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k A. David Gascon's right over there. He's in a he's in a surly mood today. And I don't know that you want to talk about that or not Gascon. But you're not in a great mood right now, probably not, so let's get on with it. No, that means he doesn't want to talk about See, that's his way of saying that he does not want to talk about the situation. Is that correct, that's correct. I didn't miss you the other day, so happy birthday to you. Thank you. It

was very nice for you to call me. I appreciated that and text me unless you didn't do any of that stuff, so I you know either way. But what we are work friends, as we say, right, yes, yes, when you're work friends, you don't actually have to be real friends. You can just be like work friends. And this is kind of how it goes. So we have it's my birthday. It's my birthday. We have the key, we return, and some other surprises along the way, but we'll start with, of course me, because why not. It

is my birthday week. And I was very honored. Uh not you, Gascon. You did not take the time to reach out, but many people did, and thank you very kindly. People I have not heard from from my past. A couple of big radio executives reached out to me that I used to work with back in the day. That was cool to hear from them, and a number of big fans, old listeners of the show that had had not reached out in many years. We actually had a

call on the air the other night from Chris. It was Kristen, the stripper from Houston that used to call up back like ten eleven, twelve years ago and and that whole thing. So that was cool to hear from from her. She used to do bits on the show and then retired stripper. And it's one of those it's like that's a gig. That's a gig you have like for the it stays with you, right Yeah, I mean you can be a former stripper, but you still have that in your head. You go from what's stripping to

pull dancing to porn? Is that what the uh progression is? Or do you go the other way around? I think what usually happens is it's a stripper and then you're not making enough money and so you become a prostitute. Isn't that usually how that goes? And then then you can get into porn. You want to branch out if you want to, you know, go on the the up

and up. Yeah, I don't know, but uh, yeah. I mean in Texas everything's bigger, so I can imagine the tits are a little bigger too, right, Yeah, I don't know. I mean you you've been a connoisseur of the ballet over the year's guest gun, Right you spent a few bucks. No, not really, I'm not a fan of it. I don't I don't get the whole I don't get the whole idea of being teased for an hour or two hours. Why you gotta pay for bottles of alcohol and pay for addition and pay for a couple of drinks. I

gotta tell you. I in my younger days, when no women would would ever be in the same room with me, I did attend a number of ballets, and I was a regular in my twenties. I was at the ballet quite often. In fact, I was paid by the radio station to go to some of those location. How great is that back in the in the nineties they would pay us to go do shows from the back of a strip club, which was, you know, a restaurant they

had put back there. I told the story a few times over the years, but the one of the big strip clubs in the San Fernando Valley they're back in the day. They decided to have some extra property, extra space on the property, so that like, we're gonna open up a sports bar, but we're gonna try to get kids and families to come in, and then we'll spend some money on radio advertising, which is very nice. And then they paid for us to go do some live

shows to get people to come into the restaurant. But you had to walk past the front of the strip club to get to the restaurant. So amazingly, a lot of families, a lot of moms objected to that, and so in it up being mostly the strippers on break, we're hanging out in the restaurant trying to get away from the creepy guys in the club and all that.

The other thing I will tell you from my life experience here, going to a strip club as a mere civilian and going to the strip club with professional athletes is a much different experience, all right, a much different experience, and that needs to be said. You know, people wonder why would a guy like James Harden go to the strip club all the time in Houston. You know, he's a legend. They've retired his number at the ballet there

in Houston from the Rockets there James Harden. Well, the reason, all right, first of all is when you go in as a regular person. I think most of us have done that as guys, get some point gun into the ballet um. You know, you buy a drink, you know, the whole thing you gotta. They're all kind of working a little bit to get lab dances or whatever. By when you go in with professional athletes, the the strippers

have this radar. I don't know how they have it, but they find out right away that there's there's a big they call him in Vegas, they call him Wales, and uh, somebody was some cash in there. And I back in the days when I was doing stuff with the Dodgers, occasionally we would go out and the guys would let me tag along when there shenanigans. And because I was harmless at that time, I was on the on the payroll as a lapdog pr guying the the Dodger talk show, and so we would go out and uh,

