angeles when I was down at San Diego State and it was during

the summertime and I got off of a shift. I don't know if you remember back in the day with with how those internships worked, but oftentimes if you were in production, you'd be required a log you'd be logging game tape of time codes, so like listen the Dodgers and the Angels were playing, and you wanted to record a highlight, well, you had a log from when that sequence started to when it ended. So I did that for eight hours a day, three or four days during

the week during the summertime. One off day, a Saturday night, I went with some Boddy's to uh to a Hamburger spot off the freeway. It's on the way towards Orange County, and across the street from it was a ballet and lo and behold, a giant purple bus rolled up with a couple prominent sportscasters and uh and yeah, and right behind them as they got off, they were still in

their suits from their from their shows. Right when they got off, all of a sudden, behind them was a laundry list of of professional dancers that that accompany them inside and out. And really, and who is this? You want to name some names? So I don't. I said that. I said that two minutes ago. I thank you for listening, but just maybe you've changed your mind. I have not. I would not do that. So this is like a

Jerry Jones party bus and he's having a good time. Yeah. Absolutely, So needless to say, we all walked in together and I said, hey, I saw you a couple of hours ago, and so nice to see you outside of the work environment. That reminds that reminds me of another time. Um, we were doing a remote at there's this the sports bar in Santa Monica and we were you know, five hours just it was crazy. Um, And we're hanging out in

Santa Monica doing this thing. And at the near the end of the show, I go over to the bar area and I see someone I recognize who was a big sports anchor at one of the TV city Yeah. Again, he's all about TV people I've known. So this guy, this guy is a TV anchor, like a sportscaster in l A who is completely ship faced drunk at the bar. Right. Just I mean he's like probably shipping his pants and

the whole thing. It's so so Anyway, he sees me, and I see him, and he even though he is completely intoxicated, right, I mean, this guy is not just drunk, there's this not He is so boozed up and schnockered that it's amazing he can even breathe at this point. Right. So, but he sees me, and this drunken stupor he's mallard if you mentioned anything about this, so the radio, I have you killed? That's good? Now who was this again? Oh, I'll tell you in the sixth hour, which I think

this is now the sixth hour. But I love that booze induced anger, you know, I love that. And we've talked about before. And I studied as I do the show at night during the weekend and really not so much during the week because I think most people during the week are working, you know, factory jobs, driving trucks, police officers, whatever, they've got jobs or not complete drunks.

But I did the weekend overnight. It was nothing but alcoholics that we're calling me up NonStop, right, just feeling no pain and all that stuff and seeing the pink spiders whatever you want to say. So so I know there's like, there's four types of drunks. Do you know the four types of drunks, guest guard, we went over us once. I don't you don't remember. It's like the pleasant or the the Hemmingway, which is the same whether they're drunk or not drunk. That's the Hemingway. Drunk, there's

the Mary Poppins. They're the ones that get nicer and happier. They're the ones that are typically a schmuck, and then they have a couple of pops and they're hugging you and then oh I love you. So then there's the nutty professor who becomes more social. Now I generally am the nutty professor. I don't become sweeter and happier, but I am more open to talk when I have a

couple of pops. And then there's the Mr Hyde, which is what that TV guy I just reference was where you become hostile and you want to fight everyone when you have a couple of shots of booze. Yeah. I would imagine that guy that probably went up to you was probably like five ft seven, five ft eight top off to so, oh yeah, they're all they're not that five Yeah, I mean I would have I would have just smashed them. I just would have. It would have been over anyway. All I do it. I got grab bag.

You have something else I do? Um, And I gotta get your opinion on this too. Um. I went to a went to a convention last week. I know that we had talked about possibly, you know, getting you out to to uh Goodwin Field for cal State Fullerton and Tulane. Uh, you said you want to participate in the extravaganzas, so you missed some good baseball are Well what what did I actually say? Uh? You said, no, I don't want to do ship with you if it's free. Yes, yes, I said I. I said, the free pro bono work

that I do stops at this podcast. Yeah, that's exactly what you said, so exactly. So I bring that up because this prior to me going to those three games to call him. I went to the Anaheim Convention Center for the first time. Oh, I used to hang out there. I watched when I was a kid. That's the first place I ever saw a professional wrestling. Really, yes, it was. I don't know if it's better now. I also covered

a Clipper game. The Clippers played the Utah Jazz were during the l A Riots and they couldn't play at the Sports Arena, so they moved moved a game. I think it was only one game, but they moved it to the Anaheim Convention Center. Okay, this is my first time, so you'll you'll know exactly what I mean by this. Then, Um, I went to an event They're called dream Hack and it's basically that a story about your career kind of yes, yeah, pretty much. But ben I, it's a it's an e

sports gaming convention that was for seventy two hours. And I say seventy two hours because that's exactly what it is. It didn't stop. It went from uh Friday morning until Sunday night, and they didn't close the doors for anyone that was involved in this. But you go to the top floor the of these this convention and there's different rooms that have like independent video games. They have Fortnite that was there. They had Madden that was there, they

had NHL that was there. Uh, they had a bunch of games, Call of Duty, all this stuff that was going on, but different tents for all these different things. It was almost like Super Bowl week for the media. And then ben I go downstairs underneath to the second floor and this was like something out of the Matrix

I ship you not. The entire room was black. It was a giant auditorium, but then you see green lights everywhere with computer monitors and gaming consoles and it was just kids and adults everywhere locked into a game playing video games like that was it. And then there was you were in a video game convention. But I know, but they were talking about launching new games and some of the material that they use, they use it for competitions and people were winning money. But like I kid

you not, there were parents. I I assume you went to this because you you were looking to gain something out of it? Did you gain employment? I gained some some information and I gained some contacts. I do a lot of networking and so rubbing some rubbing, some elbows, shaking some hands, hopefully not contracting the coronavirus. I did a little bit of that. Then I'm just I'm amazed. Can say I am not opposed to being the Joe Rogan of the video game business and interviewing the guys

right after they get done playing the video game. But how about this, though, what about the people that dress up as characters like they were they had you talking about like the furries, No, they were there was. They have like it's called costplay, but basically women and men will dress up as video game characters and then play

that game in that costume on site. So if you go back to like like there would be like imagine playing tomb Raider and someone next to you is Laura Croft, like she's decked out with some Daisy Duke shorts and a short top and you know, fake pistol and her and her holster, or you know, guys playing Street Fighter is like Kennan Ryu all this stuff. They were people dressed up as video game characters. It was just surreal.

