Welcome to The Journey Austin Channing Brown! Enneagram 9, Austin Channing shares some of her wisdom and experience in this episode, including what we think is a CRAZY story about her time as an enneagram 9 employed at a church. Decision Making Passive Aggressive Anger Repressed Doing Foreboding Joy and Artificial Joy (brace yourselves 7s!) I'm Still Here and Full Of Myself Full Of Myself is available soon, so preorder today, and be sure to visit austinchanning.com ! Visit lifeinthetrinityminist...
Aug 13, 2025•1 hr 22 min•Ep. 192
Q&A Episode in the house! We start the show with a question from an Enneagram 7 married to an Enneagram 1 (that combo comes up a lot!). "Do I have to keep apologizing for the last 20 years every time I mess up?" Then we get to talk about: 9s with an 8 wing, or are they extroverted, or are they another number?! Gut Types How each individual number in each Triad deals with Anger, Fear, or Shame Essence v Personality 9s and Anger and more! Keep the questions coming! You can submit yours at thee...
Jul 08, 2025•1 hr 6 min•Ep. 191
Live shows in bookstores...we wish every episode could be recorded this way! Today's episode is almost like 3 episodes rolled into one. We get to meet Arlene Kasselman (enneagram 7), founder of 7&1 Books. Then we get to hear from Jen Rogers (enneagram 8) and learn from her experiences in life, and then chase all of that with some Q&A with the audience. Find 7&1 books and learn more about them by visiting sevenandonebooks.com “If you haven’t done enneagram work, it’s hard to see value...
Jun 20, 2025•1 hr 16 min•Ep. 190
Let's do some math. 2 + 2 - 7 = a great episode of The Enneagram Journey! Enneagram 2, Jen Hanson, joins fellow 2, Suzanne Stabile on today's show, but we lost our 7 Joel for this one. Don't like the episode too much, it'll hurt his feelings. Can you have an enneagram conversation between a couple of Twos without talking about boundaries? The strengths of being a Two and working with children and youth. Parenting with the struggles of social media. Should one of Suzanne's spiritual practices be ...
May 26, 2025•1 hr 8 min•Ep. 189
Russ Hudson is back on the show, and is going to blow your mind! The show starts with a little catching up, so we get to hear about some of Russ' travels, and we look forward to IEA Experience 2025 that features both Russ and Suzanne! How has the Enneagram, or our understanding of the enneagram, evolved over the years? Russ shares their 3 rules he and Don had when writing The Wisdom of The Enneagram We're not just talking about the 3 Centers of Intelligence today, but also the 3 Body Centers Hol...
May 15, 2025•1 hr 18 min•Ep. 188
Meet Tori Hastings, enneagram 5! As promised, we are definitely not going to talk about golf, and we are going to talk about somatic therapy, what we do when we get home from our day, what Tori's life looked like over the past 30 years in Alabama, and did Suzanne make a revision to the Centers of Intelligence? "You don't achieve balance by pushing the top (center of intelligence) down. You achieve balance by pulling the bottom up." - SS "I don't do much of anything in real time..." - TH PLUG TIM...
May 08, 2025•1 hr 8 min•Ep. 187
Get your pen and paper ready, because this episode is FULL of incredible enneagram teaching from not one BUT TWO! enneagram teachers (and neither are Joel). Katie Whitlock (3), yes, the daughter of The Enneagram Journey's own Sara Whitlock (2), joins Suzanne in this episode. Seriously, so much good wisdom in this one Escaping to the future What do you do when you're restless? Balance Doing Enneagram work, but identifying as the wrong number Do you respond to strangers online? Some input from Joe...
May 01, 2025•1 hr 16 min•Ep. 186
Alex and Darnell are back to share their final thoughts and feelings about their experience in the 2024 Enneagram Cohort with Suzanne! If this series of conversations with Darnell and Alex has raised your interest in the LTM Cohort program, we hope you will check it out and apply. Applications for the following year's Cohort program are accepted April 1 - September 1. You can get the dates, descriptions, expectations, and application at lifeinthetrinityministry.com/cohortprogram Other Plugs 2025...
