Maller Odyssey

Another weekend is upon us. Remember the official start of the weekend, the roller coaster ride that is the Fifth Hour with Ben Maller. As we are back at it yet again, here on a Friday, a college basketball weekend, and I know that the podcast numbers are not going to go down because of the n c A A tournament. Because this podcast is a great companion, right, great companion to the n c A tournaments. Were not running a battle with that as a competitor. We are side by side,

side by side, and that we are joined. I looked at the schedule. I thought this must be a mistake. Yeah, I mean this he's due to not show up. But there he is, right there, David gascon Like setting in here. The rest of the four five hand, proud noise. I feel really good about about myself in the n C Double A tournament. Here nine o'clock Pacific in the morning time and then of course twelve o'clock Eastern for all those and I could say this comfortably now, Ben Mallory,

it's not Pacific Standard time. It was just Pacific time as we have leaked forward, thank god to uh the daylight savings. Now we will address that in future podcast because the whole time changed thing. They can get take that whole ball of wax and chuck it, especially for a nightcrawler like you are. True, I don't I don't get to it now. But because this is not about that, you know, this is an interview podcast. We've had very

powerful people. We've had CEOs, We've had legendary Hall of Fame broadcasters on we we have had big name athletes, super Bowl heroes like Plexico Burris. Uh. These are these are very important people, heroic people in the sporting world, peerless people, aristocrats. That's a lot. But the difference between me and you, guesscan is I am a man of the people. Okay, I am a man of the people.

I'm trying to teach you I'm trying to teach you the difference here and that I don't have a problem talking to the powerful, but I also like to talk to me the regular, not regular, but the the listener. Contributor is just as important. The one that gets their hands dirty adding to the show, uh, is just as important as a guy running a baseball team, or a big broadcaster or any of those people. I'm gonna I'm gonna pass that message a line of Leo terrell as uh as we've had him on as a guest. I

love Leo. Leo's great, Leo's a radio guy. I love talking to radio guys, but I also like talking to people that are behind the scenes. We're gonna talk to one of them in a few minutes, but before we get to that, all right, that's a tease, by the way, guests, guy, right, that's a tease. All right. I know you're gonna rise from the ashes of your career here, and you're gonna you're gonna be okay. Alright, anyway, so we were blessed on the Ben Mallory Show. It's an overnight show. Guest

gon you might have heard about it. You don't listen because you go to bed earlier. Yes, but we were blessed with a tremendous tune. Um and you know, I got my starting radio as a DJ. And there's a lot of phrases and slogans about music, you know, turning

music into memories and things like that. And uh, we have a love hate relationship with music on the show because I've always goofed on bumper music a Lee Klein who we've had on the show on this podcast multiple times, my radio buddy Lee Kleine from back in the day. And Lee would obsess over his bumper music, right sending out good vibrations uh and uh and and people would

call up and they wouldn't talk about sports. They'd ask, you know, what was that song you played coming into the into the talk set and it It was always ridiculous to me because it's spoken word radio. Why why would you obsess with the music which you only play forty five seconds of the music. But he would do it, and people would call up and they wanted to talk about the music, you know, and all that. Well, we

we have Roberto's the music. I don't I don't have any say over the music, any control over it on our show, but we have listeners that are very talented musicians that bring harmony to the world of the Mallard Militia. And one of those is a gentleman named Jay Scoop from Seattle along with Just Josh. These two guys, Just Josh is in Cincinnati, Jay Scoop is in Seattle, and these guys hooked up because of our show and collaborated together and have created a couple of songs over the years,

and they just released one this week. If you listen to the Overnight Show the other night, you heard this melody. We're about to play it right here, and it's it's called Mallard Odyssey. If you miss that podcast that was the Thursday podcast we played this, we debuted. I played Casey Kayson and uh boy, I love playing Casey Kayson on the on the Casey's a legend and it's just it's just wonderful too. So I keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars. What all?

What a great catchphrase? Anyway, this is the tune now, it's actually just Josh is singing. Jay Scoop is doing backup vocals on this and let's let the music tell the stories. Music to your ears is what it is here. It is Fox Control to Ben Malla. Everyone loves the donkey and I like being the donker Fox Control. Then I love losers. I'm a fan of losers. Check you out, then send down good headphones on Fox Control to Ben ma h, he's got the cleanest ask at Jack a

radio box turned on. You pay me five on a thousand dollars, will endorse the game magazine look Fu Grandinns and Rutburn tells cooking too. You want to poop me biek kicking say this is Fox Control to me? Your Monala made the great and I Alicia wants to hear what you had to say, and it's time to leave the melons. Care. This is Penno to bus Control. I'm lifting from my chair and I'm flouting in the airy where Eddy got see in the very Different Today? Does

