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that the weekend has begun. The Fifth Hour with Ben Mallory, because four hours are not enough, and we are doing this now eight days a week, and thank you for that being part of this. The numbers continue to go up. We're gonna address that in a couple of minutes. And we are as always in the air, everywhere more than ever now on the podcast the Vast Power and the global footprint. Put footprint, he's mean to say of the

podcast there as it's heard every week three times. We can started out as once a week and then morphed into a monstrosity and as always joined for better or worse by the man affectionately known as gag On, David Gascon, who's right over there, happy a happy, happy weekend to Ben Maller. I think it's uh been a long time, been a long time since so we have we have, we've gotten together. But the day after you and Rob Parker, Robert Garrett, myself, it's it's nice to decompress a little

bit from the day that was. Um oh yeah, radio history clearly. And uh, I think we should actually start with this because I have gotten nothing but vitriol from the Mallard militia. Uh. They want me to never ever do anything other than the show. And uh and if I do anything other than the show, then this becomes from Maggie. I try to explain to people that listen. I got a phone call, I was asked to do this. I love Rob, I'm a big fan. I wanted to

do it, and he wanted me to do it. Management wanted me to do it, and so and then and then they're like, well, you should still have done your show last night. You still should have been in and then the show. My argument was like, yeah, I would have done it. I've done a ton of radio. When I worked at e I, I was doing like a three hour show there on a four hour show at Fox.

It was like seven hours. I only had an hour break, so I would totally do it, but it that was on different radio stations, like this is the same radio I started explained to people, like the concept of like like if if you have one voice for seven hours out of eleven, management doesn't normally want that because they want different voices on. That's usually how that works a little a little bit different, especially because and I still get random texas from you, like at six or seven

o'clock in the morning. In fact, I had to go back through my phone on that date on Thursday, and yeah, I'm like, what the funk is? He's still doing a way go to bed? No got I got a certain routine, I got a certain schedule. I gotta keep my schedule and um, but yeah, I'm gonna do these other day parts. But I am happy to report. I don't know if you've done this something we talked about this a while ago. But I have done the radio cycle. Very few people

in radio have done the radio cycle. I've done the radio cycle. Now what is the radio cycle? Yes? Now, first of all, you gotta you gotta really be messed up in the head to do it. That's the first thing. Second thing is it's a round the clock, spanning the clock. I have been on over my career every hour of the day, every day. Part from like morning drive, which I've only done briefly, mid days, which I did a little while I I was for a couple of years,

I did mid days, afternoon drive. I've done some shows on afternoon drive, evenings, late nights, and then overnights. So I've done the full radio cycle. Now, I know, guest on you're you're not really into that, you don't you You're pretty boogey. You like your sleep, you like your routines, So you probably haven't done the radio, the full radio cycle because you you're someone that likes to to have daytime shifts. You like the daytime radio. Well, no, I've

never I've never hosted around the cycle. In fact, I've never hosted on any cycle. So that's that's correct. Are you complaining about that? Why don't you make that change? Create your own reality? How about that? It's a little bit of a log gam here, and I don't think that I'd have that opportunity to do that. I don't know. That's a definis statude losers mentality. I guess I think you'd agree with me that everyone needs to have an opportunity to swing the stick, but that doesn't come without

an advocate. So I think I think you around on you and be like, hey, you know what, I think this guy deserves to have a shot. And you know, I'd like to woken up the microphone to my right or to my left and uh, let's give this an Well, I would be really open for you getting a shot if you had more empowering beliefs that if you try to, you know, create your own reality and you know, make

life happen for you. I one of my pet peeves is people that have the victim mentality and you're out to get me, and it just sounds like you have that. It sounds like you're letting obstacles hold you back. Well, I don't think it's too hard, it's too difficult, there's too many people. Oh my god, I don't think it's any of that. I think it sounds like to me,

I think it would. You would agree with me here that that working here and and working with you like those are things that I'm not publicly or privately acknowledged for doing. Right, I think that you can attest to that. So what are you referencing here, What are you getting in here? Well, I mean it's the pro bono work. We've we've discussed this, and you know I'm not oh yeah,

but you're free to leave whatever you want. I mean, I mean, you're open to if you're not happy here, if we're we feel like you're not being treated properly and you feel like this is an obstacle you cannot overcome, and you're free to re resign from your position here. I'm sure there's seven thousand other people out there would love to do this. Well, I don't think those of thousand people would want to do that, to be fair,

do you? I get email every day from people saying, get rid of guests, gun bring somebody else in here, and so that the people are saying, so, I I mean, I'm you know, not listening to them. I'm ignoring them. I like working with you, but bitching your west of the four or five attitudes. You know what, in that entire rat you said you'd like to work in with me, So you know what, that's the acknowledgment that I needed. So let's you just need me to scratch your back

a little. I think it's more appropriate that you can say like a thank you ever so often or a paddle the back and be like, man, it's good to hear your voice, like like when you were dying, when you were dying in the in the hospital and you came back from your gallbladder situation, I said, you were missed. You're missed by all, you were missed by me, and it's good to have you back in the saddle and im bloviating on the air. So well. I think it's important that you you know that they kind of you.

