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The Exit Five CMO Podcast (Hosted by Dave Gerhardt)

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Dave Gerhardt (Founder of Exit Five, former CMO) chats with top marketing leaders and CMOs. Join 5,000+ members in our private community at exitfive.com.
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#81: B2B Content Strategy with Devin Reed (Head of Content at Clari, Gong)

Devin Reed is Head of Content & Thought Leadership at Clari and previously Head of Content Strategy at Gong. Dave and Devin talk about: - His role at Clari and what the content team does - Inside Gong's early content strategy - How to make longform content work - What type of content works on LinkedIn today - Myth busting "build your personal brand" and more Thanks to our 2023 presenting sponsors Demandwell , Jasper , and Zapier . This episode is brought to you by Jasper . Jasper is the AI C...

Jun 20, 202358 minEp. 81

#80: Inside Exit Five - Why We Moved Off Facebook & Lessons from Building an Online Community

Dave takes you behind the scenes of Exit Five to talk about how the community got started, why we moved off of Facebook, why we went with Circle, lessons learned scaling Exit Five to 3,500+ paying members and more. This is a conversation with Jordan Godbey who runs Growth Community and helps experts, coaches and creators build communities on Circle and we thought this would make for a fun little "behind the scenes" episode since many listeners are involved in marketing and community building and...

Jun 15, 202341 minEp. 80

#79: AI and Marketing (with Austin Distel, Head of Marketing Innovation at Jasper)

Dave is joined by Austin Distel , Head of Marketing Innovation at Jasper and former CMO at Proof. Austin was one of the earliest Jasper employees and we discussed the evolution of the company, lessons from building Proof, how the product at Jasper got initial traction, use cases and examples for AI in marketing today, why every B2B marketing team should be taking AI seriously, how to get beyond generic AI results, and handling some of the objections as to why marketers don't use AI today. *** Th...

Jun 14, 20231 hr 1 minEp. 79

#78: The Role of Product Marketing (with Jeff Hardison, Head of Product Marketing at Calendly)

Dave is joined by Jeff Hardison , Head of Product Marketing at Calendly to discuss the role product marketing plays in a B2B organization. They cover how to structure a product marketing department, the differences between sales-led and product-led motions, tips on hiring product marketers, what product marketing looks like at Calendly, setting goals for product marketing, and more. *** Thanks to our 2023 presenting sponsors Demandwell , Jasper , and Zapier . This episode is brought to you by Ja...

Jun 06, 20231 hrEp. 78

#77: Marketing In A Down Economy - What Can You Do To Drive Growth? (with Margaret Kelsey, Jason Widup, Shauntle Barley)

Dave is joined by Margaret Kelsey (Founder of TatCo, Marketing Advisor), Jason Widup (VP Marketing, Metadata), and Shauntle Barley (Director of Marketing, Demandwell) to talk about the state of B2B marketing in Q2 2023 and helpful ideas for driving growth in a down economy. Layoffs, budget cuts, slower sales cycles, and a lack of urgency to buy your product right now. That's become normal in B2B SaaS over the last two quarters. But what does it mean for marketer? Do nothing? Just play defense? Y...

Jun 01, 202357 minEp. 77

#76: Pipeline Slowdown, First 90 Days as CMO, Brand vs Demand & more with Kyle Lacy (CMO, Jellyfish) and Shauntle Barley (Dir. Marketing, Demandwell)

Dave is joined by Kyle Lacy (CMO at Jellyfish) and Shauntle Barley (Director of Marketing at Demandwell) to chat about what business is like right now Q2 2023 for B2B SaaS, Kyle's new role as CMO at Jellyfish, what the CMO does in the first 90 days of a new job, talking through marketing budget and spending on brand vs demand, and more. Send guest pitches and ideas to hello@exitfive.com Exit Five on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/exitfive/ Exit Five on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ex...

May 30, 202348 minEp. 76

#75: Revenue Operations (RevOps) Deep Dive - Why B2B Marketing Leaders Need To Partner With RevOps To Win

This episode is an overview of the role of Revenue Operations as it relates to B2B sales & marketing today. You'll get an overall understanding of why the role of RevOps is key to scaling and growing revenue inside of an organization today with guest Lindsay Rothlisberger , Director of RevOps at Zapier. We cover the things B2B marketers and future marketing leaders should know about RevOps today, including: - The role of RevOps inside of a B2B SaaS company - How to measure success with a Rev...

