Cancelled

another weekend edition of The Fifth Hour. Welcome to your Saturday here, and we thank you wherever you are for downloading, subscribing, and being loyal to the Fifth Hour podcast here eight days a week, four hours not enough, as we are in the air everywhere the vast power of podcasting. And right over there he's he's actually wearing clothes today, David Gascon, Are you clopping for yourself? What a duck. I'm excited. Man Um shaved off most of the beard, got a haircut.

I have this great stash that I must brag about because I really don't grow a mustache too well. It's uh, it's majestic, it's beautiful. It's everything that you thought it would be, and it is. It's not really like you to be narcissistic, and I agree. I agree, it's rare for you. It's out of your comfort zone. I know you're pretty self deprecating. That's usually how you. I just

finished another book and it made me think about you. Um. It's a book by Steve Steve Martin, the comedian, and it's called Born Standing Up and the opening chapter, on one of his lines says that stand up comedy on a stage by yourself is the egos last stand. And I thought, like, damn, that's just like ben like the environment that you're in right now. You're almost like a pinata at times, or you have been over the last week,

week and a half. You're you're taking on you're taking on water random fire from I'm Coming Bogie's and you learn also friendly fire, friendly fire, which we will address you. I've been attacked by my own staff that don't agree with my beliefs, and uh it's wild, you know. I I was really just kind of just my head was spinning.

I was like, how did I end up on a spot like I listened to these other shows sometimes and they're the people they work with are like so supportive and they really try to make them sound great and I'm like, like, how the how the fund did I end up in a position where my own staff is attacking me and then celebrating it. It is wild and getting away with it. It is just insanity. It's like what Vince Kelly said at the end of Game six. Your staff is alive and they are well and clearly

don't mind me. You know, they don't think anything of it. I I was suddenly like, I'm trying to put myself how I relate to that? When I remember when I was early in the business, and you know, I was so worried about, um, you know, being being looked at the right way, being accountable and trying to do the right thing, you know, and trying to you know, pump up if I was. I did produce some radio shows early on, and I was a sidekick, and I always always tried to see how could I help the host

sound better. Um, now some of the people I work with are trying to make me sound worse when she's uh, it's bad enough, you've got to fight the callers. They're idiots that call up, But then then you gotta fight the people you work with. It's uh, it's insane. It was a very interesting, eye opening experience, but not not somebody. You know. I've kidded around a lot about the Bennetts, and I've talked about you know, like the Dan Dan Patricks surrounded by people that just lick and just you know,

give them bubble bass and all that. I don't really need that. I'm not really looking for that. But I'm also not looking to be attacked while I'm while I'm doing my job. I don't don't need that either. But but but so be it. So I actually wanted to talk kind of about that because I did get into a battle with one of the people I work with about the the cancel culture which is out there, and I just I think it's ridiculous that to me, the there's so many bad parts to cancel culture. I guess

we'll start with this here on the podcast. Uh, from the fact that there's no conversation, right, it just destroys conversation. If you cancel someone you don't agree with, you don't have it back and forth. And and again, maybe it's just a byproduct of how I was raised. And I've told the story. My mom was liberal, my dad conservative, and they would debate the issues of the day at

the dinner dinner table. And by the way, my mom would often win because my dad would let me and my mom went, but they would they would go back and forth, and then it was fine, we just go watch TV or whatever, and that was it. And and so they heard the other side, they disagreed, and then that was it. And now, uh, there's no there's no empathy at all for that right. That is gone. And people only want to be unchallenged. And they believe. The other thing is they think they have the im moral

high ground on everything. And uh, and I don't agree with that. I don't agree with, you know, tearing down statues and getting rid of um things in general. I just think and certainly people more than I debate certain symbols and things like that. Um, But to cancel a human being because they take a particular viewpoint, And how can society succeed, at least a society you would want to live in. I mean, certainly there are countries where that is the the way that they do things. That's

not a place I would want to live. That's not a place I would even want to visit. Um. And you know, I know, the whole free speech thing in the first Amendment covers only speech against the government. But I mean, and I think we're on the same page on this guest gun, that we're reading out of the same playbook, that you should have the freedom to express

opinions that are not the same. I mean I personally, and I don't know how you feel about this, but I don't like talking to people that always agree with everything I say. And part of the reason for that is just education wise, opinion wise, no individuals the same as another, So I always I'm always looking to hear or gain insight, or to get a better understanding of what the other person sees, feels, thanks or is looking towards.

And my biggest concern now is that you have individuals and not naming anyone specifically, but people that are tweeting out things from their own personal accounts or a Facebook account or a webcast or whatever it may be, and god forbid, it's different from whatever their company views. And then all of a sudden, they're getting fired and the people are getting terminated because they have their own personal

opinions on their own personal platforms. And then you get the mob that comes after you, or it comes after the employer, and then you're chopped at the knees, and so I am fascinated by it. But I'm not surprised because a lot of this, and I think the majority of people will agree with me on this, is that

this is all based on emotion. Where do you get not a lot of information, but you get people pressing at you with emotional hot topics that are so inflammatory that people are so quick to respond, And it's instant. It's instant, and it's never about processing it and diagnosing what the actual facts or what the story is behind everything that's going on to the forefront. Well, yeah, it's it's the word is discourse, right, you should have some discourse.

You should invite that in your life. That's a life well lived. You hear different, then you decide right, And maybe you shouldn't be so bullheaded that you can't change your mind on things. That's not what I'm I'm saying at all, but that is what's going on. Right, You've made your mind up, you're on your team. You know, it's you're on this side of the aisle or you're on that side of the aisle. But when you stop talking to people that disagree with you, there's no room

for growth. When you start, you just shut them down and you're like society in general, right there needs to be you know, people talk about diversity, that's a big term these days, but intellectual diversity um is also something that leads to society getting better, not worse, at least the way I see it through my eyes. And you might disagree with that you're listening, but it's just it's one.