it was unbelievable, man. I I remember one of my most amazing nights was in New York at a strip club called Tens, which I don't even know is still in New York City anymore. But went there with a bunch of Dodger guys and pretty much that place was open. Um. We got back to the hotel, the sun was coming up, and that there was a there was a damn day game at at Chase Stadium. There's back when Mets playing in Shade Stadium. So it was a day game at Shay Right. And so the guys I hung out with

were mostly the relief pictures. They liked me, they bonded for some reason, I bonded with these guys. So it was it was like but not like the big closer guy. It was like the set up guys, the long guys, you know those guys. So so I'm hanging out with those guys and i get back to the hotel, you know, and I'm a young guy, but I'm a big fat guy. I'm not in great condition and all that. I'm certainly not used to that. I lived a sheltered life in

Orange County. This was like an eye opening experience to me, and I've never been in that circle. So I get back to the hotel and you know, Son's coming up over Manhattan, you know, the Midtown right over the Grand Hyatt there, Grand Central Station. So we get back to the hotel, Sons coming up. I'm like, holy fuck, there's a day game at Shay. I mean, what these guys aren't gonna be able to pitch? You know, these guys, I don't know how I'm gonna be able to survive.

I I get like, you know, three hours of sleep, and then I had to go out get on the so whatever going on the game, and so anyway, long story short, I end up going out to the ballpark. Whatever. It wasn't that bad. But these guys, two or two of the guys that believe I think it might be in three, but it was two for sure, pitched in that game and pitched perfectly. It was unbelievable. I never

said any like it. I mean, I thought, there's no way if I if I had been a degenerate night access to like a lot of money, I would have bet anything against these guys because they there's no way, how can you possibly perform at that level after spending all night you know, at the at the at the club. But they were able to do it. And David Wells didn't. He throw a perfect game for the Yankees with a massive hangover too, like back in. Yeah, that's the that's

the legendary story, right. And then the famous there was the picture for the Pirates that he was on LSD, Right, that's the other famous story that always gets repeated. And he was seeing all kinds of stuff, all kinds of odd stuff. So what did you do for your birthday? Then? What kind of dances did you get? Uh? Are you talking about like that back then? I mean I'm talking about earlier in the week. What kind of dances there? Yeah?

I was something well, I don't know, I mean I got I did a zoom call because that's what you do in quarantine. When you have a birthday, Well your birthday. You share a birthday with O. J. Simpson and Tom Hanks, Oh Jay, I share a birthday with Bernie made Off. So who's who's got the worst celebrity tag along on their birthday? Bernie made Off or O J? Bernie didn't kill anybody, although several people committed suicide because of Bernie O J? Chop Chop? And who else is in my

birth I got Jerry Seinfeld. That's pretty good. That's not a bad one, right, So I felt not big anymore, But he was the number one comedian comedian guy back in the day. Uh, there was a list of people that were nothing. It's just just fascinating pod gist. Who else? Oh the Mets TV guy who's very good, Gary Cohen. Oh, yeah's birthday as well. I like him. He's he's solid, He's rock solid. And so how old did you turn?

Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio. I just turned twenty nine, so I'm almost thirties, So twenty nine years old where I am right now? So I will stay there for a while. Yeah, I'll say that you're not aging great then if that's the case. But you know what, there's still plenty of years ahead for you. So I'm sure it was just an oversight by you

too to not send the the birthday message. There, we considered it. You probably thought about it, you know, but I think the problem, you know, a full disclosure, The reason Guesstcon did not send the message is because he doesn't listen to the show because he's not a fan. So he don't listen to the radio show. Because there's a lot of birthday references on the show. And then secondly, the other problem with Gascon, and this is maybe the

big your issue is he's not on Facebook. And if you're on I'm like bad at Facebook because I don't go on there every day, and I go on there sporadically. I'll get in there and I'll try to catch up on what my old friends are doing now and stuff like that. But if you if they have all the birthday mess just like I know when people's birthdays are only from Facebook, you're not on there, so you have no way of knowing when birthdays are. I don't really care.