Apr 22, 2025•1 hr 19 min•Ep. 185
You've asked for more Enneagram Twos on the show, and here is a great start! Meet Sara Whitlock. Sara is a nurse practitioner from Ohio. Married to JD, an Enneagram 5, she and one of her daughters were both a part of the 2024 Enneagram Cohort with Suzanne (we'll get to hear from her daughter Katie in an upcoming episode!). PLUG TIME Great events coming up: TheoEd Talks Nashville - February 23 in Nashville at Woolworth Theatre or Online The Enneagram Journey Live - February 25 in Nashville at Bea...
Feb 18, 2025•1 hr 2 min•Ep. 184
Happy 2025 to everyone on their Enneagram Journey! And even to those who haven't started yet. The first episode of the year is fantastic and features pastor, spiritual director, and author Laura Murray, Enneagram 4. Laura is married to an Enneagram 5 The difference between Home and where you belong Some surprising Enneagram Wing discussion with Suzanne Spiritual Practices Parenting and more Below you will find the practice of Examen that Laura shared with us. You can also find a link for it in P...
Jan 21, 2025•1 hr 29 min•Ep. 183
Your Enneagram Godmother and an Enneagram Guncle got together for this INCREDIBLE conversation! If you don't know Jonathan yet, Enneagram 3, this is a wonderful introduction. "...othering the other that othered them." It'll make more sense after you hear him talk about it! Jonathan is a writer on faith and culture, the author of Learning To Speak God From Scratch, Jesus is Better Than You Imagined, My Guncle and Me and a few other great reads. You can find him on Instagram @jonathan_merritt and ...
Nov 01, 2024•1 hr 10 min•Ep. 182
The Enneagram Godmother + The Great Russ Hudson + The Reverend Where do we sign up?!?! Today's podcast episode comes from the LTM teaching event in Dallas, Br5aking The Cycle (don't worry, you'll learn why it is spelled that way and what 5a means). As you'll hear Joel explain, this 2 hour teaching is only the opening for the rest of the next 10 hours, but it is an entire workshop in itself! There is nobody Suzanne holds in higher regard when it comes to Enneagram Wisdom than Russ Hudson. The rea...
Oct 09, 2024•2 hr 25 min•Ep. 181
Its Q&A time on The Enneagram Journey! Suzanne and Joel sat down to record today's episode at The Micah Center and decided at the last moment to turn on the camera. Having the camera on contributed to the conversation about seeing a therapist and accountability, and the show just takes off from there. Some of the things you'll here in this episode: A question about a 7 and 5 relationship this leads to some subtype talk What needs to fall away when you go to therapy? Enneagram 6s and Trust Ar...
Oct 02, 2024•1 hr 19 min•Ep. 180
The second half of 2024 is well underway and so is the second half of the 2024 Cohort Program. Welcome back Alex Reegan (enneagram 8) and Darnell Young (enneagram 1)! Our third guest, Matt Lesser (8), couldn't join us for this conversation, but he'll be back at the end of the year for sure! Today's episode is fantastic: Is "triggered" still a term we should be using? Who decides? Would you rather be Right or in Relationship? Armor and Privilege Tattoo Talk When are you vulnerable? Orientation to...
Aug 22, 2024•1 hr 31 min•Ep. 179
Meet The Justice Doula, Micky ScottBey Jones! Originally mistyped as an 8, which makes a ton of sense, she found her inner critic and her "inner BFF" as an Enneagram 1, and no accompanies others as they birth precious things into the world like love, empathy, self-compassion, liberation, healing and resilience. You can find out more about Micky at mickyscottbeyjones.com PLUG TIME 2024 Enneagram Bootcamp Stress, Loss, & Relationships August 1-3 in Dallas, TX or join Online This is LTM's bigge...
