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You hear that screeching, that's the person that's gonna be on here in a minute an interview podcast, and he's screeching in the background. Not a professional, bad job by him. But guests gone with me yet again as we do this podcast, and you can follow me all over the place on Twitter at Ben Maller, Instagram, Ben Maller, on Fox Facebook, Ben Maller Show, and on Cameo Cameo dot Com Ben Maller. But I'm not gonna even introduce guest Gone because he jumped the gun on this, so I'm

gonna go right to it. We welcome in now a renaissance man a Television Dennis A. Newshound, a member of the Fox Sports Radio Alumni Association, who's making a lot of noise in the background right now, give it up for time. Loony, there he is right there, the great time. Wow. I love that you refer to me as the Renaissance. Thank you very much. As you know, a big ben. I firmly believe every one of God's children has at least one area of genius. I have eleven one of them.

One of them is the Renaissance. I have been I have. I have explored the Renaissance. I've been to the birthplace of modern civilization in Florence. I have seen the Last Supper on the wall of a convent in Milan. Long before the Da Vinci Code, I was obsessed with Leonardo da Vinci. You can ask me anything you ever need to know about the O. J. Simpson trial or Leonardo da Vinci and I'm ready baby. Now you're just bragging. See now, now you're just being braggadocious and the humble bragging.

You know, no one likes the person that does the humble bragg Nobody likes that you said you sound like you sound like yescan is what you sound like. It's a humble in the house is what I usually like to say when I come out and said, guess one

of these Nicol and Dyed podcast humble Now. On a scale of one to ten, how annoyed are you the fact that I have broadcast quality audio, a professional radio industry standard microphone that I am talking into, an electro voice that I'm talking into, and you are on a tin can in string. On a scale of one to tend, how annoyed is Tom Looney? I can because I have all the equipment necessary, but your audio engineer had no idea what I was talking about when I started up

talking about technical shit. That's right. You can say shit on the podcast. That's why we can't say that on the damn radio listening. Guesscon's great. You should go back. I know you hate the podcast, but you should go back. Looney. We we have recorded some podcasts where we were just screaming on top of a hill at each other and uh, and it was recorded and broadcast and put on the internet for people to consume the audio and listen to. Uh. Free free content was placed on the internet for people

to consume. I mean, let me get in here real quick, because all of a sudden, I feel young again, which is nice amongst youtub sounds beautiful. It is thank you and some of the things that not. Tom. You gotta do us a favor before we get any Q and A sessions with you right now, Can you give me a favor. Since I know you're technologically savvy, can you go to your computer and put that sucker on mute so we don't get an indicator every time you get

a fucking email. Please, I really appreciate that. I think. Here's my here's my philosophy about noise in the background, technical stuff like that. We're just we're used to noise now in American culture. A matter of fact, it drives me crazy. I go hiking in the woods. There's a thousand acres behind my park, behind my house. I don't own those thousand acres, otherwise it wouldn't be here right now. But whenever I go hiking, I can't believe that people

need music in their ears. The birds chirping aren't enough, or the silence that gives us chance for wonder isn't enough. People need noise, And so believe me, the noise in the background at my place isn't gonna bother any of your your mutants that listen to this thing because they need noise. Yeah, looney, you're becoming the get off my long guy. You're becoming to get off my life. What happened to get off you? Happy? You would know you've

actually always been like that, loony. Remember in the old days, and when we'd have new producers and they chime in but they didn't say their name, you would you would scold them. You would pull them aside in the bottles of Fox Sports Radio and and lecture them that whenever they turn their mic and they have to say their name, you were defense. I would yell at them on the

air because it's bad radio. When there's all of a sudden, there's this there's this voice that comes in from out of nowhere, you know, a little squeaky voice like that a child actor you have on your other show, and out of the clear blue sky. And then people are clueless that they tune in to hear the star of the show and the star the squeaky voices for people. People don't know who they People inside the building know who the voices are, but the people listening to the

show ideally aren't just the five people who side. Well, and you made me like Luony the people I know you were on that you talk about Rinky Dink that Brian Finley podcast. You were on with that and we Rinky didnk podcast. Yeah, yeah, well Finley he fills in when Eddie takes time off, and he's usually like to go to filling guy for me and Finley he's lacking

in somebody like he. I don't think he knew what above the Marquis or headliner what he didn't know those terms, like basic terms that I felt like every once, you know, on the Marquis, Right, So I think I said something like I'm on the Marquis or something like that. He didn't really know what that meant. How's that possible, Looney? That in in a guy and he's a grown ass man does not know what that means. Well, yeah, and especially you and I always wanted our names above the Marquis.