May 22, 202357 minEp. 75

#74: Dave Kellogg - Traits of a High Performing CMO

Dave Kellogg is a former CEO and CMO with operational experience across companies from $0 to $1B+. He served as GM/SVP of Service Cloud for Salesforce, CEO of MarkLogic, and SVP of Marketing at SAP / Business Objects. Today he is principal at Dave Kellogg Consulting, EIR at Balderton Capital, and authors the popular SaaS blog Kellblog ( www.kellblog.com ). He has also served as an independent director across 10 startup boards and has a unique perspective into what top performing SaaS companies d...

May 16, 202352 minEp. 74

#73: Recorded Future CMO Tom Wentworth - Growing Past $250M ARR in Cybersecurity, Hiring Journalists, No Agencies, & Why You Need Middle Management To Scale

Tom Wentworth is CMO at Recorded Future , a $250m+ revenue high growth cyber security company. Prior to Recorded Future Tom was CMO at Rapid Miner and CMO at Acquia. We talk about: - Running marketing at 1,000 person company doing $250M ARR - The breakdown of Recorded Future's 45 person marketing team roles & responsibilities & goals - RF's marketing operating system, campaigns, themes, and running plays quarterly and annually - Managing up, working with the CEO, and why "if you don't ha...

May 08, 202352 minEp. 73

#72: Mental Health & Finding Meaning at Work - with Kara Hardin (CEO, The Practice Lab)

Kara Hardin is a mental health educator and clinician who works at the intersection of mental health and performance as CEO of The Practice Lab. She specializes in the complicated ways that mental health drives performance and how it shows up at work. She's a former practicing corporate and securities lawyer and holds a Master’s degree in Counseling Psychology from the University of St. Thomas (Minnesota) and a Juris Doctor from the University of Toronto, Faculty of Law. We talk about: - Going f...

May 02, 202359 minEp. 72

#71: B2B Content Strategy (with Lashay Lewis)

Lashay Lewis helps B2B SaaS companies create profit driven content strategies. We talk about why a B2B content strategy should be built from the bottom of the funnel up, why she interviews sales teams to understand "life before using the product" and why she interviews customer success teams to understand "life after using the product" and how that influences content strategy, how writing influences buyers, the power of a strong company POV, training in-house writers and freelancers in a way tha...

Apr 24, 202356 minEp. 71

#70: Allison Whalen - This CEO Crushes It On LinkedIn & Is Building Her Founder Brand To Grow Revenue

Allison Whalen is co-founder and CEO of Parentaly , a company combines career coaching and content to help expecting parents before, during and after their parental leave. She's a former MBA who worked in private equity and then as VP of Sales before starting Parentaly and taking to LinkedIn to launch the company and build her "Founder Brand." Dave and Allison talk about her LinkedIn strategy, starting a podcast, how someone with a background fully in sales (with no experience in marketing) came...

Apr 17, 202355 minEp. 70

#69: Reporting To The CEO - 5 Things Marketers Should Know

Dave shares five lessons from the wisdom of Exit Five community members about their lessons from reporting to the CEO for the first-time. Send guest pitches and ideas to hello@exitfive.com Exit Five on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/exitfive/ Exit Five on Twitter: https://twitter.com/exitfiveco *** This episode is brought to you by Demandwell . This episode is brought to you by Demandwell . Demandwell is the best SEO solution for B2B SaaS marketers. They’ve helped customers like Less...

Apr 14, 202320 minEp. 69

#68: Bobby Pinero - CEO of Equals & Intercom's Former Head of Finance & Analytics

Bobby Pinero is co-founder and CEO of Equals and previously led the finance organization at Intercom as the company scaled from $1M ARR to $150M+, and from 20 employees to 600+ employees. We talk about learning from Steve Blank at Stanford, building Equals, the mission of replacing Excel, lessons from Intercom, how he thinks about marketing as former head of finance, and more. Send guest pitches and ideas to hello@exitfive.com Exit Five on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/exitfive/ Exi...

Apr 13, 202354 minEp. 68

#67: Generative AI - with Samyutha Reddy & CJ Donio from Jasper

Generative AI is the hottest topic we've seen in marketing in a decade. In this session Exit Five Live session we went under the hood with Samyutha Reddy and CJ Donio from Jasper to unpack "Generative AI" and share use cases and tactical examples for B2B marketers today and how team's are using Jasper and AI to create content and generate ideas at scale. Send guest pitches and ideas to hello@exitfive.com Exit Five on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/exitfive/ Exit Five on Twitter: http...