And I believe the quote of Chuck Baganto he was literally on his deathbed there and uh yeah, I was there because of you, by the way, so make sure you don't forget that. The last the famous question, have you ever had a surgery? If you ever? And uh within what ten days? I think something like that I was being chopped open. So thank you for that, guest gun, I appreciate literally literally gutted yes, thank you and uh so you couldn't do diddle pooh in my book. But

but anyway, let'sten. So be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show week days at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. We've got just a few things here on the menu. Lean in me and I'm sure we'll spin into a couple of things we'll have later on. We'll get the Florida Man. I have a few stories. I love the Florida Man. The Florida Man is great, and so we have a few Florida Man stories. We'll get to those in a little bit. We have the

magical hack Saw and Handy Man and Mallard. We're gonna get to these. So why don't we start with hacks Ag who we had on last week on the podcast. And uh to say that hacks All still has a little bit on his fastball is an understatement that there's a there's a need to hear the voice of Lee Hacksaw. Hamilton's a staple of Los Angeles, San Diego West Coast Radio,

early days of sports talk radio. The numbers on this now we get real time feedback on what's good and what's not good, and what people are listening to, what people are listening to and Lee Hamilton's when we chatted with him, we went on memory Lane. We broke the ice on the high Speed Sports Wire from Baja to the Canadian Rockies. This was a ratings win for the

podcast Gascon, was it not? Yeah, it was. I had to go back, and I was just curious because as soon as the number, I tend to check the the reports like every other day or like once a week to see like the progression or like what's going and what's not and when people actually download these podcasts, because we did tweak a little bit, going from like a Friday midday to Friday morning, Saturday and Sunday mornings, and then I had to go back to not only your podcast,

but then also your show podcast, like the regular overnight show. And so dating back to January one of twenty nineteen, your highest rated download ever for any audio is the interview time with Lee Hacksaw Hamilton's believable. So that broke because the previous record was the Kobe Bryant Death Show, when we were on the night after Kobe had died in the helicopter accident. That had been number one. So Hacksaw is bigger than Kobe. Yes, yeah, So you had Hamilton's.

So you had the Kobe Bryant Show, and then you had the best of what the Kobe Bryant in there, and those two were both topped by by hacks On. Yeah, and just for the record, and I'm not certainly looking for a compliment, because I would never do that. I had wanted to get hacks on a long time ago, and I thought this would be the perfect platform for that. And someone I'm not gonna name any names, he was

disturbed by that. Someone was bothered by that, was baffled why I would want to put Hacksaw on the podcast, almost to the point of being agitated. Uh. And it was just bewildering to this person that I would want to do that. And it's very odd of you know, because I'm thinking, well, this is what's wrong with this. This will be fine, you know, nobody should be bummed out about this. Hacks as a friend and he's a

mentor of mine. And but yet, uh, there was somebody and again I'm not naming any names, might have grown up, might be living west of the four or five. It was annoyed by this, was exasperated by the idea that hacks would would be on the podcast, and uh, you know, it just makes makes me pump my chest out a little bit more on just just saying, you know, some people are maybe ungrateful for the hard work of booking certain people and do not appreciate that, but it does happen. Yeah,

well we should acknowledge those people. If they are ungrateful, they don't appreciate your your hard work, and so we should make sure that they kind of put their nose in their own ship. Well, I'm sure, I'm sure the people that felt that way will also acknowledge their mistakes and their inaccuracy and say that they screwed up, they dropped the ball on that one. They misjudge the The

listener to the podcast, Yeah, I I completely agree. Now, this actually goes against as you know, this goes against the great, the great author Dale Carnegie. This goes against what his words were in telling people that they are wrong. Never tell people that they are wrong, just point out some different information that they can change their Carnegie didn't host a sports talk radio program, so he built a multimillion dollar business. That's what That's what he did. So

I read the book. I liked the book, but it's not word for It's kind of like people read the bable, they don't follow it word for word. Right, there's a lot of debauchery that people do that you shouldn't do in the Bible, but people still do it right. You shouldn't shouldn't riot, you shouldn't kill people, you shouldn't fornicate out of marriage. People still do it right, and you pick and choose what's important to them. So that's that's the way human beings consume literature books. You pick and

choose what you think is important. Like the stuff I took out of that that book were you know, certain little things to help communicate and make people feel better about themselves and the little things like that. But it's not a word for word right right, point by point thing.