It's the echo chamber. What I've experienced over the last well a few weeks, probably longer than that even, but it's been highlight in the last couple of weeks is the the divided echo chamber, where it's everything is distorted. I think that's the way to to say it. Everything is kind of distorted right now. And uh, it's just it is. It's poison. Cancel culture to me is poison. And I got attacked because I this Confederate flag. I'm

not from the South. I don't know anyone that owns a Confederate flag, but I do know people from the South, and some of them are not. They're not all racist. Everyone with a brad a brush the same. There there are people that believe that that's just you know, southern, southern pride or whatever. That's their their thing. Not to me. They're not coming at it as a racist. They that's

just the roots of the South. And you know who the hell cares if you If you think that's a racist signal, well, okay, anytime someone puts that up, then you can say that's a racist over the or they've got the flag up. But to cancel. The other thing too about the cancel culture is once you cancel something, it in many ways becomes more valuable, right or people look to it they're like, well, you're canceling it. But just in general, I mean that's a that's a sidebar,

but just in general. Um, it's when you a race history or you know it, uh, and you're doomed often to repeat it. Right. I believe that to be true. I believe that to be true. And you you end up as a culture eating yourself alive when that takes place, and it's beginning to happen, I mean, the uh, the Civil War was was a long time ago, but it wasn't that long ago. And the conversation, you know, I've been to Gettysburg. I was at the museum at Gettysburg, and and and are they are we gonna get rid

of those two because the reminders of what happened. I mean, how far do you go? Where's the line that that is drawn? And who's drawing the line on that stuff? Yea was the question I was gonna ask you is when is enough going to be enough? And it doesn't matter if you're a right winger, a left winger, somewhere in between, because eventually it's like a virus and eventually it'll eat everything up and eat it alive. And that's

the part that we're living in right now. You can go to anything you've been to get his bird, like you mentioned, But the most powering moment for me, taking from a textbook and saw in real life, was going to the concentration camps. You can go and you can talk about so many different things with world history, U

S history, whatever it may be. But aschwitzen Berken, now there was nothing like it, but to think that you have to get away from it or rid it because of its past, Like there are the lumps that you take and you don't wipe it away. You use it to build on. It's like a scar that obviously you will never be fully healed, but you use it as a reminder of what was and what is now. And so like going back to Colin Kaepernick, I think of

it as as vegetables were. You know back in the day when I was a kid, I hated vegetables, But you learn to like it or you literally least have it because it's it's good for you. It's healthy for you. So his protests, while I might not have liked it, I completely understand and I was totally acceptable of it.

Now it was a little bit different where I felt like his message was misconstrued when all of a sudden, he's wearing socks that that you know, dignified cops as being pigs, or Fidel Castro's shirt, like, I feel like the message after that was just it was watered down and deluded. Where his original intent was one thing and

it was strong and powerful. But then when you piggyback off of that with different messages about cops in general, a sweeping statement, or communists in a foreign land, I think that, really, I think it waters down your original message. But going back to him, you know, with what he did initially with San Francisco, HAD had absolutely zero problem with it. I had zero problems with what people were doing with the Women's March or the marches for for George Floyd, whether it's in d C. Or New York

or or Minneapolis. But then when it turns physical, and then it turns into where you're just trashing these cities, trashing and shooting at cops or civilians because you want to have a right to protest. I think that really escapes from what your original intent should have been or was. Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Yeah,

it's like, you know, giving statues in general. You know, you can say, well, no one should get a statue because really, when you peel back the onion on statues, no one is pure. And it's like the centers in the Saints, right, people are part saint and part center, and uh, you know, and there's in what's offensive. The one person might not be offensive to the next person.

So depending on how you know, small minded or narrow minded, myopic you are, if you will, you might think something is it's like tomato, tomato, potato, potato, right, right, I mean, for one person, this is horrible whatever whatever issue it is, and the other person's like, I don't even care. I don't put any value in that. So it really depends

on who's defining it. And as far as like my my experience, one of my my good friends who worked at Fox Sports Radio, who is I consider a radical extremist for the Liberal party is Tom Looney, um, and he's outspoken, right, and he I think he likes a lot of the descent that is happening right now. But we we talk and we uh, we go by. We text a lot these days. We go back and forth, and uh, I love Loon. I think Loon is great. I love working with him, and I think he feels

the same way about me. But uh, but you know, we don't agree about that. But is that that is allowed? But I guess in the society as a whole, you can't do it. You have to cancel it. And it really goes back to something we used to mock a couple of years ago, guests on the micro aggression crowd. This is a byproduct of that, right, this is the byproduct of the triggered snowflake hipster. It's what it is, right, because you you need to be safe right, Different opinions

don't make you feel safe. They they they challenge your beliefs, and so therefore you have to get rid of them because you need to go back to your safe space. You need trigger warnings. It's the continually offended mob, which is big given power, which is from where I said, not a good thing. Apparently other people seem to enjoy it because the mob is running unchecked with with their pitchforks, their cyber pitchforks and their cyber torches, and they're going

around That actually leads us into a story. I mentioned this with Jerry Callahan on yesterday's podcast. I usually wanted to get into it more on what kind of bullshit Twitter actually is. You know, now, I'm on Twitter and I've I've been attacked a few times, but I've I've tried to cut back the last a few weeks on how much I'm on Twitter because I don't really I don't put as much value into as you used to. It's I had it's been an eye opening experience here

the last last couple of weeks. But did you see that Pew study on the actual impact of Twitter? Did you see this guest going a little bit of it. And I know you highlighted up with Jerry yesterday. Yeah, so, so this is very interesting. So there were results of the there's a Pew study that found that this is wild. I mentioned this with Jerry. Maybe you didn't pay attention to it because most people don't pay attention to everything.

