Bleeding Hearts

Fifth Hour with Ben Mather. This the Sunday Podcast. We are back at it again and a lot of wonderful questions coming. And we thank you so much for supporting the mail bag feature on the podcast. And I am joined yet again by a man who came in here kicking and screaming, had a temperate tantrum yet again, David Gascatta. I'm motivated and I'm interested on with fargic. You will see, David Guest. I I will admit I've felt lethargic of the last seventy two hours. Things have been going on

through my mind. You want to expand on that for the class. You want to tell the class what's going on here? Why do some volunteer work. I don't want to talk about that, but do something. But I'm looking for compliments. I'm not looking for compliments, but I do some volunteer works. That's kept me at bay for a little bit. And then uh yeah, being pressed with with this time of the year, you know, with college basketball, making the transition from the regular season to the conference

tournament to the n c Double A dance. Um, you know, I had some assignments, so thinking about that, and then of course baseball season. You know, talked to Charlie on FREDA and you're fired up about it, and I am too with baseball season. Getting underweight. It's good as seeing, it's good to hear the crack of the bat and um so yeah, I've been a little flat blast couple of weeks. I've been sore. Shit, I'm not gonna lie. I I hate doing this, but I did make the

investment to buy some weights. Um, not heavyweights, but I bought some kettlebells, about five of them, going from eight pounds to six. And I hated doing that because the thought is, if you buy the weights, or if you buy a treadmill or a bike, that means you're always at home like you're never going to the gym or never going out to exercise, and but I had to do it. Getting weak man getting weak, Yeah, well you're getting old. That's what happens in old age, and so

you do it now. Usually what I've heard is the people that buy the treadmill and stuff, they'd never use it. But I use my treadmill. I use it four or five days a week. I'm on the treadmill that's sending on my my schedule. So I don't want to be that guy that buys the workout equipment on the infomercial and then just sits there and it's a close rack. Yeah, some of mine. I don't want to ever be that guy. Some of my best lines when I used to work at a gym when I was younger in the sales department,

were specifically like that. Like if you came into the gym and you said, well, you know, I think I'm just gonna buy some home equipment as you walked out, and you didn't want to buy a membership, I'd be like, hey, make sure when you go and you buy your equipment, go buy a rag and um and some cleaning material.

And the guy would usually be like, well, why and I'm like, well, because when your gym at home starts collecting dust, you need something to clean it off because you probably won't be using it like you would be here, or we hold you accountable. Yeah, that was a good one. What a dick. My favorite one was like back in the pay phone days, there was always four excuses someone would give you why they didn't want to join a gym. It was money, time, commitment, or their spouse. And so

spouse was always the fourth one. And so sometimes a guy would be like, hey, I gotta talk to my wife about this. This is a financial decision. And we could do two things, and I'd pull out change and put it on the table, or I'd say, hey, I can leave. There's a phone right here. Because it sounds like every time you need to make a big decision, you need to go call your wife. Oh, guys would just get fucking bat It's just it was good man, you just call him out right. How many times you

get slapped? It never got slapped. The females love me. They're the men always got like defensive. I'm not fucking like that. I just need to make a decision with her involved. You know, back in the day, like memberships for gyms or thirty dollars a month, and now they're sixties seventies, sometimes a hundred dollars even still get a deal. And I don't even know now because with the pandemic and the gyms, are they even still making him in?

My God? But uh, I guess they still had their money coming in though the gym's right, so maybe they actually came out ahead of it because a lot of people didn't cancel their membership. But I would always go to Costco. They had a deal you get like two years membership. You had to pay it all up front, obviously, but then you didn't have to pay about it was per month. Was cheaper than the the rate they would give you the gym. But I'm not going back screw that.

I had some weirdos. I'd go to the gym in the morning after the show, and I had the older crowd was there, and I knew everyone at the gym, and nobody knew who I was, and they didn't know what I did for a living. They just thought. Many people thought I was just getting up just to work out in the morning. They didn't realize I'd been up all night because everyone else was getting up at the

crack of down to go in there and work out. Um. But anyway, all right, so what we're talking about gis guy we were bloviating here you're calling and are those are Well, you're not exactly a robber baron. You're not a captive industry here. You would admit that, right, I'm an up and comer. Um, you know, I don't. I'm not sitting in the big scene. You've you've aged out of the prospect range. That's why to point that up. You know your prospect in baseball, which is a suspect

until proven otherwise, and then you reach a certain age downgraded. Wow. But you would agree though that when you get into the sports industry oftentimes these are jobs for life. Yes, No, no that I've been fired many times, you know. I mean, but like you get into this endeavor thinking like, Hey, I'm gonna do this for the rest of my life. No, I mean, I've always hoped I would do this for the rest of my life, But I've never assumed. I've always thought at any given moment. I used to say

I would push shopping carts at Costco. I would I would get a regular job if I nobody would hire me in this In this business, if you need money, go out and hustle. I'm I'm I'm old. I think you have to work hard for your Mucco dinero. I know these days that's not the speaking of that. Did you see that that that story on social media the other day which I mentioned this, I was dude, I did a hit with my guys sports with Coleman on

his show in Baltimore. He brought this up. But this this great whining and complaining about unpaid into And uh, I actually thought of you because you you often use victim mentality. No, no, I am, I am a I'm an unpaid employee. There's a difference. Well, you're a paid employee chronic out and you're a chronic complainer. So I

didn't think of you during that time. And and it's like it's an odd deal because I do not believe I would have had any career in radio without my unpaid internship for Lee Hack saw Hamilton's at the mighty six ninety and San Diego from Baja to the Canadian Rocket. Wait, were you living in Orange County and commuting down there? Yes, I I could not afford to live in the beautiful San Diego. But I was down there like four or

five days a week. And you can imagine the gas from from where I was was growing up and whatnot. And so yeah, I mean I was down there all the time. I wasn't getting paid for it, but I loved being at the radio station. This was a station I listened to. These are the pool that I heard, you know. You know, I was in high school and then I went to college briefly and then got you know, internship shortly after that, and so these are people I were familiar with. And I would get down there early.

