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Maller starts right now in the air everywhere. It is a Friday Friday Friday edition of The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller, because four hours a night are not enough in the overnight, eight days a week, eight days a week here from the Magic Podcast Studio, even on the

extended holiday weekend. But I have learned from years past that there's actually more need for audio content on the holiday weekend because of Thanksgiving, people trying to get away from family, going on walks, going shopping, you know, the whole thing. So we are here. I debated whether to be here this weekend, but we were here, and we have the debut on Saturday's podcast of the new official rubber stamped UH sidekick for the Fifth Out That'll be

on Saturday. But today it's all me. But it's not me because we get to talk to someone who I find interesting, someone who uh either I know in work or I want to talk to him. This this week, we talked to someone who I have known for several years now, who is part of our Fox Sports Radio Fami Lee. And you might not know, if you're not a big radio nerd, how much stuff goes on behind the scenes to get everything ready, prepped to go on the air and all that stuff. And this guy works

his tail off. I call him the glue guy at Fox Sports Radio. And his name is Alex ty Shirt and he joins I call him the vegan and Alex welcome of the Fifth Hour podcast. I do call you the glog guy. How would you describe your your job? You don't work on my show. You worked on the shows before me, But I talked to you every single

night before the show. We do. Man, We have a fun ritual every time I dial you up for your show to take over the airwaves everywhere, I always tal you up and I stay down the line big bladder yes, and then I respond vegan here yeah, as an homage, as a tribute to your vegan lifestyle and one of the highlights Alex, as you know when the COVID thing became a big deal and they shut everything down and we didn't have sports, and so I was looking for

content and we had you pop in for Ask the Vegan. Yes, one of the greatest segments in the history of Fox Sports Radio, and we we picked your brain and you're still It's gonna be a tough weekend here. I know. Thanksgiving has passed here, but as a v in the highlight, the star for many in Thanksgiving is the turkey. Yes, and you're not a turkey guy. No. Actually, the fun thing about that too, Ben, as I always was a turkey guy growing up. The gravy on top is probably

the secret remedy to making it that much better. It's like in and Out. I don't know if you knew this, Ben, but I worked at in and Out for a little bit too. I did not realize, Yes, what was your job? Were you the fry guy in and out? So I made it to fry guy. The fun thing about in

and Out is there's levels to it. Bend. Everybody starts at the bottom, which is like basically customer service, cleaning up tables, going around and cleaning up the area and establishment eventually work up to being a guy behind the cashier, and then you go up to being like the potato guy in the back, the fry guy, the board guy, the cook guy, and then eventually management. I made it to fry guy, Ben, So you were right. I was

the guy dipping the frys. Well then and in and out Burger, which is great and wonderful and all that stuff. The synergy in the kitchen, yes, very impressive. You do not see that at all the fast food establishments. In and out Burger, there's a there's a really, it's a team. It's true. It's funny too, because Ben, out of all the jobs I've had, not only is that the one job I think that they take the employment factor to the extreme where they actually take care of everybody in

a great way. They have like a fair once a year for their employees, Ben, did you know this? And they still we used to do that back in the old days. They stopped doing that a long time ago. You guys had chocolate fountains and statues. I remember all them. Oh give me Ted, when I got in I'm lucky that I got into Fox Sports Radio in the days when they still were just really it wasn't Fox, it

was the Premier Network was just letting it ripped. Every year gala Christmas party in Beverly Hills, they flew everyone in from all over the country, all the big radio stars. And as a radio nerd Alex to be at the same party with Art Bell and dr Lor. These are heavy hitters in radio. A Matt Drudge I met one year. You did a syndicated show for for Premier. Jim Rome was the big star of the Premier networks. And all these big heavy hitters they'd bring in, and this guy

Craig Kitchen, who was the president. He'd get up there everyone he'd wear a tuxedo and oh it's crazy. Holy moly. Now you're lucky if you get an extra bag of chips out of the vending I got breaking news for you, Ben. The vending machine is broke at the moment, Suit, I heard about that. Now, who who broke the vending machine? Somebody had I don't think the machine broke itself. You were there a lot. Did you notice any kind of

illicit activity around the FSR vending machine? So, Ben, I have theories, and I believe that it might have been somebody that works with your team on the Overnight show. Bad. Is that right? Would you like to give the initials of who might be responsible there? It might be something that rhymes with oopa loop um. Interesting. So you believe there's a chance that somebody will call me as you said, the upper loop went on a rampage against the vending machine.

Now they're is a camera that is positioned to focus on the vending machine. They don't they take security very seriously at our company, Alex right. They do not want anyone stealing a seventy five cent bag of M and m's, I think, except the dollar now it's actually a dollar now, yeah, yeah, I think it might be more. They raised the president

when they first put that thing in. They remember they bought it was like a nineteen eighties vending machine, and they had nineteen eighties prices for all those Yes, I still remember that. The best part two is it always

sounds like it's a airplane about to take off. It would have heat this like cooling system initiation for the sodas at the bottom, and so we would have to actually close the studio door because we like to leave it open for air and stuff, but we'd actually have to close it because it sounded like it'd be taking off in about five minutes. It was hysterical. So I think what happened was they called somebody up and said, hey,

we need a vending machine. And they said that. The company's like, well, we have these lean vending cheens, the top model. You can't even hear them at all, and they're really just wonderful. And then they put a price on that, and so then whoever the company is like, Okay, well what I don't really have that kind of money. It's not in the budget. So what do you have in our price range? And I said, well, we can

go on the back. You know. It's like it's like when you go shopping at the TV and or a refrigerator, and I don't. I'm not riding any but I do the same thing. There's a big furniture store out in uh what's mathis Brothers in southern California. Great store, very expensive. So what I'll do is I'll go. I'll go there and I'll make the walk all the way to the back where they have the discount section. They're trying to

get rid of stuff. And that's where I start. That's always where I start, Alex, because I said, let me see if I can get a deal here right right, and then I'll work my way back to the more expensive stuff. That's funny. My mom is the same as you. She is a I would say, low tier, top quality businesswoman in a sense of knowing where every deal value isle is in any store you go to. It's impressive, Ben, Yeah, well you learned that as you become more frugal over.

I'm el Chipo, it's my nickname, not El chapo Chio. Okay, very very frugal. But yeah, years of radio, you know, I don't. I've never made the big, big money in radio, so I like to make the big money. I think I would still be thrifty. I wouldn't be on a shoe string budget or anything like. Sure, I would, you know, that's still shop on the dollar menu, but I would occasionally spurge a little more. Sure. It's like the encents. Uh.

