Domestic Affairs

Mallar starts right now. That it does is we are in the air everywhere, the vast power of the I Heart podcast network available as you know by now, because you've you've found the podcast, you've stumbled onto the podcast that is available wherever you get your podcast. Because four hours on the overnight or not and off eight days a week, we do this podcast. This podcast drops on depending on what day is wet Friday, we got a podcast. Uh,

today is a Saturday. So yesterday we had hacks all critically acclaimed interview with Lee Haxall Hamilt's one radio legend from San Diego from bad the Canadian rockies Love Tax thought was great. We appreciate him coming on. But we got one on Sunday as well. So it's eight days a week. We get two on Friday with the radio show and joined again, for better or worse by the man affectionately known in the highways and hallway Highways the hallways of Fox Sports Radio as gag On David gascon Man.

It's uh long time coming. One day has passed, but I did my God's I did God's work for at least one day, Ben Maller, and uh, I will wait for you to eloquently and politely acknowledge what you're gonna be doing over the weekend here the next couple of moments. Oh so you're you You would like that right now as I as you gonna get to that letter. But I can do that now if you want. No. No, But you know what, I was just thinking about this um earlier in the week because I was driving the studio.

I noticed two things. Uh One, there was a ton of traffic, and as I got to the studio, too, there was no sign of of Ben Maller. I'm kind of curious, like everybody else coming back to work won't even get your ass in the studio. Uh well, I am really following the guidelines of management, and they've not asked me to come back. I did go down there

to pick up some mail. If I had to have to go back because Doc Mike sent me a book about piss so I guess I've got to pick that up, which he thinks is he thinks once I read this, I'll be brainwashed and I'll be hornswaggled into like guzzling my urine after this, which I am very confident will not happen. Uh. And there's some other things I need to pick up. So I will go in there. And I have considered, you know, randomly, you know, going in and doing a doing a show. But I have a

set up here. And the thing that I've noticed now because they have the company has me doing these YouTube videos in the home studio, it's set up per quickly to record these things, and it's not set up the same way in the main studio, which you think would be the opposite, but it's not. And I've I'm a pretty good set up here that I've got my routine down. So I know at some point I'm gonna have to figure out how to do do the the setup in

in the hub, but that's part of it. But now I haven't haven't gone in there, and maybe i'll maybe I'll go in at some point and surprise you. I'll pop in and say, hey, look here I am. Do you miss me? Do you miss coming into the studio? You know I do. But I'm at the problem. I'm getting used to this now. It's been two months of doing the show from the home studio, so I'm kind of used to that now. But I like the energy.

I've always got into radio. One of the reasons I got a radio is because I loved walking into the radio station. Remember the first time I walked into the Mighty six ninety in San Diego and I was like, this is awesome. The vibe, the energy. Of course, there's none of that right now at radio stations because because of what's going on. But I'd really like to get back in that. You feel like, you know, special when you walk in there. You feel like this is a

big job. You know when you walk into a race station. When you walk into your home studio, you don't feel that big, you don't feel that important. And in a plus, it's cool. I mean we we worked Steve Harvey, a legend entertainment. His studio is right across the hall from us. There's so many great stars that work at Premiere in radio in our profession that it's you feel like this is big. You know, this is cool where we with all these legends and then now we're all we're all

a part more than ever. Yeah, there's something really empowering about getting off the four oh five freeway. I know. I know now that Claire. Now our studios if you ever come to l A when things open up and we invite studios people into the studio and stuff, the studios are right where the four oh five and the one on one merge. And I'm happy to report that I take the one oh one. I do not get

on the four oh five. The only reason I were to get on the four oh five is if the offer amp right there at the Ventura is shut down for some reason or sup Paul, and I'll I'll then have to jump on the four or five. But that's it. I don't don't go on the four or five. That's a point of demarcation. I do not cross the four oh five. Don't do it. Don't cross it. Yeah, you don't even cross it when you go get Tito's Tacos.

