Immature Hour

week here a spinoff of the Overnight Show. And I am always excited about the Sunday podcast, which has surprisingly done very well. Head to head. We've had interview podcast, we shoot the Shoot the crap Olver there on Saturday. But the mail Bag podcast a staple of the weekend, a tradition unlike any other, and it's done very well. We are joined yet again from West of the four h five, a man who on my birthday called me a piece of ship. David gas guy doing uh, doing

God's work on your birthday. As I might add, the production value for your virtual digital birthday cards was tremendous. It was it was Oscar Worthy. I like to give a speech as soon as the Bennies are around and I accept my award for the best villain. Um, so brighter days are certainly ahead. But yeah, it was. It was a day under the sun that you got to celebrate your birthday and happy about that. But I am in a bad mood, Ben Malley, Well, why would you be in a bad mood. There's nothing to be in

a bad mood about. We We are no longer perfect. Um. Some fucking asshole or assholes decided to take their act to Apple iTunes and our our perfect rating of a five point oh is no longer Oh it was right, We were down to a four point eight on reviews. How did that happen? I don't know, But your fault probably had to do with the fact that I wasn't around a couple of weeks ago and the production value turned to ship and well that is your fault though,

So it is your fault. That was correct. Man, You were not here and it's your You are responsible for the person that he did not tell them properly how to do the podcast. And you know I can't tell a twenty year veteran how to do his job. But you know, people don't want to listen. Make sure listen when you're away. You've got to make sure the people that are in for you know how to do it, how to do the job. And I think it figured it out. I figured it out. That was pretty good

at that. But that's whatever. So I noticed that you're not really talking about many of the reviews here that I I've seen here, some of the more recent reviews. The great work, gentlemen, keep the good work, enjoy the questions, love the podcast since the beginning. As long as you keep myself and under compete, gag On under control. Yeah, I don't know what the funk that means. I'm not like a wild dog or some ship like that. I'm just loose a little bit and a little bit outside

the beaten path. But it's fine. But the voice of the people, about that John the jailer people, that's one of my favorites. Is he talking about you? There's not talking about you, he said, Ben Maller is the voice of the people. My ear just yelling into my ear. He didn't listen. I had to you. It's not enjoyable when you don't listen. It's by you unbelievable. How about this one? I think we talked about us a while back, but this one still stands out. The one star review.

Too much repetition? What do we what? What? That's the one thing you can You can criticize me for anything. It's fair. But that's the one thing I don't repeat myself. Like I've been told other radio shows they will do one monologue and just repeat it every hour. I've never been that guy. With with rare exception, when there's a huge story, I might do the same story, but I'll try to do a different angle on the you know, the topic trees what we call it, But no, I

have attention definity disorder. I will go on and on, you know, every hour, on something else with the occasionally I will strict. Yeah, but the idea of a podcast or a show is to make sure that you set the expectations, and I think we do that. Friday is typically with a guest, Saturday is not so much. Then Sunday's all dedicated to the listeners with mailbags that is. I guess that's like structured in such a way that

it feels repetitious. But so what do we have to do to get more reviews we have to offer, like money, Karen on a stick here, Like, I mean, you get a few stragglers every week or every other week that will post a review. Yeah, but what is it gonna take. I considering how many people actually listen to the podcast and how many people have actually bothered to review it, it's like point you know, two point zero zero zero point two percent of the actual people that listen to

the post. Well, I think the challenging part in all this, And you would know because a lot of your listeners have been with you for for this is where you're gonna take a shot at the people that are fans of the show. God, get myself ready for this one. Um. I think it's challenging when you have listeners that can't read, and so when you can't read, you can't rate. And if you can't rate, then we don't get those reviews. And so when you can't type, you can't put out

words out there. It gets a little challenging. So I think that's the dilemma that we're running into, is that the audience is just not up to stuff. Like if we had guys like I'm a pilot across the board five stars, we probably would be here right now. We'd bea in Hawaii somewhere shooting the ship. Five stars, multiple six figure income salaries because podcast production. The reviews are great, and the adience would love us, but we don't have

that kind of demographic here. It's a little bit different, and uh, we have to make with what we got. So I think that we're limited in terms of the areas that we can get reviews and and comments on. And this is just another textbook example. Was that a good show of why David Guascon does not relate to the common man. I feel like the working class like Dave Parker right now. I feel like that it's big

strong taking my hacks. Yeah, the white Cobra. Yeah, this is why we get one star reviews right there, comments like that. In fact, i'd encourage you to give a one star review to the podcast because of what gasct just said. He just said, you're illiterate, you're a loser, and I think you should give a negative review of the podcast. I haven't called anyone toothless today, for the record, Yeah, not yet. Typical west of the four or five, the

lower lower you know what do they call the lower order? Right? The sharecroppers, a bunch of barbarians. You should go into the mailbox. I'm gonna go check my credit score right now. Yeah, I'm I'm good. What are you gonna But that's your your debt score. I wouldn't be bragging about your debt score, you know, debt score, que ratings, the whole nine yards. What do we got? What do we got? The mailbox? So this week, all right, let's get right to it.

We do have to get to the mail bag. These are actual questions by actual listeners sent in via Facebook and the Mallard Show email bag. In the bag, In the bag we go? Where to start? Any menim anymore? Alright? Pierre in Springfield? Great way to start, Pierre in Springfield.