To me, it makes sense. There's a lot of people who have a lot of money, and how do they stay in money, Ben, It's because they don't spend a lot of money, or they try not to, so they consume the wealth, hold onto it, and then use it. Like you said, Uh, Rob Parker type who goes to the Eloil local right here, and they up the prices for a soft drink from seventy five to eighty cents, and he flips out for five cents but five backpack. So, yes,

it makes so much sense. Yeah, we had well, we had Rob on the podcast and yeah, yeah he's we haven't. A couple of times he told a wonderful story about flying to the World Series in Atlanta's one of the great stories ever told. He bought a Spirit Airlines ticket, which is dirt cheap, and they charged for everything, like if you want to bring a bag, they charged it, so he didn't bring anything other than the smallest bag that was allowed as a carry on. He flies to Atlanta.

He then goes out to buy a few clothes to wear for the weekend at a discount store, right one of those dress for last type things. So he buys a few things to where he goes covers the World Series, and on the way back, he's flying the discount airline and because you know it's some money grubbing low ball, you can't put any pat you know, any clothes. So all the clothes he bought he just left in the hotel room and put a sign and he put. He drew a little note saying, Hey, for the person cleaning

the room, if you want these clothes you Yeah, that's awesome. Man. I can't get away with that. Man. I told my wife, let's travel like Rob Parker. She said, no, I like to bring my clothes with me when I travel. Oh my gosh. You know what's funny is he takes the extreme of how a lot of people, especially the ladies out there overpack where they need five out fits per day.

He told himself, I'm taking nothing and leaving with nothing. Yeah, he just went out bought a couple of pairs underwear, bought a couple of shirts, or you know, one or two. I don't think he was there that long and right, I can tell you the way inflation is going right now, man, this is the way of the future here, the Rob Parker model is the way of the future. With these prices swelling, uh, this infestation of inflation. I think he's

using his talents wrongly. Ben. I think he needs to go out there and be like one of those Jim buddies so everybody has like a personal trainer. Rob needs to be a personal spender for you and show you how to get through with everything and to curve the curving of the inflation. Now, as far as the story you told about him going into the boiled loco and the thing goes up five cents, he says, what that. I was the same way when I back when I was a batchler, and I would go around and I

did not have the healthiest diet Alex. I did, yes hard to believe when I was way way obese, that I ated a lot of bad stuff. So I don't need that great anymore. I just don't eat much. Be sure to catch live editions of the Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven p m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. We'll get to that in a minute. But so I'm I. I go to the Windy's. I loved Windy's the chicken sandwich and Windy's tombo with the chicken nuggets on the

side with the fries wonderful. So I'd go there, and I knew exactly and this is back in the days. I paid cash, so I brought just enough to cover the I knew exactly how much it was exactly right, And I've eaten there on the regular once or twice a week, so I knew exactly what the price was from my meal. I didn't change the order. I'm a creature, a habit. I got the same thing, and I'd go in there and drive through, and I did all the

the calculation. I'd already done that, and then all of a sudden, they're like, uh, the prices blah blah blah blah blah, and uh, and I said, well, no, no, no, no, that's not the price. I know exactly what the prices. And when we raised our prices or the taxes would go off. They'd raised the taxes, being in California taxation without representation, and how that worth last time? Yeah, yeah, So I'd get upset and this is this happened like

multiple times. I'd have the math and then it would be all of a sudden, it would be algebra, you know, calculus, or so it was because they they screwed it up. And every once a while I wouldn't even have enough money. I'd only bring the right amount of money to buy the said food items. Holy moly, yeah, he's likely. You know what's funny is like that's the one thing that

happened in and out too. When I was there, we would progressively sometimes have to increase annual prices to consistently bring the service to provide for the customers that they wanted. And it's funny, as you said, it's just because taxes went up on stuff, so their meat plans had to pay a little bit more. The potato place, the bun place,

which people don't know this bend in and out. They got all of their stuff by themselves, so they actually had their own bakery that they sponsored, their own butcher shop, their own potato farm. They did it all themselves. I thought it was really cool. Now, when I lived in the San Gabriel Valley, which I did for a while, there was an in and out University. Did you ever

have to go to in and out universe? So so basically that's the spot you go to once you hit level seven, which is basically that this like there's was that Tom Cruise, Yes, Scientology at the level seven they unlocked the special Scientology. That's so funny to be Uh yeah, Basically you start as a level one, climb up your way to level seven. Then after seven that's when like the big honchos and the black suits and the black sunglasses come to your house and night They're like, listen,

we would like to bring you into management. Would you like to join? So that's where you go to that academy, Ben when you want to do management stuff. That's wild. I have no I love in and out. I'm not saying this ripping it out. But when I went to the gym back before the the despot leader of California, Strett down all the gyms, and uh, I used to go to a twenty four hour gym. It was great. I'd go after the show hang out with my old friends. That show, I had a group of friends. I'm not

very social when I go out. I'm I'm an introvert. I don't talk to many people. You're more of an extrovert. But so I will, I will. I go to the gym, and I knew a few people, and they usually because they talked to me, not because I talked to them, and so they became friends. And usually older people go to the gym early in the morning. When I was there, and so there was a guy in there and he he had worked at In and Out Burger for like

thirty years or something, I mean his whole life. He was you know, he started as a kid in high school and worked you know, all the way through and they got rid of him, and he was swore. He was so upset. He claimed that because he was making too much money that they got rid of. Yeah, he had risen up the ranks of the restaurant. He was convinced because he got to a point where salary was so high. You can make a fair amount of money, though, and once you rise up, it's more money than some

of us making radio. And I've heard whispers. And I talked to the store manager at Store forty eight, where I worked in Norco back in college days. She was telling me that if you get up to management level and get one of those red aprons, the ones that are the store managers, you're making about six digits just to manage in and out. Wow, it's insane, my guy, it's a fairies. I think that's more stressful than what

we do. Is people say that, oh, you gotta do a radio show, and you gotta you know, you gotta be there exactly this time and finished talking at this time, and I'm like, yeah, I've done it a long time. But I go to these restaurants. You mentioned how crazy. It is in the back they're making the fries and the burgers and all that stuff. But it's it's a NonStop you're on if you do the rush, the rush

hour and in and out. It could be not just lunch, it it's overnight people going for a late night snack, and it's it's intense in there. For sure. You can't f up and you're messing with food. You mess up a burger tisher, holy moment happen. And that's the thing too. They have that model where the whole customers right things. So if somebody eats half a burger and brings it up and says, yo, I didn't like it, let me make you a new one. What you want different on it?