That's true. I saw that Tito's is opening up on June one, but only only four delivery and only local deliveries. So that means we were trying to figure out. I was talking to the wife about this. I was like, how are we gonna get my my tetoes fixed? Because I don't have an address right near ttos. So I was thinking, either maybe I'll deliver the car, you know, I could sit in there, you know, parking lot somewhere. Or my father in law has a business in downtown

Los Angeles. He's he runs a like a a storage warehouse thing in in l A. So I could go maybe at his place and then have him deliver there, which I think is close enough that it might work. So I have spent some time thinking about I wonder if they take telephone call is because Chick fil A, which is down the street from US and and Sino

was doing that. They have the Chick fil A app, So they'll only serve you if you're either driving through the drive through or you order through your app, and then you can pick it up either the parking lot or you can pick it up at the at the door, like they'll have a door where you have a couple of vendors that come in and out servers. Yeah, yeah, I I went last week, uh, and to to make sure my dad was still alive. I don't I don't want to get in trouble guests come. But I did

visit my father. I'm a bad person. I did. I visited my old man and so I picked up some we picked up some food to to bring to him, you know, some meal and obviously, and we went to a restaurant that we like. And you can't just walk up in order at that place, you had they had slass. You had to park your car and you had order

on the phone. So even though I was right there talking to the person, you know, we were talking about it, they had now you gotta go, you gotta do it on the app or whatever, and that that whole thing. They didn't have a drive through. Now, So what's uh, what's on the menu today? All right? So this is a mildly marginally entertaining show. We're in the in the middle part of this show, we're gonna get to another doctor. We're gonna call him Dr G. And this is a

fan of the show. This is a fan of the podcast on the radio show who reached out to me to come on this podcast. He had some things he wanted to say. He was upset with the the narrative about the coronavirus in the way that it's being described in many of the mainstream media outfits. And he felt like he's on the front lines. They're working at a hospital on the East Coast, and he wanted his story told.

And I was a little skeptical at first because I was I don't really know, but he We had him confirmed. We did our due diligence to make sure he was legit, because I, you know, anybody can email me from any you know where, and but this guy is a legit guy. He sent us I mean everything possibly you could imagine to verify who he was is and uh and he did that and so so that's that's how this all kind of began. And we'll have him on talking about his story and whatnot. But before we get to that,

we've got the flint Stones meets the Jetsons. Instead of set it and forget it, just forget it, we've got that, but we begin with what's in the box? What's in the box? So you know, I I'm pretty much hermit. I go I leave my house for like an hour a day here, Uh, I go for a walk. Sometimes it's an hour and a half. I went on a two hour walk the other day. I got I couldn't. I'm in a sleeping very well it was, which sucks.

And so as I get up, is I gotta get some sun, get out, get a little daylight, you know, see the world, walk around. I can't go to the gym anymore. That's over. So I went out walking around. But uh so then, you know, I don't usually check the mail, even you know who's gonna send email. So they get this message, Hey, go check your portion from from from gag on. So I go out there and there's this big box you know what, I'm thinking, Oh boy, And it's got some kind of like like a health

label on it. You know, I see like like a buzzword there, like you know, I think I saw organic on that or something like that. So I'm like, what the what the perishable perishable perishable is not organic? But I saw there's a big word on the box, big block box. I liked, did guests gott have Doc Mike send me goat head or something like that? And so then I this massive box. I take it through the front door of the Mallard mansion. I put it there on the kitchen counter. I then have to run back.

I grabbed some scissors to kind of cut open the boxes. It does say perishable on it. I opened the box and it says here there's a message right on top. It says to Ben Maller from West of the four oh five. Never in my whole life have I ever been more afraid to see the end results of this endeavor. God help us all. And there is a what looks like a beautiful piece of meat here. It's American wagu Tomahawks steak ball in. And I assume you want me to do like a cooking video guest on, Is that

what you would like me to do here? Just you know, I was thinking of that, asking maybe Fats to come on to guide you through this, but he's currently probably lighting himself on fire again. But to give you the skinny on this thing, it's it's forty ounces two and

a half pounds or two pounds. Excuse me, um, and yeah, I a buddy of two friends of mine, Um Colin, who you you've got a chance to meet a couple of weeks ago, Uh Colin, And my other buddy Patrick, who who's on the front lines as well, working in um l a city fire department. Um, we actually went to the Langham Hotel like a year or two ago

just to go out and have some dinner. And they have a restaurant in the steakhouse called the Royce and I've never had a tom hank before, and so a friend of ours actually worked there and she's like, you gotta get it. So they brought out this giant dish and that's all we d me. Colin and Patrick. We ordered the Tomahawk, which was a little pricey, but I kid you not, with forty ounces, I could ate that whole damn thing myself. It was so good. But we

