An NFL Embargo

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any different than any other week. So still saying those stupid emails your Maron's I don't need You've you've woken up on the wrong side of the bed today. It's it's very apparent, and you've brought me down that road to I am exhausted because I've had to stay here overnight to monitor your show. You've brought up special guests to me and your listeners. We deserve an apology. Uh

you did not. I saw you leave the building. There's security camerage camera footage of you leaving the Psychopaths, So you did leave the building. And you know, I don't know if you got attacked by bed bugs or something like that. And you probably don't have a sleeping over bed like I have. No um so yeah, but but no, I mean listen, it's uh we do this. We tape this thing during the day and uh so sometimes I can be rambunctious when that happens. But anyway, we're back

at coming up on today's edition. Through I give you the rundown here because I like doing the rundown nice. So this is what we're cooking up here. On the podcast, we'll talk about we'll call the embargo Baby. I have not mentioned this before. This is we try to give you like insider stuff. Somebody pointed out, by the way Gascon, that we did no sports conversation last week. There was zero sports conversation, and as someone who is the producer

of the podcast, gas Gun, I fully blame you. In fact, I want you to know that if anyone complains, my default response and when management calls up and says I didn't like what I heard there on this podcast, I just blame you. I say, it's not my fault, it's gas Gun's fault. You're my fall guy. Well, the beautiful thing is, as you mentioned the top is we're under the I Heart Media umbrella, so it's not strictly Fox Sports and I heard media, so we encompass all that

is in this good world. That's true, and well that's my my thought on this movie. I do four hours of sports talk, plausibly sports talk, so this is not it's not I'm trying to circumvent sports talk. But one of the things that I would like is that I want this thing to last, this podcast, as far as

the fact that if you listen to it. I listened to podcasts from time to time, and when the sports in the sports corner, when stuff is dated, it's it's I evaded, you know, bipad, I sidestep, but whatever you want to uh and so uh you know a lot of these sports issues we talked about, unless we just do really generic things, which I'm not against, you know, I mean from time to time. You know you love

list radio. Gas got invented list radio. Um it's I feel it's disastrous, but we could do like top ten lists. We could do top five lists, you know, we could, we could do all that stuff. We gotta keep it

more open ending. We can't really do We could do that because I mean, after all we've had we can record, right, we can just record out a general sports topic and then not even worry if it changes the subject in a day or two or even hours after that, Right, something breaks and we stleft some recorded content that's still that's not evergreen, but it's it's what we have. Well. For for example, um, the was it two weeks ago

we were talking about it. We actually recorded a part of the podcast talking about Antonio Brown Benny versus a Penny, and we had to we had to delete that. Well, I it's team when it when it's a team, Yeah, it's in this in this respects this balancing act. Yeah you know, but yes, and so that content had to be deleted because it was dated and all that story had changed. And that happens a lot with these dopey things. But you know that already anyway, So I want to

put you. We talked about this. I need to have you on one of my games, on a television game for Fox out here on Fox Sports. I would love I would love that. I would I would do nothing but sports cliches. I might get fired. No, no, no, no, I think it would be great and and uh I think they should just just a bit to improve ratings. I would I would do that. I haven't been to a high school game since you know, I was in high school, but I would absolutely go. I would have

a great time. It would be a lot of fun. And let me tell you something, all right, the amount of hard oh sports talk that I could do here if you if you want, I am a contributor. I don't I kid around about this, but if you go, I'm gonna give you a website. You go to sports cliche dot com and you click on there's a link there near the tops called mission Statement and Links, and it's lists all the contributors of the people that sent in these things, and my name is prominently displayed there

on that particular page. I have contributed to what I feel one of the great websites out there, Thank God for the Internet. Not many people know about it, but sports cliche dot com, well you had You've had a couple of fantastic uh monologues with sports cliches from sports personalities, right athletes. Uh yeah, yeah, Well I love it. Well I did. We did a parody song years ago, which

I'm very proud of. When the it was like a pandemic all of a sudden hit, and it was everyone's saying, it is what it is like all so I put a Of course I had someone else to it, I because I pointed at someone else. But we put a song together and it was the it is what it is song, And it was like ten different people in football, the big stars at the time, and they all, uh, they all just said it is what it is like. Belichick, Elim Lijah Manning, Tom Brady, they're still around. They were

doing it and all that stuff. So, but just think of me like I have to. You know, I end to review the high school coach down by two touches? Coach, man, how do you stay hungry? You're up by you know, you're you're up by two times? Are you're down by two whatever? And uh you can go down that and uh go down that road? What else? What's your feeling coach heading into the locker room right now? Yeah? Yeah? What do you tell your team at halftime? Coach Boom? I love that one. That's a great I all that

from Aaron Andrews. I did I stole that from Aaron Andrews. Uh, coach the match up, Your numbers look terrible, looks like you have no chance to win, But the stature misleading, aren't they? And you can survive As an NFL field reporter, you'd be in a good spot. Yeah, I think I'd be all right. I think I think I can handle that.

Not the one thing that you cannot say during a broadcast like that, which a lot of radio hosts do now or even television personalities, they always use unmitigated disaster. That is a catchy phrase over the last year. You do you do, but you don't use it as much. Other people, I think use it as a crutch. I don't know if why is that not allowed? I mean it's okay, but you go back to the cliches, right, the dumpster fires or you know whatever. It is something

that's catchy. It is what it is. Those things were played on for a long period of time, and not unmitigated disaster is one of those. So that this is like an earworm for you. You hear this, You're annoyed by this, you're troubled by this. I just think that it's overused, right, A lot of this nonsense is overused. I mean it's everyone's using the same image. I do try to change it up, though. That's I get fatigued from using the same words, and I do need to. My goal for the next week is to use the

the the word horn swoggle more. I don't use that word enough. I love the word horn squogg. I feel like the great word. It's perfect words, fun word. Kids laugh at it, adults think it's interesting. Uh that don't always hear the words. So I like the word horn swoggle. I need to use that more. It's a bad job by me. Well please use it tonight. Then you know, no, no, wait a minute, I guess gone though. Yeah, you do these high school Friday you do a game, is there right?

So yeah, for Fox Sports West that will do high school football games, and then when you get into winter, it's usually college basketball and volleyball and baseball stuff that you don't really care about, so don't no, I'd have no interest in that. But it's on Fox. You should watch. Well not here. We work good I heearts, so it's this is an I Heart only product, so you don't

do anything. Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Meller Show week days at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app Get Out of Dog, Get Out of Dodge. As they say, but no, I would have fun. It reminds me of I think we talked about this. I don't know we did on on the podcast or not. But when I used to do the Football Show, The Hard Old Football Show with Looney Tunes on the weekend,

we had a great time. We had asked seven years I did that show and we had to interview every week. We had the stars of the NFL on Fox that would come on the play by play people and everybody, even Joe Buck had to do this and come on with us, and we had players every week from the winning locker room is never the losing locker room because the reporters were afraid to have them come on the show and they wouldn't come anyway. So we do this

every week and uh looney. One week we tried to change it up because we were asking really good, thoughtful questions, deep questions, you know, the kind of questions that you gotta do some soul searching for the athlete to answer the question. And it was it was such a disaster. It was it was painful. So we changed it up and Louni would just ask one one week, he asked nothing but sports cliches, uh to the to the players, he spoke their language like, hey, you really brought your

a game today, didn't you. Yeah, and things like that, you know, and they just they just ate it up. They just and they were tickled to death that they were asking these questions. And it was a tremendous improvement. So that's a little lesson. If you ever get a show where you have to interview athletes after football games, don't ask them those deep soul searching questions. You know where they could get lost in thought. You don't want you don't want introspection. You don't you want simple, you

want right. They're as simple as it gets, is what you want. I feel like there's a boilerplate template that's available for field and court side reporters, for halftime and for postgame, just immediate questions that come off your lips. How do you feel what led you to victory? What was the turning point in the game. What are you gonna tell your team at halftime? Coach? Right, halftime adjustment? What are you looking forward to next week? Okay, awesome?

So c I have a theory on this, A you're right, this goes on everywhere. There's I don't know anyone that's really outside that that certain lane they stay in, y'all lane and all that stuff that they I know that's saying fortune favors the bowl, which I use from something, but not when your sideline report, Uh, it is not. You want to keep your money. You have to you

have to play right. The other thing is that people have just become programmed to watch football or any sport, and they expect, you know what it is like a certain expectation It's kind of like when I watch a game and I know it's a blowout, and it's uh, every broadcaster learns that sportscaster clown class that hey, uh, we can't say the game is over. We have to lie, right, We have to lie to these people's years and to their face. And I said, you should not turn the

game off. You know it's a bare face lie, but you have to say it anyway because you're trying to keep your audience. It's harder to get new people than keep the people you already have, So it turns into a in a blowout, it's pathological line there when there's a chance they could come back. Yeah, and once out of like a thousand they come back. And then when the team does come back, then it's like, well, I told you, see, you should never turn the game up.