They always do that. And as you said, the high velocity lifestyle they had been if it was a downtime, so let's just say between dinner, late night rush, or maybe between lunch and dinner. If it's slow bend for at least a consistent thirty minutes to almost an hour, they'll send people home because there's nothing to do. That's how high strung the environment is is that they want you always go, go going, and if there's nothing to

go on and everything is spotlessly clean. They just start letting people go home early what we call them back though, because people that show up and that's where they suffer. It's all about trying to get the right management with the money spending for the employment. So basically you have to time and guess it off of the You're kind of guessing, is the best way to say. You're trying to think. Okay, it's a Tuesday night, it's already eight pm. We've hit a lot of already the dinner rush. How

many people are gonna come through at night? Can I get through with these crew members? I know these guys can do multiple things, and it's like basically a giant Jenga pun puzzle. They're trying to figure out which way to go with employment to benefit themselves. During the rushes, it was wild dude, wild environment. Yeah all right, well that's uh, that's interesting. You want another fun story about a job I had before Fox Ben, Well, of course

I don't want to hear about Fox. About other o the Grand Vegan Adventures, Yes, the Life of the Vegan. So this is way before I ever learned about life nutrition. This is back, I'd say in my big bend days before any of that big Yeah, oh for sure, for sure. So this was a job I had that I would consider bookworthy, if not movie worthy. So this was called a caretaker position, and it wasn't of older people. It was actually in a state. So the way I found this job, and before I get into you with you'll

set it up perfectly. At the time, I was dating my X and she was working at an animal hospital and so one of her co workers was a dog trainer, had her own company, and she met a couple. It was a gay couple, a guy named Bruce and Rob, and so they were looking for somebody to be a caretaker of their estate. And they're very wealthy guys. They have like a ballroom gown collection. A big company was

called Masquerade. They would make all the stuff in J. C. Penny's, you name it, from ballrooms to they even did like prom stuff, even special wedding dress orders. Had a couple of factories over in China. It was insane that they're big polarization of their company. So they had an estate in Norco by me Ben, which is like Horsetown, USA. I think you've heard of it, Ryan, Yes, I've actually driven through norc Yes, it's three exits. It's a far far away out in the outskirts. Yes, you're not far

from Riverside, no nor code. It's more it's closer to which is out in the well I consider the boondocks. But now I live kind of in the buddocks where I am now same and I'm about an hour from work. So that's exactly where I live as the Cron area right by Norco and so in Norco Ben they had an estate. It was a four acre property, three houses on the property and they were looking for somebody to be the caretaker, which was a six day a week job early morning till late at night, so about six

to six. And your job was not only to take care of the estate, to do the maintenance work, to take care of the horses they had. They had two horses on the estate. They had a bunch of animals. They had goats, lamas, ostriches, chickens, you name it. They had an insane it was like their own petting zoo basically at their estate. And so the job they wanted was not only to do all that, take care of

all the other stuff. Micro managed the other employers that would come the cleaning people, the pool people, you name it. And when they're gone, you're basically like the homeowner. You take care of everything while they're away, either for business or pleasure. And so I went for this interview Ben. Keep in mind them only twenty years old at the time, right. My ex just kind of tossed the idea of my way and staid, they're looking for somebody they like references.

Why not go look at it because this was when my ex and I were living at my mom's house at the time, and love my mom and everything, but at that time, I was like, you know what, I think it's probably best with me in my ex find our own place. So I went and checked the place out, Ben in real, unreal place. It was insane how massive the houses were, the whole estate. And I'm sitting there kind of rubbing my head like can I handle all this?

You know, like this is this is pretty incredible from going from like a part time job I was working at America's Tires to that. So I was like, huh, sat down with them, talk to him. They loved my personality and everything. They're like, we hit it off, and they said, okay, we like you. But the youngest person we've ever hired for this job is thirty years old. They said. The youngest person we've ever hired his thirties. Like, you're about to be twenty one in a few months.

He's like, do you really think you can handle this? And so I kind of sat there and looked at him and I was like, you know what, I think I'm the man for this job. Went for I went for it. And you know what? Did you have to feed a llama? Oh? Everything you fed, every animal you took care of. Give me, give me a list. Now, what kind of alama is not a normal pet? What about an ostrich man? They had ostriches too, aren't ostriches?

I've heard stories that they're very angry, that they kick you and they get up, And I've also heard that that which I repeat all the time, bury the head in like in the sand, like an Ostrich. Yes, so they never didn't do that. No, yeah, I heard that's just urban legend. I think so too. They never did that. But I will say Bobby, the guy Ostrich, he had a mad crush on me. He was always trying to sleep with me. Really, yes, he's trying to use flirtatious

you have ever seen a mating dance that the ostriches do? Uh? I don't. I have only spent a little time around ostranges. So there is a place in where is that north of l A? There's an ostrich farm. You can go and check out the ostriges, but not spent a lot of time. Where is that? There's that little town north of l A. You know what I'm talking about things? So yeah, solving ever been a solving on the way to solving in the town next to solving in north

of l A? There's an ostrich farm? But so the ostriche What is an ostrich If the ostrich is feeling feeling horny, feeling you and wants to spend some quality time yes with you, and the ostrich love with you? How awkward would that be? And and how does that go? What's the move their head over heels and love? You know, it's funny, Ben, I think that's where they said bearing the head and the other kind of sand, if you know what I mean. So what it would do, Ben,

which was hysterical. It would drop on the floor. It would spread its wings out almost like a peacock does with the I don't know if people know this, but the male peacocks actually have the feathers, not the female, And what they do is they bring them out and they show off all of the feathers and they do

a dance. So what the ostrich does is it basically drops it to the floor, puckers its head up like almost like an arc, and then it flutters its feathers and kind of slaps his neck around on his wings to kind of like get you intrigued or maybe like

drop endorphins. That's like the candlelight dinner, yes, exactly. And it's literally showing off all its stops and it will keep going if you're in front of it, but as soon as it starts to glance you walking away, it stops, umps up and runs after you, like, bro, what up? You didn't like my dance? This is the the osteges. Hubbahubb hubba. Come on, it's basically the peppy Lippi kind of thing, right, it's and don't they have big eyes?

Osteges have right, So not forget puppy dog guys. He's a giant ostrogi huge man like make a fist and that's how big these eyes are on these It was an insane job. Insane I would have. There's a lot of smells. I guess you must not not be worried about the smells. I just spent some time. I went to a private zoo years ago. Relative had some some dough they had. There was a private zoolie. It wasn't like an individual owned it, but it was like prival.

You hadn't know somebody to get in. But the smells being around the back side of the animals was rather repulsive, i'd say been. The worst part was the chicken coop. Oh, my lord, I don't know what chickens is in that chicken feed. It looks like just seeds to me. But whatever that comes out of him, holy Molly, all the good smell must go in the eggs in because it was disgusting, my guy. I don't know why. It was just the chickens. Everything else is all right. You get

used to it now. Is that what led you to become a vegan? I never thought of it that way, but I think that might have been a small part. Yeah. Absolutely, you didn't read a book. There's some book that I've heard that if people read that book, it's so powerful, so sinister will turn you to the vegan lifestyle really. In fact, there was a guy, a baseball player, Prince Fielder, who I think it was. I think it was he read that book. Maybe he watched a movie, but there

was something. I thought it was the book and there's some book that you read and he's, oh, I can't, Oh you know what. It might be a Netflix special and called like cows anchor something. Have you heard of that one? It's like basically where they show you the whole process of the dairy industry and the butchering industry for cows and beef. Oh yeah, I maybe that. I don't know what it was, but it was something. And I remember there was a documentary I saw called Big Chicken.