This guy gets it, all right, this guy gets it, He says, since you've been dropping breadcrumbs for the past few weeks, any truth to the rumor that you've decided to sell off the original and the current Mallard mansions to relocate on the other side of the four oh five with Gagon and the rest of the one per centers. Uh no, no, I will not be moving west of the four oh five. H There is something percolating, but I am not allowed to disclose that is not for

public fodder at this particular time. So you've got to you gotta to that in. But thank you for your concern. I appreciate that. Uh. Let's see. This is from Scott, the chef in Knowledge in the Biou. He says, at fifty three, I finally decided to learn how to scuba dive during the pandemic. Now I'm addicted, and I'm considering

other adventure sports. Are there any adventure sports that you guys see yourself trying but gingerly taking into account you're advancing years, especially that flabby, frail old man gag On. I think I think with Scott, I think he had to get a certification to for that. I think you're to scuba dive, Yeah you do. You have to get a license because if anything goes wrong, you're done. Yeah, that's it, game over, lights out, exit stage right. I'm kind of tempted to do some skydiving. I'd like to

You should do that and I'll be on the ground. Yeah, I've jumped out of all the planes I want to jump out of. No, what about parasailing it? Would you ever consider doing that? Or hang gliding? Hang gliding over an ocean. Yes, yeah, I could do that. Yeah, in Hawaii going I think that would be cool. Yeah. Have you ever done bungee jumping? No, I would never do bungee jumping that you don't be in a rubber band. No. I'm a friend of heights anyway, so skydiving would would

scare the ship out of me. But my a cousin of mine he went on a bachelor party about a decade ago, and he went, I think they went past Lake Elsinore, I think, And he said that when they went out, it was early in the morning, like eight nine o'clock in the morning. They went out to jump, and he said that the adrenine rush was so high and his adrenaline was just shot through the roof that when they when they eventually landed and touchdown, they grabbed a beer at the local bar, and then he slept

the rest of the day. That's how shot he was from the drop. Yeah. Be sure to catch live a dish so the Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Jason writes, and he says, Hey, guys, so I'm graduating from college this year. Congratulations. Uh. And I got to leave a personal message for the ceremony

this year. Anyway, I will attach a picture of the messages. I think you'll both really appreciate it. Thank you, Signed Jason from parts of We don't know what college, and we don't know much more than that. But did you see the photo of you? Are you looking at here? I'm not I'm not what he wrote here. I didn't cheat my way through college like the Astros cheated to win the World Series. Good job by you, Jason. Look at that. See that's a that's a legitimate diploma there.

You're not like the Astros. Where you it's a tarnished just a little piece of paper? Is what would be if you cheated like that? How dare all right? What do we have near here? Let me see? I don't think I put the name on this one. Okay, it's a long one. It's let's see any MENI monumo? Oh this is from I'm a pilot. Oh maybe we should skip that way. Yeah, let's just skip it. Uh, he says during my early morning I'll just read the whole thing. I don't know if he wants me to read the

whole thing. He didn't say not to read whole thing, he says during my early morning Tokyo jawg. I just finished listening to this week's fifth hour podcast shows, and comparing and compared to the dreck of the previous week, one can only conclude that David Gascon is crucial to the show. Much like a solid foundation on which the Acropolis in Athens and the Pyramids of Giza have stood for centuries, so too is the work of one David J. Gascon. This must be your burner account, right, good man, This

gotta be your burner account. Look at I mean, he has commas in the right place, his periods, he capitalizes, he has all the words spelled out. And this is a white collar type of guy. This is the guy that we need here for your audience to grow this fucking show. Well it says here I I feel, as over a ten year listener to your show and self appointed counsel for David Gascon, the malfeasance accused by you upon him must be debunked again. This is a burner

account for Guescon. I wonder if we could prove me wrong. I wonder if we can bribe I'm a pilot to bring back some Japanese wag ou. He's in Tokyo, he said, was email continues in said Mallard. Show guide Books section seven subsections seven A is incorrect, said fill in Big Mike is solely accountable for their own production, and liability does not fall upon Gascon, who was not available nor had any way to correct or control the shitty production.

A waiver and release. Let's pause right there, let's at the pause. But that's not true, all right. The way this works here, when you are lazy and you don't show up to work, you are supposed to tell the person filling in how to properly do their job. And if you do not do that and that didn't happen here, then you are responsible. That's like you going to call on Calahert telling him how to do his job or

vice versa. No, no, if the difference if Cowherd filled in for me and I didn't tell him how our show works, that would be maufiss. No, wouldn't he just t It would absolutely be Maufie's how hard is it for you to just go on the air talk and then lean on callers for another hour or two. Well, according to you, they can't read, so how could I lead on them? I mean they're illiterate. Yeah, that's true. I guess all right, it is up to the marquee name.

I'm a pilot says, to fully vest the validity and ability of fill ins to not only produce, but manage discrepancies to mark He's names satisfaction. Well, that's actually not true. Let me tell you something. Some people think, well, hey, why don't you have so and so fill it? And and here's the thing. If you think I had any kind of leeway at the company, any kind of power, and I wielded a powerful, powerful hammer, do you think i'd have David Guesscon on the podcast. Do you think

I would have Brian Finley no step in when Eddie's away? Maybe? Of course not no, no, no, no no no. You have to fill in then for Eddie if if he was not around, well, anybody but Finley a b F whether that's wreck Itt Ralph to Seger, who I don't think will work on our show anymore. I don't know any of these guys. I would have them or probably myself, not you, and I did not have you on that list. You just complain it's too late. I can't stay up. I gotta I gotta go east to the four old

five boo boom. Anybody can regurgitate updates for seven hours during that time slot. Well, yeah, you update, guys, do one update and just repeat it over and over again. It's fascinating. The work ethic involved in rewriting. I remember when I started, they gave this book. I still have it somewhere. It's in the in the shed somewhere, but it's it was the guide book to doing news updates at Fox Sports Radio, and it was like, yeah, rewrite every hour and uh you know, rephrase and I'm like,

oh no, that doesn't happen anymore. That ship is left the port. It's wild. What else do we have. He'd made some comment about the Dodgers who cares a five tool players such as David J. Gas up with this guy really wants to have your child there. Hey, you two should get a room. We should first class, first class cabin. I'm a pilot, says David J. Gascon needs an apology, no apology. A man who has had his hand in radio, TV, cinema, social media and literature does

not wait for nobody right. Much like all the superheroes of our time, Mr Gascon goes where he is called and needed most. I need to take a shower after reading this. David Gascon's most recent display of genius may have been recently when producing your regular show. His acute sense of screening callers and promptly ending them at the perfect time was nothing short of miraculous. I can only imagine what I'm a Pilot thought of David Gascon on my birthday calling me a piece of ship. I probably