Of course, that's right, you want you wanted where Schwarzenegger and stallone over the years and and all the great actress Daniel Day Looney, you know how dave name about the market? Yeah, it is. It is wild there, but we've had, you know, in the old days, we had

some really legendarily horrific people that worked. I had one board op well, I had one guy that missed an entire Top of the Hour because he didn't I guess he said profit had an issue, so he missed an entire Top of the Hour commercial break updates thousands of dollars he missed. I had another guy in the before. We had a guy one time that played nothing but you know this guy Loony played nothing but Yahoo games back when that was a big thing in the early

two thousands, and oh my god. The one time on the air, I got in an argument on the Louni and Dave show about you know, my cousins a priest, and Dave goes on the air and says, you know, not knowing this, Dave said, you know people who go into that occupation as a predisposition for the molestation, right, And I said, I said, it's not like it wasn't the conversation off the air, this is on the air, and I said, and I said, bullshit, And that that guy you were talking about was on the other side

of the room playing solid air and you see him sprint across the room to press the dump. And then he told me, oh, I got it. Oh, I got it. That night I went to an l A Laker game and John Ireland, who worked for the Lakers, walked up to me and said, Hey, you said bullshit on the radio today. Yeah, that was the new guy. I was a new guy. So I didn't get in any trouble. You know how that goes. Oh yeah, well, speaking of that whole sick now you're getting me the greatest Looney

story I can possibly tell. When I first met Tom Looney over twenty years ago, was a long time ago. And and and so Looney had been the he was the gossip Pound. He had a gossip blog about radio, l A radio and yes, I was, well, I was. I was an in depth background journalist covering yes journalists another biased reporters. So they hired Looney as the update boy at the radio station, right and originally and so, um, I'll never forget it. You fucked up on one of

your updates, right, but the program director. But let's keep in mind on what I fucked up on. It was. It wasn't anything important. It was major League Baseball playoffs score. You screwed that up, which at the time was somewhat of a big deal. Uh, ur. It was like during the It was during the day too. It was like a daytime baseball playoffs. Yeah, and the score was like three to one. And I said, so I'll never so

you funk up. We were I was doing the show with Dave and you, not Dave Guesco, but David Smith, and you, uh, you screw up. The program actor comes rumbling and stumbling down the hall and yells at us for not correcting you. He doesn't yell at you. You're the one that made the mistake. He didn't say were you because you were the gossip guy and he didn't want to offend you. So instead, the rogame director yells in us, we're not even listening to you, and he's

yelling at That's the power of Looney. It was not only that, not only the power of me, but also you learned as a very young broadcaster yourself at the time. Uh, you learned what politics was all about. He didn't hire you, but he hired me. He yelled his fair haired boy had the fair haired boy also had a column where I talked about radio. Right, so you you took all the ship. Tom. Correct me if I'm wrong, because that

story is pretty good. But I think my favorite story I've heard from you two guys is that the one that you I guess you you kind of misplaced or confuse a couple of shirts. Be sure to catch live editions of the Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Yes, yes, well, I've actually gave me a lot of respect from too great. Two things gave me respect for Ben because before this happened, I

had none. So anyway, I I uh so what happened was an Extra Sports eleven fifty along came Fox Sports Radio employee, where we thrilled to have an association with the syndicated guys that we're gonna take all our shows, right, so uh so Fox Sports Radio came along, and then they knew that there was some resentment there because they were going to take over an afternoon drive and some nighttime shows and we were all local twenty four hour at the time, and so people were bitter, and so

they sent us all our own really cool Fox Sports Radio shirts, and mine was a large and you know what a weightlifting machine I am, So I decided I needed an extra large, so I went into Ben's mailbox and stole Ben's extra large I should point out higher than me. So now, looney, let me then be point out. Looney, let me point out that the shirt in fairness and extra large would not have fit me at that time. All right, I mean, I mean point that out right there.

It was rather large in those days. I steal an extra extra large. Yeah, it was at least a two x. It had to be at least okay, okay, And so then I succeed at that. No witnesses, nothing, no cameras back at the time. Uh, And we were riding horse and buggies to work. There were no cameras at the time. And the studios or the security cameras. So that night, like her game, and where do I see Ben? Of course in the media room or was there's the free food before the game? I was working, man, I was

working sources. I was I was talking to Big Joe McDonald and Jim Hill and those guys. I was getting inside. Okay, that's right. I was working the buffet also, yes, and over near the buffet, I see Ben. Is that Ben? And Ben says nothing to me because he shuns me like I'm an amish first and wearing a bikini, right,

damn right, So so I said to myself. Then Ben goes and sits down, and I finished getting my food, and well, I gotta go sit with Ben because because I must be loved, I'm irish, right, Ben refusing to talk to me, So I gotta go fix this. I'm a fixer. So I went and sat down. I said Ben, how are you doing? He said not too good? I said why? And Ben, some asshole at work stole my shirt sits out our next sexel for a large Yeah.

I didn't know. He had no proof, but somehow he knew, and so I fessed up immediately because I had to fix it immediately. So I told him right away because who knows no matute what age we were. We weren't eleven, right, he did not know an eleven year old looney, that's true? Yeah, and uh and I and I. So it was an indefensible thing that I did, incredibly immature. I did it. Had Ben just right up front told me he knew that jig was up, and so I fixed it right there.