I think was Did you see that one? The documentary? Yeah, And that was about how how corrupt the chicken industry is in American all this, I wouldn't doubt it, man, I just know for a fact when chicken farmers get screwed and all that. Yeah, I was gonna say, I remember from watching the stuff I've seen, and it wasn't

even what it led me to. My ultimate change in my lifestyle was more health reasons than just overall well being, but I've seen some of those things, Ben, and it's like, Man, if majority of people say that, I think when you look at that chicken nuggets on the side of your chicken sandwich, Ben, you might be like, I don't know if this price increases worth the pain now? Yeah, well no, like with the whole big Chicken thing. I we did a whole podcast last year really yeah yeah last year,

right around the time the COVID stuff started. Because this this documentary was amazing. I Morgan Spurlock, the documentary maker, made it, and it was just like they went over like the twenty billion chickens around the globe that it was amazing numbers there, Like it was insane. I wouldn't doubt it that they go through people through forty three pounds of chicken per second. You're a kidding man. Uh yeah, there's there's three point seven million pounds per day that

are consumed. The volume in big Chicken. It's uh. And they fatten them up with all kinds of oh yeah things to make the hormone all that other stuff. They get some nice and juicy and plump for you. They say, a if a human I remember I remember this from the documents to have a human grew at the rate of a modern day broiler chicken, a two month old baby would weigh six d sixty pounds. So these things, yeah, like these things within six weeks, they can be massive.

Like they've mastered the art through science. They've figured out how to get them tremendously fat plump. For I'm sure I do the same thing with turkey, right, And I'm not doing this to that I eat chicken all the time. You're the vegan. I'm not. And I take in the position here in my life that I don't want to know where my food comes from. And and that's not that's not only for like meat, that's for other stuff.

If I knew where my my mayonnaise or my catchup came from and what was involved in that, I probably wouldn't eat that either. It's ignorance is bliss. You're not wrong. Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show week days at two am eastercific. I think that's for myself, Ben. When I started having these random little health problems, like, for example, swollen glands because I have like abnormal size glands in under my mouth area. So they just produced a lot of a sliva. I kept

like looking in for reasons. I was like, okay, so why is this happening When to doctors, specialists, you name it, everybody's conducting tests. One guy even took like a chip out of my lip bend to like test to see if my antibodies were attacking my cells and my glands and that's why they were inflamed and all of these things under the sun. And nobody had an answer. So I finally like took it under myself and I was like, you know what, maybe I should just go back to

the source of like what am I ingesting? What am I putting in my body? And I kid you, not the biggest thing for myself, And it might help somebody out there that's listening if you ever suffered with like saliva or any type of acne or a lot of producing of mucus was dairy. Dairy was the biggest thing for myself. So you got rid of the milk and the yam and all that stuff, and you're the body just couldn't break it. Yeah, I couldn't break it down.

It was just dust turning into mucus, and it wasn't able to digest it, and so cutting that out entirely, your body is like, hey, bro, thank you for letting us turn the car off for a little bit. And ever since then, Ben, you can't really just go back when you find open waters. Right well, speaking of diet Alex, I gotta say, you know, I got several messages from members of the Mallard militia here that we're busting my balls because the Times of London did a story this week.

I don't know if you saw this, and at the Times of London did a story debunking the Interminute fasting diet. Interesting. Yeah, they pretty much claimed it there's no there's no advantage, that it doesn't work any better or worse than uh any other diet, the five two diets, and it said they said it's no more likely to serve up success than any other diet. Really, I say it's bullshit. Okay, I say that's bullshit now. I and they claimed also that we're part of a cult if you're in this

this diet. And I have tried every diet on the planet as a recovering morbidly obese individual. At my fattest I was close to five pounds. I went forward in life and I tried every diet and this is the one. Now. I lost a lot of weight without doing interiminute fasting, and then I gained it back once I stopped doing what I was doing. And so but this has been able to I've been able to maintain my weight and lost more weight with interiminute fasting. So I am a

big believer in it. And I I know all these guys love busting my balls, but you also live a similar life, right, you just follow that model. You don't eat that much. You eat once a day or something like that, once to twice a day. And I would say that science or whatever the vacuing wants to support that is complete bullshit. Ben. It's to me that sounds like people were trying to have a biased perspective of what they wanted to accomplish with that narrative behind it.

And to me, I'm a proud supporter of intermitted fastening because, like you said, myself, everything I tried when I was getting into the workout lifestyle of eating more chicken and rice, upping your carbo hydrate intake, trying to make yourself eat four to five meals a day, all this bull crap and you basically try to realize. Okay, so what is the premise of nutrition and what does my body need? And less is more so for myself. I know you

probably said it as well. I only eat one to two meals a day and that's within a six hour window and then the rest of the time I don't touch food, not at all. Just water. Team that's it. And I can tell you from my own personal experience, not only does it help me maintain my weight that I'm at, but it allows me within those six hours if I want to splurge, I can, because then you have nothing else to overcome what you're already doing consistently.

And your body has the ability to break down the foods properly to digest the actual nutrient value within it. And also it's like a car. Once you turn off the engine for about twelve hours. The next four hours it can actually clean your body. I don't know if people know this, Ben, this might be a conspiracy theory here, but your body has the ability to heal itself and clean itself out of diseases, bacteria and all of that if you give it a chance to might be a

theory there for you. Ben, look at that I like, you know, I I occasion during the week, I usually once a day and I'll skip. I try to skip to two days where I'll go like forty five forty eight hours without eating and try to get to fasting it. That's the the science of that claims it's you're you're burning the most, You're you're losing what. There's that that sweet spot once you fast for I think it's thirteen hours. After that your body kind of goes into the mode

where it starts burning fast. I believe it because it I've seen the results. So I believe. And I think that the issue with people trying to debunk the like the Times of London, my theory is it's because with any any life, this is more about like a lifestyle thing, but anything you change, if you're cheating on it, going in the fridge and eating three day old meat both or that take out box of General Sal's chicken, you're you're not being true to the lifestyle. I mean, you've

got to be pretty regimented. And if you go off that, and where all people are fallible and make mistakes, right, humans are prone to error, and so the diet's not gonna work for you. If you do a fasting diet and you're snacking and you're not following the diet and it's not gonna it doesn't work. Yeah, because it's simple math. It's calories in, cali's out whatever. For sure. It's like the whole narrative people say, like if a tree falls in the woods bend, does it make a sound if

no one's there to hear it. It's the same thing. If you're in the kitchen by yourself eating Oreo cookies, you're putting the calories on. I don't care if nobody's there to see it. Or Alex, if you do a radio show overnight and no one's awake, does anyone hear it? That's the question. Well at times, but I think at size, But no, Like you really bring on a good point. And I tell people this all the time, especially if

anybody is interested in health. Because of how I've changed not only the things that were damaging my body, but how I turned out to live. You don't need to go extreme and go all plant based or anything like that. It's just like moderations on things to overall help yourself and your outlook on life. So as you said, if you do simplicities of just making sure you eat within a certain window, whether it be eight hours or six hours.