thought that was really good as well. One can only ascertain I'm a Pilot says that he is one of the main reasons why the show consistently ranks in the top five. I think we all agree that we need more David Gascon in our life's good and you, you see, here's the thing you accuse me of having. Like Pierre and Springfield, guys like that suck up to me. They have never written a love note that guy like this from I'm a Pilot. As they can't write, they can't

articulate it. In the fashion that he has done that. I mean he's not done, but he's not done. I believe a public apology, and I'm a pilot, says for your alleged mouthfeasance against him would end our grievance and we would consider this matter close. On another note, I noticed you have been talking about sprucing up the house and uh and all that. Immediately my spider's senses begin to twitch, and it can mean two things, he says. As a father of twin girls five years old, I

know this trend. Either Mrs Maller may be pregnant and you are waiting until the first trimester, or you are setting and moving to west of the four oh five. Neither of those things. All these guys trying to figure out what's going on, all all these private eyes here trying to figure out what's going on. Uh, there is nothing I can reveal at this time, but I promise you I will not be living west of the four oh five. Never going to happen. No, No, it bothers me.

When I go west to the four or five, I try to go to the beach where the four oh five ends, because I don't want to go west of the four or five. So I'll just go to like, I'll go all the way down to the Laguna Beach because that's there's no four oh five down there. We're all go up north to central California, or I'll go to Ventura or somewhere like that where there's no no four oh five. Fru. This is arguably you're the best caller that you have on your show. He doesn't even call,

he does no. No, he's not a call. He's an email writer. He's a Twitter guy. He's not a call. He's the best personnel that you have amongst your followers. Great guy. I mean, obviously he's working part of the working class, but he's elite and there's a whole lot of reasons why. All right, calm down? Uh, he has a question also, but this thing goes on forever. How about brevity. I'm a pilot. How about a flight to Tokyo? What do you Yeah, but we don't have a fourteen

hour podcast? Maybe not you alway is gonna wrap it up? I'll be wrap it up. I gotta go. I got things to do. I can't I can't be here forever. Yea NonStop I got these Well, you're going. I'm like, there's no clock on a podcast. We can do whatever we want. There's no clock on a pocket. No, No, I got things to do. Leave me alone. Blah blah blah blah blah. As you used to say back in the day. Get to the point. Get to the point. Please.

Here's the question from I'm a pilot. What is something you did that was really out of your comfort zone? It doesn't have to be the scariest, but something you didn't want to do but ended up kind of enjoying. And he listed a couple of options. Eating something weird. Well, yeah, I think eating the bull testicles was probably the biggest thing I did. I did not enjoy it though, the Rocky Mountain oysters. I've never done horseback riding. I did

go to the ballet. My wife she wanted to go to the ballet, So I went to the ballet and so a lot of dudes walking around with cod pieces. That was awkward and uh yeah, that was not really my my jam. I went to a Beauty and the Beast musical at the Hollywood Bowl great spot. Sorry, I don't like that stacked parking over there, but I've done that. I've never we talked about certain I've never done skydiving school, I've done snorkeling, not scuba diving. Ballroom dancing I've never done,

never done that. I would say the thing that was really out of my comfort zone was getting married and uh, and I did do that. There you go. So I'm a pilot with the never ending letter who someday, Gascon you will look back at your life and you say, who said the nicest thing about me in my life? And it would be I'm a pilot. Right there, it goes one and then definitely not to you at number two. So I will answer this question. I think I've had

cow tongue before. That was kind of awkward and uncomfortable. I do hear you like tongue and um, who doesn't like a little tongue? Um? And I think the I think the acting for me doing that is um out of my comfort zone too. The acting. Yeah, well you missed the podcast every other week because of the acting. So I don't know. I don't know what's going on. But it's different when you're doing live radio or live television. You're flying without a parachute, so you're your pot committed.

You don't have time to think about it. But when you are on a set and you're shooting, you've got people looking at you, judging you. And then of course you have a director that and an editor that will make or break you. They can capture whatever you put out there and either cut it or emphasize it. And then on top of that, you're just trying to portray something and someone else. And well you should do the curb your enthusiasm type acting where you don't have lines.

You know, there's some things you have to say, but you can add live, right you can. Yeah, that's that's the kind of acting that I would want to do improv But yeah, yeah, But when you're going on these on these films or these shows, they want you to be word perfect and buy the book. So if you're not word perfect, they say it's an insult to the to the writer and they have written Dad bullshit. I know.

It's all about Hyden Deliver, who was the old actor that had the supposedly had the earpiece in because he could never remember his lines. I thought, was Marlon Brando? Is it Marlon Brando? It might be Marlon brand Yeah, the legendary Hollywood story. He was such a such a stumble bum and such a he could not remember his lines, so they had to put an earpiece in and in that way he would be told what to say and just repeat it. Yeah. Or they'd have flash cards are

almost like a billboard below. His partner has seen partners like Breastplate, so he would go off the copy off of that when they're saying, yeah, it's like David Letterman or the old the late night shows when he used to watch those, and they'd have the Q cards. Yeah, Jimmy Carson let around all those guys. Johnny Carson, Jimmy's brother, Jimmy Carson played for l A Kings. I do remember I named Carson that played for the Kings. Queen Roxanne in I'm just going back to back with a love affair.

