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right now. Back at it on a Saturday in the a everywhere, the vast and powerful I Heart Podcast Network. We thank you for being loyal and supporting the podcast. It does does mean a lot. Otherwise we wouldn't keep doing it every day on the weekends and this the Saturday podcast. Were gonna think Rob Parker, the Great Rob Parker who hung out with on Friday, regaling us with stories from his career, The Great Rob Parker, always trying
fun to catch up with Rob. It's amazingly this is the first time we've had we've been doing the podcast for over a year, the first time we've had Rob on said podcast. And now to ruin your day, making his way from West of the four oh five after almost a month hiatus, maybe people thought he got fired. It's gonna be here is a great get by me.
Usually on the one book in the good Guests, you get the shitty guests like Tom Looney and uh some other crackheads of the world that you get on I do find it rather humorous that we were getting or I don't know if you were getting, but I was getting some emails and direct messages saying, you guys need to do something on Thanksgiving week and Thanksgiving weekend because we dad and sing the day away for you folk that are consuming free content. But anyways, I'm back here
to say wow, wow, Yeah. I want to point out now now full disclosure, you know, I'm the one with ambition on the show. As you know I'm I'm the one that works hard. I'm the one that wants to make this work. And so in order though for the podcast, guest Ghan has to do the technical stuff, which is why it just sounds so shitty every week, so crapy
guest Ghan has to do it. So but but but I've got fired in my belly, right, you know, I'm hungry, like well, if I want to go out there, and I want to do the podcast every day because I have determination. So but to do the podcast, I need someone to record the podcast and do the technical stuff and all that stuff. So anyway, I remember we had a text conversation, Hey, you want to do the podcast.
It's Thanksgiving week. Why don't we have to do it earlier in the week Because Thanksgiving you normally record the podcast on Thursdays, so we would have had to have done it like on Tuesday or Wednesday eight to get the podcast in and guesstcan you wanted no part and that you wanted no part in hard work? You you just you west of the four oh five took over there, and I was I was raised, You've got to outwork the horse. Yeah, you were raised. You've got to laid
down next to the course. I was always taught that you you get what you put into it, and I put in a lot and get little in return. So I figured, like, you know what holiday week is here, I'm not getting much in return. I'm gonna take a week off because unlike you, I didn't feel like driving into the studio to record a couple of podcasts that
I'll get no appreciation. Thanks for so you know what, I checked out for a couple of weeks and I feel like and you mentioned that, so it's not just you don't have the hustle, you don't have the eagerness to do that. Well, no, I'm just not I'm not an intern anymore. I grew up and you know, when I graduated college, I was twenty three and uh, you know those days of internships where are far behind me.
And I liked to, you know, seek out a professional life for you actually get paid for what you do and you get to see your efforts, uh returned in kind with you know, commerce with the with a little bit of greens and a little bit of a pat on the back and uh, you know, monetization for what we do. And yeah, so you're just admitting your whore that you don't have any pride in you were. You know, it was the great John Wooden that said make everything
your masterpiece. It was Benjamin Franklin said, by failing to prepare, you were preparing to fail. Uh, those are all things, and you don't prepare. You don't take this seriously at all. I think you take almost a month off from a podcast. I mean that's about I'm trying to teach you. I mean, you like the dumb kid in the back of the class. I'm trying to teach you how to told nothing exist.
Foh yeah, nothing says uh. Nothing says like that, like name calling and sniping at at other individuals, blaming it all. I mean, see, I'm like you, I have to drive into work. I know you have the happy confines of the Mallory man Chin where you can just roll out of bed and pop on a couple of devices and
here you are. And uh, I understand though, I mean it's it's it's a little uncomfortable for you to need me as the uh, as someone to lean on to have this kind of masterpiece uh breached out and published out to the masses. So I know it's a little uncomfortable for you to understand that, but to acknowledge it. But you know, I'd like to have a talk with your father because clearly he did not teach you as a child that there is this thing called constructive criticism
and tough love. You know, I'll be doctor truth in your life. I'll be the guy that has to kick you in the tookis from time to time, which is not a bad thing, by the way, term pain for long term gain. Unfortunately, you haven't taken the lesson, so
I have to continue to kick you in the tookis. Unfortunately, I don't think there's a lesson that needs to be taught here in the digital world with you, and I consider the fact that I was the one that uh actually ignited the flame and your soul to actually start doing podcasts. It's bad, Betty, to the YouTube universe. I have done it all for you. You yeah, oh yeah,
you're so just so kind. We have ten people watching the YouTube videos, and even if we get it on the air, even if we get it on the air, there were more people there, Betty, versus a penny. We did it here than than that. And you didn't even show up to one of them to an hour later, you showed up, bat job by you. It's a little bit different. Did you at least have a good Thanksgiving? Man? It was fine, fine, we no. I when I went to my in laws and then I saw my dad
after so I violated every King Knewsome rule possible. But your dad ages really well, yeah, he's doing all right, what he's doing all right? He looks incredibly young. For his age. Yeah, he's doing good. That's good. He's got Mallard blood. What do you want? No, I mean, if you make it to a certain point, see most of the Mallards check out earlier. But if you make it to a certain point, you're golden. You know, those live forever, ever and ever and ever. And he said he's stilling. Well,
so hopefully. Now I concerned about my pops because he's a Ham radio operator and he was having problems connecting on the Ham radio and so he's determined that he needed to replace a cable. But to do that, he has to go on the roof of the original O. G. Mallor Mansion, which is a two story house in Orange County.