And I remember there was a Jack in the Box because I was big, big eating days, so there was a Jack of a Box just down the street from off Arrow Drift right. Um. Yeah, So I would go to the Jack of the Box and I would get lunch, and then I would go in there hours before Jim Rome was on doing his show, and I would hang out in the newsroom there and just kind of soak

it all in as often as I could. And then when Hacksaw would get done at seven o'clock I believe it was, and then I I would just hang out in the back with John che Lesnik and some of the other guys that were there in the back in the newsroom. And but I didn't get paid for it. And then eventually the hired me as an engineer as a board op and then I did I did San Diego State basketball a few times. I was terrible at that.

But but one thing led to another. But it all started with the the unpaid internship, which is in many ways paid because of connections. It's paid with who you're going to meet and and is the key to life we've learned over the years is not what you know, it's who you know, and you get to know people in that situation. This is fascinating, let's say, fascinating revelation. Oddly enough, you know, wait, wait aside, we've had linear

timelines in this industry, is that right? Yeah? When I when I graduated from grad school, I came back to l A. And I worked as an unpaid like postgraduate work for the city of Torrance doing like reporting, like field reporting, editing like the whole nine yards. And oddly enough, I had a classmate from San Diego State. I hit her up on Twitter one day and I said, point Blake, because this is how desperate it was, I said. I texted her and I said, get me a fucking job.

That's how desperate I was, Like thirteen months of that work getting paid, and she introduced me to someone at the same station that you worked at, got me to the program director. And four months later he gets back to me. He says, I might have a job for you. I don't know yet, but why don't you come down next week and we'll talk about it. Ben I, I kid you not. I packed all of my ship, called one of my buddies and I said, hey, I need a crash here and he said for how long? I

said two weeks. So I get down there and the guy hires me after we met, and he's like, I can't give you that many hours, maybe like six, maybe twelve, but coming every day this week and we'll give you some hours and we'll get you at to speed and see you know how many we can get you. I fucking moved down there, and all of a sudden, I started cranking out hours every week, and lo and behold, I was a part of a couple of shows, but I was capped. I was capped it because I was

part time. You can't be full time. You know, working twenty nine hours. So I worked part time, working uh twenty nine hours a week ten dollars an hour as a fucking board up. I did not leave my house and when I and the only way I could watch sporting events was just like you, I stayed at the station, so my shift of the shows would end at five o'clock. I wouldn't go home till ten because I was watching the Pacific time zone games. Yeah. Well, the thing I

remember too is that's a good point. But I had in those days. You know, it's a stone age we had. The internet was not really a thing, and I think a o L was around America Online. But I love being at the Mighty S because they had the has

hacks all called at the High Speed Sports Wire. They had the AP news Wire on one side of the room, and then across on the other side was the Sports Ticker, which was more for scores and updating that, and they'd be there'd be news bulletins and so I was like, I'm gonna sit here, and I was like, I was like a news junkie back then. I was like like I am today still, but it's much easier today to do it. And I'd wait for these news bulletins to come across and be oh, okay, you know, you know

a p news bulletin from the NBA. You know so and so has been traded or whatever. It was awesome, yeh. But but I mean, I just I saw that conversation and it was asked about that, and I just like, Okay, I mean, I guess now, and everything's supposed to be handled to you, handed to you. But I don't know why any business if a we'll use radio here as an example, the unpaid intern. You don't have experience, you're not qualified to work at the radio station. You're learning

the craft. So why if they're gonna pay someone, why wouldn't they just pay someone who actually knows what they're doing, rather than having to pay someone and then train them. You know what I'm saying. It didn't mean from a business standpoint, the company, then you're not gonna you're gonna limit opportunities. And these people are so stupid they don't realize that. They think that no, no, no, no, no, it's gonna be you're gonna be paid for this, that

and the other thing. And it's uh, you know, it's a sign of the times, right, it's a sign of the time. The other thing that's a little a little unnerving, I guess is that these people bit shimon about not being paid for internships, but they don't enquire about what starting pay is anyway, because if they inquired about that, they wouldn't do these jobs in the first place. No, no, no, no,

it's all part of the night guys. Well, but then let's see they start, and then they would be complaining, Well, you've got to raise them, you know, it's not a livable wage. You've got to raise it up, you know, and all that stuff. By the way, speaking of that poverished, I was in poverished working. Do you need a room? If there's a chance you could clear out the Mallard mansion for for me, it'd be great. Oh you're getting

you're getting kicked out of your house. Lie, you know, I'm just not getting not getting paid here with you. So I need to, you know, slum it up with Mallard. You know, maybe if you did a better job, more people you get you make some money. How about that? How is the how is the collection going with with your with your father's uh, with your father's place, Because you've you've You've You've cleaned off a lot of different things during during the time, some good collect bles. Um