Another great Ben story about telling people exactly how he feels to their face. We had a producer nobody liked and had a real nasty attitude, and and just what we only set it behind his back. Nobody complained to management nothing and so, because he was actually quite a frightening character. But but Ben walks in one day and Ben needed a chair to do some prep for the show. And Ben said to this bad guy, excuse me, piece of ship, I need that chair. I was always good,

luny with the relations I learned. You know about that that famous book, right, you gotta remember people's names and all that stuff. And yes, yes it was Dale Carnegie How to Win Friends. And that's right, that's right. You were the one that told me about I read the book. I didn't listen to anything in it, but I did

read the book. You know. I did the absolute attention to the book and that guy because that guy had the fowless mouth in the most wicked temper, and that Ben would walk in and tempt the short temper guy with that. Well, well, I also had I had a size advantage over everybody, so I could get away with some of that stuff because I could just crush them if I had to at that at that time, but I mean we had so many remember the trip to we all went to cover the Lakers against the Pacers

in Indianapolis. We spent like a week in Indianapolis doing shows. We got it was the NBA Finals and it was it was you know, it's a it was a three four three, right, I'm sorry three. Yes, it's a best of ten. They changed the finals out to the best of ten. No, it seemed like seven, but it was the best of ten. That's looney math is what that is. But we we the entire radio station and and a lot of people don't know this that that only heard us on Fox Sports Radio. But we did a morning show.

We had the Looney and Ben Morning Show that we which made for a very awkward set up because if you remember Looney, we we had carried at that time the Bob and Tom Morning Show, right, which is which is based in Indianapolis. That and that was very part. It's still on, but it was very popular syndicated morning show, the Bob and Tom Show, and we were doing, yeah, we were doing our our morning show and covering up Bob and Tom. And remember didn't one of the guys

from the show come out there. And it was very it was like very awkward. I yeah, we had to interview that the sports guy came out to the Hollywood Hollywood Film Works and spa. Remember that's where we did our we did. It was like a free country. We did a radio show and Indianapolis had no rules about small oaking and drinking. We were doing a radio show while smoking and drinking. I smoke cigarettes at the time. It was really it was like a free country. It

was great. And uh, we didn't live from the in Indianapolis, a Hollywood uh film Works and spawn people would people could drink beer, smoke cigarettes and watch movies in this place. And it was a bar and chicken wing place and we had a blast. But one of the guys in the Bob and Tom show came down and we and we had to interview him. And little did he know that it's you know that we weren't even using their show anymore. Oh, yeah, they were, they were, they were.

That was actually the second time. I think this one predates you. But in the early days of AM eleven fifty, they were carrying the fabulous sports Babe, right and uh and so they Yeah, this was before Looney. It's a great story. Anyways, I'll tell it because I have it in my head. So the radio station had a big Gallas social event. In fact, I remember it was at Dodger Stadium because they were becoming the Dodger station. You just got text there. So they were becoming the Dodger station.

And so she was on the station, some other big names. So they flew all these people out that you know, she did the show from I think Connecticut or Florida or whatever. So they flew out to l A to meet in kind of a hob knob and socialized and schmooz with all these executives and all these They brought a lot of advertisers in. Well, the problem was that the the event was on a Friday like night or

something like that, the social event. But I think it was Larry Stewart in the l A Times that Friday morning had reported that the station was planning on pulling her show off the air. And uh, she came, Oh my god, Luny. She came in there a ball of fire, as I you would expect, right, you flew all the way out for a social event to pro motor radio station that's about to pull your show, and uh, I'll

never forget. It was so awkward and so uncomfortable, and uh, it's like you wouldn't like the planning who decided, hey, let's fly her out, but we're gonna get rid of the show in like a week. And it didn't make any sense to me, but that that kind of stuff happening all the time, Oh I had. It happened in eleventh grade when our our English teacher Elsen, who was also assistant wrestling coach, needed how he bought this farmhouse,

this all broken darmed farmhouse. So it's gonna take six of the wrestlers out to help him, you know, get to junk out and paint it and stuff. And they picked me up last at my house and I got in the car and he said, before you come help me refurbish my house, I gotta let you know I failed. You want to come, Well, let's let's see. That's a good thing, that's an honest thing, because you do all that. And then it was it was great. I came. I figured, well,

here's the here's the thing to do. Maybe I'll come anyway and he can give a call to the principle and then they he'll tell he'll fess up until he made a mistake. And I think exactly it happened. Oh really, Oh that's great. It got changed on my report card because I went out. I went out there and put a few coats of paint on his house. Yeah yeah, yeah, that's great. So what would a big ben have done in that situation. I wouldn't have done. I would have spit. Yeah,

you fucking dick, go to hell. I'm done with you. That's it. But uh, but I gotta, I gotta. Yeah, we know you're the TV dennist. We know you're I know, I know all about it. But there's a lot of fans I get. I get messages about your dumbass all the time. Where's Loony? Bring Loony back? We missed Loony and all this ship? So what since you got pole axed by the company here, you have gone on, You have gone on to bigger and better things here, And