I can. I guess I could sell myself out. But I did get a notification on LinkedIn that it was your birthday and you chose not to Well, I think it's more appropriate to to call people or to talk to them face to face and give them a birthday shot out and not really texting. UM. And since I don't talk to you outside of when you decided to call because you won't pick up your phone, that's not I thought this is the most appropriate time to wish you happy birthday. Yes, I I go into Frankenstein's lab

to get ready for the show I have. I know this is weird. You have like laser like folkus. I I follow Coughlin clock alright when you get to little early and follow that and then um locked in. I wanna locked in. I'm gonna I want to do a good show. I want to be prepared. The degree of difficulties gone up during the pandemic. There's not as much

to choose from. The options are limited, so you have to to make as Bill Parcel said, chicken salad, chicken ship and so it takes a lot of effort to do that, and I know you would understand, and doing some of the steaks being raised, then that means more color driven power hour is correct, So the amount of prep you have to do is decrease quite a bit. Well, I know that you're trying to be funny over there, and you do. You do not find the power hours appealingly,

but the listeners love them. They can't get enough of them. In fact, next week, Cowboy John Brad from Windsor on tear. This guy has been calling talk radio since the nineteen sixties, very provocative and he will be on to tell us some rip roaring stories about the old days, calling radio shows and it will be intoxicating, guest. And I know you're kind of a creature of habit. We're all creatures of habit. But you don't ever think outside the box. And so some of us have to think outside the box.

And for example, the other night, we had a very successful event. We brought back live sports amazingly to radio boxing, the verbal Octagon, the Thriller in the Malarilla Blind Scott versus the Mallar Militia and overlooked, underappreciated radio event and it was amazing. People absolutely loved it. And I don't know how we can repeat that, but it was an amazing situation and we're so excited again, Guess. And there's the difference between the follower and the leader, right, the

alpha dog and the omega. You're more of an omega. I'm more of a pioneer. I'm more of an innovator. I' more of an architect. An originator is what I am. I will acknowledge and apply your efforts for doing a lot more digitally, your your video monologues or fantastic. I'm happy that you've actually gotten to not only first Gear, but now second gear with the digital platforms. So being the pioneer that you are, I know that it's about

three sixty five days. Uh late, but butter late than never is is Ben Mally and so here we are with a new day. It's like it's like a television audition, is what it is, unless it's not. But uh now it is cool. See. I figure it's good promotion. Any promotions good promotion, but people actually are I was a little concerned when I first start, was gonna want to

look at my fat face on the video. But people have been downloading, and they've been watching it on the different platforms, and thousands and thousands of people that watch that. That's why it's kind of cool. I I've been I know you don't like this either, because you don't like the little person you're in the leadist you West of the four oh five. This is gonna be groundbreaking for you. But I try. I'm trying to mix in some some different hats to to give a tribute to because thousands

of people are watching these stupid videos. I wore a hat for Ed from Spokane. He has a gardening business there and he gave me one of his hats when I was in Seattle, so I I wore that there, and uh, you know, I was. I was gonna wear a hat from my wife's she works at a police station, but she advised me not to. She's a little concerned about the Mallard malicious stockers, so uh and I understand that, but I but I would like to wear like maybe your dad has an old l apd hat or something

like that, Like i'd wear that or something. You know, I represent whatever, So I'm open. You said your hat size is on an eighth though, or an eight in a quarter. That's an eight. It's so it's a big head. Yeah, it's a big melon. It's giant. Joe McDonald, the late great Joe McDonald, a radio legend in Los Angeles, and a colleague of mine called me melon Head. That was my nickname. He called me melon Head back in the day,

and we had some some battles. We patched things up though before he passed away, but we had we had a few battles over the years, but we good name. I didn't have a lot of battles of people that you don't agree with and I can't understand their side of things or don't listen. So it's good to see you patch things up before he went and took the dirt nap. So that's good. I'm happy for you. So do you feel better now? I mean dirt nap? I mean that's you know, that's what it is. That's fine.