And then it's kind of like you. I mean, you go in there and you dress up like Howard's Stern one day, your hero Colin Cowherd the next day. Little dress up which had calling had some great takes earlier this week, and I'm sure you share those to you and I think we should talk about those at one

point during this podcast. Yeah. Absolutely. But it was just amazing how in this area alone to be kids locked into playing video games and on the outside area that their parents just sitting down waiting and watching their their kids play. Yeah. Man, I think it's great. You know, when I was a kid, I'm of the generation where you know, when you played video games and they started becoming really cool when I was a kid, and they're

amazing now. They're like next level. I had like Duck Hunt and uh Super Mario Brothers, Mario Kart, the original Mario kart games like that. But the games today are so much better. But every parent when I was a kids, oh yeah, you're not gonna do it, and you're gonna

be a loser if you play video games. And I remember we had a guy in the mallar Militia from Boston who's I think eighteen years old, and he is a professional video game player and he's making I think he's making over a million dollars a hear, making more than me, a lot more than me. And he they moved him to l A, to some gaming house and he just plays video games for you know, ten hours

a day or whatever. We'll see. That's why I went out there because you look at a lot of the independent game manufacturers and part of the reason is is because they always need voiceover talent for characters for narration, and uh, you know that's why I had gone and

talked to some people and filming things out. And yeah, it's just amazing to me that we spent so much time back in the day with it's like Tech Mobile or Double Dribble or Blades of Steel or Mike Tyson's Punch Out and then obviously to Madden and then will be the show. And yeah, now these kids are making you know, five six seven figures annually just by staying indoors. Not I don't know if you're down with that. I don't know if you would be comfortable with that. Um,

I hate going outside. I don't like going outside at all. I mean, occasionally I'll go to feed ducks because I'm an old Asian man and I like feeding ducks. But other than that, no, fair enough. Well do you like that cliche that I the stereotype that I yeah, I know, Yeah, I got it, I got all right, let's go to grab back. We have actual questions from actual listeners. Nothing from Marcela, right, I do not believe. Okay, there's any compliments from from many of the listeners. We'll get to that.

We'll get to that. We'll get to that. Here's one from Balls fan Jimmy and Middle Tennessee. He says, Ben, did you panic when you ship your pants? Twenty minutes before the show? I have listened to the pot That podcast every night this week and I still laugh. That is my warm up until the overnight show comes on. But that Jimmy really loves hearing about my demise. I didn't really panic because I mean, I figured the worst case scenario is I'll just I'll do the commando thing.

And I mean because I knew that I've had the gall bladder out since last November. And usually once I get the ships, I'm that's it. I'm good. I just have to go one time and then that's it. It It doesn't usually kick back in. But I didn't really panic. You should have the fact that you had to go to the fourth floor and Ralph led to your demise was a thing of beauty. I think that's the best

part about all of that. Well, again, the worst part for me was I turned the corner and I that's like a running back at the twenty yard line and you have nothing but open field in front of you, and you see the end zone, the goal line, and before you can even get there, you fumble the ball out of bounds. You know. It's that kind of thing. R J writes and says, what meal can you cook the best? None J? Well, listen, I make an amazing pizza,

Philly cheese steaks with pizza. I would say the top three the Philly cheese steak, the pizza, and Fahita's Love the fahita. I chopped that chicken up, put the bell peppers in their little garlic on top, throw some other things in wonderful apps. I make the great I I I got to open a Mexican restaurant just to serve fajitas. No, yeah, you're interesting. No, you're You're cooking is very sleazy. My cooking is legendary. No it's not. You don't cook for

the masks as you cook for yourself. Because you're the only person that would eat that ship. I'd like you to know that my wife eats that. Most of that does. Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekday said two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. Jim from Kentucky writes, you don't cook anything. Guess you know said the dog food that you serve up. I guess Gon's idea of cooking is a hungry man's idea of

set you a picture on Monday night. And do you remember what you said to me that is so west of the four oh five cooking right there? Oh yeah, because it was just a plate of it. It was disgusting. It was it was jackfruit that I had broiled fruit. The only people you need jackfruit or jackasses. No, no, no, don't don't be hating on my food. I'm not hating on your food. I'm just pointing out I'm a man of the people. I I represent the majority. You're in

the minority. You're in the elitist west of the fours. This took time to prep, which I did much like what I do on radio and television. Um, I do a lot of Let me, let me get my little violin out. Can I get my little tiny violin out here? You could do that. I chopped up green peppers. Are bell peppers? Excuse me? I had onions. I had tomatoes at cilantro. I had some salsa. This thing was, This thing was a plus. You would have eaten it, for sure. I know your wife would have saying my praises at me.

Those are just one of many things that I can cook. And I think I think you need to take note because you've done a great job over the last six seven months of losing weight. I think this will put you over the top. Yeah, no, I'm good. See what I'm doing is the inter minute fasting. And you don't have to eat that crap and you can still lose weight. That's that's fine, because then you can eat like ship and then ship. You're on yourself. Why you go to I didn't ship because of how I was eating. I

ship because of because you know everything. Listen, Dr Gascon, you dummy, let me explain something to you. Okay, when you have you don't understand this because I'm in a special class, all right, protected class. I should get a manicap placker because I don't have my gall bladder anymore.

But let me let me explain, all right, it doesn't matter when when you fast and have your gall bladder out, you could literally eat the healthiest dish in the world of nothing but vegetables, and you were still going to have to ship your pants or as quickly as possible, because within half an hour to an hour, it hits you. I'm telling you, I I speak from experience, a gym from Kentucky. Right, since says, two years ago, my wife also had a gall bladder room. See that I am

bringing in the gall bladder removed group of the audience. Uh. And then he says, since I have gone sixty I have gone sixty one and a thirty mile zone to avoid an unromantic situations. Apparently his wife had the same thing I had happened. And then he says, what's the worst case scenario? You will break a law for the unavoidable inevitable. Uh So, I think what he's asking here is like, what laws would you break to avoid shitting in your pants? Yeah? Um, well, I would like run through.

I would treat red lights like stop signs. Um, you know at night, you know you can do that at night. During the day, you really can't do that. You get smashed. That's I mean, we're in l A. You can do this in l A and San Francisco with no regard. Oh what people do? Yeah right, people do go through and but but ye know, I think that's about it. I mean we go through some red lights. Obviously, speeding does it work like if you're speeding to the hospital?

You know that cliche and Hollywood movies, the TV or movie trope where the guys driving to take his pregnant wife to the hospital and he gets pulled over and the police are no, I'm not gonna give you a ticket, I'll give you an escort to the hospital. Don't actually happen in real life? Or is that just than the movies? You know what? For the sake of of this podcast. I hope we can be in the same general facinity

when this happens to you. It could be in the car and something can bad can happen to you, and I need to hit the gas. I'll tell you what, when you pay off the Super Bowl bet that you lost and buy me Titos tacos. And if I'm an hour away from where I need to be, you can watch fast going into that. You can you can be there. That bet was for for race day at Santa Anita. I changed it to Tito's Tacos after the fact. I

changed it to Tito's Tacos. That's embarrassing, all right, But I would like to go to the track, but you're always working the day that works to go to the track. I guess maybe next next week we can maybe go to the go to the track. We can figure it out. Uh. Let's see. Brian from north Bridge, Massachusetts rights and he says, Ben, I am wondering how no talent, thin skin bad at parking do she mcdouche bag gascon can even keep job in radio? Your thoughts, well, it's easy, it's uh. He

asked for my thoughts, not your thoughts. Well he should ask for my thoughts. Well, you have photos of people with farm animals, isn't that how you had I wouldn't be here with you big dogs and peanut butter. Yes, no, oh boy. Uh here's the one from Rick in Beantown in Boston. He says, have you ever been doing Asian massage parlor? Uh? No, I have not, Rick, Um not gotten to that particular moment in my life. I'm not looking down on other people, but I don't. I don't