what what is it? Well, first of all, let me see I went on to keep my blue check mark. You did. But how is Live treating you post Fox Sports Radio? I say, member of the Fox Sports Radio Alumni Association. Oh well, it's been wonderful, you know. As you know, I was the spokesperson for l I Bank, the TV dentist also did uh for Buffalo Wild Wings. I not only did a Super Bowl commercial playing a

sportscaster because I'm such a great actor. I also then went on to do one for March Madness that nobody saw. Now you're bragging. See now again you're bragging, and you didn't. I didn't see the super Bowl commercial. You told me about it, but I didn't you see it? What's up with it? I'll believe me. Ben. I have got a copy of my own that I will send you and the TV dentist? Did you get paid every time that commercial air because that thing aired a lot that was

on TV? Yeah, it's really cool. You get one check for when it's on cable you get enough, and then for locals you get a check for a certain amount every time it runs on let's say on the original thirteen, and then you get a certain amount for the first ten times, and after that it cuts in half. But still it's a nice chunk of change. Wouldn't it be great? If? Again? You know what made me feel great? I reminded myself

of the great justin I went out. It was my first audition after getting pole axed by Fox Sports Radio. I said, I'll go out to some acting auditions and it was the first one I went to, and I got good the first one I went to. That's what it wouldn't be wonderful for us, Luny in radio always this always upsets me, like I'm so jealous of television and movies and things like that. Right, wouldn't it be wonderful in radio if we could still get paid from shows we did, like the old Blitz back you know,

seven eight years ago. We got paid because somebody downloaded it and we got a little check, Like even if it was fifty cents, I would be full. Nobody who Nobody's going back and listening. We have all this, We have an archive of vault of audio content from the last twenty plus years of radio broadcasting. And we don't get paid at time for that, not at dime. I'm

not I'm not done talking about myself yet. After getting pole axed at Fox Sports Radio, not only did I do that commercial, big Ben, I got hired as a real news anchor. Im I'm a journalist now, but a real journalist, not a fake journalist like you. A real journalist giving my objective point of view on the news of the day on k ABC in Los Angeles. That is a legendary That is a legendary news station. Uh.

KRBC was when I was a kid, you know. Of course I used to listen to you on the radio and I was a kid, and that was the business. K ABC was a big deal. They were the top radio station in Los Angeles. But you are really in many ways louting your broadcast. You were like the mocking Bird media of of broadcast. And you admit that, right, Mockingbird, mocking Bird Media. Yeah, you're not familiar with that. You. Oh,

you don't know this, Ludi doesn't know. All of a sudden, I feel like Brian Friendly, Oh you gotta look this up. Operation mocking Bird, Right, so this is this is all Gascon knows what I'm talking about here. But this was supposedly a c I A program that began in the Cold War, and it was a super secret program to manipulate the news media for propaganda purposes. Right, so it's it's media. Oh wow, Well, now I just get the Northeastern liberals just to send me emails and tell me

what to say, and I'm off. You get the talking points memo and you're like, okay, I'm good. I know what team mom on and I am running with it now. You can never you consider yourself a limousine liberal with that? How you you would describe yourself a limousine liberal? Want to be? Because I don't have the limits yet. I gotta I gotta tell you loudy forest fire. I have trouble, like, how do I give a liberal point of view on a forest fire? It's really hard. You can point to

climate change? No, that's right one, yeah, because sometimes things are so slow. I pray for forest fire. Yeah. Different. Now here a question real quick, Tom, because when you worked here with us at Fox, traditionally you retire was like jean shorts and a Muhammad Ali black shirt. So when you work for KBC, do you just wear a black BLM shirt? Oh? Yeah, Well, first of all, I was wearing those shorts long before a white he came along.

I've had those shorts for four years. I'm not but my white ass was on that fat The thing I've read done about that question is jean shorts? You did? You were shorts? Guy? I have I have lost a different white guy short. They're not Jane short, A lot of the same on the same one that Harball wears. Harbor. I got Ludy. You gotta get your liberal friends to be more like you, because I love, I love, I don't go we bash each other all the time, which is great, man, But some of these other people they're

so sensitive they can't take the ribbing. They can't go back and forth. And I think everyone's and then aunt makes fun of themselves. The number one thing when you're when you're blow viating about politics, says who says, I'm fucking right exactly. I mean, that's my point, and that's why I love you. You know, our converence. We talk a lot, we text a lot, and it reminds me I've talked a lot when I was growing up my parents.