I love. Is this your birthday or my birthday weekend? Well, it can't be my birthday. We can you call me a piece of ship, so it can't be my birthday week Queen Roxanne and Colorado rights and says, where is the first vacation you'll be taking since the country seems to be opening up. As far as a plane, I've been around California. Don't tell anybody that. But I've gone all over the Golden State here during the last year, but I haven't gone anywhere outside of California like weekend

road trips. In fact, I was just in Santa Barbara recently. I love Santa Barbara Salvang That part of California is very cool go for a weekend hang out. But I do do have some plans I'd like to, as I said earlier, either today or yesterday, I gonna go back to Wisconsin visit my brother in Appleton. So I'll go to Chicago and then up to Appleton and maybe I'll I gotta get to Minnesota, and I'll be in Wisconsin,

which is right you know, past Minnesota. So I should probably stop in Minnesota, and then I gotta get to Cincinnati. Have some Skyline chili with just Josh and Justin and Cincinnati, the Cincinnati Bros and all that. Yeah, what would be a meal of choice in Cincinnati? Are we talking brought worst here? Well, the Cincinnati is known as the Well Minnesota is the juicy Lucy. That's what I want to have a juicy Lucy in Minnesota. But in Cincinnati there

the dish I always heard was the Skyline chili. Yeah, but the chili on top of spaghetti. Isn't that what they do? I think that's what. But you're you're allergic to hot sauce, aren't you? No? No, I mean I I'm you know, I've got a white guy tolerance to hot sauce. But I I I think I I like hot sauce more than I do. But as I've gotten older, like I used to never eat the peppers on the pizza, but I love to put extra pepper on the pizza. On that so I'm all about it? All right? Fair enough?

Rick from San Ramon writes in and No Cal He says, Ben and Gascon, I really enjoyed your interview with Ryan Leaf. It changed my opinion of the guy because he actually acknowledged his immaturity when he was younger. I'm sure his time and custody provided him with a chance to take stock of his mistakes. Rick points Ricks points out the funniest part of the interview was Gascon's conversation with Leif about Colin Kaepernick talk about biting your tongue. That conversation

could have deteriorated quickly. He says, great stuff, keep it up. Well, yeah, that and also don't discount Rick when I just as a throwaway comment, pointed out to Ryan Leaf that we used to play his knock It Off sound bite ad nauseum on the radio and that he got really upset and he got angry. I got angry, Ryan Leaf, and that was unexpected. That was awkward. I thought he was just, you know, have a good sense of humor about it. No, he didn't have a good sense of humor about it,

not at all. I wasn't gonna counts out to him about his because he likes Colin Kaepernick, and that's that's fine. I mean, I liked him when he planned it in Nevada. But you know, certain things that he said, we just obviously didn't agree with that. Yeah, we have fundamental disagrees with Colin Kaepernick, but you're not gonna not I don't know, is that a battle you want to get into at

that point? Maybe maybe it is. But Ryan Leaf is a He answered every question we asked and he didn't shy away from anything either, Like he was pretty candid with every response he gave us. Yeah, no, that's true, that's true. Yeah. Yeah, I thought Leaf was good. I thought he was good. And uh, the next next draft. I think next year we're gonna have to have JaMarcus Russell. That'd be fun. We should track him down. I wonder

what he's doing. Oh man, curious, Like what do you do when you wanted the great busts of all time? But we know what Ryan leaves up to? What's he What if we can get Ontario Smith on, I'll talk about the Wisonator, it'd be great, good. Yeah, we should do that. We should just like it's a podcast. We know where we want, but how do we track these guys down? That's the thing. Wisonators and Purple Drank. You know.

I'd like to get on Richie Incognito boy, that guy, oh man, man, he'd talked about what happened with the Dolphins and that whole I think that was a bull crap. Yeah, he's like me, He's like Jeremy Turley on steroids. That would be a that would be a good one. You know. I really want to get on and I know he would do it. Is Terry Bratch. I worked with Terry on radio. We gotta get I see the problem with Terry is you gotta like go through publicists and stuff

like that. But we could play that game, right, you can play that game. We could Bradshaw on here alright, Neil writes in on the mail bag, he says, big man, Oh, big Ben, I've been listening to your show, your voice on radio for a decade and a half. Holy crap,

that's a long time. So a huge fan of yours. However, the episodes with Big Mike was not just a disaster because of audio quality, but Big Mike is a big band boot liquor and has the charisma of a Biden Staff There you go, which is a super cringe lick fest type show. Going from Gascon to Big Mike is like going from a Portion nine eleven to a Toyota camera. How dare you use a car analogy like I've done? Neil, You schmuck? How dare you another suck up? You know?

Neil gets a golden ticket, Steve gets a golden ticket. Miss the Gascon banter. So glad your sidekick. That's the meaning good Jeff by you in the air high five to Neil giving you an air high five. He called your side so happy your sidekick came back. He is like Steve Williams the caddy to you Tiger Woods without the Caddy, you know what happened to tigers, so be kind to Gascon. The key to your your masters is is my sidekick and Caddy, I need a book deal now.

That is so good. Caddy and the sidekick and tell all book. Uh, he says, for the mailbag, your mallarm monalogue on Lebron his disgusting police tweet and Adams scarecrow silver was epic. Well, thank you for that, Neil. I'm glad you enjoyed that. Always fun to take pot shots

at the god's gift to humanity. Who's gonna fix the world unless you actually ask him to do something, Lebron James, and then he will run and hide and turtle up with our as we said earlier, with our guy Leo Terrell, who the great Leo Terrell, who tried to hey, Lebron, you got a problem with cops. I got a black police office here. Would like to have a conversation with you. Figure out what we can do. Nothing, absolutely nothing. Uh. He says, though, Neil that he finds the baseball monologues

that we do the best. He says, I don't even watch baseball, and I don't even care about baseball. Uh. If you were to pick one sport to watch for the rest of your life, would it be baseball, the NFL. I'm guessing it's not. The dumpster fire, n b A is the is you know, the NBA, the the New NHL, and viewership he's as well. Yeah, it would definitely be a toss up between baseball and football. From a radio perspective, football is much more important. But I loved baseball. Baseball

was my first love when I was a kid. I played it all the time, played hours and hours of stickball in the neighborhood. I would you know, I was the kid that had no friends, so I just throw the tennis ball against the garage door, and I thought I was the greatest defensive player of all time. And I I just have fun members on the batting cages