really like strangers like massaging me. I know that's not really a real massage that it's more like a tug and rub situation. But I we had a sponsor years ago. There was this Dace bab You mentioned a Dace Bass sponsoring a sports radio show. Doesn't seem like the target demographic, but they were trying to get guys if they get the male demo and they'd come to the day spots

or whatever. Um, so they kept. They really were badgering me to get a massage like a full like they wanted to show how they were so proud of their business. They wanted to show me how great these massages are. And I would never allow him to do it. Because I'm like, I don't watch some weird dode touching my you know whatever. So I never did it. But that was just like a regular massage. But the furthest I've gone with my wife when she's getting the many and

the petty, I'll have my toes tickled. That's about it. What about the time massage places where they have they do like hands and feet and then your scalp. Yeah, no, I do don't think he's talking about that. I think we just talking about I know I've never been. Have you been to those? Yeah, they have a bunch of those, and like, you know, what's the five clothes? Do you ask for the special menu? No, I do not ask

you special menu. No, but I've I've gone with females in the past that have taken me and they rave about it. And then yeah, it's always amazing. You have a all little woman that's five ft one five ft two, like stepping on your back and kneeing you and grinding on your and your muscles and getting out the kings and the knots and all that stuff. So yeah, it's for bucks. It's a deal, man. I'm good, Um, I'm good. Carlos In Houston writes, and he says, what is both

of your guys favorite types of beer and alcohol? Uh? From cause? What Carlos. I've become a bit of a teetotaler in recent years, but back in the day, I would pretty much drink any beer. Lately, I I only drink a couple of times a year, and I am such a lightweight. My favorite beer is root beer beer because it tastes like root beer, and it's got a high alcohol content, higher than normal beer, and it's filled

with sugar, and it's delicious and wonderful. It's not what's it called, not your father's or not your neighbors or something like that, grandfather's I don't remember exactly what it's goes something along those lines, and it's it's wonderful. Well, you're a big drinker. You like high end alcohol. I do, but I like whiskey, so I like McCallan like whiskey Scotch. My favorite beer. Actually, one of my sisters introduced me

to um. It's by a company that's based out in Florida, and I don't know the exact pronunciation for it, but it's called I call it, or she calls it Jily and it's this. It's this pale ale and ben. It tastes delicious. It's an Indian pale l and I believe it's seven two two percent or seven point five. But I went to a hotel that was down there, so my sisters showed me around town and the bartender had it. He was showcasing it for a bunch of other people.

My sister says, you don't want that beer, and I said why, and she said, because it's so strong that I have a couple of them. You're on your ass. And so I asked the bartender. I was like, hey, is this true? And he's like, I actually had three of them last night, and I had a bad hangover this morning, and I had it and it was delicious. It's an Indian pale ale. It's in a green can, so it almost looks like, I don't know, like not like squirt um, but it's like a green can, green

and yellow can. It tastes good. It's it's a delicious beer. It's not filling, but circling all the way back. I like McCallen, like McCallen twelve account fifteen. The double castles are always good. I don't get in that mode anymore of drinking a lot. So most of my friends are all married and boring and all that ship. So yeah, I gotta pro tip for you. If you ever go out with Gascon and you offer to buy a round

of drinks, don't do it. We me and the wife are still trying to pay off the booze that he asked for at a club in Hollywood. First of all, you know, typically I know you don't understand social graces. No, no, I don't say. First, I'm not done when somebody offers to buy a round of drinks, if you don't ask for the most expensive drink at the bar, because if

you do, you're a schmuck. And that's exactly what you did. Know, Okay, it's alcohol and any kind of liquor at a bar or lounge these days is usually about fifteen and sixteen dollars. That's exactly what I did. And for the record, I didn't care what I bought. You guys, I didn't look at the price tag. I'm not frugal like you. I don't give a ship. It's just it's just money. It's just just money. Listen, you say that I got you know, I just got a twenty dollar debt on a new kitchen.

That's your problem, not mine, well exactly and so, but you made it my problem because the most expensive goddamn drink at the fucking bar. Oh I definitely did not. If you look up McCallan twelve on a menu in a bar or a lounge, you'll see that it's the lead price. I mean, what a douchebag you even know what that is? Of course, all right, Dan, and call shut up Dan, and Kalamazoo rites and says, who's gonna replace gag On when he gets the coronavirus? And can

that happen soon? Also, how's the kitchen coming along? Well, Dan, the kitchen's almost done. A fucking loser, we have we have the kitchen sink in um where there was a setback with the the back splash. But hopefully it'll be completely finished. I thought it was already been done. But hopefully by next week, maybe even by the end of

this weekend, it'll be done. Jianna in Salt Lakes. As I listened to both podcasts daily, I am not a fan of Gascon, but Gascon Janna says that she says that he seems like less of a douche tool than Cooper. Loop says, this is not a question, just an opinion, but I appreciate the both shows. All right, Well, thank you Janet, very guide. You you able you were able to attack both Gascon and Coop at the same time. Great job, Thanks for your valuable opinion. Thanks for your

contribution by clicking on this for sixties seconds. Nice nice woman there in Salt like all right, Jason and Rocky Mount writes in Rocky Mount, Virginie says, been for both of you. Have you ever been hornswaggled into trying a new food and regretted it? Of course pre gallbladder removed. Yeah, I don't usually try new foods. I'm at the age where I pretty much know exactly what I like and

very rarely, very rarely will I try some new things. Occasionally, my wife will get me to try something like call a flower or some weird crap like that that I'll just, you know, say it's disgusting, But but normally no. Um. I am a creature of habit, and I've gotten to the age where I know what tastes good and what doesn't taste good, and I pretty much stay in my lane.

As they say, what do I guess? Gon, of course, you're an elitist West of the four h five guy, so you probably try all kinds of new foods and like to brag your friends about all the new things you're trying because you're so woke. I'm definitely not woke. I uh, this is years ago, but I'd gone on a date and this congratulations. Was it with a woman? Yeah, it was with a woman. Um she was a big seafood type of a woman, and she recommended I try squid. Not a fan of it. I actually like nearly threw

up it was it was that bad, you think. I mean, I I look at squid as that like the texture of it, and I want no part of that, of course, but I kind of like to try everything once in life, so I didn't reject everything, really well, nearly every You can take that to the extreme, guest guys, well, of course, I mean I'm not gonna flying it. I'm not gonna

be flying first class to China anytime soon. So alright, moving on brief from the o C. I think you know this person says, if you had a choice of ranch being illegal or guess I'm not being able to park in the structure ever again, so you'd have to park on the street like the interns do. Which would you choose this by the one of our former interns, guest and let's see the the answers. I'd rather have guest On park out on the street so his car can get broken into. Again. That's that's what I would

like to see happen. Are uh and make ranch illegal from the shores of Maine all the way to Hawaii and Alaska everywhere in between. App So about that though, That's that's what she remembers from her internship, is that she had to park on the street. Concern the fact that you don't park down the street next to the studio at the park blocks down from the studio. In order to get here as an interview, you have to cross several major streets with a bunch of drunk drivers

running around. It's just good time. Even part time employees had to park down the street from the studio, which is absurd. But yeah, I want to point out that this was a big accomplishment, Like I felt like I had arrived at Fox Sports Radio because I originally had to park in that parking lot where you walked out of the building, walk down a block, across the street, crossed another street, walk down three more blocks, and then you got to the parking lot and um, but then

they finally gave me the parking in the main building. Yeah, it was like, well now I've arrived. Listen. I don't really appreciate the fan that breefe sucking up to you. I know that you're a big fan of hers, and she's a big fan of mine, but I really don't know you're a big fan of hers based on your Instagram. I mean, it's see that the follow her on there? What's that? Colleagues? I talked to everybody in Turns part time from time right now that Bree puts up with you.