So do you feel do you feel older? Do you feel younger? Do you feel the same now that you've you've christened the new five? Oh? No, I feel the five of you. Thought I wasn't listening. I usually don't, but schmuck. Wow. You I such a douche che right there, David Gascon. I'm gonna teach you. You're you're my disciple, and I'm trying to teach you here, but of course not anywhere near fifty and that I can't even see it on the horizon, can't even see it on the horizon,

and feel no different. I feel no different at all. I mentioned the zoom thing. I got a surprise and this actually ties into the pandemic. So I get on the zoom to talk to my brothers, and everyone moved out of California. And I don't blame them. I mean, please, I would too if I could, but I can't right now. But anyway, so the my my brother I got one brother who lives in New York, in New York City,

and I got another brother lives in Appleton, Wisconsin. And you know, I never see him, especially now because what's going on. Maybe once a year I'll see my brother from New York. And I haven't seen my brother from Wisconsin in several years. And so yeah, we do zoom chat catch up and my brother from New York gets on, and I'm thinking he's got you know those filters on Instagram and the kind of where you can put different

faces on, you know what I'm talking about. So I'm thinking, like, my brother's got a filter on because he's bald, right, my bald brother. And I'm like, what the hell I said, take the filter off? You know, What's what's going on there? I think my phone's acting up and turns out his hair. He was so tired of not being able to get a haircut because all the barbershops are closed because the politicians that he he just shaved his head. He just shaved all the hair off. He was his hair was

growing too long. He got tired of it. It was annoying him, and so he just trim, trim and guy rid of all of it. Who did it? Did his Mrs Doudery dude himself? Uh? No, was it was him and his his daughter's helped him. The wife not a fan. His his bride not a fan of the bald look of my my older brother. Now does that mean that you're gonna do something like that? You know, I have weird I don't have a lot up top, but I have a lot on the sides, which doesn't It's not

a good look. I'm a baseball hat guy. I have thought about it, but I I don't look good now. I can't imagine I would look good bald. And then I've heard different stories about when you shave your your head and get rid of all your hair, like it grows back. Strange, lead doesn't go back the same, you know, And I'm concerned about that. What kind of weird ship would happen if I did get rid of all that?

And then there's like maintenance, Like I have a my buddy in Dallas, uh, my old elementary school buddy that I still talk to you, which with the I R S. So I hate him because it actually I rs. We still get along, litle bit. And uh he shaved his head years ago because he's you know, he's losing this hair a little bit, so he's just shaved it. But then there's like a lot of maintenance you don't even realize because I'm not in the cult of being bald, where you shave your head. But there's like a lot

of maintens. You gotta like every day, you gotta be on it. You gotta like put product on it to shine it up a little bit. Like there's it's like polishing a bowling ball. There's a lot of stuff that goes into it that we don't even know about. Well, well, thankfully you're in quarantine right now, so it's not like you're gonna go see the masses. So you can you

try a couple of things. And if you my my plan, listen, my plan was, I was just gonna I was gonna not shave my beard at all, you know, not shaved in that whole thing. And then look whatever, who cares, I don't care. I'll show you my bohemian endencies, my quirkiness, whatever. And but then I started the company asked me to do these video things, and I'm like, wow, if I'm gonna be on camera, I mean, that's that crap. Last forever, and so I don't want to look like a disheveled mess.

So I gotta at least take care of my appearance a little bit. Um. So that's why. But if if I didn't do the video stuff, I would not have shaved at all, and I would just whatever. Who cares to be doing the show in my underwear? I don't care, but that's not how it works, and you don't do the show in your underwear. Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am

Eastern eleven pm Pacific. Well, I mean you've you've seen the videos there, man, I'm wearing a tuxedo one day, I've got a five thousand dollars suit I got from Beverly Hills the next and just rest in the nines, not early looking at the attire. I just you know, I saw that you were on there, and so I thought it was appropriate to a plot you in your efforts. So baby, I appreciate that. I know you are again just an order nary guy. You're just the foot soldier

and all that and do the predictable thing. But I occasionally I can show you some of my um free spirited signe on. We say, was it avant garde? Right? Isn't that how they say it? Yes? You tell me, since you are the you're the king of style right now unless I am in vogue is what I am, and people are very jealous of that. You always look for the overnight guy. I'm on the catwalk there, walking down the runway and doing a pirouet is what I'm doing, So I see I know all the fashion terminology, guess,