Nine nine point nine percent of time if you consider all the factors, the game is over. But it's a blowout, and and you and you use weasel words gas on your own how do I use the reasl word. They say that a broadcaster makes his or her money during blowouts because that's the only way that you can keep

an audience around. It's like a talk show host, right, Like, you can have a strong opening monologue, but if you've got no salt, no pepper, nothing in the middle towards the back end of the hour, then your game over. You're there for what fifteen minutes? So in a game you need the backstories. You need the players, you need their stories, You need to know how they came about, where they came from. I think those things are important. You just have around a conversation. See, I disagree with

your analogy here. It is the thing that it's like you you know firsthand, there's only host that provide a good opening monologue and they check out after that. Well that is true, alright, is true. But I would say the bigger issue in our industry if I were to give you a conversation about sports radio in general. And I don't listen all that often because I don't want to take other people's material and I feel like you might listen, I might copy something somebody else does, so

I don't. I don't actually listen as much as other people do. But when I do sample sports talk radio, all right, my analysis here, my diagnosis is that it's it's part of the calendar, like that this time of the year. During the NFL, there is usually five to ten pretty good stories a day, some better than others some days. But it's coming in in May and June and the months where there's not a lot going on, that's really not a lot of meat on the bone, and to still put out and turn out a decent

to above average show that. I mean, it's just people just pack it in. They get lazy, they don't they don't have the the chops to it. But so I think that's where like that's our blowout in sports radio when there ain't crap going on, the ship going on. We say that in the podcast, of course, and yeah, so it's you know, it's it's how to do it. And I guess in the layman's terms, it's almost like

the real estate market. Anybody can be an agent when the real state market is hot, but when it comes down and it cools off, then you see the feast and the famine that takes place. That's what it's like during the dog days of summer for baseball. Because there's not a lot of people that will delve into Major

League Baseball. They won't talk a lot about that. They don't go back to the National Football League and then of course the NBA had some offseason drama over the last couple of years, but that's been pretty much it. So you really got to manufacture, which comes back to your original point why it's important not to stick to sports because there's so many other things that are going on that make a show for three or four hours entertaining. Yeah, I mean you've got a mix and match and and

all that stuff. Yeah, even the hard oh sports shows is I find it a hard listen. I know that some people that love that and they like it, but it's it's like nighties sports radio, where like you'd read the read the lineups before games during the day, you know, the Yankees lineups out. That's read the Yankees lineup. It's like, okay on the phone to see that. Yeah, didn't you. I mean, I remember you're telling me a story about a couple of New York broadcasters that would actually do

that for the radio shows in the morning time. They would read it would be box score radio. Oh it was actually Mike frances Is the legend of this, Like FRANCESSA would kill like segments of his show just reading the lineups and the box score and and it was and he say a name and then he paused for like thirty seconds, and I mean, he just dragged it out. But I don't know if he still does that or not, but he I'm guessing I'll have to check with fun House,

but I'm assuming he does actually do that. Anyway, I was in the middle of the rundown. I was doing a formal rundown this Nanny this week. So we have Embargo Baby, the Power Lunch Study, this which I like, and we've got marginal questions from It's in the Bag, It's in the bag. We've got that, which I would like to see better questions now. Last week I thought the questions were pretty good. And then don't stick of Sports, which will be really a blind we there's no production

meeting on this. I have no idea what five stories guestcn's gonna pick. He was in a big hurry to get this thing going year, so we'll we'll we'll kind of play that by year. So that's that's what I think. That's that's a good podcast. I think that's a solid discussion has the ability to be a solid podcast. It's really up to to you not to eff it up. Okay, be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller

Show week dam eastern eleven pm Pacific. Can I give you at least an obligatory sports story to kick this thing off? Yes? Alright, oh, we that would be great because that would appease, that would pacify the people that are upset. You never talk about sports, just borring. I don't care about what you had for lunch. All right, well, here we go. Here's our obligatory sports story. Jennifer Lopez will be doing the halftime performance of the upcoming Super

Bowl j Lo JL man. She looks good for her age. Does that mean a rod is gonna be hanging out? Also? Will he be part of the festivities? Maybe with the answers in the back? Isn't it usually a group effort? You know what I mean? So it'll be her? Who is she gonna be with? I mean, there's gonna be some ensemble group there, right, the assemblage, usually the SUPERO I have some kind of tandem. That's that's my like.

They'll they'll bring some surprise musician who would be I'm not big on the music there, guess and I listened to it, but I don't know a lot about like, who would be someone that people would get all excited about and fascinated by if j Lo did some Jenny from the block worked with somebody else. I mean justin timber Lake comes to mind. Yeah, yeah, of course, I mean justin timber Lake with Jack Jackson. Well that was the super Bowl war wardrobe malfunction. Yeah, I think Gray Momanson.

We were, we were, I was on the ear doing a show during the super Bowl. What about if P Diddy comes out? Then you get a little friction right there, because that that whole a Rod relationship will obviously j LO. But P Diddy is the one that kind of brought her up from where she came from the block. J Lo. She's got a Derek Jeter like card of her her list of accomplishments there her conquest j Lo. But she had the gift basket. I don't know that she has the gift basket or not, would you si? How old

is she by the way, Credit's yeah, she's fifty. For her man, she's fifty. Where she probably spends a million She's like called Brian James. I bet Jennifer Lopez spends a million dollars a year probably to try to maintain the body and she's been When did she first broke in in like the early nineties? Right, Yeah, that's right. That's a long that's like thirty years of j Lo Jenny on the Block. Do you remember the show in

Living Color? I do. I I didn't watch it. I watched it sometimes, but it was it was it was a Fox show. It was very popular in the yearly nineties. So she was a flag girl dancer in that and that was a that's early nineties, yea. So if the miss Wayne's brothers, right, that's right, Jim Kelly was on that too. Um, if the misses getting gave you a get at jail free card and jail want to uh to lay with you one night, would you sign an n D A Like no, not not now. I mean

maybe five years ago I would have. But you know it's like, you know, look, it's when you're younger, Like you know, Pamela Anderson at one point was the hottest woman in the world, but now probably not. She's got some I got some issue is the little older down so you move on. Yeah, but some of these women j Lo some ahya, even Demi Moore, they're they're in their fifties and they still look gorgeous. Well, it's the

same concept that a lot of guys have. You know, you want to get with the beautiful person because it's it's the story of it, right, I mean, there's a story there if you were to hook up with someone along those lines. Anyway, all right, let's let's get into this embargo. Baby. So this podcast that you are listening to right now has gotten to me in trouble with the NFL, and we don't even talk about sports. Now.

Let me let me explain. I have been put on Twitter, not necessarily Twitter time out, but there's been an embargo placed on some of my work. I use social media, like pretty much everyone in this ridiculous industry, to promote content that we do, audio content that we do, to let people know where to get it and where to download. And we're trying to build up the podcast audience, which we thank you for being a member of a subscriber and all that stuff. So we were trying to build

up the podcast audience. So I send out these tweets saying, hey, so will listen to so and so and all this stuff. Blah blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah blah blah. Uh. So last week I sent a tweet out over the weekend, I said, one last chance to catch Benny versus the penny for Week three of the NFL, we give you free handicapping and opinions about all today's matchups and the Monday night football game. I sent that out in the early in the morning on on Sunday.