We say. So, uh, the top ten percent of people that are on Twitter, the top ten percent of users tweeters, if you will, are responsible for eighty percent of the content created in the United States by adults. Now think about that. Think about that. First of all, you break down the numbers, right, you peel everything back. You're like, okay, so not everyone's on Twitter. The people that are on Twitter,

most of them aren't that active. Some people check it maybe once a week, if that, maybe a couple of

times a month total um. And the other thing about this, which was interesting from the Pew studies that the Twitter user is much younger than the average US adult and more likely to be democratic, according to the Pew study, And so the takeaway from that, the only logical takeaway from that would be that a reaction that goes viral on Twitter, whether it be something you agree with or something you don't agree with does not actually represent the

sentiment of the general population in the United States. But yet major companies who are covering their buttocks every day because of a Twitter mob. They treat this like the Holy Grail. They treat this like the Gospel. And you know, it's it's it's it's really one of those things where you look at your just your head spinning. Here and again, I gotta highlight that this Pew study showed that a very small fraction of people on Twitter are actually responsible

for four out of every five tweets. And I was talking to a buddy mine and radio uh that that's in you know, somewhere I'm gonna say where I don't get to get in trouble. But we were talking back and forth, and he brought up a point that that there's so many bots on Twitter that it's conceivable that a couple of people with access to the bot army, would you know, they're they're leading the continually offensive mob and all that they could literally get someone canceled with

just a couple of people. But it makes it seem right perception versus reality. The perception is there's thousands of people that are upset with celebrity X. But in reality, it's three people that have mastered the algorithms of Twitter and know how to send an army of bots to attack and then sure enough, like the Breakfast Cereal Snap Crackle Pop, goes the celebrity and they're dead. There, They're they're ended. It's it's so so ridunculous. But it's the

thing about Twitter. And I've used this analogy on the radio show and I think it applies here. It's it's not the you know, the legend becomes the fact that one. This is more the tinker Bell effect, which is a similar thing. Right, if enough people believe hard enough that the Twitter mob is exists and they're real, they do right. And but yet you look at the actual research which looks at this and says it's bullshit. Of the content comes from ten percent of the people. But yet no, no,

it's real. It's it's the tinker Bell effect because it must be real because enough people believe the mob is really. Yeah, this kind of leads me to what I was thinking. Whether it's for Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, whatever it may be,

or news outlets around the globe, there's no accountability. So if you provide any kind of content, any information outside of of being suit for liabel like, there's no there's no pushback, there's no accountabilities, So you can say or or publish whatever kind of information you want and people

will eat it up. And obviously there's no age requirement for for Twitter and the social media accounts, so when you come on there, you are easily influenced if you're believe in one thing or another, or if you are a young person that just doesn't have that kind of background or education and you don't know any better, so you fall into that state where there's as of now, there's one point three billion Twitter accounts that are out there in the world out of seven and a half

eight billion people in this world. So yeah, it's is he. But when you think about the way that influencers work and the way that advertising dollars work and the money that's involved, people are making so much money on Instagram and on Twitter and on YouTube that they will tell the company line to better themselves and until something deadly or or diabolical happens to that individual, do they care.

The answer is more often not know. Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven p m. Pacific. Yeah, and it's the it's it's like I remember when I was in college, not that I paid much attention it saddleback, but I remember at a professor that talked about television and how it's able to manipulate the mind, you know, and and the same many of those same things are involved in

social media. When you get on social media on your phone and you think this is the real world, you think this is a representation of the real world. Is not. And it's also kind of like a little bit like how you know, how the casinos do it where you hear the sounds of the slot machines and the jackpots and it kind of sucks you into gamble more at the casino and they don't put clocks in the casino and they do all these little mine mine tricks that

gets you to stay in the casino longer and gamble. Well, social media does that too, with the the everyone wants to get clout on social media who's on there, and so your notifications on Twitter, right, Actually that's a big thing, you know, and you get a message on your phone, you've got notifications that you go back to look it's like you go back and check out your notifications and all that, and it's it is really able to manipulate

the deal there. But anyway, all right, so just to kind of wrap up this part of the conversation, the mob attacks it is again perception, as I said, verse all right, the you think the entire country it was attacking Drew Brees for example, And I got a lot of people like, why are why does Drew Bries apologizing? The feedback I got from it, I feel like there's a silent group of people out there that actually still have common sense and still get what the world's really

about here and are open to dialogue and whatnot. But they've they've been marginalized and they've been pushed aside. And we'll see how many of those people are out there, I guess we'll find out in the coming months and as the Year of the Apocalypse continues. But just a small group of extremists that have figured out the algorithms can coordinate an attack, a cyber mob attack against an individual, and the companies haven't figured out that it might be bullshit.

It might be bullshit, and it's crazy. I'm fascinating to By the way, that the the environment that we're in right now, because I think it's low hanging fruit, much like football. Right Like, if you are in sports, I think you'd with me that most people will gravitate towards football as broadcasters because it's the easiest sport for you to comment on, not necessarily basketball, not necessarily baseball, and

not hockeys. Certainly football is that the immediate gratification you get seventeen weeks plus postseason, or college football the same thing, like eleven twelve weeks and then bowl games. But everybody likes football compared to the other sports. And I feel like in this environment, it is so easy to attack, and it doesn't matter who it is. You know, people attacked people attack Trump, people attacked Obama, people attacked Bush

before that and before that was Clinton whatnot. But I think it's so easy to go all the way up high to the food chain in our government. But people fail to recognize, Hey, why don't you deal with what you got in your own backyard, your representatives in your