are you still jams these days? Uh? Well, most of it has. Every weekend my my my pops passed away in January. January two, it was the day after New Year's and so ever since then, here we are in March, and I've been every weekend, literally every weekend has been at his house, the family house, cleaning it out, going through my parents, saved everything from my my childhood. So and once my mom passed, my Dad's like, I don't I don't care, do whatever you want. I'm not going

to throw that stuff away, you know. And so I have everything. So I've gone through it. And what we've done is we've put it in by category and then eventually I'm gonna go through it. And actually I was talking to Mike Harmon. We had him on the the podcast. I don't think you were here for that one, but we we had him on, and uh, he's in he's

very into sports collectibles, very tied into that. And then there's some listeners that have reached out to me that are in that business that have said they would like to assist in getting man I don't need this stuff. I mean, I I got a lot of a lot

of interesting like cards. But also I realized I had picked up some knick knacks and things from my early days in the media, uh, where you know, certain guys would give me, Like I have a bunch of base game used baseball bats and random crap that I picked up that I don't even know if that's worth much, but it's, uh, you know, stuff I've acquired. It's awesome.

Over the times, it's good man, I mean, because I would imagine part of you says, let's get rid of it, but the other parts of nostalgic, and you know, whether it's a lot of money or not, it's still near and dear to the heart. Yeah. You know, what's one of the cool things I found. I've always been the mad hatter. Even when I had hair, I was the mad hatter, and I I had a I found a whole stash of baseball caps from back in the day. And you know, I just used to collect hats and uh,

and I I found some of these things. And these are like vintage hats that I could probably sell for a fair amount of money if I wanted to. Like the the style hat like I'm actually I've got one right here that I brought back to the to the office. It's the Detroit Lions had. I'm not Allions fan. I happen to buy Alliance hat because it was I thought it was a good looking at hat and it's got remember the look where they had the it's like the early nineties that the flames kind of coming up behind

the logo. Yeah, so I have one of those, just randomly that I just happened to find and pro line authentic is uh what was what what it was? But anyway, just random random things. We have the mail bag, though, guestsco we must get to the mail bag here. It is the mail bag. These are actual questions by actual listeners, like your yourself mail bag. If you would like to submit a question for a future edition of The Fifth Hour podcast, you can do that on our Facebook page.

Follow the show on Facebook. They're like our page, Ben mallor show, or send me an email Real fifth Hour at gmail dot com, Real fifth Hour at gmail dot com. Brian writes it in Burlington, Ontario, Canada. Oh come, He says, I would love to hear your viewpoint on nb A top shot. Yeah, Uh, do you know what NBA top shot is? Have you been paying attention to this guest? Yeah, So NBA top shot is. The way I've been told, it's like a video trading card. Uh, and these these

little video clips. The NBA partnered with somebody, and it's a digital craze. Uh, and people have been spending millions of dollars on highlights. And it's been explained to me a couple of different ways. But there's actually a company out of Canada I think that is partnering with the

NBA on this um. But the way I was told, and I'm probably gonna get this completely wrong, is that, uh, they they tag these highlights like a lebron hammered dunk as a moment, and uh, people spend money, they purchase digital packs containing there's there's a couple ways, you know, either get random moments or specific moments, and the moments

are you know something. Some are very rare, Uh. Some are artificially scarce based on they have they have a scale like they call it the rarity scale and all that. So there's a couple of different tiers. Um. The common ones are like a thousand dollars for digital COMMU people pay. They paid millions of dollars these things, but you don't. I don't think you can actually make any money on it though. That's the thing, Like I I that part I don't understand. They're selling it like it's a pack

of trading cards, except it's video. It's only available well in on on social media, and it's not like if Fox or ESPN played a highlight, you would get paid for it. So that part of it I don't understand, right. I mean, they say purchasing is like buying anything, right, you you use your credit card, you purchased something like you would go to the store. But it remains it's I'm not explaining it the right way, guest, because I

don't understand all of it. I've been told by a couple different people about it, but it's not for me. How about that you You you obviously don't know about it. Here, I don't have an interest in it. I don't know. I don't really either. I I don't need to get

a highlight of somebody unless I can make money. If you told me, Okay, no, let's just pick a random Kawhi Leonard had the most amazing spin move and he knocked down a little bunny jumper that you know won a game and this is the highlight of the year in the NBA A And every time NBC, CBS, Fox or ESPN plays it because you bought it on top shot, they gotta pay, you know, twenty cents or a buck or whatever. I'd be Okay, I get it. I understand.

I'm in on that. It makes completely sense. You know, it makes a lot of sense here, But that's not the way it is, um. But this is proof you you can with the proper marketing, guess gun, you can convince people that something is valuable that for most people would be like, that's not why would anyone want that? But yeah, I guess if you're into it, good for you if that's your Michion gosp But I, yeah, I have no no interest in this at all. I uh, It's not like I'm gonna go in there and be like, oh,

I'm really upset I missed out on this. Now, if there's a way, I can make a ton of money, okay, But as I understand it, I don't really think and then you just like resell these things. What's the point. I don't get it. It sounds like bitcoin of man. Yeah, it's it's it is similar to that. And you've got in on bitcoin. I have not. Yeah, I haven't dipped my toes and that I'm worried about what I got in the pipe right now. So yeah, yeah, these stock

markets is not not particularly been kind here the last month. Here. These that the Biden effect? That should we call that the Biden effect? They're a little sleepy, how about that? Yeah? Every day is how low can you go? How low can you go? And look at those church and they're not green the red. It's usually not a good sign.