I'm not gonna lie. It was a scheduled tweet. I don't normally do that, but I was sleeping, so I sent that out. I said, I said download, and then I had a link. The link was to the podcast page on I think was the Apple podcast page that I happened to have a link to. And I put that out, so whatever, And then like a couple of days after that, I got a message announcing that the following material had been removed from my Twitter account in

response to a d m C A takedown notice. And that was the tweet and some schmuck, and then they included the person's name who claims to work for the NFL, saying the copyright owners the National Football League, this guy, James will call him now, he doesn't actually work for the NFL. He works for I guess a subcontractor, I think, but I don't even know that, uh that the NFL hires that to take down content. They have someone all

the time monitoring. It's like a room monitor monitoring what's up. Yeah, it's like it's like when you're on the playground. You're an elementary school and there's that that used as a woman when I was in school, I had any whistle and she'd whistle if you did something stupid, started getting a fight with somebody or something like that. Anyway, So so this I don't know. I don't much about this person. I just I've never heard of this company, but it

is subcontractor for the NFL. And they file, they complain, and the complaint appears to be that I used NFL video footage, which is copyrighted by the NFL. The problem is I didn't include any f and video. All I said was the word you know, the letter's NFL. That's all I said. Hand to god, Gascon, I showed you the email earlier, right, and now so you've told me my legal counsel's David gasking, what kind of legal training

do you have? Gas? Well, I got I'm I'm related to the former in deputy chief of l APD, if that helps. But is he's not a lawyer though your pop seeing a lawyer though, right, he's a legal expert, legal expert. Okay, I'm sure he's been in playing of courtrooms. But this is a legal matter. Because they want me to you you've advised me to counter claim. Yes, in

fact you should. I actually went to our digital department because this the d m c A basically means or it is the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, which was copyright law implemented in so it's a notice of copyright that an owner feels it was taking advantage of by someone you as a subject for obviously consent without consent purposes. So yes, you need to return fire. My bigger question is are you going to turn the dogs loose? Same way Shatner went after you and you brought the militia around.

Do turn those dogs loose again on this cat? Well? I I certainly could I have his address? You have his uh? I have his phone number which is included in this um like all that, And that's the other problem. So if I if I enter into this to to rebut the if you've never had this happen to you on on Twitter, and this is new to me. I've not surprisingly, I've not had this happen. So to counter the claim, I need to give my full legal name, my complete mailing address, my telephone number, my email, my

Twitter user and name all that stuff. Uh, and then I have to have to go point by point. There's like a I think it's like five different things that I have to do legally, uh to send it back. And it's a big pain in the ass to the the whole copyright. There's a there's an email address there I have do you copyright at Twitter dot com? Is

the email additor? Now do you feel like this is almost like being audited or if you're audited by the I R S. Once you're audited one time, then it's a consistent thing over and over again that if you know, I think no, no, I think what happened here is this guy just searched verified accounts because I wasn't. I have a list of the other accounts that this this whacka doodle attacked, I mean company with people like Yahoo was they had a d m c A from this guy.

And there's a couple of other big name like media companies that also had it. But I think what happens this guy was lazy. My theory is this guy was bat at his job and he just wanted to get this thing over with, so he just searched the letters NFL and try. You know, he just did as quickly as he could. He just threw everything out there, and he didn't actually click on the link because if you clicked on the link that it's a link to a podcast page, which I do not believe the NFL is

a copyright owner of UM. Anyways, a pain of the ask. So I will take care of that this weekend. I will counter the claim and it says I consent to the jurisdiction of the Federal District Court for the judicial district in which my address is located, and I'll accept service of process from the person who provided. So I mean this is I could be called in the court. Let's go, let's go, let's go to Yes, let's do it, man, and look at your your your family has ties to

law enforcement. I got ties the law enforcement, got a legal team to behind you. This would be this wouldn't be quite on the o J Dream team. But we're there. Yeah, Okay, let's go to work. Can you get what attorneys? You know? You know I'm gonna well, of course you got real attorneys. What kind of questions at right? You see the effort this kid's listening. We still got five stars. We as was given me a hard time. Chris said that Chris and Houston, who you you do not want on the podcast?

I want him on the podcast, but you do not want him on the podcast. You don't like him. But Chris and Houston said that I'm bad at cursing, and I'm I'm not great at cursing. And I told him I think I said this on on the Overnight show, as I said, Yeah, it's I don't want to get into the habit because it's you know, I can get a lot of trouble at the other place, and I don't want to. It's not worth it anyway. All right, the Power Lunch. Now, we've been asked by several members

of the malm Alicia here. He said, it's the fifth hour with Ben Maller and Gascon. You guys better taught me about this power lunch because we all tweeted out photos last weekend Saturday night. This past weekend, a group of radio rebels sat around eight Mexican food and told old war stories at a fine Mexican restaurant which I used to hang out at all the time when I lived in the city, This eld Coyote on Beverly Lair.

I used to live just down the street from there, in the in l a. And I was there at least once a week, probably twice a week a lot of the time. And they everyone knew me when I would go in there. But we got together. And I don't do this very often. I'm not allowed out. My my keeper does not allow me out very often. Gasking this was a special tree, but it was. It was me, Rob Parker, the Great Rob Parker, star of the Odd Couple and Boston's number one public enemy, Tom Looney, radio

legend and television Dennis Tom Looney and uh. And then we allowed you to hang on guest on for so we felt pity on you and we allowed you to hang out. Now, why was your wife's surprised that we actually had dinner outside on the patio. Yeah, I'm not a patio guy and I didn't pick the table. I'm an inside guy. Why I don't like to patty because the car could run off the road and and take you down and all that stuff. I just the inside.

I'm want the and they have more comfortable chairs inside restaurants, usually padded chairs and things like that. So yeah, if I had gotten there first, we would have been in a corner like a booth in the back is where I I used to go when I would go to that restaurant. Well, it was great weather on a Saturday night. You made me stay at the Geico Fox Sports Rado students an extra hours, so I got there a little

earlier than everybody else. I picked the table, and we went to an establishment that charged seven dollars and fifty cents for one bottle Pacifico. Yeah, and that actually leads us into some fun facts about this meat, meat and greet. Here. The only person out of the four to order alcohol was David Gascon, the only one to order outool the rest of us. We were just there to have a good time and trade stories and talk about the good old days and all that. And Gascon's like, I need

to get boozed up. What's up with that, guest. The reason I did that was because I knew I wasn't gonna get a word in. That's true. You were pretty much the audience. You were the studio audience and most of that, most of that, it was back back and forth. But yeah, you only want to order the boost. Yeah.

And here's a fun fact about I learned about David Gascon at this little get together with Rob Parker and Tom Looney went, not not only does Gascon not know how to park, he doesn't know how to read parking signs. So I mean you you have such a stigma with the parking. So we're we're there, and like I I valet park. I never valet park. I despise Valley Parking. I feel like Gascon. It's like you've run the New York Marathon and then the last half mile you you say,

all right, pushed me across the finish line. It's like, no, I want to finish the race that I started, and but I valet park because the parking at that time we had the meal is terrible in that part of Los Angeles, Like there's no it's all metered. I didn't have changed for the meter. I couldn't feed the meter. And all the side streets which I have plenty of parking,

but the people that live there. I understand they don't want people parking there because they want to park there, and so you have to have a special sticker otherwise you get a ticket. And there's signs everywhere. So I just valet parking. You think it was five fifty for valet plus tip for the valet. So I did it. And then we're at the we're at the meal and everyone's telling where they parked. And Rob Parker park he found a meter, he had some change. He parked there.

Lney found a place to park down the down the street and then gascon use. Oh I I parked on the street. I find plenty of parking. My street sign was covered by a tree. First of all, that's a long. Second of all, that is a truth. But you have a lie because you can actually put your credit card or debit card inside the meter to pay for the parker the parking meters. No, no, no, that's only some of the parking. Because it is it is. I tell

you I didn't. I went. I stopped at a parking meter and it was like one of those old school ones. So if I had seen the one with the credit card, I would have slid the credit card in and would have saved myself about six bucks or whoever it was so anyway. But but this in Genleman, not not that we know. We can't tell what it actually was said per se because that's private. I'm not gonna be Judas

here and break the bubble of trust. But we all traded stories about the silliness of working in and radio. Rob had some great stories about when he was doing local radio and Detroit and what that was like. And I told stories about San Diego and the Ben and Dave Show, and Looney was waxing poetic about York and all that nonsense, and it was great. And like, if you're a radio geek like me, if you love radio,

then I was worried, Guestcott. I I really thought I might overdose on dopamine because I was getting so much dopamine from I was getting so much joy out of all these stories. I love the stories. I mean, they're they're great. Rob was telling stories about when he was a beat writer for the for the Cincinnati Reds and lou Panella and the big Red machine of that era, the early nineties. Yeah, Rob Dibble, the whole was col

I thought. The interesting thing for for me, some of my my age group was listening to you guys because a lot of the crossover with with radio came from the Howard Stern stuff. And so yeah, yeah, we were all influenced by Howard Stern. All of us were in one way or another influenced by Stern. But not like Stern now because now Howard Stern's politically correct and he's

by the book and he's interviewing celebrities. We were all big as Howard Stern when Howard Stern was a rebel and it was the the ultimate shock jock and didn't want to hang out with any somebody. In fact, I've I think I told you a quote which is which

I stole in part by Howard Stern. Uh the uh, the fact that Howard he didn't want to be friends with celebrities because he had to be able to rip them, you know, and he felt like he felt like he became friends with these people that he wouldn't he wouldn't be able to be critical of them, right. I mean, that's a version of it. But I asked the question, uh word, did don't let a falling star fall on you? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

we I gave you that. That was I can say that a Grady Little who was the manager of the Red Sox and the Dodgers. But when he was managing the Dodgers, they had brought in a bunch of veteran players that used to be All stars and we're really good players and all that, and Grady, not on the record, but off the record, issued a statement about how one of the challenges when you're managing in the major leagues is to not allow a falling star to fall on you.