it sounds like I'm talking in the tan? Care? Continue and there's nothing I can do. Job bye. Just Josh who was the lead singer in this, and Jay Scoop doing the backup vocals, and we're actually gonna chat with j Scoop here momentarily he is standing by, standing by, as they say in Big Time Radio and podcast programs. But before we get to J Scoop, Uh, you have not heard that song before Gascon? You don't listen to the overnight show. Uh. Your initial thoughts on this piece

of music magic here just outstanding? Well, a couple of things. I will say it's a job well done. First of all, I think that's a plus production. I thought the acoustics were good, thought the vocals were fantastic. And I think when you combine all that together, the timeline on the track is only two minutes of nineteen seconds, And I think that's important because as good as it is, it probably would have gotten progressively worse had it been three

or four or five minutes. So short and sweet and to the point I thought was what was the home run hack on that? And I thought the guys did a good job. Well. I've stressed that, you know when when when guys do song parodies on the show, I've said, less is more. I learned that from my Heart University many years ago. But less is more and when in doubt leave it out. Guests learned that as well. I mean,

you think about TV shows. TV shows that are are non comedy related are typically sixty minutes long, but all comedy shows are only thirty minutes in length because you need to get to the punchline, get to the jokes, get to the funny, and be quick and be memorable

and then get the hell out. Yeah. I mean it's a phrase that we've all learned, like, you know, make them want more, leave them wanting more, and if you can keep it shorter, and it makes it easier for you too, And so Jay Scoop did a great job on that and and You're welcome. You're welcome, Gascon. You know, not to blow my own horn here, but there's no other way you would be mentioned in a professional sounding song.

You were part of the lyrics there. West of the four oh five made it into a song and your name was the one of the final lyrics of this particular tune. Was you. I like to You're welcome as a closer, not a starter, but as a closer. And I think you would agree with me that there's no one else on this network upper management that has your back like West in the four O file. You got my back last time you show up, you have my back. It's a ringing endorsement from from Gaston Gascan. I always

called you the name of the district attorney. Uh, we're gonna met you guys on the recall, So I understand. I get it. It's the age of the recall and they all have the same it's all blaming the same people for the recall, no personal accountability, which is why they're being recalled. But it's the beauty of mine. Anyway. List enough about that. Let's go now and welcome in

a man, a myth, a legend. Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show week days at two am Eastern eleven Empacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. J Scoop, that's right, the man of the hour right here from Seattle, a decorated member of the Mallard Militia who helped put that song together in collaboration with Just Josh, who was the lead singer,

and Jay Scoop. You are the answer to a tribute question. I believe you are the first listener that we have had on the podcast because Gascon does not want to put anyone that's a fan of the show on the air. So congratulations, you have defied the odds here, J Scoop, Yes, I broke that glass ceiling. Finally it's been done. And I consider in an honor. Yeah, well, I considered an honor that you spent a good amount of time working

on this song. And I know you have a passion a few music, Jay Scoop, I've heard that about you, and I've i've met you. We'll get to that later. But how long did this particular song, Mallard Odyssey take to put together from start to finish? Oh my gosh. I mean, you know, it can be tough because you know, just like a lot of artists, painters and whatnot, you'll sit there and you'll have you'll have a product in front of you you're trying to do, but you'll you'll

keep nitpicking. You'll want it to be better and better. So you know, you could you could have had a crap song. They're probably a couple of months ago, but of course we're gonna keep going to the well and trying to make it better and better. So I believe Jeff Josh said it properly that when we first considered this song, it was actually a couple of months ago, so um, probably around about two two and a half months just for that two minutes and whatever twenty seconds

that you got on the radio. Yeah, and we well we were saying in j school, but you did a great job. Is less is more? You know that you don't you don't want to go too long that you know, especially in our format, you know, the shorter the better, Right around two minutes is like, that's the goldilocks on that's if you can get you a minute thirty to two minutes a little over that to thirty, that's perfect.