So yeah, I'm sitting right now. Let's see, I'm looking at my portfolio here and I have a fair amount of stocks and only three of them have gone up A one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, Yeah, nine have gone down. So that's the math on that's not particularly get it all. Huh So I just gotta keep going with these. I told you this might strategy with the dividends, the stocks that the pay dividends, because at

least then you get a little bit back. So it when your stock goes down, obviously the payback is less, but you're still getting something. So it adds to the pot there to spend more money. Of course, then there's the argument that the great one of the great weasel techniques ever Wall Street, when the stocks are, when the stock market is now, that's the time to buy, right. Yeah. I always tell you you you, you repeat that from time to time. I say more so now by the hype.

There's hype behind it. There's usually a push by the hype all about the type. Yeah, so that answers your question, Brian. I know a little bit about top shot, but I really don't have an interest in that. Jason and Rocky Mountain Virginia, right, See, Man, I think the verbal octagon between you and Cooper Loop occasionally should be up for a benny every year. They're hilarious. Can you guys try and have one every night? They are epic? No, no, no, no, Jason,

see listen. Uh. Coopa Loop is triggered by my commentary because he doesn't hear this anywhere else. Coop lives in a cocoon surrounded by Laker propaganda and Laker apologist. He consumes media from toes sucking, shoulder rubbing Laker fan boys who are in the media, and so when he hears me give the truth about the Lakers truth and broadcasting

Coop cannot handle. And he starts getting very defensive and very upset and starts pushing back to my points that are accurate about the Lakers, and then he tries to get into a dust up, and it's uh, you know, we had to put him in his place the other night. This week we had a big back and forth you heard at Jason, and of course we won that battle. The Lakers lost a Sacramento How embarrassing to lose to the Sacramento Kings. They are falling apart. As it is

All Star weekend in the NBA. They are falling apart. The Lakers. I don't know that they're ever going to bounce back from this. This could be the end. Kevin in Rockford writes, and he says, would you ever consider giving jiu jitsu a try? Any person at any age and any build can do it. It's amazing the exercise and it's good for the mind. Look at um uh, Kevin, I have not considered jiu jitsu. It sounds like you are fully invested in the cult of jiu jitsu, and

that's good for you. You're you're into it. I actually I have a neighbor, Uh that I'm friendly with, who's who's into jiu jitsu. He's actually around my age, and he hurt his back doing jiu jitsu and like several months he could not do any physical exercise. But that's you know, that's it doesn't mean that everyone's gonna hurt there back. But I have not considered you a jiu jitsu guy, Gascon. Is that something that interests you? I'm curious about it. Yeah, I've I've taken boxing classes before

with a couple of friends, like training with them. Uh, a form of mixed martial arts. It's a lot. I've actually taken some classes in that, um, not jiu jitsu though not ju jitsu. But it's great for flexibility because you need to be nimble and you need to be flexible. That's one area that I've always had a weakness with. But we have a lot of weaknesses, you know. Yeah, but you want to point that out, it's fine. We

all do know. No, No, some of us don't. Some of us some of us are in really good shape, don't have well, I mean, round is a shape. I don't know if you want to say that's a good shape. But it's fine. If you want to classify yourself as being shape, it's good, not a weakness. Point that out, Kevin. Be sure to catch live editions of the Ben Maller Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation.

Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live. Kevin in Mansfield, Texas. Right so, he says, I want to know what awards from the Benni's did not make it on the air that ended up on the cutting room floor. For instance, I never heard an award for the worst fifth hour co host producer or word Fox Sports Radio parking job, or biggest elitist west of the four oh five. I don't know

who might be nominated. I'm just asking you know, you should worry about that power grid you got in Texas. You should worry about that. Why why he didn't say your name? Why why do you think it's you? Because you tend to take shots at me unprovoked. I didn't write this email. I did not write this message. But do you have your you have the guys that slurp you up a little bit. You know, it seems like a legitimate question. He's curious, and you don't have to

be rude. Customer service is the way to go. This is not a customer service kind of business and endeavor that we're upon right now. The customers always run, customers always run satisfaction. Janet in Indianapolis. Our friend Janet writes, and she says, what's up with the Cincinnata read this season? That's a very sportive question. Will they ever have a

winning season? For the love of God? She points out why, I would say that if the Reds were going to have a good season, last year would have been the good season when you had Trevor Bauer, who's not walking through that door. Uh. This is not that the Reds look tremendously mediocre. They look about the saying that they'll

be around five hundred giver. Take there, and you've got the big centerpiece with Joey Vado and Nick Castellanis who's still hanging out there, and Mike Mustakis and guys like that in the lineup, and then you look at the pitching staff and you're like, all right, you got you know, one or two guys that you've you think are gonna be reliable in Luise Kissio and Sunny Gray in the rotation and then after that, forget about it, forget about it, forget about it. Yeah, the Reds are gonna be visible.