But she wanted an intern on the show, on our show, but what not allowed because we do an overnight show. No interns allowed. Unfortunately, she'd probably get here a little too early, probably, Yes, you get it's a bad look when the intern gets there before the producers. It's uh. Then she'd end up like producing the show. And oh it's funny, all right, Mark and Ottawa writes, and he says, if you had to pick one, which would it be?

Number one? Getting kicked in the nuts one time. Number two getting plunged in the face twice, or number three drinking half a gallon with delicious ranch dressing. All right, this one's easy. I got a pretty big face and a pretty powerful face, so I wouldn't mind being punched in the face a couple of times. I think that would be fine. I would love to see one of

those Russian slap competitions. Oh yeah, yeah, that would be I'd be fine with that if you want to slap me a couple of times, if it meant not having to eat ranch dressing, sure, all right, Henry writes, and Henry says, has soccer officially passed hockey as the fourth mainstream sport in the US? Absolutely not, Henry. Stop Stop these people with with the soccer For the last fifty years in America and probably before that, they have been getting on the bully pulpit there, and uh, what's the

word I'm looking for preaching? I don't know if that's who are prosthetizing. Is that the word prosthetizing? I think that's the word. They have been saying that soccer is gonna pass everything by, and it's it's bullshit. It's you know, soccer is Obviously the MLS does pretty well, but it's still a niche sport in the United States. It is uh and you know it soccer is it? It's hey when people wrap themselves in the flag every four years for the World Cup only only for the women, well yeah,

the men don't even qualify. But it's horrific. But I mean that euro Cup is fun. But when you watch soccer in the United States and then you take the time to watch the English Premier League, but it's like sitting in a in a toy camera and then getting into a ferrari. These are just different, different animals. And I think a better analogy, just to touch up your work would be like comparing an A a F game to an NFL game. Yeah, are watching the NBA versus the w n B A. Well you you like the

w n B A. No, I don't. But that's that's the idea here, is that the level of Buran's at the European level is just drastically different than what we hear have in the United States. And on top of that, even if it was surpassing the NHL in the United States, it's not gonna overcome Canada. So in North America. I mean, I get it, but you have to go past the NHL, Major League Baseball the that's not gonna happen. It could be on the level of the Angel, but it's still niche. Yeah,

I I got in the niche category. We got a couple of study this stories. This is where we decide whether it's real or bullshit. There is a new study out that found that drivers of flashy vehicles are much less likely to stop and allow pedestrians to cross the road. And they claim that depending on how expensive your car is. They broke this down. They said, the likelihood that you will not stop for people crossing the road, uh, you know, not slow down, it decreases by three percent for every

thousand dollars your vehicle is worth. I'm gonna believe that. Yeah, I believe it too. Yeah, I also believe when you have an expensive car, you've decided that you don't need to use the blinkers when you cut people off on the highway, Like, I don't mind if you cut me off, but at least have the courtesy to flash your blinker to make it seem like you're trying to be a

kind driver. You know what, I mean, especially near where we work, Sherman Oaks Studio City, UM Hollywood, North Hollywood and West l A. There's a lot of that going on, and you can easily identify the view. It's it's all the Hollywood fox in their tesla's and their beamers and their escalades that are trying to get back out to to Calabasas, where a lot of them live out in those composts near the Kardashians, and they're driving around there and it's like the auto bond freaking joke. Yeah, well,

what do you expect? All right? Here we go? What would you say? Gascoon makes the perfect wedding? A new survey of two thousand Americans who plan on getting married said that this would all the only thing you really need is this to make for a perfect wedding? What I think it is? I'd say weather? Seeing weather? You think what about flowers, the dress, the venue, any of that. But you're gonna go with about the dress? Well you kind of do you know? Uh No, According to this

new survey, this is great. It's an open bar awesome. You agree with that? I disagree. I agree with that one percent. There's nothing more annoying than having to, especially if you're a groomsman or bridesmaid. Not only do you have to buy a gift, but then you either have to buy a tux seed or a dress, and then the makeup and the hair and the pictures. You're spending more money to be a guest a special v I P guest at this wedding than you are actually of

any other part. So you need to have at least a little something coming your way. Having an open bar is not asking a lot, especially if you don't have if you have fifty to seventy five people, that's that's not a bad thing. That's asking too much. Now, I haven't been to too many weddings. I've been to more funerals and I have weddings, which says a lot about me. But my since I got with my wife, we've gotten the more weddings because you know, she's you know, women

go to more weddings or whatever. And my favorite party going to weddings is when they have an open bar, but it's only open for like an hour and a half or two hours. The mad rush before the bar is about to start charging, where people are desperately trying to get their little cups of whiskey and scotch and bourbon, and it's just hilarious. I love it. Now. You know

from your experience at weddings. When you go to weddings, typically in the middle of of the table, whatever group you're with, there's usually a two bottles of wine, like a red and a white. Uh. When I went to Europe a couple of years ago from my buddy who got married to a Polish woman, the wedding was in Poland, Ben And the best part about this for the for the actual ceremony, I mean the reception itself is it was a seven course meal and they didn't have any

wine at these tables. Ben. They had multiple bottles of chilled vodka. That was the style of the Polish it was. It was I think it was finished vodka. It was delicious, but that's all we had. We didn't have anything else. There was an open bar that was available with a little bit of beer, but everyone just pouring down the vodka. It was and you had it on tap. It was like water and it was absolutely fantastic. That was one

of the best weddings. Such fond memories to wedding night you are such as can't I just share these stories with you and the global. Matt is of of I Heart Radio and iTunes. You love that Tornado juice is what you love. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app. Search f s R to listen live. Here's a new study out says your brain recognizes familiar

music in blank. How long does it take your brain to recognize you know that you name that, name that tune. I'll name that tune in two seconds, believe it or not. According to this study, it is less than half a second. University of University College London finds that the brain is cable of recognizing familiar music in an incredibly short amount of time, within one tenth of a second it's being played.

I gotta I got a good a good skill, and I think a couple of your listeners that that always recommend soundtracks and things that listen to while they work. I will say I have a great skill of identifying the movie when I hear the music right away. It doesn't matter what it is, as long as I've watched it once, I can always identify that movie with what they sound my I'm not really great with music because I like music, but I'm not a music hard oh guy.