And you did it. So whose idea was it? I mean, you guys have worked together on stuff in the past. Here that was it? Just Josh the callege up said hey, I got an idea. Were you like, hey I got something here or were you guys just searching for something? Yeah. So our current trend has kind of been that we go, we we alternate. So I think I had done the last one. I'm spacing out which one was the one prior? But this time it was Josh, so he was the

one that chose this. Actually asked them before before you guys contact me. I'm like, well, what why, why did you choose this one, and and he said, well, to be honest, uh, I was high as a kite listening to David Bowie and and then I said, it's changed the line to Fox Control the Ben Miller and that's how it originated. And so he took it and ran from from there with it. But yeah, it kind of just go. We go back and forth. He'll he'll pick

a song. I'll be like, okay, I either love that song. Honestly, when I first heard his submission on this one, I was like, I don't know. It's a little bit older, though, is that One'm gonna be okay? It's like no, you know, there's definitely enough demographic that are going to know the song. And trust me, with the idea that I have on this, it's probably going to transcend for the the younger listeners

as well. And that's what it seemed to do. Yeah, well, I know absolutely mean any you know song and this is a classic, right you can? You can? It's generational, it's timeless, you know, and not that that song is particularly timeless, but but yeah, I agree with you know.

Obviously it worked. People loved it. You guys, uh, I hope you you got all those nice things that people were saying about you, j Scoop, but I got an email from people that was great, you know, not just the people on social media, but people that aren't on social media that that loved it as well. So you guys absolutely nailed it. Absolutely. Now you've been the sing you've been the lead guy. You were not the lead

guy this time, Jay Scoop, just Josh sliding over. I know you have a music background, does just Josh to me? I don't think he does. I don't know him that well, but I don't think he's got a great musical background like you had, right, No, he doesn't. And and it kind of happened by accident, because what typically happens is he you know, again we you know, we're picking the song, but it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that I'm going

to sing and do whatever. Well, when we were first pitching this song and he's bringing it up and he's telling me the lyrics and whatnot, and then some along the line, he did he just did like a short clip and sent it to me just so I could kind of understand what direction he was he was going with it. And I listened to it and I'm like, man,

this sounds really good. And and you know, I went back and I listened to David Bowie because I'm a stickler for you try to whether it's parody or not, you're trying to sound and and do as much justice

for the original artists as you can't. So I'm listening to David Bowie and his voice, and I'm like, it just Josh has this twang in his voice that just has something with I don't know if it's like that British thing or what, but I was like, I know, for me, it's probably gonna take a little while to get it down to sound just like that, whereas it was just coming off natural. I don't know if he's been singing this song his whole life as a fan

or what, but it was perfect. So I I told him, I'm like, dude, I think you're the one to do this song and I think I made it. But cheeks clench up a little bit because he didn't have any experience with that. But yeah, yeah, well that's great. And so because of the Internet, obviously, you guys can you're in totally different cities and you're far across the country from each other, and you know you just did you record together or did you did did you do your part?

I mean, you get you had to do this together. I would assume right the timing and all that, but did Josh, how did it work? Is what I'm trying to say. Did you do it? Uh? You know, on the weekends or when did this take place? We're pretty much going. Once we got rolling, we were going every day. But the problem is if you know, be done recording. Um, it's the best if the person is right there because when they do it, take and be like, hey, you know that part was messed up there, this was sharp,

this was flat? Hey that cut out? And and we didn't have that because he's all the way in Cincinnati and I'm out here in Seattle. So what I would do is have him do some takes. But the problem in the beginning was he had some kind of I don't know, radio shock headset Mike, and the thing was cutting out the end of lines. And I'm like, I can only do so much magic on my on my

MacBook Pro. You know, like I'm not. I'm not some high level studio and have all all this crazy equipment, So I'm like, I need a solid take from you, Matt. So eventually he finally picked up a decent mike on the store on the way home how him do a bunch of takes and then I basically just had to go deep into the logic pro software and try to make it sounds good when you added the drops, which made me sound like a goofball. But they were very they were nice, they were clean, they were smooth. How

the heck did you get those? Did did somebody on the inside give you those? Or did you just take those off the podcast? Come on, man, it's all about the podcast. When you when you know, you know exact actually where Roberto is gonna drop those nuggets on the show, and go in there and and pluck them out. Sometimes it can be hard because you guys aren't given the right ones, and then you just got to go back

into the archive a little bit. But I had a little little experience before when I did a little thing called the Drop Chronicles. I just grabbed a bunch of the drops that were my favorite favorites and then I put them over over a tune and just kind of made fun fun with it. But uh, I want you to know Jay scoop that and you you Listen, you've been a listener. You know this because these are damaging quotations that are used as drops, and they are out

of context. Like sometimes we get new listeners to the show and they hear you know, they're new. We go on new radio stations and people are sampling the show and they hear this, and it's they're like, oh, this is ridiculous. I can't believe you would say that they have no idea J Scoop that you know, I'm talking about something totally different, which in context makes sense, and then out of on text makes me sound like, you know,