absolutely demolished that thing. And I figured this would be a perfect present for the guy that celebrated his birthday that absolutely threw me against the cross and stoned me to death and said I didn't reach out to for birthday. So given that, given that the shortage and meat, Ben, this was actually ordered before your birthday. Was my thirty birthday,

just turned thirty. But to be completely transparented, you know, it took a while to get to you, just obviously with the shortage, and uh, well, thank you, it's very kind of you, and I see the uh it's got a little pamplet that this thing came with on how to properly cook the steak. But I noticed there it says your preference. It's got listed here rare medium, rare medium medium. Well, I do not see well, do not see well listed here? And it's got it's it's it's

somewhat annoying here that they don't have that. They're like our people are being shunned. You know. The President Donald Trump loves his food well done, much like myself. So but I do not see that. But I guess I'll have to do it medium. Well. Then, yes, I guess I'll have to get a little pink in the middle there and take the medium. Well, I think you're gonna have phone with it. I appreciate the very kind of

you to do that. And this is perfect for when you because typically say, when you break your fast, you go all out that day or that night. YEA, yeah, I go big, I go big. I got I this week I had let me go to the phone here, Hold on a second, let check this out. I want to do some fast. I'll be like you bragging about my fast fast. No, that was only when my gallbladder

got taken out. That I had my record fast, the longest fast ever ninety point one hours because I had I had not eaten for forty eight hours, and then I went to the hospital and they wouldn't let me eat for another another couple of days. Uh, let's see the other day this week, I went sixty four hours at a sixty four hour fast, and I also had a about a fifty hour fast, so I had. Yeah,

so I pretty much ate. I think I I ate on Saturday, I eat a bunch of food on Saturday, didn't eat on Sunday, didn't need on Monday, eight on Tuesday, and then didn't need on Wednesday, and then eight late on Thursday, and then you know, picked up you know for the weekends Friday, Saturday and Sunday, I just eat

like you know, a couple of times or whatever. So well, you know this from back in the day when you were you were running around the world, will travel with the Dodgers that they have this thing that everyone calls is the slut buster. Um, this will definitely be your fasting buster. Like I recommend that when you finished a long fast on a Friday or Saturday, this is on the menu. It's front and center and and you know, I will, I will put that to use there. But

this more of a weekend item. You know, I got it because because I can't doing the week I got a lot of crap going on, and we all do it, but on the weekend, I can just focus on the meat. Focus on the meat. Now. That leads me to one thing I gotta push back on you on regarding your

your regular show Monday through Friday. I thought you had a golden opportunity to capitalize on something from from Sunday night, and I was a little shot that you didn't um the flu game or the pizza game, the food poisoning game. I thought that was gonna be a perfect opportunity for you to jump along the same linear lines as Michael Jordan's because not only did he play in game six in a closeout game for the Chicago Bulls, but you actually hosted a show after burning your mouth eating pizza.

No no, no, I see that's your see you miss getting here. I guess that is not the most impressive feat of broadcasting with some kind of ailment. Yeah, you shoot your pants and then hosted a show. I get no, no no, no no. Before that, I had gold stones the most painful thing. You think you're having a heart attack, and I can the show continued. I kept doing the show with gold Stones series. I had goll Stones going on. Yeah,

that was that was brutal. But anyway, we ever get to it because we got a lot to be a lot very long podcast. So the flint Stones meet the Jetsons. That is an outdated reference, but you know it sometimes in television. Typically in television they have crossovers. You know,

it's like where characters of different shows get together. It's kind of obvious, Like, you know, I grew up watching the flint Stones and the Jetsons all these old cartoons, and they had an episode where there's like some kind of time machine and Fred flint Stone and the Jetsons got together and all that. So I bring this up because I got a phone call from management the other day and then you know, ring ring, I'm like, anytime I see management, I'm like, gosh, ship, what did I do?

You know? What did I say? I'm like going through my head. Did I say something? Did something get on the other shouldn't have gotten the air? Did they finally hear O, Mike, you know what's going on? And so Anyway, management calls me up and they're like, hey, we've got a proposal, and I was like, okay, I'm listening. Uh. They said, we want to do a crossover show. I said okay, uh, and so I I agree to it.