Treat it like a job in a sense. So you know, from let's say twelve pm to a p m. This is the time I can eat food. And if you follow that consistently for at least two months, you will see your body not only change with its energy levels, the digestion rate, the nutrients you get, your overall physique. It's insane how much a simple thing of just when you eat can change everything. I think that's why Ben

you know this too. There's a reason why the first wee meal we eat is called breakfast, because you're breaking a fast and fasting is very important. Is why they talk about in the Bible and throughout all of time fasting has been a big staple well. But also the modern breakfast is a creation the fools people need. Is a creation of a big business. So you've got that also, and it's one of my favorite We've talked about this on the podcast before, but the slogan which has repeated

breakfast is the most important meal of the day. It was a catchphrase that the guy that sold Kellogg's cereal back in the day, Hey, we got to sell more cereal. And so this is a marketing slogan. It was in genius, it is it has become part of the zeitgeist of the society. Passed you better eat breakfast is the most important meal. Yeah, that's hysterical to me because a long time people didn't eat break No, my mom's side, Ben, I know if I told you this. My whole family

is from outside of the country. So my mom, I'm the first born on both sides. My mom is from Macedonia and my dad is from Germany, and so in Macedonia culture, they don't even really eat breakfast. They're big thing is dinner. They have a nice dinner when everybody gets home, and that's pretty much in light me along the way out. Kind of maybe a little bit of a lunch, but it's mostly like they combined lunch and dinner and have one big meal at the end of

the day. Yeah. Well, so here's I guess we're sounding like we're in a cult here, Jonestown. What's your favorite called Heaven's Gate Branch? Davidians Maybe you're a Manson guy. I don't know that, but but no, I really by buy it and I see these stories, well this this is not true. Well you can say it's not true, but for me it's true. Maybe for other people it's not true. But and for you it's worked out pretty well.

I think it's more so as you said, it's like what are you trying to get out of it and anything in life? Are you true to it or not? That's what will make there you go. I completely agree. I want to get back to the your role though, I call you the glue guy at Fox Sports Radio, and you work I'm trying to get your schedual. I know you work on the Jason Smith Show and the Rob Parker Chris Broussard shows. Are those two main main shows?

Is that? Yeah, I've been everywhere around this network, man, but as of right now, that is the consistent where I'll do the three to seven, which is excuse me, four to seven, which is the odd couple with Christopher sorry, Rob Parker, and then I'll do the seven to eleven and this is all Pacific time with Jason Smith and Mike Harmon and then occasionally filling on the TV side for Colin Cowherd when they need a good looking face

once in a while. So yeah, So we need to get to that because as the glue guy, you know, you're in the inner circle. Alex. When you get the call from the O G. Colin Cowherd's people and they say, we're going to the bullpen. We're tapping the arm here. We need to bring in out of the bullpen, Alex to come in here and help out. Is that for those that don't know, Alex. Uh, we do the show

from one studio, the Fox Sports Radio. The most of the shows come out of one studio, but Colin does it's a TV show that happens to be on the radio, and so he does his show from the Fox lot. We used to have, uh, our studios, we used to have all the shows would occasionally work out of the Fox lot. I did in the early days of Fox Sports Radio. Is there all the time? It's a different

world though, right, I mean night and day. It's described the difference between working the regular Fox Sports Radio shows and then the Holy Grave and Power. You know what's funny is like to this? To me? When I come into the studios for radio, it's so laid back. Everybody's in sweat sweatpants. There's only a few people here, especially the COVID days and all you have to do is just scan your card at the front. Let's see in the gate you park your car, scan your car key

to get in. Uh right into the building here and just set up for the show, get to sit down, a couple of little studios. It's all available and open. The Fox slob Bend is a world of its own. I kid you not. When you're driving up to this place, not only does it have billboards upon billboards on the outside, these massive gates that looks like it's the Great Wall of China and I'm about have to scale this to

get to the other side. As soon as you drive in, there is a horde of security people everywhere the gates. They have to say can I see some I d Can I get your name? Who are you here for? What show? It's insane. I feel like I'm really about to go into the X Files or go over to Area fifty one and find out the deepest dark secrets of the world. Dude, just a phone for a TV show? Right, So you finally go in, they have this massive parking structure that's insane. How deep it goes I don't even

know how deep it goes. Maybe to the end of the earth. So I'll park on the first level. Usually I sleep in my car for a couple of hours because I live so far away, so I'm trying to be traffic so I'll wake up. You walk out, it's a massive open area. They have their own restaurant, they have their own gym. I mean, you name it, Ben, They have like a whole area where if the world was to end, people say, Costco, I'm going to the Fox slot. There's everything I need there, and there's so

many massive gates. Good luck even breaking the facility. It's insane, dude, Like they literally have so much stuff in this area. And keep in mind, Bend, not only did I go through the first security, once you walk through the lavish area, You've got a whole another round of security guys to go through now to get into the actual TV part. So I was like, hold up, what, I just had to go through that to park, but now I got to go through this to get inside. It's insane, dude,

It is nuts. It's his own eCos film. I'm very fortunate because I'm I'm old, I guess. But and when we we had the access, when I had access to the Fox lot. I was there on September eleven, the kid. Yes, I was working at the Fox lot that day and before nine eleven, Holy crap was it was well, he didn't walk in. You had to have a pass, but there was like one security guard at the front, and it was just a gate, one of those armbar things

that would go down whatever. But I had the run of the place, and I this was the I have such great memories of running around those the back lot there where you have all the like the New York sky Line and they have the little uh, you know, the little villa little how would you describe it. They filmed a bunch of TV shows and movies. It's a movie a lot. And back in those days, they didn't really care, you know you. I just walked around and I'd have friends come into town from out of town.