local area, your mayors, your governors, the Senator. Like there's just so many people, especially to state like California or Texas or New York or Florida, that you need to look at, like the elected officials in your area first before you think about going all the way up, because there's a lot of things that you can take care of at a municipal level as opposed to going at a federal level. And I think that gets lost in the general public. Well, it's not it's not sexy. I mean,

it's not. I mean right, I mean, your local city council person isn't sexy. Your local mayor isn't sexy until your mayor decides to let a police station burn. In Minnesota, how that fund did that guy get elected mayor? My god, Mike and all those the city council people get rid of the police and I mean, it's unbelievable these people got voted in the office. I mean, I I have a lot, we have a lot of fans of the show in Minnesota where it seemed like just wonderful, reasonable

people like how the hell does that slip past the goaltender? Me? How how does that get through? I just it's amazing that that could happen. And you look at some of the stuff, you know, I love Seattle too, was in Seattle last year. It's a it's a really cool city. It's I love the vibe and Seattle. But I mean you allow your city to be taken over, to have a to have a sovereign a few blocks of the city. I mean, it's just it's just you try to you

try to think about that as a rational person. You're like, it just it's it's nuts. Yeah, it's man, I don't know, you just you hope obviously cooler heads will prevail. But at the same time, everyone's gonna be accountable for their own actions, right, Like, I don't need or want someone talking down at me or telling me like this is what you gotta do, or you should act like this, or you should feel like that, or you need to do this, or you need to do that. Take care

of your fucking own business before everybody else. Well, that's that's a big part of the part. I mean, you've really late. You've hit the nail on the head there, because the reality is I think that's the big thing. Everyone there's like playing the victim. People love to be the victim, whatever the circumstances. I'm the victim, right, I'm the victim. I you know that. There's like that gets you cloud being a victim. You know, I'm not that

old like thing. Maybe I am now, I don't know, but I was not raised that way where you know I was, you know, I was raised as as I think you were similarly. Guests gun that you be accountable for your actions, right, and you do, like I always bring up the Code of the West quite a bit, you know, And uh, and that's that's an important thing that you know, you leave live each day with courage, you take pride in your work, You finish what you start,

you do what has to be done right. You get those kind of of tenements in the in the code away, which I think is a good way to live your life. But now it's like, no, I'm the victim. I'm you know, I'm not in control of my life. These evil people are leading me astray. And uh, such a defeatist attitude.

It is such a defeatist attitude. It's it is. I think the one thing that I was fortunate to have growing up and and even becoming an adult was that the luxury of playing athletic sports like at the at the college level, you know, high school, the whole whole nine yards. But I was taught two things like one you need to take care of yourself and too, if you're not picking up the slack, you're either one gonna get replaced or two you're gonna get your ass kicked.

So like I became a better athlete by being smaller and not as strong and getting my ass kicked until I learned to get myself up, train harder, workout harder, and become smarter at how I was applying my craft and at the college level too, Like I, there was countless times I'd go into a game strap up and I'd see some dude as a defensive tackle ben and the guys like six ft two, six ft three calves bigger than my arms to eight two ninety, and I'm like,

I'm gonna get my fucking ass ruined right now. And then I'd out working with better technique. And you know, in a game like football or baseball or whatever it is, it doesn't matter your skin color, your sexual orientation, your creed, whatever it is, because the word board tells tells the tale, and whether you have eleven guys on the field at once or not, Like that's the That's the luxury I had because it didn't matter where we're from or what

we did. We all came together for the same common goal, and that was to win and beat the ship out of somebody else in the process. Yeah, yeah, totally, totally. Uh that's and it's when you peel everything back to the bedrock of sports, right, that's what it is. Right. They always talk about the people who love sports, talking about the what's the word I'm thinking of here? Uh? Boys, see,

it's it's weird. We're recording this podcast early in the day, which is which is uh, which is odd for me to be be away, but but no, the the assimilation that takes place and the fact that it's a meritocracy,

that's the word. I was like, it's a meritocracy, right that it doesn't really matter your background if you're from the good part of town or the bad, like you being west of the four oh five me from east of the four oh you know, it's it's it's you know, you have the same common goal and you fight for

that and that's just the way it is. And uh, it's but it's wild though because even here, like most people don't know this, but here locally, I know you're aware, but like some of the powerhouse high schools in the area that bring out some of the best talent in all of college football. Our modern day St. John Bosco, Orange Lutheran UM schools in the Orange County or in Los Angeles. But they have kids that if they don't see time right away, they fucking transferred to another high school.

Like we're talking about high school kids that are acting like free agents to go to another high school. And then when you get to college, then all of a sudden, if you get no plane time, then what do you do. You fucking transfer out again, Like there's no there's no accountability to use you an individual to outperform and outwork somebody. You just go somewhere else where you can see greener grass. Hopefully be sure to catch live editions of the Ben

Maller Show weeks Pacific. Yeah, it's take the easy road, Take the easier road. And I remember we were doing that high school football game, wasn't there one one of the quarterbacks had been like three high schools or something

like that, and it's like, jeez school, yeah yeah. And the other I want to go back to the Twitter attack thing because the other thing that that Pew study determined was that even in the eye of the storm, the storm doesn't last very long, Like the news cycle isn't even twenty four hours, like because a day later, the mob has moved on to the to the next target. Right, they shift their focus. They don't stay on a target

for more than than a day or so. And the Keyboard Warriors, if you just you know, show some rhino skin and defend, if you're an advertiser, a big media company, defend your people, defend your your employee, then you're being better situation. But that that is also people. They get stampeded, right, that's what happened. So so when when you had that, when you had that kind of discourse on the air earlier this week with Coop, Yeah, like what did you like?