But for you, it's interesting that that would be something that's very important to you, and it's really telling about your personality that that is that that you're kind of a typical millennial here that anybody tells me, I made a mistake and I got a problem, I got a I got an issue. That's not true. I'm always like it sounds like I'm always first to acknowledge when I'm in the wrong. I'm always open for for debate and for listening. And uh, I feel like I'm pretty open

the conversation. I'm not. I think you'd agree with me more that I'd more the listening here than the talking, and so I think that, you know, with with that being said, I think that's typical of my personally. I'm really an open spirit here. So this reminds me of that old conversation with the great talk show host from Chicago, Mr North. There like North and what was he What was his line? Something like, welcome to the big leagues. Not You're not in the minor leagues anymore, You're in

the big leagues, and very very funny quote. But did be sure to catch live editions of the Ben Maller Show week days at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. Just to follow up on the hacks thing. I did have a brief conversation with Lee Hanks on him and I called him up checked in with him a couple of days after we had him on, and Hacksaw was very kind. He wanted to come on the radio show, and I tried to explain to him we don't really

have guests on the radio show. It's just you know, the podcast thing, and he was cool with that and

he wanted to come back on the podcast. So considering the massive ratings and we didn't even get to like most of the stuff we could have talked about with Hacks that we just did, like the basic outline nd of Haxe's career, but some of the crazy things that happened at the mighty six ninety back in the day, and all the personalities, the people that made it, the people that didn't make it, um some big names, some some hit and misses at that station, and some of

the other drama that went on behind the scenes, which is now all fair game because the Statue of Limitations has run out on that and so you don't have

to worry about burning bridges or anything like that. In fact, I just so Howard Friedman, who was the program director when I interned in San Diego, and I've told the story before about Howard, like many of my my neurotic nature towards radio, never wanting to take days off is in large part because Howard Friedman as a program director in San Diego, when people would take vacation at the

end of the year, he just fired them. They would never come back, and so uh so because of that, I was, like, I correlated that if you take time off, you're gonna gonna lose your job, and all this stuff and so you can thank him for me not taking a lot of time off. But plus I just like doing the show anyway. Yeah, that's that's pretty interesting. I did not know that. Now, did he ever take time off, Howard? Yeah, yeah, how I took it. He's in he moved to Idaho, by the way. I just I don't know if I

should say that, but nobody knows who he is. But yeah, that's a pretty generic name. But yeah, he's retired now he's living, and I hope, Yeah, he took time off. Of course, that's interesting. So also he also had the line that he was, you know, when the board ops would funk up and they would make a mistake, which would happen occasionally, and he he would be quick to

fire them and uh. And his his line was something to the effect that he could go down to the San Diego Zoo or the train station, to the bus station and find somebody that could run the board. Always nice to uh to diminish someone that's making like ten dollars an hour part time. It was even last back then, man, not even ten blucks an hour. There, you better off working at Jack in the box. You make more money, the benefits are better that's that's fascinating. But yeah, Haxell

was really good. You know, the beautiful thing about asking the questions. He's rather long winded, and that's from the experience and from his his roots of coming from the East Coast to the West coast. There was a lot to There's certainly a lot to take in, especially since he kind of covered the globe with sportscasting right play by play and being a reporter and being a he did it all, So I I like, I like guys like that that can cover everything as opposed to be

in a one trick pony. So I really appreciate that. Yeah, and I loved, you know, to to butter his biscuits because he's not here and he won't hear this, but the methodical nature that he would prepare for the show and that he had this and everyone's got their own way to do things, but he was so formulated and so disciplined and meticulous with the way that he would get ready for whether it was a charger game or the talk show. And he brought it up and it

was it's ridiculous. And there's there's two different ways to do it, and you know, there's you can make beds different ways. You can cut peel peel and orange different ways. But uh he he really mastered the willpower part of it, and uh so it was pretty cool. So thank for all the download the hacks So hopefully well we'll actually gain some new listeners that will say, wait a minute, maybe I should listen to this going forward as opposed

and we'll have other guests on. You know, if you want to recommend somebody, feel free to reach out either on social media or if you there's somebody that maybe somebody in radio like Hacksaw that I used to work with, that you you would want to hear on. It's the email address, is what is it? Dear? It's the uh let's see here the fifth hour, right, fifth hour, the fifth hour, real fifth hours, real fifth hour. There you go. Eventually, I'll get it right, keep getting fifth hour at gmail