My mom liberal, my dad conservative, and they would duke get out about the issues of the day at the dinner table. But it was kind of in a fun way. And then at the end of dinner they would, you know, hug it out or whatever, and they go, we we go watch TV. Now, Oh I'm gonna I can't. I've listened to your show for fifteen years, but you gave an opinion. I don't like him on politics, and I'm not listening anymore. I mean, right, I know, I know

it's it's it's so insane that cancel culture. That's your that's your side, looney, cancel culture, that's yourself, and it's very bye. Sorry, just canceled. By the way, the Egyptians fucking inventive. The new Pharaoh would come along and you get on, you get hammer and chisel, and they would

chisel away at the statutes of the forever. But but what's great about our text is you know, I you'll find like a child molesting liberal who's poisoned his family, and then you will send the story to me and say, there's your guys. Well you'll do to say, you'll you'll find a conservative nut job who's got more guns than you know military somewhere does some racking things. I see, that is your guys, Mallard right there, there's you guys.

I think the one difference between you two, though, is that when you guys exchange text messages and correct me if I'm wrong. But Tom always finds the punctuation marks that are wrong with the Ben's text messages, of the

misspelling or the grammar mistakes. I used to do that, but now people a lot of times, including myself, will use talk to text, and sometimes that can be a you know I had recently, I'm texting with a friend, a younger friend who needs some mentoring and happens to be gay, and so at the end of the and fat. So at the end of the text message, I wrote, I love my gay brothers and it and it transplates I mean I said that, and I hit said and it said I love my fat brother and uh right.

And he's very sensitive about his weight, so that sometimes that talk to text doesn't go too well. Yeah, yeah, you do. You do that all the time, and U it's always I mean, there's words completely and you never check like when I do voice to text, like I'm a better person than you learning because I'll look at it to make sure that the spelling is is accurate and that all the time, and because because I'm usually ranting, because you know how I talk, and sometimes I rant

because you've tried to push my buttons. And I'm the type of guy where even when I know someone's pushing my buttons, I fall for it, even when i know it's happening, because I'm an emotional creature. And Ben takes advantage of that. To be fair, louny mean some of these stories are just low hanging fruit. I mean, they're so ridiculous and they don't get reported by the mainstream media.

So I when I see him, I'm like, oh, this is because the cool thing about it's one of the good things about social I think social media sucks mostly it's like brotal and is as it's like it's like the matrix. But one of the cool things is like everything's getting documented. Like, for example, earlier this week, we had that you know, small it's like a small nuclear bomb went out in bay Rout and there were seven there were seventeen hundred different camera angles of that thing

going off. Everyone put their phone on in in bay Rout and they were recording. Everyone's got a phone everywhere and they're recording this, and he saw the whole explosions wild. Well, yeah, I think I would. I would beg that. I would think that people in by Root. Remind you that they don't know if it was a small nuclear bomb. No, I said it was the size of a small nuclear pie. Wasn't Actually that's when they claimed jumbo shrimp. No, no, but then it was it wasn't it manure, I claim

it was like it was it was a fertilizer bomb. Yes, yeah, and they in the they make those in the military. They call him daisy cutters where it doesn't it doesn't burn everyone to death, but it just blows you, uh

sixty ft in another direction. Yeah, there was some. You know, it is amazing now where we have camera culture everywhere in the world and something like somebody can just be mundanely pointing their uh, which would normally probably be later useless footage, you know, at a fire and sooner or later, when you run out of memory, that's something you get

rid of. But instead, you know, you know, sixteen hundred tons of fertilizer blows up and you've got yourself on the Worldwide Web worldwide to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show week days at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. Yeah, it's it's it's insane. Now. I mentioned we we briefly did a morning show, the Mallard and Looney Morning Show or Luny and Malley whatever we called it there, and I think I'm here I had my

name first in the history of l A radio. I think that show and I don't think I'm being braggadocious here Looney had the same cultural impact as rick D's in the morning, Mark and Brian, Kevin and Bean. It was like it was right. It was a shorter show than those shows. We didn't have as long run as those guys, but that the impact we had on society is a local l A morning show was right up there with Kevin and Being Mark and Brian and Ricky's. You would agree with that, Yes, I would agree that.

When I walk into a seven eleven. It's the number one question I got when people recognize and they recognize you, you know, the lonely when they recognize you, they say, hey, I got a I got a problem with my back tooth. Can you take a look at it? Can you? Can you take a look? That's what happens now. Yes, yeah, Or they say, hey, are you the I from the best damn sports show period with Tom Arnold? Are you that guy? Are you the guy who did that used

to have at the drive through? Yeah? People would people would recognize it because if I'm she was for the drive do they recognize Yes? Yes. In fact, one of my favorite no no, not from the radio, but I I was on the sports list. I think it was called with Summer Sanders on Fox Sports Network that air. I taped this thing. It was a vignette show where you know they did like the Top ten so and so this is in the early two thousand's, probably like two thousand three, two thousand four. So I I taped

this in like two days. This thing aired for like eight years, and I was I was in line. I was living over in the apartment in Hollywood. I was at the Kentucky Fried Chicken getting popcorn chicken. I still remember what I was getting. I was getting popcorn chicken at Kentucky Fried Chicken on Beverly. Actually not on Beverley, it was on it was on third, third, third, it was what was what's the street? He was on Houser, What's the third It's just below Beverly anyway, whatever the

street was right near the grove over there. And and so I'm in line of Camci ordering my popcorn chicken, and the guy they happen to have the show on, he recognized me from the sports list and uh, and he was like all excited. I was like, I was awesome, it's great. He didn't give me the food free, but he was very excited. I was like, you're excited by that.