Jul 16, 2024•1 hr 18 min•Ep. 178
We've officially named Luke the first member of The Enneagram Journey 5 Timer Club! It's a big deal. Not as big a deal though as his latest book, How To Love The Life You Already Have. If you're looking for the Richard Rohr books Suzanne suggests to read in order (he has many more great ones!) here they are: Everything Belongs, The Naked Now, Falling Upward, Immortal Diamond. Luke (Enneagram 7), Suzanne, and Joel got a little distracted by some great conversation, so Suzanne and Luke are going t...
Jun 26, 2024•1 hr•Ep. 177
Enneagram 8, Tony Jones, steps out of the woods and into The Micah Center to sit down with Suzanne and her husband, Rev. Joseph Stabile, to talk about his latest book, The God of Wild Places . “One of the things I like about the wilderness is that it is not controllable. We’ve paved too many wild places.” If you haven't read The God of Wild Places yet, no worries! Give this episode a listen and it will get you prepped for it. PLUG TIME! June 2024 is full of great sales at LTM. All shirts are onl...
Jun 12, 2024•1 hr 4 min•Ep. 176
"You can’t treat what you haven’t diagnosed and you can’t diagnose what you haven’t assessed." - Chanel Dokun "You can't fix what you can't name." - Suzanne Stabile Yeah, the two of them could talk for way longer than an hour! But, for today, let's meet Enneagram One, Chanel Dokun. She is a mother of two, life coach, speaker, and author of Life Starts Now . To find out more about Chanel and what she is doing in the world, visit chaneldokun.com . SUPER PROMOS today Alabama, The Enneagram and Spir...
May 23, 2024•1 hr 2 min•Ep. 175
The highly anticipated second part of our conversation with Alison McCrary (enneagram 3) is here! The Reverend (Joseph Stabile) takes host duties in today's episode as he and Alison talk about their callings and their journey. Alison started Methodist and now is Catholic. Joe started Catholic and now is Methodist. Wow, the journey they've been on! Would the Reverend make a good butcher? Alison and the Black Panthers teaming up? Could Suzanne and Joe keep up with Alison for a day? Today's episode...
May 10, 2024•47 min•Ep. 174
"A contemplative practice is any act, habitually entered into with your whole heart, as a way of awakening, deepening, and sustaining a contemplative experience of the inherent holiness of the present moment." -James Finley What an honor it is to have Alison McCrary join us on The Enneagram Journey! Who knows the people you might get to talk to when you're just sitting on the couch watching an episode of Queer Eye?! Alison, an enneagram 3, is a New Orleans based political, cultural, and spiritua...
Apr 16, 2024•1 hr 6 min•Ep. 173
Meet Enneagram Eight, Matt Lesser, the third third of the first third of our series with three members of the 2024 Enneagram Cohort! The man has done some work, and he shares his journey with us beginning with a life threatening illness when he was 15, depression in his twenties, and his dark night of the soul. He left the corporate world in 2021 and started his own business, beginning with two books, Unsatisfied: When Less Is More and Unengaged: Building Flourishing Organizations. Learn more ab...
Mar 27, 2024•1 hr 2 min•Ep. 172
Welcome to Part 2 of what we envision to be a 9 part series throughout 2024 following 3 members of The LTM Enneagram Cohort features, enneagram 8, Alex Reegan! Alex Reegan is the author of What Needs To Be Said , as well as an interfaith minister, speaker, and transformative spiritual coach who uses his intuitive wisdom to help guide people towards their own inner knowing. Born into an evangelical Christian family that prevented his true identity as a trans man from emerging, he spent years in d...
Mar 07, 2024•1 hr 9 min•Season 4Ep. 171
This is the first episode of an anticipated 10 Episode series over the next year, that we're really excited for! You have most likely heard about the LTM Cohort program on the podcast, and what better way to talk about it then to follow along with 3 Cohort members? On today's show, meet Enneagram One Darnell Young. She has always been interested in the behavior of others and the motivation behind people's behavior. In being introduced to the Enneagram, Darnell felt the tool put a name, or number...