So will they ever be good again? Uh? Well, you know what you should do, Janet? You should go on YouTube watch some old Big Red Machine highlights from back in the day. Should go back to So that's that's thirty plus years ago. Boy? Yes, so is the Big Red Machine? What is that fifty two years ago? Yeah? But that was that was the day. That was the heyday of Cincinnati Reds. I like the story though about them taking out the Oakland A's when they shouldn't have.

The A's were supposed to win three straight years in a row and the Dodgers got them, and so the Reds. Yeah, and the great moments in Red's history when Eric Davis got injured and March shot left him out in the hospital. Boy, great moments in Red history. Kevin in Kansas writes, since says, with all of the radio legends you have on your Friday podcast, any thoughts about creating a six hour show?

It expands these interviews. I know you are packed as it is, but these segments are so informed and entertaining that it would be worth be worthwhile. Thanks the from Kevin Well, I think you'd be open to that, guest gun you you have no problem doing this year. You're very punctual, you show up on time, and you're a big fan of what we do, So I think you'd be open to a six hour podcast. Yeah, he didn't

ask me, so not really answer that. It's a good point when condemned Kevin, you want to take a shot fastize him not today an thing negative about me. I'm sure he's a fine guy and enjoying Kansas right now. Yeah, well, Kevin, as I often have pointed out, I will do anything if there's a check associated with it. So if the company wants to spend a couple more bucks there, maybe raise the rate. I would certainly be more than open

to doing a six hour podcast. Chris and Iowa writes, and he says, enough of your radio pals, when is Bill burd coming on the podcast? Alright, guess book Bill Burr, you've got some connections. I don't know what kind of connections you've got, but I know some people. It would be a tough gut for me. I don't know lot of comedy people, though I do a lot of comedians. I'd like to get comedians on. It will be fun to get comedians. I don't know. I don't really, I'm

not in that world. So if anybody knows, and we have people that listen to the are in the comedy world, if you would like to help us out on that. The only comedian I really know casually is Jay Moore because he worked at Fox Sports Radio. That's I'm trying to think off the top of my head. That's about it. I don't think I have in my roll of decks. I don't think I have any other numbers or contacts

other than Jay Navy. Steve in Boston rights and he says, which happens first, the Patriots have an above average season again, or Tiger gets another rent a car? Good question. Yeah, well, see here's the thing. Like Tiger, the Great Tiger Woods there, he's famous, and so somebody will give me a car, right, that was, oh yeah, we'll give you, well, we'll give

you a loaner car. Meagtioned that that phone call somebody had to make from like Tiger's agent, you know, you know that car that you gave was that was it Riviera? Is that the group that gave him the Yeah, probably a sixty or seventy thousand dollar vehicle. Hey, Tiger would give you a loan? Hey yeah, yeah, this is a Tiger's agent there, and that's gonna let you know. We had a little situation, a little fender vendor. Oh really is that? What? How's the car doing? Well, you know,

it's uh, it's not that good right now. But I think he'll be repaired, you know, I think he could be Yeah, God, jeez, that might be great for marketing. Though when you think about it, if he was not in that vehicle but wasn't in another suv, he probably is dead. So that's the case. Now, if Tiger had died that day, does he get the full Kobe package? Is bigger than Kobe because there was like a national morning period when Kobe passed away. I think it's probably similar.

But golf versus basketball, it's not an apples to apples can Paris and golfs are a global game, but not as big as I would say basketball. Man, But golf is a global game. No, no, no, But both are global games. But basketball is I get bigger deal. Golf is big for like four majors, but Tiger transcended golf because of the crossover popularity. Yeah, that's a tough call, man, Yeah that is Unfortunately we don't have to find that out for a whole Hopefully. I think Tiger will ever

walk again with a limp. Yes, with the limp. They're not gonna give him some kind of like biomic bionic leg or something like. They got a rod in his leg already, so you have that, and then he's gonna have multiple surgeries, so he'll be walking with the limp. I don't know if he'll ever play again, but I mean he was still rehabbing from his back surgery. Big Mike from Courtland, New York Rights in Home of the Red Dragons says burger joints are very regional. So what

are your top three in California? Yeah, and it wasn't in and out, in and out like a little more meat in the in and out burger. But I'm you know, the fries are good and all that, but the in and out solid. Try think like locally, there's a few local small change. There's a place called Mooyas. You ever been to Mouas pretty good. Pretty good burger, isn't there? Have you ever gone to Fred's in I think it's in Norwalk. No, I've not been to Fred's. No, have

you you've been there? You It kind of reminds me of Fat Burger. There's a place I used to go called Slaters. You ever been? There's a few of those. I think that's a national I think it's in Texas to I don't think it's just in California. But it was pretty good. They changed, they've changed their menu fair amount of time. But you know that's not bad. I'm a fan of or not well in and out for sure. Carls Jr. Always been a fan of the double Western

bacon cheeseburger. Yeah, that's that's Hi on the list. But I gave up red meat for Lens. I haven't been able to enjoy burgers steaks. Good place. Bun Street is another place that's pretty good. Have you been to the Counter? Yes, I've been to the Counter. That's a boogie West of the Food Well. It's a high end burger place. It's fucking huge though those burgers are one story. It depends, it depends what you can get different size Burgers used to make your own, create your own. Yeah, that's fine,

it's a it's great. When was the last time I too Bob's Big Boy? Man? I used to go there all the time as a kid, Bob's Big Boy And was it food ruckers? Yeah? Fund Ruckers. I love fund Ruckers. Damn the sides of the cow and you walk into fund Ruckers you see a big piece of meat on a hook and you can walk in there. Yeah, no food Ruckers around at least where I am and Bob's Big Boy. When I worked in Burbank, right near to Luca Lake, the only was was it the original? Wasn't

the original? There was an old one of older Bob's Big Boys burger joint was there, and that a lot of the Hollywood crowd would hang out there and they used to have car shows. Jay Leno when he was hosting Into the Night Show, he would go there quite a bit and there were always always some interesting cats over At that point, what I was mentioned Bun Street Moyaz pretty good. Um, I'm trying to think that's about it.