And you don't think I do. But I know the fashion terminology. So I could have gone into fashion. I chose not to go into fashion. I chose to go into overnight sports radio doing God's work, right, I guess? How is how is the work that you're doing now at home compared to being here in the studio. Have you noticed a major difference at all? Are now? I don't like this shows any different, Like I think it's

the same because I never saw Eddie. I've never been in the same room with Eddie for the whole time we worked together. Because the update room is the news rooms around the corner at the studios, it's not like we see each other, so it's no different. I'm just my studios. Further, away than uh than it used to be. But I do missed going in. You know, I love going to the radio station and the whole the vibe,

the energy which I was listening. Uh. I won't get into why, but I heard a little Gottlieb show earlier in the week and John Ramos was talking on the air and he had his mask on. He was all muffled, you know, he was it was what's going on with And it was like it was like Ramos, you know, I understand being a little paranoid, but I mean you you got to wear the mask. I mean, what's going on with that? Yeah, that's a little on. We've had

some guys on the weekends to the same thing. I am not paranoid, right, I mean, am I wrong on that thing? That's a little paranoid that you're just by talking, you're gonna get that and a microphone. That's that's really get todd. We at that point should I be concerned? Here? We all it's at end times. Yeah, we've had hosts that have actually been on the air with masks on. Yes, the name names right now, name name Steve Hartman, Steve Hartmant would never do that. Steve would never suppress his

own voice. That's a good point. Steve loves. The only person that loves to hear Steve Hartman more than Steve Hartman is Steve Hartman. Yeah, yeah, Steve would never do that, but no, but yeah, there's it seems to be a fashion forul pause though, So you don't want to name names.

You're afraid to name names, So you don't want to do that, even though I'm assuming the people listening to this, who listened to Fox Sports Radio all the time, they big super fans of the network would know just by listening, you can tell when someone's wearing a mask, they sound different. If that's the case, and there's a reason for me to rat anybody out, that's uh, you know, I know, I know. We live in the state right now where

we have to wrap people out. We're just walking down the street or going to the beach or going to the park. But you know, I'm not gonna be a part of that. I'm gonna be bigger than that. I went on a rant about Gavin Newsom, the Weasley governor of the state of California. My wife, Yeah, King Newsome, it's the People's Republic of California. And I think he's

taking his talking points from the leaders in China. But uh, as I said, I told my wife, I said, listen, you know what, what's the fucking point of living in California. We pay outrageous taxes here, taxation with terrible representation, and they have the fucking balls to shut down the beaches. I mean, we might as well live in Nebraska or Iowa or Kansas, right. I mean the advantage you have one of them is the obviously the weather in California, but also the ability to go to the beach. It's

the whole fucking West Coast pretty much as California. And this weasel, uh, this Weasley governor California High Hope gets thrown out of office. Gavin Newsom, what a schmuck. I mean, this guy, it's a total power play. Now, it's a total power play. What's going on now? You're on the third rail? My man. I'm sorry, I just upset me. My man. You I blame you. You started this. No, I would just say I want to wrap people out.

And did you get any pushback for going on a Gavin Newsom ramp by the way, Well, I don't know. I just did it. I haven't done it on the show, and I are you talking about with my wife? No, No, on the radio. I didn't do it on the radio. I just didn't. I just at home. I didn't. When I was looking at I watched the news for like twenty minutes because that's all I can handle. And then you know, I saw the headline, Gavin Newsom plans to

shut down all the beaches in California. I saw the headline the other day as we're recording the podcast, and and so I was like, what the funk is this? I can social distance. I wear you your dopey little mask and all the gloves and all that ship. But if I want to go to the beach, I'll sit on the beach. Fuck you. That's what I have to say. Now, deep think he will? Do you think he'll shut because he's gonna shut down the beaches and parks? Do you

think he's gonna shut down the Airport's? I mean because that would be appropriate, right? I mean, if you're talking about social distancing, like we're talking about airplanes and people that are well within six feet from each other sitting on an airplane coming into Sacramento, San Francisco, Oakland, l a long beach like that would make sense, right at a local airport. Well, no one's flying now anyway. People

are still flying. No, it's not hardly anyone. They I think they've lost like ninety five percent of their their business, the airplane people. But I listen. I hope I'm wrong about a sense that we're getting to a tipping point here that people are they've reached the end and is people have gone a little too far and uh, and so you're gonna have to roll back some of these restrictions. You're just gonna have to. And if you don't, um, well you're gonna have to deal with what happens. And