But what I am good at is I can really recognize callers voices right away, like after a couple of words. Sometimes they try to prank call me, and I'm pretty good at detecting. My My radar is able to detect all right. Here's a new survey that finds blank percent of Americans think that air travel is more stressful than going to work. Um, I'm gonna say and according to study, fifty five percent of Americans think that air travel is more stressful than going to work. You agree with that,

guess Gar, you travel a lot for work. I'm gonna say, no, I don't agree with that. People oftentimes are bad travelers as a is. I do think it's a it's a crock of ship that I think in October we'll required at least people that want to travel required to pay and and get a what's it called a real idea? Already got there? Yeah, we just go down to the d m V. It's a it's attacks, the real ideas attacks to get more money for the government. So how much did you pay for it? I don't remember we

got it last year. The funny thing is like, uh, we don't have a passport. I was saying, I wishould get a passport, but we don't go anywhere. So what's the point. Well, you should go somewhere, asshole like you should. I would have until my kitchen malfunctioning. Now I can't afford to go cop out. That's just reality. It's it's being a grown up. It's called budgeting. But here's my

thing on on travel. I think it depends on how much you weigh, because I know when I was morbidly obeys I dreaded traveling because you have that uncomfortable thing where you have to ask for the seat belt extender, which is very uncomfortable. You feel very awkward about that, and then you realize that the seats aren't as mine for you. You're not gonna fit in one seat, so some of your blubber is gonna be on the person

next to you, which is which is also annoying. And then the final thing is that there's the great unknown, like unless you're traveling with somebody, like I used to travel when I was doing stuff in baseball and stuff, I traveled by myself and so he never knew who was gonna sit next to you. Are they gonna be nice? Are they gonna smell? Are they gonna be rude? Are they gonna be a drunk? Are they gonna be, you know,

just an asshole? You have no idea. So it's like And then I always would get on the plane a lot, not always, but most of the time I get on the plane and the last person on the plane, my seat would be open, you know, then that the seat next to me, and I'm thinking, man, I'm gonna I'm gonna have an open seat next to me. And then the last person on the plane before they closed the door comes right into my seat. Have you ever been blue balled into first class? I? Well, I flew first

class a couple of times. And uh, one time, though they sold the same and there were two tickets for the same seat that were issued, and we fought and I lost. They threatened to arrest me at the airport in Memphis, Tennessee. Yeah, I was on a connecting flight from Cleveland to Miami in the World Series back in

the nineties. And uh, because no direct flights from Cleveland anywhere, and so we stopped in Memphis and this is before nine eleven and all that, and so you know, I was like my first class ticket, I'm sitting first class and this guy's no, I I paid more for the ticket or whatever whatever he said. And so the flight attendants were trying to figure it out, and Uh, I said, I'm not leaving the seat. He said, he's not leaving

the seat. So they decided I think they flipped a coin and they decided that the guy got the seat. I didn't get it. I still was not going to get off the plane. I was very ardent. I was gonna stay there. And then so finally one of the police officers came on and said, if you don't get off the plane, we're gonna charge you with a federal crime. And UH got off the plane. Wow, what airline was it? Uh? It was either American or Delta. I don't remember which

one I had. That happened to me on not arrested, but Delta. They were ready to uh take off and close the doors. A flight attendant put me in first class. I buckled my seat. Captain's ready to give instruction about departure, and they open up the doors and a guy comes in and it was his seat and so they had pushed me back into economy. I was so fucking it was a trip. A trip to the East Coast is a five hour flight. I think the airlines as an active customer service, you know how like when you go

to a baseball games. This is a hot idea hot tip for the airlines. You know, when you go to a baseball game and there's no one sitting behind the dugouts, and you can sneak down and sit behind the dugouts in the more expensive seats. I believe on a plane, when they closed the doors and there's open seats in first class, they should have like a raffle on the back and somebody from the economy class gets bumped up. How much fun would that be? That would be great?

Wouldn't that be great? It would be wonderful customer service for the airline. And they have to prepare each flight with enough food and drinks for people in first class, So why not give back to the consumer. Yeah, you know what. One of our listeners, I think it goes by the handle of I'm a pilot. I gotta ask him this because he likes you. He's a he's a

bit of a troublemaker. That guy, he's good. But the troubling thing is, though, Ben, is that I'm sure you've been on flights where there's nobody on there, and god forbid they bring you up to business or first class. That happened to me two summers ago where I hopped on an international flight and I was in economy for virgin and I was packed in like a sardine. But there was nobody on this flight. I mean nobody, and mean another guy who was your size, like six five

six six. We went to economy plus, which is two rows in front. We're gonna take off, and the flight attendants come and they're like, hey, can we see your ticket on the ticket and they're like you need to go back to your rows, Like there's nobody on this fucking flight. What's it to you? Because they have to work, right, they don't want to. It's extra work if you're in the first class cabinal. I'm also offended, guest gut by that stupid little curtain that they close, which is like,

to me, that's the equivalent of the four oh five freeway. Right, you're on the you're on, it's the it's the great divide there it's the point of demarcation the haves and the have nots. You're either on one side of the curtain where you're sitting there and you're you're drinking shots of booze and all that stuff, or you're on the other side where you're you're lucky if you get stale peanuts. Yeah,

what's kind of like me. You want to walk in here to Fox Sports Radio every so offten, so you've got a harem of engineers to follow around and clean up your mess when you walk into the Fox Sports Radio. How about this. More than one fourth of Americans now have tattoos, include nearly fifty percent of millennials have tattoos, and they love the tattoo. According to a new research, you get a lot of people now with neck tattoos and facial tattoos and full blown sleep And let me

ask you this. Now, I don't I'm not in the tattoo game. But will there's will we see a generation of people that copy post malone and get the facial tattoo Mike Tyson? Right? Yeah, but what Tyson only did one side? He was supposed to do the other side, and then he chicken out? Are you are you hirible. That's the thing. If you get millennials or the generation X, y Z A BC that is getting Yeah, but they're getting these tattoos. I would imagine they probably work from home,

or they're independent or their entrepreneurs. I don't know if everyone eventually has. It's kind of like, you know, naked pictures of yourself on the internet. If everyone has naked pictures of themselves on the internet, well, eventually the president will have naked pictures of himself on the Internet. You know what I mean, Like one of those deals, given enough time, you would never get a tattoo. No, no, I changed my mind about things. You know, I don't

want to commit to that. Plus you get to get maintenance on the tattoo and all that, which is even more amazing to me About the bullshit with jose L Tube and the whole talking about him getting a tattoo and it's on his chest or collar bone. I mean, part of me if I'm wrong on this, but correct me. Ben. If you're getting a tattoo during the ALCS or the a l DS, I think you need time for maintenance to uh put any kind of protective ceiling on it,

to treat it to cover it. I don't know if you'd be doing that, spending two, three four hours in a tattoo parlor and then going to play a game. I just see that as so far fetched, especially at that time of the season of Major League baseball. Yeah. Well, my favorite tattoo story with baseball up until al Tube was the there was a picture for the Expos who actually knew he was a douchebag, Jeff Juden, and he missed a start because he had an infection that was

caused by a tattoo gone wrong. He opened one of his He wasn't the opening they started, but one of the first starts of the year he missed because of infection from a bad tattoo. Speaking of which, um, the Astros right now are on pace to be hit nearly one and a half times per game. That's up from the major league average last year, which is point four one.