I'm sure there's something that I'm I'm forgetting here, But those are the ones that popped into my head right away. All right, what is next year? We're doing the mail bag and any MENI mony mo uh. Let's go now to alf the alien opiner um, better known as Pierre and Springfield. These this pen you often equate a player's best years as his salad days. Where did this phrase originate? And who in the hell prefers salad to anything else?

Because I'll mix it a salad once in a while, But when I think of a good time, I'm not thinking salad. Tomahawks steak maybe, but definitely not salad. Yeah, that's right, listen, Pierre, I agree with you. Uh, And I am saving that Tomahawks steak for a very special day, very special when you're not lazy as fuck. Uh. And as far as salad is, I think we've answered this before, but it's a a Shakespearean expression from Cleopatra. Yeah, it's

stood the test of time. It was. It just means you're you're something when you're doing something with enthusiasm and youth, and it's associated with a young, exciting time in someone's life, and so salad is. But that reminds me because your your birthday is I'm up right, I don't age I'm like, I'm like, honey, don't age. Everyone ages. There's just two different degrees. But your your birthday is coming up. What kind of an asshole accepts a steak for his birthday

and sits on it for over a year. Again, the steak isn't fine. I could take that steak here, I'm asking the question, what kind of an asshole would do that? Well, what kind of asshole checks to see you don't give a gift? And then did you use the gift? How's the gift? It's like you give some corpware. Did you use your tupper work? Did you use your tupper work? I put a lot of money on the tupper work? Of course, dick, of course, of course, there's a word

for people like that, asshole. That's the word for people like that. Yes, but seriously, think about that. What are you doing? What are you doing? You're you're getting reading yourself, You're you're smirching your family name. Here is trying to grade the quality. You're slandering the guests. God name. It's bad enough the district attorney in Los Angeles is doing that. But now you I'm trying to grade the gift on on a scale of one to ten on how good

it was. By the way that guestscon versus guests going, is that yeah, yeah, you should start that campaign gascons against guestcones. You could, you could leave the recall charge charge. Get this nim Rod out of this. Mama Luke got office there, we got two guys, we got Newsome and

and guests going that are yeah on the outs. That would be reason to celebrate, to have a Tomahawks stake, to get rid of that punk Gavin Newsom, that loser and this this is also this ridiculous district attorney in Los Angeles who it's it's like, let's have the rooster run the the the coop. I mean it's insane. Uh, Charlie in Memphis, right since says, how can to alcoholic idiots who don't know the difference between a Poland writing lawnmower and a John Dear tractor win any award? Shouldn't

that be an automatic is qualified? Charlie? Let it go, Charlie, let it go. Okay, come on, and we don't we don't put disclaimers on us, and and and you should be upset not with with us, you should be upset with the people that voted the Big Stars of the Benny's Beer Drinking Brian and a half point the most decorated tosome in show history for a single Benny Awards. Beer Drinking Brian and half point got tons of votes.

It's shocking they didn't win Caller of the Year. Carlos and Bang Bang Houston, Texas, right so, and it says now that Texas has opened up all the way, will you be making your way here when the Stros play the Dodgers. Also, you said you collect pens from colleagues. How do you know what pen belongs to who? Well, I keep them in a certain order. Wait, pens or pens? I thought you collected pens? No, no, I collect pens.

I told the story, thanks for listening that I Rush Limbaugh, the great late Rush Limball would come out to the Premier Networks. He was in Los Angeles and he would do a show from time to time, usually once or twice a year, and they had his he his own studio which was just across the hall, around the corner across the hall that was only for Rush when he was in Los Angeles. Thinking about how powerful you are in radio when there's an entire studio and it was

a big studio only for you. No one else was allowed in there. No one else used it for roughly fifty of the fifty two weeks of the year. Uh, no one was in there. And then when Rush Rush would come in any of the gold microphone or that. But one time Rush was in there and he was doing his show, and obviously he's not there when we're doing the overnight show and Rush it was gone. They

had left the door open. I guess they were cleaning in or something like that, and I might might have gone in there and just snooped around to see where the King sat and did his radio show and the legend to someone I aspire to be as successful as. And sure enough there was a pen that was was there and I grabbed it, and that's my Russia Ni. Yeah, you got a Russia Limba pen. I have Jay Moore penn, Tony Bruno pen. Uh, there's a there's a few good few that I have in my collection. So it's my thing.