What sets you off? Or I guess what set him off? Like why was there such a big conflict outside of well, I mean it's because I again, I was raised where you don't cancel stuff you don't like Coop then thought he was raised. He likes he wants to cancel everything, and he's totally in lockstep with the current online community of you know, everything's racist, get rid of everything and

and all that. And so we were talking about the NASCAR store and I was like well, I think it was Brad Keslowski who came out and made some comments. He's like, listen, I don't I don't really care about the flag and I don't uh it's not important to me or whatever. And I don't I don't honor the FO, but I don't think it should be you know, outlawed or whatever, because it's some people that feel differently about it and they're not racist or whatever. It's something along those.

I'm paraphrasing a lot of this, but so I agree with Brad Kislowski. Um. And then Coop got all the set and then of course he he blindside of me because I was taught I wasn't talking to him, and he chimed in and he started getting into this and then uh talking with the liberal talking points and all that. Uh and uh so he's, oh, what about what about?

You know? He always and there's a phrase that I brought up on the air, because you know, when you've lost the argument when you go to the Nazi to the Hitler cart and and now he he went right

to to that situation. Goodwins law. Um. And if you don't know what Goodwin's law is, it's the first person that in a conversation, if conversation goes long enough, the theory is that someone will bring up either Hitler or the Nazis, and whoever brings that up has lost the argument, right, and you can't respect that person because they have to resort to the worst mass murdering dictator in the history of the world, which means you have no better argument

than that. Right, you have no better argument than that. Once you have a comparison to a Nazi or Hitler, the debate is done. Right if if you've mentioned either Hitler or the Nazis, you have automatically lost whatever conversation you're having. I mean, that's just that's it. So it's called Goodwin's law and it's uh coop violet it. But ye honest, I don't agree that. Obviously NASCAR did it. I wonder if NASCAR is going to actually feel a hit on that and how are they going to enforce it? Though.

That's the other thing, because people wear in the South, there are people that wear the Confederate flag on shirts and hats. Are they gonna band shirts and hats that have the Confederate flag? And I imagine a scenario when things get back to normal, and there's tailgating, which is a big part of the NASCAR exp variance is to go out there. It's a three day event and you're just out there drinking beer all day and barbecuing, and

then you go watch the race. What are they gonna do if somebody raises up a Confederate flag above their RV at Talladega? Is NASCAR gonna actually enforce that? Is actually police able to enforce that? And what happens? You know, if you want to go down the rabbit hole? Um, you know the cliche of the redneck NASCAR fan is that they've got guns, right, so are you're gonna then you see some guy go to his pickup truck get a shotgun out, and then you gonna have a confrontation

because of that. Is that where we're gonna get? I don't know, that's wild. I know earlier this week they had a race in Martinsville and that was right after NASCAR declared no more Confederate flags. But I saw a viewership was up on FS one. I think it was

like a hundred three or a hundred four percent. So I wonder how the the viewership will be because don't forget you mentioned NASCAR, but this is gonna carry over to the National football like and college football too, no matter what your stances on it or not, like you're gonna have more protests or you're gonna have more people do things if the national anthem still played before kickoff. And so I'm fascinated by that. I do think it's

really challenging. I'm surprised you guys did this, but I think it's really a difficult spot for you and Coope and Roberto and added to be on on the show because you have your blocks of time. You gotta get in and get the hell out. So it's not like you can have too much nuanced conversation because then all of a sudden you gonna pivot go somewhere else. Yeah, I mean we well, you know, the monologues I do.

I can do ten twelve minutes probably, and then I sometimes I go longer than that when I'm not supposed to. But that's supposed to be like ten twelve, thirteen minutes at the most. And then the rest of the show is just a lot of like a couple of minutes on this, couple of minutes on that, onto the next thing, and just keep it it's like a juggling. You gotta keep it, keep it juggling, all right. So let's move on from Yes, there's other things. Uh, we've got studying

survey of this, we have that. We also have pop quiz, which I like. We're getting a little along in the in the tooth on this one. Let's go do why don't we do to Twitter? I'll go back to Twitter because they did you see this? They are testing a new feature that will recommend reading an article before sharing it.

It's according to a statement made by the company. The feature is being tested on Android devices right now and will prompt users asking if they'd like to open the article before they share it if you haven't opened the article on Twitter, that's a good idea. I like it because it sends you to a third party. The only reason I wouldn't like it is more on than not.

When you get articles from a news publication now, you're either required to register for their for their article and for their site, or you have to pay a subscription cost, which the paywall. Yeah, the paywall pall. It gives you like a quick paragraph or two and then it cuts you off. I'm not downing well. I like the idea

of it. I think the idea of it is good because there's a lot of people that just comment and just see the headline and then they react to it, and then they have a hot take and then they you know, that's how it goes. But the other thing is that that is what social media is about, right, overreacting two things that you don't need to overreact to based on one sentence. That's the whole concept of Twitter. Right.

They limited at a hundred eight characters. Well, if you really wanted more dialogue, wouldn't you allow more than a characters? Wouldn't that be true? Right, because otherwise you're limiting the dialogue. So anyway, all right, study and survey these batteries. These are actual studies, real or bullshit. We determine tribute a homage dependent teller batteries charged by humidity. Water vapor emerges

as a strong source of renewable energy. So they're they're claiming that just by water vapor they can turn that into to electricity. Uh. Now, you think based on the planet, most of the planet is water. If you could turn salt water into energy, then we're good to go. Right, We're set up. We're this would be a wonderful thing, which true. But the other, the other factor is that how much how much time and effort does it take

to do that? Because I know, uh, there's a group out of Israel that was trying to figure out and they did figure out a way to turn salt water into drinkable water. But the amount of time and the amount of money that it costs, they haven't been able to get that down low enough where it makes sense on a long wide basis. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, you mentioned the humidity in this. Is this your sneaky way of bringing in Florida man, since this is probably