chuckles the clown, how dare them? Jay School? But I love the drops in the song it was and Roberto to me, that's the funniest one poopy pie that's out me. Especially the way it went with the music right there. It just made it sound like, oh yeah, like it was shocking. But you're right. But to be fair, you do that to the other guys too, and that's why we have content for them as well. Well that's not true. Listen, Eddie as says so many dumb things, and that they

these guys don't cut those drops up. They don't, uh. I mean, we've there's only a few Eddie outtakes. There are so many more Eddie outcome it's so big I can hardly get my mouth around it. And well, yeah, but you know, most of them are like my favorite drop as the Canadians beat the Canadians, which is great. It's like a parody on Saturday Night Live back in the day, which is uhh. And the fab the Fab five when he couldn't pronounce the Fab five that was

that was also out standing. In Indeed, so I've been told by people Ja School that we need to cancel the Talent Show, that this is so good that your work along with your guy there just josh, this dynamic duel, that we don't even need to have a talent show. That you've already won the Talent Show, you've won in the past multiple times, and then this is over. Should we have the Talent show? J School, Well, you know, I'm all for for the next generation and encouraging creativity.

So I would never say to stop the Talent Show. But if you want to do some something, I don't know. I can't think of what would be the alternate solution. I do kind of consider myself kind of like the Green Bay packers though of the Talent Show World and that I won the first two, But then that makes me worry because they didn't win another one until like how many years later, So I'm hoping that's not not the Friends. But I definitely think the townships got to continue.

I mean, we got all the guy you got people burping songs and and of course, hey Mona, I mean, you're you're gonna lose that magic if you stop the Talent Show, so you gotta continue. All right, Well, we will have to have different layers to the Talent Show. We'll have to have multiple winners. Um, you know, everyone will get a participation price. But no, I mean we'll have a few winners. We're not gonna have everyone's gonna win,

and we will, oh yeah, we'll have it. Sometimes. Usually it's in June, right around um they used to call the dead zone. There's really no dead zone, but after the NBA Finals, before football gets going, before training camp gets going in football, that's typically around the time that we do it. There you go. You gotta name that thing, though, just like the Genie and Medford Color of the Year, and you gotta you gotta name some of those ones that people will feel like a tie to you know,

something like you gotta brand it right. It's all about Brandy And sorry David, but you know we we we had to we had to go after whatever target was in view, and and and you popped up, you silhouetted yourself. So yeah, so I thought it was great. And it was great and it's the only way guests got will ever be mentioned in the song. So's uh, Jay Scoopy did a good job, and Ben and I had talked about that a few moments ago. But I want to ask you this, and it has to do with with

the end goal. Um I was. I was realizing this when I listened to the song that you and Josh had put together. But you actually have something unique in common with doctors and lawyers. Do you know what that is? Oh? God? What's that they have both gone into debt by taking on for the education. And you are the remember the malor militia that has actually gone into debt because you

had to cater and wind dine. Ben Mallord when he made his trip up to Jay Scoop, he is so he is so bitter about how much of a line of credit do you have in order to get that guy up there, and what is the end goal for you on all this? Like I just I'm baffled by all of it. Glad we all know you don't tell people how the hot dogs are made, So all I can say is that had to do with the saving of a few coupons here there possibly you know, look at that, see that gascon. This guy's a frugal travel

consultant guy. J School unbelievable. And and let me tell you, Jay Scoop, you were part that Mallard meet and great which we at the time at the end of nineteen we were like, okay, you know, I was like I'm gonna I had a plan to go to Cincinnati. I was gonna go to Minnesota and do one of these things.

And that was the last one. That was it right before the calendar flipped to and we all know what happened in But that was we had a really good time hanging out with everybody, and um didn't get into the Seahawk game, but uh, I got to stand outside the stadium. It was a nice stadium, beautiful stadium and all that, and UH had had a wonderful time and and then like all all the crazy stuff happened after that, but that March when we were walking around the streets

of Seattle, Jay Scoop, it was. It was awesome. It was great. I had such fun that day, dude, that was so much fun. But I was so worried because I was looking at your face as we're going through there and ed belting out building it out on that megaphone and people are looking at it like like like we're crazy, and then I'm looking at your face and you're just like okay, I'm kind of probably kind of embarrassed. I don't know what to do. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah,

it was. It was very awkward for me because it was you know, you were there. We had as you said, you know, Robbie the Mariner fan had had popped in. We had uh, you know, big names, big names in the Mallam militia who showed up there edding Spokene and his uh, I guess they're getting married here, his future I don't if they're married yet, don't think they're married, but anyway, his wife or future wife and uh in

marching around. He's got the bull horn. We're holding up fat heads because I don't know where those came from. But somebody got his fat heads. And so we're marching through the streets of Seattle on a Sunday late afternoon and you know, he's edding, spoken, screaming out you know chance, you know, hey, ho, here we go, you know, Ben Maller Show or something like that, and all these people

are looking at us like who are these idiots? You know, and they're like, you know, homeless people trying to sleep and we're waking them up. And uh, it was It was wild. It was crazy, but a good time. And we actually I did that night showing up at the end and that's remember. But we were making a push to try to get They had the what was it the Sunday night um football like set up there were they're gonna be over there like let's try to get Ben's face on the camera. You're trying to do stuff.