I'm actually excited about this. And so this coming Thursday, I in Thursday and the Friday, the Friday show on the Overnight. I will not be in the Overnight the normal seat here, which I'm reluctant to leave that position, but I will not be on that show Friday of this week. So no lame jokes, don't send any jokes for this upcoming week because it won't be on the air. But I will be sitting in the number two chair

next to Rob Parker on the Odd Couple. I'll be filling in for Chris Brussard who's got some time off here, and I will be a shamuzing with my friend Rob Parker. And I think you're actually gonna be working on that show, guest. So that's yes. How about that three hours of amazing content prime time Mallard from seven to ten on the East coast, that's Afternoon Drive on the West coast four to seven, and that's Uh, that's pretty good. I love Rob. You know, we we've had meals with Rob. I think

Rob's great. I love that he's he's a ship ster and he's got strong opinions, and he rocks the boat and he's good, he's entertaining. So I'm excited to go into the really the radio octagon with Rob Parker. We're gonna have fun with that. That is, so that's gonna

be may correct, Yes, that is may Now. I know part of the reason why you're not apprehensive about doing this is because you're already used to k l a c a M. Five seventy here in Los Angeles covering your show up, so this will be no different for you during the prime hours here in Los Angeles is being covered up? Uh yeah. Well. One one thing that we point out here that does have I get covered up reruns of baseball games, which is really a kick in the nuts. But I understand, and they sold it.

They have advertising whatever. Good for them. I don't really care. And I used to get really upset about being covered up and I rant and rave and I remember one time years ago when Fox Sports Radio was in his early days, and I found out that the they were replaying Olympic events overnight, and I was getting covered up by like, you know, lose or something like that. But did you say women's ice hockey, Well that was yeah,

I was even before that. Yeah, I got preempted by women's Olympic trial hockey, which was really a just a dagger to the to the gut. But but I learned at some point, you know, you do the show and if people love the show, they'll find the show, like the fans of the show will find it. You can't really worry about that. And the great thing now more than ever, like back in those days there was no podcasting, didn't really exist. You either listen to the show live

or that was it. But now like if you miss it, you can there's like seven thousand different ways you can hear the show. You can satellite radio and if you're driving a truck, get satellite radio. Can hear the show. UM almost always cleared on on Sirious x M channel eighty three, and you've got I Heart Radio. The streaming services.

There's some other streaming services. We're not supposed to say that our shows on that you can also listen to, uh, and then we've got the I Heart app with podcasting and all this, it's like a zillion ways you can hear the show, so I don't really rebut it it's nice. And it's limited though, because I mean, we're doing this for a limited time before we go follow Jill Rogan of Spotify, right, yes, yes, yes, I'm right now. It doesn't have to Spotify anyone that has a hundred million

dollar check. I am in. I don't care if you have no listeners. I could be talking into a garden hose. I don't care. I will yell into that garden hose loud and proud. Chi ching, Chi ching. I'm telling you right now, my dream is to be a sellout. I want people to call me a sellout. I want people to say, you're just some rich guy. I want that, you know. I did a monologue this week about the owners, and everyone's like shaming the owners in baseball, taking the

side of the players. I think because people look down upon the rich, even though everyone's rich, it's just that the owners are more wealthy. They're super rich, they're aristocrat rich and all that. But my I don't I don't feel that. I don't. I don't just look down upon people because they have a lot of money. Nor do I look down upon people because they have no money, you know, so, but a lot of people do that. But I would like to be one of those people

that has ridiculous few money. Uh, And that is the goal. But I'm looking forward to working with Rob. That'll be fun. It's a standalone, one time thing. Uh. They you know, there's a chance to do more than that. But I want to do the Overnight show and I didn't want to. I want to miss that, but I am gonna miss it one day this coming week. But you can still hear me and you just and we're still doing the podcast and all that, so it'll still be on. So

you get plenty of plenty of this nonsense. Now, that'll be beautiful. So you'll be working with Rob Parker, myself and also Wrong Button, Bob and the Vegan. That's like the dream team, right, you're gonna have You're gonna have five people that are fully attentive at one time during the show. How does that make you feel? That is a low blow because you're no, because you're usually correct me if I'm wrong, But you have no editors during your show. You have no interns and then limited staff. Yeah,