and all that. But I wouldn't have a problem just watching football the rest of my life because football is actually the perfect sport to have a life if you only watch the games because they only play once a week. It's although now it's like Thursday, Sunday, Monday, but you don't have to watch every game. So yeah, it's a it's a toss up, But I wouldn't have no problem with baseball or fooball. I guess if you put a gun to my head, I'd picked baseball, but I'd be

fine with football. Well, on top of that, you have a hundred sixty two games, a lot more content for you as opposed to just the sixteen seven two weeks. Yeah, and baseball you're not supposed to watch every game. You're suppose. It's one of those things, as you know it's there. It's kind of like a good parent, right, good parent. You know you don't need your parents every day, but it's good to know they're there if you need them. Right. It's good to know that if you're really getting a

tough spot in your life, you can call up. Whether maybe it's not your parent, maybe it's an uncle or nan, or a grandparent or a cousin or something. But to know you've got that person in your life that in case things go bad, you can call them up and they'll help you out. It's important to have that person. Whoever that person is all right, he says, but it's another long email from Neil, he says, regarding the Friday interview show, the interview with Ryan Leaf was out of

the box and really good. To continue the out of the box thinking, I know you are not keen on YouTube work. Well that's not true, Neil. I watch a lot of stuff on the weekends on on YouTube. I've said that YouTube to me is is they have just better content. It's harder to find, it's harder to find, but it's better content than Netflix. Like I think Netflix has gone way down. I think YouTube, which I don't pay for it, don't pay for YouTube, but I think

it's better stuff. But I've found some really good YouTube channels that I watch travel logs and things like that on the weekends, which are pretty good. He says. Uh. He says, I know you're not keen on YouTube work and a big fan of radio guests, but wouldn't you be able to book some YouTube folks that cover the third route with zeal There are only a few of you out there that call I'll call out all the hypocrisy, bigotry and racism, and it would be interesting how conversations

would go. We've done that. We've had Leo Terrell as uh as we mentioned him. We've had him on. Dave Rubin has been on multiple times, a political pundit um, and we've tried to get some other guys on. Didn't, so we say who we try to get on some former baseball players who we've been efforting but have been unable to book for the podcast. Yeah, We've trying to get Kurt Schilling on Aubrey Huff. Yeah, we thought it would be great. I mean, these guys are you talk

about lightning rods and polarizing and all of that. We thought it would be fun to have those guys on and create at bit of a firestorm. And but we've been unable to book them. So yeah, because that would ignite stuff. People become hysterical your opinions that they don't agree with, It just become fanatical. Oh, I can't believe. It's like it's like that Will Ferrell line of point.

That escalated quickly. And then see when we have if we had Aubrey Huff or Chilling on, and I've interviewed Chilling when I was doing Boston stuff, I had Chilling on. But if if you had those guys on, it would be the usual email and it's it's like a boiler plate at this point. I've gotten so many times over

the years. You know, I used to like your show and I listened for X number of years, but since you had Blank on, I can no longer listen because you do not agree with my political ideology and blah blah blah blah blah blah. I uh, I'm thinking about maybe we should go and try to enquire about someone from CNN. What if we got Jim Acosta on? Yeah, that would that would be That would be good. I would I would talk to any of those guys. I'm not obviously I lean more to the right, but I

would be I don't care if it's good audio. You know, I'd love to have Joe Biden on. He probably wouldn't remember it if he did it, but I any president, I always believe that, you know, it was Trump, Biden, Obama, whoever the president is. I think that's awesome. I'm still impressed that that Clay on his show had Donald Trump as a sitting president call into a morning sports radio show. To me, that's awesome. So yeah, he says he names some people you know who? Any of these people are

Ryan and Jeremy at Sports Wars. Are you familiar with them? No, John Matrix and Rhodes rants Black and White Sports. Are you familiar with them? No? Yeah, I don't. I'm not. I'm not. Maybe, I'm sure they're probably good. I just don't. That's not in my my wheelhouse. He said. Those guys had under a thousand subscribers a year ago to they are nearing a hundred thousand. There you go, sports Wars a hundred one thousand subscribers. Good for them, uh, he says,

they're making a living on the third rail. Mam my own. There you going? He says, if not, what about out kicked the coverage with Clay Travis as a Friday guest. Well, we're trying to get Clay on, but he's Clay's big time. He won't come on the podcast. Ye see, these guys do the stuff on YouTube though, so I know you don't like you doing YouTube. So it's well, I've said, listen. My position is if there's a nice big check coming in,

then okay, you know, I'm I'm fine. But if there's not that nice big check, then it's like, you know, the motivation. There you go? Uh. He says, I'm looking forward to the weekend shows with my favorite Caddy Gascon's what is this? Back to that emails and being a Caddy that was the same email. Blind Seahawk fan Emmett in Olympia, Washington says, this is for you and west of the four oh five day b Gagon, what was

the most pain you have been through? This is uh for Mallard, what is your issue with people west of the world five? So I guess you wants to know the most pain you've been through. You've told this story before. You've complained about the pain, the agony. I want to repeat that for Emmet who might not have been listening back then. I mean, I've torn my road to the cuff twice and I was an agonizing pain and uh physically and emotionally because it was my sophomore year of

college and I was playing football at Iles. I thought I was on my way to getting a Division one scholarship and uh, I was alighted team captain and uh, I was on all the conference tight end. Tore my road turn the cuff and a scrimmage against U C. L A. As a second time, I tore it in a three years span, and I was done and uh and I knew it, and uh, yeah, I think my life would be drastically different if my body didn't if I didn't fail my body or my body didn't fail

me would have been drastically different. So you where would you have gone to college? Who were you thinking you were gonna play football? Well? I was getting I was getting letters of inquiry from like Arizona State, cal Oregon, San Diego State, Arizona, and Washington State. Yeah. I was gonna bring it up last week with Ryan Leaf. I actually took a recruiting trip up to see Mike Price, who was the head coach. You went to the polouse, Yeah,

went to Wazoo. Yeah that's tipping cow countries with that pullman man. But but yeah, it was. It was a great experience. And yeah, I had an opportunity. I was an all conference tight end at junior college and I had three receptions all year and two receptions all year for three yards. And but I hit like a hammer. And our our college was top three amongst the biggest recruiting UH venues throughout the United States. So I had a chance. I had a real good chance, and uh

it was crippling. So yeah, it's like when I was up for the l A Clippers halftime show and I didn't get it. I didn't get it. I can't tell you why I told you off the year why I didn't get that job. It might be in my book someday. Let's just say I was ahead of my time. That something happened to me. That is commonplace these days, but but back then it was. Yeah, I feel like I was a trail not a Portland trailblazer, especially considering what a lapdog I've been for the Clippers over the years.

