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The Fascinating Podcast

A Norville Rogers Podcastwww.norvillerogers.com
Kathy Khang, Matt Mikalatos, Clay Morgan and JR. Forasteros bring you conversations with people you can't quit thinking about.
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Episodes

Retelling a Story

Some say we're living in the age of remakes, reboots and legacequels, but the truth is that we've been retelling stories since that first "Once Upon a Time..." In honor of the release of James , the new retelling of The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn , we explore why we enjoy retelling stories, what separates the good retellings from the soulless remakes and even... what happens when the Bible reinterprets itself!

Apr 15, 20241 hr 7 minSeason 12Ep. 379

Rethinking the Police

Why isn't police reform happening? Despite massive waves of sustained protest around the country, policing seems to be stuck. Dr. Daniel Reinhardt, an officer for 20 years, insists the problem is the internal culture of policing. How can we change that? Daniel joins us to explore what ordinary citizens can do to make real, systemic change.

Apr 08, 202456 minSeason 12Ep. 378

The 2024 Fascinating Pop Culture Madness Tournament

It's the annual Fascinating Pop Culture Madness tournament. From Prince Harry to the boat-killing Orcas to the best T-Swift Team up, our patented, professionally calibrated bracket leaves nothing to chance. Listen up and get ready to cast your vote in the final game. Who will reign supreme this year? It's up to you! The 2024 Fascinating Pop Culture Madness Bracket

Apr 01, 20241 hr 11 minSeason 12Ep. 377

The Masters of the Universe are Miserable ft. Naomi Kanakia

Why are the people with the most power so often the most miserable? Author Naomi Kanakia joins us to reflect on the way oppression hurts everyone - even those who oppress. We also explore the possible limits of found family and what's so great about the so-called Great Books. Naomi's newsletter, Woman of Letters The 2024 Fascinating Pop Culture Madness Bracket

Mar 25, 20241 hr 8 minSeason 12Ep. 376

Ben Winters Goes Big Time

Ben Winters returns to the show! He's the creator and executive producer of the hit new CBS show Tracker . He's got oodles of Audible original short novels! And his latest novel, Big Time just dropped! Will Ben reveal the secrets of his prolific career? Is it possible he is releasing something else this year? Just how long ago was the 90s, exactly? All this and more in his triumphant return!

Mar 18, 202451 minSeason 12Ep. 375

Praying with St. Patrick

This weekend is St. Patrick's Day - but beyond the green and the clovers, what is Patrick all about? Host Matt Mikalatos takes us into his new book, Praying with St. Patrick, to discover what wisdom Patrick has to offer for us today!

Mar 11, 202446 minSeason 12Ep. 374

Killers of the Flower Moon ft. Dr. Randy Woodley

Killers of the Flower Moon is getting a lot of attention in awards season - and a lot of praise for its depiction of Native Americans. But Dr. Randy Woodley, Indigenous screenwriter and activist, cautious us against rushing to heap praise upon Martin Scorsese's latest. We welcome Randy to share his experience in the film industry and how he has navigated the conversations around this film. Connect with Dr. Randy Woodly: Eloheh.org randywoodley.com Sho-kee.com...

Mar 04, 20241 hr 23 minSeason 12Ep. 373

Season 12 Premier

The gang is back! In a season premier tradition, we catch up on what we missed on break. Then Matt challenges JR. and Kathy with some slang new and old. And of course, a feral hog update.

Feb 26, 20241 hr 1 minSeason 12Ep. 372

Best of 2023

It's the last episode of the season - and the year! On our season finale, we count down our favorite books, movies and more. Plus, we share some of YOUR picks!

Dec 25, 20231 hr 10 minSeason 11Ep. 371

A Christian Defense of Surrogacy with Dr. Grace Kao

Surrogacy is an act of service for another, one that involves a whole body, and two families. What are the ethics of surrogacy? And why don't our laws reflect the modern science of surrogacy? How can surrogacy be unjust? Dr. Grace Kao joins us to explore the complexity of this act. PLUS: some of our least favorite Christmas traditions! Connect with Dr. Grace Kao Website | Instagram...