Feb 06, 2024•1 hr 23 min•Season 5Ep. 170
Meet some of the members of LTM's first online Enneagram Journey Curriculum group! Suzanne and Joel talk with Chelsea (8), Jennifer (4), Maria (2), Marty (2), Hillary (2), Matt (6), and Ronna (8) in today's episode about how they found each other and what the Journey has been like so far. Then the conversation evolved into a discussion about where we find our shadow side and false self in enneagram work, the greatness of the Barbie movie, spiral dynamics, and the importance of intergenerational ...
Jan 29, 2024•1 hr 36 min•Season 5Ep. 169
"Marriage has taught me that two people can experience reality in two very different ways." - Josh Graves Welcome Josh Graves, preaching and teaching minister at Otter Creek Church in Nashville, TN and author of The Simple Secret: Choosing Love in a Culture of Hostility, and an Enneagram 3. A little subtype talk, a little family systems talk, relationships (of course), and do you know if you're playing the game? This is a GOOOOOOD, good book! You can get your copy here on Amazon . PLUG TIME Clea...
Jan 19, 2024•1 hr•Season 5Ep. 168
If you're a fan of The Enneagram Journey then there is a good chance you're a fan of books. Today's episode is filled with good book talk because Suzanne's dear friend Jeff Crosby is on the show. Jeff, Enneagram Nine and author of The Language of The Soul, shares his experience as a 9, what forgiveness means to him, and much more. Find out more about Jeff at jeffreycrosby.net and click here to get your copy of The Language of The Soul . The Enneagram Journey podcast is produced by Life in the Tr...
Dec 29, 2023•1 hr 22 min•Season 4Ep. 167
It's been a busy season, but The Enneagram Journey is back with a fantastic episode of Q&A with Suzanne, and a special appearance from Dr. Andy Stoker. CLICK HERE to ask a question for a future Q&A episode! "Enneagram 7s Reframe, Enneagram 3s Restructure" The Seventh Law of Emotional Triangles What is nikhedonia? PLUG TIME! The 4 Mantras and The Holidays is Saturday, December 9th Show Up Pay Attention Tell the Truth Don't Attach to the Results Now do all of that and have a fun, bright, a...
Dec 04, 2023•1 hr 8 min
You may know that Suzanne was introduced to the world of podcasting through friend of the show, Luke Norsworthy. Now Luke has introduced Suzanne to Jason Miller, Enneagram 5, pastor at South Bend City Church and author of When The World Breaks . We'll get a peek at their relationship and Jason's affection for all Sevens! What is it like to be an enneagram Five and a church planter? Are you a non-anxious individual? And, lets reexamine our feelings about the word promiscuous. “In our dualistic cu...
Oct 24, 2023•1 hr 7 min
Enneagram Ones, have you named your Inner Critic? In this episode, Brian Lee shares his relationship with his Critic, as well as his journey from Broken to Beloved. Suzanne and Brian talk about Ennneagram One's relationship with Perfection and it what that my mean, and a great discussion about the line that Ones and Sevens share. This episode also includes a special appearance from Enneagram 8, Joey Schewee! PLUG TIME The Road Back to You has sold over 1 Million copies! If you or someone you kno...
Oct 04, 2023•1 hr 3 min
Channeling our inner Jeff Foxworthy... If you've ever thought to yourself, "How can I make sure people already know that I know the Enneagram and that I'm not new to it like they are?", you might be an Enneagram 3! Welcome Mallory Wyckoff to The Enneagram Journey! Mallory Wyckoff (DMin, MTS) is a writer, speaker, spiritual director, and peacemaker. She also serves as key relationships officer with Search for Common Ground, the world’s largest organization dedicated to peacebuilding. Having compl...
Sep 19, 2023•1 hr 18 min