I'm like, hey, let's I'll take into the Fox lot. You can walk around the New York Skyline. And it was awesome. It was great, you know. We it was like you were in the movies, you know, wandering around and you got to see what was behind that stuff. And and then nine eleven happened, and I remember coming back after a few days after nine eleven, and it was like a demilitarized zone immediately. I mean it just within a couple of days. They had you had to

zeke Zac because they're worried about car bombers. And on September eleven you mentioned that big parking garage. They came in they told us we all now I had being on the West coast. We started after the attacks had happened, but we didn't realize the at that time. We didn't know the impact. I started the morning and before it really came to like what exactly was going on here? And so they had us all get out. Anybody that

was parked in the garage. We had to move our car out of the garage to somewhere else because they were worried about some kind of attack. They didn't know if they were going to attack the movie studio or anything like that, and so we had to we had to move our cars. It was was surreal. But I have great memories of that place though, because before the big security days, in a different world, just wandering. Have you had a chance have you been able to wander

around that offits Well? I used to be able to, but now with like the COVID thing. It's like up another level from dmilitarized base and now an actually military base with testing facilities and everything everywhere. So before this happened, yes, I have wandered around and looked at it, and it's it's almost like if we I was to go back to them, if I started a TikTok account back then, I could have been somebody by just doing different skits

from the locations they had available. Oh, it's great. You can be anywhere in the world just wandering around the movie lot there. It's awesome. And that lot is in a very congested part of Los Angeles in West l A where the real estate is pretty pricey. There. It's not far from Beverly Hills and Century Cities right there, and that's some very expensive real estate. It's very booge. Yes,

I'm surprised they've kept it there. I'm surprised they haven't gone out to the boondocks and built new studios because real estate is very pricey. You think you think they have like a returning membership discounts, so they've been there for so long they kind of keep the original price. Yeah, I don't know how that works, but everyone's trying to cut back on money. These days, you can save a lot of money and sell that to some real estate broker and you can build houses there. But part of

the charm. One of the things about living in l A, though it is part of the charm, is you're never that far away from a movie study, right right, You're not that far away, And that's part of the the razmatazz. That's so funny to me l A. The you're not into the making the movies, and I'm not. I used to be more into it than I am, you know, Like for myself, Ben, I've never been one of those guys that was really into entertainment factor with movies and anything um as you know, I'm a big anime guy

and everything. But to me, it's like the glitz and glamour of the l A lifestyle. And I think it's more so like the Vegas the lights and sounds, and you get so caught up into it. But once you get there, you're like, Okay, it's gonna take me an hour to go two blocks away. There's people everywhere, the prices are outlandish. It's almost like once you really get

the gist of it, and the honeymoon phase fade. Since I live so close by, it's like, you know what, I think I'll avoid it on the weekends just so I can actually enjoy my time in position where I'm at personally at least. No, no, I I I hear you. Yeah, and you end up taking friends when they come in from out of that. Let's do the Hollywood Walk of Fame and look at all the homeless people besting for money and fitting and pissing on the streets. Have you

been to Venice lately? Holy crap, my guy. And it was bad before. I can only imagine now. Then when COVID hit and they shut down like the places for people that are homeless to stay at, it was a It looked like a tsunami blew through Venice Beach and all of the junk was left over there. These people are hordes of them. Then it blew my mind when I went to see it. Holy crop, and I used to when I lived in l a proper. I love. Venice Beach is one of the great spots that you

can watch. It's like you're at the zoo. You're watching other people. Yeah, exactly, it's a free ticket and it's just the vibe I loved it. I I heard somebody told me. Buddy of mine who lives down there, told me that I don't know if this is still the case. That they turned some of the parking garages where they just allowed they have a lot of parking there, they

allowed the homeless to like sleep there. They've made it into like not a homeless shelter, because it's not a shelter, but it's the people have been putting tents in there and stuff, and they were camping out inside the parking garage. It's like a shanty town. Man. Hey, if they have somewhere safe and it can't be against that. Yeah, well, l A in general, like downtown Los Angeles, it is my goodness. I think they finally started to clean that

up a little bit. The political class finally realized that there's a lot of people paying good amounts of money in property taxes. You might they don't think they want to live in a third world environment. You might want to help take care of this, and it's it's a it's a problem obviously because of the weather in California's there's more homeless people now. Also because of everything going on with the economy and all that stuff. And I'm with people that don't want to work. There's also people

just want to live out of double bag. Dude, Ben, I don't know if you know this per se where your area is, but where I'm at I'm close to Ontario where it's all the warehouses, Like there's a huge Amazon facility. Any big company you can think of, they have their warehouses. When I drive down to say my friend's house to record our podcasts and stuff, or just to go out and about, I've never seen in my

life these many for for higher signs, wanted signs. It's insane, Bro, I have never seen it this bad, to where if I, like God forbid, something happened, I'd have a job in a day, Ben, I could go to seventeen places in under five minutes from my house. It's insane to me. And I gotta tell you. People think, oh, you're working radio, You're never gonna do it. No. I I feel comfortable at any moment, as you know, being in radio, Alex, I could say something that will get me fired. Right,

this is a loaded weapon. I'm talking into a megaphone and if the person here that is offended by it and raises hell, I'm out I'm gone, and so I'll be like, well, I'll get a regular job. I'm not against that. I've always said I'll work at Costco or something like that. Maybe I'll get a job in and out like you used to work. But I'm willing to work. I'm a worker. I like to work, and I feel a little it's wrong. I don't know if it's wrong to say this or not. But when I see all

these employment, hey I'll work. That means like, hey, I can get a job if I have to, like, if I need, I got bills to pay, and if I can't work where I'm working now, I can go work wherever, and and so that's the way to go. I see a lot of Amazon. I Amazon. I don't know they pay very well, but they I get in on that to do the stock, to get the Amazon stock. Well. They also have Amazon airports now that they're building for

shipping like ups and usps and stuff. They're making their own mailing facilities and stuff for also shipping their products around the world. So they're buying up airplanes and making up their own airports. It's insane. Amazon's taking over the world. Yeah, now are you anti Amazon? Here? They have the there's some people very upset with him. I'm not upset with Amazon. I'm not. They're at they deliver a service. People like the service they're they're apparently good at it because people

continue to pay for the service. Side, I'm fine with it. And now there are there should be some kind of guardrails because you can't. You don't want to have the mega mega Mega MEGAMEGA where they overtake everything, and there's a there's a sweet spot where you're okay. And sure, I think when when everything's Amazon, it becomes a but

I'm generally speaking, I'm fine. You know. What's what's funny for myself is, as you said, I've never really been an anti anything guy because I don't believe in telling anybody how to live their life. Just giving people options. I think that's the best way so people can learn. I can tell you not to jump off that bridge, Ben, but until you somehow try to, you won't know why I'm telling you not to. It's just the way the

world goes well. Yes, And also, like laws don't stop people belief that if you put more laws in for anything, people always bring up the gun thing, which blows my mind. But just in general, but just in general, like you know, people that follow the law aren't going to break the law. Rape and murder have been illegal for as long as I can remember, but people still rape and people still murder, So it doesn't I guess it makes people feel better.