But as far as going to Houston or yeah, I would definitely love to do it. I I'm backed up though I haven't gone anywhere since the end of twenty nineteen, so I need to do some Mallard meat and greets again. Gotta get back into that we were We've got Vegas. I'd like to get to Minnesota, Cincinnati. Also, those are on my short list of places we need to go and people we need to see. How about you need to get to work? How about that? How about you

drive to work? Drive into this every drive bad, drive into the student fuck believable. Did you ever learned? The great Charlie Steiner pointed out he can call the World Series game from his living room, okay, from his living room. Uh and did anyone say, well, Charlie, you didn't really call the game. You didn't do No, he did it. He nailed it. You are so behind in the time. Just because you can't do it doesn't mean you should

do it. Yeah, there's something lost and being at the ballpark, just like there's something lost about not being at a at a studio. I disagree. I used to think that way, and then I realized I didn't have to see you, and so I thought, well, that's really good. I can avoid you. Uh. Emmett Emmett, the blind Seahawks fan in Olympia, Washington. I like this guy. This guy's got some gumption. This Emmett. He's a high school guy and he's moved up in the Malla Militia as a neophyt. He's moved up. He's

Moxi too, and I like he's on Facebook. I was looking he posted this question and I saw some photos of him in his younger days, and uh, I love it. Man, it's good for him. A little odd, think you're looking at pictures of teenagers, but it's fine. I was just cure. I thought maybe it was let me explain, dummy. We have a lot of characters, cartoon characters like to pretend to be other people, so I wanted to make sure this was actually like blind Emmon and it was not

somebody pretending to be blind Emmy. But it turns out it was blind him. You have do you have doppel gangers and you have fake accounts? Yes, well there's the gag on account, which is of course I think you're behind that. But it's interesting that you won't admit to that all these years, but you are a gag A little odd, Yeah, it is odd. I agree with you. I am at the Blind Sea Fanlimpia Washington says this is for you and that gag on guy. Have you

ever cursed on air or been close to it? Well, we're allowed to us here on the podcast, we can say all the naughty words. But on the air, yeah, we've We've cursed. I've cursed a few times. The last time I cursed was when the Denver Nuggets kode the Clippers, the People's team. Was a sad day for sports fans all over America, uh and the world very upset. The People's team eliminated and I had eat bull testicles, which

I did paid off that bed. But that night Doc Rivers, then Clipper coach, gave some bullshit excuses about the Clippers and why they lost and all that stuff, and I, uh, I think I told Roberto, as I remember, Roberto, get ready to dump me, I'm gonna curse. Now. Normally when I would say that, I would pretend to curse. This time I let it rip. This time I let it rip and appointed that feel good gessco Have you ever cursed? Yeah,

the top of the hour news update. No, but I've done it for TV and it was actually for a live event. I was actually calling a football a game. The second half was about to get underway and the place kicker was injured, so the punter had to do all the kicking, and I wanted to acknowledge that for the second half kickoff, and I combine kicker and punter and I more for that in to cunt. So I I caught myself and it was already too late, like the horses were out of the bar, And so I

immediately texted the executive producer. And because it wasn't it was live, but if you weren't watching it live, then it was gonna be on Fox on demand after so I merely text him. I said, Hey, that opening kickoff of the second half, you need to clip it. I was like, I was ship, so all right, there you go tremendous. Uh. You said, well, the thing about that is that you're you don't want to bring attention to it, right.

They always say, don't bring attention to it because the people that consume audio content or in your case, television, people are watching TV. They're looking, They're not hanging on your every word. And as much as I would like to think that you listening to this podcast are just totally focused on everything that I am saying. And it's very important there. We know better than that. We know, studies have been done that of the things that we say, uh,

the majority is lost. People don't pinch it. People remember like less, it's right around. Sometimes it's less, sometimes a little more of things that they listened to. And so it's it's it's like you say something that people like, Well maybe I heard that. A lot of people like, oh, he didn't say that. And there's no way that Gascon would say kunt on the on the broadcast, so I must have been imagining that he said punt. He clearly said punt. Always the case. Man, just hit the gas

and just drive right through it. You know, you don't ever, It's like, you know, I used to listen to Tom Looney on the radio and I was a little child, and Looney taught me that he did when you don't know how to pronounce a name, you just mumble it and say it quickly and move on. That's the key. H Barry in Tennessee rites and he says many a year ago when sports were shut down, I asked you guys, what you thought the chances of Alex Smith ever taking a snap in the NFL was? Gascon said it was

fifty fifty. Uh. Sitting Peyton manning come back from next surgery as an example, sighting, he said, uh, you Ben said there was no chance, zero percent chance he takes a snap. Now that Alex has played, he's won the NFL Comeback Player of the Year. Will you admit that Gascon was right and you were wrong? No? No, I will not admit that, Barry, because at the time I made that statement, every indicator was that Alex Smith would not play again for Washington, for the team formerly known

as the Redskins Soul. At the time you asked me that question, Barry, and you the information I had, I gave you the proper answer. Gascon gave you the wrong answer. Now, the wrong answer eventually turned out to be correct, But at the time Gascon gave that answer, he was wrong. He was he was inappropriate to give that answer. I gave you the proper response. Okay, So that is the way and and bad job by Scott. Still, you got

it wrong. You won't admit to it, but you got it roll very I think the easiest way to just to identify this is just to put Ben and I side by side, and you'd see one guy with grit, determination and a tough chin, and then there's the other one. There's Ben Mallory. Just roll over then beat you on the punchline. Acquiesced to everything, yes, sir, No, sir, okay, I'll do what you say, sir, and rag a muffin. Yeah.