dot com. I was gonna say, like part of see I personally read that wrong because like we had Tony Bruno on you know, a few episodes ago, and Tony did well. To Tony, yeah, those were good. So I guess for me, it's just you know, how I'm trying to read the the audience because you have a very eclectic audience and people that listen to your show or people that just listen to podcas as younger, older, and so I'm trying to get an idea of what people

like to listen to. So I was figuring, like, well, if we had Tony on who was a host and a former host at Fox Sports Radio, like, would that go in line with having another host that's worked in the industry that's close on by it too? So I thought like, maybe we should spread those out. So I read the Uh, I read the I read the green a little wrong, and yeah, that's but now we know. And you don't know what you don't know until you

know what you don't know. And now you know what you don't know, So now we know and uh and going forward and at some other I'm trying to think of some other ideas. I wish the late great Joe McDonald was still with us. I'd have big, Big Nasty on Joe McDonald, who was a big star l a talk show host, another guy that influenced me in my career, the Big Nasty as they called him there, and I had some radio wars with him and we went at

it a few times. We've got some fights, me and him, but we made up and we were friends and and all that. But anyway, so any you are right about the Mallar mush because, as I referenced your ear you're in this podcast, there were many people very upset with me who wanted to put a human firewall up around me to protect me from leaving to go just do a one, one off type show with Rob Parker, which was yesterday, and people very protective and they do not

want anything. It's almost like they don't want If I were to leave the overnight, I would these people would be revolting. Guess there would be a revolt if I did that. Yeah, it's a little odd. It's the same station, it's the same network, it's the same platforms, it's just a different time slot. I don't I don't know. I think, if anything, that people are failing to acknowledge that by you working with Rob on his show, that directs traffic to your show or to your podcast, which I might add.

Over the last sixty days, downloads are up a hundred and sevent Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven p m. P sip. It's good, it's wonderful. So but yeah, this is not again just to clever, people were comparing me to Blake SNeW there was some kind of dereliction of duties. In fact, it's the opposite of that. It is not any defiance of authority. I was contacted by authority. This is not a disobedience. It is obedience, is what it is.

If I had said no, that would have been more of a rebellion type situation. Well, it's a combination of both though. You you leave your time slot to go another, but then you bring somebody else in a fill your time slot that people don't like. So it's a conversation that they're y. Yeah, it was that I I don't like to I'm not gonna lie. I I like my show. I I love that I have the show. I would like to do my show. I feel like that's what

I should do. But occasionally, from time to time I feeling like I know some other guys that do this all the time, that you know, shift and move around. I know not the name names here, but there's some people that do this and love to change day parts and have no problem with it. And I guess It's okay for them because they don't get lampooned and ridiculed

their listeners, which is wine. That's the beauty of the Mallard Militia, a bunch of hoodlums, which I love so anyway, all right, now, a couple of other things here on this wonderful, glorious edition of the podcast The Fifth Hour with Ben Mallard. So handy man Mallard. Now, I had mentioned this, We talked about this a couple of weeks ago.

But I now have everything locked in, everything has been purchased, everything is here, and this weekend, at some point this weekend, I am going to do a d i y project. That is right. I will be renovating the remote Mallard studio here. I will be paddling my own canoe and uh I look forward a little home improvement project there,

a little home studio project. I'm gonna get out the toolbox and I will throw together with some spit and duct tape, a brand new look, a brand new look for or the city, which you said, well, who the hell cares about that? You know the matter? It's a damn radio show. Nobody can see inside. I say no. I say no because of the YouTube videos which have become more and more popular, growing viewers for those things on the YouTube channel that now this becomes more important,

and so the company thinks it is important. So I will go through, much like Hacks does a show very robotically. I will be going through and be touching up, cleaning up, dusting, moving stuff around that you cannot see in the camera, but there will be stuff behind the camera. Lit'll make it in this and we're lighting here and we're gonna try to make it less generic brand and more mainstream

because we're going mainstream. We are going. It's rather unremarkable right now, but it's I just threw this together a couple of years ago. What's interesting like this is uh, like you continue to to dress up. I like it. It's here we go again. Oh I'm I'm just acknowledging it because you went from having a show with w e I where you you had to do that stuff from from your remote studio and now not on camera. Who was not on EI stuff was not on cameras.

Used threw together some soundproofing and yeah, yeah, so now you get to do this for for Fox and for on the the YouTube platform. There's different ways that they're able to to market and monetize and do it stuff on a on a on a bigger level too, which is beautiful. So I'm encouraged by this. Do you have a glimpse of what we can look at like penance or or pinned up hats or oh you'll you'll be You'll be seeing it soon enough, there, guess can I get?