Yeah good, you know. And I like how these hard old baseball but I said this this week on the show, But I like how these hard old baseball people are like, oh no, that wasn't international. Just keep hitting him with breaking pitches. He's idiots, won't They'll take him for half the year before they realize what's going on. Yeah, but it's like a slow death that way. It's yeah, death

by a thousand paper cuts. I'm fine with that. Why don't you prefer roll this Chapman or someone that's throwing No, no, I I'm in it for the long game, not the short game. I don't want to see anyone die getting hit in the head or whatever, in the face with a fastball. But I'm fine with a lot of bruithing, bruising on the legs or the back. Maybe I've shot at the wrist. I'm okay with that. Yeah, I am too. I hope that it will continue for a hundred sixty

two games. So all right. A new survey found that blank percent of Americans have made rude gestures while driving. I think this is high. I think this is like, well, I think your number is right. This number, I don't not, But I think this is bullshit, said thirty eight percent of Americans have made rude gestures while driving. I do it all the time, but I do. I've talked about this before. I do it in stealth mode, like I will give you the bird, but I will have my

eyes focused front windshield. I will not look at the car on the side, and I will have my hand down with full bird extended, And that is my way to give you the bird without you knowing I'm giving you the bird. But see, here's the other thing too, is that I could be driving next to you and I can interpret that as you've given me the bird. But you can just be on your phone, you can be talking with your hands. While that's the great thing.

You don't know about that. And they say of the people that give rude gestures, of them, don't know if that road rage is a criminal offense at that And uh, they said, road ridge can start with an obscene gesture, but it can quickly escalate, guest gun into something daring dress or deadly. Said of men and of women, say they have experienced a road rage against them, Yeah, I've had. I mean, we live in the l A area and

people drive like a complete asshole. So absolutely there's one group of people I will never ever have road rade with, and and that you know too well out here, Ben is is motorcyclists. Um well, I cannot stand the fact that motorcycles are allowed to drive between lanes. This is the dumbest thing to me. Uh, and I guess in some states they are not allowed to. I think was it New Jersey? I've read somewhere then some states are

not allowed to do that. But I think it's so stupid and you just asking to get smashed because most people driving are not looking out for motorcycle drivers driving in between the lanes. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, absolutely, three day guys. Let's see. You can't read that one. You can't read that one. We're on a podcast. I don't know. I think it's bad. That's why I don't know.

The hardest working cities in the United States, according to a new ranking out based on employment rate, average number of hours worked per week, and number of people working multiple jobs, is an all fifty states. Guests, go ahead, real answer to see if you can get any of the top five is are probably hardest cities, though, I'll say San Francisco, New York. Uh, you got one, you got Number two is San Francisco, New York is not in the top five. Philadelphia not in the top five,

Chicago not in the top five. Um, I will go with what Okay, see not in the top five. Man, not in the top five. Alright, Number five on the list. Nashville, No, Irving, Texas, Irving, Texas, the Dallas Irving, Texas area. Cheyenne, Wyoming is number four. About that, never been there. You used to have a guy that worked at Fox Sports Radio, Steve Stillwell, who left to take a radio job in Cheyenne, Wyoming. He was a DJ and Cheyenne, Wyoming Number three on the

list Virginia Beach, Virginia. All right, shout out to Virginia. Number two. You've got San Francisco and the number one hardest working city in the United States again based on employment rate, average number of hours worked per week, and number of people working multiple jobs. Billings, Montana. No, Anchorage, Alaska. That makes sense. It's cold there. You got a lot of people working in the oil industry, right, A lot of that going on. It's a it's a big to do. Now.

Have you been to Alaska? I have not? No? Have you no? Never? Have you ever thought about taking a cruise up there with the missus or visiting? Uh me and my brother I think both my brothers have been to Alaska. My wife uh had We talked about it a couple of years ago, but we have obviously haven't done it. We're more Hawaii people than Alaska people. But I'd like to get up there, like to check it

out to be fun. Why not to hang out in Vancouver and just make a whole like Northwest trip again, Go to Seattle, hang out with my friends in Seattle, the great J. Scoop. Yes, those Tradin Is all those guys. Well, you need to have a passport then if you want to do that stuff up in British? All right, what percentage of millennials would rather spend their money on experiences rather than material items? Close seventy two percent? Yeah this I'm I'm I like to say I'm a millennial. I'm

an honorary millennial, but I disagree with that. I feel like when I spend my money on an experience, I wasted my money. Like I want something tangible to show for my month. Okay, So on that note, let me ask you this. When you first started in this industry, did you think or worry or even invest in retirement? Uh? Well, yeah, I mean I have some stock things and whatnot, but I knew I wasn't gonna get a four oh one

k from radio. So but I'm you know, am I totally prepared to retire, of course not no. But I'm saying, like, did you invest in those things when you were younger or did you Were you all liquid at that time? Well? No, I I saved a lot of money, but I didn't because of my mom giving me some wisdom. I did invest in some stuff that some of it's actually worked out, but I didn't do it at the time thinking I

was gonna be worried about retirements some day. I never thought I would ever retire, and I still don't think I'm gonna retire. But um, but yeah, I And you gotta do. If you're a young young guy or whatever a woman, you gotta put a little money aside you You will hate it when you're young, but you'll love it when you get a little older. Unless you're planning on not living very long, then just spend all your money. Who cares well? And I think that goes to the

point of why would you like the materialistic things? But why not use that for you know, travel and and gifts and and uh and taking care of you Like I think the experience alone does more than the materialistic things, right breakdown or they're they're useful once And I don't know I don't know what kind of crap your buying, but the stuff I buy it last a long time. I don't think about cell phones, laptops, computers. It's all made to be broken. Right, You're gonna buy something new

next year the year after that. A right, So you spent a few on the bucks at a concert, and then how do you benefit from that? Well, it's just fun. It's entertainment. I'll give you. If it's a bad concert, I'll give you. A perfect example is that in my twenties I loved traveling to Vegas. You know, in the early two thousand has been like Vegas is good. You've got comps for just playing whatever you had. You have to worry about ratings ran that bullshit. But never once

did I traveled to the East Coast. I never went to Boston, never went to New York, never went to Chicago. And doing that now my thirties, I completely regret not doing it ten years ago, because you don't need to have regrets regrets I do. I don't look back. Who can't look forward? You don't look back. I think if

it's just an old man in a rocking chair drinking lemonade. No, but of course, but you're making up for wasted time, like fucking around in Vegas this one thing, but doing it multiple times for bachelor parties or just to do it as opposed to expect most people in l A do. Young people go to Vegas and get you know, crazy, That's how it works, I know. But but cities like Chicago and Boston, New York and Philly, those are those

are great cities. Those are you know, for the dining experiences, for the entertainment, for the sports, for the people like those things. I would rather have than doing a Vegas trip for for a couple of nights, just because it's forty five minutes away in a flight or five hours if you drive. Alright, so fine, I know what happened there. It was a dramatic pause, a pregnant pause or whatever.