Just but because you watched Alex Smith and his rehab, the stuff that was done on TV, the nineteen operations, I know the whole but it's just it's faster, right, like that fucking leg for it to survive and to play. That is a and that's like Rob meat Man. He did some some great work. But Alex Smith has sending a big thank you note to another varmint uh. That

would be Dwayne Haskins. Because if Dwayne Haskins, no seriously, if Dwayne Haskins wasn't a suck bag, then there's no way that Alex Smith would have gotten on the field. But because he he spent more time at the ballet and then then he did working on his craft, that opened an avenue for Alex Smith to come in. But that right, you got a winning lottery ticket. All you

need to do is cashing in. But let's just do some other bullshit that has nothing to do with the game of footballs I mean you think about the great moments of Dwayne Haskins his first NFL win. He could not go out, Remember he couldn't go back out to take the snaps in the victory formation. Why he was doing a selfie on the sidelines with fans. He was taking photos with fans on the side. How embarrassing is this? Uh? What kind of twisted reasoning is going through the mind.

But they're wonderful, all right. Got a couple more here, were doing the mail bag. Here's an odd one from Habib. He says, Ben Mallory and David Gascon, any of you subject of a carjacking or a close car call. He says, this just happened in January of this year. He was carjacked by two juveniles. And he says, the good news is they got arrested about that. For some reason, though he gave me his number, like I think he wants us to. I don't know that we need to call

him to get the the story. But that's wild he got He's in Louisiana. I believe, yeah, I actually I've had this happen to me. Um, And I don't know who I should be more piste off about with this, but I went with a buddy of mine of Vega and we went out there for for my birthday. I was during the summertime, and we went out there for four days. And it turned out it wasn't just as two.

There's like a gang of people that went guys, girls a whole nine yards and so we parted our asses off, and before we left San Diego, I drove to the airport and I had a friend um that that hooked us all up in terms of like getting our cars taking it back to our our places. So I had that done and I had some of my birthday presents

in the back of my Explorer. And the place I lived that was a condominium complex with garages like the whole smash right next to Qualcom Stadium ben When we got back beautiful Mission Valley, but Mission Valley spent a lot of time I was trophies in Mission Valley, which doesn't exist anymore. I was so dead tired from partying in Vegas that when I got home on a Tuesday, I didn't have to work until Friday. I did not

leave my house for three days. I shoot you, not my my buddy who was my roommate at the time did um. He would go down the parking structure every day to get to his car. Well, Friday comes, Ben Friday comes. That's three days later. I go down to my car. My car is not there, and I'm like, wait a minute. And then I asked my room and I man, hey, have you noticed that my car has not been around? No? I I haven't looked at it. I haven't looked. It was right next to the door.

I could not fucking believe it. But like, I don't know when my car was stolen. I was either stolen the day that we left for Vegas or when I came home. I had been obviously incapacitated for a week because of all that ship. But yeah, it was, hey dude, where's my car? Pretty much, yeah, I've I've lost my car. Sporting events were like I part I I parked it and I didn't know where it was and all that,

and I was like, yeah, what you know? It was like you've just been half an hour walking around the parking lot and then you have to wait for everyone to leave, you know, like me, let me see what's going on here? And big pain paint and the took his uh ted writes and he says, I'm I'm forty seven years old, originally from Philadelphia, huge baseball fan. He has a story, is a pretty good story, he says. And when the Phillies got Pete Rose in nineteen seventy nine,

I was a super stoked kid. I bet you were, says he loved Pete Rose, really bummed out about the gambling, blah blah blah. And so Ted says, fast forward years later, me and my dad his pops are in Vegas and they see Pete signing autographs on the strip, just sitting at a card table on the sidewalk next to the MGM. It's quite pathetic and hysterical at the same time. Ted says, So anyway, he says, he goes up to Pete and tells him he broke my heart, and Pete Rose says,

I broke a lot of hearts, buddy. So then Ted comes back and says, you should have gambled on the baseball. Pete Rose then responds, why don't you go funk yourself? Ted says, I turned around, and my dad says, I'm sure you're not the first nor the last person Pete told that. He says, I'm not sure why I'm sharingybody does love the podcast in the Overnight show, Well, thank you, Todd. That's a great Ted. Rather, that's a great story. Ted.

That's uh, that is awesome. Man. Imagine you be careful about your meeting your heroes because you're gonna be disappointed. Yea more times than not, you will. You will be disappointed. Matt. You know my run New York rights and he says,

Ben and gascon. Since grocery stores now require me to scan and bag all of my own items, do you see any problem with me accidentally neglecting to ring up a few items here and there, or possibly helping myself to a few grapes or radishes from the produce section now and then I feel taking advantage of and I demand justice. There you go. I love the show that is from Matt. Yeah, I I would avoid that. I'm

sure it happens all the time. I don't know the Walmart I go to, uh they have self check out mostly, and I know there's cameras everywhere, but how do you really keep track of who what's getting scanned and what's not getting you know what I'm saying? Don't they have monitors? Though? Don't they have people actually standing at those those areas

to make sure that people are putting that stuff. And I don't want to be smirch the good people who work at Walmart, but my experiences, they're not ego eyed. They're not paying very close attention to watching everything. I'll point that out. Yeah. So uh, anyway, all right, that's it. We're we went way long on this bad job. But us Remember the Charlie Steiner podcast. If you didn't hear it on the Friday podcast, Charlie was wonderful. Love me

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