Meeting the team spends a bunch of money on a veteran player, obviously, it was kind of self explanatory. And then that player, like you know, normal Garcia Paro I think was part of those teams. Like he comes to the Dodgers. He's not anywhere as near as good as he had been for the Red Sox, but he's a falling star and he ends up falling on top of you, and then you end up losing your job. Look, Joe

Madden is a perfect example. Joe Madden. Find baseball man, renaissance man, uh, Joe Madden, and you look at what his situation in Chicago. And John Lester got old some of the players who aren't even that old have become falling stars on the Chicago Cubs are not as productive as they were supposed to be. And Joe Madden is likely going to lose his job this weekend, if he hasn't already lost his job as manager of the Cups.

But that that was and and I buried the lead by man, you buried the lead who paid the bill? You paid the bill gas guy who paid the bill? Several of you guys you want to see alligator arms? I call Kyler Murray, alligator arms Murray. But when that check came, suddenly, you know, some of these guys, am I gonna name any names, suddenly had alligator arms. They I want to go for that check. I went right in there. I unlike Cam Newton who backed away. I

jumped in on top of the fumble. That's what I did. Well, if you look at your your phone right now, there's a reason for that. But I will say this much is that let me hold on, let me look at my phone. Last time that we uh that we enjoyed a dinner. I had a I had a piggyback and carry the entire team with us, you and and Lee and uh the rest of the gang. So we gotta do more of these things. My wife does not want us to do more of these things. I loved. I

could not get enough of this. I think the best thing for or me listening to you guys talk was the satisfaction that there was absolutely no ounce of social media ever present when you guys are operating under those circumstances, because if there was, there's no chance in hell you or Rob or Looney would have gotten with half the crap that you guys did on the air or in print, because it would be it would be blasted all over social media Facebook and Twitter and Instagram, and then you

guys have get blasted right to the chest and probably out of a job in certain circumstances. Oh yeah, yeah, well under the sensibilities and the everyone's offended by something crowd, which is everybody. You know. It's like the the continually offended mob that that run around here and are triggered by everything. The you get the snowflake types and all that.

The I like to call him the Charman ultrasoft toilet paper crowd who just freak out over I mean, yeah, I mean some of the stuff that we were able to do, and I I got into the business, I said, a really good time. I even though looking back on it, I'd always said, I wish I had started a couple of years later, because when I started, it wasn't all digital and all that stuff. There was no social media, there was none of that stuff. And we had the facts of the day. We we'd have that and uh

the interaction and people would like send. I did a midday show in l A and we had tons of people that that didn't have to be provoked. They would they would, you know, send in the text of the facts of the day and then and all that. But I learned all the old equipment in radio. Man we the technology has changed. And when I first started, I was an engineer, like a board op and I had to use these real the real machines, cart machines, this old technology that no longer outside of small markets is

no longer used in in in radio. And so I learned all that, and then I had to learn everything again because they changed it all to digital, and so I had to I learned that. But as far as they like radio bits that we did, I mean, it was great, it was wonderful. It's it's stuff that people loved. And I still I get guys that listened to when they were in their twenties who are now in their forties or whatever, and they were like, oh, I love that. Why don't you do that anymore? And I'm like, well,

I can't do it anymore. Those bits. Yeah, you know, It's it's funny you say that because I grew up and I would listen to Jim Rome. But I would listen to Rome twice a day. It was when I was in San Diego. Whenever I drove back, he'd always be on simulcast or on the sumulcast. He'd have the broadcast replayed up here in Los Angeles. And so I remember my first night working here at the network, working overnight on your show, and I thought exactly that. I

was like, who the fund is this guy? Like he is, He's a breath of fresh air. You get the monotone dudes that are the nine, you know, nine to twelve or the twelve, the threes that are always the same stick and spiel, And then I had no idea for the longest time who you were. And then I remember it. I was like, wait a minute, this guy, lets it rip.

I didn't You were the first guy I had remember listening to prior to Jim Rome that actually turned loose on stuff as opposed to the regular black and white box score material. This is how the show's gonna be. It's all structured, and maybe we'll dip into a couple of phone calls. Yeah, well kind of you guess. Look at you buttering my biscuits there. I appreciate. But I believe that is good radio. I think that's good talk, good audio content is uh. When you become you have

to be passionate. That's what I was told, you know, and I believe it to be true. I don't even be told it, but I was been repeated many times. Um find I just heard from one of my old program directors who was a big influence on me, Mike Thompson, who I love. The great guy. Helped me out a lot, and he's a radio lifer and I just had had some great memories with him. He worked all over the place. He's actually now just got a job in Omaha at the Fox affiliate in Omaha, so he was he was

texting me the other morning. But like the philosophy, I I don't like listening playing it down the middle. I feel like that's terrible. Well, we we shouldn't form an opinion yet, we should wait until this, you know, this game is over and then well, you know, no, I mean that's not how it works anyway. I not that you have to be completely unhinged and illogical and all that, but it generally makes for better radio. If you're stark,

raving mad. Uh, you know what I mean, if you're if you're not a little bit on that, you're not a little psycho and wacko, it's usually a pretty boring radio thing. And moving on. We I had to study this. That's next, guest, when you're ready for study this, Yeah, let me ask you. How was the What was the reception like for your audience last week when we did the food picks and the uh, the destinations of where you're gonna die in the United States? Any kind of

response to that. Well, I did guess and people were shocked that we did thirty minutes on the causes of death in states that they were. They were surprised that we did that, and uh, completely understandable. I didn't get much reaction from the food stuff. I thought the food stuff was pretty good. Well, because you can't see it, That's why yeah, what did your wife think about your favorite STD? Any any kind of thoughts from her? Well,

she and we disagree. We debated. She has a different favorite STD, and so we we got a whole argument, me and the wife. You know. We yeah, yeah, we we'll get some marriage counseling in here about this trip. We'll be all right, alright, yeah, alright, So study this. These are actual studies. Now, I have an obsession. If you know, over the years, you listen to the show, and you're obviously if you're you're a super fan. If you're listening to this, you're Matar, militia person, p one

all that. So you know this probably, but maybe not, maybe you're new to the show. I love studies now I have a love hate relationship. But these are usually university studies, but sometimes they're commissioned by non universities or whatever, and I would love hate. So a lot of this is just bullshit. It's just absolute bullshit. So we're gonna play game on study. This is this legit or is it bullshit? With these studies? Now, for example, this one I saw this week, it's fake it till you make

It's called imposter syndrome. And this is when people feel like frauds, even if they are actually capable, well qualified for what they're doing. And they say it's more common of people who are of college age, like college students. It's about of college students suffer from what they call imposter syndrome. We're experiencing something new. They they're outside their comfort zone and whatnot, and they feel like they don't belong there. So is this legit or is this bullshit?

I actually think this is legit, guest, because yeah, I I know. When I first got on a the mighty six nineties, this huge radio station, I was like, man, I don't belong here. These people are better than me. You know what. When I did Dodger Talk for the first time, I was like, man, I I hope they don't listen, because man, I'm bad at this and I don't belong here and these people are great and I don't. So I definitely have felt that at times in my life.

I have you, Yeah, I did. When I first got into the industry, I started from the ground up, though I don't know how you got in, but I was a technical director, and then I was a producer, and then I became an anchor, but that first time red lights came on and microphone pop, I was like, wait a minute, I'm talking the thousand words a minute and trying to emulate other people. I just felt like I was I was a small fish and a giant pond. Yeah, I was. I felt that way a couple different points.

I mean, they would bring in big name stars of television or our sports and stuff, and and it was always, you know, it's like, what what am I doing here? You know? I mean, I'm I'm from settled back college. I'm not supposed to be hanging out. But you gotta get over that, and you get over it. But I do think imposter syndrow. I think it's more than I think it's. I think it's a lot of you. If you get your dream job, whatever that might be, and you're when you first start, it's you're trying to get

your sea legs underneath you and all that. So I I believe in the imposter syndrome. A moving on spread the bad news. Now, this got my attention because every once in a while, guess gun, some foolish, incoherent nutball will send me an email saying, you know you're so negative, you are such a negative Nellie. You know you're such a barbaric, heartless bastard. You know, give me this whole

rant about it. I need to be more positive. Well, the reason I am the way I am is because I know human nature, guest gun, and I was backed up by his study. Obviously, this makes me feel better because I agree with it. But here's the study. Negative news. The reason it gets broadcast and published online more than positive news is because, according to a new global study, on average, humans tend to react more strongly to negative information.