But I think you're digesting all of that. You're you're taking that wisdom along and saying actually full disclosure, truth and broadcasting. My headphones popped out, so I didn't hear any of that. I did not hear any I could pretend I did. I don't think we have too much time here, so we probably should do we have any don't stick to sports stories. You know. I would love to not stick to sports today. Um, but I punted on that situation because you did, because the ninety four

minutes of what we were doing. You know what, I do have two things that are not stick to sports related for us. I have more studies. If you want, I have endless amounts of studies and you can do more of those. But here I need your help on something. All right, UM, I'm staring down the barrel of forty and I had done something last week that I had not done in eighteen or nineteen years. Um, there's a lady. What's her name? Do we know the ladies? No, it's

nothing to do with that. I actually I made the jump bend to go back on the creatine. Oh really, very Mark McGuire, of you, yes, like very Andrew Steene Sosa McGuire, Griffy, Um, how did you deal with how did when you hit forty? How did you cope with it? I didn't even think about it. I didn't care about it, didn't bullshit, I didn't. You are a huge stress freak, so you worry about it. I don't. I just keep going. I don't feel like people. I hear these people. I

feel terrible. I you know, I'm amazed. I felt the same when I was way over four hundred pounds as I do since I've lost the weight, I don't feel any better. So why are you losing the weight? Then? Why do you care so much about losing the weight. Well, because I think I'll get you know, I'm trying to make up I lived a horrible life. No regrets, no regrets for for I'm not talking about regrets. Dumb. He's so offended by a word, all right, So I went

for it. I eat a lot of really bad food and was very OBEs So I know I've cut down on my lifespan, so I'm trying to gain back some of what I lost. So I end up where I was supposed to be before I check out. But I'm not worried about the whole vanity thing and all. You know, I mean everyone, it is important. You can't be ignorant to it. But I mean, I'm not gonna sit there and forget on that topic though. Guess con Uh, here's

a question. Why does stress turn our hair gray? You've got a lot of gray hair by the way you die your hair, but you have a lot I've seen you without the hair die. You have a lot of gray hair. I'm getting some of my facial hair. It's it's really disturbing. Harvard researchers have unlocked the answers. The says, feelings of stress activate nerves associated with the flight or fight or flight response in the human condition. Have you ever taken a stress test before? I have not. I

have not done that, but I was. I have a stressful job, so I don't. I mean, I'm not like saving people's lives or anything like that, but I have a kind of job where it's competitive, and you know how you work in the business, and the things don't go right, you're out of work. They'll get rid of you, they'll throw you away like a tissue. Plus, I have to do a lot of the work for the show because of the reasons we'll not get into here. So

it causes me more stress that I have to do everything. Uh, and I don't have a lot of help along the way, which is problematic. So well, so back to my original question. When you hit forty and you started breaking down, what did you do? How did you cope with it? I didn't break down. I was fine. It was just to me another birthday. I didn't you know, I'm not, but you are breaking down. No gall bladder, burnt tongue, chip too. I burnt my tongue because my pizza I make is

so good I couldn't wait to eat it. Not because I'm at my age. Uh, but don't you think it's important to worry about these things as No? I mean, you're all gonna get old, We're all gonna get ugly, We're all gonna die. And who cares? You know it happens to us, It happened everyone before us and everyone

after us. Every man, woman and child gets old, gets ugly, their hair turns gray, they have health problems, and then they die if they're lucky or if not, they are you know, write a helicopter and things go sideways earlier. What an asshole? What a fucking asshole? You don't know who I'm referring. Yeah, I do know how you're referring to. You don't know who I'm reframinge. I have a pretty good idea. You have no idea. Who have a pretty good idea. You don't know what I'm talking. Here's the

other thing about not sticking to sports. Is itinerary? Um? I'm looking at some things for spring training in Arizona, and then the draft in Vegas, and then we also might have to do a business trip to San Francisco here in the next couple of weeks. So how are we gonna do all this stuff? I don't know. The Vegas thing I think is gonna happen, but I'm not. I gotta wait a few Are you going to go to the draft thing? Are you gonna go do the draft of Shenanigans there in Vegas? Well? I might, but

it might be for for another production. So I was gonna ask you about is partaking in the festivities or what that is like for you during that week, because obviously the demands of your show are different because it's an eleven to three o'clock the West Coast time. Yeah, yeah, I'm thinking about going. I might. I don't know. It's gonna be such a cluster fuck on the strip in Vegas. It's bad when there's nothing going on. This sounds like it's gonna be armageddon for traffic, So that scares me

a little bit. But I'm probably gonna go, but I'll stay in the outskirts. I'm not gonna stay in the belly of the Beast. Um, you get one of those rooms at the Rio, like they're all sweets, like the Penguin sweets the Rio. Yeah, I mean I know some people that are fans of the show that work at the casino. So I might see what I can come up with in regards to a hotel or whatever. We'll we'll see about that. And we were invited by listeners

to go to Minnesota Philadelphia as well. Fats and Philly wants us to come back there and he'll he says he's gonna roll out the Red Carpet Force in Philly, so it's gonna do a little world tour. Philadelphia is awesome. Now how about this though, since baseball is right around the corner, Um, do I have your permission to to invite Rob Parker on so we can chat baseball specific Oh, the great Rob Parker. Absolutely? Yeah, yeah, I mean he's been Rob Parker fan. Yeah, he's he's going on a

on a cruise, he's taking some trips. He finished Antarctica a couple of months ago. So it's that time of the year of spring training. And then obviously first pitch of Game one of one sixty two, so we could do like a hard old baseball podcast. Yeah. I mean the best thing is he's got range right and being a New Yorker and in Detroit, he's got all that stuff. On the East coast, in the Middlewest, he's a Yankee guy. I'm a dodgery guy something like that. Yeah, that out there, alright,

very nice. Put the baby to bed if you want you all you have more. Well, you don't have any positive emails about about me, like no female interaction like from Tammy or from and the other females that hit you up and sing my praise and uh no, I got a whole stack of angry messages from Mark the full name guy who fills in my inbox the horrific, horrific messages. Are you getting more people that were bent out of shape about my parking last week or the fact that I took a shot at Marcel a couple

of days ago. Oh no, they still are upset about your parking. Here's one of the emails. I get three or four of these emails a day from this Mark the full name guy. He says, I would bet most listeners wish Marcel would just fade away. He is a boring, pompous ass. In love with attention. He does not deserve. Mark the full name guy said in this email. He is just soft in the head and the only reason he is taking up airtime is that he is a boot liquor and suck up and obviously a budding flip.

I don't know what that means. He has no real talent or imagination. And what an insult to the intelligence. Yeah, you're the one thing that Mark left out in that which is a great rat was the fact that you use Marcel as a crutch and a soundboard so you can check out for five minutes. Uh, let's see what what else that you know? I'm right, I'm not listening to you. I'm trying to find I got so literally

so many of these emails from Mark. I'm trying to get the one with the most venom because he really really gets upset. He encompasses a lot of the militia, A lot of these I haven't even opened. Uh. He hates Tammy and Montani rips Tammy all the time too. He sends me nasty, nasty. They're blood rivals, their blood rivals.