Apr 07, 20231 hrEp. 67

#66: Managing Burnout & How To Get Unstuck in Your Career (with Hana Jacover)

Hana Jacover is an executive coach, former Director of Demand Generation, and founder of Hype House Coaching . We talk about managing burnout, fighting imposter syndrome, work/life balance, finding your right path, maintaining authenticity day to day, nonviolent communication, and how to get unstuck in your career. Send guest pitches and ideas to hello@exitfive.com Exit Five on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/exitfive/ Exit Five on Twitter: https://twitter.com/exitfiveco *** This epis...

Apr 06, 202354 minEp. 66

#65: Mistakes & Learnings as a Marketing Leader (Loretta Jones, VP Growth, Acceldata, Shauntle Barley, Director of Marketing, Demandwell, Anthony Kennada, CEO, AudiencePlus)

Four marketing leaders share their lessons, learnings, mistakes, and failures from their time "in the arena" as a marketing leader. Shauntle Barley is Director of Marketing at Demandwell, Loretta Jones is VP Growth at Acceldata, Anthony Kennada is former CMO at Gainsight, Hopin, and now CEO at AudiencePlus, plus Exit Five Founder Dave Gerhardt. Send guest pitches and ideas to hello@exitfive.com Exit Five on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/exitfive/ Exit Five on Twitter: https://twitte...

Mar 29, 202346 minEp. 65

#64: An interview with Dave on career path, joining a startup, side projects & more

This is a little change of pace episode, with Dave Charest from Constant Contact interviewing Dave Gerhardt about his career path and some early stories working together through PR, product marketing, side projects, and bunch of marketing stories / lessons sprinkled in. Send guest pitches and ideas to hello@exitfive.com Exit Five on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/exitfive/ Exit Five on Twitter: https://twitter.com/exitfiveco *** Thanks to our 2023 presenting sponsors Demandwell , Jas...

Mar 24, 202354 minEp. 64

#63: Brand Marketing with Stephanie Donily (Director, Corporate Marketing at Zapier)

Stephanie Donily is Director of Corporate Marketing at Zapier . Zapier has 100,000+ customers and does over $150M+ ARR and Steph joins the Exit Five podcast with Dave to talk about brand marketing, including: - What is brand marketing? - Why brand marketing is not logos/colors/design - Steph's job running corporate marketing and managing the teams that are responsible for brand, communications, content marketing, social media, events, and video - How Zapier is successfully using TikTok as a B2B ...

Mar 21, 202351 minEp. 63

#62: Chad Knipschild - Navy Veteran to Product Marketer

Chad Knipschild is a Navy Veteran and now Senior Product Marketing Manager at Recorded Future. Dave and Chad talk about his background and learnings from his time in the Navy to getting a job in tech and working in product marketing, plus a handful of topics outside of marketing for a little change of pace. Send guest pitches and ideas to hello@exitfive.com Exit Five on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/exitfive/ Exit Five on Twitter: https://twitter.com/exitfiveco *** Thanks to our 202...

Mar 14, 20231 hr 5 minEp. 62

#61: ABM with Hillary Carpio (Head of ABM at Snowflake)

Dave is joined by Hillary Carpio , Head of ABM at Snowflake for a deep dive on account-based marketing. Hillary runs a 20 person team focused on ABM at Snowflake today. They discuss why Snowflake has been an "account-based organization", ABM vs. Demand Generation, how to measure ABM, what an effective ABM campaign looks like, creating a tiered ABM strategy, how marketing exists to support sales at Snowflake and why it works, how tools like ChatGPT and Jasper can help ABM marketers, and more. You...

Mar 06, 202352 minEp. 61

#60: From Building an Audience to Launching a SaaS Company - Adam Schoenfeld (CEO at KeyPlay.io) & Camille Trent (Director of Content & Community at Peersignal.org)

Dave is joined by Adam Schoenfeld (CEO at Keyplay.io ) and Camille Trent (Director of Content & Community at Peersignal.org ). They talk about community building for B2B SaaS, what it means to "build a media company", and how creating the Peer Signal community eventually led to building a new SaaS company called Keyplay.io, the "return to rigor" and other observations from the current landscape in B2B sales & marketing and more. Prior to KeyPlay Adam was co-founder & CEO at Siftrock ...