I I hope it doesn't get nasty. But there's a lot of people I hear this from from fans that listen to the show, that are just they're over the top at this point. They're like, you know, this is enough? Enough is enough. It's an inflammatory situation. Yeah, it gets even worse now on social media that I've seen. I've seen doctors in Baker's field that have published YouTube videos that have now been deleted. I know that that is that also, I saw that that is unbelievable, Like if

you don't agree with the group think you get. It's like when I used to watch the History Channel and they, you know, Joseph Stalin would would make people that were enemies of the state vanish, like get rid of all the photos. I mean, it's unbelievable. It's like there's this retaliation if you do not go and these you talk about those doctors in Bakersfield and uh, and I saw that the video that was like a TV news report.

The TV station in Bakersfield interviewed them, uh, you know, and they gave some numbers and they went through all of it, which of course infuriated the politicians because they don't correlate with what they had been saying. And uh, it's it's almost like I did a rant the other day guests Gun about I know you don't listen to the show, but it was about mel Kuyper and the draft, the mock crafts and how you know the top mock draft guy was Peter King, who got about thirty of

the picks right right. Everyone else is like or less of the picks. And it's kind of like one of these things where like they make these bold they go off projections on what's gonna happen. And I know there's obviously a different situation with the coronavirus, but my entire life, every time there's been some kind of medical thing, they always have the most outrageous charts that talk about how terrible things are going to be. And they never end up like that. It never ends up like that, and

they never get called on it. It's it's in few rating, it's it's irritating and it's maddening at the same time. And and then of course they have the self fulfilling prophecy, were like, well, see distance and that's why it worked? How that fund? Do you know that? You know what I'm saying. I mean, it's it's a correlation causation anyway, getting me carried away, that's a bad job by you, guests. Gun Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup

in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live. I think it's an important conversation to have, though, don't you think, I mean, especially in this day and age that we're at, because you know, people are listening to us. Podcast numbers are up all across the board, and people are listening

in different parts of the country. So I think a great test for us, at least here since we're in California, is we're gonna see what happens in New York, and we're also gonna see what happens in Florida. We're gonna see what happens in Texas. I think what the sports and the way it is right now, I thought for the most part that this would be depending on the league itself, I thought it would be a Red versus Blue push. Red will probably be aggressive on how they

open up the states and Blues will be passive. I just think that's the way it's gonna be, and obviously for different reasons. Yeah, I know people are shocked, and I've got a lot of messages from people that are email people that are like, what's going on now? You've always been a panic peddler on the radio about sports, but now you're not, you know, and I'm I'm not.

I know there's a lot of people out there that have fatalist thinking, um and uh, and I get that, I understand that, but you know, it's the how many people have said, well, wait two weeks and then see what happens. You know, the hospitals will be overwhelmed and in these states that have opened up. Okay, well wait two weeks, and what happens if they're not overwhelmed? What do you do then? Right? What do you do with that particular point anyway? All right, real quick? I do

you use Amazon a lot? Uh? Like Amazon? You talk about buying crap on Yeah? Yeah, of course I bring that up right now because of what you had just mentioned. I trying to re put a review in for a couple of products that I've purchased, um like digital products like camera equipment, tripods and things of that nature. I kid you not been. I have only made one review in my entire time while on Amazon, and I've only

made inquiries on products like where they've been manufactured. I I think I told you this about a month ago, like I'm not going to buy anything that's Chinese made. I'm just not gonna do it. So I had sent inquiries out to different companies on Amazon, like where their products were manufactured from all of my comments the one comment, but my ability to even put reviews in for anything that I've purchased in the past been completely disbanded. I

can't comment or review on anything. I can't rate it, I can't review it. It's mind boggling. And that's for two accounts that I have. I have two different accounts for two different emails, and Amazon is not allowed me to do any of that stuff on there. Now. It really is, you know, and I know people, and I've always heard from these people all the government's out to get you and all this stuff. They're gonna, you know, silence you. You know, these these guys, and I always