we we have nothing. We we have nothing, um, alright, So moving on from that, and and so again that's Thursday, this coming Thursday. Here the was it may may you can although on the schedule it's his February twenty. I don't know if the SAD the schedule out for the company it says February twenty eight. Maybe I can have a time machine and go back and do it on February twenty eight, um, which we could go out without masks on February and we could you know, go to

restaurants and sit down and eat like human beings. It's amazing thing anyway. So uh, instead of set it and forget it, just forget it now. A couple of weeks ago we said we we thought we had a guest. It didn't work out well. One of the people that was in the running to be that guest. I have been negotiating and I'll i'll let you in behind the curtain here. And so we're trying to figure out who do we want to put on the podcast. You know,

this is designed for for interviews and whatnot. And in fact, we've got coming up in a minutes we'll hear from Dr G who's uh working in the hospital on the East coast, and he wanted to tell his story, so we'll get to him coming up in a comus. But I wanted to talk to some people that are like I'm big fans of you know, and and one of those people I grew up stand up late at night watching infommercials. And the legend of infomercials is this guy

named Ron Pope Peel from the showtime Rotisserie Chicken. I believe is the I think that was the item there, but he had the line said it and forget it, one of the great lines ever said. And so I am Facebook friends friends with Ron Pope Peel, and so I reached out to him, and then he directed me towards his publicist. So, believe it or not, I still got a publicist. He's not actively working anymore. He's an

older gentleman. And I reached out to the publicist's very nice woman for Ron Popeel, and we've been going back and forth in email for the last couple of weeks. And she she originally when I first contacted her, was very excited. She said that Ron would be perfect, but she had to check with Ron and all this stuff. And so anyway, we went back and forth, and much to my dismay, here we have been rejected by Ron Pope Peel. He has decided not to do it, and

I'm trying to figure out why. And I'm not sure. Maybe it's because of Lenny Dikester. I don't know. Because they asked for a list of the people that we've had on because I guess, you know, we don't have big enough names or the wrong names, then these certain people won't come on. But it's disappointing. I'm still a Ron Pope Peel fan, not as big a fan, not

as big a fan as I was. I'm not gonna lie to you, but it would have It would have been fun because he's had an interesting, interesting career and all that. But he is decided to pass, which is his right there, and um, we will get other people. Who's his rival? Maybe we should know what I should do is we should try to get his who's the other big guy the infomercial game that's not like Billy Mays is dead, so we can't get him on. That's the guy that you compared me to? You right, yeah,

you look like Billy Mays. How about the sham Wow guy. Is he still around? The sham Wow guy? Get him on? Or the my pillow guy that we should try to get to my pillow guy on as like an f you to Ron Popio. We could put my pillow guy. But do you think some people do you think your audience would be offended? Like because he's a Bible thumper? Do you think like Ron? Yeah? Or the pillow Yeah. Mostly just there's certain people that run around looking for

things to be offended. So those people will be offended. The people that are running around the always offended crowd. Yeah, I'm offensive. That is offensive to me. How dare you calm down, snowflake? Let's get to this doctor. What do you say here? All right? So just give you the backstory again if you missed the beginning here, I don't

know how you missed the beginning. But I got an email about a week ago from a fan of the show who works at a hospital on the East Coast, and he did not want to use his name, but he felt it was important. He wanted to tell his story about the coronavirus and what he's experienced, and he was upset with some of the media coverage and the way this thing is being portrayed in the media. And so, uh, let's welcome in. We're gonna call him Dr G. And we welcome him him into the Fifth Hour with Ben

Maller and David Gascon. So the first question we'll start with this, Dr G. Why did you contact me? Yeah, you know, I'm just I'm frustrated with um the way that all the scientistic information about the coronavirus is being presented. We have, you know, just a vast amount of information. None of it's very good because none of it's really been pure review and they're all small, little studies. But

unfortunately only the negative side is being displayed. And you know, your famous mind is when the legend becomes the fact to go with the legend. And it's frustrating because no positive information is really being display to the public. Yeah, and so you're working there, you're in the hospital, and what has it been like the last couple of months, because you see, I know, the first month you saw

the news stories. You're on the East coast, but the news stories were like everything is being gonna be overwhelmed and all that, And what is your experience, your personal experience been like, you know, so I'm coming from the surgical side, not necessarily the medicine boards, but we had to completely shut everything down. We were very worried that we were going to run out of personal protective equipment. A lot of it comes from overseas, and so that