So he has to go up there, crawl out of a front window, crawl around to the right, and then make another turn up to the very top where the chimney is, and then put a cable in right next to the antenna, which is on the edge of the side of the house. So I told him this is probably not a good idea. Why don't I come down there and I can kind of at least be there, and you know, I'll do it. You know, he always says maybe I'll listen to you. But then yeah, so
I'm look concerned about that. You know, you're your older dad's crawling around on the roof to put a ham radio and tender together. It does not seem like the uh, the smartest thing. But he doesn't listen to me. So you know, my my older brother he listens to He doesn't listen to me in one year and out the other kind of like you. You know you don't listen to anybody. I'll tell you something all of a sudden,
you don't do it. And then your wife five months later says, go get a green screen to look better. What does Ben maland he buys a fucking green skul unbelievable? Stop you are you are so full of I will hurd. I will admit though your your hat collection is looking nice and ripe. Though it's good, well speaking that I did want to think. You know, do you have that letter we promised? Now you're probably lost it because you're not you don't have to know how to how to
keep track of stuff. But there's a certain power couple in Kentucky that came through big time, right big time, And uh, I was gonna read the letter on the air. Now you have do you have the letter, guest, because I have something. I have some beautiful candles here that birthday candles from what a little two year old girl? Right? This is her idea? Yeah, it was Kentucky Tay and Kentucky k right. I don't have the litter in front of me. I have the picture, my guest, I had
the picture of what they sent me. You are so bad, bad bad, Oh my god. I was. I was gonna show the letter on Benny versus the penny, which I thought would be appropriate concerned the fact that they got me some Kentucky Berman whiskey. Well, you know, there's a book, and I might recommend it. Of course it's probably too late for you. How to Win Friends, all right, How to Win Friends and Influence People was written by Dale Carnegie. He's dead, so you probably don't pay attention to it.
But what was the main lesson from the Dale to three cs? The three cs? Don't complain, don't criticize, And I think I forget what the other one was. Yeah, don't complain, don't criticize. I forget the other one. All right, there's something else that was book. There's something else in that book that Dale Carnegie, which is a great book in any young person, you know, when you're starting out in the world. It's a very important book, and I believe in it. I don't really follow most of it,
but this is one thing I do follow. This is one lesson I got from Dale Carnegie. Oh, don't condemn. Don't condemn. That's not no, no, no, no no. That's acknowledge people by their name. People love to hear the name exactly. Remember a person's name to that person is the sweetest and most important sound in any language. So you just got the names wrong of the people that hooked this
up from Scottsville, Kentucky with these wonderful gifts. It's Kentucky, Jay and Tay, not Oh my god, yes there they said. I gave you. I wanted the letter. You said, no, I'll take the letter. I'm gonna read it on the podcast. And you didn't even bring it in. And there's another there's another part in the book where Dale Carnegie says, it's always important to admit and you're wrong. So I apologize I was wrong. So I want to thank Jay and Tay, and I want to thank your daughter as well.
You guys went above and beyond the call of duty. Here, I'm holding birthday candles. It's not my birthday until April, but I'm gonna hold onto these. Maybe I'll use them from the wife's birthday or something like that. So, uh, they said in the letter, I'm trying to remember because Gascon, the unreasonable Gascon did not bring this in because he's
west of the forth. That's what they get. They spelled my last name wrong, too, So you know what Kentucky Jay Bay Clay or whatever the hell it is, spelled my last name wrong. What Jay and Tay is what it is J, not k J and too anyway, So they said these happy birthday candles from their daughter. But I love this is a very unique cat. You know, I'm I've got the collection. I'm the mad hatter of a sports chatter, and you guys have been great in
the Mallard militia. I got a Kentucky hat. But I also got and we'll talk more about that later, but a Western Kentucky Hilltoppers hat. Now, this is a very unique at. This could be the most I think it's it's gotta be in the top three most unique hats. I have a zillion hats as the mad Hatter of sports chatter. But this is really cool because it's got the Western Kentucky logo on the top because this is his audio. So and then below it it says Hilltoppers.
The problem though with that is I think it's it's a cool nickname. It's unique. It's not another bulldogs or you know, wildcats or something like that. And I like that. But just Josh and Cincinnati said, hey, those are the pill poppers. So now every time I look at the hat, I don't read hilltoppers, I see pill poppers and I can't get it out of my But it's a great hat.