laughed at them. But in this case, that YouTube video for the Bakersfield doctors that got raised is really outrageous. Um and and the the thing about it, and and then what you said, just because you want to know what stuff was made in China. Of course Amazon, if they didn't sell stuff made in China, they would not have Amazon. I mean, it's kind of they just assume everything's made in China based on on that. But I'm you know, I'm not like you. I'm not making a

stand and not buying stuff from China. I'd rather buy stuff from America. But I don't. I don't approach it that way. But it's, uh, it's it's crazy that the censorship that is legitimate. I mean it's legitimate. Is not people you know, you know, going around all paranoid. This is we have proof, we have tangible proof that the big tech companies are doing and they are The thing about I was gonna get to and I it slipped

my head. But why not? Is the real pity when you talk about um, the politicians like there's no checks and balances on these these like YouTube pulling a video from the doctors in Baker's field because it agrees with the government's position. So who the hell and d C is gonna stand up and say, let's call in the YouTube and say what the hell are you doing? Because they in the eyes of the government, the politicians are on the side of the their side, so why would

they do anything to call them out and make them accountable. Well, yeah, especially because most of the tech comes from California. I mean you're looking, you're looking at Silicon Valley, so that it's the land of the intouchable, especially wild though. I mean I always you know, I'm not a big science guy. I like these studies and will do that in another podcast. But you look around and you're like, well, what you know it's like science has always been it's an imperfect thing, right,

it's in evolving. Science is always evolving, and not everyone's right, right, And you know, right, you look at some of the big discoveries and science, and people still try to prove them wrong. Albert Einstein, Right, people still something maybe Einstein missed something, you know, that kind of thing. But yet in these cases of the pandemic, there's one set of facts and that's it. You can't have anything else. And

it's uh, it's it's really annoying. And the good thing is if you have a different opinion or if you have different information, you get to be labeled as a conspiracy theorist. Well yeah, that's the way. That's the way to silence you. Right, there's two ways people get silence to say, well, you're just a conspiracy guy. Oh you're you're a Trump guy. They say that, right, like to dismiss you. That's that's the counter argument, which is a skill.

I think one of those documentaries you had me watch guest and I think it was the c i A. Came up with that to discredit, right, wasn't they They were the ones that came up with that technique to discredit the other side. It's um, which which argument technique is that poisoning the well? Or is it shoot a messenger? But it's got to be both, right, both Right, there you go, it's both a little bit of both. It's poisoning the well, shoot the messenger, and uh, if you

want to just look at the argument techniques. I mean, all these are played out in in these conversations. But I love I love the fact that we have the ability through technology to correspond and to publish, to talk, to argue all these things with people. I am all open for it. Like I don't. I don't believe in cancel culture. I don't believe in censoring. I believe in

free speech. But it's absolutely appalling to me that when we get on social media platforms with it's Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, whatever it may be, God forbid, somebody higher up the food chain does not like what's published. Then it gets removed without a shadow of it down and then there's no penalties either. That goes the other way too for the media. I mean, we look at ourselves. Obviously we're

just sports junkies. It's a little bit different. But you get reporters that are out there that have free range to produce, promote right, whatever the funk they want, and they have no repercussions for whatever they publish. Yeah, they might get that, might get drilled by social media, they might get drilled by one party or the other. But still there's there's They're flying with plenty of parachutes and

a cushion ground to fall on. Uh yeah, listen, I I agree with you, but you know everyone's biased, and I don't really care. I grew up in a Household've told the story before, and you know, I was My mom was a liberal, my dad was a conservative, and you know, so growing up in my household, there would be tremendous debates at the dinner table. They always talked about whatever was going on in politics of the day. And that's how I grew up. And I grew up

with the back and forth. And I know we're in an area now where you can't have dissenting voices and all that, and it bothers me because I didn't grow up like that. And I don't really care. I mean, I have friends that I totally disagree with their position, but I don't care. I'm a big deal. We're not in we're not in positions of power to change anything. You know what I mean. I have my position, you

have your position. We can all get along. It's fine, but a lot of people do not agree with that, and they don't want to associate with people that have. You only want that same argument, you know, the same group think on your side. But this is like professional sports in such a way that professional athletes, whether it's an illegal shot to the head or an illegal check, whatever it be, throwing at a batter up and in, they get suspended for a day, they get suspended for