That was really that was that would have been a big one. And uh, yeah, I don't know that what it was. The other quae, well, why do I hate people west of the four or five? Because I've met them, you know, That's why. No, I just don't like pretend. I mean, I live in in l a here, man. I know you're in Washington. It's a little different vibe in Olympia Washington. You're a young guy, you're in high school,

and you'll, I mean, you'll figure this out. But I mean there's certain I'm sure there's certain parts of the area you live in where there's people. I just don't like elitist, that nonsense. I don't like that. I you know, I like, I like to relate. I don't care whether you're a milkman to me. Everyone's I tried to treat everyone the same. Maybe I don't do it, but people west of the four oh five, there's a whole class structure.

If you run a movie studio, if you're this, that or the other thing, you've got some status to you, they treat you differently. And I try to treat everyone the same. And I I can meet just as fascinated talking to a guy, this guy Hayes, who's been calling up, who washes bodies for a living as I can. Yeah, this guy in Minnesota, he does he work at a morgue. Yes, yes, and he sounds like a guy who would work at a morgue. He's got this very slow delivery to him.

But I'm fascinated by his life, Like, how does someone end up in that job? Nobody, nobody is a little kid. I would say nobody. It's always the exception of the rule. But nobody starts out as a kid. Said point, I want to wash bodies, dead bodies when I become a grown up. It's a very important thing. I mean, we're all gonna die, we all have loved ones that are gonna die, and we need you know, you need to

treat the body. I believe the body is even you know, after you're gone, you gotta respect that with the proper honor, but still actually do it. Um so like a guy like that. I'm fascinating Doc Mike loony Tune. I love Doc Mike, But a lot of people in our business and partaking radio looked out upon these people that a lot of won't even take calls and they'd rather just lick the toes of some hack former athlete because they

had status and they played professional sports. To me, oftentimes, not always, but oftentimes these guys that were, you know, just have regular gigs truck drivers. And I've had a great conversations moving man Mad from Boston. He hates your guts, by the way, but you know he's had a very interesting life and things that have happened to him. So what what what was that? Ted? Wow? Tired alright? Moving on?

Kevin in Kansas writes and he says, Hey, Ben and David as hosts and creators are the most fun and fascinating podcast out there. Do you have any plans to tweak anything? Every episode seems fresh, timely, and informative about that's Kevin, You should write this email in a review on the Apple podcast page is what you should do. Just cut and paste, Boom done. He says, I know that good artists are always looking for ways to make the good stuff even better. Keep up the good work,

A great work, he said, Uh don't. I mean there's all ms people proachas all the time. Who knows. I don't know what the future holds, guest, go on, I have no idea. I wonder where he is in Kansas. Have you been to Kansas before? I have, But I've just been to the part near Kansas City, which doesn't really count. But I've been to Kansas City. I actually stayed in Kansas City, Kansas, which is just separated by some train tracks. Yeah, it's a sister city of Kansas City, Missouri.

But you get a cheaper hotel room in Kansas. So I stayed in Kansas because the hotel rooms were cheaper than Kansas City, Missouri. And I figured, like it's two miles away, So what's the big freaking deal. David from Simpsonville, South Carolina rights in He's says David. David's dad is a hero. Has he ever or would he ever? Run for office? All right, your pops, old man, the chief

who we've had on the podcast. Guy ran the l a p D. David Gascon was on television every night around the world during the o J situation back in the day. As your dad ever considered getting into politics, No, no, but he I mean he did not, as he told you. Why not, Well, he did try to run for for chief of police for the l a p D. He would have been the first Latino ever in the department

to be the chief of police. But yeah, the police department, the police chief, those guys are more yes men nowadays than they are their own men. And the political sphere is just it's just dark and decrepit now you think about it doesn't matter if you're right or left. These people all have the interests of themselves. Now, what would your dad be interested in replacing George Gascon as the district attorney? Gascon for Gascon, But he would, he would

crush it. But no, there's no chance. He's doing a lot right now for the United States Olympic Committee. He's doing stuff on the US diving team, he did stuff on the handball team. He does consulting. Yeah, so I would imagine once you run the l a p D, you can always have consulting work for police, right, I mean that's kind of a big Even outside of that, yeah, I mean he's doing work for the United States Olympic Committee, Like how do you go from thisforcement to that? And

he does? He transitioned. What are the perks on that? Do you get to go to like the Olympics wherever? Yeah, he's supposed to be going to uh took your Japan this year, but that's not gonna be the case, I don't think. But yeah, he goes to the Pan end games that take place. He's gone to Canada when they've had some of the North American Games being played up there. He travels, travels the world. But it does a lot

of fundraising too. So a lot of these athletes, if you're not on the basketball team or maybe the baseball teams, you're not getting top dollar at all. Even gymnasts and divers, they don't get any kind of money. So a lot of fundraising being done and he's helped out Mark in Ottawa, right said he says for Gagon when cuddling with Brian Finley, do you enjoy being the big spoon or the little spoon?