working great in Florida. You know, I didn't see too many Florida man stories. I only saw I saw a couple of them. There was we were the two. The two that I saw. I saw it was a Florida politician who was running for county commissioner. He a couple of years ago had been charged with running a brothel and he but now he gets he got through all his legal troubles, so now he wants his job back

as a politician. That's a Florida man. Uh. The other Florida man story I saw was a guy facing felony charges because police claim that he let a twelve year old girl drive his SUV and told her to speed because he said to the police he wanted to be a cool father. Now, the funniest part about the story, guestscan, is this person was not the father. He was not the dad of the twelve year old girl. So so that's uh, that's that. Those are my two Florida Man

stories for the week, right there. How about this? H what out of out of five people? So, I guess we'll do the percentage it's based on five people. How many out of five people have ended a relationship because of a partner's bathroom habits? Um, I guess I'll go to Uh it's it's less than that. It's one. One out of five people, according to this survey, have actually any day relationship with someone they were sleeping with because their partner. I guess what would bad bathroom p on

the toilet? That would be one, right? What's hair everywhere from a female? Yeah? Yeah, you could leave makeup all over the place. Uh sure, yeah, I don't. I don't really require much of my my bathroom. So but yeah, I've the Mallard mansion does it have dual sinks, is it or is it a one? I wanted that when we moved in here. I told sorry with my wife. I was like, hey, listen, you know we need double vanity sinks. Uh no, we have no no vanity sinks

in here. And I've got like one one bathroom that's that's mine, and then uh that's you know, well you've got so you've got to vanity rooms. Because I see that you have a nicely decorated studio. Now all of a sudden, it's just yeah, you can come in with a Honda and all of a sudden you're driving around acendes in your studio, which is bullshit. You got a bunker, that hunker and bunker and the studio guests gun and it's gonna be here for a while. I think I

might just stay here. At this point, an attacked by my staff, I might not go fat. I'll just stay here. It's it's my safe place. Guess what it is like. You don't have to worry about that, all right, more studies here. Smile for your stomach. Study out says happiness. May that's a weezel word. May guard against deadly gut infections.

So I don't know if I buy this, and I mean, I guess if you're happy in general, that is that that seems like a good place to be in, right, you get if you're not happy, you could really be sick to your stomach. I guess it is the lesson of that, yeah, because it leads to stress, it leads to ulcers, and obviously, when those things happen to you, you could be stress eating, stress, drinking, stress smoking, like whatever your bad vices are. That that obviously I think

comes to the forefront. And then uh, you kick the can down the road and those habits become something more deadly for you. I believe. Whatever said I last weekend, when I us on a couple of shows at Fox Sports Radio, I had a moment like that where you're listening, you're a part of two shows that are running for seven hours, eight hours out of the day, and then you're watching the news. It's like a giant hangover or like just a bad nightmare because all the information you're

hearing and seeing and watching is all dark. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports radio dot com and within the I Heart radio app search f s R to listen live. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. You do need to get your mind as I go with these these walks now, because I'm not going back to the gym because Funk the gym and all their restrictions. It's just not for me. It's not open twenty four hours anymore. I'm done, I'm out. You're not getting my

money anymore. Go pound sand with a rubber mallet. You're not getting a dollar of my money. I'll just walk around in a hundred degree weather. I don't care. But when I'm walking around, I got y'all have some tunes on or whatever, and it's kind uh it's like my my therapy. I'll get out there, let my mind get away from all the madness of the world that's going

on right now. So alright, uh, the dating game. This, I feel like we've gotten a version of this study multiple times since we started study this, and this one says that playing hard to get really works. A new study confirming that guest on that if you're for both both sexes is usually it's the woman that's supposed to play hard to get right the cat and mouse game, but even for men that women often like that also that if a guy kind of plays hard to get

the ladies like that as well. Yeah, I wonder how much that's in in play right now with COVID nineteen and the coronavirus. I have heard stories of guys going to these protests to pick up ladies. So that's uh. I don't know if that works or not. I don't know how successful that is, but I have heard from friends that they've gone out there with the sole intention of trying to find a girlfriend. Yeah, it's like it's like wedding cry shows, right, there was a part in

wedding crashers were Will Ferrell would crash a funeral. Yeah yeah, oh yeah, sure, you're going to this and emotions are high. He was a legend. He taught He taught Vince Vaughan and the other guy there to how to how to do it. Yeah, that's pretty good. Sure, all right. Here's another study outs as a majority of office workers think that artificial intelligence could that's a weasel word, replaced them within five years. Five years they could be replaced by

artificial intelligence. Now, I think intelligence. I think that's bullshit because I have read stories from people that work in the minutia of artificial intelligence, and there are limitations they have. There's they've they've reached a certain point with it, but they haven't been able to get over the hump, if you will. And until they're able to get over the hump, then I don't think that that is reality. I think

that's more fear based than not reality based. I I've heard from from p upon the voiceover industry that that's exactly where they're going. That it's easier to take any kind of voice an archive it, and then digitize it into a way that it can be adjusted to any kind of script that you want for the future. Yeah, well, I guess you could do that with radio than if you want, you can take that to the next level. Well, but there's no games of note to report on. I

see what you did there. How about this study? Artificial brains need sleep? Also, what the funk is this? Neutral networks that become unstable after continuous periods of self learning will return to stability, scientists have discovered after exposed to sleep sleep like states, according to a new study, suggesting that even artificial brains would need to nap occasionally. That's one of the interesting things about sleep like everyone sleeps.