Dec 18, 20231 hr 12 minSeason 11Ep. 370

A Very Godzilla Christmas

The surprise hit of December is GODZILLA MINUS ONE, the latest Japanese Godzilla movie. Since we all saw it, we do a spoiler-free reflection on why it's so great - and why you should try to see it if you can! Plus, since Christmas is approaching, we explore some of our Christmas favorites.

Dec 11, 202355 minSeason 11Ep. 369

Jesus, Artemis and the Ephesians with Dr. Sandra Glahn

The author of 1 Timothy says he doesn't permits a woman to teach or have authority. He also says women are saved through childbirth. So does that mean women can't preach? Does it mean women can only be saved by having babies? Um... probably not. Dr. Sandra Glahn returns to the show to take us to the ancient city of Ephesus. What do we need to know about Artemis of the Ephesians to make sense out of these otherwise bizarre, contradictory instructions.

Dec 04, 202355 minSeason 11Ep. 368

The Marvels Review

The Marvels is the latest film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe and it's been a box office flop. So why do our three co-hosts like it so much? We review the film, including what worked for us and what didn't so much.

Nov 27, 202358 minSeason 11Ep. 367

The Future of Religion with M V Melcer

For decades, science fiction writers imagined a future where religion had gone extinct. But in M. V. Melcer's new sci-fi thriller REFRACTIONS, religion is alive and... if not exactly well, then thriving. She joins us to explore why religion isn't going anywhere - even as technology continues to advance. PLUS: time-travelling telescopes and more! M. V. Melcer's Website

Nov 13, 202353 minSeason 11Ep. 366

The FBI, Christianity Today and White Christian Nationalism with Dr. Lerone A. Martin

The F.B.I. played a key role in the development of White Christian Nationalism. Sound like a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory? Dr. Lerone A. Martin joins us to share the receipts. His new book THE GOSPEL OF J. EDGAR HOOVER shows how F.B.I. Director Hoover worked with evangelical leaders like Billy Graham a generation before the Moral Majority and the rise of the Religious Right. Hoover wrote essays for Christianity Today that Evangelical pastors and Sunday school teachers used for sermons and lesso...

Oct 30, 202343 minSeason 11Ep. 365

Fear Not! with Josh Larsen

Should Christians watch horror movies? What about movies about demonic possession? Film critic Josh Larsen returns to the show to take us into his new book FEAR NOT. We explore the role horror can play in creating spiritual conversations and even in spiritual formation! Episode Links: Larsen on Film (website) Josh on Letterbox Think Christian (website) Filmspotting (podcast)...

Oct 23, 202353 minSeason 11Ep. 364

PRESS YOUR LUCK with JR. Forasteros

Our own JR. is a contestant on Season 5 of Press Your Luck! He takes us behind the scenes from how he got on the show to the extensive casting process to the filming - and yeah, getting to meet the host, Elizabeth Banks.

Oct 18, 20231 hr

Loving Disagreement

It's time for another Fascinating-on-Fascinating interview! With the launch of their new book, Kathy and Matt share the hot seat to dish on what it looks like to disagree well. How did their book on civility turn into a meditation on the fruit of the Spirit? Why is civility too low a bar? Plus: a deep dive into kindness, because nice isn't a fruit of the Spirit!

Oct 16, 202355 minSeason 11Ep. 363

Kakistocracy ft. Alex Shvartsman

Alex Shvartsman returns to the podcast! The new book in the Conradverse features Conrad Brent, the magic Batman, facing off against his most challenging adversary yet: bureaucratic incompetence! We take the opportunity to reflect on why leadership so often fails to govern well, including a look at the historic removal of Kevin McCarthy as the Speaker of the House. PLUS: Which horror movie monster does your Ennagram number suggest you are?

Oct 09, 202353 minSeason 11Ep. 362

Facing America's Original Sins with Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg

Why hasn't America ever faced its original sins of chattel slavery or genocide against Native Americans? What's at stake if we were to face those sins? What might confession look like? What about repenting or repair? On the season premier of the Fascinating Podcast, Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg joins us to frame this conversation for us. How does she find hope in the face of our national reluctance? PLUS: an historic moment in the Fascinating Universe happened this summer, and we've got the full story...