Great question? Mark, Yeah, let's say, Hey, Mark, mark. Last time the Ottawa Centers were worth the ship was back in the sixties. And the lift time your shitty country want to stay in the Cup was in ninete. So kind of goes sit on a bike seat with no seat. What about Justin Trudeau, you're Prime minister there, Yes, Mr black faces wokey mcwoke. It's as people in Ontario that cannot leave their house for like two weeks because the country. Yeah, I know the hockey. We talked about this. We Eddie

got all upset. I loved my instant conspiracy theory that just add water that the the you saw hockeys like the Canadian governors like because you're not gonna allow crossing the border and all that, and there's gonna be you know, to like June. And so my theory was this is a way to Jerry rig the NHL playoffs where there it's just the winner of the Canadian part it takes on the winner of the US right, And of course Eddie immediately piste all over my parade here and said, no, no, no, no, no,

I wouldn't put it past that guy Justin Trudomon. That guy is a little bit of a weasel, right, not a little bit a lot of it. I mean from what I read about it. I don't know the guy, but from what I read, it's not very very flattering at all. Stick of Butter from California. How about that he writes and says, when are you going to pay off your bull testicle? Bet? Well, I did actually go back.

It's on Instagram. It's on Facebook if you scroll back, page down, page down, page down, page down, bull testicle, jerky disgusting ate it because the Clippers took it on the chin against the Denver Nuggets. Jason from Rocky Mount, Virginia says, hey, Bat, I'll be sending you a hat next week. Well, thank you, Jason. What I was wondering, how many hats do you think you own? And the same for Gagon, Well, Jason, I am a I am the Emelda Marcos of hats. Is that's an outdated reference

Gascon look it up, google it. But yeah, I love hat and I have I picked up a few every year. I'm getting up there now. I just had a birthday, so I probably have in my main rotation. Well available in my main rotation, I got I don't know, five to thirty. I would say maybe, maybe, a few more, maybe a few less. I haven't really counted them. Um, but somewhere in there. What about you guess how many hats do you have? I'm the mad Hatter of sports tader, so I have to have a fair amount of hat

I couldn't even have. It might be a closer to fifty. Do you count beanies his hats or no? No, I'm talking to just baseball hats like that that I do these dopey monologues that he got to record me for the stupid YouTube. And I wear hats, and so I rotate the hat every night. I try to have a different hat. Man, I only have four of them. I have a Dodger's hat. I have an odd couple hat.

I have a Team USA has. Rob Parker gave you the odd cup, Yeah you didn't, and then guy said I should still sell some Mallard Malicious Swag got called up in Colorado. Wanted some shirts and some hats of stuff. Rob hustles, I mean he put Yeah, Rob, I give Rob crap man. Rob's got all his on line of merchandise. He's got the barbershop. We gotta get robbed back on. Yeah, I'll be done for that. Especially the baseball season two.

He's got he's got this website called MLB bro which is dead a kid towards African American baseball players, you know, with obviously with Parker yesterday. Dave Parker mentioned that yesterday, with limited amount of African Americans, like Rob goes all the way back to the Negro leagues into where the athletes are now and and does some some good stuff on it. So before yeah, it's cool, it's it's it's

it's a weird conundrum move. I touched on it with Dave Parker, but I know for twenty years, probably longer than that, the RBI program. I think it's called in the Inner City. Yeah, and I mean it try. I mean, what are you gonna do? Right? Kids don't want to play because it's not cool, or they don't think they can make it. It's harder to make it in baseball than it is in football or basketball. It's a it's

a tough nut to crack. I mean, there's ways to do it, and they can figure it out, but I think what they really need to do is and then Dave Parker touched on this on Friday. Is one of the problems baseball has is it does not lends itself, lend itself to the debate. You know, one of the reasons it does not get talked about a lot on sports radio is because most of what sports radio is is there's a controversy to agree with them, to disagree with Baseball doesn't do that, right, there's not a lot

of that. We had some of that type of content with Fernando Tatisse Junior and the Dodgers when they were playing, but it's not a sport that usually does it. But if you know sports radio and debate show, sports Debate TV can talk about it, then that becomes a better thing and it creates makes it seem cooler, right, And

I think the problem is is well twofold. One is you're not doing a good job of marketing and two you don't allow pictures to throw up an end anymore on these guys without benches being cleared and umpires giving out warnings to both benches. I think that's a problem. You're protecting these guys way too much as opposed to letting them run and discipline and placed the game themselves like they did back in the day. So the Inner

City program I at Compton College. I was coaching junior college football there in the in the early two thousand's, the Inner Cities program that was developed by Major League Baseball. They had two gorgeous diamonds on Compton College in the city of Compton, Ben. I mean, you could have eaten off the grass. It was so fine. It looked like

it was a putting green. And yeah, you'd have you'd have some little league teams that would go out there, some junior college teams, and some other high school programs that would play out there. But yeah, like my problem is is that the thought process from football. You know this. You go to college, you go to the NFL. You don't worry about the minor league system. We're in Major League Baseball. You could scuttle around, you know, high A double A, triple A and never get a crack at

the show. And you have all the talent in the world, but you're just buried on a roster because you have a twenty five or forty man roster and then you have the triple A, the double A and of course the general manager and whoever he picked up in the draft. So you're you're buried unless unless you're obviously a shoe in as a as a top five pick. Yeah, we're

bringing up Compton. I've been to Compton, believe it or not a few times, and there's actually some really nice areas in Competon, which is shocking when you think about the reputation of Compton. What is the city next to it? That to me, that's worse than common Watts No, not Watts, Um God, what is the name of it? I can't or is the artija is that I forget? I don't know, but it was to me, it was much worse than coming.