I really want to thank Kentucky J and Kentucky K because I I know your name is unlike yes goun uh so I do thank you very kind of you and guscon you sent him some some booze, and of course always good to give an alcoholic more booze. Uh And have you had said alcoholic beverage guest gon from Kentucky J and Kentucky I have. I had a nice little glass um it complimented my my filet that I basically put on the grill a couple of days ago.
I had that things steered nicely, um medium, well and it was great, little asparagus, little garlic and butter on top. You know, I actually, when you get a steak, it's so it's important to actually cook it and need it, not have it like burn in your freezer and just keep it while it's so, you know, just laboring in there for for months and years. You know, it's it's important. You know, when you get gifts like that, you should
acknowledge it and then put those gifts to said good use. Um. So yeah, yeah, here he's back two weeks away and no one, he complained, lady dog, I'm just acknowledging that I appreciate what they did. Pompous ass, pretentious snotty conceded, overbearing David gist gun No, I don't think so. I think insufferable. Be the word insufferable. It's uh fin tolerable. Why why didn't you have any of it? Well, because
you didn't offer and it wasn't sent to me. I got the hat, which I'm long after that booze is in your belly. I'm gonna still have the hat that I will be able to have in my rotation. I can do a college week I got the Iowa hat, I got Western Kentucky. Now I have the University of Kentucky Minnesota Golden Golfer. So I got four. I need one more to complete the hat week. Now you should have since they're playing today, you should have someone see if they can hook you up with a b y
U or Coastal Carolina hat. The Shanta clears, the Shanta clears. Yeah, any of those unique things, I'd be I'd be all about it. I when I was a kid, I used to go to you see, Irvine ant Eater basketball a game so I could get like an ant eater like I. I like this schools with kind of the weird mascots and smaller schools. I don't mind the big schools. And the Kentucky hat that we got. That was, oh man,
so much. I got so much crap for that from like Duke fans and you know these other like all the blue bloods of college basketball, the other fan bases like, oh, well you were the Kentucky had. But then the guys in Kentucky, the guys in the you know, in the South, were like, oh that's great. You know you look better. Women will find you more track, you know, I mean they were giving me the whole, the whole to do on the on the Kentucky had and how it's gonna
change my life. And I want to thank David. By the way, David's the guy who sent that in from South Carolina actually, but he's a big Kentucky fan. So but thank you, and I do appreciate that. Hey, before I forget, I guess con, I'm gonna give you a warning in the Mallard militia. All right, I want you, if you're interested in the cameo and you want to get a deal, go on cameo right now. Alright, go on cameo right now, because I'm gonna have to raise my price, not because I want to. I just did
one the other day. I did a cameo which was very annoying. You want to guess the cameo request I got. This is a couple of days ago Laker related right. Oh yeah, did you know about that? No? I have no idea, but I just I mean, you say annoying, So I figured it's gotta be Lakers. Yes, uh Jesse Jesse on cameo. Uh No, no, this is different. It's a different Jesse. Uh So Jesse sent me a message and he's like, hey, uh, you know I want you
to do. Can you please explain to my low information fan cousin why the Lakers have the same amount of championships as the Celtics And at the end, can you explain why the Lakers will pass them this season? So so I had to do a cameo and he wanted it Mallard monologue style. So so I had to do this Mallard monologue style, and uh, yeah, it was. It was interesting. It was that's a second time. By the way,
this guy Jesse loves busting my balls. But anyway, the reason I had not done a cameo in a while, we didn't really promote it. Whatever, it's there if you want it. Uh, And I know the holidays are coming up. What what a better stockings I can't think of a better digital stocking stuffer than a cameo from The Mallard Show, or for that you know, the Hanakah. You know he got eight gifts on Hanakah starts on the eleventh of December, So eight gifts, one of them make it a cameo
coming up? And you got Valentine's Day coming up. Anyway, So the reason, I'm gonna have to raise my rate. It's only thirty bucks now. So I hadn't done one in a while, but since the last time I did one. Uh, there's a third party that entered in on cameo and said, hey, I want to cut the pie right, And so I was like, wait a minute, what's what's this all about there? And so I looked and the people I think it's it's Apple is getting a cut now of each person's cameo.
I got a work around for that. What's the what's the worker? Oh, we'll have to discuss off there because you might get some people triggered on here, hold on, sa let me let me check. I want to check to give you the amount, the exact amount, because I I saw this and I was like, I did a double take because it went down like it was a decline. That's horseshit. Well, yeah, it's pretty pretty. I was pretty piste off because I was like, hey, you know, wait
a minute. You know I'm doing the same thing here. And this is especially because you should be grandfather into this thing and some the fact that's not like you just activated and account last year. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, the Apple it's called Apple I A P. And they took thirty percent. They took a thirty haircut that's craft off the top, and then whatever was off to over was then broken up. It doesn't I'm not trying to get rich on this. It's just it does take some
time to do these things. I try to do them right. I try to put some effort into them. I don't you know, I could just do them in two seconds. Maybe I should do that, But I figured, if you're spending your money to hear a rant, I wanna, I wanna make it as good as I possibly can, because you know it's unlike you guess I got some work. So but anyway, so that so that the way the break comments is you have the original price, and then I get what is Apple I A P? What is that?