was a big issue. And also we wanted to be able to funnel it towards the medicine side and save in the case they call on us because we take care of a lot of these patients on the respirator um. I think the biggest frustrating thing is I had a lot of patients who have come in and although their surgeries aren't considered emergency surgeries, you're like your gallbladder um. There's conditions that they can't function unless they get surgery,

and they can't go to work. So not only is the coronavirus people off, now I have more and more people who would be delayed too. For six weeks to go back to work after a surgery, you have now been delayed, you know, two or three months, not taking

a big hit. Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and The I heart radio app Yeah, and just to follow that up, I mean you mentioned the science and we've talked about it on this podcast a bit, because you are right, it seems like anything that is positive. You think, normally in a situation like this where it seems pretty bad at the beginning, when things change, people would get excited. But

people make their mind up in that. But but you're in the medical industry, so what are you what are the people around you when you guys, when you're talking behind closed doors there without giving any names to violate hippo loss, but like, what what is the what is the conversation like? And how does this relate? You know, you've been been around for a few years, so how many How does this relate to some of the other things that you've experience or the other doctors have experienced.

So you know, between you, me and the fence post, I think it's everybody listening. A lot of us think that this is absolutely like we're living in the twilight zone. We don't understand. You know, it's good to be cautious. This is not something to just blow off and make a joke about. I mean, people are dying, and their mothers and sisters and brothers and fathers. Um. But just the vast or the rash steps that we've taken to

prevent this. We're all looking around each other and sitting in the lounge or were on the wars and talking and being like, this is not nearly as bad as it's been predicted. Why are we not changing things and

getting more focused towards back to health. Thymus were um and you know, I mean this kind of the same thing happened in two thousand nine, and speaking with a lot of the folks that were around then, obviously it was a more familiar virus um than what's now and it was discovered in the United States, so I think that gave us a little more sense of security. But you know, Dr Fauci was on the news saying to say things, don't touch your face, don't touch your mouth, um.

But nobody was required number of masks. We didn't perform social distancing. Some students got led out of school, but it wasn't nearly at this And so you know, even these top minds, you sit around and talk with them. And I talked with people from other cities, other hospitals, different regions. People are a little bit perplexed as to

why these decisions are being made. Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two a m. Eastern eleven p m Pacific dr G. Before we brought you on on the podcast, but and I had talked about a couple of different things. But one of them he had mentioned was that you did not want to use your name and where you're working at for specific reasons. Um, what are those reasons? And why do you feel like you can't come out specifically to

acknowledge like where you're at and what you're doing. You know, it's really for fear minute the backlash. Um, it's there's so much of it. You look at anybody who talks about this positively and they're pretty much off precise. Um, and the things that we're talking about, And I'm going to say that about my opinions, these are this is

just published at a period view data. And even if you try to have a civil conversation with someone about this, if they are not in the know, Um, they look at you as if you have some type of agenda. And I hate I don't want to talk about politics.

I don't really prescribe to either side, But a lot of this is being played as that, as that either the left or the right, and there's some type of political agenda, and I just don't want to deal with that kind of backlash because I'm not here to uh, you know, advocate for any side of here to maybe give people a little bit of hope that things are going to get better and they're not going to be

as bad as they've been predicted. Yeah, Like taking a line from Dragnet's like the names have been changed to protect the innocent, and you're in that position. Um, while you've been working or even away from from the hospital. Um, has anyone that you either know directly or indirectly come across individuals that will work for FEMA? Um? I do you have a friend who's worked for people to four? Um?

He was big with Hurricane Katrina. Basically he does inspections of damns and housing sites, flooding fights, things like that. But no one working with this specifically. Okay. The reason why I was asking is because Ben and I have gone back and forth on this because we're here in California. Uh, California, New York, Texas, Arizona, and Florida are a big among the biggest names in the cross the United States with how their numbers have been cases versus deaths, deaths versus cases,

and also elderly versus the young. But people have made this statement that states like Florida are manipulating their numbers for the sheer reason of bringing down their cases. Do you find or do you feel that any of that information is actually accurate at all? Or do you feel that what Governor of Santis has been publicizing and obviously displaying is accurate to your best to your knowledge, you know, I think the issue with all of these numbers is