And when you're in the media business, a lot of this is trying to get a reaction out of people. And that is an example of that. I already knew you know how I knew this, guest going. You know how I knew this when I did Dodger Talk years ago and when the Dodgers would in no calls, nobody cared. When the team lost, it was fire the fire, the manager, fire the GM whoever the star player was wasn't performing well, get rid of him. But then the even more confirmation.

For about two years, I was the fill in guy on Red Sox Review, which is the Boston version of Dodger Talk. After Red Sox games on EI, so I would come on. I didn't do it all the time. I did it maybe a couple of days a week after Red Sox games. And I noticed the same exact thing when the Red Sox like last year, and when the Red Sox won that they said a record for wins for the franchise. I believe a hundred eight wins

or whatever it was. That was tough because they almost never lost, you know, and I and and people wouldn't react. They didn't have nothing to complain about. Now, I will say one thing about Boston a little more than l A is that they can find something to complain about. Like the team could be when fifteen out of seventeen, they'll be like, well, I think the other shoe is gonna drop. But still it generally speaking, it was if the team was not playing well, people would be arms,

arms in the air and all that stuff. So I have this to me is confirmation corroboration of what I already what are you? Yeah, I believe I would rather look at a car crash than I would see like a wedding or proposal. In fact, you bring up a great story. And I thought about this just now because you know, the whole Antonio Brown. I'm taking a hot air balloon into into wine country for you know, for the Oakland writers in their training camp and NAPA nobody,

nobody really cared about that. But there's a Twitter account called Darwinism and I watched this on loop yesterday where this guy took a hot air balloon and it wasn't out in the middle of nature, it wasn't out in the middle of just green passes everywhere. He brought this hot air balloon into the middle of a city and they got tripped up by power cables and power lines. And you hear the person that was recording this saying, get out of the way, get out of the way.

And this hot air balloon goes cray asking these power cables and you just see this giant explosion. And I was enamored with it and just kept watching it a loop on a loop on a loop, and I was like, you know, who could give a shit about Antonio Brown? But I would watch this over and over again, even though I know that the outcome is you know, you're a morbid person. We we not me? No, I don't know, okay,

because you'd sent me some morbid stories that videos. When I was in uh, I was uh junior high or high school, it was like faces of Death. Yeah yeah, that was like a big thing before the Internet. It would show people meeting their device right, or they'd be somewhere, like a parent would hold their kid from getting run over by a train that was coming through an expressway. Things like that and just avoiding death at like a

narrow margin. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, those are good. So you watch those, don't act like I'm the only one that's more I like your man, if my friends would be my my guys would be like, hey, you gonna check this out. You're not above it. But the problem it isn't like today where you could just go on your phone. These are kids today you had to like go to there were VHS tapes. You had to find this stuff. I mean it was hard to find, you know. But I won't watch anything that has death in it.

If people are survived, it's it's available. If they die, I'm not gonna go searching for it, like on Reddit or some of these other backdoor websites or anything like that. Uh, I didn't know read it was a backdoor website. Well, they have links to those different things I read. I read an article yesterday. I read it that had which is being contaminated right now by manufacturers in Bangladesh for lead. There's lead that's being deposited into some of these stuff.

That's not globally right, it's it is. People are that stuff all the time online, especially through Amazon and some of the other websites and whatever. I should tell my wife. She loves that tumor rex. She's all about the tumor rex, so she should probably stopped taking them. Well, if he's not getting from Bangladesh, Bangladesh. Yeah, all right, let's see what is next year we're doing study this. How about click any click? Uh? There's a new stuff the out

that explains how clickbait works. This is what I wanted to know. They say the reason people are pretty much helpless to avoid clickbait they have to click on it because there's the promise of compelling information and it's I used the word dopamine earlier. They say it's a it's a dopamine path away. They claim that dopamine is released and creates that itch that can only be scratched by clicking on the clickbait because you have to obtain the

promised information. Essentially, it is the human condition. We are all wired, every man, woman and child the same way. We need information because of our safety or whatnot, to persent we we live and we feed on information, right, we're all of us. We need to know about things.

Were curious people most people are. Uh. And they say another way that clickbait lures people in is they say it's like the Vegas effect because of there's there's this variable ratio rein forcement, which is a lot of big words of scheduled kind of in gambling, with the slot machines and all that, the noises, no clocks in the slot machine, the little tricks they do in casinos to

keep you around. But they say, the clickbait headlines, according to this study, make make make us curious and see what's behind the curtains, Like you want to see You want to peek behind the curtain, see what the you just see a little taste of the story that makes sense. It makes sense. And people complain about clickbait, but you know it ain't going away. And Uh, if you don't

want clickbait, stay off the internet. I think clickbait only comes for for most part, it's usually with videos now right, you have like a fifties second or fifteen second or video feature, and it just teases it and then you get the article it's deposited inside, or you've got some sexually provocative pictures that accompany a meaningless article which you don't really want to, you know, click on, but you do so because you want to see what's behind. TV

does it all the time. Radio doesn't. Yeah, we do it all the time. We do it in radio. Of course. We want people to You want people to not click. You want to mistay. You don't want to have people to to leave. We tease all the time, and sometimes I'll forget, certainly my guys don't remind me, and then two hours later I'm paying off the tease. No, I'm onto something else. No. What about the blue light? Have you? Have you read about that much? The blue light effect

on your brain? Were doctors have talked about the effects of looking at your cell phone too much and that blue light impact your your eyes and also your brain the dopamine, which could impact your ability to lose weight, get proper sleep. They say that you should not look at your phone in the first sixty minutes of when you wake up and don't look at your phone or a computer two hours before you go to bed, just because of the way that it wires your brain and

rewires it. You know. My my wife, you sound like a hippie. My wife who's a hippie um, and she's into all the special vitamins and all the New Age stuff and all the supplements. She got me. She she she reads these stuff online. She got me these glass because she read the same thing you read a while ago. And so she got me these glass because I'm on the computer all the time and I put some stuff down and I try to put some notes down for Benny versus the penny during the week or whatever before

I go to bed. And so she she knows this, and she got me these these glasses that are supposed to help you with the lights so it doesn't affect you. They're like you know, and I I used them like for I don't even know where they are now. I used them for a couple of weeks there. That was right up there with the other thing my wife. There was the Himalayan Salt lamp, which she she got me because it's supposed to help your I don't know what

it helps with. But she told me some story she read somewhere, and so she got this this big Himalayan salt lamp and I used it for like two weeks and then that was it. Didn't use it again. It's disappeared. I don't know where it is, but it's not here. But keep in mind with what your wife does for a living, she's got opportunities to listen and read information and educate herself, as opposed to picking up some tabloid magazine and just taking a verbatim and saying, all right, here,

try this, honey. It's not like she's ordering something that's from India and saying, hey, Ben, try this sound and see if it works. I don't know. Maybe it did come from media. We got a problem with up that you don't like curry. Shame on you like USA American? May you ever had Indian food? I have actually had last night here in the studio by somebody else. Yeah, we got an Indian restaurant that's like right up the street.

Who paid for the food? Last one of your old technical directors, Alex Tisher, to do with long hair and must be vegan. No it was not. But he's got a disturbing tattoo in the back of his neck. So my food and almost was regurgitated. So Tisher has a tattoo in the back of his He's got a tramp stamp on the back of his neck. Yes, he does, well, he maybe does. I've never he has long hair. I don't usually see the back of his neck. He just got it on what you guys were doing. He just

got it and he was flawning it. So don't know. It was some kind of it was like some kind of Greek Greek language in the back of his neck. I think it was. I don't know exactly. I was working, I wasn't paying attention much to it. I was bragging about it on the air with a couple of their hosts. By the way, I don't know, but this is new information. Next time I see Tysher, I'm gonna have to quiz him. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live. That's that reminds me back to our Power Launch or Power Dinner. I got so much heat from the staff here about going to dinner with you guys. Why did I get an invitation? Why don't you guys tell us about this? Da da da da. It is amazing what happens when you get together with fellow employees outside the the confines of It's

very rare. We you know, in the early days, even if Fox Sports Radio in the other places I worked, they used to have you know, team bonding get togethers where you go and do some activity together. We haven't done that in years. Plus. A lot of the talk show, like Clay Travis does the show from from Nashville. There's

uh r J Bells in Vegas. I mean, these guys aren't even in l A where you know, a lot of the shows are in l A. But they're all over the But the some of the guys that we have on Dan Patrick does the show from Connecticut, but he's on the on the network and uh, you've got rich eyes and doesn't from a TV studio. Uh yeah, Colin Cowherd does it from the Fox lot in West l A. So he's not in the building that we're in.