Uh see here, curse curse of Ben Mallard, Mark says, And what do I pull what what do I point to concerning the Astros and bo Sox cheating scandal, The curse of Ben Mallory, He says, of course, who else forged an unholy alliance with a Boston based radio sports talk station and who defended Bill Belichick and the spygate standal came to public awareness and contrived alibis and downplayed the entire incident. Call it karma if you like, I know what is real, the curse of Ben Maller. Ha

ha ha ha, that's exactly it. I wonder if he'll go away at the Dodgers win a World Series this year? Uh no, he'll say it's He'll come up with some excuse. Here's another one from Mark. Your joy is not real. It is obvious that you are miserable enough to pretend you are enjoying Booze and bean Balls was talking about

the Astros. It is not going to bring the Dodgers at Worlds of his championship and all that what ifs don't mean a thing either, because you try to minimize the other American League teams and the Dodgers postseason track records sucks and has sucked their entire history and then he's like, go out and have some pasta with that Italian guy. Was he is he referring to uh, what's from Kansas City? No, he's referring to Little Sword. Actually he wants me to go have pasta with the story.

Have you got any kind of victriol from a a news reporter or a writer or like radio or TV talent like that before? Oh you're talking about somebody have said on the radio? Yeah, well you know, how was that the Arizona Republic? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of small hit towns will will write, you know, they'll they'll have columns. I've been featuring Arizona. I remember the first time that happened was it was not in Des Moines. It was a town in Iowa, UM, and

they I ripped Iowa State. Iowa stated beating Oklahoma and it was like a big upset in college football and ruined Oklahoma season and Iowa State sucked at the time, and I said, what a buzz kill it was how they ruined the rest of the college football season. And they wrote a column and it was I forget what they They gave me. The whole the whole column was dedicated to me. And they gave me a nickname and I forget what it was, but it's it was pretty funny.

It was pretty funny. They just like the whole thing was just attacking. I gotta kick out of it. Well, Houston, I think Houston takes the cake, right Houston with Deshaun Watson and obviously you'll get the Astros this year. And then Arizona raced into the defense of Kyler Murray was pretty good too. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you know they're fan boys, are lemmings and that you expect. It's really good.

It's an acid test to find out what, you know, how pathetic your sports town is depending on how you respond. But are you Are you a fan of media conflict like you You've seen some stuff over the last week on social media with media personalities combating and feuding, and yeah, I listen, I don't you know, I don't really have a problem with I think it's funny or whatever to a point, and you know, it's like, hey, you know, that's fine. And I haven't gotten into too many rhubarbs

with like back and force with the media people. I did get into it with John Hayman Um, but he's you know, he I used to know him and he was all right. He's turned into a hard, old douche bag. I don't know what happened to him. We need to get you in a room with Cowherd. You and Colin would be an interesting combination, especially during football season, because yeah, I listen every willing to maybe forego sleep and come on his show sometime or something like that. I can

broke with that for you. Sure, yeah, I'm sure you do. You could do football season. We'll do Benny versus A Penny versus Blazing five. Okay, let's do it. Bom Megan happened. I'm sure he'll sign off on that. What could possibly go wrong? A com rex or two. Don't worry. We got seven engineers that will come in and in an

hour and a half unpatched something and then it will work. Yes, yes, Now Here's the thing though, is I can only hope now that we put a bow on this thing, is that you'll actually tweeted out and try to market it as opposed to rubbing my nose and your ship about spreading it to the masses and trying to elevate you as a talent. I don't know you're speaking in Rubbishes two weeks. I have tweeted things out and you have been in defiance of retweeting it or publishing it or

bring it out. You know, I don't care. It's it's free. I don't don't care. I don't know. Whatever, it's do whatever you want. That's what you've told here. I just I was sorry. I was distracted. I was looking up the newspaper column that the first one that I remember really ripping me. And this is in Sioux City, Iowa. And here it is. This is the lead on the column. What's the title? Um, I don't I don't have that. I just have the the actual story anyway, he says.

Quite early on most Saturday mornings, sux Cidians, should they choose, are subjected to six straight hours from midnight to six am of a sports radio talk show host named Ben Maller. Since the sixth hours, a repeat of the first listeners got to get their date dander up twice on the same touchy subject, at least among Iowa State football fans

and graduates of the university in general. When Mallard referred to Iowa State as a joke of a football program over the years, the condescending and patronizing chatterbox, then called Iowa States running back who scored the winning touchdown in an upset of the number two previously unranked but previously unranked Oklahoma State in ames Iowa the great Jeff Woody in quotes, and uh, he goes on and rips me some more. But that that line, I used that for

a long time, the condescending and patronizing chatterbox. That's poetry, is what that is. And it is and that's I mean. He did take a shot at you, telling you that you actually tape record an hour on your show, which is lazy radio. So he did. Actually, you know, I know you weren't around then. You were probably you were just a wink in your parents eyes there. But back in those days, we did five live hours of radio, and they said they needed to get six hours of programing.

So I said, just we're replay an hour. Was that? So you were solo or you were you with somebody else? I was solo. It five hours a night solo. Holy shit, a fucking nightmare. That was good time. Did you ever bring on the Prince of Darkness? Uh? Yeah, well we I worked with him several times. He worked at Fox briefly, you know. But but this is nothing to say that that actually trained me, guest gun, I'm not gonna pat myself on the back too late unless I am. But when I was doing the w e I stuff, I

would do three or four hours on EI. I have an hour break and then I do four hours on Fox. I was doing eight hours of radio some days eight hours of radio. And you would purposely have your same listeners calling to that show, so you can use them as a crutch to navigate through those hours of content on Boston radio, right, a crutch. So having fans that follow you wherever you go as a crutch, that's a

good approach if you're if you're a program director. Gascon thinks having fans follow you from radio station radio station is a crutch. That's a bad thing. It's a calling show, dummy. I give out the number of people call in. You want me to go to human resources again? Yeah, you can do that. You think it as a crutch. I wish your father could give you a ticket. Man, he knows people. He can get your ticket next time you

park like that. I'm not gonna even tweet it. I'm just gonna send a photo of your dad is what I'm to do. How about that? Not send a photo to your old man? That's great, that is all right. I gotta I gotta, I got things I do. What are you gonna drag this out? We we already made me wait an hour to be because I was doing absolutely nothing for an hour and a half. Well, listen, you should have made sure it worked. It's a bad

job by you. Shame on you. And uh, I was here, I was prepared, and the engineers all admitted the problem was on your end, not my Well, it was on their around. They owned the equipment, so it's not on I did hear, though, I don't know if I'm supposed to say this that because of what happened, they're gonna upgrade the equipment in that podcast studio. How about that you're bitching and money finally paid off. All it takes is to have four engineers and a pow wow for

an hour. And uh, of course it's always the last place you look, yes, because you stop looking right. It's like when you lose your keys. He's oh, everyone, so I found it the last place I looked there? It was well, of course you wouldn't keep looking for something after you founded. Yeah, well that's good. That means you don't have to blame anybody else here for fucking with the gears, So props to you on that. All right, you can I go now, I'm like, alright, alright, thank

you all appreciate that. Download this podcast asked tell a friend. You've already downloaded this one, but tell a friend and the other podcast have a wonderful, amazing, crazy, great weekend and I'll get you back on the radio Sunday night into Monday two am in the East on Fox, and all the I Heart affiliates and non I Heart affiliates have a great weekend. Thanks