The laws makes people feel bad. Well, no, you're actually right, you brought that up. I'll do this quick side tangent for you. I read this study that was conducted on

elementary kids in different locations for recess playtime. So the two different areas they had was one was an open field it was more like I think Central America somewhere where there was just a lot of forest station and an open range area for them to play at a playtime where they went some more of like industrial kind of like uh, suburb kind of areas where they actually had gated play areas for the kids. So they conducted the research to see what the kids did during the

playtime and how comfortable they felt. And they've noticed that in the areas where all the kids have the freedom to go as far as they want to go, as run a down, play whatever they wanted to do, they all stayed extremely close to the teachers because they felt there was too much out there as comparison to the suburb ones where they had the gated off areas, that kids would go to the ends of the gates everywhere they could because they felt comfortable in a boxed off area,

so they felt they were safer knowing their limitations, other than the kids who had the freedom to go as far as they want. Funny how you mentioned that with laws right, how it makes people feel safer. Yeah. I think it's funny because, as you mentioned, like the whole gun thing and everything too, It's like it seems like such a simple concept for me. Guns aren't killing people,

it's people are killing people. So the availability Ben, say, you and me right now, we had a heated debate talking about Tom Brady and he's the greatest of all time, and you didn't think so if there's a gun between us, Ben, no one in our right mind should everything to use a gun to dispute an argument, no matter how emotionally to range either of us. Get right, Yeah, No, I that's a third round back too, Amazon, my man, that I think that for sure. For sure, I have no

issue with monopoly situations. It's just that when it gets to such an extreme where people are reliance on it and then just don't go down the streets to their family owned businesses or stuff. You can get it available and build connections with people like build friendships. I know you can agree with this, Bend Radio. It's all about

who you know, especially in any concept of life. I can name you tend people off the top of my head, Bend that work at fast food, joins the gym's, I go to, the grocery stores I go to, and I've built such good friendships with them. They are more sore, prioritized and not only take care of you too, but to help you. And it feels like a family environment. I love that. And I feel like Amazon can hurt that a little bit, just a little bit. Yeah, Well, the secret to life is it's not what you know.

It is who you know. That's it. And it's very frustrating, and I always point out that. I try to point out to people, like I've worked with people in radio. They've been complete assholes to everybody, and I'm like, what are you doing here? I mean, the as the old saying goes, right, the same people you're gonna see on the way up are the same people you're gonna see on the way down, and they're not gonna treat you very well on the way down if you were an

asshole on the way up. So just you know, try to try to be okay. And I and I'm being in radio for a long time now, Uh, it was on my list. I hope this would happen. And I've been in long enough. Were people that were interns and producers when I was getting in are now program directors and now running radio stations. And so these are these are people that if I needed a job, I could cry off and they know me and they don't hate me for whatever reason. So it's it's amazing how fast

life goes in general. You don't realize it when you're in your you know, very young starting out, but bam, in the blink of an eye, you're like, wait a minute, now I'm like middle age or something like that. And uh and now like whoa, Holy Moses, I can't believe it's I can attest to that. Ben. I'm thirty one now, and so when I was in high school up to like graduated almost i'd say the beginning of college years,

life felt extremely slow. I can't take you back to an hour an hour of algebra two class, and it felt like an eternity, Ben compared prison. And now a whole month will fly by doing radio and stuff here, and I look back, I'm like, holy crap, it's already going to be December. That's insane to me. How when you get in the flux of your daily rotation, especially when you do something you love per se, time just keeps flowing without you noticing. It's so cool to me. Yeah, well,

it's they've been studies on that. I think it's something to do with when you're a kid. Your perception of time is different because you haven't been alive that long, and the long longer you've been alive, the quicker things go. But I do believe in the keep your head down method, on one foot in front of the other and being in radio and working day in and day out, and just kind of time. You're like this weird time bubble.

I agree with you. Situation now now it's I was gonna say real quick about how as you said taking care of people to Ben is because the one day they could be your boss. I think if everybody lived with the notion of just pushing it forward and just being a good person, bro, who knows where it will take you, especially with the friends and family you build. I think it's great. Yeah, yeah, we don't need all these the woke, this, the wold. It's not that hard.

You don't need all these praise, you know, all these other bull crap that people come up with. To just treat other people nice. That's it. You don't have to be a dick, you know, and you don't have to you know, you don't need special treatment because of this man the other just people nicely, that's it. But I disagree with you, Ben, It's fine to just be like you know what. I can agree to disagree, but I still love you for a person. It's very simple to me.

That's what I always I listened, like with Looney, who doesn't work in our place anymore, that Tom Moody. Yeah, but like with him that he's a you know, I call him a limousine liberal and I'm more on the conservative, more on the conservative side. But we would we would debate, you know, side by side. And but I love Looney my good friends. I've known him for many many years. But you know, he's he's around my age or whatever, and we can debate and we just like, you know,

he thinks I'm an idiot. I think he's an idiot, and we're fine. And uh, but it's just politics. Who cares, you know, It's what I'm saying, big deal. It shouldn't drive families apart, like, for example, with the Trush exsume me the trump erra when we actually had him as president. You don't have any families broke up over that. Ben, That's insane to me. Like the fact people always say politics religion and I don't know, whatever it was, you can't talk about it, or people get hot. Why what's

wrong we thinking differently? Ben? Tell me yeah, no and yeah, like you've got cooties or something. You think a weird way. It's like, come on, it cracks me up and knock it off. And then then you only your thoughts are right. Sure, nobody else can be right. Only only uh, you know your your correct. Now I have to mention before we put the baby to bed. Here, you are an anime star in a way right now. I don't know much about Animal I'm not gonna lie to you. I don't

know much about it. I've seen it a few times. But you live in this world which is a foreign world to me. Yes, it, and you have you we've talked because I talked to you five nights a week or four nights. We don't get Sunday night Sunday to money, but I talked you most of the week, and you have told me little nuggets about this anime. You've got a podcast that you do. You you go to anime convention.

Like there's a whole different world that I don't know much about, So explain it to me, Like I'm five years old. The world that you're in here for sure. So basically, remember Ben, when we were growing up and we watch cartoons like w B or you had Looney Tunes or whatever it was. Yeah, the same concept. It's basically like, these are animations made from an Eastern culture.

That's why they called anime. And the whole realm about it that I'm in trance wit and I love is the fact that you can create a story from nothing. Give me characters that have such a vast range of not only developing themselves but overcoming these obstacles to show you referencing to relatability with your own life. But the word world development is so monstrous within these realms. It is basically like the modern day video gaming aspect of how intransit it can be and involving with kids who

get into it. So myself, I grew up watching all of it because when I was growing up here in the States, we have things like Yugo, Pokemon, and these were like the first origins of anime that was introduced to us because we're so used to animation, which is and it sounds crazy, but I know anime and animation. Animation is Western where anime is Eastern, but it's off the same basic development style, just different type of artworks

and producers. So we grew up with like Disney Channel and all that other stuff, where the other side had their own development, whereich is more deep with Naruto and Dragon Ball Z and those shows blew up so much

within the recent five years. I'm so excited for it because I think a lot of people have overlooked them because they think it's kitty or they think it's something more for children, when it necessarily I've met so many adults in my life, for people that are even older than me, been that have been into anime way longer than me, that are some of the best people you'll ever meet and the community itself is in transit because these people think so open mindedly because of the type

of environments these shows give you, whereas more modern day TV is more reality TV, which I could argue, I think there's a little bit more harm than good. So