So it's, uh, everyone's all over the place. But yeah, we should do those those money But like I would like to do these these again. I don't know, like this should be like once every other month or something like that. I don't think I can get it every I then my wife will kill me if I do it every month, but like once every other month, and

we could. You know, we can come up with a list here of when you love of like people we should hang out with that do we know in the business, Well, that have to be good storytellers like Looney's great at telling story is. And the cool thing about going I'm

as an introvert. The reason I love hanging out with Looney is because I don't feel the pressure to talk because I know if there's any pause in the conversation, uh, that Looney will pick it up right, he will pick it up and he will do what he asked to do to enhance the conversation. I don't have to worry about I think what we need to do is just make sure that you're willing and able to drive from

Arizona out to the west side of town. Because no, this is good because you know, when I lived in the city, I had all the restaurants in l A. We still go to a lot of those places. Next time we should go to Fat South is what we ought to do. That's a great We can actually do the podcast from there. That place is open until I think three or four o'clock in the morning. Yeah, no, it's great. And is uh there's one in Encino's one

in Uh. Of course you want the one in Encino because it's close to unless she's not close to you, it's close to where you work. But there's one in The one I usually go to is in l A. Just south. I think what street is a Highland? I think it is just down from Hollywood. Yeah, yeah, just down from there. I hang out there. That used to be a real CD They race lived near there, and that was that street at night was where the hookers were.

That was where the prostitutes would walk the streets there, And they weren't always they were not always women, They were not always women guests. How did you find that out? I heard a friend had told me about that that that was there was used to be a taco stand right on the corner down there, and that was apparently where everyone would hang out in that that particular. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but it's not my my cup of team. We're doing study this what is next?

We did click any click? How about push it real good? Uh? It says here that that a study has discovered that introverts like me are happier after pushing themselves socially, And uh, I don't. I think this is actually more bullshit than anything, because I don't like I I pushed my off a little bit this past weekend at that dinner thing we had, but I don't I don't feel happier because of it. I don't think that's the right, the right, the way I will tell you that. I'll go back to the

thing that was like a three hour meal. That was a long I mean that was like that was the kind of thing when you're a kid and your parents would talk to like your aunt or your I used to go out my my auntie VI and my mom would go out and they would just talk and it would be like I want to get out of the restaurant and they're telling stories and I'm like, I don't want to hear your stupid story. Take me home. And uh That's what it was like. But fortunately there were

no kids there, so it was all right. We just we just kept going that's perfect. Yeah, And we didn't even eat a lot we had. I had some street tacos. I think you had some tacos. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't need that much. I mean that the chips, which were good. The other problem, here's another reason I don't like eating outside. You don't get the chips replenished as off. When you're inside, the chip person comes around all the time.

But when you're outside of a Mexican restaurant, and it works the same way with Italian restaurants with the bread they don't bring, the bread is off and when you in at an outside table part of their rotation. I don't think us uh as as guys are looking to lose weight and need all the chips and bread and salsa and all that stuff. Well, I have shut up speak for yourself. It's like a cheap meal. When I'm on a cheap meal, I eat like I eat like

the old guy back in the old desks. I go big because I don't eat much as you know, guess because you send me that food point you schmuck uh And so I don't need a lot during the week, but I try to have a nice, hearty meal on the weekend at least, you know what I'm watching or looking out on Instagram. It's nothing that's uh always say platonic between two people. It is all food porn. Yeah, it's a lot of and this stuff stuff really good, but you never actually want to go to any of

those restaurants. So it's you know, they're probably all over. Now are the Are the Bend Mallard chicken fingers actually legit? Are they good? They are really good? Yes, yes, No. If you go to Kansas City at any point, you've got to do it. It's it's in the Kansas City area. The chicken fingers are all right. We'll let me tell you some guests. Gun all the food dishes that bear my name, and there aren't very many, but these food dishes that are part of the Mallard brand are wonderful.

All they are. I mean the the Mallard chicken fingers, which have been at three different restaurants, three different restaurants in Kansas City, and the price has gone up because they're so damn popular there. They're so they're so amazing. People love that and they can't get enough. And we had the Mallard Fowler, which is at the I think I've told you this before. I think we talked about

this in the original podcast. But the Mallard Fowler is available in a strip club, the Ballet Yeah, in Lawrence, Kansas and uh yeah, and the guy, the guy that put it together, Uh, he is a big fan of the show. He doesn't live in Lawrence. He drives at night after the show and he's a big fan and he wanted to honor us and all that and so, uh yeah, it was, it was. It was pretty cool. You know, you need something in the UK, I feel because you have stuff in the United States. But I

think Terry is in the UK one of your listeners. Yeah, that would be cool, man, That would that would really inspire me to go to the UK to go to the restaurant because I've I've i gotta get to the place that there's I think it's where it for. I used to have a pizza named after me in Grand Rapids, Michigan. But he do not believe that still exists. I believe that items off the table. We had some some big

super fans and Syracuse. The one that started this was a restaurant in Syracuse that had the uh had a sandwich that was named after us and it was great and uh that that was awesome back in the old days. But now we have the at the Flamingo. I'll give you the list here Gascon. It's the famous Flamingo Club in Lawrence, Kansas. It's called called the Bird by the locals there. And they have the Mallard Fowler. It's a

mouth watering chicken sandwich. It's it's absolutely great. I believe the reason that Kansas has had such great basketball teams over the years is because of the Mallard Fowler. I believe that to be true. Uh. And then we also have in Denver, which you you're a big Bronco guy, so when you go to a Bronco game next time, we have the uh the the wonderful restaurant in Denver, the sports Book Bar and Grill in Denver, and they've got the Mallard's breaded chicken sandwich, which is hand battered,

delicious breast of chicken tossed in. They put that Frank's red sauce on it. And now I they have the lettuce in the tomato and the cheddar cheese. I choose no tomato, no lettuce. I don't okay with the cheddar cheese. And uh, and here's a fun fact about that gascon in a Denver Bronco player Denver Bronco player was arrested outside and released from the Broncos practice squad because he got hammered at the brookside of Bar and Grill and was like running from the police and hiding in mulch

outside the sports book Bar and Grill there. And there's two locations there. There's one in Greenwood Village, Colorado, and there's another one, so there's two different locations. And then then the we had the landing Eatey and Public Liberty, Missouri. That's the one with the chicken finger. Yeah. I twittered at them to actually disband that food item. I remember that two years ago. So you don't you have food dishes, but you don't have a drink yet. You need a cocktail,

whether it's beer or a mixed drink. At least that would be good. I I like that and it would be nice if you know, we we need every region of We have a lot. We're very big in the mountain and the the like the Kansas City, Missouri area that it were very big, but we'd like to expand you know, there's there's a whole mallard food brand on

the East Coast. I mentioned we had the guy in Syracuse Vetos Pizza and Seafood, which was right near the Carrier Dome there in Syracuse, and they had the mal Zone which was this that was I forgot the name, but it was the mal Zone that they named after like a cow zone, but it's the mal Zone. And uh it was. It was a good, good deal. People love that man. That was popular. But they sold the restaurant and the new owners didn't know who the hell

I was. They got rid of it and they But but usually what I've learned from people and then we got a lot of a lot of guys and ladies or whatever that listen to the show that earned the restaurant business the culinary business. And I've learned that one of the biggest expenses for restaurants is to change the menu.

So once you get something on the menu and it makes the menu that they give out the people in the restaurant, generally that stays on the menu for a long time because it's a pain in the ask to change it. Yeah, and usually you're hoping that that item stays in the middle of the menu, not the top, and not the bottom. You need to be right smacked out in the middle, because it's usually where the focus

and attention for customers goes right to the middle. All right, let's do a couple more here are you this one? We're doing study this, we'll get to it's we have We've got a lot to do still, By god, we'll have to pick up the pace here. Uh, how about this recipe for high school popularity? How do you become popular in high school? They've done a study. This is Florida Atlantic University. They have they have researched this and they have concluded that the most popular teenagers in high

school have two different qualities. They describe it as Macavellian like is what they say. And essentially what it is is that that teenagers that are more popular are both aggressive and manipulative when it serves their purposes. But then they quickly like their bipolar and they switch over and they're nice and lovable and agreeable. But that's every teenager, isn't it. That's what I'm thinking, Like, this is this bullshit? Every teenagers like that right there there, the whole thing

and their bodies changing and all that stuff they're going through. Uh, you know, the hormones and all that. So everyone's like that. They claim it, they say they said it was like Mean Girls the movie remember that movie from like fifteen years ago? Whatever? Mean Girls? Uh, you know, I was a check flick. I didn't. I didn't check it out, didn't Were you like that? Were you like that in high school? Popular? No? I was not popular. I was not.