They got a couple of things here that I'm I'm working on, Like, do you have any home Do you have any jerseys at home they're framed or put into a seal that you're gonna post up now. I don't have any frame jerseys. I have jerseys that I have a bunch of jerseys from years ago, but they're in the back of the bowels of the closet. Back that's that's what do you have? You have frame jersey's guests? I have? So you let me guess your high school

football jersey, your Al Bundy. I have a signed John Elway throwback jersey, and then I have I have a Vince Scullier Dodgers jersey that's like the skull in the back of the microphone. I got a really awesome gift A listener sent a autograph. This is really cool photo of Sandy Kofax that I have to get autograph photo of ko Fax. I gotta get that framed, and I get a few a few other things here that I yeah, I don't, I don't have to. I actually want to

put some more photo. The only photo I have up in my office here is the one from the Cleveland

Cavaliers parade. Why would I have that, you ask, because that was the famous day that some whacka doodle, this Mama Luke was walking around in front of millions of people in Cleveland and he held up a sign with a list of all these haters that didn't think the Cavaliers are gonna come back to beat the Golden State Oars and was like, the first person hit my photo, hit my photo from my avatar from Twitter he had on this thing, and I'm like right next to Skip

Baylist and stephen A. Smith and all these guys, and it was it was hilarious. I thought it was photoshop. So somebody sent it to me and I thought, who the funk would put me on there with those idiots.

I mean, I'm you know, Overnight radio guy. And then sure enough it was legit because I saw a couple of different photos that were going around, and so I got this thing blown up and I thought, it's hilarious that that this this some random person was so upset that they ran around the parade to to try to goof on me, and uh, and I'm celebrating that. So I had that, But I gotta put up the photos from the meet and greets. Actually the Bakersfield one where I think, did you take that? I don't know who

took that, but the Bakersfield. There was one in sanbur Do the base minor league baseball stuff, and then the Boston casking flagging. There's a team photo there I want from the Mallam Militia of the Northeast there in the New England States, and then the one from Seattle. I'd like to get those frame, but I haven't had time. And you know, I'll get to it at some point. So not that you really care about that, but I am excited about this. I'm looking forward to I always

love touching up the studio. I've been spent a lot of time in here. I probably spend fifteen hours a day in here during the week, and so it's it's good yeah. Now, yeah, yeah, I was gonna say, like, is it really good though, because that that kind of gives me the inclination that you are expected to stay in there a lot longer than the normal. Like, does that mean that you're not returning to the Geico Fox

Sports Radio. No, No, I'll be back, I think though going forward, I'll probably do the show from this studio some of the time. Like you know what I'm saying that we won't be full return. It will be a partial return. But I need to go back to the radio station, and I will go back to the radio station. We'll make that happened. I gotta figure out the logistics. I think we talked about this also is in a

previous episode of the YouTube videos. I got a pretty like I said, I got a pretty good system down now on getting that stuff recorded because I gotta do it on my own here, which is no big deal. Just click a button and then you stop it and then you you know, you have to compress it or what. It's really pretty simple. We can take somebody out of out of a dog cage and teach him how to

do it. But but anyway, so yeah, so I gotta figure that out and I've you know, I thought a couple of ideas on how to do that, but I have not actually done a dry run. You know, if you if you want, you know, I know that there's a lot of people here, but you know, if you want to ask me, you could lean on me. I think I had this. I think I had a you know, a thought of doing something like this while back. So

we go, here we go. I've I've touched a nerve. No, I'm just saying if you need help, I'm I'm here for you. Like you know sometimes if you need any audio that's taken out, or if you need help with the monologue, and I'm here to help you out. Man. You know, get a lot of moxie over there. You certainly are not lacking in in moxie. Yes, but I want to tell you so. So the studio home studio. So like when I did it for the when I was doing some w E I and that lasted a

couple of years. I did that for about two years, a little over two years, I believe it was. And then that came to an end. And so then I was like, I got all this radio equipment, I don't do the Fox Show from here? Like I did the New Zealand thing that ended during the pandemic, but I still was doing it with the I wasn't even really using the equipment because it wasn't really working right. Um, And then I was like, maybe I should get rid of it, you know. Uh, And but I'm so happy