Do you know what that is? No, but I can't take a look at it. I just says it on the thing here Apple in app purchase, in app purchase. So this counts as an in app purchase. But I'm not because the person, oh I see, so the person that's the person that's doing it did it on the cameo app. So they have to pay off My god, Now, I'm a cheap guy on came berry. There are some
people on there. Let's think of the math on that for some of the the other the big time people that are charging a fortune on kid like Steve my mind, my man, is Steve Harvey seven hundred and fifty dollars to do a cameo? Uh? Oh my god? Seven fifty So let me do the math on that. So thirty percent of seven hundred and fifty dollars is two hundred and twenty five dollars that the Apple is getting because the people use the app. Oh my god. So there's
a workaround for that. I mean we could have because obviously with with Benny versus the Penning, we can put you on camera. Um, we could conceive will we do something remotely where we can skip the cameo and um, people could just send the requests into me and I can give them your telephone number and we can all make this one happy trans Oh, I see what you're
doing a worker. I don't know if I'm ready to do that, but I'm telling you, I'm gonna give you until next Friday the eleven thirty dollar, right, and then it's gonna go up to forty which I don't think it's that bigger raise, but you know, I gotta at least get some of that back, which which is really just going to give the people at Apple more money apparently sucks, right, it's gonna give them more money, which I guess if you own Apple stock, that's what what
can you imagine? Oh? Yeah, speaking, it's like, isn't that like the mob though? Like that technique, Like, yeah, listen, we run the we won the app. Like how much effort is there to click on an app? And they get thirty off of that? That's unbelievable to speaking of which I did, speaking of stocks anyway, I saw him Thursday. Tesla shot up to five dollars a share. It's pretty exciting. What do you mean? And exciting it is? It is?
It's very exciting. Well, keep in mind, though, you know, your guy Elon must could pop up on the Joe Rogan podcast is to do some heroin and it would go back down. So it's a fluid a few fluid situation. If I Elon Musk had a great line about the stock the other day, and uh, and it was actually I'm gonna steal this and use this as my own. I I jotted it down. I read my little chicken
scratch here he said. Uh he Elon Musk warned the people at Tesla that the stock could get crushed like a Soux flay under a sledgehammer, so he knows, like, I gotta kick out of Elon Musk. I love the transition of Elon Musk. When you look at early Elon Musk and nerdy guy. Now he's like, now he's got hair, he's the cool guy, a couple of buttons open on his shirt, you know, sports coat guy. He's that guy. But he was like your typical nerd, your typical tech
nerd him and the guy that runs Amazon. Yeah, he's the same way. Bezos was like this nerdy guy with on a ruffled hair and all that. And now he's he's got the the trophy. I don't know. They're married, girlfriend, wife, whatever. Uh. It's pretty funny to watch the And I don't blame my boy. We'd all do the same thing, right, and we came into gazillions of dollars. We're like, Okay, I'm gonna change my little quite not. But it's it's pretty funny. Now I've been I've been playing the stock market a
little bit. My My thing is though, like some of these companies that I've purchased in the past, that I'm all about the divod ends. Guess get I'm all to me at this point, I'm like, what am I doing? Anytime I buy a stock and I have one of these apps and I and I also have a guy
I got not blind Scott anymore. But I look and and like, you know, I have a couple of of stocks that I've invested in that aren't even worth all that much, but they pay a mass I guess, you know, seven percent you know div it in yield that the you know, so offense and the stuff like that. You're like, well, why would you not to do that? Right? Just done? Not what's done? Not like about that? Like, for example, uh, I only Apple. Apple pays like point six percent diving in.