Mar 01, 202353 minEp. 60

#59: Story is Strategy - The Power of Product Positioning

Dave is interviewed by Superside VP Marketing Amrita Mathur during a live session focused on positioning and company storytelling. When it comes to driving revenue we obsess over tactics when so often the root cause is actually positioning. When sales and marketing efforts are stuck or slowing down, it's rarely because you need to unlock a new channel, or because you are not using the latest martech tool. It is most often a positioning problem. But it is much easier to toss the blame on sales + ...

Feb 23, 202338 minEp. 59

#58: SEO - Exit Five Live - Ask Us Anything About SEO (Betsy Koliba, Mitch Briggs from Demandwell)

This episode is from an Exit Five live session we did with Dave Gerhardt , Betsy Koliba , and Mitch Briggs from Demandwell . Every few weeks we like to bring on subject matter experts to do Exit Five Live sessions about topics that are more tactical than the typical CMO interview. This was an hour long AMA on all things SEO, focused on what B2B marketers need to know about SEO in 2023, including some questions about how new trends like generative AI, ChatGPT, and short form video will impact SEO...

Feb 21, 202355 minEp. 58

#57: How to Create Memorable Content (with Obaid Durrani & Todd Clouser)

Dave is joined by Obaid Durrani and Todd Clouser for a discussion about content and community for B2B SaaS. Obaid and Todd met while working together at Refine Labs and co-host the "Cheat Codes" podcast for B2B SaaS marketers. They help marketing leaders and creators craft their narrative, implement new processes, and refine their content engine to reflect their product, narrative, and objectives. Send guest pitches and ideas to hello@exitfive.com Exit Five on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/...

Feb 13, 202355 minEp. 57

#56: Amrita Mathur (VP Marketing, Superside) - $0 to $30M ARR in three years, marketing team structure, when to exploit vs explore

Amrita Mathur is VP Marketing at Superside . Superside is a B2B SaaS company that provides a design subscription service for marketing and creative teams. We talk about how Superside went from $0 to $30M ARR in three years, marketing strategy, when to exploit vs. when to explore, marketing team structure, where to find efficiencies in marketing, how constraints can act as foundations for your entire go-to-market effort, the cost of missing out, making smarter marketing bets and more. Send guest ...

Feb 08, 202357 minEp. 56

#55: LinkedIn Followers / Vanity Metrics

Dave talks about building an audience on LinkedIn and whether or not LinkedIn followers are a "vanity metric" or not. Send guest pitches and ideas to hello@exitfive.com Exit Five on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/exitfive/ Exit Five on Twitter: https://twitter.com/exitfiveco *** Thanks to our 2023 presenting sponsors Demandwell , Jasper , and Zapier . This episode is brought to you by Jasper . Jasper is the AI Content Generator that helps you and your team break through creative bloc...

Feb 06, 202314 minEp. 55

#54: AI Content - with Meghan Anderson, VP Marketing at Jasper

Meghan Anderson is VP of Marketing at Jasper . Jasper is an AI Content Platform that helps creators break through writer's block, create original illustrations, and adapt content for different formats, languages and tone. Meghan leads a talented team of marketers overseeing all of acquisition, customer marketing, field and product marketing, community, brand and creative. Prior to Jasper, Meghan served as CMO at the Wanderlust group and was VP of Marketing at HubSpot for nearly a decade. In this...

Feb 01, 202355 minEp. 54

#53: Building the career resource for content marketers with Superpath creator Jimmy Daly

Dave is joined by Jimmy Daly (co-founder and CEO of Superpath ). Jimmy is the former VP of Growth at Animalz (content marketing agency) who went out on his own to start the ultimate resource for content marketers like him: one place that covers strategy, management, writing, career development and more. This episode will be interesting to B2B content marketers and anyone that's ever had the thought "hey, I could start my own business out of this." - Send guest pitches and ideas to hello@exitfive...

Jan 23, 20231 hrEp. 53

#52: How To Build A Brand with Bill Macaitis (former Slack CMO & Zendesk CMO)

This episode is from a fireside chat Dave did with Bill Macaitis , former CMO at Slack and Zendesk during G2's 2023 "Reach" event on how to build a brand in an economic downturn. We cover what is a brand, what is brand marketing, 8 ways to fit a brand into a marketing strategy, creating a brand centric product, and examples from Bill's work over the years. - Send guest pitches and ideas to hello@exitfive.com - Exit Five on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/exitfive/ - Exit Five on Twitt...

Jan 17, 202334 minEp. 52
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