I kept it because I was like debating. I was like, it's taken up some space and you know, I don't know if I'll be using it again. And then I'm sure enough it worked out and it was it was a decent cost. I was out of pocket and nobody paid. I had to buy all this crap and and put it together. So fortunately, I know you're very concerned about my finances. The return on investment very good. As it turns out now because of the apocalypse, it's it's worked

out pretty well. That's good. And you know, I'm I'm happy that you made decision to erin the set of caution, because especially in this downtime, you're gonna have down to here and you're gonna have a lot of stations that are gonna flip from local to national and their occasionally gonna need filling people too. So actually I talked to some people in Florida earlier in the week about about the podcast, and I was talking to them about like bookings and guests and kind of trading guests back and

forth between their content and whatnot. And a couple of the guys I talked to that are are program directors in Florida. They they like you a lot, and they actually have you on their shows, like one in in Fort Myers, Florida, another one in Tampa. So nice. Yeah. Yeah, I've gone on the morning show and uh, I think in Fort Myers done on that station that our Fox affiliate. There some good guys. Actually, one of those guys is

sick right now. I hope he's doing all right. I have not gotten an update on that, but yeah, that was it was a good guys. I love like the good radio people, you know those are those are those guys Fort Myers And it's just like regular dudes, radio guys. I love radio guys, like lifetime radio guys. I love. For some reason, these are my people. They have the same michigas I have. They've lived the same life I've lived, and so I love. I love those guys. And everyone's

got a chip on their shoulder. Yeah, yeah, exactly. You're you build up. It's a rhino skin when you work in well, any business, but in radio in particular. The rhino skin thing is really you learn to roll with the punches. Yes, you gotta build up some scar tissue in life. And if you don't have scar tissue, that's what I'm doing it. You know, I give you a hard time, guest gun, because I want you to build up scar tissue. You're a West of the four oh

five guy. You've lived a trumped life. I want you to to to have to learn to withstand some criticism, toughen up a little bit, don't go into a shell and total up. And so you're you're doing better, I mean better. I can go through the scar tissue. If you like, I've torn a couple of groins, of torn a hamstring, of you have more than one groin? What do you like some kind of sideboard or something like that, guest gun toward a couple of groins left grind torn right, groin,

torn hamstring quad right. You might want to consider some different women to date. If you've turned both parts of your growing there, what's up to that doing? I was playing hockey, so I did that. Yeah, so I got California who's playing hockey. I think there's one thing that Wayne Gretzky you can't you can't disagree with that. There's uh, I don't lack any I don't lack grit or intestinal fortitude here, especially working with the likes of many people

of Fox Sports. Ready, would you like to name names here? I feel like you want to name some names. Well, I know, I mean, I just you know, not everyone's as you know, not everyone's easy to work with. You gotta adapt and overcome and sometimes just endure. And so I feel like I'm I'm a teammate. I have a competitive atmosphere. It's a very competitive. Yeah, I think so.

But I think that, you know, if you're a host, I don't think it would be a pont you or incumbative you too straight arm an editor or a producer something that's low on the totem polls. So I'm not saying you, but wow, you know otially implying that no, no, I don't know the listener can hear that? Well? First of all, you don't have any editors that work on your show, so that's correct, nothing, nothing at all. You have director, a producer in an acre like you are

or bare bones. So that is that is true. And at one point years ago, in the early days of Fox Sports Radio, we had just me and the board up. The board op had to answer the phones and do the technical work, and the updates were recorded. Oh I don't know that. And that that was how we got

virtual disager p ones. Remember the oldest Steve de Segur, who doesn't even work overnights anymore, is below him, but he used to work overnights and so he would record his updates and leave, and so I would ask the seer questions, trying to make it you know too, and and and we put these drops in where he would respond, and it was virtual Steve the saga. It's pretty good. It's very very popularly. So you don't have a producer either during your show back in the day. No, no,

I had no producer, they said. When I started on the weekend overnights, They're like, hey, listen, we don't have a budget. I always live when you hear that, and but if you want to do it, you'll have to produce it, and you'll just have the board op. And then and that lasted a while, and then something slipped past the goaltender and then that changed inside radio term.

But something did slip past the goaltender that was not supposed to slip past the goaltender, and then all of a sudden they're like, Okay, we need to put more more people in there. But at that time, I was doing an update shift. Before I had I did a few hours of updates. I think it was like three or four hours of updates. I did the show and then I did a couple of hours of updates after. Yeah, it was like a nine hour period of time there.