Who cares? You can get a seven or eight percent diving in? What would you not do that? Of course, all day I've actually pivoted off of just stocks. I'm gone to mutual funds and e t fs. Yeah, okay, the returns, the returns on those I've been looking at last year to five years have been tremendous, and it doesn't even matter like we're talking about politics and presidential transitions and whatnot. It's it's not impacted by by presidents with it's a change in Republican and Democrat or Democrats
are Republican. We're good man. It's just where that money is going to your tech tech and of course big farm a baby. Well I was I was told afpies it right. Yes, it's got the vaccine and all that stuff. But I was told to invest in SOI means that was when when things get a little rocky, you go to the soybeans, you go to the you know, the things that are going to be needed for forever and ever and ever. So in honor of our good friend,
I'm a pilot. I've been heavily invested in Boeing. Oh so if he told you to jump off a bridge, would you do that? Oh? Yeah, what I trust that got one thousand percent? He flies in seven's and seven seventy seven's of course, man, like I could do no wrong. That guy is probably the most elite listener you have show and podcast, and he has all of his teeth. That's a rarity with all your followers. Well, first of all,
you don't know that he has all the seats. Assuming you've never seen a photo of you don't know what the guy looks like. The guy could be standing next to you in the room. You wouldn't know what he looks like. So that's a lie. You've already started with a lie. Number two. You are so pathetic pandering too. I'm a pilot to try to get free airline tickets. It's so obvious what you're doing here. And he's not gonna give you squat because he knows. Sorry, I don't
know what airlineing works for. But I haven't they cut back. They've curtailed that. They used to give those things out, like like candy at Halloween where you get those friends five fly friends and family fly free and you're on standby. Why wasn't that the movie you're on standby if you were ticket through the airline And uh, the funny story about that. Lance the bus driver who doesn't call the show anymore, one of my annoying callers from years ago. Lance the bus driver who drove a buff bus. I
don't think he does any more. He's on disability, but he used to drive a bus around San Francisco for years, right and you're aw his people come in there and try to shank him. He's driving the bus around. But he traveled all over the world because his wife worked at the airport for one of the airlines at the you know the clerks when you check in back in the Yeah, and so that was a gig. And so he would travel around. I be in Hawaii one weekend and then you know, the next month, he'd be in
Paris and uh. And he's like a freaking bus driver and they can't afford that on a bus driver. Sorry, But his wife worked for the airline, so they didn't have to pay for the for the travel. And they also had a connection with the hotels. The hotel's is also that's if you know somebody that works in the hotel industry, man, that's that's huge. If you can get on that list. One of my radio friends he's he's
on the list. Like if you he travels around I don't know if it's it's Marriott or Hilton, but one of the big chains. And he goes to the hotel and if they have, you know, vacancies, and most hotels have lots of vacancies, they're big hotels. Yeah, I gotta gi him a little little deal, Yeah, for pennies on the dollar. Yeah he has to pay, but it's hardly anything I have. I have a good friend. She used
to um. She used to work at the w Hotel in Westwood, and then she actually worked UM at the Langham Hotel in Pasadena, which was a gorgeous hotel but really really bougie and expensive. But she, I mean, she had some insane hookups. And I mean I didn't try to capitalize on any of that, but of course not. Why would you do that because you're here in l A. You know, so what man, who cares? You know? I don't know. I mean, you're a single guy. Take advantage
of great places to visit. But yeah, I feel you on that. I mean, we we all of us can't afford the you know, the things that you got when you were in Seattle, when Jay Scoot paid for a ticket for you out there in hotels. Almost a year and it's been almore coming up on the almost year anniversary, and you are still not let that go. You you're still obably enough. That's the last time I saw you can send the fact that you don't bring your ass
into the studio to work. So it's well, I mean, maybe if you took a shower sometimes I wouldn't be able to do that. Maybe comb combed your hair instead of speaking a lot of a lot of hair die in there. I know that speaking of showering. A Thursday, you know, Wednesday was when Mayor gar Citi said l A shutting down. Yes, Thursday, I took my ass to the beach to go run and work out. Everyone and their mother was out there walking their dogs, like playing
vod on the beach or good. It's the giant middle finger to everyone in their mother that's in the political offices here in the state of California, whether it's here in l A or obviously in Sacramento. I have a hope I pray every night. I pray every night here that these politicians, all right, these politicians, all of them get voted out of office, every one of them that
has been caught. Like the mayor of Austin who was telling people not to travel while traveling in Mexico about the one you sent me the day with a Denver, Yeah, Denver. The mayor of Denver told people not to go anywhere on Thanksgiving. Stay, you know, stay in place while traveling to Louisiana to have Thanksgiving with his daughter. Uh. The King of California, His Majesty Gavin Newsom telling you know, people, it's not safe to eat out while eating out at
a ritzy restaurant, the French laundry. Is that what they call? Yeah? Yeah, I mean so by who names a restaurant laundry? I don't know, but you you went through this earlier the year with with furloughs and pay cuts. These people aren't getting any of that ship all these The governor of New York, Cuomo gave himself a raise and he got an Emmy out of it, and Emmy and Emmy for killing people in nursing homes. Oh my god. But did
they give Adolf Hitler and Emmy also? By the way, I've just lost the argument because I brought up Hitler. But that's fine. It's hard, it's worth it. That's fine. It was worth it, you know. You know what I'm saying, yesscot, it was worth it, you know, start here it is. Yeah. I could have gone see Stalin. You don't lose the argument, Hitler used. I could have gone with Stalin. Stalin would have been the better one, right, or Kim Jong un? Is he still alive? Kim Jong Un? I think so,