That's wild. My favorite about you being recognized was when you would go into the gym every night, late night to do cardio and the guy, the guy, the unfriendly guy working in front, would never say hello back to you, and it became this. You were fascinated by this, how this guy could be so unfriendly. Then the guy saw you on television. People are so funny, used to speak to you all said, hey, oh, I hate that I can't stay that loony You love that you love that

is that is l a in a nutshell? Yeah, and you gave him nothing back. No, No, I hate that I can't say that, you know, loony. I'm the guy, you know. When I was dating, I never and I would never even say I did radio because people, you know, they think, you know, they foolishly a lot of people think we make a ton of money, and some people do, but I don't, And so I would never when I was dating going on this, I would never even say

I was on the radio. I would say something else because I didn't want them to get the wrong impression. You know, be phony. I hated that. I can't stay. I still can't stand phony people. They bother me you're loony, Bob. How dare you? How dare you? Oh? Well, yeah, I say, I just it was one of those that, uh was kind of unforgettable because I could just picture you. It was perfect time for you to stick it right back. Yeah. Yeah. But as you as you know, I like to hold

the grudge as you as you know, I enjoy holding. Yes, you're much more. I stay mad five minutes. You stay mad about five years. No, no, I listen. There are people at that screwed me over. I I have a list, I have. I admitted I got a list. I keep believeing. Now. We did the bless How long did we do? About seven years? Was it seven years? Seven years? Every Sunday six hours? Actually it was more. Sometimes it was even more than that. And we do the NFL scores. I

love that show. That was one of the most enjoyable times of my career. I loved it. We had so much fun on that show. I missed it. It was a great The thing was one of the top icing on the kick was the fact that we would be watching those games anyway, because it was the NFL and so we would be home watching it, but instead we were in a studio watching the games, getting paid to watch the NFL and bloviate our opinions. Now, the first three hours were great radio because it was just you

and May. But then and sometimes during the first three hours, what was also cool as we would get to uh interview real broadcast, just like Dick Stockton and the IK Troy When and Chris Myers and guys that called the game Joe back then. Then the show went right down the toilet because after one the earlier, the one o'clock games on the East Coast would be ending at four o'clock Eastern, and then we wouldn't have to interview athletes,

and the show went right down the toilet. When those zombies came on the show and ruined the whole thing, Yeah, it was it was you would This is a reference for you as a TV Dennis Louni. It was like pulling teeth to try to do these those interviews. And I'll never forget you had one of the great moments. And I give you full credit when you go into the Radio TV Museum some day, Looney, they gotta put

this on your plaque. You figured out we were so frustrated because we were trying to ask really good questions about the game and in depth questions, and we were trying to really sound, you know, as good as we could with these guys and be relatable to these players. And you had an epiphany. You figured out that you have to dumb it down when you're interviewing athletes after NFL games. And remember we went you picked up my favorite website, sports cliche dot com, and you just would

feed them the most basic what it's like. You didn't even have to watch any of the game or even look at the box score. Just you just had to do the final You had to know the final score, and you would ask them you really remember one you really bought today that was outstanding. I have those questions in front of me. I'm just waiting for it to load. Yes, okay, you guys looked yourself in the mirrorge stepped up and brought your a game today. Hey, it is what it is.

You guys did what you had to do. I just started reading. They weren't even questions that the statement, and they would be off and running. It was like speaking. I would speak and the reson it resonated LOODI. They were like, Yeah, that's my man, that's right, Yeah, I didn't bring my a game today. I got another one here. You came to play. You are on your game. You really must be happy. You proved you were the better teams today. And the coolest part which made it even

better is you would ask the question. You would turn your mic off and then start laughing like you nobody thinks I'm funnier than me, right, so turn off the I would turn off my microphone, but yours would still be. I know, and you can hear me laughing at my own material we're listening to, like Ben Jarvis green ellis give an answer and Loony's laughing hysterically. And I'm sure you're gonna use this win as a stepping stone to the next level. You guys known a lot of poison

right out there this afternoon. It was really us about a confidence booster for you. It was. It was hilarious. Now we remember we had a producer and I'm not gonna name the producer who booked a player that has speech impediment twice on the two weeks in a row.