that we're looking at a very limited set of data. UM. The biggest thing with this is, depending on who you read, the people that have this never know they're going to have it, are entirely a symptomatic and a bunch of us have been exposed and we're all younger individuals, UM, and we mean direct contact with people we didn't know they had it. We've operated on some people didn't know

they had it. We've never had any symptoms. So you look at the numbers that are reported, and if what these studies are saying is accurate, you need to at least double the number of confirmed cases, if not multiply it by five times. And so now that makes your denominator huge in terms of looking at the infection fatality rate UM and it drops it down, you know, two to five times what it is. And if you want to bring an antibody testing into the conversation, it goes

down even more. I mean they investing maybe fifty times more people have already had this, So it's really hard to say which numbers are accurate, which numbers are inaccurate. At this time. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com and within the I

Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live. Yeah, it's it's interesting, dr G. Because I have some friends that are in the medical industry and they've told me that they they think this has been in America since like maybe December, possibly before that, with people traveling from

China and the things spreading around. So this shutdown didn't start till March, so you're i mean, the timeline on this, it's kind of mind boggling when you think about the amount of people that came out of Wuhan, China, where they think this started and to America, to two hub cities in America, and then those people went out and this is as contagious as everyone thinks it is, but not as deadly as everyone you know now thinks it is.

It's really crazy. I think this this probably went around December, January, February three months unchecked, and then in the United States, and then in March they decided that we better, we better roll this out. It's it's kind of I mean, the numbers are are what have you been tested through the antibodies or any of that stuff, or have you had the coronavirus. We have not been testing. Only way we're getting tested is if we become a symptomatic UM

excuse me, symptomatic pardon me. I have been exposed to multiple individuals UM. And you know, essentially they didn't have a stop coming to work. It was just you go and you wear your N ninety five the entire time that you were there, and if you start to develop any symptoms UM that they would test you because they were trying to keep the kids. Essentially, for those who

were symptomatic UM. The biggest reason is because the kids aren't very good and so you have to use multiple testing kits on folks to actually ensure that they have the coronavirus. And then you know, those are the folks that you treate outs you a hiring unit of care, so they're not just testing us, UM testing us widely. And to talk to your point, you look at the number of flights that come into l a X from

UM Asia, especially China every day. I mean you're talking about thirty fifty thousand flights UM in that time span string in November through Christmas where this thing was just going unchecked. Dr G. Two other questions that I need to do in terms of follow up with this based on what you're doing your activity level instead the hospital. One is what is the morale like? And then too what are your schedule has been? Like are you working

twelves or you working eight teens? Are you're working twenty four? Is? Like, how has that been structured? And do you feel like there's a lot more strain built on the hospitals now that you're at UM as opposed to the pandemic actually opening up? So I think morale UM is a little down just because we've been UM you know, sort of clamped down by the system just to try to ensure that everyone's safe. Um, we're also when things are opening up for us here, we're starting to get back to

our normal daily lives. But people have very highly active people, especially in surgical fields, and when you're sitting around you're unable to do things, you're not able to act. That definitely weighs on you. In terms of hours, you know, we work alone anyone and we're usually there from trove the fourteen hours a day regardless, So it really hasn't

changed it for us. I think probably on the side of the medicine folks, UM there there maybe a little bit longer in terms of days in a row now because they're trying to separate people or you keep half the staff out for as many as you can for a week at a time, so that if people do become symptomatic and test positive, if they have to go out for two weeks, then you can bring in folks in their stead. So I think they've been doing some longer shifts in terms of the number of days now.

Correct me if I'm wrong, because I do have friends that work out here in Los Angeles at CECH Medical for usc U c L A Providence hospital as well. And they actually have to go through procedures they have to go through to training to get and to wear a ppe mass um to take out any kind of of medicine. And that doesn't even include UM any Z packs.

Has that been the case for you guys back east to No matter what field of the hospital that you're in, whether you're a doctor, nurse, pharmacy, whatever it may be, you have to go through extra protocol to get these devices. Oh yeah, it's uh, it's really can it's really gone

through the riff of the stuff. Is you know who thought having needs to be worth gold actually found a box in my house from what I had been painting, uh, and it was a great pay So yeah, I mean we've gone through dawning and daffing all of the ppe um.