I was Uh no, I mean I had my group of friends and all that, but I was not I I was. I was an introvert then I was socially awkward and things like that. It was, you know, not not my not my seed. You were like six five six six, and you're an introvert at that time. Uh yeah, oh yeah, absolutely. Last last study this how much money do you spend on a Halloween costume? Halloween is gonna be here before you know it. There's a new study out. Take a guest guest on how much did the average

Americans spend on a Halloween costume? Um, okay, I will say, because you said average American, I will say sixty dollars. But one stipulation, I will say females spend double the amount that males do. Yeah, well, you went too high. You went too high. It's because you gotta remember, some people have spend nothing, so the the averages though, you've got people that spend a lot, and people have spending

the average costumes thirty one. The people's that you get like a mask for that, some makeup for something like that. Guys can do like adjacent mask where a goalie mask and that's it. Yeah, fright of the thirteen whatever, Freddy Cougar, Yeah, easy, pas here right, all right, moving on, in the bag. It's in the bag. These are actual emails. We won't do too many of these because they suck. I will do a few of these. One was the live this one, David, When was the last time you went bowling? I think

we were asked this on the radio show. I don't know, maybe this was a repeat. I I've gone bowling maybe once in the past twenty years, maybe twice. I had a good time. I love that bowling is the number one participation sport, and more people participate in bowling than any other sport. Uh, what you big bowling? That's the thing we could do that we could get the guys together and go bowling. Instead of eating food, we could just eat at the bowling down. You know bowling. I

went bowling three weeks ago. Three weeks ago, we got a date or something. No, by, I did go I want with some some friends and uhyeah, it was a random night out and nothing else to do. So yeah, what Chris says, can you do a deep dive on Marcel? No, Chris, I mean there's not much. There's not much to Marcel. He's a very basic person. He he thinks he is breaking news on our show. I love that. I love with Marcel because he doesn't listen all he calls up. He wakes up and calls the show the last hour.

But you encourage it, and that's what makes it so bad. No, I love that in Marcel's head he is Walter Cronkite before the Internet, you know what I mean. Like he is breaking news and it's great. He's sitting in you know, in an apartment in a bad part of Brooklyn, eating oodles and noodles from Marcel. But for him this is like the highlight. He is a national star on the radio, and I feel good. I feel good because, well, it

is terrible radio most of the time. I get a kick out of I think it's funny that he's so into these stories that he gives and the food picks thing. He didn't even realize we're goofing on him the food picks. That's that's great. And then his player of the Week or Player of the night when Marcela does that. Really, the main reason we have him do that is because he'll mispronounce names, but lately he's just been saying names

he knows how to pronounce, which isn't very good. But he he butchered Kauai Leonard and Pascal uh and those guys during the NBA Finals. It was great. Um, what's like John? Why is Blair known as whoopee Pie Blair? Well, uh, we were originally gonna call him the Blair Witch Project, but he was offended by that, and so he originally called the show from l a from Orange County. He moved to Maine several years back. And what is main known for gascon? What is Maine known? Not a damn thing.

That's that's incorrect. It is known for the whoopie pie. The whoopie pie is associated with me, and so that is why we do the whoopie pie Blair. It's one of the foods. It's kind of in that region. Is known, you know the main whoopie pie and so there you go, simple enough? Uh Ray says, have you been watching Ken Burns country documentary on PBS its musty TV? Uh? Ray, No,

I have not. I would like to the problem is I I can't schedule to watch it at the times it's on because I'm working and watching games or whatever. Um And I tried to. I had my wife on the hunt for this gast Gone because I heard. I love good documentaries and I want to watch it, but I can't. I can't watch it on demand. I don't believe there's a way without paying uh you know, a certain amount. I can't watch it like PBS. I feel like you shouldn't have to pay for PBS s you know.

Uh And but but yeah, I'd like to watch it if it's available, if somebody knows a link, If it's on YouTube, somebody put it on there. If it's available somewhere else, I would love to watch it. Uh. I think it was Looney that told me he was watching it. He said how great it is, and there's a lot of radio reference. I'm not I'm not a huge country music I love Johnny Cash, but I feel like he's a crossover. Um, but I would I would check that out.

Have you seen any of that? I have not. No. In fact, the last documentary I did see was the one that you referred me to. Wasn't Getting Roger Scott Roger Scott Roger Stone. Yeah, Yeah, that's good. I think it was going That was a well made document was was fire. He's he's going to jail probably right now he's he's he's going broke. I know that all is legal costs that are mounting up, but it was a really good documentary. One of the great characters and politics

in the history of the United States. Right, So it's grab bag. These are actual questions by actual listeners like yourself. What does weed Man have to apologize for? All? Right? First of all, I'd say just being weed Man and being a beggar and all that stuff. He should have to apologist for that, because it's you know, he's he's trying to hit up and panhandle so many of my

my core p one people, so that's annoying. But the second thing is that he had a he had a hissy fit because he was panhandling on the internet and some one of our our our friends, I think she was in Syracuse one a very nice woman, big fan of the show, and she she was gonna send weed Man some money, and she announced it on Twitter that she was gonna PayPal weed Man some money. So I told her not to do it because I don't know, I mean, I don't want to encourage this activity, right,

I don't want to encourage his idiot. And so he got all upset. And then he read on the internet that I was worth like three million dollars or some some crap like that, which is total bullshit. And uh, he read that on the internet, and then he he made all these derogatory like and I'm I'm fine with derogatory comments, but he crossed the line, even for my sensibilities, and I'm pretty open to this stuff. And uh, and so he has to apologize. And if he doesn't apologize,

he's not welcome back. And it seems like he's not coming back. He's called a couple of times, but he has been unable to. He's so prideful that he cannot handle the scrutiny that we're giving him. So but he does have to apologize for they the comments he made on social media and all that stuff. So good riddance, Ozzy Momentum writes in this is one of our international listeners. He writes, and he says, out of the following between Gascon and Ben, please let us know if you could

please who. I guess who would win this, I think is what he's asking. An arm wrestling contest, an archery tournament, a mini golf match, tequila shooter drink off, and a hundred meter sprint. Now I know I would kill you at miniature golf, you have no chance. I think I would be pretty good at archery. Uh, you're an alcoholic, so you'd win the to the to key of things. That's not sure. You've got like the andre the giant advantage where you can drink more than I can just

because of body arm wrestling. I don't know. You seem like a meathead like you work out a lot, so I were. I work out, but I do more cardio. I don't do the weights as much so, but you're I'm left handed, you're right handed, and I have a surgically repaired right rotator cuffs, so you probably have the advantage of you asked on that that'd be good ud sprint boy, If you can't beat me, your pathetic. So I can probably do that back where it's backpedaling. That's fine.

I don't know about that. Bobby right City says, can you please pick college spreads? Uh? Maybe in the second hour like a Benny versus the Penny of the college edition. So I was gonna ask you about this, and I had an idea of what we should do or could do. Is that starting next week as we should do a quick uh promo video for Benny versus the Penny, but you provide a college pick one college pick, we do it for video form only, and then we attach it

to your Twitter handle, so like the handicap e college. Yeah, I maybe we could mess around with that. I mean, usually there's three or four big college games on a weekend. Sometimes there's only one. Let's do one for Fox. Then we'll do the Fox because Big Noon usually celebrates one game that happens at twelve or one o'clock Pacific. We could do that one game. Hopefully want to have the n C double a that writes us season assist letter.