I don't know. Cording to c and CNBC or CNN probably not. Did you see I know, we don't get political here. I don't know if I sent you this story. Did you see the story where some guy recorded the CNN yeah Project Veritas, Yeah yeah, and they're like sing it was like threatening to sue the I for those
kind of give the brief recap guests. So they guy recorded they have a daily briefing CNN, which is the talking points the lemmings on TV that the uh, the people that just read whatever's on the teleprompter they have to repeat. So they go over that every day, and this guy happened to get access to it, which really made CNN look like a total ship show and just like a bunch of robots that just repeat, you know, it's they got their puppet master and everyone's on a
string there, which was really embarrassing. And so they were threatening to sue, right they were they were I think what Jeff Zucker didn't say it. He just acknowledged like, okay, thanks for chamming on in, but yeah, they're their Twitter handles said that they're reported to the authorities UM as a possible crime, which is really rich. Can consider the fact that they had a bunch of leaked material that was illegally linked to them. Oh, yes, it's from the
White House, from the trouble hit House. Yes, there's no conflict of interest in that at all. No no, oh, oh my god. The lack of credibility and they don't even care, like the lack of credibility and be like, wait a minute, this is this is not right. No, no, no, no. That's why I was curious when I asked Rob yesterday about him going toes with Luke Pinell if he's ever had that happen in the editing room, Like when you go with an editor on a big story, sometimes they
you know. Zucker said that he didn't want to acknowledge certain stories that were related to Biden and even his son. Well, you know, in the sports world, it's not that heated, but there could be instances where the editor says, hey, like, you know, we're good, like if it was a Manning story or Tiger Woods, like someone that's well insulated, you may don't want to go with it. Well, I had that happened to me. When I was doing the website
and I was working for some big companies. I had I had a story on Kobe Bryant, I had one on Peyton Manning, and those things never got out because they did not they had relationships and they didn't wanna hurt the relationships. And so I've had me of all people have had that happen. That's pretty wild. Yeah, it goes on all the time. There are certain people that are protected and whether it's because of business relationships or not, um what you know. And and eventually, like sometimes that
goes away. For example, Tiger Woods, those of us in the business knew rumors about Tiger Woods and his covorting uh and and it was just kind of an open secret. And then eventually it got out. He had been insulated for a long time and he lived the life of Riley and then got out. Like for some of these other guys who lived the same life that Tiger Woods lived. And then some that were invincible, they're so ins they're so protected that stuff hasn't gotten now, you know what
I'm saying. Like they were immune to fire and they can only be killed with the blood of a virgin on a full moon and that kind of stuff. So it is great. It's great because part of it's what you've you've said about presentation. You looked the part, you sound the part, and people will just eat it up. And even if you have a dark side of you outside of going full blown like Matt Lower locking a room and keeping the women in the room, like you're pretty much you're good to go, like you're safe for
the time being unless you really funk up. Yeah, or like the it was a basketball player this week, but Malik Beasley, did you see that the Timberwolves guy that was all over the social media? Guys married, got a kid. He's out in Miami, you know, making out with what's the pipping something. I don't know who that is? Is
that Scottie Pippen's exit. It's an Instagram booty model. They're all the same, not that I'm complaining they're easy on the eyes, but they're all kind of the same, right, I mean, they cut in the same cloth and they're all at the yeah like that. Yeah, all right, we have we have limited time here at guest On, so we can go now. I think we should bring this up because I don't want to forget this. The the raising Arizona yet again, I have fed the content machine
in the state of Arizona and sufferable. Uh no, I'm just doing my job. I'm ranting, I'm raving, I'm doing my rants here. This is premeditated. This is what this is. Now, it's not premeditated. And you're a big fan boy. You've slobbered all over Kyler Murray. You've gotten down, you actually had a laid down. Forget getting on your knees, but you've gotten right down there with Kyler Murray. And I I pointed out his performance against the Patriots defense, how
bad he was, and I did a rant. And the Arizona Republic, now this is at least the third time that they have done this where they wrote a story. This is twelve hundred words story on my monologue about Kyler Murray pointing out his shortcomings and uh, it's uh, it's outstanding, it's great and uh And as Rob Parker and the Friday Podcast pointed out, I had and this is a good term, the golden hammer, right, I had the ace card, which was the stat that Kyler Murray.
And I don't know there's any way you can refute this. If the car Ols do not get at least forty yards out of Kyler Murray, they are three ten and one. That is the record, three ten and one in games Kyler Murray does not run for at least forty yards and and if he doesn't even run for thirty yards, they are one eight and one. He is all about the running game. He cannot consistently win games when you take away the running game and the problem, it's not sustainable.
And this was my point because you look at the ingredients in the playoffs, and it's common knowledge when you get to the playoffs, the running quarterback has to win with the arm. If Steve Young was a great running quarterback, he won with his arm. People will say, well, what about they played Devil's Advocate, what about Kaepernick Kabernick got to the Super Bowl? Well, yeah, the Ravens took away
the running game. You remember that Green Bay game when when Kaebernick Grant Wild and all that, and that was terrible den. But you know, you keep playing further in the playoffs, you're gonna find a defense. It's not gonna allow you to run. You're gonna have to win with your arm. And you're very beautiful, You're very I know people like to worship. You worship him now you admire him. You canonized Canadik a he of a football player. You did big. You gave him audio fla. I did not know.