The American College of Surgeons has gone through a very rigorous or creative regular set of guidelines for especially innovating patients, exhibiting patients changing out trade theostom is anything that has to do with the airway because this has transmitted through droptalizations UM. And so now we're requiring before we can

go into the operating room. It's only the anenthesiologists and the certified nursing assistants who are in the room within the fives on and protect you here innovating the patients, um, and we treat them all if they have this version of the coronavirus, and then we're allowed in. And when the patients are exhibited after procedure, we have to exit, and then the whole room has to be completely turned over and sterilized. And we're only using specific rooms and

specific equipment for patients. Okay, So when you take the when you take the Batman suit off, and you're outside as a normal civilian, are you exercising, are you out and about regularly? And also are you wearing any kind of mask when you're outside the hospital. So I am doing my best to respect the wishes of the general public in terms of that, I have been keeping my social distance. I try to do things tradiciously when we're

opening up here now. But before this happened, um, you know, I want to people have a lot of information they received and I'm not going out of my way to say, hey, I know better than you, I know more than you. I'm not going to follow the steps. Masks here were never a huge thing, um, you know, and unfortunately, there's a lot of misinformation about the masks which give people, UM kind of a false sense of security. UM. You know.

University of Minnesota actually in April when this suggestion came out, their Center for Infectious Disease and Research, I mean, they came out with a summary about the use of masks, UM, you know, and to to give you a quote, UM basically Master, Well, before we get into this, masks are not very effective. Cloth masks the particle sizes which you're trying to protect from getting into your lungs, the coronavirus UM. Cloth masks stop maybe two to three pent of those

particles from going in. Even surgical masks aren't great about is the best UM And there's been no studies that have ever shown that wearing masks is actually decreased UM the transmission of upper recipy infections, but not with any

statistical significance. There is some correlation, so, I mean, you know, the call and they said, leaving aside the fact that master ineffective, telling the public to wear cloth or surgical masks could be interpreted by some to me and that people are safe to stop isolating at home and or stop you know, we're safe to stop using social distancing. And so I actually I think that that recommendation may have been inappropriate, um, because you know, you see a

lot of people aft with their masks on. They're touching them all the time, touching their face, touching their cell phone. Yeah. Think it's a false sense of security. Yeah. And just to kind of wrap this up, Dr G, I'm so, I'm glad you reached out your fan and I appreciate that, and I appreciate what you guys are doing there at the hospital. But anything that we've missed here that you wanted to pass on to the person listening here that you think is important that we have completely screwed up

and not gotten to. I don't think you guys to screw up anything, and I appreciate you having me on um. It was nice to you to make some time for me. Um. I think the best thing for the individual to do and for the for their families is do whatever you needs is best. If you want to continue social isolating, if you think that wearing a mask is important, if you think that not all the public events is important, it's best for you and your family. You know, each

individual is different. Obviously, this thing affects people differently based on their predisposed conditions, based on their age, and definitely follow whatever your local and federal government is telling you to do. But I think in the grand scheme of things, this the extremes that we've got to in order to prevent the transmission of something that moreb and likely has already been spread throughout a majority or at least the large percentage of the public, and something that for the

most part, most people will be just fine. And Okay, I think that when things open up and when you're allowed to go back treat life is normally thin. And don't be afraid to hello to someone. You don't need to wear a mask. It's okay to pick up somebody's law, and if they drop and hand it to them, you know, I don't let this thing change the way you live for the rest of your life, because we're gonna look back on this in five or ten years and say, hey,

it wasn't that bad. Dr g. One lighter remark that I need to make to you two is we appreciate you obviously reaching out, but uh, I know that you confided in me before we passed you law to ben that you're actually more of a fan of the Fifth Hour as opposed to Ben's overnight show. Yea, and I know that. Come on, you know, I really I missed David's voice on you know, the regular show. I mean, I'm a podcast listener and just you know you keeping them on only on the weekend. This is what he

parks crooking every time. He just wants to make you notice more. Wow. I mean that is did you what the hell is going on? Let's work back east. I gotta give a cross fishing fishing. I appreciate a guy. One other thing of the public, don't drink your yurn whatever you do. I want you to do that, not recommend you see that's from the radio show that you're in drinking from the radio show. All right, listen, be safe out there. Dr G. Thank you man, and thanks

for listening over the years. Here we'll talk to you again sometime. Thanks you, guys. I appreciate it. Had a great one. Be safe.