Oct 02, 20231 hr 4 minSeason 11Ep. 361

The Gifted Clans Trilogy with Graci Kim

What happens when you tell a story that turns out to be an echo of some ancient wisdom? Graci Kim returns to the show for a special deep dive into the conclusion to her Korean-mythology-inspired fantasy trilogy. We explore how Korean mythology evolved, how she chose which versions of the various myths to recontextualize and how she discovered her legacy as a storyteller. Plus, we meditate on what it means to be Korean diaspora and how we reconnect with the loving mystery at the heart of the univ...

Jul 10, 20231 hr 6 min

Ecosystems of Jubilee

What would happen if churches dedicated ourselves to healing our communities? Jose Humphreys returns to the podcast to take us through his new co-authored book ECOSYSTEMS OF JUBILEE. We explore how Sabbath is good news for everyone - and why it means so much more than just going to church on Sundays.

Jun 26, 202356 min

Tasha Jun on Ethnicity and Belonging

What does it mean to belong? As a woman of two worlds, Tasha Jun was never quite sure where she fit. But again and again, she returned to the dream her mother had - Tasha as a fierce tiger. Tasha's book is an exploration of identity, ethnicity and belonging. She takes us into the ideas she explores and what it looks like to make a home between two worlds.

Jun 21, 202353 min

American Born Chinese ft. Wendy Wang and Gene Luen Yang

What does it take to fit into US culture? Gene Luen Yang first asked that question in 2006 with his groundbreaking graphic novel AMERICAN BORN CHINESE. Now it has become a show on Disney+. We welcome Gene back to the show, and he brings the show's composer Wendy Wang. We explore how their faith shapes their art, and the surprising ways it shows up in the show. It's a season finale you won't want to miss!

Jun 19, 202354 minSeason 11Ep. 360

Who Gets to Tell a Story?

Who gets to tell a story? Can a white person write black or Asian characters? Can a person of color play a traditionally white role? We dive into this perennial conversation. We're informed by R. F. Kuang's new bestseller YELLOWFACE, Halle Bailey's Little Mermaid and Miles Morales as Spider-man. PLUS: our non-spoiler thoughts on ACROSS THE SPIDER-VERSE!

Jun 12, 202357 minSeason 11Ep. 359

What Does it Mean to Say the Bible is Inspired?

What do we mean when we say the Bible is "inspired"? Zack Hunt, author of GODBREATHED, joins us to explore why we're so hung up on inspiration. We dive into issues like who wrote the books of the Bible, how much it matters, and who decided what made it in, or not. Oh and also Dan Brown because why not?

May 29, 20231 hrSeason 11Ep. 358

How Do We Fix Christian Missions?

Christian mission work has a long, dark history of colonialism and decimation of indigenous cultures. Despite some reforms, the problems haven't disappeared. Author and activist Mekdes Haddis joins us to offer a vision of a Just Mission. She shares how growing up in Ethiopia shaped her experience of mission, and some of her vision for how we can fulfill Jesus' great commission without sacrificing justice and holiness.

May 22, 202358 minSeason 11Ep. 357

Rethinking Immigration with Karen Gonzalez

The debate about immigration feels like it's at an impasse. What does it mean for our perspective to be just? Karen Gonzales challenges us to change the conversation by centering the very people who are already in the middle: immigrants. How does the our perspective on this issue change when we listen to the people we usually just talk about?

May 15, 20231 hr 6 minSeason 11Ep. 356

Andrea Stewart's Bone Shard War

Andrea Stewart returns to the show to celebrate the epic conclusion of The Drowned Empire trilogy and her newly-minted status as Best-selling author. We do a spoiler-free exploration of Andrea's writing process and what it takes to deliver on the big questions her series asks. PLUS: Matt gives us some details on the latest Writer's Strike.

May 08, 202348 minSeason 11Ep. 355

God's Gender Reveal Party

With Kathy in Paris and the internet abuzz with talk about God's gender, Matt and JR. welcome Rev. Tara Thomas Smith as a guest co-host. Tara takes us deep into what's at stake in this conversation, and we explore how best to refer to God in terms of gender. Trust us, this is an episode you don't want to miss!

May 01, 20231 hr 5 minSeason 11Ep. 354
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