As far as the baseball thing, do you do you buy into the grand conspiracy on why baseballs in the spot it is with the lack of black players that it's because for years, when when I was a kid, you had so many big star players who were black in baseball, Ozzie Smith and Darryl Strawberry and Eddie Murray and like the biggest stars in the game. But then baseball shifted their focus to the Dominican Republic, right in

Latin America. Yeah, and they really drove try to get as many Latin players as they could because you know, there's this great ballplayers in Latin America and it was they could get these guys in and pay them peanuts and all that, and and they kind of went away from focusing on going out and scouting in the inner cities and all that, and then it just kind of led to where we are where now. They once you,

once you lose it, you can't get it back. But I don't buy that, because you know this when you when you get up, when you sign a player internationally, especially overseas in Japan, you're still paying the international cost to sign his rights, so you have the first acquire those rights, and then you signed him to a contract. Like why wouldn't you do that in house anyway in the United States. I'm not buying that one bit. I mean, I grew up just like you, Griffy, Kirby Puckett, Eddie Murphy,

like all these guys were fantastic. Eddie Murphy was good on television and movies. But Eric Davis was good back in the day. Now he played the Dodgers, played with the Red Zoll on the World Series back in nine. Either there was Darryl Strawberry, Like the list goes on and on and on. I like, I don't buy that argument one bit, but you do find sweet for the Detroit Tux But I mean Dave Parker, Dave Winfield, Tony Gwynn. Well, now we're just trying. We're gonna pissing match to any

more black players. What I'm saying, like you, but you do, you have to admit this. You do find a rapid base of baseball fans in the Dominican Republic. Down in South America, Mexico. There are some big baseball fans, fanatics, and they love the game of baseball, and they're on display in Major League Baseball. They don't discriminate one bit. I'm not buying it at all. Yeah, I know. I don't think they discriminate. I think baseball would love to have.

If you're a talented player and you can, they can sell you. Uh you know. They're in the business of selling talented players to make money. So why would they not want players. It's not like there's some grand conspiracy. I don't buy that. The last one, last one here, we didn't mention Bo Jackson. That's a bad job by us. Holy fuck, Bo knows no puck but Bo knows man. I think we should not focus on the star black players. I think we should focus on the like the secondary

players like Ramon Martinez, like Alvin Davis. Alvin Davis of the Seattle Mariners. You know he doesn't get talked about enough on radio. What Dave Stewart. How about Mike Devereaux? I remember Mike Devereaux out feel it for the Orioles and uh and and how about Bill Madlock, He was actually pretty What about Franklin Stubbs. Franklin Stubbs was going to be a star. He and Gregg Brock big stars.

Couldn't hit, couldn't hit. How about cal Daniels? Remember Calboski Daniels, a d H who played in the nationally the Knees of a ninety year old always Mr Podray, Tony Gwen. Did we mentioned Tony Pip Roberts. How about Bi Roberts, little bit Roberts running around great Ricky Henderson, Tony Phillips. Yeah, and keep we can keep going here, you want to keep going, keep going, We can go on all the Jesse Barfield on Lloyd Moseby old Toronto Blue Jays back in the day. Man. See now you ain't going too

far in the pack. Yeah, Jackie Robinson, Boom, Mike Drop, I win, all right, Adrian my high City says, been in Gascon once again. I have to give credit where it's due. Please bring back the pompous west of the four oh five guy. That big Mike character sucks. Wow, that's a shot. That's management. How dare you? Uh? Was was he in charge of producing editing the podcast recently? All three of them sounded like dogshit. Yeah, we've already

been over that. He says. On a more positive note, I finally got to listen to a live Ben Mallller show midnight to four am Tuesday morning here local time. Normally I'm a podcast listener, but with my job, I was out plowing snow overnight in April and got to listen live here in Denver on Outtitude Sports Radio nine on the A M dial. He says. Also, from what I understand, the Disneyland will reopen to California residents. I

think it's already opened. By the way. He sent this email a few days ago, I says, My kids are ten, nine and five, and my wife and I have been wanting to make the trip with them. Do either of you have any advice or tips for when the park opens to everyone? Hotels, fast passes, tickets, parking, et cetera. Man, I do not. My My family went to Disney World a couple of days ago. That's obviously in Florida. But Disneyland I do not know. Um well, I I like going to Disneyland. I grew up. I used to have

a pass. When I was in high school. We had passes. It were cheap if you lived in californ One. It's like a hundred bucks. You gotta past the Disneyland. Now it's like six hundred bucks or whatever is But yeah, I downtown Disney is pretty cool. Could vibe over there. I think the key I learned from some savvy Disney people is you've got to just take it. Get up early, and whatever the hot ride of the day is. I

guess the Star Wars thing is still popular. Um, you've got to make a mad dash, be one of the first people get there when the park opens. You'll stand online and then just sprint because most people don't get there. I've been there a few times when the park opens and you make the run and it's, uh, it's it's pretty it's pretty cool. Record Ralph actually gave me some advice. He's he's a Disney expert record Ralph of all people, what is your what's your protocol for desserts of Disneyland?

Like do you go do you go chocolate cover banana with nuts on them? Or do you go ice cream sandwich? No, I don't even do that. I go in not Disneyland proper California's adventure they had. I don't know if they still do. They have a what's that Northern California chocolate place starts with the g you know what I'm talking about? No, you don't know, I do not. No, you know in in l A we have Sees Candy Southern California, but in Northern California they have oh not Gared Delhi's. Is

that it? I think it's cured Deli's, is it? Yeah? Yeah. So this is actually one of my favorite things in live. I've never had a Gara Delis you've remember had Well, there's actually a place in Hollywood they have a shop there, but Gara Deli Chocolate at the place at Disneyland, they have a Cookie Sunday, which is uh it is. It is amazing. It's one of the great things I've ever had, just cookie madness. It is amazing, amaze easing amazing. Now do you have it cold or do you have it

hot or warm? No? No, I have it. It's it's just like I don't know if Sundays is describing it right. It's like a big bowl filled with vanilla ice cream and cookies, all different cookies. It's awesome. Yeah. In fact, I think that's one of the you know, I'm gonna cheat a little bit on my diet and uh partake in a cookie Sunday. I'm gonna go over to Hollywood in the wood in Hollywood and and have that. So's it's really good? All right? That's it, guest on another

weekend is then we will be back. I will be back on the radio to night to break down all that has happened, the good moves, the bad moves, what we love, what we don't love about the n f L draft. So we have that to look forward to. So have a great day. If you missed the Dave Parker Podcast, go back remember five stars, five Stars, five stars, and have a great rest of your Sunday. We'll talk to you that. Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven

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