Some people need more sleep than other people, But scientists don't really know why I human beings need to sleep. Well, part of it's the recovery. If your if your body itself, that's when muscles regenerate, that's when your cells regenerate. That you're talking about your skin, your hair, your stress levels, and people getting that's not a consensus though in the science community. That's that's one theory on why people need sleep. But why couldn't your body do that while you're doing

other things? Right? You know, it's like it's like fish still swim while they're sleeping, you know what I mean? Right, they shut their brain off and and that kind of thing. Why don't humans do that? You can shut your brain off for a little bit. And of course on social media people do shut their brains off. Does happen? So I want to get to pop quizzer. I don't get along, and this all right? We will get through pop quiz um.

We'll ask guescon questions. And the way this works, you're supposed to play along, supposed to play along here it is pop quiz. According to a new survey of Americans say they now feel rusty while doing this because he stayed home over the past few months. The stay at home orders the pandemic. I guess it's kind of easy. I should have missed this one. What is driving that is correct, guest Gun. Yes, that many people haven't driven that much. I have not driven that much, guest Gun.

As you know, I'm very Boogie's Mallar mansion. The newly decorated radio studio here, which looks people think I'm at work. I've hadden people saying you must be back at work. I'm not. I mean, I'm not back at the office. I'm working every night, but I'm not back at the office. I got Bella right next to me when I'm doing the show, and she's great. She doesn't bark. Occasionally she paused at me because she needs me to open the door so she can go out and take a whiz.

But other than that she's good. Yeah, I've been driving every day. Good luck on that. But I've been driving successfully to the beaches, to her, most Manhattan, everything west of the par five. And he just walked to the beach or west of the four five. I don't want to drive through like Torrance and and Loan. You don't want to when the unwashed, the peons live right. You don't want to hang out with those people, the common may it's a little bit different of a scene until

you get to Redondo or Hermosa Beach. But man, I could not believe, like running on the boardwalk, how many restaurants and bars were wide open, and people that were older than that's like fifties, sixties, seven years old out on the bars, having beers, having Dakiri's, having Martini's like the whole nine yards, and and eating too. They were just they were having a good time. So I went to a restaurant for the first time last week's Apocalypse

with my dad, had a little Mexican food. It was people were in mask, the people that worked their war mask. But it was other than the social distancing where you're at every other table. It was it was fine, it was good, nice. It was you know, I'm an every man. I'm I'm a regular guy. I'm not I hang out with the riff raft, i hang out with the vermin. You do not, you you stay away from them. You're

You're an elitist, that's what you are. You had dinner with your dad in the city of Newport Beach, save it. I was not in Newport, it was. It was actually in toused Him. Oh yeah, it's very blue collar. That's the hood. Yeah, when you're from Irvine, that's the hood. Absolutely, yeah. Alright. A new report says towels are the number one thing people look or took home from hotels in the United States over the last calendar year. What was number two?

Number two? Behind the towels, I'd say, like the shampoo or the conditioner in the soap. Now you would think that, and I thought that also. I thought maybe like a pillow or something ridiculous like that. But this is even more ridiculous. The number two things that people took from the hotel. No batteries from the remote control. How fucking cheap can people be where they steal the batteries out

of the remote control? You gotta be a fucking loser to do that, right, Yes, there's a lot of losers out there, guess gun, there's a lot of hungry puppies that are like, that's what I need right there. And more often than not, does that even fit your own remote control? Or does it fit a flashlight that you're using? Probably not well defending it's double a or triple A batteries are pretty much all over the place. Now that's standards, so, but but just the whole, like the mindset that neurosis

were like, Okay, these are some bodies. They weren't even noticed they're gone, which is actually probably true because if you go to a hotel, like if you clean, if you're somebody that cleans hotel rooms, are you taught to check to see if the batteries are still there? Of course not. You're like, no, they're gonna be there. What are we doing? All right? Pop quiz? More pop quiz. Here in England there's uh an appreciation society dedicated to something you might see along your travels. What is it

you've been to England? You should get this guy? I guess God, come on, can you repeat this one more time? So in in England they have a an actual appreciation society fully dedicated to something that you would see when you're driving around. But it's it's related to travels. Can't be an airport, Um, how could you want to go with the airport? I guess now you're wrong. It's roundabouts all right? Yeah, not a lot of roundabouts in Los Angeles. It's more like Boston has a few, the East part

of Boston and Indianapolis. They got a lot of roundabouts in Indianapolis. The LBC. Yeah, they don't hang out in the LBC much, you know, I do like I like that Rainbow Harbor. I think they torched that though. They I think the pillaging of the Rainbow Harbor they torched everything along. Yeah, it's pretty much all gone there. I guess something to go to Long Beach anymore. It's been canceled, all right, whether at home or at work. Slightly more

women than men do this every day. Uh use the bathroom. Well not all people have to use the bathroom, guess, yeah, but more women than men. Uh No. It is drink coffee. Drink coffee, so go to us. My wife's addicted to the to the coffee, to the crack. I'm not a not a coffee guy. I've been through that before. You like the coffee, you're about the coffee. No, have an espresso occasionally, but I usually drink energy drinks. All right.