I kind of developed myself into this lifestyle. And since I've been given a platform working with great people like yourself and being able to entrance myself with the world in the culture, I wanted to envelop it and bring it more of attention to other people who are outside of it, or give people a home in somewhere they can be entertained and learn more informational base if they're involved within it. So, as you said, the beginning of

this year, I went to Texas. I flew all the way out there because we got invited to a convention to host a panel for this environment, to bring people's attention to that. There's podcasting, there's YouTube, there's entertainers and people who are building a platform for themselves to be that spokesperson, just like we have with the sports realm with yourself, where we have with Ryan Seacrest with music or Steve Harvey with entertainment. There's a whole another realm

that people don't even realize. Ben, And I'll say it here first with your show. Within the next five years, Ben, anime is going to skyrocket here. It is gonna be insane how big it blows up, and you're the gonna be the Ryan Secret. So someday I will be able to brag Alex you had you on this podcast because you know I'm not listen. You give become such a big deal in that world that we won't be able to book you. Oh you know it's it's not gonna happen.

You'll you'll blow up and you'll be gone from Fox Sports Radio and I'll be able to say that get used to work at Fox Sports Radio. Ben. I'll tell you right now on this show. You have my phone number. I will always make time for you that number. You get famous, then I can't promise anything that. Yeah, I've bet friends that have been blown up and then they're like, I can't get ahold of you. Your number change? What happened? I don't understand. No, I promise you, Ben, I definitely do.

And I think like this is why it's a great time, and I thank you for asking me about it. I think people, it's like, until you give something a try or see something from a different perspective, that's why racism exists. That's why poverty, what's why separation exists, because people just don't give something another opportunity to And I fondly will tell you here, Ben, anime is a great realm. That's why I love it. Yeah, well that's that's great. And

you you want to promote your podcast? How can people if they're interested in want to for sure? Yeah, your podcast? How can they thank you for that? So we have uh, we do it on any platform. You can search for it. I Heart Radio, Spotify, iTunes, you name it. It's just three simple words. It's weeb w e B not weed. I know. Rob Parker's like weird Nation. I don't you gotta smoke the weed? Well, California based, I know's what they do. It's we w e B we'b nation podcast.

And it was something that me and my buddy started together in this exact studio. I'm sitting doing this with you now, Ben, that's just a fun thing we wanted to do. I told him, like, I have studios available, this is before COVID. Why don't we just come up in here, chop it up, have some fun talk anime. And now within just a little over a year, Ben, we've had a hundred thousand plays. We have fans from all over the world, and it's it's been sensational. Man,

I I couldn't be more placed. Listen. I'm happy for you and that you can brag that you started that podcast. You were recording that right across the hall from me doing the show. I remember'd be in there after your shift. You'd be across the hall. And that's the old Casey Caysum studio radio legs Jasey Casum. He recorded his Top forty Countdown show right across from where which is now our podcast. The room you're in, Yeah, the great Casey Caysum. In fact, in that hallway is where I almost killed

Casey Cason. I eventually died, but I almost killed him. Yeah. So it's one of my my favorite FSR stories. So back in the day, I was filling in with Chris Myers. He was doing a midday show and I was pretty

big guy. And during the day, Casey Cason would be in there, the radio legend Hall of Famer recording his Top forty count and this guy was a voiceover actor in Scooby Dooby do right he was I think he was shaggy right anyway, Uh So I I ran to the bathroom as much as I could run, and I finished taking care of business, and I hear that there For some reason, I timed it wrong and they were coming back from the commercial, and so I had to get back in the studio because Christie I was doing

the show with Chris, and so I started trying to run as much as I could, and I ran and I ran down the hall. I make the right turn. Then I go to make the left, and and just at the time I go to make the the you know it was it was the left and then the right, the left and then the right. So I made the left and then the right. And Casey Cayson, a very small man, very petite man at this point, very old man, very frail man, gets he's he happens to be standing

there where and I I'm running. He he looks at me like, oh my god, there's an oncoming train like and I'm heading right towards him. And if I had run him over, I would have probably gone to jail and would have been on TMZ for killing a radio legend. But I used the swim technique, a football technique, and I was able to just barely. I put my arm up, kind of move my body as much as I could, and I just got around Casey Cayson. I did not make the contact, and so I I lived to talk

another day talking to it. But he worked right there. It's awesome that that that's our podcast hub. I had no idea and then where you started. Yeah, the anime podcast. It's so cool to think about. I think, like the best star studded story I have is just running into Steve Harvey in the halls here or it's just he has like his his fifty different people with him, because it's all the radio people, his producers, his talent agency, and they're all fully suited. At like three m and

I walked by and they're like, what's up baby. I'm like, I'm just chilling man doing radio. What's you up to so much? Yeah? I I ran in Steve Harvey in the parking lot one time. He pointed out how nice the mall and will be. Was he yes, he said, that's a good color car. He was talking to one of his security guys. Oh yeah, Steve was great, but he was one of my favorite celebrities and he happened to be Yeah, he doesn't do the show out of

there anymore. I don't know COVID days. Yeah. Yeah, he would be in there a couple of times a week and he was nice. He's wearing like a jumpsuit, you know, relax, chill guy. And besides him, I would say Snoop Dogg. When I was at the box lot, he was leaving the First Things First or whatever the show was before Colin, and so he was leaving. I was walking and he was like, what up, neph feels like just chilling out. How you doing? I'm his nephew. I'm chilling Ben. Here

you go all right? I think we've we've gone. We exceeded the limits here of time space and all that.

But you promoted the podcast anything else You're on Twitter, people want to say, yeah, definitely, Ben on Twitter, I believe it's just Alex underscore TI shirt my name, and especially like Instagram and all that stuff too, it's just a l e X underscore T. I c h e r T. And also, Ben, if you are somebody who needs some motivation or some help or just something to get you through the days or to change your perspective. I also do a life podcast which is called Shallow

Oceans Podcast. So I'm a man of many talents. Ben look at that, and you don't really have the sports gene, but you work at I love. I love that You're not a heard oh sports guy, not at all. I always tell my friends, like when they asked me about the sports rum entertain I always saw, man, I'm just the most talented guy you never heard of. That's what I do. I tell people when they say, hey, what do you think about sports, and said, I don't that's that's work, good talk, good man, I just use excuse

I don't watch Well that's good too. Well some of the hosts could also say that that which is which is a slight problem. But anyway, all right, well, thank you Alex, you're the man, and appreciate it. And to tell a friend, five stars on the podcast, five stars on the podcast, and don't forget on the Saturday podcast. We will be debuting the new sidekick on the fifth hour podcast. So state to who is it going to be? Well, we let the cat out of the bag early, but

you'll find out on Saturday. Until then, have a great rest of your holiday weekend, See you later.