You're doing the king of just jerking off radio because you have all your listeners call into you. A little bit different from me critiquing a guy just because he can get in the end zone with his arms and his feed you. The term is genuflect. You took a knee. It's what you did. You you fell to your knee in worship. Slopper slopper, slopper slap. I will defend you with this USA Today article. And the reason why is because, yes, the Arizona Republic. But he got picked up I used to.
It's a partnership of the USA Today. What I don't like about it is that the article are your words. I know it's great, It's like, what the fun if you want to take a shot at a host, to take a shot at him, But he literally took your entire monologue it looks like, and then put it into
one article. His only shot was the opening setence three, He says, a late night radio talk show host went on a rant that's like, Okay, so you're trying to snipe and say a late night radio talk show like take a shot, but you know that that's kind of
low hanging for you. Well, that that is the I remember I talked to Looney when he was doing the overnights and then we both haven't had the same experience, like because when somebody wants to belittle you, some douchebag, some Mama Luke wants to belittle you and say, oh, you know you're just on I have such distain for You're just on overnight, you know, And it's it's the it's the greatest thing because uh, first of all, that's true, the show is on overnight, but I'm on more affiliates
than anyone else at Fox Sports Radio, right. And the great equalizer is that when I got into radio in the early days, we had real the real machines, all this old technology. G The only way to consumer radio show was to listen live to the radio show, unless you happen to work at the radio station could get a cassette tape copy of said radio show. But now we have this thing called podcasting, and the company does the digital stuff as well, So that's what's known as checkmate.
All right, that's what's noticed. That's the great equalizing. So essentially, what I'm doing for the for the dumb dumbs who don't understand, is we come on overnight. We're like recording a podcast overnight. That happens we broadcast live on four radio stations, but we're recording a podcast that is then repackaged for the lemmings that have to work nine to five during the day. Do you understand Gascon? Yeah, I'm defending you on this, alright. I got a little care
it was. And just if you're if you take a shot at someone nationally, you can't be doing it from a regional perspective and then punch your way up and use like low hanging fruit or platitudes that like Caseine referenced a ESPN article that had Kyler Murray as the number one quarterback in his age bracket. Like that has anything to do with fucking anything, No, it doesn't. This but this in Arizona, it's a fanboy town. You know, we've gotta get Bruce Jacobs on this podcast at some point.
Bruce is a bloviating talk show host in Arizona. But a lot of that media. They they'll jump into a volcano if Kyler Murray wants them to jump in. It's the amen choir when it comes to the hometown team. And this is we've talked about this in the past. I think that we brought this up the last time they wrote a column and and we're ranting and raving about me. It's tribalism, right, it's tribe's you know, you're
you're going against our tribe. It's us against them. It's the Arizona car this guy, and so the Arizona Republic. I don't think that that the Arizona Republic owns the Cardinals or vice versa, right, I don't think. But these blind sheep, it's Pavlov's dogs. They're all wired. They're hardwired. They gotta support the hometown team. And uh so I enjoyed that conversation with Rob Parker yesterday because Rob has dealt with this for many, many years and we're kindred
spirits on that. And see, here's the thing though, and to your point, if that stuff with Robin lou happened in the two thousands, now with social media, there's no way he'd be allowed back in Cincinnati's dugout, No fucking way, not in the clubhouse. On the dugout. You know, they reprimand him because it makes the organization look bad. Well, and the thing is that the overreact to social media because they think that's real. Yes, and as we've also
in previous episodes said, it's it's the matrix. It's not real. It's a it's a version of reality, but it's not reality. You've got a lot of Russian bots and a lot of burner accounts, it's not. And then you've got a lot of people aren't even on social media. People think everyone's on there and that's the pulse, that's the heartbeat of an issue, and it's not. There's some rabid, rabid, loyal, invested,
lunar ticks that are on there. But wasn't the number we talked about this early in the Apocalypse that the top ten percent of people, for example, on Twitter are responsible for eight of the content created in the United States. So you're talking about ten percent and Twitter, to start with, most people aren't on Twitter, but only ten percent of
that small pie then create of the content. And the users are much younger than the average you know person in the United States, right I mean so, and they're skewed politically certain ways. I think that's fair to say. Guess a rubber Necker of social media, I think that's fair to say. Yes, there's just so much I would have appreciated if the Arizona Republic took the time to actually go line by line on your points to either disprove them or to counter them. Well, how do you
disprove the golden hammer? Okay, how do you do disprove that? I do? I agree, I can't, But the one counter I could make is the amount of touchdowns of their offensive productivity here in compared to and pre Kyler Murray. Yeah, but the fact that Arizona should be a five team Hail Mary is a fluke play. But still can't That's my idea, Like, you can't recreate that and and have it happened, you know, nine out of ten times, twenty out of one times, it's not gonna happen or whatever
you want to say. Yeah, on on that side of things, you have the Arizona Republic that was trying to take you out to the to the wood shed. And then on the other side of things, what the funk was that? What I saw on Thursday, you had Jason Barrett just have like a tongue bath, just lathering you up and just massaging you and giving you an a kiss and just licking your ears and then just rubbing your nipples.