A new survey is this pop Quist. New survey says the average American does this about twenty two times a day. What do they do? It's something in your house or are you. I guess you could do this at work too, but I think of this more of something something you would do it at the house. Go say, check your cell phone. Open the refrigerator, that's right, Open the refrigerator. I do I do not open I don't eat much these days, but I do not open the refrigerator twenty

two times of day. Maybe open it twice. And um, the the ice with us like ice machine and the refrigerator that broke like seven months ago and we just never got it fixed. So we have to make the ice with ice trays and like ice water because you actually burn calories when you're innk ice water because your body has to warm up the water whatever. So I drink ice water, and then so I have to like I'm always changing out the ice to get new ice, you know, and the big big things. That's the only

time I'm really in the refrigerator. Twenty two times. That's a lot of fucking time. What are you fucking looking for? I don't know. Are you eating twenty two times a day ice cream? Maybe? Well, I guess, I guess. How about three times a day you got to open the refrigerator to get food out, and then you gotta open it again to put it back. So that's six What what are the other sixteen times? Dessert? All right, so that's eight desserts. Eight do you dessert after breakfast, lunch,

and dinner? Um, if you're buying uh, if you're buying groceries. Yeah, but most people do that once a week. I don't know. I don't know a lot. I got you all right? Here we go pop quiz. About ten percent of people say that this is their number one, number one pet peeve at the gross restore. And this is also my pet peeve at the grocery store. So I'm in this ten percent group. Guests get The people that go into the fifteen items are less line and they have more

than fifteen. Uh. That is annoying, but that is not what this is. This is the overly chatty clerk. When I put my groceries down on that little revolving belt thing, I want to get the funk out of there. I you don't care about my life. I don't really care that much about you. I'm good. Can we move on? And then the other problem I have with that is it's not even so much me because I'll kind of blow off people that are like that if I'm not in the mood to have small talk, which I'm usually not.

Only occasionally do I like small talk. Um. The thing that I really hate is you get that you know, I use the Hollywood trope, you know, the kind of like lonely older woman who doesn't have anybody to talk to, who that is her social event talking to the grocery clerk and a simple process of just checking out turns into a half hour conversation and you're like, I just want to get out of there, leave me, please, just

scan the items, put the credit card in and we're done. Well, to be fair, are they losing any time and getting that stuff done while talking to you? Well, yes, because they're going. I feel like they go slower because they want they want to enjoy the conversation, and you know, do it on your own time, have a private conversation on your own time. Get a Facebook page, go on there and knock yourself out chit chat all right. Would you support a four day work week, guest, gun, Yeah,

I would. I actually used to work four days a week back in the day. I'm doing sales at worked ten hour days. I loved it. Yeah, my wife working at she does three days one week, four days the next, so she's got that kind of set up. And there was a new survey out this is eighty two of employed Americans. I think this is a good idea. I had that when I did weekends. I worked Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and then I did one floating day during the week.

When in the early days of Fox Sports Race, I had like a four day week, and I liked, Yeah, I mean, I don't mind the five day thing, but you know, I've got I mean four hours, but there's a lot of time that goes into preparing for the show, so it's not just four hours. I mean, I guess you could just show up and or I could tape it or whatever. Some people do that, but I like

doing it live. Yeah, I would love to. I mean, ideally, I'd love to be calling four games a week, especially if it's baseball or something, and that we're calling five games. That's a lot of charts. Though. Man, you played by play guys with all your fucking stats and all that his body work, Well it is, but I mean it's no different from what you do if your shows every night. Yeah,

it's busy. Body work till I admit that. But at least I try to entertain myself by you know, I like I'll like quote Aristotle or you know something or John D. Rockefeller or some ship like that. When I just try to dress it up for my for my own entertainment, because as I've said before, well I love doing sports radio, and it's fun and it's great. Oftentimes we're talking about the same bullshit every day. Like when

I say, here, here's a little clue. Because the people listen to this podcast are the big p ones of the show. So when I do a monologue and I say the obligatory, like I lately i've been doing the obligatory major League Baseball labor negotiations, that means I am fucking tired of talking about it. But it's you know, it's the job. We got to talk about it. It's the story of the day, so we have to talk about it. So like you know, these things, when I when I work in the obligatory, that is my way.

It's my silent protest of saying I wish I wasn't talking about this, but I gotta talk about it because that's the big story in sports. So I'll talk about it. It's like my you know, seven thousand Lebron James monologues, Like what the fuck? Who cares about this fucking guy? And then we keep talking about him because he gets ratings and that's he's in the news, and you know, the peasants like hearing about Lebron James. I guess the Holy Polo. I love him, So we just gotta keep

talking about those kind of thing. You sound very emotionally charged right now. I don't don't know why I got worked up by that, but it's been interesting. It's been interesting here. Maybe vacation. Maybe you do need to take someone. I have two unpaid weeks of vacation that I can take here at any point if I want. So I got that to look forward to, which is which is good? Eddie. Eddie's taking one next week, by the way, So that's kind of odd. Doesn't he usually do that during football season?

He said, during the NFL draft or or a football season. But yeah, I think I said this. I don't know if I said that this one or the other podcast we did, but I this all kind of running together, guests, Uh, But I don't think I'm gonna take the full two weeks I think I'll take like a long weekend maybe and uh like do the old we call that the chuck booms back in the day, whe you take a Friday and a Monday off and then you're kind of that's it. You get along four day weekend. I think

that would be pretty cool. That is, that would be cool. I wonder what it's like to have a vacation time. Yeah, well, you know, try to be successful, maybe get to a point. Can can end up getting that, you know, get my own studio. Have fruit fed to me every night? Yes, yes, I have a harem. People around me that feed me grapes. That's right, just like the Hollywood movies exactly. Yeah, all right, let's do one more pop quiz. I know we're getting boy,

we're probably really over where we need to be. But here it is. According to a recent survey, twenty percent of new college graduates say they still enjoy this, which is associated with childhood, almost every week. Oh fuckle, I guess cartoons. It's not a bad guess. Uh not not right, though, of new college graduates say they still enjoy drinking a juice box like a child, drinking a juice box. Get lunchboxes Capri Sun count. I would assume it would count.

Why wouldn't it come down for Capri Son sounds good? So you're in. You're not a recent college graduate. Actually graduated from Northeastern in two thousand eleven. Please that's a decade ago. Man. Come on, all right, that's it. Hey, follow us on social media. We got another podcast on Sunday. We'll have the mail bag and don't stick to sports in that one. And if you want to personalized video, love to do it for. It's not free, but it's cheaper than everyone else. Just about it works at our

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