That's a good idea. Like if there was an opportunity to do something like that, I think I would go back to the overnight. Oh so you you're willing to do that if you get the host, you really went well. I think everyone in no matter any walk of life, whether you're in television, radio, if you're you know, a teacher, whether you're a basketball coach, I think I think you would agree with me that whatever occupation you're in, you

always want to advance. You always want to take another step, Like you don't want to be stuck in just the norm or like whatever the president is right, like that goes for Yeah, but you're you also at some point, not that you should be satisfied, but you should not. I mean, you can't always want to do it's a certain point you should if you're at a point where you're successful and you're you're comfortable and you're doing well, like you're still gonna be like I I gotta do

something else. I mean, it's is it's like that what's that guy's name that left the office? What's his name? The remember the when the office was very popular in the middle of it, he quit. I forget the guy's name. But like that would be, hey, I'm being typecast as the guy from the office, so need to go do some other stuff and the office could still be on the air if you had stayed, they would still be doing the Office. Yeah, I mean Daniel Craig's like that.

For for James Bond, like he's he's over written. He doesn't want to be typecasted as double O seven. But but you know, I'm with with that being said, I'm not satisfied yet. So like if there was a point where I felt like, man, I'm I'm good with where I'm at, then yeah, I would, I'd be comfortable. But I think there's always that need to do more or learn more, or to interact or to be engaged more. So you know, I'm not there yet. I think that

you're not. I think, yeah. I mean it's like this podcast, for example, Like I wasn't you would agree with me on this, Like I wasn't content with where our numbers that were at towards the till and twenty nineteen, and so I feel like we should do more. We can do more, and we have done more, and I think that the listeners and the adience have responded in kind. And I think that's the reflection of the effort we're

putting in. But it's it is going well. And some of that, though, is the apocalypse and the fact that there's more people listening now than ever before to Fox Sports Radio. I mean, let's that'd be honest. You ever, that part of it is, uh, it's an odd situation. This is an odd year. This is our our podcast is space X and here you come mother Nature with the pandemic rating us sound, scuttling the vision. Yeah, and like we still get the people upset when we've had

doctors on talking about the coronavirus. Doctor you had doctor, you had people that were upset that we had the doctors on. Yeah. Yeah, They're like, oh this is you know, right wing propaganda and all. I'm like, okay, I mean I didn't First of all, your friend the doctor didn't say this is he didn't say anything outrageous. I thought he said this is real. He's had it. And I mean like Dr G was fine too. I thought he

was great and people and some people enjoyed him. But yeah, there's there's certain people I just can't I can't handle. Let me just get triggered. That's embarrassed. We triggered. Those are our those are our citizens, those are our our countrymen that are doing God's work. What I don't know. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live. It is odd.

It is odd, all right. We have a few Florida man stories here, so we get to that the Sunshine State never never lacking in providing us with great content for the radio show. So here we go. This is outstanding. A Florida man, guesscon accused of kicking a chicken like a football like you would kick a field goal so hard he broke four of the animals rips. The problem was, you think kicking a chicken, you would assume the chicken

was already like frozen, right, No, this was a live chicken. Yeah, yeah, he kicked a live chicken. He was apparently annoyed. He said he was annoyed by the noise the animal was making. So he suddenly turned in Martin to uh to Adam Vinitari or Martin Grammatica or one of the kickings, and Day has brothers and decide, you know what, this chicken will not show it up, So I Am going to see if I can kick a fifty yard field goal. And of all the like there's so much chicken consumed.

We did a big Chicken podcast a while ago, of all the things like really, like, I mean, you go to the if you want to kick a chicken, go buy a frozen chicken and kick it. Like what are you doing? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, nothing, nothing to show your toughness, and to man up like chicken a chicken, like the chicken's pride, the size of his foot and he's punting that thing like fifty yards. That's unbelievable. Yeah,

how now did he How old was he? Do you know the age he I'm looking at his mug shot at it tears to be in his thirties or forties. Maybe it's hard to tell because he's he's had a hard life. He's had a hard life. Like if all the things to go digital and all the things to go trending, is I got arrested for punting on a chicken and now I got a mug shot. Yeah, that is what a way to go down. Yeah, oh my gosh, and that great. Yeah, that's that's fucking That is that

is up there with embarrassing. Now, if you had, if you had any listeners that would do such a thing, can you name or can you identify with one that would consider doing something like this? Angry Bill? Yeah, yeah, I mean that's all Angry Bill. He's a loon. He would do that. He would absolutely kick a chicken, live chicken. He would kick a dog, he'd kick a cow, he'd kick a horse, zebra, you name it, go down the list. And rhyo. I don't know if you kick a rhino

because that would come back and kick his asp. But yeah, there's something just imagine this would have gone viral had he had he kicked a dog. He kicks a dog. This thing is viral and game on like he done. Like that woman that woman in was it Central Park in New York earlier in the week, who uh strangling the her dog while she was Yeah, And then the guy in Philadelphia through his headphones they get it an argument,