That's fucking gross. You had a former p D and his under links right this this this lovely poem that was dedicated to you for going out on a limb and taking shots at Kyler Murray. Just disgusting. Uh look, I don't know how you feel good about that. I well, I respect you know, Jason is one of the top influences. That's why he has no idea who you are. But I appreciate what Jason does there. And uh, you know, he respects the show, he respects the content, and he
consults with many big radio companies and radio stations. And uh so it's it's nice when someone who's in your industry lauds over you. Doesn't happen very often. And uh it's it's it's not bad. Say I'm now critically acclaimed on the back of pointing out the shortcomings of Kyler Murray. Well, the media is licking his toes. Uh you know, it's it's nice. It's if I'm feeling pretty good here. I'm feeling what the other side of the train tracks is like.
Now that now, now I know why you decide to take that wager with the Clippers and eat Rocky Mountain oysters. It was a publicity stunt. You do something, you do something for show, and all of a sudden, Jason Barrett covers it, and then it comes right around and now it's just a little tongue bath tickling of your toes.
Look what Ben Mallard did. You're using my box sports radio national host and says to take a shot at an m VP candidate because he didn't like what he's done in the last four or five You're using my material, dummy, which is just stupid. It's a compliment. He should take it as a compliment. And then yeah, okay, I mean my guy, uh but but but no, I mean he I have just been doing the regular show. What the people listen, then they like it, and that's that's great
what he wants. I don't know if they like it. Didn't you have a listener the other day say he was gonna give you a blowjob for watching Pittsburgh and Baltimore play Wednesday afternoon. Yeah, well, I mean, I don't know. That's the same guy that flew across the country to go get laid right and then got COVID. I I don't know about that. But do you're talking about justin instance that he's gonna have to get approval from Robbie the Mariner fan before he comes out here. But I
don't know. I don't know how that's gonna go down. It was an odd wager. I didn't ask for that, but it's the the second time. Now we had Lee Klein on the podcast, and Lee we told the story you weren't here because you were lad. But it was great. Ryan Smith was so good that what professional, what quality sounded doing? He had dead pan comedy. Uh, he was smooth. He had a great deadpan comedy. He was dead. He's just got no personalities, the stiff with the board. It
was so good. He was to work with a professional. You know, it has it's been so long since I've worked with a professional at Ryan. Are you trying to take shots at Coope and Roberto and Eddie? Is that what you're trying to say, Well, this is on the podcast the podcast world. Uh. And it was like he
he'd read you know, John Wooden's Pyramid of success. You know, he doesn't even know how to read uh, competitive greatness, integrity, poise, offens, adaptability, all of those things in the pyramid of success, and he did all of them. And it's so nice to have a guy like Ryan Smith. So if you want to take more time off, you know, the end of the year is coming up, Like if you want to take like a month off, maybe if you want ones, you know, take take a gap year, like you're a
tenured professor. How about that I could do that. Yeah, you should be begging to be back on the podcast. Why you should be asking because you the guy you got Wally pipped, the guy was better you got you got Drew Bledsoe. You got hurt and and Tom Brady came in and you had a dynasty the Wally Pip and Drew Bledsoe. Those are professional athletes that were in the big leagues. This is not the big league. Is here with you? Is not the big leagues. This is
the big leagues. This is this is like Portman's version of w E. I like you get fired after you got hired. That That's that's it. This is what this is. Yeah, you're doing You're a snake oil sale that's what you are. You're a snake oil salesman. And people are on to you now, people are onto you in your snake How do you figure the emails? I get the messages on Twitter. People still send jokes in goofing on you and you're not even on the radio. But who gives a shit
about them? I don't care. People are obsessed with me, and that's fine. Let them be obsessed. Well, they were obsessed because you're so bad, right bad? I mean, this is not this is not this is not a good thing. I'm on their mind. I'm probably on their girlfriend's mind. That's fine, that's good, It's fine. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah you are you and Jim Jones and Marshall apple White. All right, the little cult over there, all the ladies, right, yeah, yeah,
you can hang out with the branch Davidians. Oh my god, insane. All right, we gotta put the baby to bed. Guests on, right, don't forget Subscribe to Betty Versus the Penny. It was last night. It was pretty good. And obviously Week thirteen finally gets underway tomorrow. Yeah, and next week we're gonna do it very early. Next Friday, guests. God, very the earliest we've ever done it next Friday, because I have
a scheduling issue. It's brunch with Benny. Yeah, we're gonna do it very very early, So that's a heads up. Next Friday. I say early. It's on the East coast to be like the evening the early afternoon on the West coast, which is early morning for me. But I have a I have an engagement that I cannot talk about that I have to do on that Friday, so I will be unavailable. All right, listen, have a great rest on your Saturday. Thank you for supporting the podcast.
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