But we'll try to overcome that. Yeah, exactly, all right? Uh? That what else? Valls fan Jimmy says, I'm adding about ten people at work the graveyard shift. He says, I got half of the third shift listening to the to the show. Well, thank you, Jimmy. I appreciate that. That that's the that's the best kind of advertising. You're gonna have, the word of mouth advertising getting people in us. All right,

tied it out for don't stick to sports. These are stories that David gast John found that have nothing to do with sports, pretty much like the entire podcast. So give me a couple of these stories, guest gon, we'll put the baby to bed. Here we go. I didn't realize there was an agency for this, but here we go. When not to get your hands dirty if you are

a cop. Now there's a designated agency that certifies and disciplines all police officers in Utah, and they've taken another step towards that by banning sexting and masturbation while on duty. You heard that right then, So now I don't know what you do during the advertising breaks, but I don't ever recall like the desire to shake loose for a bit. Anyways, The Utah Peace Officer Standards and Training Council reportedly found that there weren't any rules explicitly in place for forbidding

this practice. So naturally they provide some guidelines where they expanded to include the forbidding of an officer in uniform to send sexually explicit pictures. Thank you very much. Hutah. So you're more familiar with, like the inner workings of police, is there a lot of Is masturbation a big problem with the police? I don't know. I'm not a police off joys masturbation, but they do it while there. It worked, you know, in a squad car. People got a thing

for the uniform. Do you want to see a mag light? I've read stories before that there's some women, like a certain percentage of women like it's on their bucket list too, stoop a police officer, like at work, like while they're in uniform, Like there's some And so I don't think that that anyone in radio field, Like there's no group of like female groupies that want to do that while you're in radio. I don't think maybe not, maybe it's

like rock radio, but but yeah, that's uh wild. Well, I'm happy you brought that up because that actually leads me to, uh tell my next story. We always have different stories about relationships, broken, repaired, whatever, We're gonna go on that beaten path again. A twenty six year old woman fell in love at her wedding all over again. Great story, right, Yeah, wrong, Ben, This one fell in love with a forty nine year old d J. It

was her DJ. The woman was married for less than a year, but felt neglected and unhappy when she randomly bumped into the DJ again. The two started getting together, chatting, texting, whatever it may be. Eventually they fell in love and they got married. How about that? So she's twenty six and he's right? All right? So so I don't know anything about these people, have no idea. But where where did this happen? Where was this in the UK? I was in the UK? Yeah all right, I don't know.

I thought I thought this happened to the U S. But what whatever, Mike whoever ended up getting the more good for that person, because I mean, this woman is crazy, right, I mean, what are you doing? Well, it's huge because you booked the job and then you booked the chick. Yeah, I mean for the for the DJ. From his perspective, I mean, this is a major score. The guys almost fifty years old, he's with the twenty six year old

I mean that, you know, that's a that's wild man. Well, he actually had a way to break her down because he had explained to her when they started getting together that he had just end day twenty six year long marriage. So he was able to break down her walls, if you will, and then eventually win the day. Oh yeah, Well, you could become a wedding DJ guest. Find a woman. That way, you can go out and perform at weddings. I guess you could do that, right, Just I'm Ben Mellot,

talk show host right here on Fox Sports Radio. We don't have to say that. I mean I could do like bar mitz vis and birthdays and stuff. You could do that, but then I'd have to be in front of people and would be awkward. For Yeah, we'll speaking of awkward. How about this? This would be perfect for California, But I'm sure we'll get some sensitive people objecting this. A South Korean mayor tried sending a message to environmental campaigners.

Oh I saw this. He actually ordered dumping of collected trash onto a local beach. So what he basically did was he ordered truck loads of trash and hundreds of volunteers. The next day, how to pick it up as part of an international coastal cleanup day. Yeah, so essentially, the way I saw this story is that the beach was clean. There was no trash on the bleach, the beach, but they were. But they were doing an environmental day where

they had a beach clean up. So you can't have a beach clean up if there's no trash on the beach to clean up, right, other one, what are you doing? Bunch of idiots? So so he called in the dump trucks, the poor, trash, all of it. I saw that before. This is an elected official, right, this is this is a dumb dumb what a what a freaking moron? I mean, my goodness, you're talking about us the word dingle berry, that is dingle berry. But the fact that I got

a hundred volunteers to actually participate in this is another thing. Yeah, I mean, what a bunch of ignoramus is there? I mean that is that is a shrewd level of dumbness, is what that is? It is? Now, how abouch? How about this one? I I hate flying, but I love to travel. Now I know you hate flying and you hate getting out of the the house, So this won't really

apply to you, you know, I I don't. I I like going places, but the actual process of traveling and I'm not a fan of the planes are not designed for people like me. They're not. They're designed for little people. Yeah, but you really hate being around people anyway. So if I was, if I was a dwarf, I would love flying because I would fit in every every aisle. It wouldn't matter at all. But I'm not. I'm I'm oversized, lug fair enough now anyways, Japan Airlines is helping out

passengers with a roadmap. I don't know if you've heard about this, but the airline has created a new tool that lets passengers avoid infants when they book a seat. Now, the website will display passengers with children that are between the ages of eight days and two years old on an icon, so you can know exactly who to avoid and who to sit next to you. They only catch though,

as this icon shows up. If you book a flight on their website, you can't go to a third party and identify the children on the flight, so you can't save money on the You have to pay more a premium because they charge more on the airline websites. Usually all right. Couple of things. Hey, this sounds is one of these things in life that sounds great in theory. It's kind of like, you know, you date a beautiful woman and then you feel like you realize that she's

she's a basket case. You know, it sounds on the outside she looks good, but the her, you know, she all messed up or whatever anyway on the inside, So it sounds good in theory. I get that. Number two, it's my experience with kids on planes, Like the main reason you don't want to be near a child because they're gonna gonna cry and whatnot on the plane and disrupt your your flight. But to me, it doesn't matter

whether you're in there. You might not be next to the infant, but if they're crying on a in a tube in the sky, and if they're loud enough, it's going to affect the entire plane, So it doesn't really I mean, this is this, what's the what's the end game? What's the accomplishment on this? And you know you know what I mean. I mean, it's like you're you're not You're trying to avoid the noise, but you can't avoid it. You are stuck in a traveling tube in the sky,

you know, all the noise you're gonna hear it. Yeah, I mean there's only two things I want to avoid when I'm on a big flight going a long ways. That is the the uh laboratories and the emergency exits. Because the emergency exits you don't have that that television that's in front of you. And the laboratory the door opens up right where your seat is. Actually had that happened to me when I went to Europe over the

summertime and I was on a Virgin Atlantic flight. Flight was packed and I had nowhere else to go, so I was I'll shoot out of luck for ten hours. So that's a brutal spot to be in. Yeah, my my tips on traveling. And I did travel for years, like I would go back to the East Coast a lot, did that TV thing for for about a year, which every month and then uh, just my other travels. But I I like the exit row because you have more leg room. Yeah, that's like one of the special for me.

The extra row is not a problem. And I don't eat on planes. I don't because I don't want to have to use the bathroom. I don't want to have to go to the laboratory. I try not to drink that much until we get late into the flight, because then I know that I can make it to the airport and I can usually commode at the airport and all that stuff. But it, you know, it's the other than that. I mean, it's not me. I don't eat the I don't pay for it. I don't pay for

the add ons. Some people pay for the ad or I don't pay for the adam all right, Betty, last one. The University of Canterbury left his stinke recently and it's not good for anyone involved. Two months, nothing was realized until campus police in christ Church, New Zealand went into a dorm room and it discovered a body. It was the body of a first year student who had died. Now, the body had not been discovered until then, after two months. It had been decomposing in there for sixty days before

anyone had discovered him. The body had been untouched for such a long period of time that they had to bring in forensic officers to come in and take fingerprints, d n A and also collect dental records to identify the kid. This is this is amazing to me. So the flesh is row, the guy dies, and then nobody like he has no friends how I mean no friends? No, I guess I think I read his family was trying to get ahold of him, but they couldn't get ahold of him. He was far away from where he grew

up or whatever. And the only the only ounce of of observation from students was that they had gone on vacation for two weeks and came back and they still couldn't find him or they didn't know where he was at. But two weeks, that's nothing compared to eight weeks, right. Well. The other thing, the other thing too, is like don't you get mail? Isn't usually the post office if you're not collecting your mail or things like that, or you're

not playing your bills, you know what I mean? Like nothing that's not on a dorm though, And the dorm usually have those, uh the mailboxes when you enter the dorm facilities, so you just load your mail up in there. They put it in for you and pull it out

whenever you get a chance, and never dorm. So but I know that, but I have heard stories like if sometimes the postal employees like that that are hurt, like if if someone's not picking up their mail, they will sometimes you know, they'll they'll try to knock on the door. They might even do a wellness check, call for a wellness check, to try to that's brutal man, that's you kind of nobody to look after what that's sad man. How does that happen in a it's not a third

world country, New Zealand. Those are my people, these are my guys. I love New Zealand. That's true. That's all we got. Ben, all right, well, there it is another edition of the Fifth Hour. Thank you for being loyal, thank you for downloading, and really thank you for listening to this entire crap that we've done on this Fifth Hour with Ben Maller and David Gascon. And don't forget Benny versus the Penny. Got that as well. Download that. That's hard old football conversation at a very good week

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