the radio guy in Philadelphia and then that whole thing. Uh, here's one I bass Pro fisher fisherman in Florida, Tank Copper popped up on the news. He told the police to stop trying to catch him. Trump, stop trying so hard to catch Hipparently, Uh, it's the guys facing felony criminal mischief charges after bass Pro said it cost three thousand dollars to decontaminate the fish tank that this guy was was messing around in. He was filmed jumping into the bass Pro shops fish tank. You've been to a

bass Pro shop, right? Those things are awesome. Those are amazing stores. I mean that is like going to Disneyland. The bass Pro shop. He got everything you want. You got guns, fishing, knives, you name it. And so this guy he he popped up on Facebook originally Florida man and he was taunting the authorities, telling them he'd turned himself in when he was ready. And again he's facing felony criminal mischief charges for this is another wonderfully for

for the best pro shop fishing tank. Uh that is that is outstanding. Jumping in that is that is just great. That is wonderful. Swan diving into a tank like I wonder if he had a statement of why he would do that in the first place, or if he did anything any harm to anyone, what would a good excuse be on that? What would a good excuse be on that? I don't know. The only thing I can say is either he was on drugs, or he was drinking, or

he just thought he could get away with it. He was because you get people, you get kids like millennials, well the generation z s that will do stupid ship like a trend a month ago where two months ago, as you get these guys on TikTok that would start licking toilets, they do like the coronavirus. That's the stupid It's like, hey, let me go viral. Let me lick this toilet to see if I get coronavirus. And then banging.

Four days later you get crown of virus. So, um, maybe he was trying to go viral at that and went wrong. Yeah, it's it's possible. I don't know. There's not a lot to this year. There's just pretty basic. He's hired a lawyer and he's fighting. You know, it's a tough one to fight that. I don't know what your defense is. You just really hot and you needed some water. You were hungry. So the fish look good. The fish was flirting with you, and I don't know.

Here's a Florida woman's story here. This is a good one, and we go now to let's see central Florida. We're deputies. There's gave chase to a topless woman shoplifting suspect who made her getaway on a bicycle. Uh, it's thirty two year old one. She looks like she's fifty five. She's apparently done a lot of heroin. I'm looking at her mug shot here and right, not not good. There. Did not go very well anyway, She got stopped. Eventually she tried to pedal past, and she was stealing flip flops

of all the all the things. She also had a T shirt twenty five dollar T shirt and she was charged with retail theft resisting arrest without violence. But again, the key part of that topless shoplifting female there, because if you're gonna go shoplifting, if you're a lady, you do not wear your shirt. Let the boobies free, let

him go free, let him fly. Now, if she's aged, like you said, as like a fifty year old and she's thirty two, that's probably not a good sight to see, unless, of course you're like in southern California, because then you know you're probably a little handsd um. Yeah. No, this is not this is not easy on the eyes. This is not not great. This is not something you want framed in the Mallard studio. Correct, Yes, I think one, maybe one more. We have time for one more quick

one here naked Florida man. So we had naked Florida woman or topless Florida when we now we have naked Florida man. Uh In. A suspect, while naked, vandalized Miramar High in Miami. The entire day this guy was going around naked, must have been on the bass salts. They say he left a hundred thousand dollars a naked manament's an entire day vandalizing high school in Miami and a hundred thousand dollars in damage. So they have they're trying to identify this guy, and they sent out a photo

of him. Bob is just they just cropped off the bottom part, just the head headpart. But he he was wearing headphones. He was he was wearing headphones, so he wasn't totally naked. At least he had some even maybe listening to some tunes, you know, enjoying some tunes. You don't have been better too, as if he was wearing headphones and he was holding one of those old school

cassette players. Yeah, well these headphones, you know how a lot of the new headphones are wireless and they're small and you can barely see them in your These are like the kind you know when you go to the airport and the people like pointing at the planes which direction there, Like those size headphones are massive. That's uh, it's a good look. Thousand dollars to a high school, that's a lot. Yeah, how about the fact he was doing it all day and they don't they have us

like a security system at the school. They like look let them know that stuff's going on, don't they have that? Are just the community watched? Like you've got to be hearing something that's going on, right unless he's in the school buildings and causing damage to the desks, into the windows and maybe to plumbing. Yeah, but those those schools usually will have an alarmed system that's tied into the doors either way, so fire departments should be alarmed or

or the police at least. That's that's unbelievable. It's pretty wild, all right, And we'll put the baby to bed now and we don't worry. Got podcast on Saturday, another podcast on Sunday as well. A lot of email, and if you want to follow us on social media, that would be pretty cool. You can email the show Real Fifth

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