Two weeks in a row. Now, I give it got credit because you know, most people, if you have a speech impediment's very It's tough, right, I mean, why would you do a radio interview and we this guy I don't know you should say the name or not of the guy, but he was one of the top players in the NFL, probably going to the Hall of Fame, but he never was interviewed. I remember we were like, why we never hear from this guy? Remember like a Kaiser associate type of character, where you he was just

this great football player. You would he was like a coyote, you know, coyote you here, they exist and you never see them, but every once in a while you're cats missing, you know. He was like that. He was just charing this great player in the NFL that you hear about, you see, but you never hear his name, you never hear him speaking. And then we found out why, Yeah

it was. And then I remember the second week when we he told us in our head said hey, we got you know, player X it's coming back, and we were, oh my god, you know, because not only that it was the first year of the show, Yeah it was. It was it was a producer that we weren't sure we were going to get along with. Well you didn't get along with yeah, Well, in his defense he got along with no one that is that is true. He

one of the great carduns of all time. Did you guys at least any did you guys have any coaches or players that would sniff this out with you guys though from what you guys are doing, Oh, oh, Ludi, remember we had, Oh this is great. This is one of the funniest moments about the Blitz too. We would interview the broadcasters from Fox and they had the different former coaches and players. Well, well, sometimes we would have to, as Larney would say, prerecord you love that live on tape.

We would have to do an interview during a commercial break, and we had in the queue, as they say, we had one of these commentators from Fox on and we was also who was also a big time coach, Yes, very successful coach at the different everything I praised it more accurately, big time coach. Alright, alright, not a successful coach, a big time name, not successful and had a lot of good jobs, shall we say, had a lot of

good jobs. So anyway, so anyway, okay, all right, calm down over there, Cowboys're not talking about so so we were just imagine me and Louoni are in there. We're in the commercial break. We're getting ready preparing to do this interview. The guys in the queue so we can hear him. He can't hear us because our mics are off, and we overheard him. I'm paraphrasing here, Louni, but he this guy said he at the time of a successful

career in football, he was gonna funk with us. Remember he was gonna funk around with us because he did having to do the interview and he was just gonna goof with us. That was what he said, and we had what a way to go into an interview loony. We also had another one. There was a famous Sila pretty sideline reporter. So I'm not talking about a guy and a famous pretty sideline reporter. We won't say her name.

We were just wondering before she came on with us, as if she had ever heard me doing impressions of her on the air, which I always did, and um, once she came on with us, we realized she had heard me, yeah, and did not have much of a sense of humor, did not have a you know, that self deprecating thing. She did not have possessed that self deprecating humor. She did not have that. You know, Big Ben, my friend the president of the Arizona Diamondbacks, Derek Hall.

He he used to be a sports talk show host in Los Angeles, and he did impressions of me, and it was the only person I ever remember hearing doing an impression of me. I was blown. I was so flattered, And so I'm so surprised when people hear another person doing an impression of them and they're not flattered that someone took the time, Yeah listen and can do their voice. But she was not flattered. Yeah, now she was not. She had no sense of humor, which was really disappointed.

He would have been so much more fun if she had a sense of humor. She also, as I remember, it was really kind of uncomfortable when I asked like x is and those questions, you remember, I asked some questions that too. She didn't want to talk about herself and she didn't want to talk about football. What the hell do you have anybody? I know? I mean, it

made no sense. And then of all the celebrities that we had on from Fox that were forced to do this that you know, they was part of the deal we had and they had to come on and remember the coolest guy, and I think to this day the greatest radio guests, Kurt Warner. Remember he called up like an hour for the show or whatever to make sure he would be there on time. It was why we usually had us had to track them down, right, But he called in early. Yeah, yeah, he called it early.

And you you you asked him one of the most famous questions, Louning. You remember when you asked him about the airport there. Yeah, it was a great comeback he had, because how many years did we play that drop? Thank you Jesus? When people see you in airports? Do they say thank you Jesus? And he said, no, they say thank you Kurt. Yeah, he was, really he was. They're making a movie about Kurt Warner. I think they're making another movie. It's coming out in the next You should

be in that lone. He should get like some kind of rule you can go to. Where are you getting your steroids these days? Are you still going to want to get your steroids? Where are you going for these things? They got the border closed down now? Oh no, you can't make you run to the border anymore. Oh no, have you become a have you become a twig lunar. Are you a twig now because you haven't been able to go and go to make the run of Mexico? Did you just call me a twink or a twig? Twig?

I said, twig your phone the songs I called you. It's a twig, I said, out there you okay? Speaking before I forget. One of my other favorite stories about the Blitz was we I think we named the engineer, right, we can name the guy. He's not around anymore. We can name he's still no one of my other gigs. I still work with him. Really. Oh, it depends on which depends on which one his initials are. His last name a famous soup. Uh No, it starts with an s.

His last name, all right, Steve Stillwell. So Steve Stillwell was our engineer on the on the Blitz. And there's a bunch of stories about this guy. He was a real character. And he's back. He was back in Virginia now, I believe, or something like that. And he's like a college. He teaches broadcasting. I think he's teaching broadcasting. God love him. You're not supposed to when you say he teaches. I know, I know, I know. But anyway, I liked the guy. He was a good guy and he meant he meant well.