five games, they get find the whole nine yards? What they What do players not like? They don't want they don't like losing money and to the note and like not playing games. Well, that's the same thing for us. Now, don't forget. People are obviously losing jobs, they're being furlough, they're being laid off, they're being fired, and their civil liberties are being stripped from the ability to go out, the ability to walk down the street, the ability to go to the park, go to the beach, whatever it

may be. Like, one by one you start getting these people piste off. It doesn't matter the state that they're in. They're gonna start pushing back. And you know, it's unfortunate that where we're at right now because obviously, in this day and age, with the technology that we have in the medicine, this thing, like you said, is evolving, and I hope to god it's it's remedied suited rather than later.

But yeah, well I kept hearing June, June, June, which is still a month away, right, We're still a month away from from June. So and that doesn't mean June one. That could be June fifteenth or something like that. So um, but yeah, I mean, obviously, I I want people to be healthy. I I looked at the data, have looked at the information. I do not believe we're at the point where they, you know, Dr Faucin, those guys were saying originally, I think they were way off on their

their data. And I know, well it's because people are social distancing. Okay, well, I can wear your little mask if you want, but you can open things up. Okay, it's not gonna it's not gonna end it stop anyway. Um, So real quick, just to wrap up, you got boy that we got sucked down a rabbit hole on that one. Ah, yeah, I blame you. It was not on the rundown by Joby. So now I'm gonna have Can I send you the nasty emails I get from people that are very upset

by this conversation? Can I send that to you if you can. I'm being probably tagged on it from a couple of guys. I'm sure. The guy I'll get is I love your show, but I can no longer listen. I love that. That one's good. That's that's one of my favorite. You're totally wrong on this, and let me tell you why you're not. Yes, yes, and then they'll give me a bunch of propaganda from the government. That's usually how that goes. It's normally how that goes. Um, So I just too real quick. I wrap up the

birthday week big thanks to the wife. She spoiled me some driving all over the place. You can't go any restaurants, but she drove to my favorite Italian placed, Palermo's over there in East Hollywood and picked up some pizza rosa and brought that home and that was great. So I love that place, and I've been there in a long time because everything's closed up and they're just doing take out whatever, so that was cool. I had my Raising Canes this week, which I love, of course, and that

was great, and some other some other restaurants. I'm still fasting, but I'm not fasting as long. And I would do normally eight hour fast during the week. Depending on the day, I needed to forty eight hour plus fast than one four hour thing. But um, this is uh, you know, this is like seventeen hours. I'm doing like seventeen, which I think is fine. I think seventeen is fine for the birthday week. And then I get back my schedule

and I mentioned the key we returned. I had briefly brought this up on the radio show, but I got a phone call from my my friend Darcy Waldergrave, who I used to be on with every week in New Zealand on Radio Sport and they closed up Radio Sport because of the pandemic. He completely shut it down. So I said, hey, how are you doing everything all right?

And we had a brief conversation and Darcy mentioned that while Radio Sport is dead and buried and they're not going to bring it back, it does sound like we could be reunited. And he said he's got a new show that he's doing here on a big news talk station in Auckland, New Zealand, is huge blow towards station. And though we are in talks, guest gun for me to be the international correspondent for his station. What's that? Mostly sports, but whatever is going on in the US

pop culture. We can can do that. Any any idea when that would be agin? I don't know. He just called me the other day. He said he was working some stuff out and he would get back to me, and I think he will. The fact that he called me and I tried calling him back though, because I was he called me like right at the end of We Don't Break, but one of the pauses that we took during the show, so he called me like like a minute. I said, hey, I got a minute. I'll

call you back. So I called him back and like for some reason the call wouldn't go through, but he was able to call me. I don't know. It's it's pretty far to get to New Zealand from from where we are. But but anyway, all right, so we put the baby to bed, Yes, guests, we put the baby to bed. Listen, thank you, appreciate you for downloading it. We'll we'll stay away from the third rail. We'll try not to do that in future podcast. But you know, it's a good event, all right, it's good event. It

feels nice to do that every once in a while. Um, we all have cabin fever and so we can complain wine, bitch, moan, belly, ate, the whole thing. Have a great day today and we'll catch you next time here on the fifth hour.