But you know, I think it was time for them to fill him or whatever. But we were we were doing the best we could to get the exposure. Yeah, they were taping Colmsworth was they had this studio set up right where all the Seahawks fans were hanging out to get ready and forty fans like yourself. But we're getting ready for the for the game, and you know, it's kind of mulling about, and then it was yeah, we had Ed and it'll do anything. Ed's like the guy that will like jump out of a building. He'll

he'll do any of that. He'll he'll go nuts o for that. But yeah, you need a guy and you've got a price. You might not even have to give him the price. You just say it and he'll do it. But I love that about it. Yeah, he's a character. And the JJ from Renton who showed up and j J. It was great because he he he was right up until kickoff. J J was coming back and he's like,

I'm gonna get your ticket. I'm gonna get you in this adium, right, So I'm hanging out and you know, we were like going back and forth and you couldn't get the ticket. I guess he has a relative that works in the ticket office with the Seahawks. But that that was such a hot game that there were no no tickets available even for a loser like myself here and so we ended up going right across the parking

lot there. Well you were at you had tickets, Jay Scoop, So you got to go into the game, but we we went out and uh watched the game at some some restaurant. It was great right at wonderful time. But I brought I think Robbie was with us, and we had ed from spoken and a bunch of a bunch of the big stars there that were there. So it was a lot of fun, good time. Yeah, for sure,

it was. It was a blast. And even the night excuse me, the night before meeting everybody there and some of them that couldn't couldn't make the game, and then the prizes lead handed out. I gave up some oodles and noodles and talk hard lemonade and stuff like that. It was a lot of fun. There were a lot of people, a decent show up. Yeah, it was a good turn It was a good turn out, and you never know who was going to show up, and you don't expect anyone to show up to these things. But

it was a lot of fun. And uh that was also awkward when I walked into the restaurant and people started changing my name. That was very awkward, very awkward there, but it was It was a lot of fun. Jay Scoop and I told just Josh this, I said, you know, you guys, Now you put a couple of songs together,

you keep this up. I'm thinking like a Mallard Show theme like album type thing, or you can all put these in one place, because I gotta be able to monetize it though, Jay scooped right, there's gonna be a way you can. You can make some money somehow. But they're they're good songs for sure. It's tricky because you know, when we're using songs that already exist in parody, you know, they're really quick to jump onto you if you when you do that, you got to do a certain way.

That's where I'm not as keen on on how it works. But but yeah, we started with it. It's all because of Quarantine. We started with that first little little snippet of that what is it uh uh Neil Diamond Forever and Quarantine. Yes, that was great. That was solid, absolutely and and and also really a song for the times, right, That's one we'll play later and we'll be like, oh, this is this is perfect. This sums up what that time was like exactly. But who would have known it

would we would still be in Quarantine. You know the reason why we did it was because we were still crazy, but little did we know we weren't even close to being done. Yeah, well, you could always move to like Texas or Mississippi or something like that and you'll be out of quarantine. But you know, on the West coast here, J Scoop, on the West coast, quarantine never ends, although it is getting a little better in California. So finally there's a there's a light at the end of the tunnel.

As they say, Jay School, you wanna I know you're on Twitter, you wanna give out ways people can contact you here and get ahold of and all that good stuff. Yeah, for now, just my personal at Jesse Crean's a es se c r E a n on on Twitter, and my band which will be changing names but we'll update it on there. But my band is at Rhino Rising. At Rhino Rising, very very cool. Al Right, well, Jay Scoop, thank you man. I appreciate the work you and Josh

did making that song. It was a enjoyable so everyone loved it. And uh, I don't think you mentioned Cooping there, which is good too. I don't think he gotta he gotta know he was right before it went in the chorus. He did the baby oh that's right. There you go, there you go, but not a name. He didn't get no lyrics though he wasn't mentioned in the lyrics though with that left out, all right, thank you Jay School, alright, buddy,

thanks Jay Scoop. Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am eastern eleven pm pacifect on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show week days at two am eastern eleven pm Pacific