And so he was the engineer on the Blitz. And I remember he flew back to New York and he missed one of our our football shows on a Sunday. And and in those days, I don't know if this is still the case, but it was like Jet Blue. You could listen to Fox Sports Radio as you flew right. They had a bunch of day channels and Fox Sports radios, which was really cool to think you could be, you know, thousand feet up in the air or whatever and you're

listening to our show. And so he listened to The Blitz on a flight from l a X to like JFK. And he then when he got back, he remember, he told us that he listened and then he complained, he cut, he critiqued the show, not even realized this is the show. And he said he because he was a whiner, so he was he would he didn't talk, He just whined when he spoke. Kind of affectations. He says, listens a Blitz for six hours of the same thing over, Yeah,

that's that's the show. It's the scores over and over again. Alight gets to see if the show wasn't done for people flying across alright, so people are there, they're screaming at me. We've gone long enough here. Do you have okay? Do you have anything to promote Loony? Is there any of you have a book? Do you have a movie? Do you have a TV show? Is there anything you want to promote? Here? Upcoming commercial? Thing that's interesting? I love when you you bring it back to the subject

back to me. Thank you so much. I signed a Stormy Daniels type nondisclosure agreement. What we people a show business calling n d A. But as you know, I don't like inside jargon. At least people out like, uh cb A collected? Are you cb A? So it sounds like I'm on the inside you know that ship. So anyway, I signed an n DA man a non disclosure agreement, so I cannot talk about the game. You know, the game show. Remember I did a game show. Now we they they tweaked the game show. I'll send you a

couple of pictures and smudge out the new name. They tweaked the game show. It's got a new aspect to it. Kept me on as the host, and so we do have a game show that's uh, this hopefully not you know, it's canceled culture. Hopefully this won't be canceled. Oh wow, you're gonna be a game show host like Steve Harvey, Tom Looney game show host. Why it's like Steve Harvey and a lot of the other grades over the years, Gene, remember Jean ray Bird And there was Bob Barker. Yes,

that that little needle hit one. Yeah, he had that, Bob Barker, that little needle microphone that he had famously. Yes, yeah, Bob Barker Stone. I was at a radio college radio convention. Imagine how it's terrible that must have been when I was his saddleback and Bob Barker was the keynote speaker. He started in radio, and he he was very nice. He's very nice man. He told us about his early days and radio and the transition to television and all that.

But it was funny because at the time he was involved, there was some scandal with one of the models on the prices right. Oh he was banging one of the models. Yeah, yeah, he was. The scandal was good for his career because he was like seventy and we're like I know everyone was shocked by that she was much younger. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah that was I I met you out loving on Gameshow. I love. There's a channel called Buzzer that

it's on. It's yeah, it's they got nothing but old game shows and it's I don't know if I even know if it's Netflix, but if you go, maybe it might be Amazon Prime. But to go on, you know a lot of us are spending a lot more time indoors these days. So yeah, if you want to talk about what's on TV next time, I got a love Yeah, yeah,

I could do like the whole weekend with you. But so we got you got a TV game show, you got the radio K A b C in l A. You can hear it online on the weekends, right, yes, yes, I am now an official news journalist. Yeah, well, I never believe the news media, and now now I know. Now I have another reason not to believe the news media.

Tom Looney right there and Developing How also can't mention this either another non disposure agreement, but quite possibly soon I did all the the Actually my agent called when I was on the phone with your Happy Chatter companion David Gascon yesterday and did some demos who are very popular video game but I can't mention the name right now. Nice, all right, well that's I'm happy to report Tom that you're gonna get a little competition for that that special project.

So okay, oh good, so be it'll be fine. And you know they need good good because they need several with that. So that's good because they need more than one voice. It will be glad. I mean, I hope they don't play your voice right after mine, but that would be good. Now, now Ben glanced over the one important question that I would have for you with any kind of game show, especially if you're doing television. Um, are you gonna be rocking the vest like you traditionally

do when you're out in the public, are you? Because I do have my own look to Muscle Douche looks, It's true. It's it's a it's a it's it's something else. I'm working on m D. It's a clothing brand, so it's Gene shorts and a vest. It's not Jane shorts. I don't wear Gane shorts. I don't want people to be thinking they wear gan shorts. What are those called? What are those called? The gene shorts. They call start with the T. What does that call? I forget the

name of the s. They're called Coover's. That's inside radio. That's inside radio. Man. All right, Loony, we love you, man. We gotta have you on more often. Uh, but good luck. I'll text you in a minute here, alright, pal okay, and David shut up. That's right. You know what it's like. It's like when we all went out before COVID. I think Bennett told the story, but it was you, myself, Ben,

and Rob Parker. We got together at a nice little spot in the west side of town, Mexican food, and I said, and they get my let me get my first ten words in because I know I'm not gonna get in anything else after this. So it was lunch with with with or dinner with three talk show hosts. Yeah, you better be a good listener. That was so much fun. We we gotta get this pandemic over this. We can go back and enjoy some nice meals like that. All right, thanks, Loony, alright, thanks